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Speaker 1: On Scyne Lives Austrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight, a massive program.

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Speaker 4: We have plenty to get through.

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Speaker 3: Joining me tonight, Patrick Carline, Josh Hammond, Darren Grimes with

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Speaker 3: the latest from the UK and Chris Elston will be

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Speaker 3: here with a message for the Safety Commissioner who he

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Speaker 3: is pledging to take all the way to the High

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Speaker 3: Court if need be. And of course lefties losing it

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Speaker 3: tonight starring the real and really woke Kamala.

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Speaker 5: You know we have to stay woke, like everybody needs.

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Speaker 6: To be woke, and you can talk about if you're

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Speaker 6: the wokest or woker, just stay more woke than less woke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joining me now, senior journalist with news called Patrick Carlne. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: Let's start with his Melbourne Sydney rivalry. It's taking a

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Speaker 3: bit of a bizarre twist if you ask me. After

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Speaker 3: New South Wales Premier Chris Means vowed to end working

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Speaker 3: from home flexibility across the New South Wales government, well

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Speaker 3: the Victorian Premier has taken a different approach. They are

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Speaker 3: very happy for public servants to come in only three

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Speaker 3: days a week, and a Victorian government spokesperson released this statement,

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Speaker 3: Any public servants from New South Wales who like flexibility

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Speaker 3: in their workplace should consider moving to Victoria. This is

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Speaker 3: a rather bizarre statement Patrick, that Melbourne CBD is dying.

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Speaker 3: Vacancy rates are the highest of any capital city. You

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Speaker 3: would think the government would be doing all it can

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Speaker 3: to bring its workers back, rather than boasting about allowing

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Speaker 3: them to work from home.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean Melbourne is a sad place. I mean

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Speaker 2: you walk down Elizabeth Street or Swanson Street. There's no

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Speaker 2: one there. There's lots of shut it up sort of

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Speaker 2: boards for restaurants and cafes that no longer exist. The

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Speaker 2: pandemic ended two and a half years ago. Why are

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Speaker 2: people still working from home? They do less, they don't engage,

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Speaker 2: they do other things besides work during the day. They

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Speaker 2: wear boxer shorts for zoom meetings. They're not present, both

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Speaker 2: literally and metaphorically, I mean and not really as business

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Speaker 2: groups say, that has a real impact on business and

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Speaker 2: getting things done.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and particularly in Melbourne, where as you explained it,

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Speaker 3: it is depressed. Sydney CBD seemed to bounce back very quickly.

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Speaker 3: After COVID, Melbourne's a different story. It's fantastic if there's

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Speaker 3: a major event, a footing match and there's crowds there,

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Speaker 3: but day to day, so many businesses are struggling to

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Speaker 3: hold on the ones that haven't closed already. And you

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Speaker 3: would think a very easy fix would be to say, okay,

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Speaker 3: public servants come back in, we're back to normal now.

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Speaker 2: Well, the one good thing about the pandemic was driving

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Speaker 2: to and from work. There's not the peak hour traffic

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Speaker 2: that there always has been for decades. People aren't coming

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Speaker 2: into the city and that obviously has a huge effect

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Speaker 2: on the businesses that are trying to sell, trying to

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Speaker 2: retailers and people you know, making lunches and all sorts

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Speaker 2: of things. You don't have the credible massive people.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and no longer the world's most livable city. Melbourne

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Speaker 3: does have a new crown, and unwanted one. Sadly has

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Speaker 3: become Australia's youth homelessness capital, with more than fifteen thousand

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Speaker 3: youngsters across the city reaching out for assistance for homelessness

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Speaker 3: services in the twenty twenty three financial yeah. This is

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Speaker 3: according to a new report form Homelessness Australia. The Chief

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Speaker 3: Executive Cake Colvin is warning that the housing crisis is

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Speaker 3: so deep in Melbourne that even low and middle income

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Speaker 3: owners are finding it very difficult to find an affordable

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Speaker 3: rental property.

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Speaker 4: That is true.

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Speaker 3: And the policies of state government that are driving investors

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Speaker 3: out of the market and shrinking the number of rental properties.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that's driving up rents.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to pump up land tax and make

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Speaker 3: it unattractive for mum and dad investors, they're going to

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Speaker 3: put their money elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think the takeaway from that is the

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Speaker 2: fact that you know, low and middle income earners are

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Speaker 2: actually struggling to afford to pay rent or to find

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Speaker 2: anywhere to rent. There's not enough housing. The homeless services

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Speaker 2: are talking about the fact that they are overwhelmed. They

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Speaker 2: can't actually help all the people, the huge numbers of

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Speaker 2: people who need help, who are asking for help. It

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Speaker 2: really doesn't It doesn't make nobourn look good at the moment,

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: We've got all these things going on. Everything's going poorly,

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Speaker 2: We've got the biggest debt, We've got potholes all over

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Speaker 2: Victoria's because you can't afford to kill them and you've

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Speaker 2: got issues like this and this is.

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Speaker 3: Going bust or going into state. Yet you look at

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Speaker 3: so many of the stats and the indicators of how

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Speaker 3: we're doing, and Victoria Melbourne is struggling and as a

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Speaker 3: once very proud Melbournie and it doesn't fill me with

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Speaker 4: And I hold not just.

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Speaker 3: The Labor government but the Liberal opposition responsible because if

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Speaker 3: they were even remotely electable, Labor would be better and

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Speaker 3: perhaps they would have been chucked out. But really the

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Speaker 3: Victorian people have no choice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, you look at the big bill, you look

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Speaker 2: at all the CFMU stuff that's come out in the

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Speaker 2: last few weeks. You're talking about potentially hundreds of millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars that should not have has gone to places

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Speaker 2: that it wasn't intended.

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Speaker 3: No projects, billions, billions over a budget years late. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about the un announcing that nine employees of UNRAH,

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Speaker 3: the agency for Palestinian refugees, may have been involved in

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Speaker 3: the October seven attacks. Opposition leader Piter Darton has called

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Speaker 3: on the Albanese government to reconsider its funding of UNRAH.

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Speaker 3: He said, we were given assurances up front that nobody

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Speaker 3: was involved in the October seven atrocities, and this is

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Speaker 3: a complete breach of faith. I think people are rightly

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Speaker 3: angry because we're talking about tax paid dollars. Yere Patrick

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Speaker 3: should funding be suspended at very least a review be

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Speaker 3: completed into where the money is going and who exactly

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Speaker 3: is involved in this organization because we've been talking about

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Speaker 3: Honrah on this network for years and it's links with Hamas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, I think Peter Dutton is right onto something here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is our money. We need to know

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Speaker 2: what it's going towards. You've got deep har maass sympathies

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Speaker 2: within this un agency, and you're talking about people he

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Speaker 2: accused not of waving a flag at a protest or

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Speaker 2: saying the wrong thing they were partner. They've been accused

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Speaker 2: of being part of a massacre of thirteen hundred innocent

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Speaker 2: people on behalf of a terrorist organization that wants to

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Speaker 2: obliterate a democracy in Israel. I mean, it's not surprising

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Speaker 2: what's come out in the detail today, but it is shocking.

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Speaker 2: It really is shocking. I can't imagine any other context

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Speaker 2: where that could be tolerated, that sort of infiltration.

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Speaker 3: And un Watch has done great work in uncovering some

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Speaker 3: of these links, and we've really seen a different approach

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Speaker 3: from Peter Dutton to this entire issue than from Anthony Alberanzi.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the things that really separates them. Labor

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Speaker 3: seem to be conflicted with the number of seats where

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Speaker 3: they've got significant Muslim populations, and they've been really quite

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Speaker 3: permissive of some of the anti Israel sentiment we've seen

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Speaker 3: in the community. Whilst Peter Dutton has had moral clarity

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Speaker 3: on this issue here has been very strong pretty much

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Speaker 2: I think the word I read yesterday the word to

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Speaker 2: describe Albanese's approach to it is timid, really and in

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Speaker 2: a time where we actually needed strong leadership and when

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Speaker 2: need somebody to stand up and say this is who

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Speaker 2: we are, this is what we're believing, that didn't happen

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Speaker 2: after October seven. Relatedly, you know he's made some moves

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Speaker 2: on the anti Semitic thing, but you're talking about June

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Speaker 2: the following year. You're talking about eight months after it

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Speaker 2: all began. Whereas Dutton, as you point out, has been

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Speaker 2: very clear and very unequivocal in saying this is right

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Speaker 2: and this is wrong. And I think that resonates.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think I think it takes courage too,

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Speaker 3: because maybe be looking at those seats that labor hold

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Speaker 3: and stute minds within the coalition. No, that's their future.

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Speaker 3: They can't rely on these blue ribbon till seats. Now

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Speaker 3: that's no longer their home ground. It is the out

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Speaker 3: of suburbs. It is regional areas. So when you take

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Speaker 3: that position, you do risk alienating segments of that population.

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Speaker 3: But you do it because it's the right thing to do. Now,

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Speaker 3: this next story is going to be very difficult for Patrick. Indeed,

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Speaker 3: they may even be tears. Just brace yourself because after

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Speaker 3: fifteen years with the Tigers Richmond champion, Dustin Martin is

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Speaker 3: retiring from football. He addressed his teammates today and confirmed

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Speaker 3: that after three hundred and two games, his retirement will

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Speaker 3: take effect immediately, Patrick, immediately. You can't even say goodbye.

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Speaker 3: Dusty has said that it's hard to put into words

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Speaker 3: what the Richmond Football Club means to me. I love

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Speaker 3: this place so much.

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Speaker 4: How are you coping?

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Speaker 3: Will we find you in the fetal position later?

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Speaker 2: Tonight is a difficult day. I'll give you that. Against that,

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Speaker 2: he's one of the great players of a generation. He

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Speaker 2: is one of those players. There are very few who

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Speaker 2: come along. I think of Wayne Carey or Gary Alblett Sr.

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Speaker 2: Who actually individually and personally changed the game during that era.

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Speaker 2: And you're talking about Dusty who won three Norm Smith Medals.

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Speaker 2: No other player has done that. He was the face

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Speaker 2: of the resurgence of a wonderful club in Richmond that

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Speaker 2: was in the Doldrons for thirty seven years before that.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you guys did not have a premiership for

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Speaker 3: thirty seven years and here comes along Dusty and now

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Speaker 3: we had three.

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Speaker 2: In three and four years.

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Speaker 4: We've read four years.

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Speaker 3: And your supporters are now insufferable, so you know we

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Speaker 3: Clingwood cart and supporters. Patrick Carlin, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for your time this evening.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Now is gb News host and founder of Reasoned UK,

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Speaker 3: Darren Grimes. Darren, we've got a helmet clad reporter from

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Speaker 3: Sky News UK not US reporting live from Middlesbrough where

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Speaker 3: protests and riots have been taking place. And then you

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Speaker 3: see a group of men carrying knives and will look

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Speaker 3: like blunt objects walking right behind her in the background.

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Speaker 4: Let's have a look.

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Speaker 1: Plush between protesters the police, and that is what and

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Speaker 1: they then run.

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Speaker 4: Off across the park.

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Speaker 1: Here a big group runoff looking for trouble.

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Speaker 4: It looked like to us.

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Speaker 1: So we're just going to step away now from this

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Speaker 1: group behind us. But a lot of disorder here.

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Speaker 3: And in other footage, even as the hosts speak about

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Speaker 3: far right protests, we can clearly see a man holding

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Speaker 3: what looks like a weapon.

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Speaker 7: This spot has been able to access one of the

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Speaker 7: far right telegram groups and he saw on that a

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Speaker 7: suggestion that there might be a far right process in

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Speaker 7: this part of Birmingham around this.

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Speaker 3: Time, Darren, we have seen appalling behavior from both sides,

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Speaker 3: but the media, the police, and certainly the government seem

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Speaker 3: hyper focused on what they're calling.

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Speaker 4: The far right.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean, I've got to stress that caveat that

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Speaker 8: you gave their resta quite rightly that I condemn violence

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Speaker 8: on absolutely both sides. But the fact of the matter

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Speaker 8: is here that the media narrative is trying to paint

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Speaker 8: entirely one side has been exclusively the issue, when actually,

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Speaker 8: as you've just rightly pointed out, as they're trying in

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Speaker 8: real time to present that narrative, it falls apart live

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Speaker 8: on air on national television with actually people been seen

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Speaker 8: to be carrying these implements and whatever else tools It

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Speaker 8: was in Middlesbrough, for example, and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 9: Whatever the apparent motivation. This is not protest. It is

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Speaker 8: Well exactly, Rita, why do you think they want to

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Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, absolutely, now I want to ask

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Speaker 9: Are we going to end two police Hilf.

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Speaker 3: Darren, There is considerable pressure the police. These accusations of

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Speaker 8: It absolutely is. You know, when the police were established,

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Speaker 8: And what does that do for a democracy such as ours,

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Speaker 8: I've covered with you before. Do you remember the Black

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Speaker 3: The Jews for wearing Star David that were they threatened

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Speaker 4: Well that has not.

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Speaker 3: Been the case, Darren. We've had the shortest of honeymoons

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Speaker 3: the core level. We always love speaking to you, Darren Grimes.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 8: Thanks cha still to come, The Left is.

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Speaker 3: Losing it and Josh Hammer unpacked Kamala nomics and whether

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Speaker 3: it's destined to crash Welcome back. Now it's time for

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Speaker 3: Left is losing it and let's have a look at

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Speaker 3: the real Kamala. We know she's woke, but just how

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Speaker 5: You know, we have to stay woke, like everybody needs.

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Speaker 4: To be woke.

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Speaker 8: And you can talk about.

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Speaker 6: If you're the wokest or woker, just stay more woke

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Speaker 4: To be woke.

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Speaker 7: And I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: But folks are woke and I love it.

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Speaker 3: She loves it. You know what I love is what

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Speaker 3: a chameleon kamalaie is. I mean, she was raised in

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Speaker 3: When in front of a mainly black crowd, I.

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Speaker 8: Said to the congressman, I didn't know what he.

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Speaker 10: Could preach like that.

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Speaker 5: All right, yeah girl, I'm out here in these streets

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Speaker 5: Can I get a witness?

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Speaker 3: Oh that was good, so good that it inspired this spoof. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Carmalarie is tropic thunder, so I know how to.

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Speaker 4: Make a mean part of greens.

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Speaker 5: In fact, people used to ask me to make rings

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Speaker 5: for the Christmas.

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Speaker 1: One year.

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Speaker 11: I had so many that I had to watch them.

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Speaker 4: We ended up watching them in the bathtub. So I

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Speaker 10: Back before the wall broke out, I was associated Saint Anton.

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Speaker 11: I bet I could call up some of them greens.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, do to some crawl fish out the patio.

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Speaker 2: I've made us some.

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Speaker 9: Crab apples for desert now yeah, hey, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh look.

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Speaker 3: Kamala is very good, but she has some ways to

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Speaker 4: I don't feel no ways tired.

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Speaker 5: I come too far from where I started from.

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Speaker 11: Nobody told me that the road would be easy.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to Kamala, we have to overlook the

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Speaker 5: It's on your.

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Speaker 10: Laptop, and it's then therefore up here in this cloud

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Speaker 3: And there'll be more lefties losing it with my next guess. Now,

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Speaker 4: Those critical issues.

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Speaker 3: Here she's asked about inflation.

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Speaker 4: The realities of.

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Speaker 5: That bread costs more, that gas costs more, and we

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Speaker 5: have to understand what that means. That's about the cost

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Speaker 5: of living going up. That's about having to stress and

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Speaker 5: stretch limited resources. That's about a source of stress for

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Speaker 5: families that is not only economic, but is on a

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Speaker 5: daily level, something that is a heavy weight to carry.

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Speaker 5: So it is something that we take very seriously, very seriously.

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Speaker 3: That's the woman they're presenting as an inspired, strong leader

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Speaker 3: who can lead us all in the free world. And

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Speaker 3: it gets considerably worse and it comes to a legal immigration.

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Speaker 3: She's on the record supporting free healthcare for illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 3: not even wanting the term.

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Speaker 4: Illegal to be used.

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Speaker 3: And she's even passionately defended those who pay human traffickers

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Speaker 3: to bring them across the border. Like most neo Marxist,

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Speaker 3: she's at her care open borders. She even sought to

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Speaker 3: compare ICE that's immigration and custom enforcement to the ku

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Speaker 3: Klux Klan.

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Speaker 4: I wish I was kidding.

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Speaker 13: Well, the clan was what we would call today a

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Speaker 13: domestic terrorist group.

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Speaker 14: Why why would we call them domestic terrorist group?

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Speaker 13: Because they tried to use fear and forced to change

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Speaker 13: political environment.

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Speaker 14: And what was the motivation for the use of fear.

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Speaker 13: Enforces based on race and ethnicity?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 14: Are you aware of the perception of many about how

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Speaker 14: the power and the discretion at ICE is being used

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Speaker 14: to enforce the laws. Do you see any parallels.

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Speaker 13: I do not see any parallels between.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about and agents.

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Speaker 14: I'm talking about perception.

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Speaker 13: I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally

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Speaker 13: mandated as it relates to enforcing the law.

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Speaker 14: Are you aware that there's a perception see are you

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Speaker 14: aware that there's a perception ICE.

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Speaker 13: In the same category as the KKK. Is that where

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Speaker 13: you're asking me?

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Speaker 4: Oh, she wasn't done yet.

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Speaker 3: That footage is from twenty eighteen, but Kamala was cain

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Speaker 3: to drive the point home that ICE is a kin

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Speaker 3: to the KKK. Why because they enforce the law?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 14: Are you aware of a perception that the way that

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Speaker 14: the discretion I'm not finished.

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Speaker 4: I see none.

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Speaker 14: I'm not finished. I'm not finished. Are you aware that

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Speaker 14: there's a perception that that ICE is administering its power

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Speaker 14: in a way that is causing fear and intimidation, particularly

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Speaker 14: among immigrants and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico and

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Speaker 14: Central America.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is the Senior editor at Large of

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Speaker 3: Newswake and Article three Projects, Senior Council Josh Hammer. Josh

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Speaker 3: is America ready for a president who compares ICE agents

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Speaker 3: to members of the KKK.

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Speaker 11: Rita America is becoming a more left leaning place on

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Speaker 11: a seemingly daily basis. But you know, I have to

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Speaker 11: think that the answer is no. You know, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 11: has been on the wrong side of every civilizational jihad

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Speaker 11: against the West and against the United States over the

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Speaker 11: entire course of her not particularly illustrious career. So we

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Speaker 11: have seen here the comparison between ICE and the KKK. Well,

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Speaker 11: you know, let me explain to a first grade area,

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Speaker 11: probably better than what Kamala Harris can do when she's

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Speaker 11: talking about how inflation means prices going up. Let me

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Speaker 11: try to explain to a first grader the difference between

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Speaker 11: ICE and the KKK. Ice is a law in enforcement

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Speaker 11: agency of the United States government. The ku klux Klan

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Speaker 11: was the very quintessence of vigilante justice. By the way,

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Speaker 11: vigilante justice actually oriented towards injustice, not actual justice. I

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Speaker 11: don't have to get into how morally ignominious it was,

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Speaker 11: but the mere fact that one is a governmentally sanctioned

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Speaker 11: body and the other is vigilantism that even and of

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Speaker 11: itself ought to demonstrate that there is simply no comparison here.

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Speaker 11: But around the same time that Kamala Harris was interrogating

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Speaker 11: their comparing patriotic Ice agents to the ku Klux Klan.

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Speaker 11: That was within a few months of her very leading

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Speaker 11: role in the September twenty eighteen jihad against then Supreme

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Speaker 11: Court nominee Breck Havana. Kamala Harris, along with Corey Booker,

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Speaker 11: that faithful day in late September twenty eighteen, she was

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Speaker 11: one of the leading inquisitors who hashtag believe all women.

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Speaker 11: She took Christine Blasi's forward word for it that Bret

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Speaker 11: Kalvina was a serial gang grave best the left on

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Speaker 11: that day in September twenty eighteen, Rida. Throughout five thousand

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Speaker 11: years of civilizational innocdental proving guilt norms, Kama Harris was

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Speaker 11: one of the absolute ring leaders of that. She should

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Speaker 11: be made to answer for that. Frankly, right now in

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Speaker 11: this calendar year on the presidential campaign, trill, Well, she.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be paying for anything. There seems to

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Speaker 3: be no accountability, a little scrutiny.

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Speaker 4: Of her record.

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Speaker 3: It's like she's just been introduced to the American people

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Speaker 3: for the first time, and she's this amazing, visionary, fresh

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Speaker 3: young leader who's going to lead the free world into

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Speaker 3: prosperity in peace, when, as you said, you look at

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Speaker 3: her record, she has been on the wrong side of

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Speaker 3: just about every significant fight in America. We saw her

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Speaker 3: campaigning for the BLM writers even raising bail money. She

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Speaker 3: said that they should keep her protesting, and some of

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Speaker 3: those protests.

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Speaker 4: Involved very much violent action.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to see that sort of scrutiny in

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Speaker 3: accountability or is she just going to have a honey

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Speaker 3: and Ron all the white to the November poll.

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Speaker 11: Look, the media is trying their darnedness. You know, it's

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Speaker 11: so funny, Rita. So the June twenty seventh CNN presidential

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Speaker 11: debate happens, and for about three to four weeks, the

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Speaker 11: American corporate media decides to be real journalists. It lasts

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Speaker 11: about three to four weeks. They actually held the regime's

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Speaker 11: feet to the fire. They held them accountable for this lie, which,

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Speaker 11: by the way, the media was complicited in the first place.

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Speaker 11: It's not like it was just the administration. The media

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Speaker 11: was complicit in it. So they pretended to be real

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Speaker 11: journalists to accomplish their end, and their end, obviously was

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Speaker 11: the coup deta of Joe Biden for Kamala Harris. Ever

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Speaker 11: since the coup finished, they have pulled a complete one eighty.

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Speaker 11: They were holding Biden's feet to the fire. You can't

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Speaker 11: hear a peek from them now, you know. It's it's

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Speaker 11: as if just a pin drop then you can and

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Speaker 11: you can't even hear it. At this point, no one

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Speaker 11: is making any noise. Kamala Harris is now over two

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Speaker 11: weeks into her coup of Joe Biden. She has not

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Speaker 11: faced a single straightforward question that I am aware of

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Speaker 11: from an actual media source. Even more to the point,

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Speaker 11: you know, I checked her campaign website yesterday, the Kamala

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Speaker 11: Harris for President's website. I don't see a list of

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Speaker 11: actual policy positions on there. I don't see a list

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Speaker 11: of where she stands on immigration, foreign policy, the economy, taxation, inflation, guns, abortion,

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Speaker 11: you name it. It's not there. It's literally not there.

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Speaker 11: So the woman is a totally empty vessel at this point.

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Speaker 11: And I guess, I guess that that is what she

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Speaker 11: is hoping to accomplish, But I don't think it's gonna work,

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Speaker 11: especially in the aftermath of the stock market crash, the

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Speaker 11: Kamala Harris crash, if you will there, I don't think

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Speaker 11: it's gonna work. She's not gonna be able to coast

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Speaker 11: her way till November, but the media is certainly trying

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Speaker 11: their darnedest to let her do it.

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Speaker 3: Now. You mentioned the stock market crash, Wall straight was

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Speaker 3: diving fizz. The US is on the verge of a recession.

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Speaker 3: The stock market was began in Japan with the Nikkai

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Speaker 3: in dex diving, but the US, in particular Josh is

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Speaker 3: in a perilous situation economically. Got weak economic data, including

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Speaker 3: those jobs figures, which they tried to blame on Trump.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was very interesting from the Harris campaign

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Speaker 3: blaming the poor job figures on Trump. Somehow, it seems

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Speaker 3: like biden Omics, if that's what we're still calling it,

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Speaker 3: isn't working too well.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, it's funny. So the Joe Biden campaign

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Speaker 11: pumped a lot of money this past September. It's almost

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Speaker 11: a year ago now. They pumped a lot of money

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Speaker 11: into NFL National Football League opening kickoff weekend and specifically

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Speaker 11: the NFL season, which is very popular here in America.

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Speaker 11: It opens on a Thursday night. They've been doing this

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Speaker 11: for about twenty years. The Biden campaign dumped a ton

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Speaker 11: of money on a coast to coast national ad bite

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Speaker 11: for that Thursday night football game almost a year ago,

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Speaker 11: specifically on the issue of Bidenomics, and ever since then

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Speaker 11: they have just totally ditched it. It lasted for about

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Speaker 11: a month and a half. Two months after that, they

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Speaker 11: haven't mentioned the word Bidenomics. It probably been six seven,

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Speaker 11: eight months. And how could you possibly mention it that,

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Speaker 11: I mean, what record is there other than totally and

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Speaker 11: complete incompetence to possibly reference. I mean, we're talking about

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Speaker 11: an economy that entered a formal recession in the year

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty two, recession which, by the way, they tried

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Speaker 11: to gaslight us and tried to come up with a

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Speaker 11: different definition of the word recession other than the one

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Speaker 11: that has been universally recognized by economists of all political

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Speaker 11: stress for decades, which is back to back quarters of

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Speaker 11: negative GDP growth. Remember the White House Press Secretary got

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Speaker 11: up there and said, no, it's actually not recession. We're

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Speaker 11: redefining it for you. So they tried to do that.

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Speaker 11: They reached nine point one inflation on the annualized CPI

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Speaker 11: consumer Price index level in the height the summer of

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty two. That's the highest inflation has been in

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Speaker 11: literally forty years now. So they have no idea what

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Speaker 11: they're doing on the economy. They cannot possibly run on

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Speaker 11: the economy. Unfortunately for them, the economy, the cost of living,

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Speaker 11: stagnant wages, and skyrocketing inflation, remains the number one issue,

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Speaker 11: along with the southern border, on which the record is

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Speaker 11: arguably even worse. So when you actually look at the issues,

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Speaker 11: they are frankly in terrible position. Again, the question, to

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Speaker 11: get back to what you said earlier, is will the

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Speaker 11: media allow the conversation on the substantive issues to actually

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Speaker 11: penetrate and then to resonate with the American voters If

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Speaker 11: the conversation is on the issues, Republicans will win.

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Speaker 3: If it's on the issues, But I doubt it's going

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Speaker 3: to get there. The media seems to be obsessed with

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Speaker 3: what they've always obsessed about, racial issues, identity politics, and

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Speaker 3: these sort of gotcha moments. Now I want to ask

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Speaker 3: you about something that's a little bit contentious. It's been

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Speaker 3: talked about not much in the media.

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Speaker 4: It's almost taboo there.

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Speaker 3: But Josh isn't fair enough to go through Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 3: pass as they've gone through Trump's past. We've got her

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Speaker 3: former lover on the record taking credit for giving her

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Speaker 3: a start in the Democrat Party. She was only twenty

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Speaker 3: nine years old when she dated sixty year old Democratic

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Speaker 3: Party king maker Willie brown Is back in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 3: he reportedly lavished her with all sorts of gifts, be

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Speaker 3: a w trip to Paris, tickets to the Academy Academy awards,

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Speaker 3: and he's written in twenty nineteen where he said, yes,

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Speaker 3: I may have influenced her career by appointing her to

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Speaker 3: two state commissions when I was an Assembly speaker, and

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Speaker 3: I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney

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Speaker 3: in San fran Cisco. Is this an area that is

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Speaker 3: worthy of discussion or does it really not matter how

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Speaker 3: she got her start? I tend to think that her record,

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Speaker 3: particularly in the Senate, is so damning that you don't

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Speaker 3: need to look beyond that. But it's interesting that, given

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Speaker 3: her colorful past, that really hasn't been much, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: discussion or investigation into how she got her start well, I.

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Speaker 11: Think it's fair game. I mean, I mean, it's not

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Speaker 11: like it's off the teeble. I mean, look, you know,

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump, among his various legal persecutions slash prosecutions, is

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Speaker 11: this so called hush money case in New York City

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Speaker 11: where we had a literal porn star, or at least

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Speaker 11: an alleged porn store. I've never watched her material, but

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Speaker 11: an alleged porn star Stormy Daniels on the stand testifying

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Speaker 11: about ingratuitous detail about an alleged one night stand from

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Speaker 11: twenty years ago. I mean about who had what clothes

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Speaker 11: on at what time. So you know, it's not like

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Speaker 11: we're in this very brutish society where details of this

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Speaker 11: nature are off the table. Details of this nature have

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Speaker 11: very much been on the table, at least since the

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Speaker 11: infamous Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky scandal of the late nineteen

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Speaker 11: nineties here in the United States. So you know, it's

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Speaker 11: not this it's fair game. If I were offering political

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Speaker 11: advice to the Trump campaign, I tend to agree with you,

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Speaker 11: which is that there is a lot easier fodder, there's

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Speaker 11: a lot lower hanging through. This is probably not the

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Speaker 11: absolute best way to go about attacking Kamala Harris. Again,

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Speaker 11: She's been wrong on every major issue under the sun.

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Speaker 11: But you know, the whole Willie Brown thing. This this

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Speaker 11: is all I will say. It does get at at

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Speaker 11: a broader truth about Kamala Harris, which is that she

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Speaker 11: has continually failed upward in her career. To kind of

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Speaker 11: use a term that I like, She's not a very

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Speaker 11: talented politician at that inflation clip earlier showed she's frankly

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Speaker 11: not a particularly bright politician. She continually is mediocre at

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Speaker 11: best and actively harmful at worst in one position, whether

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Speaker 11: it's San Francisco da US senator or vice president. She's

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Speaker 11: terrible basically every job she's ever held, and yet somehow

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Speaker 11: she is promoted just a little higher. I think that

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Speaker 11: is fair game potentially, But again, as you said, the

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Speaker 11: actual record is probably the easier thing to.

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Speaker 3: Do, Josh, before you go disturbing developments in the Middle Ast,

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Speaker 3: A full scale war between Israel and his Bulla seems

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Speaker 3: closer than any point since the October seven attacks by

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Speaker 3: her mask. We know his Bullar is as bigger, it's

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Speaker 3: more powerful than her mask. They've got significant backing from

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Speaker 3: Iran and Iran's Retrick has been dialed up since a

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Speaker 3: her mass leader was assassinated in Tehran. The Revolutionary Guards

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Speaker 3: have vowed severe revenge.

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Speaker 4: What does this main for the people of Israel.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a terrible situation. You know, as I'm speaking

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Speaker 11: to you, my in laws are actually on a flight

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Speaker 11: back to the United States from Israel. I mean, my

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Speaker 11: brother in law lives a few miles from Gods. I

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Speaker 11: have a lot of family on my wife's side over there,

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Speaker 11: so everyone is nervous. I mean, no one is particularly

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Speaker 11: happy about the current situation there.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately, the Biden administration could have done so much to

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Speaker 11: prevent this from getting to this point. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 11: after Israel allegedly because we don't know for sure, but

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Speaker 11: we all presume that they took out the Hamas leader

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Speaker 11: Hania in Tehran, as well as Shakor, the Hasbalah leader

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Speaker 11: in Beiruts. You know, the bay administration could have very

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Speaker 11: easily said he supports Israel's ability to take out the

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Speaker 11: people who are committing who committed the genocide in October

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Speaker 11: seventh and are shelling civilians northern Israel. Iran, don't you

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Speaker 11: dare touch a finger on our ally or, by the way,

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Speaker 11: on US troops in the region, because another headline familiar

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Speaker 11: today showed that Iran backed Iraqi militias fired yet again

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Speaker 11: on US bases in Iraq and wounded personnel. So you know,

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Speaker 11: when they're coming at Israel, they're also coming at US,

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Speaker 11: never far behind there. The Bidy administration could have done

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Speaker 11: so much to prevent this from getting to this point. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: they're doing the exact opposite of what a prudent foreign

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Speaker 11: policy should do. It's common sense that a foreign policy

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Speaker 11: should stand by your friends, warn your enemies. The bid

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Speaker 11: administration does the exact opposite. They tell Iran the pinprick

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Speaker 11: strike is fine, they tell Bibi Ntignah, who don't you

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Speaker 11: dare escalate there? So yet again another catastrophe on the

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Speaker 11: world stage, perpetrated by the utter incompetence and dare I

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Speaker 11: say even outright malice of the Biden Harris administration at

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Speaker 11: this point. But at this point, I'm frankly just praying

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Speaker 11: for some sort of restoration of calm, albeit I fear

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Speaker 11: that might not happen until January twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: God willing, Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 3: time this evening. Thank you so much still to Colm

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Speaker 3: the man taking on Australia's A Safety Commissioner, and he

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Speaker 3: is willing to take his case.

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Speaker 4: All the way to the High Court.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Nay Internet personality and children's rights activists Billboard.

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Speaker 3: Chris is continuing his illegal fight against Australian censorship orders

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Speaker 3: in a battle for his right to debate harmful gender

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Speaker 3: ideology on x Chris's tweet questioning the appointment of a

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Speaker 3: radical transactivist to a Weld Health Organization panel of experts

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Speaker 3: and calling attention to the dangers of radical gender ideology

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Speaker 3: was censored in February by the E Safety Commissioner Julia

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Speaker 3: Van Grant aka E Karen. But he is fighting back

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Speaker 3: and he joins me now to update us on his case.

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Speaker 3: Chris Elston, Welcome back to the program. What is the

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Speaker 3: latest on your case?

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Speaker 12: So at first it was the Free Speech Union of

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Speaker 12: Australia representing me, thanks to Reuben Kirkham and the excellent

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Speaker 12: work they did. But I now have a proper law team,

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Speaker 12: the Alliance Defending Freedom International pro bono Christian firm family

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Speaker 12: lawyers in Australia, so I've got an excellent team and

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Speaker 12: amazingly Elon also found appeal about my post. So we're

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Speaker 12: working together with Ex's lawyers essentially, and these two cases

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Speaker 12: are all going to be heard as one and it's

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Speaker 12: very exciting because whether we win or lose at the tribunal,

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Speaker 12: I think both teams are willing to take this to

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Speaker 12: the High Court because this is an important precedent setting

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Speaker 12: case for freedom of speech in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got to say, as a free speech love

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Speaker 3: and an Australian taxpayer, I'm not too happy about my

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Speaker 3: taxes being spent trying to censor you. Yeah, it seems

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Speaker 3: like an absurd waste of public money and complete overreach

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Speaker 3: to try to censor you on a platform like X.

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Speaker 3: Tell me just about that coordination of your fight with

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk's fight as well. If you've got back in you,

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Speaker 3: I can see this going all the way to the

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Speaker 3: High Court.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Unfortunately I don't have Elon's money backing me, but

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Speaker 12: that's okay, we'll get it done. But yes, it's totally

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Speaker 12: absurd that I live thirteen thousand kilometers away in your

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Speaker 12: e Safety commissioners trying to determine what I can say

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Speaker 12: about an Australian political individual. And what's interesting is when

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Speaker 12: you look at what Teddy Cook actually complained about. So

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Speaker 12: this is the woman that is a director at ACON

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Speaker 12: and vice president of the Australian Professional Association for Transgender Health.

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Speaker 12: Her complaint was about a picture that she had posted

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Speaker 12: to her own social media where she showed some beast

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Speaker 12: reality and the Daily Mail had featured that in their article.

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Speaker 12: But the complaint was about the picture. It wasn't about misgendering.

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Speaker 12: It seems to me from the documents that we've received,

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Speaker 12: and some of these are public because the Free Speech

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Speaker 12: Union did a freedom of information request and it looks

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Speaker 12: like the e Safety Commissioner, on their own accord, decided

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Speaker 12: to go after me for misgendering. It wasn't specifically in

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Speaker 12: the complaint from Teddy Cook. And in our aliminary hearing

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Speaker 12: with this federal judge, the president of the Appeals Tribunal

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Speaker 12: himself within thirty seconds of our first hearing, which was

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Speaker 12: just to determine dates for submitting documents, he chastised Reuben

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Speaker 12: Kirkham of the Free Speech Union for calling Teddy Cook

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Speaker 12: a woman and said we need to refer to her

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Speaker 12: as a man because she identifies as one. But the

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Speaker 12: whole point of the complaint is about my right to

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Speaker 12: call her a woman. So the whole thing is absurd.

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Speaker 12: I've said in my documents that we submitted that there's

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Speaker 12: no way I'm calling her anything but a woman. I

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Speaker 12: will use she her pronouns because to do anything else

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Speaker 12: would violate my beliefs. And if they want to hold

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Speaker 12: me in contempt and throw me in jail or whatever

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Speaker 12: they want to do, I'm fine with that because I'm

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Speaker 12: not doing anything but telling the truth.

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Speaker 3: Now, you were in Australia earlier in the year. You

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Speaker 3: wore your famous billboard and took to the streets and

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Speaker 3: had discussions with people. Let's have a quick look at

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Speaker 3: a couple of those interactions in Melbourne. See, you don't understand.

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Speaker 10: You can sit there and.

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Speaker 3: You can preach whatever you freaking want, but you don't

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Speaker 3: have had that experience.

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Speaker 8: But like, what you're saying is gender ideology, like shouldn't

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Speaker 8: be taught in schools.

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Speaker 3: Why can't people be taught that they're allowed to be

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Speaker 3: who they want to be?

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Speaker 8: When you're talking about children cannot consent to puberty blockers,

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Speaker 8: what's funny about that they.

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Speaker 7: Can consent to people children aren't they given puberty blocks

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Speaker 7: and people the back as blockers have no irreversible effects,

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Speaker 7: So like, what's the deal yet, Chris?

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Speaker 3: How did you find Australia? And as an outsider, did

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Speaker 3: you detect a difference between different cities?

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Speaker 4: Is Melbourne more woke than Sydney? For example?

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Speaker 12: It might have been luck of the job, but Melbourne

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Speaker 12: is as woke as anywhere I have gone. It was

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Speaker 12: pretty amazing. And there were all these feminists that this

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Speaker 12: domestic violence rally who had a problem with me because

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Speaker 12: I think we shouldn't sterilize kids. But they were fine

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Speaker 12: with this man in a dress who was with them

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Speaker 12: coming into their spaces. So I don't think they really

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Speaker 12: understand the source of domestic violence. But people are just deceived.

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Speaker 12: As we heard in that clip there, this woman thinks

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Speaker 12: that children aren't being given puberty blockers. Well, if we're

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Speaker 12: not giving puberty blockers to children, who are we giving

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Speaker 12: them to it's to block puberty and it's children who

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Speaker 12: go through puberty. So people who oppose this really just

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Speaker 12: don't have any information. And so my campaign is really

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Speaker 12: about educating them, and it's working. We're reaching millions of

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Speaker 12: people and all across the globe. We are putting a

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Speaker 12: stop to this in different jurisdictions.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the fallout from the Olympic boxing

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Speaker 3: scandal that's continuing involving our jerias Iman Khalif and Taiwan's

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Speaker 3: Lin you Ting. The International Olympic Committee spokesman Mark Adams

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Speaker 3: fronted the media to answer some question, but he did

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Speaker 3: seem baffled when asked why the Committee did not conduct

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Speaker 3: sex testing like the IBA does, under.

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Speaker 15: What purpose, under what the test was for. I don't know,

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Speaker 15: as I say, as far as we managed to do

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Speaker 15: away with sex testing in the last century, so I'm

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Speaker 15: not quite sure what the foundation for the testing was.

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Speaker 15: We don't really know kind of very much more about

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Speaker 15: it than that. But yes, we did receive a letter

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Speaker 15: that we won't deal with the contents of that letter.

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Speaker 3: Chris, What do you make of that response? They seem

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Speaker 3: to be baffled and disgusted by sex testing, even though

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Speaker 3: they used to do that.

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Speaker 4: For some time.

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Speaker 3: It was very normal for the Olympics to have testing

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Speaker 3: to prove that a woman is a woman, but they

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Speaker 3: did get rid of that some twenty odd years ago,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's brought all sorts of problems that

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Speaker 3: we've seen these scandal with a cawta semna saga, and

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Speaker 3: they haven't seemed to have learned from that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a funny thing. In the Olympics, they compete

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Speaker 12: in two different categories. They're called male and female. So

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Speaker 12: perhaps we should be testing to determine for sure that

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Speaker 12: the females are females because in these two cases with

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Speaker 12: these two boxers, which makes it even worse because they're

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Speaker 12: beating up women, they happen to be male. They have

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Speaker 12: all the advantages strength, speed, stamina, et cetera that males have,

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Speaker 12: larger VO two max, more oxygen, all of these things,

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Speaker 12: stronger bones, and yet now they're punching women and it

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Speaker 12: looks like they're both going to go to the gold

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Speaker 12: medal match. So this is an absolute discrease. The IBA

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Speaker 12: already determined they were both male, and the IOC just

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Speaker 12: want to bury their head in the sand and say

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Speaker 12: this is all about diversity.

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Speaker 3: Well, according to the IBA and what we're hearing from

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Speaker 3: journalists who've actually seen the test results, they have x

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Speaker 3: Y chromosomes and the IOC was advised of that and

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Speaker 3: they have.

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Speaker 4: Just chosen to ignore it.

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Speaker 3: They've chosen to discredit the tests, discredit the reasons the

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Speaker 3: tests were undertaken, and the losers out of this are

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Speaker 3: the female athletes because they are going to be disadvantaged.

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Speaker 3: And if both these spiders end up with medals, then

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Speaker 3: I think it's an app salute travesty.

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Speaker 4: Chris, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: We always appreciate your insights and we'll have you back

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Speaker 3: once your case progresses further.

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Speaker 4: Chris Elson, thanks for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow and Douglas Murray will

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Speaker 3: be joining me.

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Speaker 4: Good night,