1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey cheeks, I'm sal and I'm 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: this is too broke chicks to show that sheares. And 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: we're sitting in slightly different seats today, which kind of 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: feels weird because today we are joined by Jake and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: ODDI from the Relatables podcast. 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Welcome guys, Hello, good to be here. Thank you for 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: having us. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to have you on because, as some 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: of you chicks may have seen, we're doing a Diabolical 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: dating Dilemmas episode where you chicks sent in your dilemmas 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: and we thought we need a male perspective, called them 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: the big Guns. 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do our best. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: It's a lot of pressure. 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 5: I feel like there is pressure like being on someone 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 5: else's pod when we're doing out things so different. 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: Before we get into our dilemmas, we like to start 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: with a life lesson of the week and it can 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: be silly, serious, whatever you like anywhere in between. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: Can we take probiotics and BALI if. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 5: You want it to meet That's kind of like hindsight 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 5: for me. 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 6: Would you like to kick us off. 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: Lesson of the Week? I reckon. It is just take 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 5: things slowly. I move way too quickly, and especially the 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: time of year we're at, and I just take a 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 5: second to appreciate what you're doing and live in the moment. 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 6: Ah, that's just a nice one. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: I like it, I'm going to say, because that was 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: like pretty good. 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 7: Damn go. 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: Off kilter or different. If you're thinking about putting your washing, 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: don't think about doing it, do it. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: Okay, that was a personal attack. 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: I do it myself always. Yeah. 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: Do you know what that is? 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: It's whenever there's something on your to do list and 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: it takes less than five minutes, do it as soon 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: as you think about it. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: Don't be like, oh yeah, i'll do that later. 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: I'll do that later, because then all of those things 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: add up and then take forty five minute it's to 44 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: do all together, and then you're like, fuck, I've got 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: no undies, swear. 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: I have a pile of washing in my room at 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: the moment. 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: That's probably the size of this coffee table, and I'm 49 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: just like looking away from it, just all of it. 50 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: When I get dressed, I just go through the pile 51 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, good. And my boyfriend today was 52 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: like if you deal with this this afternoon, I'll buy 53 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: you something on the weekend. I was like, perfect, it's 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: been sitting there for like five days. 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: My babies, my friend has been really busy, and he's like, 56 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: it's okay, don't worry, and I'm like, it's gonna start 57 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: talking soon. 58 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Like you know, there's like those kids movies where like 59 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the yeah, I'm gonna. 60 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: Start growing something. 61 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: A disease with like some sort of like new antibiotic 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: penicillin growing in there. That's not that dirty, I swear, 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: but I really need to do my washing. 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a good one. We relate to that clearly. 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: What's your life lesson? 66 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Okay, my life lesson of the week is that Glee 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: needs to come back. Maybe not necessarily like the problematic storylines, 68 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: but there was a cover that came up on my 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: TikTok that literally rewired my brain chemistry. Have you guys 70 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: seen Wicket Part one? Have you heard any of the songs? Okay, 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because the song is still a bop, 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: but this is a cover of Defying Gravity that is 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: probably going to be my number one Spotify wrapped, and 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm acknowledging that even though we're in November. 75 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, spam it. 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've literally listened to it four times to day. 77 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: The song finishes and I go another one, like literally. 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 8: Literally Okay, it's a little line typical particularly. 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: More comment. 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 9: That's because they didn't cover could have said pitch perfect. 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 7: I love this. Okay, that is amazing. 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: I love people that right. 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: Well, so. 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I think you put headphones on and put it all 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: the way up I could see. 86 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: Because I can't hear. 87 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: We've tried before. Oh yeah, so we oh yeah, we 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: have a couple of songs there. But we've tried on 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: the podcast, like actually putting effort into when it comes 90 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: out of If I'm doing it while it's coming out, 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: I think it. 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: Sounds good and then you listen back. Didn't we all 93 00:04:59,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: do that? 94 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: We were like seven years old and we had like 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: the recording feature on our Nokia and we were like, yeah, 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: this is going to hit and then you listen back 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: and you just quietly delete it and. 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: You'll let my mind a little microphone that I could 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: plug into my radio, and I did it with Let's 100 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: Get Loud by Jennifer Lopez. It's a hard song, sore, 101 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: I know, like clearly it's and I really thought like 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: I killed it, and then I listened back and it 103 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: was like. 104 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: That's like every video of us in karaoke. I'm like, 105 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: fucking crushed it. Then I watched a video back. I'm like, 106 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: don't ever let that see. 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: The light of day. And we were like, how sweaty 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 4: was I? 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Anyway, that's my life lesson. 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: We need to bring Glee covers back. Okay, yeah, not 111 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: pitch perfect. I like to hit that home. No fucking 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 4: what's it called a cappella? 113 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 9: Yeah? 114 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 7: A cappella is my biggest X of all time. 115 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: I hate it all right. 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: My life lesson of the week is actually a study 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: that I saw and apparently our adolescence lasts into our thirties. 118 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll take that and run with it. 119 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was sinking, because I was like, 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, how well I was gonna say this to you, 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: but maybe you guys don't feel like this now we 122 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: say that I'm just a thirty year old teenage girl. Yeah, well, 123 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, that actually makes sense. So in this new study, 124 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: they found that the brain goes through five distinct phases 125 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: in life, with key turning points at ages nine thirty two, 126 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: sixty six, and eighty three, and the brain is constantly 127 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: changing in response to new knowledge and experience. But the 128 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: research shows that it isn't like one smooth pattern from. 129 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 6: Birth to death. So that clocks over at thirty two. 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the adolescence period is from age nine to thirty two, 131 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: and this phase is the brain's only period when it's 132 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: network of neurons gets more efficient, and that's when we peak. 133 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: So from thirty two to sixty six, this is the 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: brain's like longest period of stability, but it is when 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: we start to see some of those declines. 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: So basically it's all downhill after thirty two. 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 7: Yeah. 138 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: Cool, great life lessons out. Thanks for that one. 139 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 140 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, But also I wanted for any of the chicks 141 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: who are still in their twenties and you feel like 142 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: a teenage girl. 143 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 7: Maybe that's why. 144 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, or if the guy you're dating, yeah, age boy. 145 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 6: Okay, we'll speaking. Oh, should we get into our dilemmas? 146 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 6: Get it? 147 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: Okay, We've got a few different dilemmas sent in by 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: the chicks and I'll read them out and then we 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: can all like throw our two cents in. Should you 150 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: date your friends? So there's this boy that I've liked 151 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: for a couple of months now. Let's call him Reese. 152 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: We're in a band together, with him on the keyboard 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: and me alternating between singing and playing the drum. 154 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's Staisy Jones and the seats. 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love that she's like multi talented. We 156 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: text every day, multiple times a day, and it honestly 157 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: feels really flirty from both sides. Also, he's really caring 158 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: and funny and smart. And yeah, I've been working up 159 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: the courage, Dad, Yeah, I've been working up the courage 160 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: to ask Reese out for weeks now, until he texted 161 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: me a few days ago to tell me he lacks 162 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: another girl. 163 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 6: Let's call her Angie. 164 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: To prefers, I'm friends with her, and she's an Angie. 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: There's always an Angie to preface. I'm friends with her 166 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: and she's absolutely amazing. However, Reese and Angie have never 167 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: talked and honestly don't even know each other. Reese has 168 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: asked me to play wing woman because he knows I'm 169 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: friends with her, But what he doesn't know is that 170 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: Angie already knows I like him, and she also likes 171 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: someone else. So there's virtually no chance of them ever 172 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: dating because she wouldn't do that to me, and honestly, 173 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: he's just not her type. I really value my friendship 174 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: with Reese because he makes me feel safe enough to 175 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: talk about the things that keep me up at night, 176 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: and he feels the same about me, but also because 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: our personalities and humor line up so well, which is 178 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: why I like him so much. 179 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I got a Oh my god, I'm 180 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 6: not a bad bye usher. 181 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: I want him to be happy, but also I don't 182 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: want to lead him on, considering a relationship with Angie 183 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: is not likely to happen. I also feel like if 184 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: I did tell him, I would have to explain my 185 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: own feelings to him, even though I know he doesn't 186 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: feel the same, and I'm really scared that I'm going 187 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: to ruin the friendship. I really need some help here 188 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: because I have absolutely no idea what to do in 189 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: this situation. 190 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 6: Should I tell him the truth? 191 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: This is such a good one. 192 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I literally feel like this was like ripped from 193 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: some like BookTalk right romance? 194 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's break down the characters. Did she share her name? 195 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 6: No? 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Lily? Okay, so we've got Lily and. 197 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Then Lily likes Reese, but Reese likes Angie, but Angie 198 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: likes Billy. 199 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: And Angie knows that Angie knows that Lily likes. 200 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: Reese, and that Reese likes Angie. 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: Well, Lily said she doesn't want to ruin the friendship. 202 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 5: There isn't really a friendship there because she likes him 203 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: already friends with someone. 204 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: He's not your friend, he's your crush. 205 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, and like that's already gone because he's view 206 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 5: him in a different light to me. 207 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a good point because as well, like 208 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: when she's talking to him, she's not really talking to 209 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: him as a friend. 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 5: She's like, I want to kiss him. 211 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you slide down. 212 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: I guess, Like how important is this band to her? 213 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: The next Weetwood Mac or not you prefer. 214 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: To like, you know, yes, bottle it up and watch 215 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: him end up dating someone else and then still stay 216 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: in the same band. And yeah, I guess you just 217 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: have to look at it as like, go for it, 218 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: but you actually be willing to lose the band and 219 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: lose a friend. 220 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: Do you think there's a universe where she can tell 221 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: him And he's like, I'm so sorry, I don't feel 222 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: the same way and the friendship can continue. 223 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: There is a universe out there. I just don't know if. 224 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: It's really Have either of you ever experienced this. 225 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 6: From either side? 226 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well we like. 227 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: To say too it seems harsh, but don't ship where 228 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 5: you eat. That's like what we look by. And like 229 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: Jake said, if you don't care about the band, go 230 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 5: for it, get closure if you're wrong. But I think 231 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. If the band means that much to 232 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 5: you and your friendship, probably just leave it and I 233 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: don't know, look into different interests. 234 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, I feel like the band has to 235 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: be kind of gone because you're tortured if you don't 236 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: do anything about it. 237 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: But could get good material, true, make a really good song. 238 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: Let's bring it back? 239 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: Or is it like looking to be a job? 240 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? 241 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: I think if you're exactly what you're saying, if you're 242 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: really serious about the band, you might just have to 243 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: like put it aside. But when you really like someone, 244 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: that's you need to like go and find someone else 245 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: to like. You need to find a new crush and 246 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: like as safe as this person makes you feel, if 247 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: you're not going to act on it because you're like, no, 248 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: the band's my priority. Stop texting him to like help 249 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: you with that. 250 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: That sort of dope for me and from him him, 251 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: even though he doesn't realize he's given. 252 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: Is it bad that I still kind of wanted to 253 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: tell him. I kind of wanted to tell him. 254 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 255 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: I also agree with the don't shoot where you eat. 256 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: I say, don't fuck your colleagues, your like roommates, or 257 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: your friends, or even people that live in the same 258 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: building as you. 259 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 6: That's a no go. 260 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of floors, Yeah, I've done that. Don't 261 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: do it. It's really awkward. 262 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 5: How many floors we're talking? 263 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, it's really great. 264 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 4: When you get in the lift and you're like, I 265 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: look fucking ugly. 266 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: When you look good, that's worse. 267 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, don't look for you anymore. 268 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 269 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: Have you guys been in this type of situation? 270 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: I'm not a friends to lover his pun. 271 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it didn't end well. And this is like 272 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 3: a high school thing, so it's you know, steakes are 273 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: very very low at this point. 274 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: But I think I know one girl I do that 275 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: has done like a well. Friends we were all in 276 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: a friendship group and then they got together and I 277 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: think the I swear they're like the only couple that 278 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: comes to mind that I'm like that actually worked out, 279 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: so like it can happen, but the odds are not 280 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: ever in your think. 281 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: You should think about the other people in the band. 282 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: True, what the. 283 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 5: People like, Literally, Daisy Jones and the six ye fine 284 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: fall in love? They don't, and then everyone's like, this 285 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 5: is so awkward, but put face. 286 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, everyone else is collateral damage. 287 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: Literally. 288 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: I think she should tell Angie. 289 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: I think she should go to her friend and be like, look, 290 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: he's mentioned this to me because it's her friend. Her 291 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: friend knows that she likes him, so she would be like, 292 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: what do I do? And then obviously she knows that 293 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: her friend like some now, so then Angie might be like, 294 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: I'll tell him that I'm not. 295 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: Keen, and then potentially she can shoot her shot. But 296 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: it depends, like what you're saying, if there. 297 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: Be just tell his own shot. 298 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a bit of an air. 299 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: Okay, new dilemma. Oh, this is a good one. This 300 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: is a good one for your opinion. Okay, do you 301 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: guys have siblings? What do you have? 302 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: I got one older, four younger, holy divorced parents and stepparents. 303 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 6: Okay, brothers, sisters, everything? 304 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 305 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 6: Okay, all right? Did I read this one? Is that one? 306 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 307 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 6: Okay? 308 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: Okay? 309 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: Can I date my brother's friend? A few years ago, 310 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: I was out one night in my hometown with some friends. 311 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: I started talking to this guy. We clicked straight away 312 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: and got on really well as an I went on 313 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: and after quite a few drinks, he asked if I 314 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: wanted to go back to his place. I said yes, 315 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: and I ended up spending the night with him. We 316 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: swapped socials and kept chatting afterwards. Then one day I 317 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: got a message from him saying, hey, your last name 318 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: sounds familiar. I didn't think much of it at first 319 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: because my last name is pretty common, but then he 320 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: sent another message asking is your brother dot dot dot 321 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: my brother's name. He then sent a picture of him 322 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: and my brother playing rugby together. My stomach dropped. I 323 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: got hit with instant anxiety. He followed up by saying 324 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: he knew my brother because they played rugby together. That's 325 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: when I completely panicked and just stopped talking to him 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: all together and have never seen him since. As I 327 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: have been avoiding going out in my hometown. 328 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,119 Speaker 6: Should I have ghosted him? 329 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: Oh, so she ghosted him, but does she like him? 330 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 6: It sounds like it. 331 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: It sounds but she was okay, she's like avoiding it 332 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: because she likes him, but she wants to message him. 333 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: But she's like, can I date my brother's friend? 334 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: So you had an answer to this before we even 335 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: read out. 336 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, go, you know what you're gonna say. 337 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 5: It brings up a great argument in a sense of no, 338 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: you shouldn't. But also the argument is, say Jake, for example, 339 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 5: he was single and I had a sister. No better 340 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 5: person to date my sister. But also it's weird. Yeah, 341 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: and if it doesn't work out, it's like, well, this 342 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: is just awkward now. So it's kind of like what 343 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: I his intentions? And because it started from a one 344 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: night stand no and rugby, Rugby's a weird vibe in 345 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 5: a sense of they're probably not that good mates, but 346 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: they're just like, I don't know, acquaintances. 347 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be all the more reason to go 348 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: forward if they're just acquainted. 349 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: But talk to your brother first. I reckon and see 350 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 5: how close you are. 351 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: I think they are acquaintance, but do you reckon? 352 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:46,119 Speaker 1: Her brother's gonna go like you like in the team yeah, things. 353 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: That you never know what I can tell you right now. 354 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: I happened to usk. We'd probably just be if one 355 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: of our friends of my sister. I wouldn't get mad, 356 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: but I would just be like what I would be, 357 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't get mad. Yeah, I'd be mad at 358 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: both of them. I'd be like, what do you guys doing? 359 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Dishonor on you dish on your calk? 360 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: What are you guys doing? 361 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 5: What the comms like beforehand? I feel like you get 362 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: there last name like, yeah, she said, the. 363 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 6: Last name is common comment. Yeahs. 364 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 4: Also they met on a night out. 365 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm not there being like and how do you spell that? 366 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Socials the next day? 367 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 368 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: I wish we had more details of that. 369 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 6: Looks good. 370 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: I kind of think that made the right decision. Yeah, 371 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: everything you don't know. You know, the sex could have 372 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: been great. Yes, I had great conversations on that particular 373 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: night out. Yes, but you actually don't know him. You know, 374 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: it's like you could have a little crush. Everyone has 375 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: like a little crush on the people they sleep with 376 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: because it's like an intimate moment. But you know, if 377 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen again, you're not Yeah, this could easily 378 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: be this isn't the one that got away. 379 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: Do you think that she should have sent I love that. 380 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: Do you think that she should have sent a message 381 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: just like, hey, you're in my brother's rugby team. I 382 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: think he would be weird about it, so like, let's 383 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: wrap it up here, or do you think it's okay 384 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: that she just goes to him? 385 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: Well, that would have been the most mature thing to do. 386 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: But at the same time, the same message, Yeah, the 387 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: exact same message. 388 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 5: I don't think she doesn't know him anything in a 389 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 5: sense of it was a one night stand. Yeah, like 390 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: you can do whatever you want. 391 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: It sounds like he kind of had a bit of 392 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: a panic too as well, being like are you do 393 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: it again? 394 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, when it's one am you message him. 395 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't make him hotter? 396 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, if you suck him again, can you please tell 397 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 10: us feed me? 398 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 6: Because that's another thing. It's also she doesn't want to 399 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 6: go out in her hometown. 400 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, New Year's this is definitely happening again. 401 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know what it's now, there's tension there, now, 402 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: tension there, you know what's sexy tension? 403 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: So big one. 404 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: Fuck for small towns too, Like yeah, and stuff, just rugby, footy, soccer, whatever, 405 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 5: and there's not that many people. 406 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: It's the same. 407 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: What is that three degrees of separation between every single person, 408 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: it's one degree. 409 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 2: You go out and you see the same people every 410 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: time you go out. It's not like. My girlfriend grew 411 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: up in Sydney and she said that she's very rarely 412 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: seen the same person. 413 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 414 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: Wow, where we live, it's every week in the same place. 415 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: Same place, same people. Well, I want to know what 416 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: happens next. 417 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: I reckon it'll happen again. 418 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 6: I reckon judgment. 419 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 11: If it does, it's kind of hot live and then 420 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 11: like and then like they'll be kissing in like a 421 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 11: dark corner in the bar, and then her brother will 422 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 11: walk and he'll be like. 423 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: Get off my sea stuff. And then she'll be like, stop, 424 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: it's not what it looks like. And then he will 425 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 4: fight the brother and then they'll get married. Great, I've 426 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 4: already written a book to a story here. Why okay, 427 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: we'll do one more quick. 428 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: One one of my best friends was in an on again, 429 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: off again relationship for about a year. 430 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: Each time they broke up, it was because of the bloke. 431 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: He said a. 432 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: Couple times that he was still in love with his 433 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: ex and a couple times said that he wasn't emotionally 434 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: ready to be with my friend. 435 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: When he would then want to get back. 436 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: Together with my friend. He was extremely emotionally manipulative. The 437 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: examples of this would need a trigger warning so have 438 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: not shared fair, but she liked him so much she 439 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: would eventually take him back each time despite my advice. 440 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Throughout this period, I was extremely critical of this in 441 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: quotes man and was naturally telling my friend to fuck 442 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: him off as she could do better. I even got 443 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: to the point of saying I refuse to ever meet 444 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: this guy, even if they stayed together, as I saw 445 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: the effect he was having on her well being and 446 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: it was not good. Noting there are a lot of 447 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: things this man has done and some behaviors that are 448 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: completely unacceptable, but I can't share you to the nature 449 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: of these behaviors and being respectful to my friend, I 450 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: kind of love that from her loyalty. Fast forward and 451 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: they have now been steady for about ten months and 452 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: my friend wants me to meet him. To be honest, 453 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: she seems extremely happy now. I told her I was 454 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: apprehensive about meeting him, as I've made my opinion very clear, 455 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: and this naturally upset her. I know she's gonna ask 456 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: me again soon. So do I need to suck it 457 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: up and put a smile on my face because she's 458 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: happy at the moment? Can I hold firm to my opinions? 459 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 9: Help me? 460 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: She's my best mate, so I never want to lose her, 461 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: But I also don't want to lie and pretend I'm 462 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: stoked that she's in love with the guy. Thoughts, feelings, 463 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: advice would be greatly appreciated. 464 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: OK, is so relatable. Yeah, you don't want to lose 465 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: a mate? 466 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 467 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: Also is it your place? 468 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 469 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 6: What would you do? 470 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: Have you ever hated a mate's partner? Are they still 471 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: with them? 472 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 6: No? 473 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: No, that would have been juicy. 474 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: We've spoken about it fair a bit lately, how it's 475 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: it's pretty surface level or men's friendships. I feel like 476 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: it was the one time where our friend group had 477 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: like a very emotional like moment and it was an 478 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: unhealthy way to do it. And really, I feel really 479 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: bad for the friend that was dating the person that 480 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: everyone disliked. We all had a pretty valid reason to 481 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: dislike her, But at the same time, no one sat 482 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: him down and was like, like this friend that she's 483 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: very open about it, Like no one was really open 484 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: about it until one night, just like I guess the 485 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: group chat just kind of blew up and everyone just 486 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: went for it. And then after the fact, I think 487 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: it was Boddie, maybe one other person went actually had 488 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: dinner with him and spoke to him. But it kind 489 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: of from then on, I would say the friendship group 490 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: was a little had a bit of a rift. It 491 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: was never the same. 492 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of like put a barrier in place 493 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 5: in the sense of he didn't think he could be 494 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: himself or talk to his partner around us whilst they're 495 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: still together. With this one though, I feel like what 496 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 5: she left out maybe alludes to the fact that she 497 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 5: shouldn't support it because we don't know the details of 498 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 5: how toxic it is, because there's a fine line between 499 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: someone you don't like and someone doing really bad things. Yeah, 500 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 5: and only she will know that. 501 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think on exactly on that note though, 502 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: sometimes though, you do have to be because for example, 503 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: like Saul has hated someone that I've dated, right, so 504 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: then I just started lying to her. So like this 505 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 1: was years and years and years ago, and that was 506 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: really really yuck. Like I hated doing that, and it 507 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: kind of built that like kind of the opposite to 508 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: your experience, but both extremely valid. Was by not being 509 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: honest with each other, we could kind of feel that 510 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, why is this weird, little gray, 511 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: foggy cloud in the middle. And my experience also not 512 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: like emotionally abusive or anything like that. 513 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: It was not. 514 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: They just kind of sucked right, But it was like, 515 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't want you to feel like you can't talk 516 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: to me about things that are hard, or you don't 517 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: want me to be there for you, or like like 518 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm at the end of the day, I'm still your friend. 519 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: I'm still gonna be there for you if you need me. 520 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: And so by saying I hate him, I like don't 521 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: support this, you potentially not one hundred percent, but potentially 522 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: introduce a situation that in those moments where he is 523 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: being an absolute horrible person, she might not come to 524 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: you because she feels like she can't and she might 525 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: hear like I told you so well, blah blah blah. 526 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: I think there's a happy middle ground between the two. 527 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: Potentially not happy, but like middle ground. 528 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 5: You're still there to support if something. 529 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: Do you think it's worth that if she does ask, 530 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: she's like, Okay, look, I just want to say, like 531 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: the reason I said no before was because of X 532 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: y Z. However, I am so happy for you and 533 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: genuinely want this relationship to work and want you to 534 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: be happy. So I will do this, but like, please 535 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: know that, like like maybe my. 536 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: Feelings haven't changed or I do. I'll be going into. 537 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: It with some reservations and I just want to be 538 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 3: open and honest, but I will do my best life. 539 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the best thing to do. 540 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: Can you meet him in a group? 541 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 542 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: Can you meet him in a group atmosphere? 543 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: How many chances do you give? 544 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 6: Like, well, she's never met this guy? 545 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing, so with the friend, you don't 546 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: want to lose the friend. Yeah, there's some pretty bad manipulation, 547 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: like emotional manipulation going into it. So you don't want 548 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: to let make it known, like you don't want her 549 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: to feel alone. But at the same time, I'm lucky 550 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: I've never actually been in like this exact situation. But like, 551 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: how many times can you see your friend get so 552 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: hurt and go back to the same person. That's I 553 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: guess up to the individual of how many times you 554 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: can witness it. I have no idea. I'd have no 555 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: judgment if you stayed forever or you did cut around. 556 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: I have no judgment either way. Yeah, and wanting to 557 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: be there for and stuff. But that's you know where 558 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: my question. 559 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: I have a friend like this, But I was like, 560 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: I really hated her boyfriend. You know, I was always 561 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: there if something bad happened, like if she wanted to 562 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: rant about something. 563 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: But then one time we had. 564 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: A fight because we were sitting on the couch and 565 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: she was telling me about some really like cute thing 566 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: he did, and I kind of was like, it was like, yeah, 567 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: give us nothing, Like I was like, okay, cool, yeah, 568 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: and then she was like, well, you don't want to 569 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: talk about it. 570 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: I was like, I've told you I don't support like 571 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: him that. 572 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm happy you're happy and all of that, 573 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily support this relationship due to these behaviors. 574 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: But I'm always here for you, and that's like And 575 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: we ended up having a row about it. 576 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: But then after that, like she was like, okay, fine, 577 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: and guess what they broke up exactly. So if not 578 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: you have that guiding line, what's meant to be, will 579 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: be and hopefully as well. 580 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: You can lead a horse to water, but you can't 581 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: make it drink. There's only so much you can do 582 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: for your friends. 583 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: And like wearing that and a responsibility will also put 584 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: a massive drain in your relationship. 585 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, dump him. 586 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 3: Honestly, communication is key. I think we've learned from literally 587 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: all of these examples. However, you can take that into 588 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: this scenario. 589 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 6: But thank you guys. 590 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 7: So much for care for having it. 591 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: Like genuinely incredible advice, and I'm so glad that we 592 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 3: were able to have you on if you guys do 593 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: a lot of dos and you have an incredible podcast yourself. 594 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 6: So for any of the chicks, where can they find 595 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: you both? 596 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 5: Just relatables on Spotify, instant and TikTok. Simple as that. 597 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 598 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us. We had so 599 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 4: much fun. I want to talk forever. 600 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: We have to get you on ours, Yeah, let's do it. 601 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, thank you chicks for having us in your 602 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: ear Hurles. 603 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 6: We love to be here, Love your chicks. 604 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: Bye bye.