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Speaker 1: Talking to you? Exactly? Love this, Tommy. You've lined someone up.

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Speaker 1: We don't know who it is, and we get a

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Speaker 1: Can you give us any clues in the setup for

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: So international headlines. Everyone would have seen this quite recently,

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Speaker 3: Bin Laden guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and there's a tie in to some of the

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Speaker 3: It's not Apstein, is it.

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Speaker 5: It's not Kanye Is it performing at that wedding?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's not a Next Minute guy from New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you made that much very viral.

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Speaker 4: So your job this morning is you need to probe

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Speaker 4: They are on the line now, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hey, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have you on the line. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: We don't know who you are right now, but as

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Speaker 1: we're hoping to try and work out who it is.

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Speaker 2: Set an English accent it's an Australian accent.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's got a bit of something on it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you done is your business or your success? I

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Speaker 2: Well? I do do the currently live overseas. Yes.

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 5: Are you famous for a skill that you have in

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Speaker 3: Arts have invented something?

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Speaker 1: Well not a Segway guy died, didn't he?

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Speaker 3: Can I ask what industry that you're in? Or no,

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Speaker 3: you can if you lay what industry are you in?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the space industry.

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Speaker 5: I was going to say, do you know.

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Speaker 2: I have met Elon? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Have you met?

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Speaker 3: Can I ask? Is Elon Musk the smartest man you've

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Speaker 2: He's the most cunning man I've ever met?

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Speaker 1: Have you met Jeff Bezos?

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Speaker 2: I have met Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Do you work with Jeff Bezos?

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Speaker 3: Have you been into space? I have?

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Speaker 2: What is it through?

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Speaker 3: Was it through Elon? Or was it through Jeff?

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Speaker 1: It was through Jeff, Can I have a guess?

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Speaker 3: Go for it.

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Speaker 2: My name is Chris Bossols.

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Speaker 2: It looked like a dazzling, bright, shiny, sparkling emerald. Emeralds

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Speaker 1: Can I ask the hypothetical? And I know that it

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Speaker 1: No? Aliens or other life forms, that's.

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Speaker 3: Guy's good news, so better than any mystery flight. You've

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Speaker 1: We're not giving one away on air, but the experience.

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Speaker 2: Here's my promise to you guys, is that give it

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