WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Michael Clifford 

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<v Speaker 1>This is Small Surgery tonight's guest. His brand new album

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<v Speaker 1>is called side Quest. He is a band member number

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<v Speaker 1>four of five Seconds of Summer to Go Solo. I

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<v Speaker 1>snuck in a cheeky trip to La to go hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with Mikey at his house to chat about his

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<v Speaker 1>brand new album. Let's roll the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening a small heath on Noah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look who you catch up with when you're hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out in La in person? In person? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, it's been three years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been three I had to correct him, three years.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I was just saying I'm tired. Your baby

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<v Speaker 2>woke me up early today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so baby, now.

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<v Speaker 2>She is almost took on the like about half of

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<v Speaker 2>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Like I don't have kids, but I I have

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<v Speaker 1>a niece and a nephew. The two year old. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost grown out of the puppy stage, if you could

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<v Speaker 1>relate to it. It's almost at that stage. Yeah, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like almost, it's like, okay, they're not chewing on things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's it's more like physical, like the chase is on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you close your eyes and she's running full speed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye well dad, life looks good on you. You don't look

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<v Speaker 1>like you've aged at all. By the way you look.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still useful.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks luck. I need that today. I'm not feeling that.

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<v Speaker 1>How is everything is good with you? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to point out the nail art. This is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Your nail art is fantastic. How long do you spend

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<v Speaker 1>in in make hair and makeup for the nails?

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<v Speaker 2>For the nails? The nails do take them minute, But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm super antsy. I'm like, I because you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to put them in this in this little thing

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<v Speaker 2>to like seal them obviously every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I sorry, I sure, like I know, yeah, you're like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I know. Yeah. But the more intricate it is, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the longer it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>But didn't you have something hanging off them the other

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a photo with you. You had like like

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ornament, Yeah, hanging off one of the other I've had

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty significant ornaments. I've got some. I've got some

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<v Speaker 2>little ones this time. Nothing too crazy. Oh yeah, Jim, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got my little gems on it. But it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a fun thing. That I've been doing on this this

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<v Speaker 2>that I've like, I've never been into nail art or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. And then just on this, on this album,

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been like, you know, easter egging through nails,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, just having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the fans pick up on it?

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<v Speaker 2>They did? Yeah, they've they guessed all the songs Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make you think to yourself like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought it was gonna be harder? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like it's like when you're gonna if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna commit to the Easter Egg totally, You've either got

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<v Speaker 1>to go really well, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna commit to the Easter Egg. You've got one

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<v Speaker 1>or two options. You either make it so easy because

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<v Speaker 1>you want people to see that there's Easter eggs, or

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<v Speaker 1>like super super hard. But then you go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what if no one cares about Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you just feel like because you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody found the thing that crazy. This one, the one

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<v Speaker 2>that just happened to me, was like a pre save

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<v Speaker 2>link where you like, right in, you know, the link

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<v Speaker 2>is cold, you know whatever, and then usually the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the song, yeah, the other the next song I

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<v Speaker 2>had coming out with Porter. They just changed the name

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the other presave link to kill

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<v Speaker 2>me for always the song, and they like it got

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of pre saves because people just figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that was pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good. And there wasn't there something on your

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<v Speaker 1>website that I saw? I swear I saw this on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter that some page got put up, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that was an Easter egg which one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. I only saw a briefly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this, and I wasn't sure that was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Proably some Mester eggs on there. There was like I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like slowly erasing the word tour on my

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<v Speaker 2>website as it was like as I was coming to

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<v Speaker 2>like play shows and stuff. That was it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was fun. And it says tour because

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<v Speaker 2>I was meant to do a tour, but now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just doing a show. You are now it says. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about, like, it looks really bad if

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<v Speaker 2>I change it. Like at the very end, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now it says show or live or something. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I just want to leave it tour because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, maybe one day the album is out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's out.

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<v Speaker 1>How as I said, I think I said to cow

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<v Speaker 1>when his album came out the other week.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listened to that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've collected all the boys have now

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<v Speaker 1>collected their Infinity Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not offended that we're not playing the Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the game is? Yes, no game? Yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>offended that we're not playing it, but like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like.

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<v Speaker 1>You did let down.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't think of me. Yeah, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, you know I'm a yes, no game kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of You are given some of the best answers. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best memes. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I really really tried to really give that a good flick.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me, tell me about the tell me the record

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<v Speaker 1>is out. How does it feel that the world is

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<v Speaker 1>got has has got it?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels really good. I'm happy to have it out

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<v Speaker 2>and off my chest and now it's not mine anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>it's somebody else's.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long was it were you working on it

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<v Speaker 1>up until the very end or was it like locked

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<v Speaker 1>and loaded for ages and you just were like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just pick a date.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like like we were already like announcing

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<v Speaker 2>as I was still like delivering okay songs. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was I'm you know, like, uh, I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 2>the right word. And it's not like I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that I was gonna say, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to sound like a crackhead. Yeah you know, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Yeah, So I was like

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<v Speaker 2>I was constantly changing things towards the very end, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was tough to get it delivered by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I just really I just realized how casually I dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the word crackhead in the middle of that, and yeh,

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<v Speaker 2>can we a.

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<v Speaker 1>Cracking I can say, is this rating radio? You're good

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<v Speaker 1>Australian radio. It's fine to say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like five times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I knew exactly what you were thinking, because

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<v Speaker 1>you I was thinking tweaking too. Yeah. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>but also, but we don't say tweaking is not part

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<v Speaker 1>of like the verbiage in Australia. It's yeah, that's more

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<v Speaker 1>American thing, like I think that's more like like lots

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<v Speaker 1>of tweakers.

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<v Speaker 2>On the street. Totally, yeah, totally, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't say that in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you'd say another word that's probably really offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, album, album's going great. Yeah, I'm happy everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. And you know, I'm playing a show in

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<v Speaker 2>LA next week, which will be really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that going to go for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Terribly?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, best of luck if you have tickets. No, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you nervous? Are you anxious? Is this the first

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<v Speaker 1>time you've been on stage on your own?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, there's there's a like a small intimate sort

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<v Speaker 2>of acoustic gig, but that doesn't really count.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas this colt through his he did a red room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it and I was coming out in between

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<v Speaker 1>songs because like, and I don't mean this, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this to be true, but I feel it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're in a group and you're on stage,

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<v Speaker 1>like each of you had like one moment maybe between

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<v Speaker 1>a song.

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<v Speaker 2>Just say hold on, we write down exactly who talks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, but when you're on your own, it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time, you know, you'll yap in every song. So

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<v Speaker 1>I came and yap with him in between it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's helpful. It's so helpful to have someone to yap

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I'm pretty horrified about yeah, yap and solo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean hopefully it's fine. I just I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's It's interesting how when you when you create music,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you instantly think of it live and you

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<v Speaker 2>think about what you know that feeling is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like in the room and how everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 2>react to it and sing the words and stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that everyone loves it and that everyone sings

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<v Speaker 2>along and yeah, but it's still equally as terrifying as Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to get home to Australia. We would

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<v Speaker 1>love to have.

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<v Speaker 2>You, I hope. So I've been trying going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do a long haul flight. Could you fly? Sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt you. Would you come to Australia without child?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Or would you?

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<v Speaker 2>Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if I'm going to go home, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>bring the child home and two is still too young

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<v Speaker 1>that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if I if I go to Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>I really am dying for her to come with me

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<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, just go to where she's from

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<v Speaker 2>and see her grandparents in Australia. I mean they've come

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<v Speaker 2>over here and seen her, but like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's different, you know, bringing a bringing bringing my baby

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<v Speaker 2>back where she's from is something that I'm I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to, but I don't know if I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>for that flight. It's a big commitment, and the flight

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<v Speaker 2>to la is shit, it is. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think, and I speak on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who would be sharing the cabin on the

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<v Speaker 1>plane with you. I appreciate that you haven't done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because there will be a point where she can watch,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, twelve hours of TV straight, but out at

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<v Speaker 2>that point.

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<v Speaker 1>What is she watching?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she we try not to do TV, which is like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a really tough decision that we've made.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you Are you one of these iPad parents?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's the issue. I wish we were. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to throw an iPad in front of her and

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<v Speaker 2>just watch something. Let me do that, But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to be good to her brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good on you, so don't do it, just just

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<v Speaker 1>give her the iPad. But anyway, Hey, I congratulations on that,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, stronger people have failed in that quest

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<v Speaker 1>to keep their kid off so hard yeah, yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you did give her a la boo boo the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well she didn't. Is that here?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry? Where is that laboo boo?

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<v Speaker 2>The laos aren't here right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for people who don't know, the laboo boo craze

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<v Speaker 1>is taken off. It's unlike you to not jump onto

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<v Speaker 1>a craze and I appreciate it to you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have a very similar with that. You got your daughter

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<v Speaker 1>a la booo thinking she'd be excited and she could

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<v Speaker 1>over ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh done. She was like, you know, why would I

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<v Speaker 2>want this? And now she looks at them and she's

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of scared at them. Now she got no

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<v Speaker 2>little boo boo, no lat.

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<v Speaker 1>Boo boo, like but yeah, you gave it to the

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<v Speaker 1>dog in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. They kind of cheered it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and even they weren't into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're close. I feel like every time

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<v Speaker 1>a new train starts, the window between everyone wants it

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<v Speaker 1>to it's now.

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<v Speaker 2>Land getting smaller as well. Every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time, it's like we're I think we're only a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days away from like la boo boos being

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<v Speaker 1>out totally done.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yeah, Crystal got me those from the local mall

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even know about it and then I

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up and.

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<v Speaker 1>They're available here in the local mall. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>people line up in Australia like thirty forty fifty people

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<v Speaker 1>deep for the drops? Yeah, you know, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what was the last thing that used to

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<v Speaker 1>have a drop? You know, clothes have come out with

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<v Speaker 1>drops La Boogoo drops in Australia, like.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'd line up for, like the tend to switch, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like that like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you remember who used to line up for the

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<v Speaker 1>new iPhone back in the day at midnight for the midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Now everyone's like dratting the new update because they know

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<v Speaker 2>their phone's gonna like slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, what else I have to talk to you about?

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<v Speaker 1>What else do I need to know? Okay, the album

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<v Speaker 1>is out. You're la Boo boo Cris.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's cool, I would like to talk about Callum

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute, Okay. I just I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 2>loving Callum okay and his music. Yeah, I just and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw, you know, he's been crushing it in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been working very hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm just I'm proud of you got the

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<v Speaker 2>number one record. I know, I'm just I'm so proud

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<v Speaker 2>of him, and I love all the music that he released,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, especially like us as a band, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>proud of all of us being able to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like there's like a stigma around the

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<v Speaker 2>world like solo projects or like doing doing stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>our own, which is like I guess, I guess understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like the history behind bands and solo projects

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff is not you know, the track record's not great,

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<v Speaker 2>But I do like to think that a band like

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<v Speaker 2>us is sort of like, you know, we're showing people

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<v Speaker 2>that you can do both. You know, there's no like

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<v Speaker 2>for us, There's there's no reason that we can't like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, respect the band's history and the band's longevity

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<v Speaker 2>and also like you know, just like fuck around and

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<v Speaker 2>make some some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to do you when you on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the solo thing, did each of you have a discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously you will would have talked about we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>each of you want to do you a solo thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there did you make an agreement that we would

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<v Speaker 1>stay out of the five Sauce lane, or did is

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<v Speaker 1>the five Sauce Lane the five Sauce lane, because each

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<v Speaker 1>four of you as individuals bring a different type of

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<v Speaker 1>taste music.

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<v Speaker 2>To I don't know if I mean for me personally.

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<v Speaker 2>When I listen to all of our music individually, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear the band. I hear like all four of these

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<v Speaker 2>different influences and how we all, you know, come together

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<v Speaker 2>to create the thing that like song by song, it

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<v Speaker 2>differs in the in the band's discography, you know where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I can hear that, and you know, now

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<v Speaker 2>going into working, you know, we've been working making some

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<v Speaker 2>new music. Like it's so easy for us to like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe easy is the wrong word, but like we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>able to sort of like identify the influence of each

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<v Speaker 2>member and each creative and being like, Okay, I I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hear that you're pushing this idea and I

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<v Speaker 2>know from the music that you've made that you know

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<v Speaker 2>how to do that thing or whatever. You know, so

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<v Speaker 2>let's bring a bit of that into this. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, that's that's how I feel. Is like it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like bringing it's like bringing all the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>together to to create it, because you know, there's also

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<v Speaker 2>like this respect for the band that we all have

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<v Speaker 2>where like this, you know, when we're making decisions for

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<v Speaker 2>the band and we're and we're pushing you know, ideas

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<v Speaker 2>and releasing music for the band, it really needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be like cared for, like super heavily. Where Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got such a history and like a deep meaning

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people, you know, like including including

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<v Speaker 2>us obviously, so like we always want to do it respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas when it comes to the solo projects, like we

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<v Speaker 2>can just we can just do stuff for fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I name this shit siequesst like, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just out here having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and absolutely on that. Now that each of you

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<v Speaker 1>have done the solo thing, I think the internet is

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<v Speaker 1>stirring with rumors. Is with his five sauce with a

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<v Speaker 1>five sauce comeback.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Callum was sus about this answer too. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>could happen, Okay, I could happen. Okay, maybe sooner than

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<v Speaker 2>you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh that's exciting, that's a bit of that's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of juice. I love that old squeeze hard in

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<v Speaker 1>the private time when it's off the air. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>For having me over. Congratulations on the record.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you man.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't look tie it even though that's good. That's great,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, keep it up asking doing something. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on the record and we'll see you soon in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're listening to the Smallsy Surgery podcast.

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