WEBVTT - Sharri | 21 August 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:08.200 Why On Sky News This is Sharry Good Evening, Welcome 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:08.760 to the show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.680 Coming up tonight, top law enforcement officials are sounding the 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:17.479 alarm about the Albanese government's lacks vetting of Gazans. In 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:21.840 this exclusive New South Wales police are highly concerned that 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.520 her Musk supporters could put community safety at risk. That 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.840 major story coming up in a moment. Also on the 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.440 show tonight, how Tanya Plibacek Plivacek is shaping up to 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.879 be a major threat to the Prime Minister her eleventh 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.279 hour bid to shut down a gold mine the latest 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.680 controversial move. Or Andrew Caswell will be on the show 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.760 to discuss and calls for The New York Times to 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.239 suck its reporter who's behind a list of hundreds of 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:56.160 Australians being doxed? And also tonight in breaking news, Albanezi 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.920 has been slammed over an off color joke at a 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.840 private dinner that has offended farmers. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.560 Not the live export. We've made sure it was dead. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.279 More on that recording with my political panel a bit later, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.400 but first tonight, Police in New South Wales are highly 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.320 concerned the Albanese government may have given visas to Hamas 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:27.120 supporters with inadequate security vetting, risking community safety. Security sources 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.319 tell me that far more rigorous checks were done on 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.679 the very young children of Isis brides that on Palestinians 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.400 coming to Australia from a terror hotspot. So lax with 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.160 the security checks that the visas of twenty three Palestinians 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:47.440 were counseled when they were already en route to the Australia. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.200 They are now stranded in Turkey or Egypt. The Australian government, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.920 specifically Tony Burke, has washed his hounds of them. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.080 Law enforcement in New. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.080 South Wales are frustrated at what they say is a 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:06.080 lack of consultation and inadequate security checks. They see this 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:11.000 as an unacceptable risk to community safety. One senior figure 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.520 told me the last thing we need is Hamas supporters 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.480 in the community, we have a responsibility to protect the 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.880 people in New South Wales. They put the families of 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.960 foreign fighters through biggest scrutiny and those kids have done 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.520 nothing wrong and we're quite young. There were thorough background 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:35.720 and biometric checks. It's understood that counter terrorism police in 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.440 New South Wales have received no information about which individuals. 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.280 Have come from the war zone. Now. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.600 I asked Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson about this 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.880 issue and he said that all visas issued to Palestinians 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.680 in Australia need to be reviewed. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.040 So this is a hugely significant story. It's effectively a 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.000 vote of no confidence by New South Police in the 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:05.720 Albanesi government's handling of immigration, national security and community safety. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.120 And that full interview with James Patterson in reaction to 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.560 this story I'm bringing You Now is coming up later 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.959 in the show. The Coalition stepped up its political attack 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.040 on Albanizi in Parliament today accuse him, accusing him of 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.480 running what they could a visa for votes scheme. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.799 Will the Prime Minister admit that this visa for vote 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.720 scheme was only done to shore up votes in the 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.920 seats of Watson, McMahon and black slaand it doesn't these 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.440 go to his true character? 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.920 Prime Minister, Why is Australia heading out tourist visas to 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.680 gardens from the terrace controlled warzone in an average of 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.440 twenty four hours and in some cases as quickly as 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.200 one hour, while bypassing all the usual checks, including those 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.520 the former coalition government used in Syria. Will the Prime 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.080 Mister admit that the government's visa for vote scheme was 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.640 only done the shore up votes in the seats of Watson, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.080 McMahon and blacks. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:00.560 Or. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.280 The Prime Minister in turn accused Peter Dutton of being 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:10.240 a bully, and Albanezi also criticized Israel yet again as 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:11.880 is not strength. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:17.520 And punching down on vulnerable people is not strength. But 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.520 that is what this bloke does at shows Australia who 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.200 he really is every day. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.560 Now this is the second week the Prime Minister has 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:32.120 been unable to strongly defend or even explain the security 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.159 process for the visas. He hid behind the intelligence agencies 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.839 yet again, saying he has faith that they will do 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.480 their job. But this is highly misleading and it goes 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.160 to the very heart of the issue. AZEO has no 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:52.159 oversight of this process. Fast tracked visit visas are being 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.640 issued in just one hour after an online application process. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.599 AZEO and the other intelligence agencies are scrambling to play 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.560 catch up after the government deliberately decided to use visitor 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.960 visas to rush them through, and on the weekend, ed 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.839 Husick admitted the visitor visas were used because they were faster. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:16.960 Why visit of. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.000 Visas though because they're faster to process, ref G visas 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.040 take longer, and given what's happening right now and the 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.919 dangers presented, the view was to try and get people 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.560 out as quickly as you can. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.360 Well I revealed last night that many of the three 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.840 thousand visas approved for Palestinians were done through an automated 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:45.200 online process with no manual security checks. Home Affairs today 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:50.080 confirmed that almost all applications for migration and temporary visas 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.920 are lodged online, regardless of where the applicant is, and 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:59.839 this includes Palestinian applications. So Home Affairs then also claimed 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.320 that a departmental officer was involved in the process for 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:07.440 each visa. Now the Coalition asked the Prime Minister about 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.159 this today. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.039 Of the almost three thousand visas approved for people from 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.760 the terrorist controlled Guarza war zone, how many were approved 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.960 by an automated process and did not involve a referral 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:22.920 to Asia. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.880 And did not involve a referral to Asio. Well the 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.880 Prime Minister initially joked about this question he. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.200 Simply wouldn't answer it. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:36.159 Eventually, he claimed none of them were fully automated, but 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.960 he couldn't confirm that all had security checks. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:40.520 Have a listen. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.800 I decided with the involvement of departmental staff. 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.120 None are fully automated. We have dealt with this process. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.680 But you know that's not the real point of this question, 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.960 is it. It's not to get an answer, it's not 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.480 actually to get information. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.480 It's just so out and the Stoke. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.760 Division order ANTI. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.560 So he couldn't say that there was an AZIO security 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:14.120 assessment for each visa because it's just not happening. Visitor 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.960 visas are being issued through an automated online process with 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.880 no checks by ASIO. The Prime Minister keeps trying to 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.920 claim that ASIO has been involved in background checks for 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.840 the nearly three thousand Palestinians who've been given visas, but 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:34.040 the claim is simply false. The Australian's political journalist Jeff 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:38.960 Chambers also wrote today that the Australian Security Intelligence Organization 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:44.200 ASIO was drafted in only if the department requested higher 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:49.480 level assessments. In fact, most electronic visitor visas were issued 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:56.000 after an online questionnaire basically self assessment. By contrast, humanitarian 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.280 visas refugee visas that Ed Hughesick said would take too long, well, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:05.000 they would have involved extensive biometric checks, face to face 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:10.080 interviews and intelligent screening. None of that has happened in 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.320 most cases here and in further proof that the visa 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.120 process has been rushed and inadequate is the fact that 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.920 twenty three people were issued visas they were on their 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.160 way to Australia when they were canceled. The process has 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.480 been chaotic to say the least. Now, the Coalition asked 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.000 the Prime Minister why his government security assessments have been 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.359 far weaker than our Five Eyes counterparts, which have required 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.000 face to face interviews. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.400 Why have we fast tracked visas for nearly three thousand 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.280 people from the terrorists controlled Gaza war zone since October seven? 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.679 Yet our allies like the UK have taken in one 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.640 hundred and sixty eight in the United States only at seventeen. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.480 Many cropable countries require face to face interviews in third 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.040 countries or biometric tests to apply for vv conditions that 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.800 Albanese government has waived. Was this decision based on security 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.160 advice or political expediency? 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.000 Well, the Prime Minister again just wouldn't answer the question. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.360 The Albanese government is shockingly naive about the risks they're 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.400 imposing on Australians. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:21.680 It's inexplicable. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:27.640 The Australian Newspaper's editorial today makes this critical point. Egyptian 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.160 President Abdel Phatta Elsisi has warned that any mass exodus 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:37.719 of Gazans would risk bringing militants into Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.920 from where they might launch attacks on Israel, endangering the 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.440 two countries forty year peace treaty, and Jordan, with its 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.800 large Palestinian community, has been similarly reluctant to open up 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:56.040 to Gazans. So have other Arab states. That has lessons 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.559 for mister Albanesi and mister Burke as they put out 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:04.560 the welcome mat So that from The Australian's editorial, But 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:09.440 it seems Albanezi is uninterested in learning lessons from Gaza's 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:10.920 closest neighbors. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.839 He appears driven. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:18.600 By his lifelog pro Palestinian activism, activism that has seen 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:24.040 him personally as an MP protest outside the American Embassy 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.120 at a rally where Israeli and American. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.079 Flags were burnt. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.120 It's my belief that's what drives him, along with his 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.720 desire to remain in the plum job of Prime Minister, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.400 now a job he only hopes to retain if Labor 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:49.000 doesn't lose marginal seats in western Sydney. All right, James 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.840 Patterson will be on the show a little later, but 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.160 let's bring in now former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:59.200 Kroger and Labor legend Graham Richardson. Welcome to you both. Michael, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.960 having a look this and we've just learned. I've just 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:06.319 reported that senior police and law enforcement agencies in New 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:10.240 South Wales are highly concerned about the inadequacy of the 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.959 Albanese government security vetting and the lack of consultation. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.520 Do you think that the Prime Minister. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.880 Has overseen here a flawed security process. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.599 Well, there's no doubt about that. I mean, what do 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.480 you think Asia knows more than the CIA in America, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:30.680 who've got tentacles all over the world. The CIA, you know, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.720 like all security organizations, makes mistakes, but it'll know far 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.559 more about what's going on in the Middle East than 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.199 the NASO. And as you've reported, the Americans have taken 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:46.760 seventeen people, we've taken thirteen hundred. So I regret to 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.319 say I draw the same conclusion that was drawn in 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.559 the Parliament this afternoon. This was Albanisi and the former 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.000 minister Giles. Don't forget all these All these people came 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.720 here under Giles when he was the minister, this disastrous 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.080 minister who they sacked. This has been done to shore 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.360 up three labor seats in New South Wales and that 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.960 is a disgrace and shame on you Albanisi. By parting 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.440 from every other developed country in the world. And you know, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.480 from what I can see, this's only looks like seven 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.640 or eight countries now we had four last week. I 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.160 can only get to seven or eight who have taken 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.560 refugees from Gaza. Now Chechner ranks number two. It seems 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.559 to have taken two hundred in Italy one hundred and 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.280 fifty six. I'm not sure about the UK numbers in 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.439 Australia at thirteen hundred. Shame on you, elbow Richo. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.160 The coalition has really put the heat on Albanesi. Now 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.880 for a second week in a row in Parliament. Do 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.200 you think this issue is resonating with voters. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.000 Not yet, but that doesn't mean it won't. If it 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.040 continues for another week or two, then I think people 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.000 will start to take notice. I think Arbo has gotten 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.520 away with it so far, but you never get away 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.720 with it forever in this game. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:03.200 Do you think that's right, Michael, that voters don't recognize 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.600 at the moment. I think the message is getting through 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.480 to mainstream Australians. They see the aggression and violence that 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.680 we've had in our streets for months now, and they're 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.280 already worried about social cohesion, and they hear that Hamas 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.920 sympathizers might be coming into the country. They hear that 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.000 the security process is flawed. I think this would be 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:22.559 a concern. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.760 What do you think, No, Well, I think people draw 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.120 the line. I mean, you know, we all agree that 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.880 there should be a freedom to demonstrate. But over the 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.040 last number of months Australians have decided overwhelmingly, and you've 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.960 seen polls that these demonstrations of Jewish hatred have crossed 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.400 the line between what's acceptful and what's not acceptable in 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.840 the democracy. People are well attuned to this issue in 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.880 this country. Everyone's been hearing about the war in the 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.959 Middle East since October, since that disgusting attack on Jews 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.480 on October seven. This is not an issue out of 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.000 the blue, and so people are actually well attuned to 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.240 what's happening, and now they're hearing that we are such 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.200 an outlier on bringing people from guars that no other 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.040 country in the world is doing six times the next 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.199 biggest number. No, I think people are well attuned to 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.920 this issue. Certainly they are in Victoria, and even though 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.920 this state is traditionally voted labor, it's going down very 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.840 badly here. Albow has crossed the line between stretching people's 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:30.440 tolerance and belief in wanting to do the right thing, compassion, etc. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.480 But when they see that we are way beyond anyone else, 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.280 the answer is no. It's resonating big time around this country. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.760 Richard, Will the Prime Minister eventually have to properly explain 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.320 how this security process has. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:45.560 Worked or if it hasn't. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.840 Is he going to have to houn to review into 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.600 people who are already here and whether they should have 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:52.960 been issued visas? 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.840 Yeah, well, the pressure is going to be on him, 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.320 and I think the pressure will continue to rise, and 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.880 so he's going to need a circuit breaker of some kind. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.160 A review perhaps would be the answer, but something will 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.600 have to be done. He can't simply sit back and 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.080 allow things to go on as they are. Because I 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.880 think Labour's losing ground over. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.400 This all right, let's have a look at the chaos 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.720 inside the Liberal Party and two GB host Ray Hardley 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.520 launched a scathing attack on two Liberals over this embarrassing 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.440 council fiasco. He says the pair are cowardly for not 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.280 fronting up in public about this. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:33.280 Have a listen, stop sending me text messages, cowardly letting 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.720 me be your mouthpiece. Get on the air now and 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.920 tell the left of your party you've had a gutful 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.520 of them. You know who you are from the right, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:46.440 Anthony Roberts, Alistair Henskins, come on, get on here and 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.640 challenge them. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.040 And Roberts and Henskins have since that denied that they 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:57.120 were trying to undermine their leader, Mark Speakman's leadership. Michael 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.680 is a former party president yourself, you must be looking 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:05.080 at the Liberal Party in New South Wales in utter dismay. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.800 Well, obviously this was a complete stuff up and everyone 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.400 knows that. Unfortunately it happens in politics. I mean, this 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.440 was unforgivable. Obviously we all know that. That's just starting 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.360 the obvious. But you know, the New South Wales division 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.640 electorally have not had such a bad record over the years. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.960 They certainly been in government in the state a lot 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.640 more than we have, and they won more seats than 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.560 we have and most of the country, I might add, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.160 So whilst the organization's got some issues, you know, electorally, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.280 of their performance hasn't been all that bad. I might 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:41.080 add though, that I saw this guy, George Newhouse, I 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.920 think it is who's drumming up, drumming up support for 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.440 a class section. Well, is he the same Blake who 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.040 was the Labor candidate. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:54.080 For Yes, yes, yes it is. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.480 Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right. So the Blake. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.720 So any Liberal counselor who hasn't had their nomination put 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.320 in and who's quite rightly extremely aggrieved and angry about 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.200 what happened, please don't fall for the bit of falling 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:14.760 into this Blake's trap of him being a great community servant. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.400 I mean, he's a Labor Party operative and no one 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.160 should give him any any work whatsoever on this issue 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:20.880 for goodness sake. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.240 Tony Abbott of Courses us All weighed in. He says 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.040 that the Liberal Party president Don Harwin's position is untenable. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.760 Rich O, do you think he has to go? Do 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.000 you think potentially Mark Speakman also needs to accept some responsibility, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.639 seeing as he was warned that this was happening, that 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:40.600 there was chaos in this process. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.240 Well, I think the president's got to go. I don't 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.080 see any way that he can possibly survive. He and 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:53.679 Richard Schiels, I think are finished, and i'd hope that 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.160 they would see to it pretty quickly. Just go, because 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:01.280 I don't think when the whole world knows you've up mightily, 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.480 there's not much point and continuing on stubbornly pretending that 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.800 it's all okay, because it's not and it's not going 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.960 to be okay. So you know, they've got their share 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:16.919 of difficulties, and I'm delighted to see it. 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:22.480 Frankly, Now, the reason this matters, the reason this matters 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.440 is so that counsels aren't overtaken by Greens and other 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.760 radical counselors. And just to prove this point, have a 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.480 look at this social media video from a Palestinian activist. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.160 His name is hush Taya. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.320 Some of you will know who he is, and he 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.840 wants to run for Merrybick Council. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.400 Have a look when I announced that I'll be nominating 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.040 to run as a counsel of Marybick, so many Zionists, 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.520 their sympathizers and bigots wrote comments. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.920 Like running for councils about waste management, running for councils 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.119 about filling potholes. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:57.199 I do care about all that. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.360 It's always important to take the Ribish out. 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.320 And it goes on and on with content that's equally 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.679 as offensive as that. The Herald Sun reports that he 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.520 plans to run as an independent Michael. This is why 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.679 the council issue matters, so that voters do have the 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.920 option to vote for the Liberal Party, that they aren't 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.440 left with a council that's run by radicals and the. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:27.840 Greens and people like him, who, if I'm not mistaken, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.679 isn't he the same blake that was involved in a 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:36.920 number of anti Jewish demonstrations around Corfield one particular night, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.960 he was involved in one implying implying that Jewish people 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.080 might have been involved in burning down his Hamburger. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.280 Jeweys the exactly and of course that wasn't it. It 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.240 is the same guy. It wasn't the case at. 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.399 All, as police the Jews, it wasn't the Jews up, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.880 it wasn't the Jewish. What a shock, what a surprise. 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.760 So of course these council. These council elections matter, but 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:04.920 we have people like this putting his head up and 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.240 let's type the good people of that council area reject 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.960 him because he doesn't even live in the area, although. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.760 He says his business is in the area. 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.760 Day two of the Democratic National Convention, we saw Barack 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.679 Obama speak he backed in Kamala Harris while slamming Donald Trump. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.320 Have a look, here's a seventy eight year old billionaire 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.280 who has not stopped whining about his problems since he 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.320 wrote down his Golden Escalator nine years ago. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:42.680 It has been a constant stream of gripes and grievances 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.679 that's actually been getting worse now that he's afraid of 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:56.120 losing the common There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.960 this weird obsession with crowd sizes. 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.840 I mean, the convention was as much about Trump as 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:09.439 anything else, Richo, not many policies to speak of. And 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.320 on the Obamas, I got the sense that they had 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.320 hoped Michelle might run this time, but now, of course 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.600 they've thrown their full support behind Kamala. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:18.760 Well. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:23.320 I think a lot of us, me certainly, would love 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.000 to have seen her run I think she's a spectacularly 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.880 good polly. Even though she's not in politics full time, 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.560 she certainly knows how to make a speech that's very, 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.960 very political, and so I think she would have been 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.640 a tremendous candidate that having me said, I'm a fan 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.600 of Harris's. I think she's doing well. I think she'll 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.760 beat Trump, and I think she'll beat Trump comfortably, and 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.400 I think that'll there silence a lot of people who 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.520 have really i think, gone out after in a way 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.120 that I've found quite distasteful. 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.879 Well, I think in American politics, nothing's left on the table. 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:03.520 People are going after Kamala just as in just as 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.080 strong a way as they are going after Trump. But Michael, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.439 there is an issue that you know, there are concerns 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.320 about the substance and the policies behind Kamala Harris. What 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.000 is she s DOWND for, what is her policy platform? 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.320 Of course none of this has been developed because she 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.480 came to the candidacy so late in the peace. 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.359 Yeah, it's interesting watching that convention today. I think that 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:32.680 audience are just in shock, But I don't think they 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.760 can believe that Kamala Harris has been competitive and in 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.159 many polls in front of Donald Trump. I think they 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.960 all know she's pretty ordinary. She's been a hopeless vice president. 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.679 She's trying to airbrush Biden out of history, so as 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.720 she wasn't there for the last three years. I just 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:50.679 think they're totally stunned that the American public have fallen 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.760 for this sort of three card trick of you know, 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.080 it's great, isn't she laughing and smiling? It's a new era, 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.600 et cetera, et cetera. I think Trump's support is very 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.119 deep seated. There are hard Trump voters. I think a 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:08.000 lot of her support is very skin deep. And while 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.639 she's in front at the minute, there's the possibility that 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:16.160 her campaign will collapse. And what we've seen so far 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.000 is CNN, the New York Times and MSNBC protect her 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.240 from this, not giving any interviews. Can you imagine a 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.480 leader here not giving an interview for months. I mean, 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.240 you wouldn't get away with it in Australia, they've protected her. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.000 But even thoughy now are going to have to come 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.439 to the realization that she's going to have to give interviews, 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:33.680 you're going to have to debate Trump, and once she's 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.760 out there having to answer questions. I think she's in 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.160 a world of trouble because we've all seen her answer 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.840 questions in the past and it ain't pretty and it 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:41.400 ain't deep. 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.480 No, I agree, and it's also going to be fascinating 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.240 what happens with RFK Junior. I'm going to come back 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.560 to that a bit later in the show with the 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:54.359 New York Post reporter. All Right, Michael Kroger, grah and Richardson. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.680 Great to see you as always on a Wednesday. 0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:57.960