WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 8 May 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:04.439 On scorn Loves Australia. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.720 This is the Reader Panalty Show. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.600 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panekey Show. Coming 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.200 up tonight with the demise of Adam band, who among 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.120 the Green senators will be the next leader of the 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.639 far left party, Gary Hartgrave and Nikata will join me 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.720 shortly to discuss the day's top stories, including how Advance 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.480 brought down the cocky Greens leader. French President Emmanuel mccron 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.120 meets with Siria's Islam as President and immediately calls for 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.120 sanctions to be eased. Josh Hammer will be here to 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.800 discuss that and the latest from the US, and later 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.000 in the hour Best in the Business Kinsey Schofield, we'll 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.120 have the latest celebrity and royal news. Left is losing it. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.279 We never forget that. It features an update on this 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.760 woman spoiler she's gone to jail. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:57.279 What the what do I have to do Council in 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.480 order to get respect as a black woman. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.600 I'm not afraid of anybody here. But first, the Greens 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.480 have been dealt a terrible blow. The party have been 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.200 being effectively annihilated from the Lower House. They've gone from 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.600 holding four seats to just one, falling well short of 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.520 their stated goal of nine seats, and among the casualties, 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.080 of course, is former leader Adam Bant losing his seat 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:26.880 of Melbourne to Labor. Conservative Lobby group Advances claimed responsibility. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.800 I've done no, my home was never on the ground. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.480 I'm not nor myle was never on the. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:52.440 I've got now was by Matthew she In advents a 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:53.240 Stradia camera. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.640 Joining me now for more on this is the panel, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.000 Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave and Menzies Research Center scene 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.320 Fella Nikata. Gary, I'll start with you. Advance ran an 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.080 effective campaign. Their goal was to get the Greens. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.320 Yeah, well they're going to take credit for it. But 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.320 Australia got the Greens and I'm not sure they're actually 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.920 even going to hold that one seat of Ryan that 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.680 I think is still a bit up in the air. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.760 Labor is probably more likely to end up with that seat, 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.400 which will make it interesting. But look, you know, in 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.200 the end, it was all about it. If you came second 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:29.200 or third, you won. In Ryan, for instance, the Liberal 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.440 candidate was six thousand votes in front of but the 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.600 Greens and Labor. If you're going to go with the 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.200 sort of don't really like Australia stuff. You're going to 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.760 go with the kind of name calling, juvenile university politics stuff. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.919 People are going to judge you poorly, and I must 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.000 have been. I'm a bit surprised about Max Chandler May 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.800 that everyone told me, Everyone told me he was a guru, 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.560 he was never going to lose. I'm actually right now 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.760 in the electorate of Griffin. He was never going to lose. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.840 That everyone told me he's gone. So you know, in 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.080 the end the guru has gone. Who him? But I 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.480 just say it is purely by the way the numbers fell. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.320 The nasty left is out, that's good, but a lot 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.760 of it's still in labor and that's not so good. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.520 We'll see how that rolls over the next three years. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.240 Well, Nick, everyone thought Adam Bant was pretty safe as well. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.680 I don't know, maybe he should have hosted less dance 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.320 parties and occasionally made an appearance in his electorate. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.800 Look, I'm trying, reader to show the necessary compassion that 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.760 one should always show to somebody who loses their job suddenly. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.800 But I'm struggling. I'm struggling. I have to admit it. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.160 It's a terrific move and I will just give a 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.480 shout out to Advance. They did play a major role 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.040 behind the scenes in this whole exercise, and they haven't 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.720 got the credit. Advance, if you remember, is of course 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.600 a big player too in the Voice debate. They are 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.320 really become a very powerful force for good in the 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.440 political debate, much as Get Up used to be on 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.480 the other side. But where's get Up now? I mean 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.840 I heard here. They're really on the ropes and possibly 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:03.440 going to fold. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:04.800 So it's great. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.560 It's great to see the people on the conservative center 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.080 right do something really well in this space because we 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.680 need that uplift, don't we after this rather dismal campaign. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:17.520 Yeah. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.680 Well, Advanced are clever in how they do things. They 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:27.000 have limited resources, it seems, but they get maximum bang 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.320 for their buck. We saw it during the Voice campaign. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.240 We saw it with their social media work. During this campaign, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.680 of course, their target was primarily to get the Greens. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.040 The Greens. I've been plunged into crisis mode with the 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.640 party blaming liberal and one Nation preferences for losing their 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.440 leader instead of I don't know, taking a moment to 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:53.320 reflect on their missteps. One labor saucer said of Adam 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.560 Bant and his party. It turns out being morally superior 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:02.359 has a shelf life. Blame Labor, he'll blame the Liberals, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:07.440 He'll blame voters, but he'll never blame himself. That quote 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.760 given to the Australian newspaper Gary. The Australian is reporting 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:16.159 that Larissa Waters the Senate leader the South Australian Senator 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.800 Sarah Hanson Young. They're the two front runners to be 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:24.279 the new leader. Also, Marine Ferruki is in the running. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.200 Oh boy, if she's the answer, how stupid's the question? Look, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.680 I would reckon Larissa Waters is probably most likely out 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.159 of Queensland. She's been around a lot and she's won 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.359 her return for six more years in the Senate. But 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.000 that's it. They've gone from the house. There are absolutely 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.760 no use to anybody when it comes to the Labor 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.359 Party government. And I think that's probably, to be fair, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.680 a good thing that the Labor Party can govern in 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.400 their own right. Everything is their own goal or otherwise. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.120 But in the Senate different matter, and the Greens will 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.640 try and tear them from to the left. We'll probably 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:02.200 see more taxes on super unrealized capital gains, tax taxes 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.520 on housing, all those things. The Greens have been hoping 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.600 and are wishing for for years because the Labor Left, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.680 which is half the caucus, is going to go mad 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.200 during this term. Albo says he's going to govern for 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.080 all Australians, but only if the Left and his party 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.120 room lets him. And that's going to be the problem 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.200 because the Labor Party is fundamentally attached to the idea 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.400 of redistribution of wealth, taxing people who lift and giving 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.240 it to people who lean, and that is your problem. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.039 They're going to run out of other people's money at 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.080 some stage. So you know, my grandchildren, I've got a 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.359 couple of another one soon to arrive. They're going to 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.560 be asking the years from now, doo'd you do? Granddad? Well, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.520 I've had to go. I spoke to rid A Pana here, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.080 I was with Nick Kata. I've had a try. But 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.520 their children and maybe their children's children are still going 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.120 to be paying off the debt that's going to be 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.560 clocked up over the next three years thanks to the 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.120 Labor Left. Nick. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.040 He makes an excellent point there, does Gary. The Greens 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.440 are probably going to have the balance of power in 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.040 the Senate, and if Labor opts to deal with them 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:08.440 as opposed to the other crossbenches or doing deals with 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:13.680 the coalition. We may have a government that is even 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.200 more radically left than the one we've seen in the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.160 last three years. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.320 Yeah, this is a symbolic victory in the lower House, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.040 of course, with the size of majority that Anthony Albaneze 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.280 is going to have, you know, Adam Banton his chums 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.680 would have been triddling their fingers really in there. The 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.440 real work will be done in the upper House, where 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.560 as you say, they've got the balance of power, so 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.400 Labor will be inclined to move further to the radical left. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.520 And don't forget there's a lot of people within their 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.480 own party, within their own backbench now who really should 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.520 be in the Green Party. But I guess they wanted 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.480 to be in Labor because they've got more chance of 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.360 actually being in government. So that's something to watch out for. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.240 But I would give some free advice to Larissa Waters. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.520 I assume, like the rest of us, she never misses 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.600 an episode of your show, Reta. But my advice is this, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.800 get back to the tree hugging, you know. I mean, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.160 I don't think I ever saw rightaway with the Greens, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.280 but they are much nicer bunch when they're actually trying 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.600 to save nature, which we'd all like to do, and 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.880 do it without fear or favor. So when they're bulldozing 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.440 bits of native forest to put up wind farms, you 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.320 should be out on the streets. You should be out 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.160 snarling in front of the bulldozers for that. Let's see 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.560 this old style Bob Brown. I never thought I'd be 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.600 yearning for the return of Bob Brown, but please, that's 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:28.600 where they should be going. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.880 Oh yes, we missed Bob Brown these days. Now, the 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:38.520 Senate battle for Tasmania's two remaining seats is heating up 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.880 Jackie Lamby and Lee Hanson. That's Pauline Hanson's daughter, Lee Hanson. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.120 Among the four remaining candidates, two seats have already gone 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.880 to Labor, one to the Liberals, and one of the Greens. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.160 Amid the Senate battle, Pauline Hanson has hit out at 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.400 Lamby's saying that she votes with the Greens or the 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.720 Labor Party and she doesn't have any idea about the policies. Nick, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.280 I'll start with you. Jackie Lamby has provided me with 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.280 plenty of content, particularly for Left. He's losing it. But 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.520 will she be much of a loss. If she doesn't 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:18.240 make it. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.840 It should be a loss to you're show reader, but 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.800 not to the Parliament in fact. And I don't know. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.920 I don't know Pauline's I don't know Pauline's daughter at all, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.120 but I just take it that if she's a chip 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.839 off the old block, I think i'd rather up her. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.600 It's nice to see Pauline Hanson. She's behaving like a 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.840 soccer mum, isn't she. She's sort of, you know, like 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.080 you go to these kick soccer games and the parents 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.000 are yelling from the touch line. It seems to me 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.720 what she's doing here. But good hon her, and good 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.240 on her daughter for having the courage to stand, and 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.320 good on the Tasmanian people for recognizing somebody who will 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.840 really represent their interests as opposed to somebody who votes 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.640 with labor Green's whoever, and just looks always rather wild 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.959 and angry. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.840 And makes some of the most demented comments I have heard. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.079 Remember when she wanted to lock up Elon Musk for 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:12.960 having free speech on X. I mean, incredible antics, Gary, 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.720 You've got to say about Tasmania though, I mean they're 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.360 an example of why the Senate is called unrepresentative swill 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.400 as Paul Keating said some years ago. 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.160 Yeah, well he did say it, and I get what 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.400 he says. But look, that's the deal we've signed up. 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.160 Our constitution says first states, the six first ones under 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:37.120 the constitution all got twelve senators. Well originally it was ten. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.760 So you know, I also would quote what Graham Richardson observed, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.600 and I'm sure I'm not misreading or misrepresenting Richo. He 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.600 was concerned when Labor brought in extra senators for each 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:52.400 state by increasing the size of the House of Representatives 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.440 in nineteen eighty four. He said, we're going to rule 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.880 the day. We're going to end up with some crazy 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.760 people in the Senate. Now you know, make of that, 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.120 which I like, but we're going to end up with 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.920 a few interesting results. And so one of the best 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.120 things that could be done, if we were serious about 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.880 what was good for Australia is to actually reform the parliament. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.120 Fewer members in the House, drive down the numbers in 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.240 the Senate, actually have fewer senators, and that way you 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.880 needed a bigger chunk of vote to get elected. You'd 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.800 be more mainstream automatically, and you wouldn't have some of 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.880 the kind of well entertaining for the readA Panahy show 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.640 kind of contributions from some people in the Senate just 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.400 saying but look, I'm not rewriting the Electoral Act right now, 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.280 but if they want me to, I could bring in 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.440 first past the post voting, make it non compulsory voting. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.240 These sorts of things I think are all part of 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.800 the reform. But winners are never going to change the 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.559 system that got them across the line. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.920 Absolutely, those last two suggestions I think are very sensible. Indeed, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.520 first past the post and make it optional. Why should 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.440 you be forced to vote with the threat of a fine. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.320 Now I want to bring to your attention a couple 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.560 of pieces in the Australian News paper and see where 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.679 you stand on this debate. Paul Kelly has argued in 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.760 his column that the Liberals must return to the Howard 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.440 concept of the broad church in order to win. He 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:17.000 writes that its revival is the only viable strategy because 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.680 it opens the lens wide. It is inclusive, It incorporates 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.200 both the liberal and conservative traditions. It offers a broad 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.600 basis for public policy and a welcoming window for a 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.160 wide range of Australians. It would open the party to 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.040 the country, not shut its doors. Nick, is it a 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:41.520 little bit naive? Naive? Hasn't the political landscape changed markedly 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:46.600 since those Howard years? You could argue one of the Liberals' 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.080 biggest issues is at an identity crisis, where they try 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.120 to be all things to all people. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.480 I suppose I'm going to side with Paul on this. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.640 The thing is, reader, we have a west is the system. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.400 Westminster systems work a lot better when you have two 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.240 major parties and people join those parties with different views 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.600 and they argue that toss within them. I am all 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.880 for the broad Church, but on this condition that everybody 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.280 who wants to be in that broad church number one 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.000 has to subscribe to liberal values and number two has 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.240 to want the party to win the next election. Because 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:27.960 I sense there are people on the so called moderate 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.719 friends of the party who sometimes look to me as 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.840 if they don't want the party to win, and they'll 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.840 sabotage it at every opportunity. And that's what's going on 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.200 right at the moment over this, you know, this unseemly 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.360 battle over the leadership, which which you know, I mean, 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:46.600 just have that discussion respectfully behind closed doors, because the 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.920 longer this goes on, the more vicious it is, and 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.959 there's some horrible, horrible stuff being thrown around to Angus Taylor, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.480 completely unwarranted. But as long as this goes on Rita, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.920 the longer it'll be before the party ever has a 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.920 chance of getting back at it. And I personally support 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.200 the Liberal Party because I think they're better in government 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.439 than Labor, full stop, and I don't want to see 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.480 him in opposition a day longer than they have to be. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.160 Well, you say you disagree with my take, but what 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.920 you're arguing for is I think some sense of uniformity 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.680 within the party. Obviously going to have people with different passions, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.800 different points of view, but if they have to subscribe 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.440 to the Liberal position and they have to be disciplined 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.720 and loyal, then that is very different to the sort 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.880 of broad Church we have seen in recent years, where 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.360 there is the infighting, the moderates trying to get rid 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.080 of the Conservatives, the wide anting that's happened. And I've 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.720 got to say this piece by Janet Orbrickson in The 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:50.000 Australian is I think far more sensible advice. She argues 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:54.520 that without a firm foundation of values. A political party 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.040 is just a house of cards, and that instead of 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.760 the Liberal party running from the culture war, they need 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.960 to embrace them. She writes, everything is about culture. What 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.840 kind of country do you want to be? If liberals 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.960 don't start embracing that, explaining policies through the prism of 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.080 what kind of culture we want, they may as well 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.880 fold their tent and save donors a heck of a 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:23.480 lot of money. Gary, how do you see it? What 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.440 is the path forward for the liberals? How can they 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.080 become electable again after this catastrophic result. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.080 They've got to stand for stuff, although fall for everything. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.200 And look, I understand next point, and I also understand 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.680 Paul Kelly's point. And in theory, the concept of the 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.960 broad church is okay. But my caveats are this, You've 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.680 got to have purpose, you've got to have passion, you 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.440 have vision, you've got to be authentic. And so they 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 can have a broad range of personalities, a broad range 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:53.240 of policies, positions, and I guess a broad range of 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.360 moderate to more conservative views exercise. But in the end 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.320 you've got to actually galvanize all of that for a purpose. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.080 And the purpose has to be Australia and so the 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.720 Liberal Party desperately needs that kind of strength of leadership. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.600 When Sir Robert A. Mensis was around, the leadership was 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.400 against the extreme left, the communists. He took all of 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.080 that on. I remember reading Jim Killen's first speech in 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.080 early nineteen fifty six. I wasn't around, but I read 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.080 it years later. You know where he was talking about 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.160 the fight between mainland China and Free China, Taiwan and China. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.680 He was right onto the whole kind of threat of 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.960 the reds that were coming for us, the way that 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:35.640 society would change. John Howard equally also galvanized Australians for 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.360 a purpose. So a broad church got behind a leader, 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.920 and that's what we need. We need to have a 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:48.000 strength of leadership, authenticity, values based, to Janet Olbrigson's excellent point, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:53.320 values based, and to own the australianisms associated with everything. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.600 Stop the world trying to interfere with us, Make Australia 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.560 for Australia, make it great again. Can I say that? 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.600 I mean, you can't do it. Why are we getting 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.360 so scared? Every first bit of criticism from the left. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.120 Well, this seems to be the problem. They're so terrified 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.760 of some sort of media backlash, backlash from people who 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:19.919 will never back them in the activist class academia, and 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.680 they scared to actually have an authentic, principal, strong position 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.679 that is dramatically different to labor. And we saw that 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.920 at this election. We saw them go with this small 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.399 target strategy. It was a disaster. And yet you've got 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.719 all these hacks in the media telling them to do 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.080 more of that, to veer even more to the left, 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.320 to try to appeal to voters who are never going 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:46.040 to back them. Gentlemen, Gary Hartgrave Nicasia, thanks for your 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:51.000 time tonight, stilta karma Lefties losing at class. French President 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:56.240 Emmanuel mccron meets with Sirius Islamus President the brilliant Josh 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:07.960 Hammer joins me. Next, you're watching the Reader Panehy Show, 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.800 and it's time for left is losing it now. This 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.160 is just maddening. First, the heartbreaking story of two young 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.239 siblings missing in Nova Scotia for the better part of 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.680 a week. Canadian police are beginning to scale back search efforts. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.520 They say there are low odds that children will still 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.800 be alive. But listen to how they start a press 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:33.000 conference into this tragic story with a inane land acknowledgment. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:34.280 This is Canada. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.359 First, I acknowledge that we are in mcmagi the traditional 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.760 and unsuited and sacral territory of the Migmah people. I 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.080 also recognize that African Nova Scotians are a distinct people 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.000 whose histories, legacies, and contributions have enriched that part of 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.879 Mcmagie known as Nova Scotia for over four hundred years. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:55.280 Yep. Canada a country that has suffered enormous damage thanks 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.800 to the far left policies of the Trudeau government, and 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.880 they just voted for more of this same Let's look 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:05.160 at a couple celebrating Mark Carney's big win Canada. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:05.919 You hit it. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.160 You chose over hate, unity over. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:10.560 Division Trump techno. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.479 This is what democracy looks like. 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.919 Mark Kearney is the leader of Canada and what the 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.280 world needs right now, someone. 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.840 That's ready to stand strong against Trump and defend democracy. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.520 Tonight, Canada sent a. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:28.000 Message Tyranny doesn't win here, Fear doesn't win here, division 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:29.000 doesn't win here. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:29.400 Now. 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.000 I've tried all weeks to save you from the dangerous, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.480 weapon grade levels of cringe of this following interview a 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.639 podcast featuring Meghan Markel but alas we must all suffer together. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.399 Here is Meghan talking to a woman called Jamie kern Limo, 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.239 who seems to be even more fake and insufferable than 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:49.880 the Duchess. 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.280 Very first question, because I think in friendship it's so important, 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.159 and I think so many people also have this question 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:57.880 for you, is. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.960 You know, Meghan? How are you? And I'm okay, that's 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:02.560 so kind. 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:03.200 I am. 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.600 I'm better than okay. How are you? 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:07.760 I know? 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.480 You eyes make it about me today, which, by the way, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.040 I just have to say, you are the most generous friend. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.560 You show up for your friends. Today I just get 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:18.320 to talk about you. 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.360 Oh I'm excited about Yes, it really is that all 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.120 fool The whole hour long ordeal may have even been longer. 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.080 May have blacked out from smacking myself in the head. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.280 How else are you supposed to deal with trip like this? 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:36.000 Oh my gosh. I work so hard, and I appreciate 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:41.520 what hard work looks like. I like working hard, and 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.320 I'm still working hard. Right the moment that everything sells out, 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.000 it doesn't mean that we're done. Yeah, it means we're 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.639 working on replenishment. And what are the next cues and 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.439 what's the next tranch of products and what's the timing 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.800 on that, and writing the newsletters and writing the social 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.920 media captions and making sure that all that appeels in 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.320 line and what's the cadence of it, and what's the 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:58.760 photography that we want to do and what do I 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.720 want to wear for those shoots, while also editing all 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.919 the time coded notes for season two of With Love Meghan, 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.960 and then being an edits for the podcast and making 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.080 and being a mom and a wife and a friend. 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:14.960 Those are all jobs. 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.200 Yeah, Meghan wants you to know that she's so busy. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.680 She's got no staff, She's out there writing the social 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.400 media captions herself, so so busy. And don't forget she's 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.400 a princess too, and Harry is slaying dragons to rescue her. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.280 You know what we've built. We've built a beautiful life 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.280 and we have two healthy, beautiful children. And you know, 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.520 I always think about it like the end of Super 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.960 Mario Brothers, when you get to the final final level, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.000 what's the goal? And Super Mario they're like, slay the 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.040 dragon and save the princess. I'm like, that's my husband 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:47.800 who is. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.480 Harry, rescuing her from the family she abandoned before making 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.159