WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 29 April 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.400 My This is Paul Burray to ask me an effect 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.039 with Peter Dudhead Gay and welcome to a special edition 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.440 of Paul Murray Live. An opportunity for you to spend 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:11.960 an hour with the man who would like to be 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.040 the next Prime minister. Yes, minions of people have already voted, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.680 but far more still yet to make the decision and 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.759 yet to walk into a polling booth. Peter Dutton joins 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:22.080 us in the man Cave here this evening. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:23.560 Peter. It love you to see you, Glad to see 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:24.680 you too. Thank you. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.160 Now, as you know, we started the campaign in your 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.560 home electorate in Dixon. What I wanted was not questions 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.400 from me, but questions from as many people who watch 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.040 the show as possible in your local electorate. The People's 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.959 Forum was a great example to be able to sit 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.440 there opposite a prime minister. But that's one hundred people 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.239 in a room. This is questions from all over the 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.360 country and I want people to be able to see 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:49.400 see how you respond, but also to give you a 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.480 little bit of time to answer questions that people are 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.960 sincerely invested in. Put simply, it is about them, not me. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.880 So let's start off. We're going to have a collection 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.600 of questions around the country, including let's start that Allan, 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.760 who's going to be joining us live now from the 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.399 mighty Gold Coast in Queensland. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.639 Alan, good evening to you mate. What is your question 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:07.400 for Peter. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.320 Dat Good evening, Paul and mister Dutton. Thanks for joining 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:12.240 Paul Murray live. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:13.559 Thank you all. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.080 Labor is spending lot like I'll do that again. Labor 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.360 is spending like kids in a candy store, building up 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:22.080 massive debt. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:31.560 I have this cheeky blue cap. Well, good man, how 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:32.280 about's got it go? 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.600 Saying Elbow's debt got to go to add fire to 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:40.520 the coalition sha A campaign. Most importantly, this escalating debt 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.959 should be paid off as soon as possible. My question 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.800 is what is your plan to stop our grandkids inheriting 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:48.960 a budget black hole? 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:51.960 Well, well, and it's a it's a great question. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.520 Firstly, you know these figures, but this government spent an 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.080 extra four hundred and twenty five billion dollars, which means 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.400 that they're the biggest spending government in four decades now. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.080 When that last happened, labor thrust us into recession and 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.760 as we're seeing with the ratings Agency now they're warning 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.600 that this government spending is going to result in the 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.840 prospect of a downgrade of our credit rating, which of 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.400 course means that we pay more for that one point 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.920 two trullion dollars worth of labor debt, and the interest 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:21.720 payments go up, and it means you have less to 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.640 spend on the essentials and on defense and other areas 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.880 of expenditure. Which said that, we, as John Howard did, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:36.360 want to look at the budget, identify where the for 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.320 tax players who are paying more than ever in tax 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.840 and working harder than ever, where the money is not 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.120 being spent appropriately in the budget, where we can find savings. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.560 We've said, in relation to the public service, they've increased 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.920 the size of the public service at a rate three 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.040 times that of Kevin. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:52.880 Rud and Julia Gillard. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.560 So there are ways in which we can identify the 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.840 savings and get us back to balanced budget, which is 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.359 what a liberal governor always does, add it to the 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.120 economy more effectively, and that'll allow us to get us 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.760 back into balance, get us into surplus and then start 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.000 to pay down labour's debt. But it's not going to 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.079 happen overnight, as you know, John Howard, inherited ninety six 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.000 billion dollars worth of debt in ninety ninety six, and 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.320 you've now got over a trillion. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.320 Dollars worth of labor debt. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.040 And it'll take time to grow the economy to make 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.120 sure that we can keep the essential services running. And 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.800 we've committed to all of that expenditure. But your point 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.600 is well made, but labor will always tax and spend. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.560 Good only Halan, thank you, mate. Guess the ground for 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:33.919 me in the. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.520 Gold Coast, beautiful part of Australia. Sophia has a question 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.000 for you as well. Hurst comes from moss Vale in 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:41.080 New South Wales. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:41.840 Let's have a look. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.160 My name is Sophia Flight and I'm a psychologist student 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.880 from mos Val. The question I would like to ask 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.320 mister Peter Dunn is during the budget reply you announced 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.400 a four hundred million dollar investment into youth mental health 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.040 services aside from the National Center for Excellence in Youth 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.640 Mental Health and the Medical Research Fund, how are you 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.080 planning on expanding treatment access to youth mental health across 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:05.480 the nation? 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.680 Sophia thank you very much for your question. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.760 Look, I think it's an incredibly important discussion and as 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.359 you identified, we very early on announced additional funding for 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.880 mental health services. We need to make sure that we 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.119 can get people the support that they require. The government 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.040 fairly early on cutback. In fact, they cut in half 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.400 the number of psychology sessions that people with complex needs 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.800 could access from twenty back to ten. Services we've adounced 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.360 and we did it again fairly early on. So we've 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.120 already announced this, but we'll increase the services back to 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.640 twenty and that will provide younger people, but older people 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.840 as well with the clinical support that they require. It 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.120 means that we can provide support to young people, as 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.719 you point out, through the Headspace sites and through the 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.400 Medical Research Future Fund bringing money into research, which is 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:03.880 incredibly important, not just the primary care services but also 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:09.000 the support around research. I think that's something that we've 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.720 believed in, as you know, for a long time, and 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.880 is a really significant benefit to try to find new 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.839 care models, to try and find ways in which you 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.360 can provide support. A lot of young people as well 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.040 are really being harmed online, and we've led the call 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.560 in relation to making sure that the media companies are 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.840 careful in the amount of harmful content that our kids 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.360 are viewing online and all of that. I think adds 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.320 up to a much better picture than what the government's 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.279 offering in the run up to this election. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.880 The issue around mental health, use mental health. I know 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.680 that it's something that you've spoken about in budget and 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:47.000 reply spoken about it as a dad. Why is it 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.800 important as a matter of public policy for you? 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:55.080 It's important because I have a fundamental belief that particularly 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.520 children and adolescents should be able to live the best 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.240 life that they can. Paul A really sincerely, you know, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.360 put a lot of work into child protection over the 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.040 years and funded these trained center account of child exploitation 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.360 and similarly for kids with mental health issues as well 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.799 or health issues more generally. I think that's why general 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.480 practice is so important, and making sure that you can 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.360 form a relationship with a practice or with a doctor, 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.920 getting that early intervention and providing a pathway to better 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.760 health is essential, and otherwise kids are missing out on 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.880 the joy of childhood and they're being robbed of that. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.560 So from a values perspective, it's something that's very important 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:33.760 to me. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.640 Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where the 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.760 conversations in their own lives, the evidence that comes out 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.760 from a report, the conversations that we have with police 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.640 or medical professionals. I often talk about I don't mean 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.400 this in a derogatory way. I say this as a 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.719 parent whose heart breaks for the generation that my little 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.440 girls are, you know, ten and seven. But it's like, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.440 sometimes the kids are not all right, and it's not 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.760 just about you know, old school kind of oh, you know, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.520 cement and harden up. There's something that we truly need 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.480 to deal with. It's not because there's something wrong with them. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.120 It's because clearly we know more about the way our 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.280 brains work than ever before, which means we've got to 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.800 help more than ever before. And you know, you've been 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.040 consistent since the very start of this term about people's 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.880 access to telehealth when it comes to your mental health, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.840 your ability if you can't leave home to be able 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.880 to talk to somebody, to advocate for things like the 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.000 kid's helpline. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.960 These are really vital things. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.720 I agree, And you know, my time as Health Minister 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.200 and the Bok building rate was about eighty four percent. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:34.360 It's now down to seventy seven. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.880 So it's harder to get in to see a doctor, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.800 people paying forty three dollars out of pocket on average. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.720 Now it's the case that people are not making doctor's 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.120 appointments because they can't afford the initial consult or, they 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.320 can't afford the follow. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:46.960 Up period a minute. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.200 That's the reality of the cost of living pressures in 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.360 people's lives. Over the last three years, whilst we talk 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.200 about thirty thousand small businesses closing, two hundred and seventy 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.480 two of them have been general practices because they face 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.880 the same input costs pressures that every other business does. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.640 So yes, and we've put more money into providing support 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:12.000 around research, and I really think that side of it 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.720 is incredibly important. As health mian As to we created 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.480 the twenty billion dollar Medical Research Future Fund and that's 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.440 been drawing down on the earnings to look at research 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.400 into kids cancers and brain cancers, et cetera, where I 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.120 think as a country we're underdone in terms of the 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.280 amount of money that we spend in research, particularly on 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.920 some of those difficult cancer types. And generally early intervention 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.520 can provide a better health outcome regardless of what the 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.360 condition might be, and that's why I think general practice 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.320 is incredibly important. But the government's got the scare campaign 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.640 out there as they always do around medicare, But the 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.439 reality is as people realize in their own lives, it's 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.840 harder to get into a doctor and it's more expensive 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:52.520 than it's ever been. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:52.840 Yeah. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.679 Absolutely, Look, you know we all know our own life circumstances. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.560 If you're paying attention to the reality of life versus 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.320 some of the stuff that appears in the media, well 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.120 then I think again the tenor of some of the 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.160 stuff that's been set in and around the election seems 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.199 pretty obvious about what is not true and what is 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.199 an obvious focus. Now, I'm not going to tell Australia 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.280 where our next guest comes from, but she's live right 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.120 now and Levina wants to talk about something sensitive and 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.400 that is of course domestic violence. Out of respect for 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.360 her and her circumstances, again, we're not saying where her 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.120 location is. But what's your question for Peter Dutton tonight 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.679 on this special version of Paul Murray Live. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:30.160 Levina. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.959 Thanks Paul, thanks for having me on. I think there's 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.960 a common theme that ALBO makes proposals, but that's all 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.319 they are. No houses are built. DV is at its 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:48.000 worst despite worded funding. How from your experienced perspective as a. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:52.760 Former prospective policeman, would your government help women, children and 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:58.080 men understand and support women escaping violence, and additionally, just 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:04.360 educate without ideology demonizing boys about healthier, respectful relationships. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:05.800 So how would you approach this. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.240 Well, Levina, thank you very much for talking to us 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.240 about what I think is one of the most important 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.400 topics we face as a country. We need to make 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.160 sure that in our own families, in our own lives, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:24.880 we're instilling those values into our own kids. I mean, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.600 in our own experience of raising our sons, we've always 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.240 instilled in them a very young age respect for their mother, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.640 for Kiralei, respect for their grandparents, for their aunts, for 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:40.200 their sister, and we've always been really consistent with that. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.640 And there are many families where that works and others 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.560 where it doesn't, even when you've passed that on to 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.960 your kids. I think one of the big concerns at 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.040 the moment that I've got is the financial pressure that 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.200 families are under and the fact that that can lead 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.200 to domestic violence. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:57.720 And it's not an excuse by any. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.040 Stretch of the imagination, but it's an indication of the 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.080 pressure that families are under, and in many circumstances, when 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.520 there's a separation, you've then got two households to run, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.560 so it becomes even more difficult. I think the family 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.040 court system is clunky, would be the polite way to 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.480 describe it, and I don't think in many cases it 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.640 works for either party. So we've announced additional funding in 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.199 relation to how we can streamline some of those services, 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.760 get matters out of the court and resolved as quickly 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.280 as possible. We need to provide support to police who 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.719 are responding. We were up in Cans just the other 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.800 day and whilst we were there speaking there were six 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.840 what they call Code two jobs which meant to domestic 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.640 violence jobs where it required lights and Sirohn response, so 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.600 pretty serious matters and that was just in that short 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:50.800 period of time. So the incidence continues to rise. There's 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.840 a lot of effort that we've put into reducing knife 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.319 crime and a lot of effort that we've put into, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.720 as I say, protecting young women online as well. So 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.560 I think there is it's a whole of government approach 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.559 that needs to be applied to it. But there's nothing 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.079 more confronting than going into a household, into a house, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.640 into a home where you know you've got a woman 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:15.400 being held down. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.360 On the floor and I can. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.800 Picture this as I tell this story at West End 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.760 in Brisbane many years ago as a police officer, and 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.560 this like just punching into his wife, his partner on 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.760 the ground, and you know, kids screaming and blood on 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.360 the walls and holes in the wall. It is just 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.600 their horrific circumstances. And as a police officer, you can 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.079 go to PARF a dozen to those events a night, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.080 and I'm absolutely passionate about making sure that we can 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.840 reduce that violence because I believe solemnly that somebody's home 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.320 is their sanctuary and you should be safe in your 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:51.760 own home and it shouldn't. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.200 Be a place of fear. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.640 So I'll do whatever I can to make sure that 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.160 we protect women and to reduce domestic violence and the 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:03.439 violence against men in some circumstances as well, which is 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:04.280 a part of the reality. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.480 Thank you, Levina, I really sincerely appreciate it. Just just 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.920 again to this question that Levina was asking as well 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:14.840 about educating men and conversations that blokes have to have. Now, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:21.839 I understand that these topics are fraught with difficulty, and 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.880 I say this because it applies to me and my mates, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.200 and I would assume it's yourself and your mates that 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.520 we would die for the women in our lives because 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:32.880 we loved them right. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.400 And anyone in anywhere was a threat. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.439 So this conversation about educating our boys is really important, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.760 and I think that in many ways it's the example 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.040 we set for our boys as much as sort of 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.719 public education is there as well. And again, I don't 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.959 want anyone to take this part of the conversation out 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.400 of context. It is a bigger, complicated one. But where 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.559 do you sit about that concept of how we bring 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:56.600 up the next generation? 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.200 No, well, I agree with that absolutely. I think the 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.080 standard you walk past is the standard that you accept. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.400 So it's within your friendship group, it's within your family setting, 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.200 it's within the environment. 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:11.800 That your children are exposed to. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:17.800 And I think that's absolutely essential and it's taken for 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.880 granted in many of our families because that's the way 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.160 that we were brought up, But in many circumstances that's 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.040 not the case. And I also think there's an element 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.720 of drug use that's involved now as well, just mind 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.840 altering drugs that are more prevalent now than when I 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.400 was a policeman. And you see some of the footage 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.800 on TV where you've got three or four police officers 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.560 trying to wrestle some guy to the ground who's not 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.720 that bigger bloke, who's as high as a kite and 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.840 just develops a strength. And when you put that person 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.120 into a domestic setting and something triggers a reaction or 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:58.000 there's a violent reaction, you see the sort of violence that. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.160 That abores all of us. So the past acceptance now 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.400 of so called. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.640 You know, drugs that are freely available and part of 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.840 a social set, I think that is a bigger influence 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.840 than what we realize in some of these domestic violence 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:14.560 matters as well. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.600 Well, and in New South Wales. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.760 I mean the stats and I talk about this a lot, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.880 which is that you know, it's about six point something 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.840 offices a day every day Monday, Tuesday, Christmas to Hate 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.320 Good Friday are assaulted when they go to work. And 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.239 part of that, of course is the attacks on paramedics, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.400 male and female emergency workers a little and that it 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.520 is a huge issue, and I'm really glad that it's 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.560 part of the national conversation and it has to be. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.000 It truly does have to be confronted, and of the 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.240 belief that you will Jason is now joining US. Jason 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.000 joins US now from North Adelaide in South Australia. Jason, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.440 We've got Peter. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:55.400 Duttonbild to prominstunity, especially in military supply chains, and currently 0:15:55.400 --> 0:16:00.720 with USD coupling from China for these resources has them, 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.840 but red and green tape stop us from opening these 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.960 minds all too often. So my question is what are 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.600 the hurdles currently in place from stopping Australia to take 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.720 this opportunity. What are the risks involved with an Alberanezy 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:20.200 bank government continuing and what would could the coalition government 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.960 do to advance this opportunity. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.760 Jason, thanks, thanks for the question. I think it's an 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.960 absolutely vital one. There's a huge opportunity for Australia to 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.960 increase the exports. We know a company like Rio Tinto 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:37.480 pays ten billion dollars a year in royalties and company taxes. 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.760 We don't fund hospitals and we don't fund policing, we 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:45.600 don't fund education, et cetera. Infrastructure that without that revenue. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.160 So there's an enormous opportunity for us to expand it. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.160 But when you speak to companies now, they're moving capital 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:55.000 out of Australia into Africa and into North America, into Asia, 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.080 and they just see Australia as a sovereign risk under 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.240 this government the time that it takes. For example, a 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.199 Northwest Shelf extension which tennya polibisk delayed the announcement of 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.920 that decision until after the election, till the thirty first 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.240 of May, which will tell West Australians that they're not 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.560 going to proceed with that project. The fact is that 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.560 that had been with the Cook state government for six years, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.439 a project that was well known and all of the 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.960 environmental considerations had taken place six years. It had been 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.840 with the Cook government for a decision. They said yes, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.080 gave it a tick of approval and then that triggers 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.440 a referral to the federal government and then their processes start. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.720 Why if you're a company looking at investing in a 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:39.960 project where you've got. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.000 Six or eight or twelve years delay. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.480 Why would you be holding capital at risk when you 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.119 could move into another country where you've got the ability 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.919 to get a return on your capital straight away. So 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.960 first point I'd make is that we need to condense timelines, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:58.960 and we've advised the WA government and the people of 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.840 Western Australia. More broadly, as a national policy, we get 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.160 to have the approval times for those projects. We're going 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.840 to defund the Environmental Defender's Office, which has been disgraced 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.560 in matters that they've joined in the Federal Court. The 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.000 Labor Party funded the Environmental Defender's Office. They can go 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.480 and take an action against a project even if approvals. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:21.160 Have been granted. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.639 And this is a Labor Party's way of saying that 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.800 we've got everything under control to try and stop mining projects. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.840 Nudge nudge, wink wink to green voters inner City Sydney, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.240 in Melbourne, but they're killing the economy. And to your 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.600 point about the defense supply chains and the assurances that 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.960 our partners need, the Americans are bending over backwards to 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.800 do more with Australia, and we should be doing more 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.639 in the guide of weapons space, in the autonomous vehicle space, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.800 and we have an abundance of these natural resources and 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:53.360 I think there are many ways in which we can 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.440 add value to the relationship. When we struck the deal 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.879 with the United States on ORCAS, it was always my 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.840 belief that we could add more to the overall output, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.600 the industrial capability and output in ucas, which would make 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:11.640 us a more valuable partner and not just a Mendican party. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.480 And we were just taking from the arrangement between the 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.320 US and the UK and our country. We've got an 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:24.600 enormous ip within intellectual property and capability within particularly the 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.639 communications space in this country, and that is really valued 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.600 by the Americans and others, and that all requires critical 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:37.280 minerals and investment into different components. At the moment, we've 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.640 got defense industry companies closing down in this country because 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.000 the governments ripped eighty billion dollars out of defense. And 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.880 our proposal, as you know, is to put twenty one 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.560 billion dollars more into defense over the next five years. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.400 If we do that, I think we've got a much 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.480 better chance of keeping our country safe but also being 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.320 a really good partner in ally to the United States, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.960 the United Kingdom, Canada and other countries. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.320 Good stuff more with Peter Dunne in the moment, ask 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.960 me anything tonight. The questions are all from you, a 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.439 little follow up from me here and there. But the 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.560 idea is we're getting to as many people around the 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.520 country as possible, and you're spending an hour with the 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.600 alternative Prime Minister, Peter Dunton more in a sect. 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:15.720 Thank you so much for watching. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:17.800 We are here with Peter Dunton a little session we 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.320 call Ask Me Anything. It's well basically like a giant 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.600