WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 20 June

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Life. Thank you, Cherry,

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<v Speaker 1>having a good weekend. Welcome to Thursday Night. Lots to

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<v Speaker 1>get to this evening, but first something a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we'll get to the nuclear stuff and all that

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, but of course I'll talk about cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living a lot on the show, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>why because it's the number one concern for people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a number one concern for people that are living right

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge, and it feels like it just gets

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<v Speaker 1>tough for each and every week. And in fact, as

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<v Speaker 1>we've constantly shown you, we try to find different ways

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you the story every now and then. But

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<v Speaker 1>according to the financial monitor website Finder, seventy seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Australians are living in some sort of financial stress

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. That puts it right into the extreme world.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I wanted to focus on tonight is in

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<v Speaker 1>fact what I just jumped over then, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>Australians love giving to charity, but we can't give as

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<v Speaker 1>much as we'd like because of what's happening in our

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<v Speaker 1>own financial circumstances. And of course, right now, as we

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<v Speaker 1>move towards the shortest day of the year, and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the cold of winter is fully upon us. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing, of course, if your entire business is

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<v Speaker 1>built around how cold things can be, like say the snowfields,

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<v Speaker 1>where thankfully there's been some falls both in Yucipwhals and

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<v Speaker 1>in Victoria, which is a nice stunt for those who

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<v Speaker 1>like to go skiing, but more importantly the businesses that

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<v Speaker 1>are affected. For everyone else, it's just rug up and

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<v Speaker 1>you know the experience, regardless of whether you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee in Melbourne or taking the dog for a walk

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever's going on in your life. It's cold. For

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<v Speaker 1>the people who live in the slightly more northern states,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the opportunity to wear that one fancy jumper that

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<v Speaker 1>you only wear a couple of times a year, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're all wearing them right now. But there is a

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<v Speaker 1>group of people that we have to think about during

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<v Speaker 1>the coldest time of the year, and that is the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have no roof over the head, those who

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<v Speaker 1>live amongst us who have nowhere else to go. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the profile of the people that are homeless in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>has changed since the government came to power and since

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living became the burning issue. There are people

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<v Speaker 1>who have jobs who are homeless. There are people who

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<v Speaker 1>do their best to try to hold out of the

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<v Speaker 1>rental market, but because there's so many other people going

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<v Speaker 1>for increasingly expensive and increasingly rare properties for rent, they

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<v Speaker 1>end up homeless. In fact, about one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand people in Australia on any one night sleep rough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the biggest number that has ever been the case

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. We've had prime ministers come and go of

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<v Speaker 1>all political stripes to say they're going to do something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Tonight, some of the wealthiest people in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>the CEOs amongst us, are doing the CEO sleep Out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great initiative. I've been part of it

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<v Speaker 1>and done live shows from it. But more importantly, these

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<v Speaker 1>are people who head up businesses all over the country

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<v Speaker 1>and they will sleep rough. Like those one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two thousand people, they have the warmth of knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that they slept well last night and they'll sleep well

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<v Speaker 1>again tomorrow night. But if any CEO sleep out, it

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<v Speaker 1>raises an awful lot of about fifteen hundred CEOs will

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<v Speaker 1>be involved at sites all around the country. Tonight, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to the Vinie's website if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>donate to the cause in general or one person in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to raise about eight million dollars. They've currently

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<v Speaker 1>got about seven million dollars coming from about thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand different people. And all of that's great, and often

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<v Speaker 1>there is this annual focus from the media about homelessness

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<v Speaker 1>through the lens of this CEO's sleepout. It's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll cross to it again live later in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are images that are not as famous that

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<v Speaker 1>are an example of the working poor having to literally

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<v Speaker 1>go and get food donations. This was a recent photo

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<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne on just an average night of a number

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<v Speaker 1>of people who were lined up almost around the block

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<v Speaker 1>to get a handout of food. As I've told you before,

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<v Speaker 1>about three point seven million people in Australia living a

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<v Speaker 1>thing called food insecurity. That means they have gone without

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<v Speaker 1>meals at least one day in the week. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge number. Here's a group of people that I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're also lining up for food in Sydney. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't start with this to depress everyone or to go

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<v Speaker 1>over old ground, but for those of us that are

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable enough to sleep warmly tonight. We must think of

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<v Speaker 1>those who will not be sleeping warmly tonight or tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>or next week or the week after. We must put

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on governments for them to care. And if we can,

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<v Speaker 1>we should give to charities. But as I said, Australians

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<v Speaker 1>would love to keep giving, but because we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough at times for ourselves, it means we are giving less.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a focus of an interesting report today in

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<v Speaker 1>the Sydney Morning Herald. Well they say that the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living crisis is driving Australians to the nation's charities,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's forced up to eighty percent of people to

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<v Speaker 1>cut the amount of money that they are giving the

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<v Speaker 1>welfare organizations. So put, simply, more people than ever before

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<v Speaker 1>are needing help from a charity, but the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>people who can give money to charity is going down fast.

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<v Speaker 1>As part of a broad survey which was carried out

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<v Speaker 1>about attitudes towards charity done by the University of Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight percent of people say they've reduced their donations

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<v Speaker 1>because of the cost of living crisis. Sixty one percent

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<v Speaker 1>say they still believed it was important for them to

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<v Speaker 1>have social impact through donations despite the pressures on their

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<v Speaker 1>own finances. So at a time when again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news that there's poor people, but there's more of

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<v Speaker 1>them than ever before. I'm not breaking news that there

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<v Speaker 1>is working poor, but there are more of them than

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<v Speaker 1>ever before. I'm not breaking news about homelessness, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>more of it than ever before. But the help that

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<v Speaker 1>these people get is only through the good will of others.

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<v Speaker 1>We are entirely indebted in this country to the people

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<v Speaker 1>who work in any form of charity, be it people

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<v Speaker 1>who are at the cold face giving meals, to the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are helping out in the soup kitchens, to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are giving out toys, to the people

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<v Speaker 1>who sponsor kids in poorer parts of the country. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter what you do, if you are any of those people,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you from the bottom of our

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<v Speaker 1>collective heart from those of us who always say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I should give, but tomorrow, no tonight, right, do it

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<v Speaker 1>by a CEO, sleep out, do it by food Bank again.

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<v Speaker 1>Food Bank is one of those charities that just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>on going all day, every day, just like Vinie's, just

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<v Speaker 1>like the Salvos, just like the kids helpline, and so

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<v Speaker 1>many others, and so often when I highlight one cause,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many generous people watching this program that when

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<v Speaker 1>I ask for your help, you're coming drives. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that cause tonight. Instead, it is a general call

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us for what we can to give

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<v Speaker 1>the charity. But in this time of need, the one

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<v Speaker 1>group who does have the money is the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>But amazingly, the organizations that are handing out food to

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<v Speaker 1>those people that we showed you before, well they asked

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<v Speaker 1>in the last federal budget for forty five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to come from the federal government to help boost what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. However, they got knocked back. The federal government

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<v Speaker 1>said no, no extra money, No extra forty five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and can we show the photos of the people

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<v Speaker 1>again in Melbourne. No extra money to help these people.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that say about a country that is washing

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<v Speaker 1>around in more taxation revenue than ever before, a government

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<v Speaker 1>that it claims you should vote for them because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a budget surplus, they couldn't possibly find forty five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars to help the people who need the help

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But of course this government does have specifically

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<v Speaker 1>forty five million dollars that could have gone to the

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<v Speaker 1>food banks. But that's how much they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>spending on themselves, on marketing themselves. Repeat. Food banks wanted

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<v Speaker 1>forty five million dollars, but Labor is spending forty five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars on telling you about its future Made in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia program. It's nothing to educate the public about how

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<v Speaker 1>they can apply for the grants. Instead, it's just forty

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars of taxpayers money to shove a brand

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<v Speaker 1>into your consciousness. This is on top of forty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on ads that you're probably seeing, hearing or a

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<v Speaker 1>sick of now about the Stage three tax cuts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the too little, too late that's not going to change

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's lives, especially the poorest amongst us. Life is about priorities,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't fix all the problems all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't make homelessness go away just like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing we can definitely do is that when a

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<v Speaker 1>charity comes begging for money from a government, a government

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<v Speaker 1>that claims to have more money than it knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to spend in a federal budget surplus that's got forty

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars to tell you about a program that

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<v Speaker 1>you have nothing to do with, and another forty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to tell you about tax cuts that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to apply for. It shows that their priorities are

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<v Speaker 1>all about the politics, not about taking care of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who desperately need the help. Now now, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that generally speaking, when we raise issues, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with some sort of a solution for the issues,

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<v Speaker 1>because then we all feel better that the thing we

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<v Speaker 1>raised as a problem is going to get better. My

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<v Speaker 1>appeal is to anyone with access or power to talking

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<v Speaker 1>to those who are making the decisions. Ask them, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't you find more money for charity? Now? Why do

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<v Speaker 1>so many Australians have to donate to make things better? Now? Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with the tax system that says if you're

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<v Speaker 1>lucky enough and you work hard enough, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain number, then they take more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more until eventually they take half. And I'm fine

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<v Speaker 1>if that has a many care system and that has

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<v Speaker 1>a defense system, but it also should have a social

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<v Speaker 1>safety there. The social safety net is broken if a

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<v Speaker 1>government that is so rich with hundreds of billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in revenue that they can't crack off forty five

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars to help the people who are queuing for

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<v Speaker 1>food right now. Instead, the priority is their own political survival.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that every time you see those ads and

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<v Speaker 1>where the money should really be going. You may have

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<v Speaker 1>noticed the media is slightly freaking out. In the past

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. Opposition leader Peter Dutton insists Australians will

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<v Speaker 1>know the cost of his nuclear power plan before the

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<v Speaker 1>next election.

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<v Speaker 2>Liftgo.

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<v Speaker 3>Locals have spent the day weighing up a jobs boom

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<v Speaker 3>if a nuclear reactor is built in their backyard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of two New South Wales town's key to

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton's power plan.

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<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton is defending his decision not to release details

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<v Speaker 5>of what his nuclear power plan will cost.

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<v Speaker 6>He says he wants information out in bite sized bits.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Of course, there was no such pressure on the

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<v Speaker 1>Labour Party when it came to their costings. When it

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<v Speaker 1>came to renewables. Remember there was an entire election in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen when Bill Shorten just said, oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the expense if we don't do it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at the last election there was modeling which produced two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five dollars power price reductions that of

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<v Speaker 1>course changed according to the government, so now they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to honor that promise. Instead they're papering over it

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty five dollars a month credits which go to

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<v Speaker 1>every mansion and one bedroom house in the country. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course that wasn't just the only outrage that the

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<v Speaker 1>media had about the latest position from Peter Duddon, because

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<v Speaker 1>what scares them more than anything else is the comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>relationship they have with the government that they like, that

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<v Speaker 1>gives them all of the information that they want, that

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking does them more favors than a conservative government would.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course there's a freak out when anyone talks

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<v Speaker 1>about cutting immigration, even though both sides of politics have

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<v Speaker 1>told us they're going to cut immigration. Apparently Peter Dudden

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<v Speaker 1>was the one they had to freak out about because

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<v Speaker 1>his cuts were going to go deeper. Remember lefty Laura

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<v Speaker 1>ti Ingle, who of course is able to now completely

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<v Speaker 1>be objective in her observations of Peter Dutton's nucular policy.

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<v Speaker 7>We are a.

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<v Speaker 8>Racist countryl its face that we always have been at

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<v Speaker 8>is very depressing, but to give a license like that

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<v Speaker 8>I find profoundly depressing and a terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Prospect for the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the freak out of the OsO white

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<v Speaker 1>lefty bubble of which she lives in and applauds her

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<v Speaker 1>and gives her gigs and gives her rewards. There was

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<v Speaker 1>this fantasy that apparently when Peter Dutton turned around and

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<v Speaker 1>said that we should have a ban on foreign buyers

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the country for a couple of years when

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes prime minister, or should he become prime minister

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<v Speaker 1>at this election or perhaps the next one, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. Well, of course that was going to cause

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<v Speaker 1>racial division in the streets, wasn't it, Laura for a major.

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<v Speaker 8>Polt the colly that us be saying, as Nicky says,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, everything that's going.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong in this country is because of my grants. And

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<v Speaker 2>I had flaship people turning out to try to read

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<v Speaker 2>a property or at an auction, and if they look

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<v Speaker 2>a bit different, what I need to find different as

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<v Speaker 2>basically has given them license.

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<v Speaker 1>The abused just media bubble fantasies. But of course to

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<v Speaker 1>call her out wasn't helpful to her or to the ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>or to the national debate again. What freaked them out?

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<v Speaker 1>This promise from Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 4>We believe that by rebalancing the migration program and taking

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<v Speaker 4>decisive action on the housing crisis, the Coalition can free

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<v Speaker 4>up almost forty thousand additional homes in the first year.

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<v Speaker 4>We will implement a two year ban on foreign investors

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<v Speaker 4>and temporary residents purchasing existing homes in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that, of course, was about six weeks ago. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the time machine and roll forward six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Six weeks there we Australian politics distracted on this, distracted

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Let's talk about this, let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Change the subject. Wasn't the budget amazing? Oh that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone forgot the budget? Isn't a terrible All right, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this idea. You've got that idea justintra ardern was

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<v Speaker 1>long gone. But immigration, Chinese popp in and you get

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<v Speaker 1>it right, Lots has happened in the past six months

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<v Speaker 1>a six weeks. Well, guess what's also happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>past six weeks. The Australian public agrees with what Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Duddin had to say about foreign buyers, specifically Chinese buyers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before you think this is some sort of right wing

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<v Speaker 1>thing tank that produced a horribly dog whistling racist commentary,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes from the far right wing institution known as

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Technology in Sydney. Anyone who knows this

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<v Speaker 1>institution knows, oh it is urso work. Anyone who knows

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<v Speaker 1>its media program knows, oh wow, even Radio National is

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<v Speaker 1>a little too right wing for them. But anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 1>read eighty three percent repeat, eighty three percent of Australians

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<v Speaker 1>believe the government should restrict the amount of investment in

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<v Speaker 1>residential real estate that has permitted from Chinese investors. Bang oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but my confern is that when somebody looks different, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>going to start turning on them in auctions. No, they

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<v Speaker 1>just want people here to be able to compete for

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<v Speaker 1>their own real estate, and not investors representing money overseas,

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<v Speaker 1>not people from China who've had kids here, but people

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<v Speaker 1>representing the people whose money is all completely coming from overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from the University of Technology, Sydney's Australia China

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<v Speaker 1>Relations Institute. So hardly again, big right wing think tank.

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<v Speaker 1>A clear majority eighty percent of Australians agree with the

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<v Speaker 1>statement that foreign buyers from China drive up housing prices,

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<v Speaker 1>a seven point increase from the seventy three percent same

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<v Speaker 1>time last year, and basically where we were at the

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<v Speaker 1>height of the pandemic when things were going particularly crazy

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty and twenty one, when it was eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people. Meantime, just under three quarters of people

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<v Speaker 1>seventy four percent. So the Chinese investors have negatively affected

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<v Speaker 1>the rental market for residential real estate in Australia, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a four year high on that survey. So two

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<v Speaker 1>things to learn here. Every time the lefty media, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>freaks out about any policy don't takes that will apparently

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<v Speaker 1>turn Australians on each other and start fisty cuffs in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, it's not true. Remember his position when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to the Voice was he was backing no when

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<v Speaker 1>it was forty percent of the poles. It ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being sixty percent of the Poles. Their fantasy that this

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<v Speaker 1>would somehow drive people to some sort of riot at

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<v Speaker 1>an auction, well guess what it's where eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian public is, particularly with investors coming from China.

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<v Speaker 1>Will it be the same for nuclear power? We'll all

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn together. But if the lefties are losing it,

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<v Speaker 1>then probably Dutton is on the right path, which brings us,

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<v Speaker 1>of course to some exclusive footage that we have for

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<v Speaker 1>you this se eveving. I don't know if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get the little bug thing to say exclusive Outdare or

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<v Speaker 1>the breaking news thing, but I don't know. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, the Prime Minister gets onto a plane

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently he's nicknamed after his dog called Toto. Oh, Toto,

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<v Speaker 1>so amazing. Did you know that he grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>social single parent. Oh, it's such an incredible story. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've actually got some footage from inside Toto one, the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister's plane when the announcement was made that Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton was going all in on nuclear power. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>roll the tape exclusive? I love that movie leak two

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<v Speaker 1>Flying Eyes awesome. Now an example of the freak out

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<v Speaker 1>once they were able to put the tie on. Was

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff in the past couple of days?

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<v Speaker 4>Nuclear energy is toxic, it's risky, it's more expensive, and

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<v Speaker 4>it is decades and decades away, doesn't make economic sense,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a massive distraction from this renewal energy transformation.

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<v Speaker 5>It might be the dumbest policy ever put forward by

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<v Speaker 5>a major political party. It is the worst combination of

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<v Speaker 5>economic and ideological stupidity.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that inner voice again? Any excuse? I promise that's

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<v Speaker 1>it for tonight, But still I like it. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>about this one from Albow was talking with KG earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done to our camera people for getting in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with the PM and having him as the b interview today.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a look at this claim coming from the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister about what nucular energy is such a terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The coalition's nuclear fantasy will hamper price falls for a

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<v Speaker 1>more renewable energy. So hang on, hang on, Peter Dunton's

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<v Speaker 1>now the reason why we're not going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and seventy five dollars Now, hang on. Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dunton is opposite leader and can have whatever policy that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants in the Australian people will vote on it

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this year or early next year.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. But right now, the law of

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<v Speaker 1>the land is the Labor Party's policy with the Greens

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<v Speaker 1>help in the Senate. They are the ones who are

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<v Speaker 1>putting tens of billions of dollars, frankly, hundreds of billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars into the system that used to work pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well to the one that fingers Cross will work into

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<v Speaker 1>the future, with even more money to come after that.

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<v Speaker 1>And supposedly we were going to see power bills remember

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<v Speaker 1>down by twoenty twenty five, by two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars. But now the reason that won't happen is

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<v Speaker 1>because Peddy Dutton has disrupted the certainty. Well, no, the

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<v Speaker 1>certainty only gets busted if the Australian people endorse the policy,

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<v Speaker 1>if they give him enough votes in the lower House

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<v Speaker 1>to get it to happen, and a path through the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate to make it happen. So WA's the spin here

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<v Speaker 1>from the Prime Minister trying to pretend that the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy's policy that is not the law of the land

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason why your policy that is the law

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<v Speaker 1>of the land won't do what you promised it would

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<v Speaker 1>do when you were the opposition leader.

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<v Speaker 9>That's how you reduce prices by increasing supply, offering the

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<v Speaker 9>business community the certainty that they've been asking for.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what we have done again. If you

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<v Speaker 1>Australian people decide to keep on this path, they will

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<v Speaker 1>re elect the government, the idea of nuclear power will

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<v Speaker 1>not happen, and all of the certainty that's being demanded,

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<v Speaker 1>including an awful lot of money from the taxpayer, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the certainty. Instead, the other guy comes up with the

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<v Speaker 1>policy in a democracy, and it's the reason why your

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<v Speaker 1>policy doesn't work. Pull the other one. But this, of

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<v Speaker 1>course would see most of the media and not actually

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<v Speaker 1>call him out on that lie. Why because they're the

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<v Speaker 1>same people who haven't called him out on the two

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five lie. One because they think, oh, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars that's only going to be twelve months

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five dollars increments for one year. That solves

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, doesn't it. No, the promise was the power

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<v Speaker 1>bill from May would come down by two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five dollars by twenty twenty five and it would

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<v Speaker 1>stay that low. Right now, I know they're not making

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<v Speaker 1>promises about two thousand and thirty five and forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>But the promise in two thousand and twenty five was

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<v Speaker 1>that it was naturally coming down by two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five dollars. But you and I both know it

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<v Speaker 1>went up by hundreds of dollars, and even if it

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<v Speaker 1>slightly comes down, it's still way about where it was

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<v Speaker 1>in May of twenty twenty two. The other thing here,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, I don't know how it's going to politically

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<v Speaker 1>work out, but you constantly hear people talk about the CSIRO. Well, okay, cool, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the CSIRO has put out a report which does say

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<v Speaker 1>what the certain cost may be about putting in mid

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<v Speaker 1>or large scale nuclear reactors. Okay, not pretending that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case. In fact, let me read directly here, building

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<v Speaker 1>a large scale nuclear power planted in Australia would cost

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<v Speaker 1>at least eight point five billion dollars, take fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver, and produce electricity roughly twice the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>renewable sources. From the country's leading scientific institution. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they found. Okay, cool, Again, not pretending, not faking the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>just showing you the day so we can have our

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<v Speaker 1>opinion on top of it. Trying to arm you with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the discussions that you can have inside around

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<v Speaker 1>a heater if you can afford it over this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, all of the same people who

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<v Speaker 1>constantly point to the CSIRO as the ultimate authority on

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<v Speaker 1>how expensive this technology is. All failed to miss is

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<v Speaker 1>that the CSIRO has also told us what the actual

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<v Speaker 1>cost of the renewable revolution is going to be. So

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<v Speaker 1>remember eight point five billion dollars for the nuclear reactor.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay for the one power plant. Now, I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>showed you a document many many times since twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>that said the cost of renewables was going to cost

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<v Speaker 1>one t trillion dollars. Well, the CSIRO, now that they're

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<v Speaker 1>all on board, and we've got to get that talking

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<v Speaker 1>point off the table. But still they did their sums

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<v Speaker 1>and they came up with a new number, the Bowen

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<v Speaker 1>and Albow and the certainty greens plan. Let's have a look.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll now cost five hundred billion dollars. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>great at maths. Building a large goal nuclear reactor would

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<v Speaker 1>cost eight point five billion dollars. The current estimate from

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<v Speaker 1>the CSIRO for a full transition to renewables is five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred b for billion dollars repeat, building the renewables, changing

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<v Speaker 1>the transmission lines, building the batteries, five hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>CSIRO numbers this year, same report this year would say

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<v Speaker 1>that if you had seven nuclear power plants that would

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<v Speaker 1>cost sixty billion dollars. Now, obviously some other upgrades would

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<v Speaker 1>have to happen. So let's say one hundred let's say

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred billion dollars. That's still three hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>lower than the renewable number. Yet nobody seems to point

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Again, I'm showing you the numbers from the CSIRO. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's imagine that there was again a huge cost blowout

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred billion dollars or two hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still below the five hundred billion. But I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the smart alecks to turn around and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hang on, you forgot the indices on page seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty six, because seven hundred and twenty six shows

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<v Speaker 1>that we can make it up as we go along.

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<v Speaker 1>If one of the talking points of the left is

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<v Speaker 1>you can't build it because it's too expensive, well the

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<v Speaker 1>one they're building is more expensive. And also in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of how all of this gets funded. Oh but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a private sector that will spend most of that five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred billion. Paul, okay, so what about the taxpayer money

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<v Speaker 1>again costing about sixty billion dollars to build all of

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<v Speaker 1>those power plants that petted upon wants versus the sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two billion dollars that is currently off budget in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way they funded the NBN, which is exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that they would fund the nuclear power plants.

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<v Speaker 1>Is exactly the pocket of money that Chris Bowen has

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<v Speaker 1>to go off and do deal after deal after deal

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<v Speaker 1>after deal. And as you know, there's been plenty of

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>peop that have noticed the response that has come from

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>labor MPs near and far, and no doubt the left

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>wing media analysts will turn around and say, well, hang on,

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you were fine with the memes in the twenty nineteen election,

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and you were fine with the no campaign. What's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with a little bit of a creative meming from the

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>left like the three eyed blinky Bill. Well, of course,

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you can make your point however you want to. The

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>only problem is is that what was it that this

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<v Speaker 1>government said about what they believed to be clearly misleading information.

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<v Speaker 5>Misinformation, misinformation, misinformation.

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<v Speaker 9>The misinformation which is there so misinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>And that of course is about to be illegal on

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the Internet by the very government that is pushing the

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>misinformation about the policy, both its costs and its consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happens politically, but enjoy the debates

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. Remember the numbers CSOO five hundred billion dollars

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>for the renewables, sixty billion dollars up it to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred if you want see how that conversation goes this weekend. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some big news for you, and I want

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to get into some detail here about, of course, the

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>American presidential election. Now, most people, if you ask them

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to think, oh, well, Trump's going to win. Why because this.

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<v Speaker 10>Brand new poll from Iowa showing that President Trump is

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<v Speaker 10>leading Biden now fifty percent to thirty two percent.

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 9>Donald Trumps showing in these polls that he continues to

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<v Speaker 9>hold an advantage over President Joe Biden.

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 7>New Wall Street Journal survey shows mister Trump leading in

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 7>six battleground states.

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 10>New polling from the New York Times shows it isn't

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<v Speaker 10>hurting him in key battleground states.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the case most of the times anyone's

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.719
<v Speaker 1>ever talked about poles Trump is winning. I've been more

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.919
<v Speaker 1>than happy with that result for the obvious of reasons. Also,

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>if you have a look at a thing called the

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>real politics, real clear politics, average, which puts together all

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of the polls in the swing states, and they do

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. Yet they believe that Trump is winning according

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<v Speaker 1>to those polls just in Wisconsin, but a pretty big

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>margin in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Carolina, North Carolina, Nevada, and

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>again just in front in Michigan. Now, let's imagine if

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Biden wins two of those seats or states, but Trump

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>won all the rest, then Trump would of course be

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the president. Well, there is a change. It does not

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>fill me with great joy to tell you, but I

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 1>want you to do with facts and not wake up

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>like a Hillary Clinton support going well, one of two

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>outcomes could happen. This is the latest national poll from

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News.

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<v Speaker 9>President Biden gets his best resolved this election cycle in

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 9>the head to head against former President Donald Trump. He

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 9>leads fifty to forty eight. That is within the margin

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 9>of error. President Biden hasn't been ahead of former President

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 9>Trump in the poll since October twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, interestingly, when you have a look at the five

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>way race, because remember it's not just two names on

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>the ballot. There's Kennedy, there's a whole bunch of other ones. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>According to this, Biden would win by one point. Now again,

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not about what the national race is because you

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>know clearly Trump leads in Texas by a massive margin

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and he loses in California by a big number. So

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it's all about those swing states. We need to see

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>swing states. Polly currently good for Trump, but the issues

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>are also pretty good for Donald Trump. Right now, again

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>more from the Fox News poll. So, if the election

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>is about the issues that are strong for Biden, Biden wins.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>If the issues are the ones that Trump is strong on,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wins.

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<v Speaker 11>Well.

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<v Speaker 10>Biden leads on the democracy issue by six points. Trump

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 10>leads on immigration by nine Republicans slamming yesterday's executive orders

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 10>shielding half a million undocumented spouses from deportation as mass amnesty.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 10>On the economy, Trump has a five point lead a

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<v Speaker 10>opping sixty eight percent of registered voters feel its condition

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 10>is only fair or poor. Forty one percent report they're

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 10>falling behind in their personal finances, and Biden's approval rating

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 10>is deep underwater. On the economy, inflation, immigration, and the

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 10>Israel Hamas war.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>So Fox News polling headline national number, Biden has taken

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the lead. We are a week and a bit away

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>from the first presidential debate, which of course will be

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the next turning point in the race. Is it where

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Biden starts to get up and over Trump and we

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>see what happened in twenty twenty happen again, or this

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>is a blip. Who cares? Look at the states, look

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>at the issues. Trump is still in the lead. We'll

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>all learn together. But one thing that is absolutely freaking

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>out the left black voters, because they are supposed to

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>always vote democratic. Right, Remember what did Joe Biden say,

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Well,

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a few people who are aren't going.

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<v Speaker 7>To They keep looking for science that this is going

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<v Speaker 7>to go back to normal, and I don't see it

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 7>yet in the polling of anything.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Right now, we're careening.

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<v Speaker 7>Towards a historic performance for Republican presidential candidate, the likes

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<v Speaker 7>of which we have not seen in six decades. Look

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 7>at black voters under the age of fifty. Holy cow, folks,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 7>Holy cow, look at us. Joe Biden was up by

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 7>eighty points among this back at this point in twenty twenty.

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 7>Look at where that margin has careem down towards. It's

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 7>now just get this thirty seven points.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see here? Which pole will they believe? Of course,

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the White House have said we don't believe any of

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the poles except for the one where we're winning. We're

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>in a secure on Paul Murray Live, looking forward to

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the debate and who is the winner and loser of

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the week. We'll get to it next alright, know sook

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>snow Lefties Thursday night here, just the way you like it.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to the people at the Seeo sleep out

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit later and hopefully raise some money for them.

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>You can always send me an email Paul at skynews

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>dot com dot are you, and a reminder we're going

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to be McGregor in Brisbane, not this but next Sunday.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to join us for ourtown, send me

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>an email which is our town at skynews dot com

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.400
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0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that one our town or one word at skynews dot

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>com dot A. You come on, Brizzie. You know how

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>much I love Queensland and I'd love to hang out

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.239
<v Speaker 1>with you, so apply. It's pretty easy, it's free. We'll

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>let most people in. Just no looney lefties and you

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>can enjoin us next Sunday again, none of that here

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>with Henry Pike and Christin Abram. I'd love to see

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you both. Of course, we've got Henry of course, the

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>liberal MP, and well the libertarian lovely one from Melbourne

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>in Kristin. So let's talk here about nuclear all right now, Christian,

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start with you. What do you think

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>about the nature of the chat that we're starting to

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>have here because the left is either freaking out saying,

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like the premiere of Victoria, we're all going to die,

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>or it's really really expensive, even though the really expensive

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>bit is what we're currently doing.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I thought it was interesting about the CSII that

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 12>you mentioned before, Paul. But one thing that I'm actually

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 12>really surprised about is I struggle to see a difference

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 12>between Blue and raided for the last couple of years,

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 12>and they've drawn a clear line in the sand that

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 12>there is a difference in policies for the first time

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 12>in a while. So I'm actually happy to hear that

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<v Speaker 12>in terms of nuclear energy. As a libertarian, we've been

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 12>saying that every option has to be on the table

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 12>when we're talking about having reliable energy sources. For Australia

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 12>and ensuring that we have low energy prices. So I'm

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 12>glad that we're having a mature conversation about this for

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 12>the first time in a really long time. But one

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 12>thing that has surprised me in the last twenty four

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 12>hours I've heard the Labor Party come out with I

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 12>hate to say the word, but a little bit of misinformation. Well,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 12>I was wondering, do you have E. I know, do

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 12>you have E Karran's number, because I'd like to give

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 12>her a call. I think there's some stuff she can

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 12>be doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, Henry, exactly the same thing I

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>was thinking when they're out and about the three ifici

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of it. Right, And look again,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it's always easy to say no to something then put

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the idea a little in, an idea that is apparently controversial,

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but it is hilarious what Labor is willing to do

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to argue against the policy. Now. Of course, what they

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>do is they move around cost arguments. Right, they'll talk

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>about the cost once it's built, not the cost of

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>building it, and you can't dare compare that to where

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it is. But what about the p in today saying

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that we're basically the renewable power. The price drop because

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of renewables won't be able to be achieved because of

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>what the opposition leader's policy is.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul is a genius of making the scapegoat, isn't he.

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 3>It's quite unbelievable. I've never quite seen a prime minister

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>try to clean their hands of any responsibility for their

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 3>own policy failures like this prime minister has been able

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 3>to do. But it's really been quite remarkable to see

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 3>the lefts have a massive meltdown over this announcement yesterday.

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 3>But ultimately, when you look at the people complaining about

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 3>these safety issues that are apparently there with nuclear technology,

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>these are the same people who are one hundred percent

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 3>behind the Orchest Agreement and signing our sailors up to

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>be in close quarters with nuclear reactors. So it's complete madness.

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 3>I've been out knocked on doors in my electorate today

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and i can tell you that I'd be very pleased

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>to take to an election the idea of looking forward

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 3>to what's actually in our national best interest and having

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 3>a proper fully fledged debate along over due debate on

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>nuclear power. I think the average austrained punter is going

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 3>to be well and truly up for the challenge of

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 3>having that debate, and I think they're going to come

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 3>down on the side of Peter Dutton on this one.

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Now. Of course, if we don't play a scare every

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes from the Prime Minister on this issue, they

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>could take away our broadcasting license. So please, this is

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>just a fantasy.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Instead of snow White and the seven dwarves, this is

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton and the seven nuclear reactors.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, Now the idiots who claim who are part

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>of a doomsday cult. And these are normally the people

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that used to bark at train stations and you'd walk

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>past them. But these are now the people who think,

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't think the world's end fast enough, you don't

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>understand the world is ending fast enough. We've already gone

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>past the tipping point when it comes to climate change.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>So we can do whatever we want to raise this issue,

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>including these idiots who decided to spray Stone Hinge in

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the past day or so. Now again, Henry, I don't

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>get how this is supposed to convince anyone. Like I

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>thought they'd learnt their line, they'd learned they'd gone too far.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>When the snooker thing, just you know, when just all

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>the traffic interruption, This is all ahead of course the

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>summer solstice, the longest day of the year, which is

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>dawning as we speak in the UK, and lots of

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>people turn up there, I don't know, pray to the druids,

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>good luck to them. But who was supposed to be

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>convinced by this, Like, who's a hardcore sort of you know,

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>cold chomping person who thinks it's all bullshit. But somehow

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it's going to wake up and see this and go, well,

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you, you've made my point.

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, no one is going to be convinced by this

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 3>at all, Paul. It's it's absolutely clear, no one. You know,

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 3>this is complete madness. Whether it's spraying paintlets Stonehenge, whether

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 3>it's destroying all those wonderful pieces of art across Europe

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 3>that we've been seeing, it's complete madness. But it's not

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 3>about trying to get an outcome. They've given up on that.

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 3>They're not interested in actually getting an outcome. They don't

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.280
<v Speaker 3>want resolutions to any of these problems. They're just about

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 3>moral grandstanding.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>That's all this is.

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 3>It's trying to build a notoriety for themselves and their organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no hope at all from them about trying to

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<v Speaker 3>change an outcome here. It's just purely about self indulgence.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I apologize to everyone for swearing. Of course, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's my big life vision is to try to

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<v Speaker 1>cut back on it on the telly right now, alas

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to anyway. Now, Kristen, let's talk

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>here about again this level of activism, right and there

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>is this fine line between frankly, showing your commitment to

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a cause, showing your willingness to change public opinion. But

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>then there's this particular vein of it, and it exists

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>at the moment in amongst these doomsday cults around the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the world, in the environment or on issues

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the Middle East. Unless you're marching with them,

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<v Speaker 1>than you are the enemy, which seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit against the whole concept of democracy, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that you convince people over time. We have a vote

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>every now and then you move forward or you move backward,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it goes.

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<v Speaker 12>But they don't want that, Paul. They want the attention,

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 12>they want the moral high round. They want to be

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<v Speaker 12>the people that are going to save us from ourselves

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 12>and our future. That's going to happen, But in actual

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 12>fact they are doing that in the process of ruining

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 12>our history.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that.

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<v Speaker 12>I have absolutely no idea how people will go. Yes,

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 12>that's the cause I want to get involved with, by

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 12>ruining one of the wonders of the world. Like, it's

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 12>just ridiculous and honestly, like, hats off to those two

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 12>people that were, you know, trying to pull them away,

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 12>because it shows that society wouldn't just stand there and

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 12>take it. So hats off to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that feeling too, henry. Where Again, nobody's

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>going for mob justice because again, if I don't say that,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>then we're off to the cleaners and blah blah blah.

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>But the idea that normal people go, no, sorry, right,

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>this is a collective is this. We all kind of

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>own this, whether we travel to it or not. And

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't get to screw with this just because you

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>want to get yourself on the telly.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree, and hats off to those people who intervened.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 3>But we should all be trying to intervene, whether it's

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>in workplace, whether it's in you know, I had a

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 3>few people down here, who glued themselves to a zebra

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 3>crossing in George Street when I was walking past. We

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 3>should all be trying to intervene to say, hey, this

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 3>is ludicrous. You know, enough's enough. Perhaps a bit of

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 3>public shaming is the only way these people will learn

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<v Speaker 3>their lesson. I doubt it. They really They thrive off

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 3>that notoriety and that attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. So let's talk about the Fox

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.720
<v Speaker 1>News pole. The Fox News poll shows that Joe Biden

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>is in front first time since the election began. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course this is post Trump convictions all the rest

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of it. It's one pole, it's one point, it's national,

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not all of those caveats. But again, Kristen, I

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want people to wake up in Trump world in

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the way that they did in the Hillary world in sixteen,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>which is you've got to see what's happening. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to see where the data goes. We've got a debate

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in a weekend of its time next Friday, eleven am

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>here on sky News. Looking forward to all of that,

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing something fun with Rita panehe In and around

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 1>all of that, you'll see that at skynews dot com

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>dot au. But all of those people who look at

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>this all day every day say that it's getting tighter.

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>What's your sense again of the media that you absorb.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Has anything changed or is this just a whole collection

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of people starting to look twice or as the lefty

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>media say, a whole bunch of people starting to realize

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that democracy is on the line.

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.479
<v Speaker 12>Look, it could be all of the above, it could

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 12>be none of it. I don't know how accurate that

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 12>pole is going to be. But I really only have

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 12>two things to say about this, and one is Trump

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 12>and Biden the best America has to offer. And two,

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<v Speaker 12>God help us all if Biden or Albo and or

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 12>Albo get re elected, because they're both week leaders and

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 12>that shows weakness in the Western world.

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>So well, don't forget to key Starmer whill be doing

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the same sitting pretty for about ten years in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Look again, Henry, it's not about a Trump Raley. It's

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>just about being realistic about the numbers. Again, there's a

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>amateur American political observer, like we all are. What's your

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>sense of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it will be closer than people realize, But

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 3>there's lots of twists and turns. You know that November

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 3>is a long time away. There's going to be you know,

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be entertaining. There's going to be lots

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of things to watch over the next little while, including

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 3>next week's debate.

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:50.240
<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't put.

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<v Speaker 3>It past Biden to sneak up from behind and sniff

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>out of victory.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well again, issues are here. As we've said before,

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>if the democracy thing or abortion issues, they start to

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>move to the front. But that immigration issue is relentless.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the horrific story involving the thirteen year old girl.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>If you're not across it, I'm not going to give

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>too many gross details, but horrific stuff happening New York

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Little and the mum of five, who, of course, has

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>been murdered by an illegal an illegal immigrant into the country.

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>American politics. Also very interesting that they deliberately the left

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>will not use the term illegal immigration. They just say

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>immigration as if it's all the same thing, as if

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>filling out the forms and waiting for the green card

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>is the same as the bloke going through the rear

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>grand who happens to buy the way come from China.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why this is happening at the moment,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>but there seems to be a lot of it at

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the moment. All right, got less than a minute here,

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>so Henry, your winner or loser of the week please.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I think the winner has to be Peter Dutton for

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 3>planning the flag on the nuclear issue and drawing a

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 3>clear line in the sand. And I think the loser

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>of the week is those Palestinian protesters who've got heckled

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>back from the stage by Jerry Seinfeld. Good ONAM for

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<v Speaker 3>calling them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Kristin.

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<v Speaker 12>The winner of the week, I would say is Libertarian Party.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 12>Looks like the major parties are taking on our policies,

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 12>which is good to hear. And the loser of the

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 12>week would be the Sky News reporter Shanley for being

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 12>treated poorly in our own country.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap, very good point. Thank you guys, do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you all again very very soon, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. All right, quick break. As we say,

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>there's an awful lot of people who they spend their

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>nights under the stars, not by their choice. The people

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 1>of Vinnie's are trying to do something about it. We'll

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a whole lot more next with

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>two of our favorites here at sky News who will

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>be doing the CEO sleep out now. I mentioned at

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the start of the show that cost of living means

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<v Speaker 1>that we are wanting to give it to charities, but

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we don't quite have the money to give it to

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>charities at the moment, which is why I made my

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>point about government that maybe they should spend on charities,

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>not just fluffing their own pillows when it comes to

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>telling us through public information ads how amazing they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they could spend the forty five million or eighty

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>million dollars and start to send that back the way

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>of charities. Till that happens, people like two of our

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>favorites here at Sky News on Palmori Live are doing

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.240
<v Speaker 1>their bit along with the others at the viny CEO

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.240
<v Speaker 1>sleepouts around the country, none other than our wonderful friends

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<v Speaker 1>Joe hilde Brand and Linda Scott. It's Lefty loving right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, the leftist have.

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<v Speaker 11>Got the numbers now of the life. We've got the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're finally here, gen yeah, enjoy this five

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.479
<v Speaker 1>minutes now. Both of you have been committed to CEO

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>sleep out for a long time. You've done it many times.

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>This one, of course, is in Sydney, very exposed on

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the Overseas Passenger terminal area. You can see there. It's

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>about eleven degrees the wind. It's going to be bloody, uncomfortable.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>But Joe, one of the many things I love about

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the CEO's Sleepout is not just the money that's raised,

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>but also the advocacy because no doubt tonight you would

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>have met people where this is normal.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, this is what we talk about

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 11>all the time. We're not pretending that we know what

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 11>it's like to be homeless, because you know, we're sleeping

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 11>out for just one night. In fact, quite the opposite.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 11>It's the uncertainty. It's the fear of never knowing if

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 11>you're going to find secure housing. The really important thing

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 11>or an event like this is when the participants all

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 11>come and as soon as they arrive and you can

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 11>see the newbies actually get quite shocked by this, basically

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 11>plumped into a circle with someone who has actually gone

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 11>through the ringer with homelessness, often domestic violence as well,

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 11>or sorts of things I would never have experienced in

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 11>their normal walk of life, and they hear those stories

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 11>firsthand and they're confronted with them, and it's often having

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 11>done it myself in the past, it is often very

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 11>very harrowing, very very moving, always very profound, and that's

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 11>what keeps people coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>See I sleep out dot org. You see I sleep

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>out dot org. That are you will to wake that

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>up on the screen, Linda. Of course, in local government

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>literally you see this stuff at the cold face. In

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a big city like Sydney, people would be surprised about

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>how many places people end up sleeping rough. How does

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>an event like this help?

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<v Speaker 6>Look, we really are seeing the need for food and

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 6>home services really increase, and I think this kind of event,

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 6>the work that Vinnis do is more important than ever before.

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 6>This is my twelfth year, but we're really seeing record

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 6>numbers of people sleeping on the streets in the city

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.919
<v Speaker 6>of Sydney and right across the country. I'm hearing from

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 6>regional mayors that people are sleeping rough for the first

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 6>time ever in some of their towns and regional places.

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 6>And the services we've had here in the city for

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 6>many years, like the Matthew Towbot, you know, the incredible

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 6>work Vinnis does is now needed right across Australia in

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 6>so many other areas. So yeah, there's never been more

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 6>demand on the services of Vinni's, but there's never been

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 6>more an important time if people have a couple of

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 6>dollars to chip in to support the great work that

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 6>they do through the CEO. I sleep out tonight, Yeah

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 6>see I sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Out dot org that I you. I'm going to keep

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>plugging away there if for again and swatch the microphone.

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Switch the microphone over here for a second because Joe

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 1>your turn now, which is my apologies to yes, thank

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you about sound as well as the cameras.

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<v Speaker 11>It's actually me who cut Linda's mic before.

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<v Speaker 1>Have absolutely no doubt. Now now again to those people

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>who go through this experience. Again, you said that the

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>shocking nate not shocking nature, the impactful nature of seeing

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the people they're trying to raise money for. But do

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you also see scenarios where you end up talking to

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>some of these people the next morning or maybe just

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>before they go to sleep, and they start to go, Okay,

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm personally going to chip in more because it's one

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>thing to raise money, but these people actually, now you

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>know this, twelve hours is when they themselves they commit

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to the issue, not just tonight, but for the next

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>twelve months.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah. Absolutely, And that's the whole idea of something like this,

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 11>that it's not just you know, you sort of pay

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 11>your arms to the poor and then you go off

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 11>and you don't think about it again. It's to really

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 11>challenge people and make them you know, give them yeah,

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 11>maybe a tiny taste, really more hearing people's stories and

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 11>understanding what it's like. There's then all sorts of mechanisms

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 11>for people to make pledges about what further action they're

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 11>going to take. And also, and again, even that just

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 11>first immersive experience, you can't forget it, even if you

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<v Speaker 11>tried to, so you do go back to your organizations

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<v Speaker 11>or your communities and start to think about ways that

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<v Speaker 11>you can help people. The other thing I find as

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<v Speaker 11>well is that the people who vinis helps themselves. And

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<v Speaker 11>I see this in all sorts of charities that I've

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<v Speaker 11>been lucky enough to work with. They almost always end

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<v Speaker 11>up helping other people once they themselves have got back

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<v Speaker 11>on their feet. So it's this credit we talk a

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<v Speaker 11>lot about, you know, you know, renewable s, thestateable energy.

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<v Speaker 11>For me, there's like a perpetual engine that just keeps

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<v Speaker 11>on giving. You help someone, they get back on their feet,

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<v Speaker 11>they help the next person who's down to get back

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<v Speaker 11>on there. So it's an incredible thing to behold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so with you, well done getting it in. They

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<v Speaker 1>won't push back. I think the split atom of kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be very important to see going for the

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<v Speaker 1>next little while. All right, Linda, last one here. Those

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<v Speaker 1>people who obviously started to go to bed behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>they must be thrilled that you've been setting up for

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation all evening.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, my bed's just over my right shoulder. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>piece of cardboard right next to a puddle. I can

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely confirm. Even though it does look beautiful here in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 6>it's freezing. There's going to be a bit of wind.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a very unpleasant night. You don't get much sleep,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's only one night, and as Joe has said,

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<v Speaker 6>it really does make you think that little bit harder

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<v Speaker 6>about what more you can do, whether it's donating money

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<v Speaker 6>to Vinnie's or volunteering, or going back to your workplace

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<v Speaker 6>and hanging around the hat tomorrow. You know, these little

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<v Speaker 6>things do make a difference. And when you think about

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<v Speaker 6>as you have all night to think here how cold

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<v Speaker 6>it is and how awful it is, just for one night.

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<v Speaker 6>And we met a woman tonight who was sleeping rough

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<v Speaker 6>for five months. She's a young woman. You know, this

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<v Speaker 6>is a terrible life. No one deserves that.

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<v Speaker 11>We can do more, bluddy thank you guys for meeting

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<v Speaker 11>some guy called Chris in the car park. And we're

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<v Speaker 11>just going to burn out of here, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we'll see you there, toddo. Guys, all right, jump

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<v Speaker 1>in the data and enjoy it, all right, see you

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<v Speaker 1>sleepout dot org. DoD are you ceo sleepout dot org?

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<v Speaker 1>Do are you? That's our show tonight, Go Tigers, Go Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>And I seeing something