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Speaker 1: Appod Shape Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am

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Speaker 1: I A Mad Mom?

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Speaker 2: Podcast?

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Speaker 1: It blows my mind when I think about when we

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Speaker 1: started this podcast, because now I've got sixteen year olds.

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Speaker 3: I sent some photos to you because you were like, hey,

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Speaker 3: have you got any recent pics of us? And I

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Speaker 3: then was like looking through the folder, and you know

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Speaker 3: when you go back through the folder, and then I

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Speaker 3: go to like, I think it was like the original

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Speaker 3: photo shoot that we did for this particular podcast, and

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Speaker 3: your girls were so small and mine were even smaller,

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Speaker 3: like Elsie was tiny on my sitting on my lap.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. Yeah, now you got grown ups that

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Speaker 2: are taller than you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and what's funny is when you think about you

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Speaker 1: that age, because I'm like, wow, at that age, I

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Speaker 1: was practically an adult sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I look at your girls and they're doing stuff

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Speaker 3: as well like that, I go, stop growing up so fast,

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Speaker 3: like I always say to my girls, and go, you

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Speaker 3: don't want to grow up faster than you have to.

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Speaker 3: Trust me, being an adult is really not that much fun.

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Speaker 3: It's not And for everyone, just chill, just enjoy the

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Speaker 3: ride right now, because you've got it so goddamn easy.

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Speaker 2: You actually don't know how easy you got it.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, they've got big emotions, they've

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Speaker 3: got big feelings, and I'm trying to be respectful to

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Speaker 3: that because what seems really small to me is so

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Speaker 3: big for them.

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Speaker 2: Do you know it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Someone said to me the other day that it is

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Speaker 1: an actual thing that teenagers. You think you're going to

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Speaker 1: get to teenagers and then not going to need you anymore.

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Speaker 1: He need you more than younger kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I do say about a bit now. I go.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought life was really hard.

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Speaker 3: Like looking at that photo, I can imagine like my

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Speaker 3: thought process would have been, oh my gosh, I've got

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Speaker 3: two girls under six, Like this is hectic years, this

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Speaker 3: is so busy.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's gonna be all different when they

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Speaker 2: go to school. Katie, I don't have a life. I

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Speaker 2: don't have a life.

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Speaker 3: All I do is drive those girls from pillar to

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Speaker 3: post and do everything that they need to be doing.

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Speaker 1: I would say that moms. I know, we wear a

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Speaker 1: lot of hats, and the two that the kids use

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Speaker 1: us for the most is bank manager.

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Speaker 2: Uber. Yes.

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Speaker 1: They call me or text me yeah for either money

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Speaker 1: yeah or picking them up yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not mum, how are you?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Never? Never?

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Speaker 1: How is your day?

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Speaker 2: Ever? Am I a bad mum for not speaking up?

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Speaker 3: I hesitated about talking about this one, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: because there was a part of me, Katie that was

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Speaker 3: a little bit sad that I didn't speak up. Went

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Speaker 3: and took my girl to Grace Abrams.

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Speaker 2: Did I get that right? Yeah, she's sing a song.

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Speaker 2: She's just sing a songwriter. I only came out and COVID.

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Speaker 3: She's like literally made it happen since COVID, she said, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Her dad is a producer, Yeah, producer, yeah, jj Abrams.

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Speaker 3: Her music is beautiful though, and her voice is stunning,

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Speaker 3: but she's just naturally beautiful.

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Speaker 2: She's not all dolled up.

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Speaker 3: She's not trying to be anyone, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like that really came through with the way that she

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Speaker 3: was singing. Now, for my girls being ten and twelve,

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Speaker 3: it's quite refreshing to see this place was packed.

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Speaker 2: I thought of your girls and in that middle wash

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Speaker 2: they were all touching so closely. I was like, that

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Speaker 2: is not for me. The girls are yeah, your girls

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Speaker 2: are at the front. That was definitely not for me.

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Speaker 3: But we were on the side and we were sort

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Speaker 3: of closer to the front, so we had really good seats.

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Speaker 3: Right now, there's a back row behind me, and I

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Speaker 3: then there was Gracey, Evie Elsie, and then Christie was

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Speaker 2: But these two particular girls were right behind me. It

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Speaker 2: would have been no.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say between twenty and twenty five. They're

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Speaker 3: obviously just hating on life. And you know when people

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Speaker 3: start to make comments that are loud enough and are

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Speaker 3: obnoxious enough to say, but like if I turned around

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Speaker 3: and said, he you talking to me directly, that they

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Speaker 3: would probably go, what are you talking about? There was

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Speaker 3: about four different parts of my brain working all at once,

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Speaker 3: and I was starting to like so she started off saying, like,

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Speaker 3: because the girls were yelling out to Gracie like the

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Speaker 3: rest of fucking boondle. She goes, I wish these kids

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Speaker 3: would just learn to shut the fuck up. And I

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Speaker 3: was thinking, Oh, my gosh, you're talking about us, the.

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Speaker 1: Kids excited to see a concert.

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Speaker 3: Right There was just constant comments coming out Katie, And

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Speaker 3: you know, I think you just know. The gut feeling goes,

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Speaker 3: I know you're talking about us and the girls were

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Speaker 2: Elsie at this particular one moment screens.

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Speaker 3: Out Gracie really love you, and Gracie turns and waves

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Speaker 3: like it was a direct moment where we all went

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Speaker 3: I think she just waved to you will. It got

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Speaker 3: worse after that. The girls behind me just kept on going.

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Speaker 3: She goes, I can't stand any of these irresponsible, fucking

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Speaker 2: Going off Katie right like, I.

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Speaker 3: Had a full body response. It went from top to bottom.

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Speaker 3: So then in one time of my brain, I'm going,

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Speaker 3: don't say anything, Rachel, You're responsible mom. You've got your

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Speaker 3: kids sitting right next to you. Be a good example.

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Speaker 3: Like talking myself off the edge, I'm talking the other

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Speaker 3: side of my brain. Katie was from like that movie

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Speaker 3: Elemental the Fire, like the rage that just keeps raging,

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Speaker 3: Like it was flicking from one side of my brain

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Speaker 3: to the other. Don't turn around, Like at one stage,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure in my head I was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to turn around, and I was almost picturing myself

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Speaker 3: turning around and like punching her in the head. That's

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Speaker 3: how much she'd pushed me over the edge because of

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Speaker 3: what she was saying about a my parenting and be

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Speaker 3: my children.

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Speaker 1: Why would you sit there and say it that loudly though?

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Speaker 2: Because she wanted me to hear.

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Speaker 3: And then when she went to my parenting and like

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Speaker 3: irresponsible fucking parents, and I was like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Look around you.

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Speaker 3: Look around you. This place is full of this demographic

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Speaker 3: full you. Yeah, you are the one that is a

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Speaker 3: minority right now. Look around us, Like there's little girls

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Speaker 3: like between ten and sixteen crying their eyes out.

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Speaker 2: Because I was so excited to be seeing her.

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Speaker 3: What was irresponsible because we hadn't taught this is what

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Speaker 3: she said word for word. These irresponsible parents haven't taught

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Speaker 3: these young kids that they've decided to bring any concert

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Speaker 3: etiquette constant etiquette. Oh interesting, all right, well do you

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Speaker 3: want to talk about concert etiquette and your potty mouth

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Speaker 3: in front of my children?

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Speaker 2: Where's your etiquette as a human being?

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Speaker 1: That's irresponsible.

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Speaker 3: I'd gone from rage. I went into calm down, you're

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Speaker 3: a mom, you're this. I could have ramped up completely

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Speaker 3: going the other way. I could have made an absolute

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Speaker 3: dick of myself, but I was just like, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: stay in mum mode, Stay in.

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Speaker 2: Mummoes rise to the bay in mum mode.

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Speaker 3: You know how they say you can't bottle up your

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Speaker 3: emotions when you start to feel that, you have to

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Speaker 2: And then I started to just write it down. I

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Speaker 3: I was like putting in my phone and then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden I sent it to Christy and was like,

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Speaker 3: if you see me turn around and brawl in a second,

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Speaker 3: can you just make sure I don't just pull me off, like,

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Speaker 3: don't let it happen. I'm at that edge. I'd say

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Speaker 3: I'm probably at ninety nine percentes. She turns to me,

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Speaker 3: but remember there's three kids between us, so she's now

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Speaker 3: face seeing them. She goes what She's like, who the

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Speaker 3: fuck's saying that like that? She's looking back at them,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, oh.

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Speaker 2: That was wrong. I had that moment of going, should

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Speaker 2: I have just spoken up?

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Speaker 3: Should I have turned around and stuck up for my

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Speaker 3: kids and gone, excuse me, don't speak like that.

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Speaker 1: It would have been so interesting to know what would

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Speaker 1: have happened if you had just turned around and gone,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, you're talking about us? Yeah, And then I

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Speaker 1: guarantee she would have gone.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I just wanted.

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Speaker 3: To turn around and then this is probably the sarcastic

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Speaker 2: I wanted to turn around and just say to it.

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Speaker 2: Did you miss out on your childhood? Do you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about your childhood? Are you really sad? Going

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Speaker 2: on with you? What's up with you? Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Was your ten year old girl self?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is she feeling a little bit unloved right now?

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Speaker 3: Because we're a really good parent because we brought our

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Speaker 3: kids to this sort of stuff? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What kind of trauma is this bringing up for you?

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Speaker 2: But I did it.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 2: It's good for you. I didn't say anything.

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Speaker 3: But then for the next day and a half, I

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Speaker 3: was like, did you not stand up for your kids

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Speaker 3: because you didn't say anything?

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Speaker 1: Like, no, you didn't say anything because you didn't want

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Speaker 1: to call the scene. And I would actually say the

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Speaker 1: other way, you were being a good parent, that you

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Speaker 1: were ignoring it so that they could still enjoy the

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Speaker 1: experience because they probably didn't notice.

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Speaker 2: They didn't know a thing what she was oblivious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you allowed them to enjoy the concerts and

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Speaker 1: have a great time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was responsible, Mum. You were responsible. Wasn't a

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Speaker 2: bad mum?

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Speaker 3: No, I wanted to be a bad I wanted to

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Speaker 3: really just.

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Speaker 2: I also would

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Speaker 1: Have quite enjoyed hearing about