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Speaker 1: Hi, my boris and this is straight Talk. Scott Nicholson.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to straight Talk. Pretty exciting having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm excited about it next week so am I

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Speaker 1: you must be Hopefully you are house training going.

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Speaker 2: Really really good. It's good, very good.

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Speaker 3: I know your fighters pretty much always say it's been

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Speaker 3: the best camp, but it really actually has been the

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Speaker 3: best camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, touch would one more week to go, but it's

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Speaker 2: just been very smooth sailing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, can we just pick up heart a

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Speaker 1: good camp? So what do you mean by that? So?

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Speaker 1: So I guess I mean you're always training, esscually get that,

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Speaker 1: but like twelve weeks out when when you start preparing

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Speaker 1: for a fight in ten weeks? So just take me

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Speaker 1: through the camp. So we're looking at I.

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Speaker 3: Came home for Christmas, which was a really nice break

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Speaker 3: away from the boxing gym. You lived in UK, though

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Speaker 3: I am living in the UK, So I came back

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Speaker 3: to Australia Christmas, the Gold Coast summer. It was amazing

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Speaker 3: and I just I feel like I went back and

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Speaker 3: started camp in such a good headspace.

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Speaker 2: I think I needed that time away from the boxing.

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Speaker 3: Gym and yeah, camp camp can sometimes feel like it

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Speaker 3: drags and it could be a little bit long.

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Speaker 2: This has flown by, like the weeks were just flying.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was coming around so fast, and I was just

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Speaker 3: feeling better and better every week.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a bad SPA.

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Speaker 3: We were sparring top top girls all camp and you

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Speaker 3: could barely fault around, which was refreshing. There's definitely been

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Speaker 3: camps where things just haven't worked in sparring, and you

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Speaker 3: kind of go into fights thinking like am I ready? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just like those question marks a little bit, But there's

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Speaker 3: absolutely no question marks for this fight.

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Speaker 2: Like, I've never felt better prepared.

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Speaker 1: You know, look, you're not marked up running. You look amazing.

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Speaker 1: I guess you're pretty young still, but like you are

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Speaker 1: quite it's quite amazing. I was just looking at your skin,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, like, you're not beaten up at all. So

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Speaker 1: you have and you just come off a camp. So

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Speaker 1: and you just mentioned sparring. Could you just take us

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Speaker 1: through though, what sparring looks like. So one, where do

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Speaker 1: you get SPA partners from? They from overseas or the local?

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Speaker 1: How hard is it to get a spar partner given

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Speaker 1: that you're the world champion in your division at WBC. So, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, how can you get someone up to your level?

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Speaker 1: How do you pick a SPA partner for example, that's

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Speaker 1: similar to the size of your opponent or style of

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Speaker 1: your opponent. So show me how that looks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot that goes into it.

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Speaker 3: I actually think we've found it easier to get sparring

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Speaker 3: partners since becoming world champion. I think people wanted to

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Speaker 3: test themselves against a world champion and say they've sparred

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Speaker 3: a world champion. So the last twelve months has probably

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Speaker 3: been less difficult to get in good sparring, which has

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Speaker 3: been refreshing. It's been nice in Australia or no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I do my training camp in England.

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Speaker 3: We spa a range of different styles, but obviously want

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Speaker 3: girls want sparring partners that I guess have the same stance,

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Speaker 3: similar build to the opponent that we're preparing for. We

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Speaker 3: spa a mix and a range of ages weights, aggressive girls,

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Speaker 3: less aggressive girls.

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Speaker 1: Counterpinnches first, somebody coming at you.

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Speaker 3: All exactly, just so we're kind of prepared for anything.

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Speaker 3: I think with my style of fighting, you never really

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Speaker 3: know what approach the opponent's going to come in with

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Speaker 3: if they're if they're going to be aggressive, or if

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Speaker 3: they're going to try and sit back and make me

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Speaker 3: come to them, because obviously I'm known as a counterboxer.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, you know that you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: a lefty c euros.

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Speaker 2: I'm the south Poor.

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Speaker 1: So that your opponent orthodox, she's orthodox, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So she changed a little bit though sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what are you expecting? I mean, okay, you

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Speaker 1: as a Southport, what are you expecting from a right hander.

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Speaker 2: A right hander in general?

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Speaker 1: Or wow, you don't have to give to me seeing

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Speaker 1: things away, but just right in general. Just to give

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Speaker 1: our already a bit of a sense of you know

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Speaker 1: what you're what, you're being careful of, what you don't

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Speaker 1: want to expose yourself to.

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Speaker 3: I feel like as a Southport you do have a

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Speaker 3: little bit of an advantage, being the fact that you

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Speaker 3: are standing in the opposite stance to the way.

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Speaker 2: That most fighters are.

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Speaker 3: So most of the opponents of my next opponent would

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Speaker 3: have been orthodox right handed, so when they're standing opposite

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Speaker 3: each other there everything's the same.

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Speaker 1: Whereas you're trying to get your right foot outside her.

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Speaker 3: Whereas it opens right up when it's southport versus orthodox,

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Speaker 3: so your backhands a lot further away, and there's there's

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Speaker 3: a battle for that lead side. Yes, to set up

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Speaker 3: the backhand. But for me, I'm a little bit of

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Speaker 3: an awkward southpaw.

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Speaker 1: How's that?

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Speaker 2: I don't mind being on the inside.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So they come in with a game plan to be

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Speaker 3: taking my lead side off me and I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be there. And not a lot of

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Speaker 2: south paws.

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Speaker 1: Are Yeah, because you were sitting right in the right hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that they're straight, they could come straight down

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Speaker 1: the barrel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they just can't find me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So you're you you've got a movement? Is that

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Speaker 1: your thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say I I feel like I have very

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Speaker 3: good reflexes, reaction time, speed, and footwork. I think that

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Speaker 3: would be my biggest strengths. And I would say my

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Speaker 3: opponents not going to very easily find southpaw sparring that

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Speaker 3: has those same strengths.

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Speaker 1: Especially at your level. Yes, like you might find a

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Speaker 1: southpawl but there might be a bluger like you know,

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Speaker 1: not this delivery good. We're not very polished at the craft.

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Speaker 1: So so you've been able to get so in your

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Speaker 1: case your training camps in the UK, we're about in

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Speaker 1: the UK, which part of England.

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Speaker 2: And we talked about Southeast London, Kent, so it's like

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Speaker 2: just a little bit out of.

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Speaker 1: London and you're in Mattroom. That's Eddie Hearn's gang. Who

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Speaker 1: finds that Does he get involved in finding SPA partners

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Speaker 1: for he or is it team?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Me and my team?

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Speaker 3: Ye, so my coach Eddie Lamb. It's very confusing. They're

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Speaker 3: all there's a whole lot of eddies in England to think.

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Speaker 3: My coach Eddie Lamb organizes most of my sparring for me,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, that ranges from girls from all over the

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Speaker 3: not always.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: In this camp we had we had a fly in

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Speaker 3: from Denmark.

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Speaker 2: Who we've used before. She's very good.

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Speaker 3: She had one hundred amateur fights and she is an

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Speaker 3: undefeated professional same way, so she's great to work with.

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Speaker 2: Very sharp.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we use arrange. We use amateur girls as well.

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Speaker 3: They're very sharp. We usually have a couple of amateur

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Speaker 3: girls come in at the same time so they can

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Speaker 3: share the rounds. Because obviously they're more accustomed to three

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Speaker 1: So would it be normal for you, for example, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be normal for you, for example, to do three

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Speaker 1: rounds of this individual and that person jumps out or

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Speaker 1: two rounds then the next person jumps in. So you're

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Speaker 1: not fighting someone, you're not sparring with someone that they

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Speaker 1: get exhaust exhaust, excuse me, exhausted, because that's a bit dumb.

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Speaker 1: That does make sense. So you're just you know, your

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Speaker 1: team is picking three freshes to take you through for

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Speaker 1: maybe seven, right rounds, nine rounds whatever, ten ten rounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're you're you're taking yourself the whole ten rounds.

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Speaker 3: Not every single spa. We do maybe three or four

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Speaker 3: ten round spars across the whole camp.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, and.

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Speaker 3: The rest are usually about eight six to eight rounds,

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Speaker 3: mainly eight. We don't do a lot of six rounders.

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Speaker 3: Maybe more towards the end. We did six yesterday to

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Speaker 3: finish camp. It was the last spa actually with an

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Speaker 3: Australian girl, Sarah je Lennen.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to her.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so it kind of it's always it's always ranging.

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Speaker 3: We'll do eight rounds with one girl sometimes especially pros,

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Speaker 1: But is there a big advantage for you do you

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Speaker 1: think training in England in terms of sparring, because you know,

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Speaker 1: access to that sort of level of spy partners is

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Speaker 1: pretty hard here in Australia boys and girls. Yeah, it's difficult,

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Speaker 1: particularly the heavyweight division for the boys is nearly impossible.

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Speaker 1: But like, do you think that's a big advantage for

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Speaker 1: you and there's one of the is that one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons you moved to.

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Speaker 3: Of course, definitely, there's just a lot more opportunity there. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: women's boxing is still very small here. We've got a

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Speaker 3: if we were all in one area where you could

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Speaker 3: all get to each other, it would probably be a

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Speaker 3: lot stronger the women's boxing in Australia, But unfortunately we've

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Speaker 3: got great girls in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney, Tasmania, Brisbane. It

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Speaker 3: makes it very hard because you can't be all working

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Speaker 1: It's a boxing community like in Australia for females. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is it a proper community? You all know each other,

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Speaker 1: you hang out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone knows each other. It's a very very small community.

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Speaker 1: Go WhatsApp group.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the girls fight each other in Australia

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Speaker 3: I've only fought as a professional one Australian girl from

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Speaker 3: Tasmania last time I was here in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: But obviously a lot of the Australian girls are fighting

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Speaker 3: each other. So again, it makes it very hard in

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Speaker 3: finding sparring when they're all potential opponents as well.

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Speaker 1: So that what about the community in England?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 1: Have you been able to I noticing a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an English accent in there? Now, she's going to

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Speaker 1: get a real Aussie on it, I am, how's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they I'm sure they say, wow, you sound

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Speaker 1: so Australian. You're gaining a little bit sticky. It's got

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Speaker 1: a little a little bit of posh going on there.

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Speaker 1: I said it to you outside.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm just a post Australian.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, my god, it could be her.

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Speaker 2: Is there such thing as a postal Australian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just said it.

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Speaker 3: British parents really Yeah, okay, that's a little bit of

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Speaker 3: an excuse.

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Speaker 1: But are they they living there or they live they

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Speaker 1: live here? They live here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they think I'm crazy to want to live there.

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Speaker 1: They came here to get away from the joint. But

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Speaker 3: There's no point hurting them and getting them out of there,

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Speaker 1: Week because it's been a bit of shit talk going on.

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Speaker 1: She's not around of minding you.

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Speaker 3: Like, I just think it's so important, Like, no matter

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Speaker 2: Like how much she pokes the bear, whatever is said,

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Speaker 1: So you're not going to let her influence your mindset.

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Speaker 1: But how do you block that out? I mean, how

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Speaker 3: I think that's what makes an elite fighter, not letting

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Speaker 1: It's very purposeful though it's I mean, unfortunately we're not unfortunate,

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Speaker 3: I'm never going to be a ship talker and I'm

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Speaker 1: Because after the there way shake hands and is happy again,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there is definitely always a line

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Speaker 2: It doesn't need theatrics.

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Speaker 3: it's not needed, and I think good fights should sell

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Speaker 1: The crowd loves it.

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Speaker 2: They do, and.

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Speaker 3: I think there's certain personalities and fighters that it suits

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of fighters. They they let their boxing

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Speaker 3: You don't need all the all of the theatrics and

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Speaker 1: As a Queen's Land. Is Jeff warn someone that you

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Speaker 3: It was like Queensland and New South Wales development squad

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Speaker 3: Nine twenty ten, and George Cambosis, Jeff Horne, myself, who

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Speaker 3: I would have been fourteen, George probably would have been

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Speaker 1: What do you think about it? What do you think

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Speaker 3: I think for our small population, Australia is unbelievable. That's sport,

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Speaker 3: But that's kind of really put in boxing on the map.

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Speaker 3: And it's constantly said that Australian boxing's going so well

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Speaker 3: If you're fighting an Australian fighter, you know it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a tough fight. I feel like I haven't

445
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Speaker 3: got that label personally.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

447
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: Why I think because I haven't had to really show

448
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 3: any toughness yet as a professional.

449
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: Because I remember this about my toughness.

450
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Speaker 1: Well this just say about Tim if you remember a

451
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But he has displayed his toughness obviously.

452
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 1: But they used to say that about Tim because he

453
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: was always real clean fighter, like very sparkly. He used

454
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Speaker 1: to knock everyone out in the second or third round.

455
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: Can I ask you because I think it's important for

456
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Speaker 1: your audience to understand what you mean by toughness. So

457
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: we're not talking about toughness where you know, you get

458
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: hit in the head twenty times and not go down,

459
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Speaker 1: because that's sort of like a stupid toughness I mean,

460
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to disrespect him like Jeff Harding's style.

461
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that type of toughness. I'm talking

462
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Speaker 1: what do you mean by toughness? Because there's there's a

463
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: there's a final line between toughness and stupidity in boxes.

464
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: I agree, what do you mean by toughness?

465
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: I mean mental toughness probably more than anything.

466
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: If the fight gets tough and you've got to bite

467
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: down on your gum shield and go for it, the

468
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: cards are against you, you're going into the final couple of.

469
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Speaker 1: Round jefforn what he did to pack here? Yeah, best

470
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: example it was round nine, round nine he was basically

471
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: the referee went out in the corner. He said, if

472
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Speaker 1: you don't show me something, I'm going to stop the fight.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that's that's literally exactly what I

474
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: mean by Australian fighters being known as.

475
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: To Can you explain that though, what do you think,

476
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: what's going through people? What's going through your mind in

477
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: that situation?

478
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 3: Toughness isn't something that can be taught. I think it

479
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: has to be inside of you. And I feel like

480
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: you don't even know your own toughness until you're in

481
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: deep orders and at sink or swim and I think

482
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: Australian fighters are known to swim and keep swimming.

483
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: What just keeps you? What is that about us? I

484
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: mean they say about Mexicans all the time, that's a

485
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: tough Yeah, that's about it. Sort of understandable. There's probably

486
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy million Mexicans live there, and you

487
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: know there are a mix between Native people and Spanish people.

488
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: I guess you know, so they've probably got some sort

489
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: of genetic mix going on that's pretty tough.

490
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: And they've probably had hard lives a lot of them, correct,

491
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: they're all whereas Australians not really.

492
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I feel like we're quite spoiled.

493
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: A posh voice.

494
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: So I'm a posh Australian, So I haven't had it tough.

495
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: So where do you get there?

496
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: For?

497
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: Where do you get a fight?

498
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: I don't, That's what I'm saying though. I don't think

499
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: it's something to examine.

500
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: It in yourself. You ever examined it in yourself.

501
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: Where it comes from?

502
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: Do you ever think yourself? Am I really tough?

503
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: I was thinking yesterday at the beach when we were

504
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: fighting these really aggressive waves, that might have something to

505
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: do with that, because we used that that's why Australians

506
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: are tough, because they fight for their life every week.

507
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: Said to me something like, you know, one of your

508
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: guys is all tough. You've got the most poisonous snakes

509
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: in the world. You got the biggest pot of as

510
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: the world, and the biggest sharks in the world, the

511
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: most poisonous spider and he actually said that, like, and

512
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: we take all that stuff for granted, of course, especially

513
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: where you come from Queens. I mean, you don't even

514
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: think about it. And that's jellyfish, all that sort of stuff.

515
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because we're just born into those environments. But

516
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: that's what I was sort of saying before about the

517
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: difference between someone who is a born fighter and I

518
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: think a born fighter is someone who actually has that

519
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: mental toughness and can do what Jeff Horn did and

520
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: that ninth round when the referee said, listen, if you

521
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: don't show me something that's over and you've got it

522
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: and definitely showed him something, you know, And there's been

523
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: a litany of Australians who have shown that. And do

524
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: you think that if you ever do you think that

525
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: that has ever happened to you, if you ever felt

526
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: that in a fight where my god, if I don't

527
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: show something, not as a professional, as an amateur. Yeah. Yeah.

528
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: And in spas, there's been spar there's been hard sparring

529
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: sessions where I've had to bite down and.

530
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: Explained that through hard spars. A lot we have a

531
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Speaker 1: big female audience and a lot of them wouldn't have

532
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: I really have any understanding of that. So what do

533
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: you mean by the bite down? Like?

534
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: I think remembering your why in those hard moments is

535
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: so important. I think knowing yourself I think for me,

536
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: like I want to be able to live with myself.

537
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: That's why I go in to fight so confident, because

538
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: I leave no stone unturned.

539
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one percent is so important.

540
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: You know that at the end of this it's only

541
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: you getting in there, and it's only you that you

542
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: have to live with afterwards.

543
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: So your corner can't help you, no, except in between

544
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: the rouse.

545
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: They can't help it, but they can't fight the fight

546
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: for you.

547
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: You've got to fight the fight yourself.

548
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes my confidence can be confused with

549
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: arrogance by people, but it's really not. It's I have

550
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: so much confidence because I know I'm putting my best

551
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: self in that ring on that day, and I've done

552
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: app asolutely everything to make sure that I'm going to

553
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: be the best version of myself in there.

554
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Are you a perfectionist?

555
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: I am a perfectionist in everything, in everything that's your thing. Yes,

556
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: it can be a blessing and a curse.

557
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Yep, taming through the curse part.

558
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: First, You can't be perfect all the time. Things can't

559
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: be perfect. Life happens. There's so many things and moving

560
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: parts to everything all the time. And I pick apart

561
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: every little thing I do. And I'll have one hundred

562
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: and twenty five rounds of sparring, and one hundred and

563
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: twenty of them were literally perfect, and I'll be focused

564
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: on those five.

565
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: Rounds that weren't.

566
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: Is your process? Okay, Let's say you did ten rounds

567
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: a day and eight were good tool shit, and you'll

568
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: sit down. When do you start thinking about those two rounds.

569
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: It is something you wake up from the second I

570
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: get out of the ring.

571
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: What about when you go to bed? It not when

572
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: you go to sleep.

573
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: You're still thinking about it.

574
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: And does it sort of impact your sleep?

575
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: Can it?

576
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: Can it impact your sleep? Will you rest?

577
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: No, because then the other side of me kicks in,

578
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: that is my preparation needs to be perfect.

579
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: So that's pretty amazing, you know when you fitch, that's

580
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: pretty amazing though. Being able to switch or turn the

581
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: switch off and turn the volume up, turn the volume

582
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: down because this is just noise. You know, these things

583
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: tend to be noised, like something like me two in

584
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: the morning, Jimmy Creaker gets on top of his starts

585
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Romney's and I'm saying, get the fuck out of here,

586
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: but I can't. It's harder control. I get to get up,

587
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, move around a bit and sort of do

588
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: something just to get it out of my head. But

589
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: the ability to be able to turn things off and

590
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: turn things up and turn things down, whether you're in

591
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: the ring or whether you're in bed, trying to stop

592
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: analyzing something because you know it's more important that you rest.

593
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: That's a big skill. Have you always had that? Skills?

594
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: There's something you've had to work on it again.

595
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 3: Something that has developed and something I've perfected over the years. Consciously, Yeah,

596
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: I think the Whoop Yeah Whoop club, the Gang Gang.

597
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: I feel like that has been a big positive influence on.

598
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: But it can also drive you crazy.

599
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: Today, like when you're a perfectionist.

600
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: Yes, this morning it did a quick story now to

601
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: do with anything, but I had to go for dinner

602
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: with some of my business partners from overseas, and I

603
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: never read dinner a certain time. We ended up going

604
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: to a restaurant dinner late.

605
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: The idea in your daylight hours, mate.

606
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough sleep this morning. I just opened

607
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: up my app and oh my god, it's yellow.

608
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: Not a yellow recovery yellow, yes.

609
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Yellow recovery and heart rate veriability, the whole thing. I went,

610
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, like because you ate late, ate late,

611
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't see probably my heart rate, my rest

612
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: of heart rate was up and blah blahah and but

613
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: I know where you're come from, and that sort of

614
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: stuff is these are blessing blessings. I actually think I

615
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: take the view if you can't miser you can't manage it.

616
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing in my life, and i'd

617
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: use it more for business performance, et cetera. But you know,

618
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to perform well when to talk to

619
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: people like you today. And I had someone in before you,

620
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I have a long day and I'm

621
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: getting you know, I'm maturing in age, so I want

622
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: everything in my favor. And it's great to hear young

623
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: a young person like you. I mean take side of

624
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: you're an athlete and at a world level world tide,

625
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: but just as a young person being sort of.

626
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: Obsessed, Yeah, prioritizing with that's a better want to recovery,

627
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: rest recovery and measurement.

628
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: Yes, balancing, yeah, And does the measurement assist you to

629
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: get over those moments when you can start to obsess

630
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: about something you know that you should stop thinking about

631
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: it and go to bloody sleep.

632
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Yes, because now it's bed time routine.

633
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Something else is doing it for you, and it'll tell

634
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: you in the morning when you first get up and

635
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: you sit down and have a quick look at what

636
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: happened last night or the previous twenty four hours. That's

637
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: pretty amazing for a young woman or young man and

638
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: to be able to and I think you represent the

639
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: modern athlete, the modern fighting athlete. I mean, like, if

640
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I go back to the years of you know, Jeff

641
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: and all those guys, Finic and all those guys and

642
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: all of them mine, you are more quite well. I

643
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: still know them quite well. That discipline never existed. You know.

644
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: It was just mere instinct and basic talent. Tough dudes

645
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: who had great skills, but nothing else was measured. Sure

646
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: they knew how to lose weight, to make weight, but

647
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: it was an extreme environment. They would just stop drinking water,

648
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: so eating food, let's for five six days.

649
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: So much more science now.

650
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: So let's just talk about your team in terms of

651
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: all these other things. So you know, we talked about

652
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: the sparring e as important for your premim you're a

653
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: ten week and you doing the UK and you get

654
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: access to all these people. But let's just talk a

655
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: little bit about you know, I said to you, how's

656
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: your weight? You know, you said, you know, it's on track.

657
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: But there's a little bit more sciences associated with weight.

658
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: What who do you have in your team that helps

659
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: you sort of make weight, make sure nutrition's right. So

660
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: you're not making weight but losing muscle. You know, what

661
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: do you do? What's your process.

662
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: I've worked with a lot of nutritionists over the years,

663
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: and I've the perfectionists that I am. I've kind of

664
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: developed the exact approach that I need, so I know

665
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: exactly for me, I know exactly what I need to

666
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: weigh a week out from the way in, exactly what

667
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: I need to weigh a month out from.

668
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: The way in.

669
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: Is because you don't have so many times.

670
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: I've done it so many times, and I've been boxing

671
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: it the same weight for years and years and years

672
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: and years as well, and I don't directly work with

673
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: a nutritionist.

674
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: Now.

675
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: This will probably be my fourth or fifth fight in

676
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: a row as a professional that I've done it completely, all.

677
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: At fairtherweight my own by myself. What would you normally

678
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: walk around at.

679
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: I'd say sixty two kilos would be my average.

680
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: It's going to lose five to six five kilos five kilos,

681
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, so that's pretty management.

682
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: It's very manageable. I do feel like I am a

683
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: good size for the weeight.

684
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: You mean once you fight, when you're fighting.

685
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean being being a fifty seven kilo

686
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: fighter that walks around at sixty two.

687
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: I think that's a good size to be.

688
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't do anything dramatic to make the weight. I'm

689
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: not dehydrating myself to a point that it's.

690
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: Going to affect me.

691
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: And it can.

692
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: It can.

693
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: I can physically make superbantom weight, but I don't see

694
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: why I would.

695
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I've seen world champions, or one in particular, I won't

696
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: say his name who struggled to make featherweight in the

697
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: men's but got to feather weight and got hit on

698
00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: the chin and gone lost. Mexican hidiotm is titled there's not.

699
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: Enough fluid on the brain when you're doing those crazy

700
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: weight cuts. So for me, it's just important to be

701
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 3: within three kilos ish at the start of fight week.

702
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: I adjust my salt intake, my carb intake, my fiber intake,

703
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: and the weight just falls off you in those few days.

704
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: It's not real weight, but it's temporary weight that comes

705
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: off just in time for the way in. You weigh

706
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: fifty seven kilos for about an hour and then.

707
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: You rehydrate and start eating. It's interesting and most of

708
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: your audience might know this, but like you would think, oh,

709
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: stop eating meat, stop eating heavy stuff, and all these vegetables.

710
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: But the problem with vegetables is the whole water and

711
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: they sit in it your gut and sit in your gut.

712
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: It's good for you, but like it holds weight. Yeah,

713
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: And what you don't do is you see it sounds

714
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: like you've got the science yourself.

715
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: And I have worked with nutritionists for a long time.

716
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: You borrow the signs from them and you've learned what

717
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: works for you and you put yourself through that process.

718
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: What about one you've finished a fighter? I mean often,

719
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean I've always gett intrigued with fires when they

720
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: finished a fight. A lot of fighters do different things.

721
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: Some stop training and just give me a cake and stuff.

722
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: That I've definitely done a lot of that and I've

723
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: also learned a lot from that as well.

724
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: Now you're the world champions, so like everyone's going to

725
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: want a piece of you, so and they're all going

726
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: to be tapping you. And also the you know, the WBS.

727
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: There's expectations as to who you will fight, and you

728
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: could sort of fight any time. You really can't take

729
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: your foot off the pedal, can you? I mean a

730
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: little bit.

731
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: It's all about balance, it's intensity.

732
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: I think as a young fighter, you've made weight, you've

733
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: been dieting, you've been training really hard. The fight's over,

734
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: you want to eat everything in sight. You think I

735
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: need to eat everything that I couldn't. I couldn't eat

736
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: all of this stuff for ten weeks, and I'm going

737
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: to start camp again and I'm not going to be

738
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: able to have any of it again. And you like

739
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: blow out, and I've definitely done a lot of that.

740
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: I feel like now I live the life.

741
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: All year round, so professional, truly professional. Yeah, but accepting it.

742
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: You're not fighting against it, you actually accept it.

743
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: I actually enjoy this lifestyle better.

744
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: I definitely indulge, and I enjoy the things that I

745
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: have missed while I've been preparing for the fight, but

746
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: kind of in a much more controlled.

747
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: Way, so you don't over indulge.

748
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't over indulge, and I don't just go

749
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: from training two or three times a day to sitting

750
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: on the sofa or doing no exercise.

751
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, believe me, I've done all of it. I've done

752
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: it all.

753
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: And now like I realize how good physical exercise is

754
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: and training is for me mentally and physically, that after

755
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: a fight, I am still training, well not even training,

756
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even call it training, but I am exercising.

757
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: I am going and doing different training gym classes and

758
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: Barry's boot camps and going for runs and just doing

759
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: stuff that I enjoy and it makes me feel good.

760
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: And when I start camp, I'm in so much of

761
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: a better position. I feel so good starting I'm not.

762
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: It's not starting again. It's not like you've just had

763
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: weeks of eating shit, doing nothing and your fitness levels

764
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: have gone back to zero, and it's like that really

765
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: hard fight at the time. That's why I only do

766
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: a ten week camp as well. I don't need any

767
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: longer than that. I'm already starting camp in a really

768
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: good place because I keep the body ticking over. I

769
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: don't get too heavy in weight. I don't blow out

770
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: and become a big fat alcoholic.

771
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: It's like, do you know what I mean? Like, I just.

772
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: I enjoy the downtime in a way that's still going

773
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: to positively.

774
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: Affect my next training camp.

775
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting you keep on. I keep getting in my

776
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: mind if I could sort of define you in terms

777
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: of the way you're speaking, is very purposeful in everything

778
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: you do, and you're not putting yourself through the ringer.

779
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: And because if you make it too hard for yourself,

780
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: you're going to have sort of resent it a bit.

781
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: And you've actually sounds like you've adopted a lifestyle around

782
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: your professional career, your athleticism, and what it requires for

783
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you to be this person. At the top, you said, well,

784
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: that's my lifestyle. Yeah, I like being healthy. Is that

785
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: sort of the summary?

786
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like you can feel in yourself.

787
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: I know, if I haven't exercised or trained, I feel

788
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: like shit. I don't feel happy, I don't feel excited

789
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: about life. And you go for a run and your

790
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: whole mood can change. And if you asked me that

791
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: three years ago, the thought of going for a run

792
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: was the worst thing in.

793
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: The world because you associated with hard work.

794
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate it. I'll never like running. You could

795
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: never convince me to like running. I don't know how

796
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: people like running.

797
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: It's crazy. And now I'm like the biggest advocate for running.

798
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: I love it.

799
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: It's so good for you. Like the feeling when you're done,

800
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 3: Your whole day will change.

801
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: People. Are you fascinating me? Because I often wanted to myself.

802
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: Is this a genetic thing? Is it like in her

803
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: genes or his genes to be this person? I'm not

804
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: just talking about the talent, the natural athletic talent, but

805
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the mindset, the ability to put your

806
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: mind to something. And of course, if you don't mind

807
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: if I just touched on it for a second, you

808
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: know you do have you have had other family members

809
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: or one other family member who is in your life.

810
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever met your brother, but unfortunately,

811
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: but he was a great fighter, a great boxer. How

812
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: much of that, if you don't mind me asking question,

813
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: it's an obvious question for me anyway, how much of

814
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: that has influenced you to become a fighter? I've maybe

815
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: you just told a story first.

816
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had two brothers that passed away in

817
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: a car accident in nineteen ninety four. I was born

818
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety five, so I never ever met Jamie

819
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: and Gavin, but I obviously grew up in a household

820
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: that celebrated their lives every day. So I grew up

821
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: hearing about these two amazing people that everyone.

822
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: I love loved so much.

823
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: And it's such a strange thing to try and explain

824
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: to someone, but I feel like I knew them too,

825
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: because I've grown up learning so much about everything they did.

826
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: They were ten and twenty.

827
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: Two, two years of age and ten years of age.

828
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just the way they are celebrated in my

829
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: household and by family and friends, the way they talked

830
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: about their personalities, who they were as people, what they did.

831
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: I feel like I know them and I knew them. Yeah,

832
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: It's really really hard to explain in words, but I

833
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: feel like I lost them just like that everyone else did.

834
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: And it was as a car accident.

835
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, a car accident. It was like a Tuesday night

836
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: on the way to boxing training in a storm in

837
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast.

838
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Was it the younger brother he was he also doing boxing?

839
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 2: Yeah?

840
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: They were going to boxing training together, right, Yeah. So

841
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: Jamie was twenty two arguably one of the best amateur

842
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: boxers to ever come out of Australia. I remember was

843
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 3: ranked number one in the world as an amateur, Commoth

844
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Games medalist, Olympian.

845
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: As you as yourself, yeah, school teacher.

846
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: All by twenty two though, Like that's impressive. He was

847
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: fighting men at the Men's World Championships at seventeen years

848
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: old and won Australia's first ever men's World Championship medal.

849
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: I won Australia's first ever women's World Germanship Medal. I

850
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: think I was like twenty one, so that was pretty

851
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: impressive what he did.

852
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody O he did.

853
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he had some pretty impressive starts for a

854
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: twenty two year old.

855
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: And when I knew you were coming in today and

856
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you and I was thinking about him,

857
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: I was wondering to myself, sort of going back to

858
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: my question. I was wondering to myself, is there a

859
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: gene in her family which is to pass on by

860
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: mum and dad? Obviously that makes some fighters? Or was

861
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Sky influenced by this romantic because you never met him,

862
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: but a romantic I don't mean it in a romantic sense,

863
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: but a romanticizing about someone who was her brother or

864
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: two brothers who she never got to meet, and the

865
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: romanticism of it was so strong that it got her

866
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: to become a fighter as well. I mean I wonder

867
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: about that. I thought to himself, is it just a

868
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: genny think she's automaticly going to do because that's what

869
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: she meant to do physically? Or was it could be

870
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: a combination, or was it because she wanted to meet

871
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: him and never got a chance to And the best

872
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: way to meet him is meet him at his skill,

873
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: the thing he was known for, the thing you knew

874
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: him for. What do you reckon it?

875
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: Is?

876
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: You ever thought about that?

877
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: I am. I always grew up.

878
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: As a young child thinking I was so much like Gavin.

879
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: So Gavin had started boxing. He was only ten, so

880
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: you can only just start boxing at ten. I think

881
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: he'd had maybe eight or nine like that. Yeah, sorry,

882
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: it's fourteen in New South Wales.

883
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: No, it's older. Yeah, older in New South Wales and

884
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people send the kid up there.

885
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: So Gavin had just started boxing, but he was very

886
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: into like musical theater and performing.

887
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: He was like a drama.

888
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, drama. He was really into the performing arts, and

889
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: so was I growing up.

890
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: So I kind of always felt like I had that

891
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: connection with Gavin.

892
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: I heard about.

893
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: How amazing Jamie was all the time as well, but

894
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: I never really saw that same connection because boxing, seeing

895
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 3: females boxing back then was like very very very rare,

896
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: unheard of really, and it was never even something that

897
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: was talked about or considered.

898
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: To watch, to be honest with you, but it is now,

899
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: but then it's getting there. No, No, it is now,

900
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: absolutely is now. It's about Ugy League rugby league, it

901
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: was pretty average, but now it's great and boxing is

902
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: the same for females now.

903
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: So the thought of me ever being a boxer was

904
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: just never something that was even ever considered in my household.

905
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: So I did, as a younger child always feel quite

906
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: connected to Gavin in the sense that I loved being

907
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: in musicals.

908
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: And drama acting.

909
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: And when I started going into the boxing gym, my

910
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: oldest brother, Allan, is a boxing coach and we have

911
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: a local boxing club in Yatler, up in Queensland, and

912
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: I was just finishing primary school Yatler, the Yattler Butler,

913
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: the English I was in the Christmas holidays between finishing

914
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: year seven and starting year eight, which at the time

915
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: was the primary school to high school changeover, and I

916
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: kind of just started going for fitness confidence. There was

917
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 3: definitely never anything in my mind that I would ever fight,

918
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: but I really did enjoy the training and I was

919
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: really enjoying going.

920
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: And I was twelve years old.

921
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: And there was a couple of other boys the same

922
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: age as me starting at the same time, so we

923
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: were all training together and we started doing a bit

924
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: of the partner work drills. Then it became sparring, and

925
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: they were getting ready to get their blue books and

926
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: their medicals done.

927
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: Explain a blue book.

928
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: The blue book is your little record book. I don't know,

929
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: it's still the same thing.

930
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

931
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: I thought it would be all electronic.

932
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: Now you still have blue book.

933
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's basically like your record book. It's your

934
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: box wreck in a little handwritten.

935
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: Book, which you must have all the time.

936
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: You must have on you to weigh in, to fight,

937
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 3: to get the doctor to sign off before your box. Anyway,

938
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: I wanted a blue book. The boys were getting blue books.

939
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: I've been doing all the same training as well. I've

940
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: been sparring them. I'm just as good as them, if

941
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: not better. I want a blue book. So it was

942
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: almost a little bit of an argument slash convincing mum

943
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: and dad that I'm ready for a blue book and

944
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: I want to do it, which I think they were

945
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: quite shocked by.

946
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: They knew I was going up.

947
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: There a couple of nights a week, but they couldn't

948
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: believe that their twelve year old daughter actually wanted to

949
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: go to the boxing tournament's way in.

950
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: And potentially fight.

951
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: My brother convinced them, they said, he said, you gotta

952
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: watch her.

953
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: She's actually really good.

954
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: There's glimpses of Jamie in her same south poor stance, counterboxer.

955
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: She'll be fine.

956
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: And mom and dad don't worry, Like, what are the

957
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: chances of there being another forty five kilo twelve year old.

958
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: Girl at the show? Like, keep her happy. She's enjoying

959
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: coming to the training.

960
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: Lo and behold first way in another girl there forty

961
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: five kilos, she's had five fights.

962
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't care. Put me in, Mum and dad. I'm ready.

963
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: Had my first fight and never ever looked back. I won,

964
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: I won.

965
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: We ended up finding each other ten times between the ages,

966
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: and because there wasn't many girls.

967
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we boxed. Yeah, we boxed.

968
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: She's probably the one girl I boxed ten times. A

969
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: few others came close. There was a couple of boxed.

970
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Eight times, six times, but boxed each other ten times.

971
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: That's thirty rounds.

972
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, over the years. Actually there was a couple of

973
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: four four two minute rounds in there. When it changed

974
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: to youths. Yeah, it changes all the time. But basically

975
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: before the women went three threes, the women were four twos.

976
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: So our last fight was four two's when we were

977
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen years old. But yeah, I from that date.

978
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: It was February two thousand and eight. I don't think

979
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: I've ever spent more than a few weeks out of

980
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 3: a boxing gym, and I couldn't imagine.

981
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: My life going any other I have gone any other.

982
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Way because you said to me, you're one of the

983
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: things that helps you out or you work with is

984
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: your why?

985
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: What is?

986
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: Why do you do it? Why do you why do

987
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: you fight for a living?

988
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: I just love boxing. I really love boxing. I love winning.

989
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: I love the feeling of at the end of the fight,

990
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: all of that hard work paying off.

991
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: I love to charge sense of achievement.

992
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: Sense of achievement, definitely. Yeah, But I feel like it's

993
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 3: more of a just like a deep love for boxing,

994
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: for the sport of boxing. I love the art of boxing.

995
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: That's important, the art of boxing.

996
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that hit and not get hit.

997
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the perfectionist in me a little bit.

998
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: I get annoyed if I get hit a couple.

999
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: Of times, which is quite funny as a professional boxer,

1000
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: but I actually get annoyed with myself if I get

1001
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: caught with shots.

1002
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: You do you describe yourself as a counterpuncher.

1003
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're we're slowly becoming a more all

1004
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: round fighter.

1005
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: Which means you push forward and you put a bit

1006
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: of pressure on people.

1007
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've we've got we've got tricks in the trick

1008
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: bag if we need them. But I think I'm always

1009
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: going to naturally be a counter boxer. I think we're

1010
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: becoming a more aggressive counterbox CLO. There's a lot more

1011
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: punches being thrown.

1012
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: Now in that you step back on are you saying,

1013
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: you get back on your back foot and then you throw.

1014
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: Apply pressure ye without punching, causing them to commit to punching,

1015
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: and then I make them miss and then I make

1016
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: them pay.

1017
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Right, and it's beautiful and throwing punches and bunches you're

1018
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: not just throwing when you see exactly.

1019
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we've been really trying to develop punch output,

1020
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: especially in this camp, instead of just single shots going

1021
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: through the gears, putting more combinations together, being more aggressive.

1022
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: So just explain to your audience something here for a

1023
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: moment done because a lot I said earlier, A lot

1024
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: of people have never thought so often we see a

1025
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: fight and we think, and you hear the commentators and

1026
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: they're saying, well, you know, he's just throwing lea, a

1027
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: jab and maybe one two, and then the commentators say, look,

1028
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: you've got to throw more than that. You're gonna throw

1029
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: three or four or five whatever punches and bunches, And

1030
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: they often say that how hard is it when you

1031
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: get back to your corner and you sit down on

1032
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: the I'm assuming you do sit down strand you stand okay,

1033
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: you stand up, and your trainer says to you, mate,

1034
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: you've got to get more busy. Yeah, because you know

1035
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: they're are a few times yep, how yeah, Well, you

1036
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, How hard is it for you

1037
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: to do that? Like to apply that, because just explain

1038
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: what's going on in your head at that time, and

1039
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: sometimes you know you're sort of out. Strategy can be

1040
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Once you're in the middle of the ring,

1041
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: and especially you get touched up, touched up a bit,

1042
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: the whole stranger goes out and you've got to start

1043
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: making up planner. But planners you go, and then you

1044
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: get to the corner, corner saying you breathe, breathe, breathe,

1045
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: and then they're saying you gotta throw more punch. You

1046
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: go to get more aggressive? How do you what do

1047
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: you do to yourself, what are you doing? Especially in

1048
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: the ladder rounds where we're starting to get a bit

1049
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: of fatigue.

1050
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: I think you have to listen to your corner and

1051
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: you have to trush your corner. You have to trush

1052
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: your team. So if they're saying you need to do more,

1053
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: you need to do more. I think the perfection the

1054
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: perfectionist in me, as I said before, can sometimes be

1055
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: a curse.

1056
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm in that fight.

1057
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: Like constantly and consistently assessing everything every millisecond of your opponent,

1058
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: of my opponent, what she's doing, what I'm doing. And

1059
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: if I let three or four shots go, there's a

1060
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: chance that I'm going to be open to her landing

1061
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: a shot for a few seconds longer than if I

1062
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: just throw one or two and then get out again

1063
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: and reset.

1064
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of thinking and assessing going on.

1065
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Or can you can you ever think of that? I

1066
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: mean can you you as a person?

1067
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: Yes, you can, And I think as a perfectionist, yes,

1068
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: And I think that's something that has been something that

1069
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: we've really really worked on, especially in this camp, to

1070
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: not overthink those situations, and sometimes you just have to

1071
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: bite down and go for it.

1072
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: And that's inspiring. That's what you practice, because lots of

1073
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: people preferred to training, but I like to refer to

1074
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: as practice. I think it's a better word, and you're

1075
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: practicing your craft.

1076
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been a process, especially with me being such

1077
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 3: a perfectionist, to now be at the point where it's

1078
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: happening naturally and I'm not having to overthink that process, and.

1079
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's more instinctive.

1080
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 3: It's more Yeah, it's happening off instinct now, which has

1081
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: been such a positive I guess outcome from this training camp,

1082
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: stuff that I've had to force and be quite uncomfortable

1083
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: doing for so long, inspiring over the last couple of

1084
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: years to now it just being there naturally and happening

1085
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: on its own, so that in the fight, if I'm

1086
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: in a position where I need to do those things,

1087
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: it's all there and it's going to happen naturally for me,

1088
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to have to spend energy thinking

1089
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: and overassessing how do I do this perfectly, because it's

1090
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 3: just going to be there and it's just going to happen.

1091
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: Can you you think to yourself back when you were

1092
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: fourteen and you went off to I think you said

1093
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Russia as a as a small crew and Cambo's George

1094
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: was there and now you're you're in here. Is it

1095
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: a comain event? So you're the komain event at Kutos

1096
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: Nossie Saw, which is fantastic. Do you reckon? You ever

1097
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: thought to yourself? Did you ever think yourself and maybe

1098
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: watch point in your career, did you ever think yourself,

1099
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the world champion, and I think

1100
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: I can be the world champion and be doing co

1101
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: main events with guys like George Combosas. It's pretty freaky,

1102
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: it is.

1103
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 3: It's I have pinched me moments all the time where

1104
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 3: I think back to.

1105
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: Little me. Yeah, and just like.

1106
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: How I had absolutely no idea the journey that was

1107
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: going to unfold, even twenty year old me.

1108
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 2: It's just it's crazy, Like twenty year old me hadn't been.

1109
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: To the Comnwealth Games, Olympics sessional and I go on

1110
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: and do all those things, become a world champion, and

1111
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: I had no idea. I just loved boxing. I still

1112
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 3: love boxing, but I just loved the sports so much.

1113
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: I loved the challenge, I loved the pressure, the expectation.

1114
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: I don't know there's something about it that just pushes me.

1115
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: And moments like Saturday night walking out into that arena

1116
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: on home soil, undefeated fighter, US undefeated fighter for the

1117
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: WBC World title, like it's just goosebump moments.

1118
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be fantastic. I've always wanted

1119
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: to excuse me, I've always wanted to ask. I have

1120
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: asked many people this same question. But the transition you

1121
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: mentioned common games, Olympic games, an amateur career, the transition

1122
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: from amate to professional. And I must say I'm not

1123
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: that familiar with female amateurs, but mile amitters into professional

1124
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between the style, you know, like

1125
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: ask carry garside. I mean they you know, they jump

1126
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: in and jump out like it's about tapping in points

1127
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's not much inside.

1128
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: What was your transition like, I think I went into

1129
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: the professionals very what's the word.

1130
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: Blase about the transition. I'll be sweet. I'll just do

1131
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: what I do in the amateurs.

1132
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: In the pros, I worked for the first free fights

1133
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: to be fair, but as the fight's got more serious,

1134
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing six rounders anymore or eight rounders anymore.

1135
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: I was doing ten rounders. I was fighting for belts,

1136
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: and I was fighting real professionals who were not going

1137
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: to be phased by my tapping and moving. I had

1138
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: a hard learning fight. I won't say which one, but

1139
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: I had a hard learning fight where a flick switched, switched.

1140
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: Switch flicked, switch flicked, switch flicked, where a switch.

1141
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: Flicked, And I realized I need to actually listen to

1142
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: my coaches and be open to learning how to fight

1143
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: like a professional.

1144
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: Change my style.

1145
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: That means that, what do you mean by finding like

1146
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: a professional? What's the difference?

1147
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: Change my style, change my approach to what?

1148
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: Though?

1149
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: To change your style to what?

1150
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: This isn't just point scoring amateur boxing anymore. This is

1151
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: sitting down on your shots, hurting your opponent, punching with spite.

1152
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Am being prepared to cop it back?

1153
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: Yes, without overassessing it.

1154
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: And.

1155
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think after that fight, I realized that's what

1156
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: I needed to do and I needed to go all

1157
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: in on my pro career. That was also when I

1158
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 3: decided I wasn't going to go back to the amateurs

1159
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: and do the Olympics, because obviously my first year as

1160
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: a pro, I still had my sight set on going

1161
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: back for Paris twenty twenty four. It was kind of

1162
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: a bit of a time filler for me to turn professional.

1163
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't really ever something I was excited about that

1164
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: quickly changed. I absolutely fell in love with professional boxing.

1165
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: I fell in love with the lights, camera action side

1166
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: of it.

1167
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I love it's a much bigger event.

1168
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the excitement of it all.

1169
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: And when it was time to make that final decision

1170
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: if I was going to go back to the national team,

1171
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: come back to Australia, go through the qualifying processes.

1172
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Because there's only to you turn around between the previous

1173
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: Olympics because of the.

1174
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: Qualifying process, Yeah, I had basically got myself into a

1175
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: position where I was one fight away from being mandatory

1176
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: for Amanda Serrano, who's who at the time was undisputed

1177
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: in the featherweight division. And my goals had changed, and

1178
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: that meant working very hard in the gym to make

1179
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: myself a professional fighter and not an amateur boxer anymore.

1180
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: There's a big difference. I mean, it'd be good just

1181
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: to how do you feel about that transition, Like, I

1182
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: know you just sort of explained that it was to

1183
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: mental transition, isn't it.

1184
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: There was there was a mental transition definitely. I think

1185
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 3: that fight that I was speaking about changed something in

1186
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: me mentally where I realized I can't just get away

1187
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: with boxing and point scoring and picking single shots and

1188
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: moving away. And I realized I was going to be

1189
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: in real fights against real professionals who are coming to fight.

1190
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: They're going to be there all night, and that that

1191
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: style of point scoring and punching and moving away all

1192
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: the time wasn't going to work anymore. And I did

1193
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: have to stand and fight, not all the time, because

1194
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm not a brawler. I'm not going to understand and

1195
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 3: have a yeah, have a toe to toe, especially when

1196
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: that would play to my own its strengths more than

1197
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: my own.

1198
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that. But time and place for things.

1199
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: And I think since that moment, it's been all about

1200
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: adding tricks to the trick bag, and I feel like

1201
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,479
Speaker 3: it's been a long process, but we're there. I feel

1202
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: like we're getting closer all the time to being the

1203
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: full package, an all round fighter that can do it all.

1204
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: I can stand toe to toe and fight. I can

1205
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: box and move.

1206
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: I can apply pressure with or without punches. I can.

1207
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: Set the pace of the fight. I can stay in

1208
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: control of the pace of the fight, all of these

1209
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: things that has been a really big work in progress

1210
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: with my team, and.

1211
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: I feel like it's all coming together perfectly for this

1212
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: big fight.

1213
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: So and last week or about a week or two before,

1214
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: he's excellency to care Turkey. Yeah, i'd say Turkey, but

1215
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: you say Turkey made a big announcement. Yeah, And you're

1216
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: potentially one of the beneficiaries of these types of announcements.

1217
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: I know that job has been fought in those re environments.

1218
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: I know that George is pretty excited about it. It's

1219
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: about people are getting being properly rewarded for the effort

1220
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: they make as boxes. How do you feel about that announcement?

1221
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: And also Dana White now sort of helping him manage it.

1222
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it can only be good

1223
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: for boxing.

1224
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: I think they're looking at a whole new league system

1225
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: approach to boxing, which could be refreshing. I'm sure I

1226
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: hope that we're going to see more women's boxing included.

1227
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: It's been quite absent from read season, which has been

1228
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: quite disappointing for the women's boxing community globally.

1229
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Is that I know I didn't realize that so they

1230
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: hadn't been a lot of women.

1231
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: Fights, literally only my one fight, right, that's it. Yeah,

1232
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: on any read season, because.

1233
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: They're looking for a certain type of level, do you.

1234
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: Think I don't think that because there's big women's fights

1235
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: happening around the world and they're not being put on

1236
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 3: that platform, which has been quite disappointing.

1237
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: Well, Dani's pro women UFC fighters.

1238
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: I see that as quite a promising thing, hopefully for

1239
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: women's boxing. And I hope that their league, the TKO

1240
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: thing that they've announced, is going to include women boxing

1241
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: and women fighters, because I think women's boxing was in

1242
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: a really really good place a couple of years ago

1243
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: and it's kind of going through a little bit.

1244
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: Of a lull right now.

1245
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's an exciting time for boxing,

1246
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: but for women's boxing too, hopefully.

1247
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: So given that, and I know, as you said, I

1248
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: think the announcer it's going to be called t KO,

1249
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if DCO is going to be equivalent

1250
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: to WBC, WBO, IBF blah blah.

1251
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: Blah, seeming like that.

1252
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: And as the UFC the unified one, do you ever

1253
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: see yourself is it a dream of yours to unify

1254
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: your position.

1255
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm known as the future undisputed so on

1256
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: all the belts?

1257
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: Yes, so okay, So who would be your subject to

1258
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: what happens on Saturday? Who would be your next dream opponent?

1259
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: Well?

1260
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: I've been banging on the door of Amanda so Rano

1261
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: for two and a half years. She was the undisputed

1262
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: champion at featherweight. We got into mandatory position with the WBC.

1263
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: She vacated the belt and has shown zero interest in

1264
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: a fight with me, which is frustrating. She vacated another

1265
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: belt recently who It's now being held by a German fighter,

1266
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: Nina Minker. So there's always an option there to pick

1267
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: up a second belt in the division.

1268
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: What would so? What did you say?

1269
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: It was that w She's got the WB A w

1270
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: B A right, I think, yeah, No, she doesn't ibf.

1271
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: IBF.

1272
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: I think she's got the IBF right. Anyway, you want

1273
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 3: to have all the built So yeah, my full focus

1274
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: is on the twenty second of March and defending the

1275
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: WBC belt.

1276
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: I get it.

1277
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: But looking forward, there is a belt being held by

1278
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: a German girl. She is a southpaw as well, wow,

1279
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: which makes for an interesting for amandez Rano is also

1280
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: a southpawt Wow, I have fought I have fought many

1281
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: south pause not as a professional, only one as a professional,

1282
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: but I've fought many south paws in my one hundred

1283
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: and fifty amateur fights.

1284
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: That's a big a career, by the.

1285
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: Way, one of the biggest.

1286
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: In the world, even for a boy. That's a big

1287
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of fights. Yeah, I mean Tim Zoo had nothing

1288
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: like that. I mean Tim might not have had fifty.

1289
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: I'd say you probably had twenty twenty fights.

1290
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's huge.

1291
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: With many of your other you know, any of the

1292
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: other girls holding different in different protocols like waw IBFI,

1293
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: et cetera, they have had the same amate degrees as you.

1294
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: Not many in the world have.

1295
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: That's that's a huge ame degreer.

1296
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1297
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was so large, So that's amazing.

1298
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: I think I've probably, i think still to this day,

1299
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: I have had the most fights as a female around

1300
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 3: out of Australia, but i'd be up there and the

1301
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 3: probably at least in the top ten, but maybe even

1302
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: top five in the world. How many fights have.

1303
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: Had and what do you think that? I mean, like

1304
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: you look at costas or something like that.

1305
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: Or like three hundred and.

1306
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: Something with three hundred. When you when you say what

1307
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: is a long amateur career like or a dance a

1308
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: decreer do for a fight? Who then is it becomes

1309
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: a professional Because if everyone's just say Costa, you know,

1310
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable long aver de career in the Soviet

1311
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Union and you had to fight people from every country

1312
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: just about and then they used to say, that's that's

1313
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: his baseline, that's that's what gives him his foundation. What

1314
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: do you think your long amated career or your dance

1315
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: amate decreer gave to you, because the.

1316
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: Same thing I believe.

1317
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're you're fighting in tournaments constantly. You

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01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 3: don't have any saying who you fight. You're getting in

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: there with whoever the draw puts you with. You're fighting

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: different styles.

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Speaker 2: Day after day.

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Speaker 1: You should explain it because that's important. You just know

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: one fight and it's not.

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Speaker 3: The professionals where you do a ten week camp in

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: every day style. One person go into a tournament, you

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: weigh in that morning, you fight that afternoon, you win,

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: You weigh in again the next morning, so you fight

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Speaker 3: someone else today. Way back on, No, it's very very different,

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: and I feel like having all those fights, I've seen

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: it all.

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: I've seen.

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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: That nothing Tiara Brown could bring next on Saturday that

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 3: I haven't seen before, because I thought every kind of style, shape, size, tall,

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: skinny girls with arms longer than my legs, short, stocky,

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01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: strong girls that can punch like a mule, bolly over,

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01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: left handers, right handers, switch dancers, all of it.

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01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: I've seen it all. I've been in there with all

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Speaker 2: of them.

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: So is that a be is confidence is a really

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: important point to you, Like, does is that a confidence factor?

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01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: Is it? Or is it?

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01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: Actually? I'm confident because I built skills around having fortunes

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01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: about every style and size and whatever.

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 3: I think it definitely gives me more confidence knowing the pedigree,

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 3: knowing that I've done it all. I've been there, I've

1346
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 3: seen it. I've been in there with the best of

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: the best. I've fought Olympic champions, world champions, beat Olympic champions,

1348
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 3: world champions. I mean, my confidence mainly comes from my preparation,

1349
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 3: knowing myself, knowing I haven't taken shortcuts, knowing I've trained smart.

1350
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: That's a big thing in my team that we constantly

1351
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: talk about it's easier to overtrain than under train, and

1352
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: same with the whoop and the stats on there. We're

1353
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 3: all about training smarter rather than harder, because every fighter,

1354
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: every fighter wants to train as hard as they possibly can,

1355
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: and it's so easy to burn out, it's so easy

1356
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: to overtrain and not bring your best self. So there's

1357
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: days where I really want to train and go for

1358
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: it and I'm pulled back.

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: But I know it's for the greater good. It's that balance,

1360
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: and I feel like.

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01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 3: All of those little things, all of those one percent

1362
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: is what gives me the confidence to go into the

1363
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: fight knowing you can't beat me because I'm my best me,

1364
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: and my best me doesn't get beat.

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: The foundation of one hundred and fifty meter fights is amazing.

1366
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: And as you say, you've foward at every level Socom, Games, Olympics, State,

1367
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah world. So you have you have this

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: great foundation, which I think maybe when you get to

1369
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: the rounds, hopefully it doesn't go this far. But like

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01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: you get early, get and early, but like as you

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: get longer in the rounds and you start to get

1372
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: a bit of fatigue, that's when that foundation becomes really

1373
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: important as part from your prep your ten weeks. That

1374
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: foundation is critical. I've seen lots of fighters who haven't

1375
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: got that foundation, and they can fall apart a little bit.

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01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: Come I'm done.

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, they totally because boxing is a mind game. Are there.

1378
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: As you said earlier, you are the only person in

1379
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: the middle of that that that square and it's just you.

1380
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: Boxing's ninety percent metal.

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, the physical preparation is important, but it's when you're

1382
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: in that fight, it's ninety mental.

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: And it seems to me that you are, you know,

1384
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: like to me right now, you are mentally perfectly prepared.

1385
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: And I've seen other fighters where I mean, I interviewed

1386
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: quite a few of them last week for Fox Sports,

1387
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: and I just watched the outcomes and I know that

1388
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: they weren't really mentally ready. They were projecting mental readiness,

1389
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: so projecting readiness, but I could just tell from and

1390
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: I remember when George Cambos has walked out, walked out

1391
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: of the down the pathway thing there towards the ring

1392
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: and many Fort Lopez. There was a look in George's

1393
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: eye and I said to someone I was I was

1394
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: watching the fight. I'm Telly, and I said to someone, wow,

1395
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: he looked like he's going to win this. He just

1396
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: had a look.

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to go or the bullshit about the

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: either Tiger.

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: But he did have the look.

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: He had that look, and I'm just looking at you now.

1402
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: You're giving me that feeling. And I'm pretty good assessing

1403
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: people like I've been around a long time, so I

1404
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: don't know a lot. You're giving me that look. Do

1405
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: you feel that person? Or am I just imagining because

1406
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 1: I want to want to be the killer?

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: I feel it.

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see it. I can see the confidence

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: in you.

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01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: I think I hate to play a few cards. I

1411
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 3: think a lot of people think I put out this

1412
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: persona of confidence.

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: But it's not.

1414
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: It's not arrogance.

1415
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: It's not arrogance.

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:49,919
Speaker 3: It's it's being so self aware and having no doubts

1417
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: in everything I've done. And I know myself so well.

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: And you're not bullshitting yourself because you've got the foundations

1419
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: there to fall back on.

1420
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: If you bullshit yourself, it's only you in the ring.

1421
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 3: Like I said, you get found out, you get found out.

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: I'm not going to embarrass myself like that. He's going

1423
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 3: to let myself down. I'm not gonna let my team down.

1424
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, your country not gonna let my

1425
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: nation down. Your country is barracking.

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01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: So you wouldn't.

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 3: You wouldn't put that out there knowing deep down that

1428
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 3: you hadn't done the right things, you hadn't prepared properly.

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: You hadn't you weren't bringing your best self. You wouldn't

1430
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: put that.

1431
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: Out there, bringing your best self. For the best version

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01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: of Sky Nicholson is going to be brought on Saturday

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: Night into that ring, and.

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01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: The best version of Sky Nicholson does not get beat

1435
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: by anyone, not by Tiarra Brown, not by any featherweight female.

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: On the planet.

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Speaker 1: Well that'll do me. That's awesome, Thanks very much. Good luck.