WEBVTT - The Media Show | 14 March 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:04.160 Vince is the Media Show. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.440 Hello and welcome to the Media Show. I'm Caroline Derusso. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.800 Coming up on the show tonight. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.440 And the ABC's new managing director starts in the job 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:14.080 on Monday. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.560 Is he going to wrestle the Beast? Or can we 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:17.840 expect more of the same? 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.720 CNN, Well, it drops its bundle this week with example 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.960 after example of everyone and everything being racist, fascists and transphobic. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.840 And the ABC's Four Corners does a hit piece on 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.239 the Australian War Memorial and as per usual, being a 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.880 bit light on for alternative perspectives. But first, the Australian 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.560 Energy Regulator has released a draft decision to lift price 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.520 caps for hundreds of thousands of customers on energy company's. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.720 Default offers from July one. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.800 And what was the rationale from The Sydney Morning Herald 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.120 in its reporting, Well, a year of low wind and rain, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.760 sudden cold, generator breakdowns and elevator fossil fuel costs pushed 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:03.760 up wholesale prices. Now cap rises could increase household power 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.640 bills by up to two hundred dollars a year, and 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.039 the SMH did acknowledge that this was a problem for 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.360 Anthony Albanezi and that prices had risen despite assurances from 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.920 Albo and Co prior to the last election. Anyway, it 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.600 went on to refer to comments by the Energy Minister 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.560 which went totally unchallenged. It said Bowen said more renewables 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.080 were needed to cut prices and attacked the Opposition for 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.679 its energy policy, which includes building nuclear power plants across 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.200 the country and limiting the rollout of renewable energy. Here 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.080 is what Bowen had to say in his presser. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.440 One of the reasons for this decision today is spikes 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.640 caused by coal fire power stations breaking down. Not a 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.600 day in the last two years have we had a 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.560 call fire POWERstation not breakdown somewhere in Australia. Not talking 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.320 about plan maintenance. I'm talking about unexpected breakdowns which sends 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.640 the energy prices spike. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.480 Anyway, back to the SMH and it went on to 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.720 say that Dutton has criticized the government's eggs in one 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.560 basket renewables policy and set a balanced energy mix including 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.320 gas and nuclear was needed. He has claimed that the 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.160 opposition's nuclear policy would cut energy bills by forty four 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.120 percent by twenty fifty and that experts, including the CSIRO 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.799 have rejected that claim, stating that a grid dominated by 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:29.120 renewables and backed by massive expansion in transmission lines, pumped 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:34.480 hydro and batteries would be significantly cheaper. But SMH readers 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.240 would know that the reasoning colon gass are so expensive 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.680 is because of labour's crippling net zero laws. A mistruth 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.440 repeated that renewables are bringing down power prices. Of course 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.680 they're quick to debunk Dutton, but offer no scrutiny of 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:48.800 the Energy Minister. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:49.880 Interesting. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.440 The piece was published at nine oh six am yesterday, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.600 but was heavily updated. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.119 At six twenty two pm last night. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.120 Thankfully, Simon Benson at The Australian pulled the hend and 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.240 break up on the Energy Minister, noting that Bowen's default 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.480 position on prices is to blame the industry rather than 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.519 acknowledge the pressure's labor policy has injected into the market, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.440 and signs off by stating that the Albanesi government has 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.840 had three years to fix this problem. Subsidizing power bills 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.320 is not the long term answer. Well, that sounds pretty logical, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:27.760 But here is Bowen's solution, again unchallenged by the SMH 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.280 and other soft left media. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.680 I think these figures show an important opportunity to remind 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.480 Australians that you can do better and shop around for 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.720 a better deal. Now we've made it easier and the 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.000 Albanezi government to switch energy providers. And there are two 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.120 websites which are very. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.920 Useful joining me now on the Panelisky News contributor Louise 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:53.360 Roberts and Radio to Double C hosts Steven China Tempo Louise. Look, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.000 we can all see that power prices are going up. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:00.200 It's happening before our very eyes, and yet no substantive 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.480 criticism of the minister. How can that sort of balance 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:09.000 not be present given the significance of this particular energy issue. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.960 Well, the federal government and Chris Bowen's failure to deliver 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.720 on their promise of a two hundred and seventy five 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.960 dollars cut to our power bills is shameful to all 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.719 Australians and I would include readers of the SMH in 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.400 that so. Feasibly, they should expect their publication of choice 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.719 to challenge the government on this, rather than use it 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.360 as an opportunity to pump out propaganda about how coal 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.320 fired power is to blame for these sky high power prices. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.920 It just beggars belief that they haven't actually gone in 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.599 and actually addressed the key issue, which is why is 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.760 our power so expensive? And what's the government doing about 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.320 it when they claim to have fixed it, when of 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.520 course clearly they haven't. You think you're reading it's some 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.720 sort of alternative publication rather than a mainstream newspaper. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.240 And Steve, we just need to shop around. That's it, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.960 nothing more. I find that obviously extraordinary from the Energy minister. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.919 But we know that renewable energy isn't cheaper, and we 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.120 know that manufacturing nations across. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.480 The world rely on nuclear. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.760 How is that context, which quite frankly is pretty important. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.200 It's always missed or diminished. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.920 Well, there's a couple of points here. 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.800 I mean, the first thing is shop around for what 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.120 for a bunch of energy providers who have all seen 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.320 their cost go up, So no matter where you go, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.160 your energy prices are going up. And how's that two 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.960 hundred and seventy five dollars discount going. 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.760 By the way. But the reality is here that I 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:32.840 think a lot of media. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.520 Outlets are afraid to challenge the CSIRO who have got 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.680 their figures wrong and anybody who digs a little bit 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.000 deeper into how they've come up with their numbers, you 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.680 can actually see the flaw in their modeling. But I think, 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.200 you know, I've always maintained a lot of journalists are 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.520 lazy and they'll just use whatever drops in their lap, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.000 and if the CSIRO comes out and says the sky 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.480 is green, then that's what they'll run with. But if 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.159 you dig a little bit deeper and find out why 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.559 the sky is green, you see that the modeling doesn't 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.200 actually take into account the full cost of the renewables 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.680 roll out, particularly the rewiring of Australia, and it doesn't 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.560 also allow for the longevity of nuclear power plants. But 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.960 the thing that Chris Bowen misses here is the reason 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.200 that col fight power stations are breaking down is because 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.000 there's no certainty for the operators to actually maintain them 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.200 because they don't know when they're going to be switched off. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.600 Onto our next topic, and the Trump arrangement syndrome afflicted 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.719 lefties while they've joined ALBO to have asok about the 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:29.360 USA's position on tariffs, carrying on like jilted lovers, how 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.960 can they not care about us anymore? Trump is such 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.320 a big meaning now. Matthew Not from the SMH went 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.120 with the special friendship is over. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.360 Trump doesn't care about Australia. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.920 Also at the SMH, Peter Hartch's piece was titled Trump 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.080 has done us a favor by showing us where we 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:50.040 stand during peacetime. Nikki Hutley the Guardian proffered Trump's senseless 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.400 tariffs will extend the economic malaise felt by so many 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.080 in Australia and around the world. According to the Guardian, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.040 this is a painful global lesson into why we should 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.320 listen to rather than denigrate the experts. I think there's 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:05.440 a few people who would be. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.960 To differ anyway. And Bernard Keane or he got the 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:09.560 strops on. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.240 As well, because albow, he must ignore the boot lickors, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:18.120 get off his knees and punch back at Trump. Meanwhile, thankfully, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.200 others took a more practical approach, pointing out that while 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:22.800 some of these should be a wake up call for 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.800 the government, the correct response is to get serious about 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.280 improving the Australian economy, diversifying our trade, and there is 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:33.080 no point in bashing the Yanks. For example, Robert Godlibson, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.440 as per usual, arrived with some common sense. The US 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.800 snubs Australia, but there are ways. Here's how we can offset. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.040 Trump's tariffs, Steve. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.720 Look, Granted, it's a pretty unfriendly thing for an ally 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.160 to do, but is the media Are they covering for 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.080 a lackluster government performance here? 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.360 Look, to a certain extent they are. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.040 But look, I don't buy into the all in with 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.840 Trump mentality of some people on the right. I mean, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.600 Trump can be wrong, and with these tariffs he is wrong, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.440 not only from a perspective of his relationship with Australia 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.280 and his other partners, but it's not good for the 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.960 American economy either. I don't necessarily think he understands what 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.040 these tariffs do, because he made the comment the other 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.200 day that these tariffs are going to raise so much 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.240 money that he won't know what to spend it on. Well, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.360 if they work, they won't raise a single dollar. That's 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.240 how tariffs work. But the reality is here that yeah, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.440 I mean the media in this country, all certain sections 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.280 of the media have been running cover for the government 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.280 for the whole three years they've been in and we 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.000 can't despite the fact that I think America has done 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.600 the wrong thing by Australia in this we can't discount 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.480 the inability of the Australian government to maintain our most 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.440 important partnership. Now, you can blame Trump all you like, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.360 but we can't even get a phone call with the 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.040 bloke because our government's on the nose. Why because we've 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.320 got Australia's second worst prime minister in Washington as our ambassador, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.000 Australia's worst ever prime minister in the lodge who can't 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.319 even get a phone call with the president, and Australia's 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.080 third worst ever prime minister and Malcolm Turnbull sniping from 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.880 the sideline. So it put all that together, why would 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.280 the American administration want to talk to us? So once 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.520 the adults get back into power, I think we can 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.000 probably smooth this over. But you're not going to hear 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.480 that from certain media outlets. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.160 Don't hold back, Steve and Louise. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.319 Look, does our domestic media take too narrow of you 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:16.480 on these sorts of things? 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.880 Look, I think they do. I mean to Stephen's point 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.280 as well, that you know they have to look at 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.720 this globally and actually work out what the strategy is 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.480 for dealing with the fact that we now have these 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.199 tariffs instead of making it all about the sort of 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.359 anti Trump narrative and sort of weeping into their lattes 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.560 about the end of the special relationship between the US 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.880 and Australia, which of course is nowhere near close to 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.600 the truth at all. So I would like to see 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.000 a bit more discussion, a bit more robust discussion about 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.959 what it means now. I mean, Robert's piece was a 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.160 classic example of that. I think, as you've pointed out, Caroline. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.440 And look, while that discussion, well that rages I should say, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.960 and Steve, you made the point. Here is the snippet 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.920 from the Miserable Ghost chiming. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.280 In, I do not leave. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.320 You should give in to bullies right now? What Trump's 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.560 Trump wants people to suck up to him and to 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.240 be sick a fantic pretty much all the people I've 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.679 seen international leaders that have sucked up to Trump and 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.920 been sickerphans have been run over. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.480 And then Sarah Ferguson follows up with what I'm pretty 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.760 sure was the question on everyone's mind, and the response 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:24.640 was just astounding. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.559 Is it easier and better for Australia in this acute 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.600 moment when the tariff decision is obviously being made if 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:36.400 diplomacists are given the maximum opportunity to operate behind closed 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.520 doors without your intervention. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.280 I never thought I'd have to defend free speech here 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.000 on the seven point thirty report, and I'm glad you're 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.280 you're you're a little bit. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.760 Embarrassed raising that with me. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.160 Defending free speech. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.719 Louise I thought that was a pretty fair question by 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:54.600 Sarah Ferguson. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.360 Absolutely a fair question because as a former Prime minister, 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.240 Malcolm tambull is in a very position he has to 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.280 weigh up this sort of ego boost of commenting on 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.280 issues over which he no longer has any jurisdiction versus 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.200 the potential damage his comments can cause, particularly to the 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.000 current Prime Minister of calls Anthony Albanezi. And by extension, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.640 I would add Peter Jutton as the Opposition leader to. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.480 That as well. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.720 So for him to just sort of then try and 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.520 weaponize it as free speech, and look, I support free speech. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.360 He's entitled to his comments, but he has to be 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.480 very careful what he says going forward as well, like 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:31.800 any ex prime minister does. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.480 And Steve, look, I know the media they love to have, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.120 you know, past politicians commentate on things that happens all 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:46.240 of the time. I'm even surprised by Timbull with the 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.240 approach that he took, and I'm probably giving him a 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:49.200 little bit more credit. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.520 Obviously Trump didn't hold back on him. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.240 That just sets everything back as far as I'm concerned, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:55.679 you know, for Australia. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:58.360 And that's the point. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.240 And I made this comment earlier in the week on 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.560 Chris Kenny's program that Malcolm Turnble's actually right in some 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.400 of the comments he's made, but making them isn't helpful. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.480 And the reality is that you can talk about free 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.080 speech all you like, but free speech has consequences, and 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.320 when a former prime minister decides to insert himself in 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.920 to aggrandize his own ego rather than actually help the country, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.360 it does set things back. You know, He's right, Trump 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.760 does want sick of fans, but it doesn't help for 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.600 a former prime minister of the country when we're in 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.360 these negotiations to come out and call Trump out for 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:28.280 what he thinks of him. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.920 That is not going to help anybody. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.200 And the consequences of Malcolm Turnble's free speech is that 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.440 once again he's put himself ahead of the country, which 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.600 well he did for his entire Prime ministership didn't he. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.160 Well, there is that, and I think you'll find some 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:43.960 people who would sympathize with that view. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:44.720 Absolutely. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.160 Steve now on to our friends at the ABC and 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.960 Hugh Marx, Well he starts as ABC's managing director on Monday. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.600 David Anderson, the former managing director, will he tap the 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.400 mat and parted ways with the public broadcaster and the 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.199 new era is here also all of us long suffering 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.439 tax payers hope anyway. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.400 Columnists for the AFR Pro Gowart offered. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:10.400 Some long overdue and probably really refreshing advice, suggesting a 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.880 Doge like efficiency is the fix for the ABC's news bias. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.959 Steve is an efficiency rinse at the ABC. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.400 Well, it sounds delightful to me. Is that what it needs? 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.160 Look, I'd love to go over and check it out, 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.560 but unfortunately my unicorns at the vets this week, so 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.760 I can't ride into the ABC and see how their 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.240 efficiency is going. But yeah, maybe get rid of getting 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.760 rid of twice daily mail deliveries and tea ladies and 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.480 all that kind of thing might be a start, But 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.679 also maybe go back to its charter. Look, I think 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.480 Prue gowit's onto something here. But I think she might 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.400 be a little bit delusional thinking it's going to happen. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.560 Yeah, fair enough, And Louise, does the new managing director 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:50.800 know what is coming? 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.600 Does he know what is getting in for? Will he 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.439 manage or will he join the collective? 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.760 Well, let's hope he does not join the collective because 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.320 the biggest challenge for him is making the ABC cost 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.960 efficient and relevant to all of Australia. So that's an 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.800 enormous task ahead of him and one he'll be acutely 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.480 aware of a nodes that all eyes will be on 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.880 him and trying to make that work. It's interesting though, 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.200 because when he was leading Channel nine quite successfully, he 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.440 was critical of the ABC and made a point I 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.800 think of several years back, suggesting that Channel nine was 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.160 thirty percent more efficient in production costs than the ABC, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.720 and he also said the ABC should focus on content 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.240 that is not offered by the private sector, so that 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.960 maybe would suggest it he'll take a knife to certain 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.560 areas in order to shore up that budget. So it'll 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.120 be very interesting to see what's ahead. He also has 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.000 to work with Kim Williams. I think that you have 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.280 to be very careful that he's looking at it in 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.560 a pragmatic sense and not an ideological sense. So all 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.120 eyes on you, Marks, I would. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.920 Think absolutely, and let's see how he goes with. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.840 Nailing that jello to the wall. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.680 Luise, Robert Stephen China Tempo, thank you so much for 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.160 your time. Now after the break and everything it's Dan 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.240 is racist, fascists and transphobic. We have that and more 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:09.400 on the death throes of the mainstream media in the US. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.440 Welcome back to the show and now to Stars and Gripes, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.000 where we tear about the actions of the bitter activist 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.360 masquerading as journalists in the United States. And joining me 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.800 this week is Sky News contributor Kosher Gada and Kosher, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.600 we think the tariff debate is hated here in Australia. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.640 Here it is playing out in the US between Press 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.480 Secretary and Caroline Levett and AP journalist Josh bog When 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:37.720 he was. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.040 On the campaign trail, his big push was on tax cuts. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.960 He's going there today as he's proposing tax heights in 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:46.200 a form of terrorists. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.040 Now and I'm curious he's now for why. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.720 He's prioritizing that over the tax cuts. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:55.400 He's actually not implementing tax hikes. Tariffs are a tax 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.600 haike on foreign countries that again have been ripping us off. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.720 Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people. And 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.600 the President is a staunch advocate of tax cuts. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.080 As you know, he campaigned on no. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.560 Taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, no taxes on 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.680 social security benefits. He is committed to all three of 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.240 those things, and he expects Congress to pass them later 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:16.600 this year. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:17.400 I'm sorry, have you. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:18.920 Ever paid a terre? Because I have. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.640 Don't get charged on foreign companies, they get charged on 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:23.440 the importers. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.960 And ultimately, when we have fair and balanced trade, which 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.000 the American people have not seen in decades, as I 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.600 said at the beginning, revenues will stay here, wages will 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.200 go up, and our country will be made wealthy again. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.480 And I think it's insulting that you are trying to 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.240 test my knowledge of economics and the decisions that this 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.200 president has made. I now regret giving a question to 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:46.400 the Associated Press. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.160 And lasse hous Nicole Wallace will she fied back with 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:52.680 these I. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.400 Mean, she's a wash and regret and re Morrison offense. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.800 But she's either tragically uninformed or lying. There is no 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.960 economists that's been tapped to sit in Donald Trump's cabinet, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.400 who would testify under oath to what she just said, quote, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.440 tariffs are a tax cut for the American people. Simply 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.080 the opposite is reality kosher. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.440 This is all becoming pretty hated. Who's the casualty here? 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.639 Great to be with the Caroline, You know, I think 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.000 that this one is a little bit of a roarershock 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.320 test because tariffs are a controversial issue, as we all know, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.679 and there are many on both sides of the political 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.280 isle who do not agree with it. It goes against 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.080 fifty years or so of free market theory and economics 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.879 and all of that. So to them, they would have 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.879 seen it as a win for the other side, for 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.960 the AP journalists. And then there's a whole bunch of 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.600 people who just understand the concept of fair and balanced trade, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.360 as Caroline Lovett put it. They like the idea of 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.720 re orienting America from a consumer driven society to a 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.760 production driven society. And even if that means consumer pricing 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.360 for goods go up little bit, if it brings back 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.000 manufacturing and jobs and everything that comes with that society 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.639 lead back home, that's a win. So for those folks. 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.240 I think they'd be a team. Caroline Lovett over there. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.439 I think another thing that was interesting too is in 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.000 the follow up question that the AP journalist asked. He 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.359 was a little bit pejorative, where he questioned her like, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:17.840 have you ever paid a tariff? 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:18.359 Because I have? 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.640 And what that really was? I think the very lead 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.879 There is a war of credibility between the two, and 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.760 it's worth remembering. You know, she flipped that on him. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.640 She didn't let that slide. She said, you know, you're 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.480 questioning my understanding of economics. It's worth remembering journalists typically, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.000 not all, but typically, and certainly he, because I looked 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.800 up his background, is not an economist either. He's never 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.439 run a business as far as I can tell, so 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.760 he doesn't actually have practical understanding of how tariffs could 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.800 be absorbed along the supply chain. And so for him 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.720 to question her credibility, I don't think he came across 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.159 as particularly credible either. And that goes back to that 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:51.879 roarershock test. I think of how people are going to 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:52.719 see that exchange. 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.320 Sure, but it was a very very interesting exceriences, like 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.200 you have to say, and the US show the view well, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.320 it provides us with some of our more unhinged content, 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.160 I would say, and this ran from Whoopi Goldberg while 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:07.679 trans woman Dylan. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.080 Mulvaaney was on the show. 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.000 Well, I think this left pretty much everyone speechless. 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:16.600 The problem that the trans community is facing, and it's 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.440 the same problem that women face, is if you don't 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.760 know anything about our bodies, you don't know how it works. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.359 So when you come in and you say, oh, you 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:32.119 know these men, these are men, you know, competing and 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:36.600 competing against women, you're assuming that the women are weak 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.640 and just can't do anything yourself. 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:39.560