1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Bloom three sixty regular from every angle and the Blues 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: have broken the sun Corpu Doo, dominating Queensland on their 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: home turf. In the Origin open up Lory Day's men 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: head to Perth for confidence, while Billy Slater wags up 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: a selection bombshell to try and save the series. 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: It is the greatest rugby league stadium on the planet, 7 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: the Cauldron sun Corpse Stadium. 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: It's ready for Game one. 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Edward's taken too high bar and things fill over early. 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Jerry Evans, I'm across the Pontmer's player were hands to coats, 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: runs to awards, hoses beets him Mitchell. That rounds him 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: up pretty quickly. Clearing comes to us for room to 13 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: move back to clearing over the top. Edwards wide Brighton 14 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: beats homes set sail, gives it. 15 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: To Lomas a cracking New. 16 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: South Wales try Cherry Evans Ponger and a good stock 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: by Mitch Moses. 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: Not only just me, but everyone. You know, everyone's got 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: to make one on one. 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 5: You do it for the day, you know, for a 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: person next day. 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: Don't want to let anyone's down. 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: I'll stand here on this short side and fins are 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: passing him and. 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Loses the ball. 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: You feel pretty flat, to be honest about our performance. 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: A chance to try and get it to Mitchell's Moses 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: does exactly that. Mitchell got hands an incredible ball for 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: Pry and. 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 6: To We'll see what they're like when they bounce into 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 6: game too, because they're know about origin is. There's always 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: a response comes and robs the ear is clearing edwards. 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: They got them again clearing, having it off right with boots. 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: Otherwise the score line would be absolutely anything. Jerry Evans 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: four Coats up against Coats, had a chance. 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 7: Putn't hang on to it tentis in mid year. 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: You know, I think this is a professional power. 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 8: It's the worst thing I've ever seen. 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: Oh here's a chance New South Wales turn it over Coats. 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Just like that. 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: The Maromes are right back in the contest. Last tackle 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: clearing again, back to the right hand side, Lomax versus Homes. 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Clomax makes the catch out the back. Here's Watson trying 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: to keep it alive. 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: Pops it out to eight lines. 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: New South Wales Sport you look to eight changes forget too. 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 9: That's not a decision or probably a conversation. 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: For now New South Wales. 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: They've taken down Queensland in the Cauldron eighteen points to six, joining. 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Me, Gordon Tallas, James Hooper and Brent Reed the New 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: South Wales Blues going one up in game one two 53 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: good up at sun Corpse Stadium after a forty minute blitz. Gordy, 54 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: how are you feeling a little. 55 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: Bit disappointed at stages? 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 5: Like men against Boys had a bit of a feeling 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: to Game two in Melbourne last year, but New South 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: Wales were dominant, didn't probably reach the heights of felt 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: sometimes like a glorified club match, but Queensland were outplayed 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 5: all over the park. 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: I thought the. 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 8: Blues didn't have a bad player, and I thought as 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 8: clunky as they were at stages, they showed some signs 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 8: that if they can keep this group together, they can 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 8: develop into a real juggle in a real state of 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 8: origin force. 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 10: And we saw the. 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 8: Marines go on that incredible run of eighth straight series. 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 8: I'm not suggesting they can replicate or emulate that, but 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 8: I think they can actually win multiple series if they 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 8: keep this group together. 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 9: Interesting hoops, well hoops already if they can keep that 73 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 9: group together with Gordy It's tough to swallow because I 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 9: think Queens and were comprehensively our play, which is really 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 9: disappointing at sun Corps Stadium. I thought it was a 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 9: bludder of the game, to be honest, one of the 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 9: most unwatchable Origins I've seen for some time, because of 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 9: the penalties, the stoppages, the errors and you know, obviously 79 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 9: disappointing performance is a long way back for Queensland. You 80 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 9: caught it a bludder of a game. You said a 81 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 9: glorified above game? 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: Was it? 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: Because of the amount of penalties? It was a nine 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: to six penalty count. 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 10: What don't it helped break? 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 9: I mean there was penalties for things that in Origin 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 9: previous year years. I reckon they've let go When was 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 9: the last week seen fifteen penalties in the Origin game? Seriously, 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 9: And it was just it was a bit nippicky for me, 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 9: and I just think it stopped and I'm not saying 91 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 9: it would have affected the result. I mean queens are 92 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 9: second best, but it just affected the flow of the 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 9: game and it wasn't the most watchable of Origin games 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 9: for me. 95 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: What do you think? 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't feel like either side got to roll 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 5: on and had a lot momentum, Like even though New 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 5: South Wales were classy, they pulled us apart at times. 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: It didn't feel like there was a massive role on 100 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: where it could have blown out, if that makes sense. 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 5: So I didn't know the penalty count. I knew that 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: someone were a little bit soft. So when it comes 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: to that arena, we're all talking about how good Game 104 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 5: three was last year, and that's what I was expecting, 105 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: and it didn't get It was. 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: Clunky, there was no real flow in the game. But 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: I think it was obviously clear to everyone the Blues 108 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: were the far better team, and if it wasn't so 109 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: clunky and it was more free flowing, the score might 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: have been even worse for Queensland. Now you mentioned it, Hoops, 111 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you weren't happy with it. The possibility of a dynasty 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: we go is there. Listen, We're not even close. We 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: know that, really right, there's a long way to go. 114 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: We haven't even won to see series. But there's a 115 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: possibility with this team and that dominance last night. If 116 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: it continues that way for the next two games, this 117 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: side's got a pretty good nucleus to it and does 118 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: have the potential. 119 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 8: To I'm not to be silly enough breath to go 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 8: off before acceptances and declare the dynasty after the Blues 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 8: have won one game. And I would say, in relation 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 8: to Laurie Dale and his second coming cast there right, 123 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 8: I'll get there. I'll just put this caveat on it. 124 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 8: I remember Andrew for food art right tearing coinsland apart 125 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 8: at sun Corp Stadium twenty sixteen, and he drew comparisons 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 8: with Arthur Boots and New South Wales came back to Sydney, 127 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 8: led in that game and looked to have it under 128 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 8: reasonable control. Ultimately were beaten. Then they went back up 129 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 8: the sun Corp and got beaten by fifty. So I've 130 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 8: seen too many false dawns breath. However, however, if they 131 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 8: can keep this side with Latrell Mitchell and Stephen Crichton 132 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 8: in the centers, Angus Crichton and Leam Martin, the Blues 133 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 8: did not have a bad player. Mitch Barnett, I a 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 8: payhas in the middle spencer and you coming off the 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 8: back fence, off the bench. Yes they can. Yeah, well 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 8: we're going to get that. We're going to get because 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 8: I did think that was a very point. But yes, 138 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 8: if they keep the nucleus of this team together. Absolutely, 139 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 8: guy one. 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 7: It's not a row two's a pair eight. 141 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: Just let you know, don't get ahead of yourself. 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 8: Can this term chase that maybe they can? 143 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 5: Well, we have to, there's no choice how by playing 144 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 5: our style of footy. I thought, well, well, I think 145 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 5: if the ball stays and play, we're smaller, we're fitter, 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: we're faster. The big guys maybe get knocked up. Right, 147 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 5: So we didn't have a chance to play our style 148 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 5: of footy, which with Harry Grant and Munster and those 149 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: guys like that, it's a pretty good spine, right. And 150 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 5: if we move the ball around, and you know that 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: the bigger they are, if you can move them around 152 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 5: and take a bit out of the tank, and we 153 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 5: couldn't do that, it will stop start. They're fresh, they're bigger, 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: they're more powerful and they power through us. 155 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Queensland because Queensland are now 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: officially in crisis. 157 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: This is good. 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 5: Mate, that produces and he's going to get I missed 159 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: the plane. I knew I should have missed the playing. 160 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: For everyone watching this Gord, he was unaware that I 161 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: was about to happen. It took great joy in that 162 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: does he make changes? 163 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: Now? On a serious note, like I. 164 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Know that queens they wouldn't like to panic. It's not 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: a good look if you make a hell of a 166 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of changes. But do they have to make changes 167 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: walking out walking out last night? 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: I didn't think so. Right. 169 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: Where there's twenty games until our next game, twenty twenty 170 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 5: days until the next game, right, we were talking about 171 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: DC as captain, so that's going to come up. But 172 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: we've got twenty days for those guys go back, and 173 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 5: it's a Wayne Bennett saying, go back and recoup, get 174 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: some get some form under your belt, you know, and 175 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: come back in and I'll see you in the next camp. 176 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 5: Is there going to be changes? The question for me is, right, 177 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 5: who do we bring in that? Where's the Queensland jersey 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 5: that's going to change last night's result? 179 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: Well, there's a few. There's a few. 180 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, tell me, let's start with the first one, 181 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: because I think we should start. The big one is 182 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: DC and you know, Andrew John's, Cameron Smith, Shane Webke, 183 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: that's just the name of you that have questioned him 184 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: being in the team and whether he should be there 185 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: for Game two ice on Monday, I said to you, Gordy, 186 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: if they lose Game one, is that the potential that 187 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: this could be the last time we see d C 188 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: in a maro Own Jersey and if they lost, And 189 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: you said to me, it depends on how they lose. Now, 190 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't pretty and it wasn't a good watch last night. 191 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 3: Well there was that talk before. 192 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: State of Origer one and Manly played the Cowboys. Tommy 193 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 5: did and had a chance to go and shoot the 194 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: lights out against him and he didn't DC. So the 195 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 5: next couple of games is it. No one knows what 196 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: DC's doing. Is he uncertain with his future? Can he 197 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 5: clear that up and come in the camp and leaders? 198 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: That's the question. 199 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 9: I think you've seen this on his mind. His formers 200 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 9: dipped since he came out and said he was leading Manly. 201 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 9: And you can't tell me that this hasn't affected him 202 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 9: time and I think it's he's carried into camp and 203 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 9: I think he just needs to make He's got two weeks, 204 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 9: make a call, make a decision. 205 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 10: I mean, we all think he's going. 206 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: To the Rooster's Billy telling him he needed to make 207 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: the call. 208 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 9: I think Billy encourages him to make the call, but 209 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 9: ultimately he can't make him. I think he encourages him. 210 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 5: Make the call, make the call, get all the press 211 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: out of the road, so when they're gone there. 212 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 9: Because I asked about in camp, what are you doing 213 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 9: next year? And I've changed my stance on this because 214 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 9: I thought before. 215 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: At least but just back on that, at least he 216 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 5: did face the media. 217 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 10: And yeah, Spencer, and at. 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: Least he faced the media. 219 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: You are you're up face the media at least, you know, 220 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, but Spencer was waiting for the ball kick off. 221 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 8: But the other side it was very that was that 222 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 8: said a lot about the contest, the fact that there's 223 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 8: been so much built up around that. And I'd love 224 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 8: to get your take, Gordy, I have it. I can't recall. 225 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 8: I can't recall seeing that previously where a team that's 226 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 8: gone right, let's. 227 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 7: Kick it the Mexican you were playing, Gordy, if reasons, 228 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: if you reasons morely a web key or Paul having 229 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 7: coming off the fence right right earlier, you go, bang, well, 230 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: let's kick to him. 231 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: If it's the start of the game, let's see where 232 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 5: he's at. But if he's tearing through, you go let's 233 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: keep it to the other guy. 234 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: Isn't that smart? 235 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 10: Didn't he really was he he was spent to really tearing. 236 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: Why is it that bad White playing to him? 237 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: But you give him what he wants, give him love 238 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: this from you, get under his skin. 239 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 10: It was a sign of week. 240 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: It was a week. 241 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Man situation, Jonathan Thurston situation. I'll tell you why you 242 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: got the Jonathan Thurston situation the back page of the 243 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: Courier Mail saying that he's a grub, right, and you've 244 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: got your opportunity to he's in I'm just telling him 245 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: my opinion. You've got the opportunity to kick to him, 246 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: try and bash the shit out of him, and set 247 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the tone and the example for your side to say 248 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: we're going to get the better of you, no matter what. 249 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: The next playbook getting bashed anyway, well it could change 250 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: the momentum. 251 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 10: It could like why couldn't they? 252 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 8: I love putting out the Fast was the most explosive 253 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 8: player of the game. It's the most explosive carrier of 254 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 8: the game. 255 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 10: And the way it. 256 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 8: Was built up to Brad's point, the fact that it 257 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 8: was on the back page of the Courier Male and 258 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 8: then for Coeensland. They'd clearly game plan that that was 259 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 8: a tactic, that that obviously going right. When Spencer comes on, 260 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 8: let's go to the other side of. 261 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 10: The field, get under his skin. 262 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 8: To me, that's picking a fight and not showing up. 263 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: Like. 264 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: It was great theater because when he warmed up the 265 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: first time he run down the sideline, he was into 266 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: the crew. 267 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: It was so cool. It was a great theater. 268 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: And you know what would have but I had Tony 269 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: Carroll and Petro, you would have wanted to do it. 270 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 5: I knew, but maybe maybe they didn't. Maybe DC as 271 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: a captain should have the shot, right, But I'm not out. 272 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: They don't have Tony and Petro. Don't they have any 273 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: enforcers that can well maybe not. 274 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 3: Did you watch the game? 275 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 9: I did, right, So, like Corey Hawsebro, I need to 276 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 9: look at bringing bringing bringing a black like Corey hawseb 277 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 9: for game too. You know, Tino was obviously I think 278 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 9: I thought Tin I tried to be enforcement and perhaps 279 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 9: went too far at times. Tino because we missed his 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 9: aggression last year. I think we all thought this is 281 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 9: the guy who's going to stop us being bullied this year, 282 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 9: and I think he went out there to make a statement, 283 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 9: but at times maybe it went a little bit too far. 284 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 9: So you've got to get bringing someone to support him. 285 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 9: And I think Corey Hawsber is the old because you've 286 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 9: got some fire in the belly and he's not going 287 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 9: to take it backwards step. And I reckon, if Corey 288 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 9: Hawsper is out there, he's probably saying to someone kick 289 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 9: it to Spenser. 290 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 10: I'll take him on. 291 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not going. 292 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: To let you too off the whole gey, your passionate 293 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Coueenslanders defending your state. 294 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,479 Speaker 3: I love it. 295 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Should DCE be picked for Game two or not? 296 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: I pick it? 297 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 9: I was about to says there and this has changed 298 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 9: before the series. 299 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 10: I thought, I think he's there again. He's your captain, 300 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 10: he's your captain. 301 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 9: He deserves to play game two because the forward pack 302 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 9: let him down the other night. So I would pick him, yes, 303 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 9: but forward the pack was awful. I would pick it, 304 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 9: but I would say, DC, that's very clear. 305 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 10: We don't win. We're starting again. You're going, okay, this 306 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 10: is it? 307 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: Goody. 308 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: I can agree with okay, no, no, and I can go, hey, mate, 309 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: this is your last game right Because Darren Lockey got 310 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: tapped on the shoulder. 311 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: I think in six and moment inspect. 312 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: To he Petro and Stephen Price said if we don't 313 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: win this game, this is your last game. This is 314 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 5: this is your last game for Queens and maybe maybe 315 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 5: do something't say this is it? 316 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: Do you want it or not? 317 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 10: It's a huge decision though. 318 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 8: It's because as everybody likes and respects Billy Slater, and 319 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 8: he had a red hot start to his State of 320 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 8: Origin career as a coach. I think he won four 321 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 8: out of his first five games, but since then and 322 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 8: with Michael Maguire coming in last year and now the 323 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 8: result from last night, Billy's hit some challenges and if 324 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 8: he was a new South Wales coach, he'd be copping 325 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 8: a lot more heat than what he is already copying 326 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 8: north of the Border. So the decision around daily is 327 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 8: critical because if he doesn't get it right, then all 328 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 8: of a sudden, that's two series opinion. 329 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 5: Do you think didn's out and now State of Origin 330 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: number seven that can lead us to a state of 331 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 5: ogin victory. 332 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 8: Well, I listened to Joey John's Last Night and Shane 333 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 8: Webber you today and the fact that those two prepared 334 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 8: to say that they think Tommy didn't could provide more creativity, 335 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 8: spark and energy to the Marines attack. 336 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: That's good enough for me and man coming at forteen 337 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: or so well as you could possibly be coming too. 338 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: I think. 339 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I know it was late in the game, but if 340 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: you watched when tom went to half, when Harry came 341 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: back on the last five or ten minutes, it might 342 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: have a bit longer. Actually didn't was quite effective in 343 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: that position, look dangerous and more so than in DC 344 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: for that game. 345 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: It's a bit cool, to be honest with you. 346 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 8: It is a huge call, which a big because he 347 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 8: plays on the right. Tommy normally plays on the left 348 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 8: with the Cowboys, so already they're making a big call 349 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 8: that he's got to go over. 350 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 10: It's a different side of the field. They've got nothing 351 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 10: to loose because they're already well I do, but they're 352 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 10: like they're already they're expected. 353 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: Maybe to go to Perth and lose, the expected to 354 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: win this series. 355 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: He probably. 356 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 10: Thinks they can win. 357 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 9: I said, I expect the Bill is the one picking 358 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 9: the team, and he probably thinks they can win. So 359 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 9: and he probably thinks they can win with a lot 360 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 9: of the Blakes who were there the other night. 361 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that we've thought this year 362 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: that hasn't happened. Harry Grant what a player is? I 363 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: love him, great player, but I think it has to 364 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: be said last night was probably his worst performance, well 365 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: first worst forty minutes I've seen ever play, definitely in 366 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: a Queensland Jersey. I mean, let's just have a look 367 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: at this. Let's have a look at this because he 368 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: sets the scene here a little bit with Harry, and 369 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: it shows. 370 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: Us his effectiveness as a. 371 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: Bench player in origin coming off the bench as opposed 372 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: to when he starts. Now, when he starts, they have 373 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: never won. It's started four times for zero wins, and 374 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: that was last night was one of them. When he's 375 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: come off the bench in eight appearances, he's won six 376 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: of them. So that gives us an indication of how 377 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: he plays off the bench and how he plays when 378 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: he starts. 379 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: Now, let's get your thoughts on this. How did you 380 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: see it? 381 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 5: That's when Ben hunts around the ruck as well, and 382 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 5: you're playing with you know, two number nine and he's 383 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 5: coming on and there's no doubt it was an uncomfortable 384 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: night for Harry and maybe when the Sting's out of 385 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: the game. He does do some of his better work, 386 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: but I don't think you know starting him or not starting. 387 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 5: I know those stats are there, but it doesn't mean 388 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 5: Harry's not still in the game playing his best. 389 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 8: Definitely an off night by his standards, and you can 390 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 8: look at the kick when he puts across. He puts 391 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 8: a crossfield kick in on the last tackle, it ends 392 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 8: up being a seven tackle set that's ineffective. Then he 393 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 8: gets whacked by one of the Blues goun Frodada out 394 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 8: at dummy half, loses the ball. Then he tries to 395 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 8: on the last tackle when it looked as though nobody 396 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 8: else really knew what was on, he decides he wants 397 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 8: to go on his own out of dummy half. So 398 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 8: certainly by Harry's standards, I actually thought he might have 399 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 8: fell victim, like when he gave the silly penalty away 400 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 8: trying to kick it Mitch Moses with the ball. 401 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: I rekon. 402 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 8: A big focus for the Morons off the back of 403 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 8: last year was not being bullied after what happened in Melbourne, 404 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 8: and they spoke about it in the build up to 405 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 8: the game about how teenags. 406 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 10: Back our enforces back. 407 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 8: I felt as though being penalized early for grabbing Lamas 408 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 8: around the head, Harry trying to kick at the ball. 409 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 8: They were trying to assert some authority and not let 410 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 8: the Blues stand over them. 411 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 10: But at backfight, I think, remember Harry cameny of this game. 412 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 9: He don't played one game in four or five six weeks, right, 413 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 9: so he's a little bit underdone. But I also think 414 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 9: it's worth considering starting off the bench. 415 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that had nothing to do with it. I've 416 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: got my take on Harry and I watch him very closely. 417 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this kick here clearly wasn't planned. It was 418 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: a big turning point. They've got two of the best 419 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: kickers from that range in the game, DC and Monster. 420 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: But you see when Harry plays, he takes too many steps. 421 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: A lot of the time that was just a kick, 422 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: but I think he actually took the He hurt their 423 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: forwards last night too. There's a number of times where 424 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Carrigan and a few others were on the advantage line, 425 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: but he takes two or three steps, then Carrigan has 426 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: to step back and then they couldn't gain any momentum. 427 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: And a few times you notice that when Cameron and 428 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: DC got the ball. They had the new South Wales 429 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: defense in their face. What Harry needs to do is 430 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: needs to either give service straight off the ground, like 431 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: directly straight off the ground, or if he runs, he 432 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: runs and things pass later because he gets caught. 433 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: In Amen's land a little bit. 434 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: And you talk about them being out of sync and 435 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: not fluent in their attack last night, the first forty 436 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: minutes or the first twenty at least is the most critical. 437 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: And he's a great player, don't get me wrong, but 438 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I've seen this sneaking into his game the last couple 439 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: of years and it really stood out last night in 440 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: that first forty minutes, and I think it really hurt 441 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: the team. I'm not saying I don't pick him. He 442 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: needs to be in the side, but it's just what 443 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: they do and how he works on that heading into 444 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: the games down the track, so he can be a 445 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: starting nine and you don't need to worry about that. 446 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: You see, like even here, he went to get the 447 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: short side come back, and look he just gets dominated. 448 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: He jumps out, he skips across here, gives it to DC. 449 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: There's nearly a shepherd here there in no means then 450 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: either give the pass or run the board. 451 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 10: I notice breath. 452 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 8: I noticed there were stages that looked as though some 453 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 8: of his teammates were a little frustrated with the vision Monthster. 454 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 8: There is saying what's doing? And that wasn't the only instance. 455 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 8: There's some others that were having a look at the 456 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 8: game again today. 457 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: So that was obviously the plan, right, that key to 458 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: get over the top of two orward coats, that was 459 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: obviously the plan. 460 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: But it wasn't for him to execute that. And it's 461 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: okay to take that on. 462 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: If you're inform and you're confident and you're well and 463 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: he's on the front foot, but you know, he just 464 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: looks like he looked like he went away from the 465 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: game plan at times in that first forty and making 466 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: a few areas and penalties didn't help. Again, he's a 467 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: legend and I love him, and he's he's up there 468 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: in the best two or three nines in the calm. 469 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: But last night it was it was just to me, 470 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: it's stood out, should. 471 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: He start then or not. 472 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 9: I don't necessarily think he has to broth. I mean, 473 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 9: you could stick Ruben cotterr in there for maybe the 474 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 9: first twenty minutes, maybe shuffle move, move and codder off 475 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 9: the edge and play maybe a firmore or room and 476 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 9: played hooker and twenty minutes just play. 477 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: I think Billy Slater's got the direct line. 478 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: He's just pressing that jumping jumping the Dumby out for 479 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: the first twenty minutes. 480 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 10: Just jump, just jump in the Dumby ut at state 481 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 10: of origin level where you could do it. So I'm 482 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 10: just giving us some examples of what they can want. 483 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 9: Kurt Man's obviously, you can play Kurt Man as your 484 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 9: forte and potentially you could start the game and have 485 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 9: Harry Grant starting on the bench. There's a couple of 486 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 9: options there. 487 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 10: I don't mind that. I don't mind the idea kiping 488 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 10: Harry out of the firing one. 489 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 9: For we sure those stats, the stats speak for themselves, right, 490 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 9: so they've got to look at alternatives. 491 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 8: And I'm throwing a couple up there for Billy. I 492 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 8: think sometimes statistics can be like matches. They're dangerous in 493 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 8: the wrong ends. He had a bad night, no doubt, 494 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 8: but he's a superstar. 495 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 10: Harry Grant. 496 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 8: He starts for Melbourne, he starts for Australia. He'll want 497 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 8: to make amends for that performance. 498 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I didn't mean to give him 499 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: motivation there, but you know, just watching the game, to me, 500 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: it stood out to me last night. 501 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: I really did. 502 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: And again like this isn't heavy criticism of him his 503 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: performance last night. Yes, but I think if he gets 504 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: that right then the best the rest of the team 505 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: will benefit from it. 506 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 5: And six weeks ago against Manly, he pulled him apart 507 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: like a hot joke. 508 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 11: Like he was so good around the right, he's mainly 509 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 11: so Like there may be the month out, you know, 510 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 11: just not not in and around it. How many changes. 511 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 10: Already to this coinsland, So I'm curious. 512 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 9: Okay, I'd bring in Horsebro. I'd look at Cobbo, certainly, 513 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 9: look at Cobbo rather than for who I'm just trying 514 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 9: to follow Awaker, probably Cobbo, potentially Cobbo for Val. I 515 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 9: think VAL's thorn has been average here. I think he 516 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 9: made three eras the other night. I'd look at maybe Jaden's. 517 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 9: I'd start with the Jaden se or Jaden Sewer or 518 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 9: potentially both fur more on the edge. 519 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 10: If they go with my plan of Reuben. 520 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 12: On, he on, hey on, make a few into the 521 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 12: loyalty pick and stick. You've missed you missed the point 522 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 12: of that you only you're only loyal when you win. 523 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 12: We're coming off a losing series and we lost the 524 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 12: opening game again. 525 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: So when New South Wales used to lose and you'd 526 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: write articles about how we don't pick and stick and 527 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: we're unloyal and all that, when you know, I. 528 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 10: Didn't write that when you when you won, you make 529 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 10: changes after winning. Often that was your problem. 530 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Okay, you've never criticized I was making changes over the years. 531 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: So how many changes we three? 532 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: There was more than three cost many changes to the 533 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to the squad, but there's three new faces. 534 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 5: You agree with some of those American Hawns was the 535 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: American Cobo was close and we did struggle to get 536 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: some meters off the backfield so when they were kicking 537 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: like I found that we struggled with smaller bodies bringing 538 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 5: it back that we didn't get any momentum out of 539 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 5: the backfield. 540 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: And I'm sure that that. 541 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's get in the fours, they got dominated, they've got 542 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: hambled last night by New South Wales. 543 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: How can they fix that area? 544 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 8: Well, Gordi, I was going to ask you because ready 545 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 8: just mentioned Jaden Sewell, surely a player with his style 546 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 8: of aggression he's billing at this level. Previously he's played 547 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 8: in Grand finals. Do you do you think that he 548 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 8: could help in terms of because this is the first 549 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 8: set from last night and New South Wales were just 550 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 8: all through the middle. 551 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, look this first set of the match. 552 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: I don't think we like we got ourselves in the 553 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 5: right position to dominate and tackle and slow it down. 554 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 5: Tina and Mu I thought did a really good job. 555 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 5: But let's just give news. They were just too big 556 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: and too strong. Sometimes you play those games and they're 557 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: too big and too strong, and I just keep on 558 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: thinking to myself all days, who do we put in 559 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: there that stops it? 560 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: And sometimes you just can't stop it. So Linnet, they're 561 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: not getting any smaller or any slower. 562 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: You just have to fix it. 563 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 5: But they're the ones that created, so they go there 564 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: and I've got faith in these guys, right, So and 565 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 5: Tin Lindsay collins Hawse was another big body in the middle, 566 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 5: right and he's a bit mad. 567 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: So like then you look at those guys as well. 568 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: But I you know, we didn't put any pressure on, like, 569 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 5: we didn't move them around, Like as I said that, 570 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 5: we didn't move around. We didn't use our speed. So 571 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: our asset was our speed I thought out well with 572 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 5: Tavy and like in the air, we didn't get to 573 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: use it, but we got dominated that first set. That 574 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: was that was a fight club. 575 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 8: It was. 576 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: It was like hang on, very unusual for any team 577 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: off the kickoff the run fifty, you know, like it 578 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: never happens. You're not in origin, it never happened. So 579 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: were you worried when you saw that first seven. 580 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: Well, when they got over the halfway and then when 581 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 5: they kicked Normally you catch it on about the twenty 582 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: or thirty and then you're bringing them back and you're 583 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 5: getting tackled sixty meters off. 584 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: Your own tryline. But they made it. 585 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Barnett's not the like not being rid and 586 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: they disrespect. It's not the biggest front rower bringing it 587 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 5: back either, Like it's not. But it's not the biggest guy, 588 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 5: you know. But he did pick out Reuben Cotter and 589 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 5: he's not the biggest guy either. 590 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 8: You think a start of Origin often you think of 591 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 8: that famous vision of on Shane Webb and webe having 592 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 8: a fight for every millimeter to get out of that 593 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 8: in goal. Whereas last night kick off, that opening set. Yeah, 594 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 8: and that was off the opening player of the game 595 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 8: last night. 596 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 9: We didn't see that we're playing a house man handled Queensland. 597 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 9: We just didn't have an answer to him, or was Aeo. 598 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 9: To be fair, those two dominated in the middle of 599 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 9: the r so we've got to fin answer those two. 600 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 10: I don't think it was just pass three. 601 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 8: I actually thought the one thing the Blues Pack did 602 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 8: sensationally was playing as a unit. So Leam Martin didn't 603 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 8: have a lot of carries, but damn he was good 604 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 8: scrapping Angus Crochton weapon on the minutes stopped. He was 605 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 8: great stop with the football. He was absolutely brilliant. But 606 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 8: he wasn't alone either. 607 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: They hunted back three, back five like you lo Max, 608 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that later on now. The strike 609 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: or lack of it for the Maroons was a worry 610 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: pong a hammer sided and we mentioned Cobbo. Yeah, just 611 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: watching it love a couple of times we thought we 612 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: could get him on the right and you know when 613 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: the trolley can buy it in a little bit, but 614 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: we just didn't have the speed. 615 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 9: We didn't have like like you know, just a and 616 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 9: toy held the past past rather than pask he had 617 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 9: a great game, but we. 618 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 5: Did throw a forward past the valve, you know, and 619 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: there was that ball in the air. But yeah, and 620 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 5: then it was a six points and four points in 621 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 5: our last two games, so we're struggling. 622 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: To get points. Well. 623 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 5: Defense is unbelievably. You saw fel Homes get bundled over 624 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: the sideline four minutes. 625 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: Into the Would you bring Cobo and is what I'm 626 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: trying to get. 627 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 9: I think you've got I think you've got to be both. 628 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 9: As I said, I think you need a couple of changes. 629 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 9: And I think he's an obvious one, right because he's 630 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 9: a big body, he's physical and you know, I think 631 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 9: we need to. 632 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 10: Match him in that and that in that area. I 633 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 10: don't think we did it the other night. 634 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: All right, Now, you mentioned earlier hoops Billy. Is he 635 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: under a lot more pressure now heading to Perth. I 636 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: think that's quite obvious. 637 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: I think that. 638 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 8: Well, the vision after the game when they showed inside 639 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 8: the sheds and Billy was just having a moment to himself. 640 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 8: You can see the heat that That's what State of 641 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 8: Origin is. It's such an enormous juggernaut in terms of 642 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 8: the spectacle of the game and the pressure. It's as 643 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 8: high as the stakes get and it would be emotionally, 644 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 8: physically and mentally draining. And last night Billy looked like he. 645 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: Looks shocked as well. 646 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: I think you have shocked because Billy such the consummate professional. 647 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: He prepares more. 648 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Better than anyone else when he as a player now 649 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: a coach and you know, when you're sitting in the 650 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: box and watching that performance, he would have been thinking 651 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: what is going on here because they weren't even close. 652 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: But yes, it's a big job for him, So that's 653 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: a hard thing. I think if you play well and 654 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: get beaten as a coach, you probably take a lot 655 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: of positives. 656 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: Right. 657 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 5: But when in the game three last year, we couldn't 658 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: have been prouder of the way they played, right. But 659 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: I went through an era like this when New South 660 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 5: Wales were dominant. Andrew Johnson, I mortal, was wearing fourteen 661 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 5: through most of my career when I went to play 662 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: against New South Wales. Queensland just need to find a 663 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 5: way to scrap, right, We just need to find a 664 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 5: way to scrap and find a style that suits us. 665 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: And New South Wales, you know, they were big, they 666 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 5: were dominant, like they keep on coming through your front door. 667 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: But we've got to find a way to stop it. 668 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: And that's all what it is. 669 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 8: You touched on Carlen Ponger and the Hammer a moment ago, 670 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 8: does Billy possibly? The Hammer is a fullback a lot 671 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 8: of the time at club level and electric. He's an 672 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 8: X factor, he's got speed, he's dangerous. Ponges club form 673 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 8: has been flat by his standards, and I thought he 674 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 8: carried that into the Origin Arena. 675 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 10: It didn't spark him. 676 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: You know. 677 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 8: There was talk during the week that being in the 678 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 8: better company of better players that would ignite him and 679 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 8: let him light it up. 680 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 10: But I thought Carlin struggled behind. 681 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 9: If you went back to club football the next couple 682 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 9: of weeks have played really well, Kalyn, because you're right, 683 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 9: his form hasn't been great and he started the season 684 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 9: really well, but he's he's suffered as Newcastle suffered. 685 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 10: But I don't think you throw calun Palm around. I 686 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 10: think at some point Karen will turn it around.