WEBVTT - Off The Record#6: BREAKING - NRL to make changes to the Bunker, Joey Johns’ epic rant & Buzz’s wild night at GI’s wedding 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 Hi everyone, and welcome to Off the Record, the sports 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.320 podcast of breaking news, heart, opinion and a little bit 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.239 of gibber. I'm Andrew Webster from The Australian and I'm 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.160 joined by my partner in journalistic crime, Phil Rosfield from 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.080 The Daily and Sunday Telegraphs and Code Sport. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.440 Okay, buzz, Hello Wabby. I'm not in a terrific mood. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.800 Why not because you know why which the listeners. We're 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.480 in a little cafe next door twenty minutes ago Latterrea. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:29.680 It's my favorite little haunt. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:35.159 And I was mistaken as your father. This lovely lady said, oh, Andrew, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.000 you've got dad here today. Not happy. I do not 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.440 look anything like you or old enough to be your father. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.040 Now, the thing is, it's not the first time this 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:51.040 has happened, because yourself and I am Todd Greenberg, were 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:52.839 at the theater in London, as you do. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:54.920 We were watching simply the Best. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.880 So that Tina that Tina the West End, Western East, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:09.440 Wrong Side of the Tracks, and we after, we after 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.560 after the show, which was fantastic, by the way, we 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.560 were at the front and we wanted a photo and 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.480 Todd handed his phone to to one of a woman. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.959 She was a delightful lady, and she took the phone. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.760 She said, it's so lovely to see two sons taking 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:34.280 their father to the theater. And Buzz was mortified. Good star, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.720 Yes you do. Coming up on the show today, we've 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.720 got some breaking news on the Bunker. We're going to 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.800 rip into the Western Bears and their decision to target 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.039 Brad Arthur's coach, and Buzz is going to lift the 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.000 lid on the day Greg Gliss's wife flipped him the 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:55.280 bird very exactly exactly right. Let's get into it. Champs 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.000 and chumps. Buzz, who's your champ of the week. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.640 My champion is Andrew Joey John's eighth for Mortal. I 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:08.000 thought his takedown of the NRL over this outrageous high 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:16.320 tackle crackdown was absolutely outstanding television. And I don't normally 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.640 give Channel nine a rap, but his appearance on the 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:24.480 Sunday forty Show was just magnificent. He spoke for the people, 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.480 He spoke for just about everyone across the game that 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.760 enough is enough. It was embarrassing. It was a face 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:38.959 all those words. I didn't know Joey could could get 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.120 those work. It was brilliant. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:42.240 It's from the heart. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.360 Oh isn't an incredible minutes from the heart. It was 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:47.639 how well he delivered. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.880 And look, you know I was. I broke the story 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.960 later that day on the Australian website about him putting 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.280 the microphone down the last twenty six minutes of twenty 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.359 three minutes of the the Tigers Cronella game because he's 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:07.680 just disgusted with that that lad Sindbin And look, people, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.240 Joey's got his critics. I know, people sort of are 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.360 critical of him because he wears his heart on his 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.720 sleeve during Origin weeks ago here and well you do 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.400 lock to bag people. I'm kidding both. But the thing 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.520 that I love about it is, and I've known Joey 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.760 since the nineties and he's just so authentic and everything 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.920 he does, and he is a genuine lover of the game. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.120 He's a genuine lover of the Knights, New South Wales 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.440 origin and Australia and international football. And I think people 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.840 misread him sometimes. He just he's unfiltered and he is 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.600 who he is. He's a tremendous guy, Joey, and he 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.520 loves the game. He genuinely loves the game. And what 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.200 you saw there on the Sunday Footy Show. What he 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.800 saw at that game between Cronulla and the Tigers is 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.760 Andrew John's and his love of the game. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.000 Sure, I thought it was particularly brave as well, because 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.760 I can say there are nervous television executives chat on 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.680 Dunlan and Design or Foxtel or whatever we're supposed to 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.840 call it these days, who were about to go into 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:17.000 crucial negotiations with the NRL for the next television deal, 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.960 and there's a feeling that we should hashtag NRL talk 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.359 the game up to favor their chances where we of 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:32.880 retaining the rights. I don't know if there's been instructions 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.360 these camps to, you know, to turn it down and 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.880 speak the game up. But Joey certainly didn't get the email. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.200 No, that's right, and he just calls it as it is. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.440 So calls it as he is as well. Okay, my champ, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.720 thanks for asking. The North Sydney Bears are out of hibernation. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:57.000 So I've been critical of a Western Australia franchise. And 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.680 then I had a long chat a few days ago 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.480 Buzzed and my great mate James Bracy again, no, no, no, no, no, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.839 you have no, I haven't let me finish. Let me finish. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.960 I'm not still not being on a Perth team, but 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.840 I am very very happy that the Bears are back. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.920 The other person I've been thinking about this week is 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.760 the late great Mike Gibson. It was a massive North 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.000 Sydney fan and was very much you know, it's an 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.200 extension of his personality. They were shafted out of the 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.440 big league. I do have a actually this morning I 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.480 saw a guy running around in a Bears jumper shaft. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.960 They were broke, yeah, but they got shafted in the 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.040 Northern Eagles partnership. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.560 Yeah they did. They broke they had when they went 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.679 to the table to negotiate a merger. They had no chips. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.719 They you know, Oh no, but that's how they fell apart, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:50.520 that's how they. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.800 I feel good that you got my coaching two weeks ago. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.040 I was come to fruition. While you're on. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.840 Board, narcissist, it's not always about you say. I always 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.720 had a soft spot for the Bears as a as 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:07.440 a young fan, my favorite player was Greg Florimo. He 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.400 never ever ever played a bad game. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.800 Float I saw him last night in the green room 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.359 and he still looks fit enough to play center three quarter. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:15.320 What about Billy Moore? 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.279 Billy Moore looks terrific as well. I'd tell you him 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.680 my fate. One of my favorite players was and he 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.520 was so ahead of his time because it was an 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.400 athlete thirty years ago like today's Mark Graham. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.240 That's right, player, wasn't goodness? 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.120 He was a good player. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:32.640 He's a monster too, wasn't he mad? 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.000 He was like Sonny Bill Williams back then? That fit 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.320 you know that pH Zeke. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.120 But like you and I chump of the week, who 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:41.479 you got? 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.159 I'm going off the footpath here with the EPL English 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.040 Premier League bag. Yes, well there's a month to go 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:56.480 in the season and there was absolutely no interest. Liverpool 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:01.039 have been crowned the champions. The bottom three clubs, which Town, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:07.039 Leicester City and South hamps Hampton are relegated. There that 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.280 far below the next West Ham. It's all over. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.400 So what do you what are you saying? What are 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:13.960 you suggesting? 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:18.560 Well, the NFL have finals and Super Bowl, the n 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.000 b A, the n r L. Do you know the 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.080 Olympics have sent me some finals And I know it's tradition, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.800 and I know I've offended rugby people, and I'm now 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.920 going to offend the soccer type. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.440 Are We're just going to just ostracize every single sport 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.640 outside of rugby league. Now I get dragged into it 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:38.960 by association all. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.760 The league about the head high tackle. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.920 Wherebe people have. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.400 To change with the it's like origin rules that were 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:50.800 made in nine and eighty. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.160 Because the EPL often goes down to the last weekend, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.880 doesn't a lot of times it's a race to the finish. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.320 What you that's that's we need the McIntire system applied 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:11.400 to the epring having an opinion heavy but anyway, I 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.720 just kept making it very clear that's Buzzer's opinion. I'm 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.240 just only just getting back onside with the rugby union fans. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.600 I don't want to piss off the soccer fans, although 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.120 I probably will. You know who my chump is? Who me? 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.720 Why I'm giving myself an uppercut? 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:28.680 So I should have done that with your son. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.440 Last week, while I was wrapping Ostra Piastre, I said 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:40.000 that Jack Braban, Alan Jones and Mark Webber Australians who 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.000 had previously won Formula one world titles. Mark Webber did 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.320 not so Jack Brabon won a three times fifty nine, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.960 sixty and sixty six. Alan Jones, the race car driver, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:54.720 not the controversial broadcaster he won in nineteen eighty Webster 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.679 you hack, you dog, You are my chump of the week. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.400 Early as bad as calling West End. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.680 Going to the theater on the East End London's yes 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.240 you you. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.959 Anyway, Gibra. Okay, it's not very famous to the West End. 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.199 No, not at all, not at all. Have you ever 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.640 been to the Are you a theater guy? No, neither 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.240 of I never. Right, Well, Buzz, you've got a really 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.200 big breaking story in terms of the bunker. It's been 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.400 the major issue in the game, not just last weekend, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.000 but over the last month has just been looney tunes 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:43.160 in rugby league land in terms of the adjudicating, particularly 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.320 the video ref what he got for me? 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.400 Buzz yeah, wybe, I think it's the story or rugby 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:53.680 league fans will be happy with. The NRL are going 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.959 to take steps at the end of the season. Well, 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.800 they're not going to put a bomb under the bunker. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.960 But what they are going to do, who is hire 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:05.640 three or four full time specialists. They won't be current referees, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:11.360 they'll be bunker specialists to do nothing but adjudicate on 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:17.120 games from heavily the studios, their high definition screens, slow 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.360 mate the lot to try and improve what we've seen 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.520 this year. Who will what sort of person will be 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.120 in there. They'll be ex referees, people like Matt check 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.200 and Ben Cummins were great referees. When they retired, they 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.400 lost to the game. What will happen now is they'll 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.920 encourage people like those who I just mentioned at the 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.320 back end of their careers to take these jobs on. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.000 They'll get more training, they'll be bought up to speed 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:48.160 with you know, how the technology works and all those 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.400 sorts of things. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.200 More consistency, Yeah. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.760 There will be more consistency will be which is really 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.840 really important and brings down the number of people operate. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.120 One of the problems I've had with the bunker and 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.439 current referee's do it. You're going to have a guy 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.240 who has a game on a Saturday, he has a shocker, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.200 he's confidence shattered, he doesn't sleep at night, and he's 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.719 got to get into everly studios the next day and 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.000 adjudicated on a game. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:13.959 Crazy. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:14.920 It really is. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.640 For a professional code like the NRL, which is constantly 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.600 telling us how much money they've got, Like it just 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.199 seems it seems very amateurish and buzz didn't they say 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.480 the start of the year there was going to be 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:30.800 a group of dedicated bunker officials to bring consistency the game. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.679 And whether it's happened or not, it's the outcome hasn't 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.960 been there, has it? Because it's been hasn't been as 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.600 messy as it has been in the last month. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.480 Yeah, And from what I'm told where he's referees don't 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.160 particularly like working in the bunker. They do want to 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.880 be out in the field, but at the back end 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.320 of their careers when they are looking, you know, they've 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.600 got to take on some sort of job. And there 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.840 are a couple they are getting towards the back end 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.000 who will be approached as part of this operation to 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.600 take on the role on thing the NRL doing that. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.200 They've got to be proactive. They've got a major major, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:10.200 you know, loss of confidence and fans or stakeholders. And yeah, 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.120 I like it. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.959 Works four day weeks, that's sort. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.920 Of it sounds like one of yours. Dare you it does. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:18.920 I do four days in one? 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:20.000 Do you? 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.080 But you know, you know, you know what but this 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.720 is that you make a really good point, Buzz like 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.040 blokes like Checking and and Cummings like that's knowledge and 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.800 experience that you know that that's very hard to find 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.520 in in officiating. Those guys have been involved in some 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.439 of the biggest games, and everyone talking about Cummings and 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.880 the six to go like that's that was. Referees make mistakes. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.760 But to have that sort that level of experience in 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.560 the bunker and that consistency from week to week, that 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.520 is exactly what the game is crying out for. But 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.600 you cannot have the situation like we had at the 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:59.320 weekend of where some players are staying on the field 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.360 for knee other players in the head and not you 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.439 know how bad that is terrible. Whereas yeah, and then 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.520 Polo in the in the Tigers game was terrible. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.880 I said on radio, wouldn't it not me out poo? 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.200 He wouldn't have I'd pay him to do it. Yeah 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.719 would But you're right though, But that was that was 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.480 a shocker, wasn't it made? 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.640 It was a terrible incident that he'd not only need 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.480 him with his right now you come back with you 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.040 so left he stayed on the football field, not even Sinbin. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.000 I would have send him off. I guarantee you he'd 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.559 gone before Jim Coleman's in the wild old days. He 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.800 would have got six weeks. We got two. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.160 What do you what do you think of the way 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.760 Abdo gone on the front foot and did the PR 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.120 circuit on Monday? 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.839 Oh I thought he did. Okay, you know, I won't 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.480 wear the fact that he's saying it's not a crackdown, it's. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.320 A policy change. Well, something's changed. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.200 Well, there are one hundred and forty percent Simbins people 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.439 on Reporter up seventy five percent. Of course it's a crackdown. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.680 They've over corrected themselves from a problem they had in 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.040 one around when they missed a few. That's right, they've 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.199 over corrected, and. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.800 As a consequence, we're now going into another magic round 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.000 shrouded in uncertainty. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.079 Yeah, and I forget who said I think Joe said it. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.839 Working class people I mentioned on this show all the time, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:20.000 save for weeks and weeks and weeks for their flights, accommodation, food, 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.840 ground entry, they get up there and they're watching Yeah 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.080 thurday and on two. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:27.960 I agree. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.920 I think they'll drop off this week. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.120 Yeah, I think they will but then they open themselves 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.720 up to being inconsistent again, like its look to be honest, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.800 they can't win in many respects, they can't, but there's 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.360 just there has to be there's no way that they 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:48.160 can have some of the incidents exactly crazy. But I 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.520 can't believe like I would have sent current from the 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.200 field from that in that Bulldog's Broncos game. I thought 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.160 that was terrible that the shoulder charge on paying hears 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.480 how he can get tending to be in pole a 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.480 can get the same same punishment from a different game. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:09.200 Is like, that's that's a game that's at two polar spectrum. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.600 To blame the refs, they've got to back stop there. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.440 I hate to be a ref. Fast Well, this is 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.120 what I reckon the game again. And I also don't 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.040 blame what they also. And I was on s c 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.200 N on on Saturday and we had Craig Bellamy and 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.160 I asked him this question. I said, Belly, it must 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.200 be extremely difficult for a player and a coach these days. 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.640 The game's gotten immeasurably quicker in the last four or 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.320 five years because of the the six to go rule. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.560 The players have never been quicker. They've never been stronger, 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.160 they've never been more agile. And if you're trying to 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.960 and they're all coming together so much quicker, it's so 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.120 hard for him not to hit each other, you know 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:53.200 what I mean. Like, it's just it's different to today's. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.600 It needs more common sense and I think this will 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.720 go a long way to being achieved with full time 0:15:58.920 --> 0:15:59.880 specialists in there. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.920 Remember you heard it here first. Absolutely, unless, of course 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.560 it doesn't happen. Okay, let's get to the news of 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.200 the week, and there's a bit going on. Let's get 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:15.040 to the Western Bears, who we broke, sorry buzz broke 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.480 on this program last week. We had agreed in principle 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.480 to be admitted into the NRL from twenty twenty seven. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.160 The thing that surprised everybody is that the NRL have 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.720 just gone straight after out of work, well not out 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:36.360 of work. Former NRL coach Brader, he's at Leeds, but 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:37.880 he's not obviously in the NRL. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.920 What Wayne, Bam, thank you, ma'am, is just appointed as 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:43.000 head coach. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.720 There was a strange it's strange to have you mearmarked 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.000 already as the coach. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.200 Andrew, I ask you, where is the due diligence, Who 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.640 made the appointment? Who decided Brad arthuris to coach this franchise? 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.000 Did they ring Craig Bellamy? Did they make it call 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.480 to Wayne Bennett? Did they check out Trent Robinson who 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:10.320 people say, you know who knows they're in Cleary, I 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.040 need a change? Did they No? 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:13.840 I don't think they did. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.080 They just appointed Brad Arthur, who's never won a comport power. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.119 And I'm not begging Brad Arthur one little bit. I 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.679 just want to know if they checked what else was 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.880 around for other options? Did the Bears get to say 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:35.120 the Bears had no idea? Absolutely no idea. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.560 It seems like nobody had any idea. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.920 Who made the appointment? Well, then of Orlandis was Andrew Abdall? 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:42.960 Was it the commission? 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.800 I don't know, Buss, but such. 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:51.560 A significant appointment. You need a magnet for players, You 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.760 need top echelon coaching, you do. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.639 I find it bizarre that they've they've identified the coach 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.320 before they went and got the board, the CEO, the 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.600 recruitment manager. I would have thought they were just as 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.879 important before you worked out who your coach was. Do 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:14.320 you reckon how many? How many? How many players. Is 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:15.680 Brad Arthur going to drag there? 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.879 I don't know. He might have got Dylan Brown, Sorry, 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.000 but I thought he might have got Dylan Brown, but 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.160 he's gone to Newcast. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.800 Do you remember how hard it was for Bennett, the 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:32.720 most successful coach ner to build that Dolphins squad. So 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.159 what's Brad Arthur going to do? 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.399 But Wayne being the face of that club was a 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:45.160 significant reason behind their success, an amazing success in being 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.200 so competitive so soon, And I think I just wanted 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.359 to know why other people weren't even considered. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.280 It's not too much, I agree. I agree, it's going 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.760 to be interesting how it all like? Who they who 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.760 they get? I know that I've read reports that they've 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.640 identified paying Hass to go over there. I can't see 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.320 him leaving Brisbane. It depends on the money obviously. 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.720 But paying halfs will be the first one point five 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.000 million dollar front row. Ever, the way he's going it 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.600 was half back money. A prop like just playing the 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:24.879 game on form this year so normally it's Cleary or 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.240 pin up, but on form this year, paying Hass is 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:29.600 the number one play in rugby. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.440 When was the last time a prop on the dam, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:31.960 if at all? 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.520 Never I can't recall one. 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.920 I can't even remember a Ford. Gavin Miller won it once, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:39.440 didn't you? 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.040 Gavin Miller won a couple. Gavin Miller won a couple. 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:44.399 Very good. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.160 Okay, what's next? 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:51.000 Webby Dragon's coach Shane Fldagan has dropped half back Lachland 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.720 Ilias for the match against the West Tigers. The young 0:19:54.800 --> 0:20:00.720 gun like a King Tonga. Hopefully I haven't pronound that nearly. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.359 He's coming in in his place. There's a lot of 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.720 raps on that kid. I know the Knights are after 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.399 him and they've just extended him at the at the Dragons. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.000 What do you think buzz of Ilias getting the chop 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:16.560 for the Anzac Day massacre. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.040 Yeah? Well, Shane Flanagan had that bad press conference after 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.239 about round three or four and he basically dumped on 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.080 Locky Elias said, didn't he? So he's given him another 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.680 three to four weeks. Even his manager Braith and Nash 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.439 to concede on an R three sixty a few weeks 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:36.320 back that look he was playing for his spote and look, 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.359 I can understand the change had to be made around 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.359 the Haars because they're seasons slipping away on them. The 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:46.360 only thing I don't like is that Saint George put 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.679 seventeen players onto the park on Anzac Day, and I 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.080 reckon fourteen or fifteen of them were very, very ordinary 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.760 and Locke had a lot of mates and to pick 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.119 out the half is it tough? 0:20:59.320 --> 0:20:59.560 Yeah? 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.000 It is. But I can also understand it because they 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.080 go nowhere with him playing there. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.760 Before hang on, before this game, they'd gone one back 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.680 to back games. I thought, I think it's unfair. I 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.280 thought it was a little bit earlier. I think the 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.960 drama for Flanno Shane Flanagan is that his son's in 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.160 the team and also in the halves are not going great. 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.399 I think Kyle's playing okay, but you know, I'm a 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.600 Dragons fan. Buzz and my phone lit up with text 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.520 messages about Kyle Flanagan, not Lachlan Ilius on his suggesting 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.880 well not just suggesting that he wasn't playing particularly well. 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.680 And this is going to be the drama for Shane 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.280 Flanigan whilever he's coaching his son in that team. Is 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.840 that like there's going to be claims of favoritism. I'm 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.679 not saying that's the case. I'm not saying that's the case, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.320 but you know, Kyle's Kyle's a solid player, but he's 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:48.280 not He's not brilliant. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.320 I've said before, unless you're Johnny Lang and Martin Lang 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:57.120 and Ivan Cleary and Nathan Cleary. My goodness, it's hard 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.960 to coach your Sanbozo had a manly with Scott and 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.880 Bread and claims of nepotism picking them over the top 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:08.680 more players who probably deserve the jersey a bit more. Look, 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.720 I don't want to go into the Flannagan situation. I 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.680