1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: On scorn Loves Australia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panekey Show. Coming 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: up tonight with the demise of Adam band, who among 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 3: the Green senators will be the next leader of the 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: far left party, Gary Hartgrave and Nikata will join me 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: shortly to discuss the day's top stories, including how Advance 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: brought down the cocky Greens leader. French President Emmanuel mccron 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: meets with Siria's Islam as President and immediately calls for 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: sanctions to be eased. Josh Hammer will be here to 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: discuss that and the latest from the US, and later 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: in the hour Best in the Business Kinsey Schofield, we'll 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: have the latest celebrity and royal news. Left is losing it. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: We never forget that. It features an update on this 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: woman spoiler she's gone to jail. 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 4: What the what do I have to do Council in 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: order to get respect as a black woman. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of anybody here. But first, the Greens 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: have been dealt a terrible blow. The party have been 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: being effectively annihilated from the Lower House. They've gone from 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: holding four seats to just one, falling well short of 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: their stated goal of nine seats, and among the casualties, 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: of course, is former leader Adam Bant losing his seat 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: of Melbourne to Labor. Conservative Lobby group Advances claimed responsibility. 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: I've done no, my home was never on the ground. 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not nor myle was never on the. 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 5: I've got now was by Matthew she In advents a 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: Stradia camera. 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is the panel, 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave and Menzies Research Center scene 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: Fella Nikata. Gary, I'll start with you. Advance ran an 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: effective campaign. Their goal was to get the Greens. 33 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're going to take credit for it. But 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: Australia got the Greens and I'm not sure they're actually 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: even going to hold that one seat of Ryan that 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: I think is still a bit up in the air. 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Labor is probably more likely to end up with that seat, 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: which will make it interesting. But look, you know, in 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the end, it was all about it. If you came second 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: or third, you won. In Ryan, for instance, the Liberal 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: candidate was six thousand votes in front of but the 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Greens and Labor. If you're going to go with the 43 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: sort of don't really like Australia stuff. You're going to 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: go with the kind of name calling, juvenile university politics stuff. 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: People are going to judge you poorly, and I must 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: have been. I'm a bit surprised about Max Chandler May 47 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: that everyone told me, Everyone told me he was a guru, 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: he was never going to lose. I'm actually right now 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: in the electorate of Griffin. He was never going to lose. 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: That everyone told me he's gone. So you know, in 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: the end the guru has gone. Who him? But I 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just say it is purely by the way the numbers fell. 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: The nasty left is out, that's good, but a lot 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: of it's still in labor and that's not so good. 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: We'll see how that rolls over the next three years. 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Well, Nick, everyone thought Adam Bant was pretty safe as well. 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe he should have hosted less dance 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: parties and occasionally made an appearance in his electorate. 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 6: Look, I'm trying, reader to show the necessary compassion that 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 6: one should always show to somebody who loses their job suddenly. 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 6: But I'm struggling. I'm struggling. I have to admit it. 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 6: It's a terrific move and I will just give a 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 6: shout out to Advance. They did play a major role 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 6: behind the scenes in this whole exercise, and they haven't 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 6: got the credit. Advance, if you remember, is of course 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: a big player too in the Voice debate. They are 67 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 6: really become a very powerful force for good in the 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 6: political debate, much as Get Up used to be on 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 6: the other side. But where's get Up now? I mean 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 6: I heard here. They're really on the ropes and possibly 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 6: going to fold. 72 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: So it's great. 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 6: It's great to see the people on the conservative center 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 6: right do something really well in this space because we 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 6: need that uplift, don't we after this rather dismal campaign. 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Well, Advanced are clever in how they do things. They 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: have limited resources, it seems, but they get maximum bang 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: for their buck. We saw it during the Voice campaign. 80 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: We saw it with their social media work. During this campaign, 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: of course, their target was primarily to get the Greens. 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: The Greens. I've been plunged into crisis mode with the 83 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: party blaming liberal and one Nation preferences for losing their 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: leader instead of I don't know, taking a moment to 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: reflect on their missteps. One labor saucer said of Adam 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Bant and his party. It turns out being morally superior 87 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: has a shelf life. Blame Labor, he'll blame the Liberals, 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: He'll blame voters, but he'll never blame himself. That quote 89 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: given to the Australian newspaper Gary. The Australian is reporting 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: that Larissa Waters the Senate leader the South Australian Senator 91 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: Sarah Hanson Young. They're the two front runners to be 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: the new leader. Also, Marine Ferruki is in the running. 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh boy, if she's the answer, how stupid's the question? Look, 94 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: I would reckon Larissa Waters is probably most likely out 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: of Queensland. She's been around a lot and she's won 96 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: her return for six more years in the Senate. But 97 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: that's it. They've gone from the house. There are absolutely 98 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: no use to anybody when it comes to the Labor 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: Party government. And I think that's probably, to be fair, 100 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: a good thing that the Labor Party can govern in 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: their own right. Everything is their own goal or otherwise. 102 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: But in the Senate different matter, and the Greens will 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: try and tear them from to the left. We'll probably 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: see more taxes on super unrealized capital gains, tax taxes 105 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: on housing, all those things. The Greens have been hoping 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: and are wishing for for years because the Labor Left, 107 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: which is half the caucus, is going to go mad 108 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: during this term. Albo says he's going to govern for 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: all Australians, but only if the Left and his party 110 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: room lets him. And that's going to be the problem 111 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: because the Labor Party is fundamentally attached to the idea 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: of redistribution of wealth, taxing people who lift and giving 113 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it to people who lean, and that is your problem. 114 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: They're going to run out of other people's money at 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: some stage. So you know, my grandchildren, I've got a 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: couple of another one soon to arrive. They're going to 117 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: be asking the years from now, doo'd you do? Granddad? Well, 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: I've had to go. I spoke to rid A Pana here, 119 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I was with Nick Kata. I've had a try. But 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: their children and maybe their children's children are still going 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: to be paying off the debt that's going to be 122 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: clocked up over the next three years thanks to the 123 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: Labor Left. Nick. 124 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: He makes an excellent point there, does Gary. The Greens 125 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: are probably going to have the balance of power in 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: the Senate, and if Labor opts to deal with them 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: as opposed to the other crossbenches or doing deals with 128 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: the coalition. We may have a government that is even 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: more radically left than the one we've seen in the 130 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: last three years. 131 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a symbolic victory in the lower House, 132 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 6: of course, with the size of majority that Anthony Albaneze 133 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 6: is going to have, you know, Adam Banton his chums 134 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 6: would have been triddling their fingers really in there. The 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 6: real work will be done in the upper House, where 136 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 6: as you say, they've got the balance of power, so 137 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 6: Labor will be inclined to move further to the radical left. 138 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 6: And don't forget there's a lot of people within their 139 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: own party, within their own backbench now who really should 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: be in the Green Party. But I guess they wanted 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 6: to be in Labor because they've got more chance of 142 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 6: actually being in government. So that's something to watch out for. 143 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: But I would give some free advice to Larissa Waters. 144 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: I assume, like the rest of us, she never misses 145 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 6: an episode of your show, Reta. But my advice is this, 146 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 6: get back to the tree hugging, you know. I mean, 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 6: I don't think I ever saw rightaway with the Greens, 148 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 6: but they are much nicer bunch when they're actually trying 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 6: to save nature, which we'd all like to do, and 150 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: do it without fear or favor. So when they're bulldozing 151 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 6: bits of native forest to put up wind farms, you 152 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 6: should be out on the streets. You should be out 153 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 6: snarling in front of the bulldozers for that. Let's see 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 6: this old style Bob Brown. I never thought I'd be 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: yearning for the return of Bob Brown, but please, that's 156 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: where they should be going. 157 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: Oh yes, we missed Bob Brown these days. Now, the 158 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: Senate battle for Tasmania's two remaining seats is heating up 159 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: Jackie Lamby and Lee Hanson. That's Pauline Hanson's daughter, Lee Hanson. 160 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: Among the four remaining candidates, two seats have already gone 161 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: to Labor, one to the Liberals, and one of the Greens. 162 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: Amid the Senate battle, Pauline Hanson has hit out at 163 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: Lamby's saying that she votes with the Greens or the 164 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: Labor Party and she doesn't have any idea about the policies. Nick, 165 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: I'll start with you. Jackie Lamby has provided me with 166 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: plenty of content, particularly for Left. He's losing it. But 167 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: will she be much of a loss. If she doesn't 168 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: make it. 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 6: It should be a loss to you're show reader, but 170 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 6: not to the Parliament in fact. And I don't know. 171 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 6: I don't know Pauline's I don't know Pauline's daughter at all, 172 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 6: but I just take it that if she's a chip 173 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 6: off the old block, I think i'd rather up her. 174 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: It's nice to see Pauline Hanson. She's behaving like a 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 6: soccer mum, isn't she. She's sort of, you know, like 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 6: you go to these kick soccer games and the parents 177 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 6: are yelling from the touch line. It seems to me 178 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 6: what she's doing here. But good hon her, and good 179 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 6: on her daughter for having the courage to stand, and 180 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 6: good on the Tasmanian people for recognizing somebody who will 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 6: really represent their interests as opposed to somebody who votes 182 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 6: with labor Green's whoever, and just looks always rather wild 183 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 6: and angry. 184 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: And makes some of the most demented comments I have heard. 185 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 3: Remember when she wanted to lock up Elon Musk for 186 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: having free speech on X. I mean, incredible antics, Gary, 187 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: You've got to say about Tasmania though, I mean they're 188 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: an example of why the Senate is called unrepresentative swill 189 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: as Paul Keating said some years ago. 190 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he did say it, and I get what 191 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: he says. But look, that's the deal we've signed up. 192 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Our constitution says first states, the six first ones under 193 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: the constitution all got twelve senators. Well originally it was ten. 194 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: So you know, I also would quote what Graham Richardson observed, 195 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and I'm sure I'm not misreading or misrepresenting Richo. He 196 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: was concerned when Labor brought in extra senators for each 197 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: state by increasing the size of the House of Representatives 198 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four. He said, we're going to rule 199 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: the day. We're going to end up with some crazy 200 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: people in the Senate. Now you know, make of that, 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: which I like, but we're going to end up with 202 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: a few interesting results. And so one of the best 203 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: things that could be done, if we were serious about 204 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: what was good for Australia is to actually reform the parliament. 205 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Fewer members in the House, drive down the numbers in 206 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: the Senate, actually have fewer senators, and that way you 207 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: needed a bigger chunk of vote to get elected. You'd 208 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: be more mainstream automatically, and you wouldn't have some of 209 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: the kind of well entertaining for the readA Panahy show 210 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of contributions from some people in the Senate just 211 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: saying but look, I'm not rewriting the Electoral Act right now, 212 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: but if they want me to, I could bring in 213 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: first past the post voting, make it non compulsory voting. 214 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: These sorts of things I think are all part of 215 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the reform. But winners are never going to change the 216 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: system that got them across the line. 217 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, those last two suggestions I think are very sensible. Indeed, 218 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: first past the post and make it optional. Why should 219 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: you be forced to vote with the threat of a fine. 220 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: Now I want to bring to your attention a couple 221 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: of pieces in the Australian News paper and see where 222 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: you stand on this debate. Paul Kelly has argued in 223 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: his column that the Liberals must return to the Howard 224 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: concept of the broad church in order to win. He 225 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: writes that its revival is the only viable strategy because 226 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: it opens the lens wide. It is inclusive, It incorporates 227 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: both the liberal and conservative traditions. It offers a broad 228 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: basis for public policy and a welcoming window for a 229 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: wide range of Australians. It would open the party to 230 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: the country, not shut its doors. Nick, is it a 231 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: little bit naive? Naive? Hasn't the political landscape changed markedly 232 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: since those Howard years? You could argue one of the Liberals' 233 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: biggest issues is at an identity crisis, where they try 234 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: to be all things to all people. 235 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: I suppose I'm going to side with Paul on this. 236 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 6: The thing is, reader, we have a west is the system. 237 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 6: Westminster systems work a lot better when you have two 238 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 6: major parties and people join those parties with different views 239 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 6: and they argue that toss within them. I am all 240 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 6: for the broad Church, but on this condition that everybody 241 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: who wants to be in that broad church number one 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 6: has to subscribe to liberal values and number two has 243 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: to want the party to win the next election. Because 244 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 6: I sense there are people on the so called moderate 245 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 6: friends of the party who sometimes look to me as 246 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 6: if they don't want the party to win, and they'll 247 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 6: sabotage it at every opportunity. And that's what's going on 248 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 6: right at the moment over this, you know, this unseemly 249 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 6: battle over the leadership, which which you know, I mean, 250 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 6: just have that discussion respectfully behind closed doors, because the 251 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: longer this goes on, the more vicious it is, and 252 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 6: there's some horrible, horrible stuff being thrown around to Angus Taylor, 253 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 6: completely unwarranted. But as long as this goes on Rita, 254 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 6: the longer it'll be before the party ever has a 255 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 6: chance of getting back at it. And I personally support 256 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 6: the Liberal Party because I think they're better in government 257 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 6: than Labor, full stop, and I don't want to see 258 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 6: him in opposition a day longer than they have to be. 259 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: Well, you say you disagree with my take, but what 260 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: you're arguing for is I think some sense of uniformity 261 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: within the party. Obviously going to have people with different passions, 262 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: different points of view, but if they have to subscribe 263 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: to the Liberal position and they have to be disciplined 264 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: and loyal, then that is very different to the sort 265 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: of broad Church we have seen in recent years, where 266 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: there is the infighting, the moderates trying to get rid 267 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: of the Conservatives, the wide anting that's happened. And I've 268 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: got to say this piece by Janet Orbrickson in The 269 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: Australian is I think far more sensible advice. She argues 270 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: that without a firm foundation of values. A political party 271 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: is just a house of cards, and that instead of 272 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: the Liberal party running from the culture war, they need 273 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: to embrace them. She writes, everything is about culture. What 274 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: kind of country do you want to be? If liberals 275 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: don't start embracing that, explaining policies through the prism of 276 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: what kind of culture we want, they may as well 277 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: fold their tent and save donors a heck of a 278 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: lot of money. Gary, how do you see it? What 279 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: is the path forward for the liberals? How can they 280 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: become electable again after this catastrophic result. 281 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: They've got to stand for stuff, although fall for everything. 282 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: And look, I understand next point, and I also understand 283 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Paul Kelly's point. And in theory, the concept of the 284 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: broad church is okay. But my caveats are this, You've 285 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: got to have purpose, you've got to have passion, you 286 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: have vision, you've got to be authentic. And so they 287 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: can have a broad range of personalities, a broad range 288 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: of policies, positions, and I guess a broad range of 289 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: moderate to more conservative views exercise. But in the end 290 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: you've got to actually galvanize all of that for a purpose. 291 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: And the purpose has to be Australia and so the 292 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Liberal Party desperately needs that kind of strength of leadership. 293 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: When Sir Robert A. Mensis was around, the leadership was 294 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: against the extreme left, the communists. He took all of 295 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that on. I remember reading Jim Killen's first speech in 296 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: early nineteen fifty six. I wasn't around, but I read 297 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: it years later. You know where he was talking about 298 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: the fight between mainland China and Free China, Taiwan and China. 299 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: He was right onto the whole kind of threat of 300 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: the reds that were coming for us, the way that 301 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: society would change. John Howard equally also galvanized Australians for 302 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: a purpose. So a broad church got behind a leader, 303 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: and that's what we need. We need to have a 304 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: strength of leadership, authenticity, values based, to Janet Olbrigson's excellent point, 305 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: values based, and to own the australianisms associated with everything. 306 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Stop the world trying to interfere with us, Make Australia 307 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: for Australia, make it great again. Can I say that? 308 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do it. Why are we getting 309 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: so scared? Every first bit of criticism from the left. 310 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: Well, this seems to be the problem. They're so terrified 311 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: of some sort of media backlash, backlash from people who 312 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: will never back them in the activist class academia, and 313 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: they scared to actually have an authentic, principal, strong position 314 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: that is dramatically different to labor. And we saw that 315 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: at this election. We saw them go with this small 316 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: target strategy. It was a disaster. And yet you've got 317 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: all these hacks in the media telling them to do 318 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: more of that, to veer even more to the left, 319 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: to try to appeal to voters who are never going 320 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: to back them. Gentlemen, Gary Hartgrave Nicasia, thanks for your 321 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: time tonight, stilta karma Lefties losing at class. French President 322 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: Emmanuel mccron meets with Sirius Islamus President the brilliant Josh 323 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: Hammer joins me. Next, you're watching the Reader Panehy Show, 324 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: and it's time for left is losing it now. This 325 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 3: is just maddening. First, the heartbreaking story of two young 326 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 3: siblings missing in Nova Scotia for the better part of 327 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: a week. Canadian police are beginning to scale back search efforts. 328 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: They say there are low odds that children will still 329 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: be alive. But listen to how they start a press 330 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: conference into this tragic story with a inane land acknowledgment. 331 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: This is Canada. 332 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 8: First, I acknowledge that we are in mcmagi the traditional 333 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 8: and unsuited and sacral territory of the Migmah people. I 334 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 8: also recognize that African Nova Scotians are a distinct people 335 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 8: whose histories, legacies, and contributions have enriched that part of 336 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 8: Mcmagie known as Nova Scotia for over four hundred years. 337 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: Yep. Canada a country that has suffered enormous damage thanks 338 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: to the far left policies of the Trudeau government, and 339 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: they just voted for more of this same Let's look 340 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: at a couple celebrating Mark Carney's big win Canada. 341 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: You hit it. 342 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 9: You chose over hate, unity over. 343 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: Division Trump techno. 344 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 10: This is what democracy looks like. 345 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: Mark Kearney is the leader of Canada and what the 346 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: world needs right now, someone. 347 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 11: That's ready to stand strong against Trump and defend democracy. 348 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: Tonight, Canada sent a. 349 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 8: Message Tyranny doesn't win here, Fear doesn't win here, division 350 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 8: doesn't win here. 351 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 7: Now. 352 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: I've tried all weeks to save you from the dangerous, 353 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: weapon grade levels of cringe of this following interview a 354 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 3: podcast featuring Meghan Markel but alas we must all suffer together. 355 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: Here is Meghan talking to a woman called Jamie kern Limo, 356 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 3: who seems to be even more fake and insufferable than 357 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: the Duchess. 358 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 12: Very first question, because I think in friendship it's so important, 359 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 12: and I think so many people also have this question 360 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 12: for you, is. 361 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: You know, Meghan? How are you? And I'm okay, that's 362 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: so kind. 363 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: I am. 364 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 13: I'm better than okay. How are you? 365 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: I know? 366 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 12: You eyes make it about me today, which, by the way, 367 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 12: I just have to say, you are the most generous friend. 368 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 12: You show up for your friends. Today I just get 369 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 12: to talk about you. 370 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 3: Oh I'm excited about Yes, it really is that all 371 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: fool The whole hour long ordeal may have even been longer. 372 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: May have blacked out from smacking myself in the head. 373 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: How else are you supposed to deal with trip like this? 374 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 13: Oh my gosh. I work so hard, and I appreciate 375 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 13: what hard work looks like. I like working hard, and 376 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 13: I'm still working hard. Right the moment that everything sells out, 377 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 13: it doesn't mean that we're done. Yeah, it means we're 378 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 13: working on replenishment. And what are the next cues and 379 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 13: what's the next tranch of products and what's the timing 380 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 13: on that, and writing the newsletters and writing the social 381 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 13: media captions and making sure that all that appeels in 382 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 13: line and what's the cadence of it, and what's the 383 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 13: photography that we want to do and what do I 384 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 13: want to wear for those shoots, while also editing all 385 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 13: the time coded notes for season two of With Love Meghan, 386 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 13: and then being an edits for the podcast and making 387 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 13: and being a mom and a wife and a friend. 388 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 13: Those are all jobs. 389 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Meghan wants you to know that she's so busy. 390 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: She's got no staff, She's out there writing the social 391 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: media captions herself, so so busy. And don't forget she's 392 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: a princess too, and Harry is slaying dragons to rescue her. 393 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 13: You know what we've built. We've built a beautiful life 394 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 13: and we have two healthy, beautiful children. And you know, 395 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 13: I always think about it like the end of Super 396 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 13: Mario Brothers, when you get to the final final level, 397 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 13: what's the goal? And Super Mario they're like, slay the 398 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 13: dragon and save the princess. I'm like, that's my husband 399 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 13: who is. 400 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: Harry, rescuing her from the family she abandoned before making 401 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: him abandon his. But don't feel too sorry for Prince Harry. 402 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: This is a middle aged man, after all, is about forty, 403 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: chose to embarrass his family, brought tons of grief to 404 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: the ailing grandmother who supported him throughout his life, Queen 405 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: Elizabeth iiO in her final days, and he now wants 406 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: to rewrite history. 407 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 6: You accuse members of your family of racism. You don't 408 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 6: even know well. 409 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 9: The British press said that, right, I did Megan never 410 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 9: mention the races? 411 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: She said there were troubling comments about about her skin color? 412 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: Right? Does he think we've forgotten this diabolical travesty? 413 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 13: Concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be 414 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 13: when he's born. 415 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: What who is having that conversation? There is a conversation 416 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 3: to hold up? 417 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 13: There are several conversations. 418 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 14: There's a conversation with you with Harry about how dark 419 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 14: your baby is going to be. 420 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: Now it's time for some miss Andrew. Here is a 421 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: young lass who dreams of the world without men. 422 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 7: And are not going to like me for saying this, 423 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 7: But you know what, I don't care America. I think 424 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 7: it's time we form a state where only women can live. 425 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: No men allows. 426 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 7: It's an estrogen field utopia where we can all finally 427 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 7: live in peace. 428 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: Oh, that sounds pretty boring to men. I'm not sure 429 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: which ladies are going to sign up to do these 430 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: very necessary jobs. Oh, I think we need to see 431 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: more of this oil reg work for our education purposes. 432 00:23:38,440 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: Of course. Now you may recall our favorite lefty losing 433 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 3: at Boston City councilor Tanny Anderson. If you don't remember her, 434 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: let's have a look at her previous work. People are 435 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: not innocent until proven guilty. People are guilty first. People 436 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: are crucified. 437 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: People are lynched, Same old tricks, same masters, though, fight. 438 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: Don't fight. What do I have to do in the 439 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: city council in. 440 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: Order to get respect as a black woman. I'm not 441 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: afraid of anybody here. 442 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: Well, she's off to prison, folks. She's pled guilty to 443 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 3: federal corruption charges, but remarkably, she hasn't resigned as a counselor. 444 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: While she reflects on her. 445 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 11: Pain tonight, Boston City Councilor Tanya Fernandez Henderson says she 446 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 11: loves her constituents and isn't sure when she'll resign. 447 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: WBC's Julia McDonald has the latest on the saga that 448 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: has rock City Hall to make I love you, I 449 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: Love you dearly. 450 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 10: Outside of federal court Monday, after pleading guilty to corruption charges, 451 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 10: Boston City council or Tanya Fernandez Anderson said she's reflecting 452 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 10: on her faith and practicing gratitude for the paint. 453 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and 454 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: Article three Projects Senior Council Josh Hamma. Josh. She wielded 455 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: her official powers for her own financial gain. She was divisive, 456 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: She was a race faiting politician, really the worst of 457 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: the modern left. 458 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like one of those or Willian Frankenstein like concoctions, right, 459 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 9: I mean it's all like the absolute worst ingredients producing 460 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 9: this one particularly iniquitous and just genuinely horrific public official. 461 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 9: I mean, this really does have all the various ingredients. 462 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 9: I mean, someone who is wielding Hunter biden Sq corruption, 463 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 9: but doing it through official power, not even under kind 464 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 9: of the auspices of your parents, as Hunter Biden was 465 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 9: doing and when he was trafficking buying family influence. She's 466 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 9: literally just wielding power there, and she plucked guilty. I 467 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 9: have no idea what her particular argument is. I have 468 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 9: a sneaking suspicion as to why she thinks that she 469 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 9: can get away with it, especially in a very blue 470 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 9: city like Boston, Massachusetts. You know, I mean, she's she's ranking, 471 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 9: based on what I can see here on this clip read, 472 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 9: she's ranking pretty high in the intersectional dei totem pole. 473 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 9: So I suspect that the good liberals at Harvard University 474 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 9: and MIT and all the various other dens of Marxist 475 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 9: iniquity there in Boston, Massachusetts are probably going to support 476 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 9: here through thick and thin there. That's probably why she 477 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 9: can get away with it there. But it really is 478 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 9: just the perfect encapsulation of all that is wrong with 479 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 9: the contemporary American left, isn't it. 480 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: Let's go to New York now sanctuary city and other 481 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: sanctuary city, and it's a more gang of violence. This 482 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: time we've had illegal immigrant, some very young ones, at 483 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: targeting police offices. 484 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 6: Well, new video out of New York City tonight of 485 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 6: teenage Venezuelan and migrants alleged to be trend de Ragua 486 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 6: gang members attacking two NYPD officers. 487 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: In Times Josh the officers were attacked while trying to 488 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: break up a wolf pack star robbery. Tell me about 489 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: these offenders, this sort of violence that we're saying. Some 490 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: of the members of this gang at Tinage just somewhere 491 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: as young as. 492 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 9: Twelve, So Trendy or Augula. Just so everyone is aware, 493 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 9: this is the Venezuelan gang. They are on the same 494 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 9: level as MS thirteen is among the most absolutely vicious 495 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 9: transnational criminal gangs in the entire Western hemisphere. MS thirteen 496 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 9: has his origins in El Salvador, and trendyar Augua has 497 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 9: his origins in Venezuela. So this is the very gang 498 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 9: actually that Donald Trump made a lot of headlines a 499 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 9: couple months ago for for invoking the eighteenth century Alien 500 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 9: Enemies Acts, this kind of older statute, which will allow 501 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 9: him in theory, if he was not facing an unprecedented 502 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 9: judicial insurrection. In theory, invoking the statute would allow him 503 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 9: to expedite these highly necessary deportations. So the point, rita 504 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 9: is that have Donald Trump and his and his DHS, 505 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 9: his Ice, Tom Home and the borders are Christy Noah 506 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 9: at d if they have been able to do their job, 507 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 9: if these Article three Black robed oracle judicial tyrants had 508 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 9: allowed the executive branch to actually enforce this nation's immigration law. 509 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 9: I think it's entirely possible that that footage never would 510 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 9: have existed. These people, It's entirely possible they never would 511 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 9: have been. In fact, it's quite likely that they would 512 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 9: never have been in this country in the first place. 513 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 8: There. 514 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 9: But unfortunately, when it comes to a city like New 515 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 9: York City, and I'm from the New York area, most 516 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 9: of my family still lives in the area there, this 517 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 9: is unfortunately run of the mill here in Los Angeles, 518 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 9: San Francisco, New York, Washington, Boston, which we were just 519 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 9: talking about. This is run of the mill stuff in 520 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 9: blue city America. The good news someone like, as someone 521 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 9: who lives in Florida, I can speak to this. The 522 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 9: good news that migration trends in America are away from 523 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 9: blue city left wing hell holes like New York City 524 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 9: and Los Angeles. People are flocking to cities like Dallas 525 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 9: Fort Worth, Texas, like Miami, Florida, South Florida there, and 526 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 9: you know, og, I wonder why. It's definitely partially I 527 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 9: would say for footage just like this. 528 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely Now you mentioned the term judicial insurrection there. I 529 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: like that. I haven't heard that before. But we do 530 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: have a constitutional crisis, and it's not emanating from the 531 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: White House. It is from these activist judges who think 532 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: that can you surp the power of the president, you 533 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: surp the democratic process, the will of the American people. 534 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: How is that traveling? Where are we with that? Well read? 535 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 9: I'm glad you liked the term. I'm pretty sure that 536 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 9: I was one who actually coined it. So I'm quite 537 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 9: a hading myself with the term digital insurrection. It's actually caught 538 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 9: on a little bit here in American media, but it 539 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 9: really is pretty unprecedent. I mean, Donald Trump during his 540 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 9: first four years as president from twenty seventeen to twenty 541 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 9: twenty one, he faced sixty five so called niche wine injunctions, 542 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 9: which by the way, is more than the first forty 543 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 9: four presidents combined. And there was a case in twenty 544 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 9: eighteen called Trump versus Trump versus Hawaii, the so called 545 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 9: travel band case. Justice Clarence Thomas very presciently said in 546 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 9: any concurring opinion, he said, you know what, unless this 547 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 9: just dies down off it's on a cord, We're going 548 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 9: to have to confront this sooner rather than later. This 549 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 9: issue of the so called Lower cour and niche Y injunctions. 550 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 9: That was seven years ago and here we are and 551 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 9: it's still just raging like wildfire. So the good news, potentially, 552 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 9: potentially is that next week, on Thursday, there is a 553 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 9: birthright citizenship oral argument with the US Supreme Court. But 554 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 9: they're not actually going to be arguing the fourteen Amendment 555 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 9: merits of birthright citizenship. Rather, this is going to be 556 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 9: an argument about the scope of the injunction power of 557 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 9: the federal course. This is actually a really golden opportunity 558 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 9: if the justices actually wanted to do so, to define 559 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 9: what the judicial power in our constitutional order means and 560 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 9: what it does not mean. I'm cautiously optimistic they will 561 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 9: not let that opportunity go to waste there, But as 562 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 9: with all things judicial branch related RIDA, I can only 563 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 9: be cautiously optimistic. I've just been burned too many times 564 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 9: before to be just particularly gung ho about it either. 565 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: Now let's go back to Times Square and a new 566 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: piece of public art has been unveiled and it's pretty underwhelming. 567 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: I've got to say I could use stronger language. Yah 568 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: tell me The reason isn't behind directing this twelve foot 569 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: statue of a fictionalized mildly obese black woman in Times Squares. 570 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: It's not exactly a stunning piece of art the craftsmanship there. 571 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: It ain't Michelangelo's David, that's for sure. Yeah. 572 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, it really is quite a long way from Michelangelo, 573 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 9: isn't it. Look, I mean, this is the whole body 574 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 9: positivity movement, right, I mean, I mean this is kind 575 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 9: of the whole notion of just trying to exalt people 576 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 9: who just kind of just just go with the diet 577 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 9: and they don't exercise, and just trying to make it 578 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 9: seem like that. Oh, you know, we've discriminated against obese 579 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 9: people for so long by having all these flashy ads 580 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 9: with the people who are rail thin there, and you're 581 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 9: encouraging all these people to be anarext I mean, you 582 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 9: know that's the argument there. But in reality, in reality, 583 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 9: we want people to be healthy. I mean, last night, Chah, 584 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 9: that's the whole Maha make America Healthy Again RFT Junior platform. 585 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 9: We don't want to be the most obese country in 586 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 9: the world, at least I don't. I don't want America 587 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 9: to be the most obese country in the world. But unfortunately, 588 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 9: you know, pr stunts like this when you are just 589 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 9: exalting morbidity, when you are exalting obesity there, I mean, 590 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 9: what do you think is gonna happen there? Frankly, this 591 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 9: seems to me to be in fairly direct response actually 592 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 9: to the whole RFK Junior Maha phenomenon. 593 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: There. 594 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 9: They're basically saying, Okay, you know what I mean, are 595 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 9: RFK is going to do this in DC when it 596 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 9: comes to some vaccine stuff, to food dies all of 597 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 9: that there, But you know what, we're going to double 598 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 9: down on the notion that it's actually okay to be overweight. 599 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 9: The problem, among other things, is that when you exalt 600 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 9: obesity in this country there you are straining the healthcare system, 601 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 9: and America's healthcare system or entitlement programs Medicare, it's all 602 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 9: going bankrupt. So, even if you don't particularly care about health, 603 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 9: which you should as a pure fiscal matter, encouraging this 604 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 9: sort of stuff it's not a good. 605 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: Idea, now I'm with you there, And just esthetically, it's 606 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 3: not a beautiful piece of work. I think anything at 607 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 3: time you erect art somewhere, particularly something that's a twelve 608 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: foot structure. It has to have some beauty about it. 609 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: I think we've kind of lost track of that. And 610 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: they used to make beautiful buildings, they make beautiful public 611 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: pieces of art, and now we've got things like that. Now, 612 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: let's talk about the Trump administration's tariff policy, particularly the 613 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: trade war with China. It's working as intended in driving 614 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: down demand for Chinese made products. Imports from China have 615 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: dropped dramatically. Josh, what's that going to mean? Now We're 616 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: going to see shortages, big price hikes. Are you seeing 617 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: some of those short term impacts? And how far are 618 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: we from getting some details about trade deals? The administration 619 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: has been touting that they're not far away. 620 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 9: Well, I've not personally noticed any retail price hikes yet, 621 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 9: but I think a lot of Americans are starting to 622 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 9: potentially gear themselves for exactly that sort of thing. In fact, 623 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 9: if you look at the international ports they're shipping, it 624 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 9: really plummeted after the tariffs were announced, unsurprisingly in mid 625 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 9: to late April. But if we actually go back to 626 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 9: the March data, it was actually, if I call proptly, 627 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 9: there was a pretty large increase actually in imports including 628 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 9: from China, because a lot of people were expecting this 629 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 9: tariff role out there. So look, we'll see there definitely 630 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 9: could be a short term price effect. The good news, 631 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 9: as you said, is that Scott bess and to our 632 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 9: Treasury secretary, is currently meeting this week with his Chinese counterparts. 633 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 9: We'll see what happens. Look, China is ultimately more dependent 634 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 9: on the United States than the United States is on China. 635 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 9: It would be a tough economic decoupling. I'm not suggesting 636 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 9: this is the kind of thing that can easily happen. 637 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 9: I'm frankly not suggesting that this is the kind of 638 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 9: thing that could happen in the short to near term 639 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 9: at all. Frankly, But if America can ultimately become less 640 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 9: dependent on its chief art geopolitical rival, a country that 641 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 9: literally flies spy balloons across our continent, the country that 642 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 9: spies on us through everything from TikTok to Confucius institutes, 643 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 9: the campus, if we can get less dependent on them, 644 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 9: that is a good thing. And if we can reasure 645 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 9: more jobs in the process, that's a doubly good thing. 646 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: Franklin, Now to another example of America First policies from 647 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: the Trump administration. This one has some Democrats support. It's 648 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: good to see senat Is Josh Hawley and Peter Welch 649 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: are producing legislation to force drug companies not to charge 650 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: high prices in the US than the international average. This 651 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: war against big farmer, it's extending well beyond RFK Junior. 652 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 9: Josh, Yeah, this has become this is rapidly become a 653 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 9: very aggressive part I think of the new Republican parties platform. 654 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 9: But as you mentioned, this is a bipartisan piece of legislation. 655 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 9: Cener Holly and Senator Welch, who's a pretty liberal center 656 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 9: from the state of Remands. Josh Holly, who personally is 657 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 9: one of my absolute favorite senators. I'm a big fan 658 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 9: of his. He has very much been the tip of 659 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 9: the sphere of a lot more actually of these more 660 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 9: shall we say, pop list inclined economic styles of bill 661 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 9: legislation that he's had previously previous legislation when it comes 662 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 9: to trying to cap credit card fees, a lot of 663 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 9: stuff that your typical kind of nineteen eighties nostalgia Republican 664 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 9: wouldn't necessarily dream of there. But this is a new 665 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 9: breed of Republican. I mean the entire Donald Trump Maga 666 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 9: Maha coalition. There. Yeah, it's partially about taking on big 667 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 9: pharma for sure, and big Pharma I think it has 668 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 9: a lot of bipartis and enemies across the entire spectrum 669 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 9: these days in Washington, d C. But it's also just 670 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 9: partially about this kind of more economically nationalists, more populars 671 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 9: style of economic stake craft as well. The tariff policy 672 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 9: certainly fits into that as well. There Again, these are 673 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 9: the kind of things that the Republican Party prior to 674 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 9: Donald Trump's to send down the gilded escalator of Trump 675 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 9: Tower in twenty fifteen, Never in a million years we 676 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 9: would dreaming, I mean, thinking back to like the twenty 677 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 9: twelve Mitt Romney Paul Ryan platform, the notion of punitive 678 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 9: tariffs on other countries, the notion of trying to cap 679 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 9: prescription drug prices. I mean, it would have been a 680 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 9: totally foreign exercise there. But this is a very very 681 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 9: different Republican Party in the year twenty twenty five. 682 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: Very different than neo cons are gone. It's a new GOP, 683 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: it certainly is. But before you go, I just want 684 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 3: to quickly ask you about French President Emmanuel mccron. He 685 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 3: hosted the Syrian leader I'med al Shara, and earlier today 686 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: he called on the US and the European Union to 687 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: lift sanctions against Syria. Josh, this character, al Shara is 688 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 3: an Islamist, he is a former member of al Qaeda. 689 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: He's got supporters right now targeting religious minorities in Syria. 690 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 3: Should he be treated like some dignitary here? 691 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 9: This is disgusting, I mean, this is just utterly appalling. 692 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 9: And unfortunately Emmanuel Macron is not the only person who 693 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 9: is treating this al Qaeda jihadi in a suit as 694 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 9: some sort of legitimate leader. I mean, you actually had 695 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 9: multiple US congressmen who became the first to fly to 696 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 9: Damascus to meet with this Islamist thug about a week 697 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 9: and a half, two weeks ago or so. So this 698 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 9: is rapidly becoming a normalized situation that simply should not 699 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 9: be normalized because, among the other things, what you alluded 700 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 9: to is totally crap. There's actually been there have been 701 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 9: recent massacres. The media is really not reporting this at all. 702 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 9: There have been recent massacres of the Syrian Druze population. 703 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 9: It's horrific stuff there. Because the current government in Damascus 704 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 9: is an Islamist government there. This guy puts on a suit, 705 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 9: he talks like he's a Harvard Dei professor, talking about 706 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 9: the beauty of diversity there. When it's when it comes 707 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 9: to two different types. Assunni Shia Drew's Christians so warth there. 708 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 9: He is not a Westerner. This Cau's an Islamist. He 709 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 9: was literally a purpatetic Al Qaeda Jihati, going from country 710 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 9: to country throughout the Middle East, fighting for various offshoots 711 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 9: of al Qaeda, from the original one to al Nusra 712 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 9: to HRT And now Emmanuel McCrone is talking about why. 713 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 9: I literally don't get it there. The only thing I 714 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 9: can think of is that Macron in France they have 715 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 9: very unique They have a very unique relationship with Lebanon 716 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 9: of course there and Syria. The current government there is 717 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 9: very cozy with Hasbola, which still has a major presence 718 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 9: in Loveanon there. So maybe that maybe that's that's what's 719 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 9: going on here. But it's really quite appalling and dare 720 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 9: I say even outright disgusting. 721 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time tonight. 722 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: Thank you still to come. Former First Lady Michelle Obama 723 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: reveals that she's receiving therapy. Kinsey Schofield joins me next 724 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back, Joining Me now celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey 725 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: Schofield Kinsey Former First Lady Michelle Obama has revealed that 726 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: she's now in therapy in a tell All interview with Jay. 727 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 14: Shetty, I believe in couples therapy. I believe I believe 728 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 14: in it all. Whatever works for you. And at this 729 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 14: you know, phase of my life, I'm in therapy right 730 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 14: now because I'm transitioning. 731 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 3: You know, I'm sixty years old. 732 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 14: I finished a really hard thing in my life with 733 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 14: my family intact, I'm an empty nester. My girls are in, 734 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 14: you know, they've been launched. 735 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: I didn't know we had to have therapy for each 736 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: stage of life at Kinsey, what else can you tell 737 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: me about this interview? 738 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 11: I can tell you that Joan Rivers would have had 739 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 11: a field day with a transitioning clip. 740 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: Okay. 741 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 11: What I can tell you is that the most captivating 742 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 11: people are those. 743 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: Who leave room for curiosity. 744 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 11: You know, mystery invites intrigue and over sharing, demands attention 745 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 11: without earning it. 746 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 3: And no matter how. 747 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 11: Many headlines she gets with some of these random revelations, 748 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 11: whether it's a fight with Barack. It does not help 749 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 11: her podcast on the charts. She's a commercial flop so far, 750 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 11: and that's why you're seeing her do all of these interviews. 751 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, people are really 752 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,479 Speaker 11: not interested in what she has to say. 753 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 3: Now. I think the last election campaign and certainly since 754 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 3: the launch of this filing podcast past, it's really diminished 755 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: her standing and revealed that she's not as wildly popular 756 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 3: as the media told us she was for years. Now, 757 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 3: let's talk about Anna Winter, the editor in chief of 758 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 3: Vogue and chair of the Met Gala. She's snubb singer 759 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 3: songwriter Nicole Scherzinger, leaving her out of the sea every 760 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: look from the Met Gala twenty twenty five red carpet 761 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 3: last night in the photo collection there. This comes after 762 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: the singer caused a bit of an uproar because she 763 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: expressed her approval of Russell Brand's MAGA styled Make Jesus 764 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: First Again hat. So it was just a hat that 765 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: was celebrating Jesus, but apparently that is also something that 766 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 3: is unacceptable among the left. At the moment, Kinsey, the 767 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 3: Met Gala has become pretty lame, these days, is Anna 768 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: Winter a big part of why it's lost its luster. 769 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 3: It's become a subject of mockery rather than something to admire. 770 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 11: I mean, she had a stain on her dress, This 771 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 11: woman who is apparently everyone is terrified of in the 772 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 11: fashion industry, what in turn lost their head this week? 773 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 3: Is what I want to know. 774 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think Anna Wintour, along with the 775 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 11: met Gala, is way past their cell by date. You know, 776 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 11: it's pretentious, it lacks creativity, and I don't You're seeing 777 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 11: all the attendees inside taking selfies, which is against the rules, 778 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 11: like they're teenagers at prom. Even the celebrities have lost 779 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 11: respect for her. I think it is over. It is 780 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 11: not the it's not the Princess Diana event that it 781 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 11: used to be. 782 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 3: Now. It used to be something that really turned heads. 783 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 3: Everyone wanted to say what the fashions were, everyone wanted 784 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 3: to say who was attending. But these days you just 785 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: look at it and cringe. Eighty percent of it, and 786 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 3: the big names don't seem to be going the way 787 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: they were. There were a lot of people there where 788 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 3: I had no idea who they were. They were like 789 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 3: contestants on Big Brother that you have to Google to 790 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: see which celebrity they are. Now, this story with Bill Belichick, 791 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: I've got to say, I can't get enough of it. 792 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 3: This is a football coach, a legend of the game. 793 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: He's reportedly sidelined his twenty four year old girlfriend, Jordan 794 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 3: Hudson after that humiliating CBS interview where she kept interrupting 795 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: his answers. Now, Bill's seventy three. We're talking about a 796 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 3: forty nine year age gap here. He's looking to hire 797 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 3: a PR specialist, Kinsey, to take over from Hudson, who's 798 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: been acting as his PR manager. Tell me more about 799 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: this relationship. I mean, I'm hearing, I'm hearing comparisons with 800 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 3: Jill Biden, doctor Jill saying that might have some elder 801 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 3: abuse happening here. That's hilarious. 802 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 11: Okay, Well, I didn't know this the last time I 803 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 11: talked to you, but I did find out. 804 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 3: They met on a plane. 805 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 11: She was reading a book and he started talking to 806 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 11: her about that book. 807 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 3: So that's how they met. But here's some of the 808 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 3: good gossip. 809 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 11: He was having a docuseries built around him and this 810 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 11: new team he's coaching, this college team. Jordan came in 811 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 11: with a list of demands wanted to be heavily involved. 812 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 11: Within two days of production, they killed this entire show. 813 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: She was too much for them. 814 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 11: And then we find out she actually inserted herself in 815 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 11: the super Bowl commercial, the Dunkin Donut super Bowl commercial. 816 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 11: They reached out to her to try to get to 817 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 11: Bill and she wormed her way into the commercial as well. 818 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 3: So she is drama. Oh, drama with a capital day. 819 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 3: My god, yeah, she's But the whole thing is enthralling 820 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: and slightly creepy. I want to ply this enthrolling clip 821 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 3: of actually enthralling is the wrong word for this. It's 822 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: more hilarious than enthralling. It's adorable. It's Prince Louis making 823 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 3: fun of his big brother, Prince George during victory in 824 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 3: Europe Day commemorations in London. It's just adorable, the whole thing, 825 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 3: the mockery, the death set from the future King there. 826 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 3: We love George, but if I could make Prince Louis 827 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 3: King tomorrow, I would Kinsey Louis has a way of 828 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: stealing the show. Tell me about this royal unity that 829 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 3: we saw at this event. We had King Charles there, 830 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: the rest of the royal family all there, to mark 831 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 3: the eightieth anniversary of Victory in Europe Day, and it's 832 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 3: been interpreted as a power move to send a clear 833 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: message to Prince Harry and Megan Markle that the family 834 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 3: is united. 835 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think that they even I don't even 836 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 11: think Prince Harry's on their radar, quite honestly. And that's 837 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 11: what I'm hearing. That they gave up on him a 838 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 11: long time ago. But seeing you know, the four generations 839 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 11: on the balcony, the Duke of Kent, that the King 840 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 11: and the Queen and Prince Louis with his without his teeth, 841 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 11: it did send a strong message that this family is 842 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 11: this family has a long way to go, and that 843 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 11: they love each other and that they love their country. 844 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 3: And I actually have heard, here's. 845 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 11: A little piece of information I haven't told anybody yet, 846 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 11: that Prince Harry is obsessed with this footage. Will watch 847 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 11: the footage from the day, will watch to see what 848 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 11: they look like on the balcony. Clearly he misses this 849 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 11: life and they have moved on. 850 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 3: I think he has some regrets, though he may not 851 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: admit it to himself. Off, before you go, this footage 852 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 3: of Kanie a West walking out on an interview with 853 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 3: PS Morgan has gone viral, understandably, So what do you 854 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 3: talk about? 855 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 2: It's thirty Okay, now you're not taking accountability or response, 856 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: you know, of course, I no, no, sir. This is 857 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: what you get for now. We can we can circle 858 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 2: back when you can count. 859 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Kinsey, we can't be shocked anymore, can we. 860 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 11: You know, Kanye once said he's more more influential than Picasso, 861 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 11: and honestly, his public breakdowns might be his most abstract 862 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 11: work yet. 863 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield, thank you so much for your time, and 864 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 3: that's all the time I've got. I'll see you at 865 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: nine pm tomorrow night for Left, He's losing it up. 866 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 3: Next it's Newsnight. 867 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 8: S