1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey there, Welcome to Healthy Ish, your daily podcast from 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Body and Soul. Of course, I am the host of 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Felicity Harley. Now it'd be different for us today, but 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: I thought it was well a great chat to inspire 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: better health and well being. And don't worry, we're not 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: turning into a book club. Author and founder of the 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Spiritual book Club just into Tyne and joins us in 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: the studio to share a few books that has inspired her, 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: that have changed her life for the better, and she 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: thought you might like them too. Now we do keep 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: our Healthy sh episodes quite short, so if you want 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: to hear today's full interview where we go into the 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: importance of well thinking and can it really change your life, 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: you can grab that wherever you get podcasts. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Healthy Shots like a second home. Great 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: to feel you this might be your third time on. 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: I think it is not counting though, it's as a 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: joy Felicity. 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh likewise, and I'm actually excited to talk about this 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: because you know you and I have both authors. 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: I just thought i'd dropped that in. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: So we know the power of books. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: The power of words, absolutely. 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: But talk to us about how they can be so 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: impactful and helpful and powerful for our mental health and 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: well being. 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you wouldn't necessarily think so. You don't think of 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: books like that, do you. But I think we've all 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: had that experience where you can pick up a book 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: randomly off a shelf and open to a page at 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: exactly the moment that you needed to see those words 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: and they can cut right through. And I've certainly had 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: that happen to me. That the right book at the 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: right time can literally transform your life. And I love 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: spiritual slash inspirational books. I love those kind of books 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: self help books they're also called, which is why I 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: started a book club specifically for those kinds of books, 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: the Spiritual Book Club, So I know that those kinds 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: of books they can offer comfort and inspiration and shift 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: your perspective and give you connection both to yourself, to 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: your higher self and to others and really cut through 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: and change your life. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: Books are so powerful, Like they are so powerful. 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: I often when I read a good book, I find 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: myself telling so many people about it, and then I 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: think to myself, Oh, we need to shut up about 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: that book. 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: You may as well be the pr for that book. 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: But it's amazing how particular ones can sink in at 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: a particular time that you need. 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a saying. 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't know who to attribute it to, but they say, 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: when the teacher is ready, when the student is ready, 54 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: the teacher appears. And I always think that teacher might 55 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 3: be a book because someone will mention it just when 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: you need to hear it, or you'll spot it on 57 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: a bookshelf. And that's happened to me. And I've got 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: a teasing pile by my bed. I'm sure many people do. 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: And also my kindle is packed with these books and 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: you just pick it up, open at any page, particularly 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: with a spiritual book, and just read a few words 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: and it can completely transform. 63 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: The way you go about your day. What about book 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: talk to BookTalk? 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't use tiktop march, I have to say, but 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: sometimes I go on and put actually key book top 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: because I'm interested to see what people are recommending. 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: And there are pros and cons of this. You into this, No, 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: I'm not. I probably should be right. I'm a bit behind. 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: I'm always a late adopted, but I do know what 71 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: it is, of course, and I've seen a few clips. 72 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: I think it's a great thing. 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: Anything that encourages reading, and it's great for publishing as 74 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: well to have this resurgence of books. 75 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: But I also think it's a big it's. 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: Noisy out there, and so if books are your thing, 77 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: and if you're seeking niche, a particular niche of books, 78 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: then of course I'm going to say this, but I 79 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: think book clubs at the go, because you know, there 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: are book clubs that are more specific for your kinds 81 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: of books, which is why I started. 82 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk us through some books that have changed your life, 83 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: give us some inspiration of things that perhaps our listeners 84 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: can well read and be inspired and potentially change their lives. 85 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: It's so hard to narrow it down, but I'm going 86 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: to do it. I'm going to do the work for 87 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: you all to just give you a few that change 88 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: my life, and I pretty much guarante they will do 89 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: the same for you because they have for millions of others. 90 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: I think number one and a lot. 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: Of people will hear this and go ah, yes, of course. 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: The Alchemist by Paula Coelo, and this is iconic. 93 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: This book. 94 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: It's actually a fable, so it's fiction, and it's about 95 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: following your dreams and finding your destiny and There's a 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: whole lot of profound teachings in there, but the one 97 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: that stands out that resonates with millions of people over 98 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: the years is that we all have a destiny, and 99 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: in the book it's called your personal legend, and the 100 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: idea is that if we go through life knowing that 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: and trying to realign with that destiny, then we're going 102 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: to be fulfilled in the end. There might be details 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: along the way, as there are for the Shepherd Boy 104 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: in this story, but we get there in the end. 105 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: What's your destiny? 106 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you are throwing that at me, do you know? 107 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: Actually one of them creating the Spiritual Book Club is 108 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: I feel very aligned with that at the moment. I 109 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: think my destiny is probably, like you, to be a storyteller, 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: and that's in many different ways to each people through words, 111 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: and that's why I became a journalist and an author. 112 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: But I actually have another one that I haven't yet fulfilled, 113 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: if I ever will, which is the same idea of storytelling. 114 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: But I always wanted to be an actor, and yes, 115 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: and whenever I read a book like The Alchemist and 116 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: some of the others, I'm going to tell you about 117 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: that stirs in me. And it's that when they say, 118 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: what's that voice of your soul? What is it calling 119 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: you to do? I had go shushush no. I don't 120 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: have time for that. So I can't hear that one. 121 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: So maybe one day. 122 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: Interesting watch this space. 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: I feel like The Alchemist is a book that you 124 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: can revisit time, and I think I've actually read it 125 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: twice in my life, and only twice inspired me to 126 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: pick it up for a third time. What's another book 127 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: that's impacted you? One that I've read recently. It's The 128 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Untethered Soul by Michael Singers. It is more it's newer 129 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: than The Alchemist. But I think a lot of people 130 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: are catching on to this. It's such an extraordinary book. 131 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: It's one of those books again that will absolutely change 132 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: the way you view yourself and the world we're in. 133 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: It's the idea that we have to become aware of 134 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: the constant inner dialogue in our minds, and then by 135 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: observing our thoughts, we can distance ourselves from them and 136 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: then realize that they actually are true and they don't 137 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: define us. And so it's also about surrender that I 138 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: found that really powerful, that idea Michael singer wrote another 139 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: book called The Surrender Experiment, and it's the idea of 140 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: just instead of trying to force everything, just get in 141 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: flow with the universe and just trust the universe and 142 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: hand it over when. 143 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: It all gets too hard. 144 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: Give us another one, The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron. 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: Do you know that one? No, So that's another one 146 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: that I've. 147 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: Revisited many times over the years. It's like a guide, 148 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: so it's kind of like a work book. But don't 149 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: let that turn you off, because there's a lot you 150 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: can just read it as well. But it's about rediscovering 151 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: your creative self and your passions. And we're all creative. 152 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Many people hear that and they think, oh, I'm not 153 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: a painter. Creativity is everything. It's motherhood, it's cooking, it's food, 154 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: it's writing, it's painting, it's what. There's so many expressions 155 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: of creativity, and many of us lose sight of that 156 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: as we get older and we separate ourselves from our 157 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: true essence. So the Artist's Way is so powerful with 158 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: these incredible exercises to help us get back in touch 159 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: with that essence. Say just saying for a friend, you know, 160 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: if you're acting, was your passion and you'd hidden it, 161 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: it would It helps get you back into alignment, and 162 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: you do these things called the morning pages, So every 163 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: morning you write stream of consciousness for three pages without 164 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: lifting your pen and just let your inner voice come through. 165 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: That's from the Artist's. 166 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Way, and many many creative, really successful creatives will say 167 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: that they got their start from working with the Artist's Way, 168 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: and it led me to write my first book to. 169 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go, give us a final book. 170 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Gosh, where do I which one? 171 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: While I pick, well, I think I'll mention The Universe 172 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: Has your Back by Gabby Earnstein, because that's really it's 173 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: a simple introduction to the idea of manifestation. If that's 174 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: to you and the universe. People hear us talk about 175 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: the universe, what is that? Well, she describes it in 176 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: a really spiritual concept, in a really relatable and reach 177 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: reachable format. That's what Gabie Bernstein's famous for. So it's 178 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: the idea that we can manifest the life we desire 179 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: through aligning our beliefs and thoughts and actions. And she 180 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: just makes it all seem very accessible. 181 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: That is the word, isn't it accessible? Actually we had 182 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: her on talking about that exact thing. So yeah, she's good. 183 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: Just int town. 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: Lovely having you back. 185 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: Thanks, great to be here. Thank you. 186 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite book, a book that's changed 187 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: your life? I have one. It is called The Good Life, 188 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: and I highly recommend it. It was written by the Harvard 189 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: psychologists who are currently working on the longest study into 190 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: human health and happiness. Now I've talked about this many 191 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: times on the podcast, just sums it all up and 192 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: basically dishes up all their findings. It is wonderful. 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