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Speaker 1: Approach a production for the record.

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Speaker 2: I'm don't try and make you all comfortable for the record.

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Speaker 2: You ain't trying to grow downer stuff for your right

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Speaker 2: for the record, laugh on me going hard away way

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Speaker 2: photo record. Ain't trying to link, No trying to waste

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Speaker 2: for the record.

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Speaker 3: For the record, for the.

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Speaker 4: Record, for the right for the.

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Speaker 3: Record, record.

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Speaker 1: Photo record.

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Speaker 2: I don't try and make y'all comfortable.

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Speaker 5: Right, Welcome back to the clink. This is part two

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Speaker 5: of Dean Mark's story. If you haven't heard part one yet,

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Speaker 5: be sure to go back and listen first.

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Speaker 1: As we continue right from where we left off.

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Speaker 6: I did that three weeks in a row mate and

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Speaker 6: then on the fourth week, Yeah, they are waiting for

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Speaker 6: me then, So that was the last time I seen

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Speaker 6: the fucking the light mate for eleven after that.

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Speaker 5: So was that also a bop that you did as

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Speaker 5: well on top or did they re sentence you on

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Speaker 5: the prior charge you on parole for.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was on parole for a shooting. I had

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Speaker 6: eighteen months to go on that, so I had to

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Speaker 6: finish that first. And then the reason why they didn't

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Speaker 6: come and arrest me straight away is because we're under investigation.

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Speaker 4: For trafficking as well.

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Speaker 6: Once they had me for the trafficking charge, they just

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Speaker 6: needed a few more weeks to get me for.

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Speaker 4: The trafficking charge.

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Speaker 6: And once they had that, then they locked me up

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Speaker 6: for the GBH on old mate. The investigation kept going

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Speaker 6: on me and my mates for the trafficking, but they

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Speaker 6: already had me with six supplies. They could get me

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Speaker 6: for a trafficking charge. So they took me off the

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Speaker 6: street with the GBAH. Didn't say nothing about the traffic

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Speaker 6: and then three months later they got all my mates

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Speaker 6: for the trafficking when.

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Speaker 4: I was locked up.

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Speaker 5: How good are they with that sort of thing? They're

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Speaker 5: very clever, aren't they. They did the same thing to me.

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Speaker 5: They come through. They got me on I was the

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Speaker 5: first in Australia to be charged with known trafficking at cannabinoid.

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Speaker 1: Oil, which was CBD. I started a CBD business, no

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Speaker 1: thc in it.

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Speaker 5: Hit me with that and then try to get me

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Speaker 5: with deprivation of liberty and a couple other backup charges.

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Speaker 1: And so then they'd hit me with that, and then.

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Speaker 5: They hit me with the accessory a murder and knowing

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Speaker 5: then then stacking that on top of each other. Plus

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Speaker 5: with my pride, I did six years for importation. There

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Speaker 5: was no chance of in their eyes, of me getting bail,

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Speaker 5: you know. And that was their whole motive, was to

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Speaker 5: just keep loading and loading and loading. And it's very

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Speaker 5: interesting the way that they manipulate the system to be

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Speaker 5: you aren't coming home.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is it was all a part of their

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Speaker 6: fucking little plan too, because I say, they come and

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Speaker 6: charge me with that three months later and then I

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Speaker 6: obviously I just sat there and didn't have nothing to

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Speaker 6: and you'd finishing up your parole and the shooting as well.

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Speaker 6: Now you've got a trafficking charge. Sure you don't want

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Speaker 6: They're like, sure, you don't want to tell us something,

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Speaker 4: With my head. I'll go yeah, And that was that

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Speaker 4: was the walk out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, brother, nothing to say, Just shut up and lock

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Speaker 4: I'm already here.

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Speaker 1: That was my attitude.

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Speaker 5: They tried the whole same thing, and like there was

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Speaker 5: depth of the whole matter. Yeah, there a ways and

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Speaker 5: methods was very similar. And I was just like, what

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Speaker 5: Were you fucking kidding? Get fucked and hurry up, locked

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Speaker 5: Once you sort of understand their whole process, you know

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Speaker 5: for those out there that are thinking that it's all

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Speaker 1: You make your own choices. But at the end the day,

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Speaker 1: the realities around what will take place one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: are these times, the mind games, the court cases, the

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Speaker 1: amount of money, the shit that they drag you through.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're lucky if you can get three or.

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Speaker 5: Four are Germans in a case they'll have twenty ad

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Speaker 5: Germans and never excuse under the sun to drag it out,

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Speaker 5: you know, like just to purposely have you sit there

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Speaker 5: and you know, not always do you get time served

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Speaker 5: I had to learn in Queensland which I didn't know

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Speaker 5: can say that you're of a bad character. Whilst in custody.

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Speaker 5: Where's in New South Wales you just get tipped or

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Speaker 5: go to segra, you know, and you get a jail

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Speaker 5: blue that's it. You know, you're off byops or you know,

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Speaker 5: whatever it might be. They'll just deal with it. It

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Speaker 5: for those young folks out there that are going through

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Speaker 5: this sort of thing, We've been through it.

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Speaker 1: Then there is a lot to consider.

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely, mate.

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Speaker 6: And I've going back to the sentences going on top

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Speaker 5: So you did you didn't get a backdate at all.

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Speaker 6: Nah, But because I was serving a sentence of that

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Speaker 6: one concurrent, Yeah, and I got pinched for a little

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Speaker 6: in more. They put nine months for a fucking few.

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Speaker 4: Games, you know.

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Speaker 6: Nine months yeah, on top of me sentence, and then

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Speaker 1: So did you get an external charge for a jailed

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Speaker 5: Yeah, wow wow, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's different states.

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Speaker 4: I had another one too.

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Speaker 6: I've had a punch on with this bloke and made

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Speaker 6: trying to keep me there because I'd already been in

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Speaker 6: eight years. Yeah, they tried to get me for that

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Speaker 4: And I was like, fuck mate.

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Speaker 6: So I just sat in Segre for a fucking couple

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Speaker 5: Segra is not too bad, mate, You're in a bit

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Speaker 1: It's a different world. But you know, until you've been

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Speaker 4: It's character building.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you really find out who you are when you're

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Speaker 5: You know, I want to just touch on something which

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Speaker 5: were up your date was coming up, your parole date,

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Speaker 1: In my correct in saying that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, Like obviously I've been in for ten

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Speaker 6: I just said, I'm not going to play this game.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to break me, you know, like I'm

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Speaker 6: in the best fucking mindset I've ever been in my life,

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Speaker 5: That was the actual part that really grabbed me was

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Speaker 5: the way that you were trying to just share with

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Speaker 5: people the resilience that you had built, the mental strength

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you have.

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Speaker 1: Obviously many a blake kick right off.

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Speaker 5: In that circumstance or being denied or getting told they've

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Speaker 5: like it's a terrible for you, especially if you know

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Speaker 5: the blake, you know they're a good bloke. They've done

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Speaker 5: a big whack and they're up and you know that

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Speaker 5: they've kicked along, played the game. So you're not getting it.

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Speaker 5: You know, I want to come back in six months,

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Speaker 5: do another course whatever.

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 5: Hearing you speak like that, I could really relate to

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Speaker 4: And I did.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, skipping forward, just that little bit where I

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Speaker 4: I don't need an address.

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Speaker 6: I've got an address, you know, like, and she agreed

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the parole officer right now.

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Speaker 6: And I just went back there and I just laid

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Speaker 5: And I mean the thing is too when you look

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Speaker 5: The world's changed a fair fucking bit. I mean, you're

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: Very very tyfficult difficult to adapt to one and two

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Speaker 6: And then I when I said to her, like, you know,

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Speaker 6: And yeah, obviously they did the right thing. They let

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Speaker 5: Well, all I can say, mate, is thank God for

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Speaker 5: So therefore you've given them options rather than get knocked

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Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, it was how I was lucky enough to

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Speaker 6: like I knew nine years still to go on my satins,

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Speaker 6: I can't just sit here and waste it, Like, how

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Speaker 4: Somehow.

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Speaker 6: And I'd never been the smartest dude at all when

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Speaker 6: And but one thing I was good at was anything physical.

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Speaker 6: I was really good at that, you know. And that's

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Speaker 5: I think too, the other side of it is, and

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Speaker 5: But from my experience, they took the free weights and

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Speaker 5: side microwave meals. So you know, like learning to do

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00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:57,361
Speaker 5: all that with the bare minimum skills coming into the

441
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 5: world as such, where you have access to so much more.

442
00:21:00,921 --> 00:21:04,001
Speaker 1: Would it giving you so much more of a leg.

443
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 5: Up on what you could achieve as opposed to the

444
00:21:06,681 --> 00:21:10,481
Speaker 5: average person who has no idea has always had everything

445
00:21:10,561 --> 00:21:13,321
Speaker 5: there to access, you know, all the perfect sort of

446
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 5: gym equipment and all the actual food and nutrition in

447
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,001
Speaker 5: the world that they could have and want and need,

448
00:21:19,041 --> 00:21:22,521
Speaker 5: And here you are basically in the battle zone, doing

449
00:21:22,561 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 5: your best and successfully doing it. Coming out with that

450
00:21:26,521 --> 00:21:29,801
Speaker 5: knowledge like that to me. You know, you said something

451
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,041
Speaker 5: about the hours that you've worked with your accountant, and

452
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,161
Speaker 5: that puts yourself, you know, twelve months ahead of everybody

453
00:21:36,201 --> 00:21:37,041
Speaker 5: else at the moment.

454
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Speaker 7: Well, think that on the flip side again, of how

455
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,441
Speaker 7: far advanced your ways of training and your knowledge would

456
00:21:44,441 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 7: be by then having access to everyday services.

457
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 6: That's right, mate, And I talk like this with a

458
00:21:51,681 --> 00:21:54,521
Speaker 6: lot of my clients as well, because I trained for

459
00:21:54,561 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 6: sixteen years before I even fucking stepped foot in the gym,

460
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,481
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

461
00:21:58,521 --> 00:22:00,321
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'd never.

462
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 6: Had any weights or anything like that, and I built

463
00:22:02,681 --> 00:22:06,041
Speaker 6: my physiche from you know, like you know, mop buckets

464
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: with bloody jumpers in them, and into locking legs together

465
00:22:09,561 --> 00:22:12,561
Speaker 6: and doing set a fucking rows, pulling each other backwards

466
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,001
Speaker 6: and forwards, chucking them up on the cage on top

467
00:22:15,041 --> 00:22:19,641
Speaker 6: of the fucking shoulders and doing squats and yes, so

468
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,241
Speaker 6: that's one thing in there. You get very creative when

469
00:22:23,321 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 6: you've got time. You can start thinking of some pretty

470
00:22:26,481 --> 00:22:28,961
Speaker 6: sort of good shit when it comes to all right,

471
00:22:29,041 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 6: what have we got and what can we do? With it,

472
00:22:31,281 --> 00:22:34,161
Speaker 6: you know, And I think that gives me a leg

473
00:22:34,281 --> 00:22:36,521
Speaker 6: up these days. And I think that's why I'm so

474
00:22:36,961 --> 00:22:39,481
Speaker 6: successful in what I'm doing at the moment, is because

475
00:22:39,521 --> 00:22:42,761
Speaker 6: I've learned how to really use my body. And you know,

476
00:22:42,761 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 6: I'm six foot fucking nine, mate, I've a lot of

477
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,281
Speaker 6: people look at me and go, fucking hew, how how

478
00:22:49,321 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 6: have you built that sort of fucking physique in your frame?

479
00:22:52,521 --> 00:22:54,801
Speaker 6: You know? And that's from doing all that sort of stuff,

480
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,281
Speaker 6: just finding how all these little bits and pieces, and

481
00:22:58,321 --> 00:23:01,281
Speaker 6: I've just got a really good channeling of fucking how

482
00:23:01,321 --> 00:23:03,721
Speaker 6: my body works now, and now when I've stepped into

483
00:23:03,801 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 6: gyms after all all there is, and then all of

484
00:23:06,481 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 6: a sudden, it's like I've got all this stuff at

485
00:23:08,441 --> 00:23:11,001
Speaker 6: my exposal. What you were saying, I'll tell you what,

486
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,841
Speaker 6: it's a piece of cake out here. If I can

487
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,761
Speaker 6: do it in there.

488
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: It's exactly right.

489
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 5: And look, I'm not going to sit here and pump

490
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 5: your tires up because I don't need to.

491
00:23:20,801 --> 00:23:24,521
Speaker 1: But you are a fucking fine looking man, like you're

492
00:23:24,921 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: a fucking beast, There's no two ways about it.

493
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,761
Speaker 5: I don't want to sound like I'm sitting here pulling

494
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Speaker 5: you off, but you are awesome to look at. You know,

495
00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:37,361
Speaker 5: I don't go big on the whole bodybuilding industry.

496
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,681
Speaker 1: I don't know very little about it. It's just something

497
00:23:39,721 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in. You know. I'm very athletic, I'm

498
00:23:41,761 --> 00:23:44,481
Speaker 1: very active, but I'm an endurance athlete.

499
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: You know.

500
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 5: For me, I'm not about building a body. But I

501
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,321
Speaker 5: see you and I just go wow, look at that man.

502
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 5: That's a human that's a human's body that is just

503
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,361
Speaker 5: developed into this amazing physique. And I'm going to ask

504
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,521
Speaker 5: the obvious, because these people are going to ask the question,

505
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: are you on the juice?

506
00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: And if you are, what do I mean?

507
00:24:02,321 --> 00:24:04,441
Speaker 5: Look, I'm on TRT and have been for the last

508
00:24:04,681 --> 00:24:07,281
Speaker 5: three and a half years, four years prescribed.

509
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,961
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, do you get on the juice?

510
00:24:10,481 --> 00:24:10,681
Speaker 4: Yeah?

511
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 6: Like I said, I trained for sixteen years before I

512
00:24:14,761 --> 00:24:18,321
Speaker 6: touched anything at all, any weights, anything like that, and

513
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,481
Speaker 6: then once I got out, I got on the TRT.

514
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,041
Speaker 6: I'm telling your life a bit of TRT and a

515
00:24:24,041 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 6: few peptiles running through your mate. In fact, I feel

516
00:24:26,681 --> 00:24:30,241
Speaker 6: a million bucks, you know so, but I've done forces

517
00:24:30,281 --> 00:24:33,081
Speaker 6: of steroids. When I first got out, I got out

518
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,761
Speaker 6: of prison, mate, I jumped straight on the TRT and

519
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 6: I even got a little bit of growth hormone as well,

520
00:24:38,441 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 6: because my elbows have been pretty shot from over the

521
00:24:42,201 --> 00:24:45,321
Speaker 6: years in jail obviously thrashing me body in there and

522
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,041
Speaker 6: having no sort of that ain't give me any supplements

523
00:24:49,041 --> 00:24:51,041
Speaker 6: they were in there to sort of help with anything

524
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 6: like that. You just you know, I can drink some

525
00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:56,561
Speaker 6: water and you can have a paneta. That's about it.

526
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,041
Speaker 1: If you're lucky, you get a penalty.

527
00:24:58,561 --> 00:25:01,801
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And I got on a little bit

528
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,721
Speaker 4: of growth hormone.

529
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 6: That was That was the thing I spent probably my

530
00:25:05,561 --> 00:25:07,681
Speaker 6: money on when I started work, and I just spent

531
00:25:07,801 --> 00:25:10,481
Speaker 6: my money on buddy growth or because it's so expensive,

532
00:25:10,561 --> 00:25:13,041
Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, I repaired my elbows a fair bit

533
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 6: now now now they're not too bad. So yeah, so

534
00:25:17,281 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 6: I run t RT and you know, as you would know,

535
00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:24,361
Speaker 6: peptide these days, it's like the way of the future

536
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 6: at the main with the peptides, and I run a

537
00:25:26,961 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 6: couple of them as well.

538
00:25:28,561 --> 00:25:31,321
Speaker 5: And I think, look, you know, these days there's nothing

539
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,521
Speaker 5: wrong with it. And I think we're in a stage

540
00:25:33,561 --> 00:25:36,041
Speaker 5: where we can have these conversations and not be shond

541
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 5: upon from a man's point of view that's lived a

542
00:25:39,321 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: very physical life like yourself or had you know, a

543
00:25:42,721 --> 00:25:45,961
Speaker 5: lot of years away where you've had not the best

544
00:25:46,041 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 5: nutrition for your body, that's for sure and for certain,

545
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 5: and as you said, you know, like you've had to

546
00:25:50,921 --> 00:25:54,201
Speaker 5: work with some things that are just technically we shouldn't

547
00:25:54,201 --> 00:25:57,321
Speaker 5: be working with, but we may do, and it takes

548
00:25:57,321 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 5: a toll on the body in the long run. You

549
00:25:59,801 --> 00:26:04,761
Speaker 5: now are a successful business owner, and let's talk about that,

550
00:26:05,201 --> 00:26:07,001
Speaker 5: to talk about what it is that you're putting back

551
00:26:07,001 --> 00:26:09,241
Speaker 5: into the community, because it's phenomenal.

552
00:26:09,241 --> 00:26:12,321
Speaker 1: And congratulations mate for everything that you do do.

553
00:26:13,281 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks very much mate.

554
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 6: It's one thing that when I was talking about my

555
00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:20,041
Speaker 6: best mate earlier, he was right into his fitness as well,

556
00:26:20,201 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 6: and we used to sit there and bounce off each

557
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,321
Speaker 6: other with ideas of what we're going to do and

558
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,041
Speaker 6: all this sort of stuff. And that's what got me

559
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:32,761
Speaker 6: into Like once I got released, I was in high

560
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,001
Speaker 6: rise construction for a bit and then I always knew

561
00:26:37,041 --> 00:26:39,121
Speaker 6: that I wanted to get into the health and fitness

562
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,881
Speaker 6: industry with being a trainer and all that, because that's

563
00:26:41,921 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 6: what I'd practiced for so many years in there. Obviously,

564
00:26:45,281 --> 00:26:48,801
Speaker 6: the high rise construction was like a stepping stone. And

565
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,961
Speaker 6: then I did all my courses and all that while

566
00:26:51,001 --> 00:26:53,921
Speaker 6: I was out, while I was working in the high rises.

567
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,001
Speaker 6: And once I got my ticket and all that sort

568
00:26:57,001 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 6: of stuff, I started working two jobs. I'd work all

569
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 6: day in the construction site, then I'd go to the

570
00:27:02,241 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 6: gyms in the afternoon and train people. And I was

571
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 6: doing that for nine months straight.

572
00:27:07,801 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: You know. I was doing some big days, you know.

573
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,481
Speaker 6: But I knew I had to grind if I wanted

574
00:27:12,481 --> 00:27:14,921
Speaker 6: to get something off the ground, I had to put

575
00:27:14,961 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 6: the work in, you know.

576
00:27:16,521 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: And I was ready for it. You know.

577
00:27:18,241 --> 00:27:20,921
Speaker 6: I'd conditioned my body for all this sort of shit

578
00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 6: for many years, you know. So I grinded doing two

579
00:27:24,801 --> 00:27:28,321
Speaker 6: jobs like that for nine months, and then one day

580
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:32,041
Speaker 6: I just made the decision of taking the leap. I

581
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,281
Speaker 6: left the two and a half thousand dollars job and

582
00:27:34,481 --> 00:27:37,721
Speaker 6: just go make it in the fucking fitness industry down

583
00:27:37,761 --> 00:27:38,561
Speaker 6: in the Gold Coast.

584
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,481
Speaker 4: And that's how I made.

585
00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 5: It down here, and what a place to do it

586
00:27:43,001 --> 00:27:45,401
Speaker 5: made where everybody wants to look a million dollars and

587
00:27:46,281 --> 00:27:50,321
Speaker 5: look I struggle personally within gyms, but I made a

588
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,721
Speaker 5: promise to myself my sons are at a point now.

589
00:27:53,561 --> 00:27:54,401
Speaker 1: With their rugby league.

590
00:27:54,441 --> 00:27:57,721
Speaker 8: They play Elite rugby League and they're in development programs

591
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,721
Speaker 8: NRL feeder club style structure.

592
00:28:00,801 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 5: So for me, I want to be able to be

593
00:28:04,681 --> 00:28:06,441
Speaker 5: a part of that journey and be a leader as

594
00:28:06,441 --> 00:28:09,521
Speaker 5: a dad and somebody that can show them they're better

595
00:28:09,561 --> 00:28:11,721
Speaker 5: way and I sort of far out, you know, I've

596
00:28:11,761 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: got to start to learn and accept that. I've got

597
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 5: to understand me and what it is I don't like

598
00:28:18,481 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 5: about being in a gym. I mean, I think for me,

599
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,961
Speaker 5: it's that whole being around so many people at once.

600
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,761
Speaker 5: I find it very over stimulating and then probably not

601
00:28:28,001 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 5: knowing exactly how to train in a gym externally or

602
00:28:32,201 --> 00:28:34,721
Speaker 5: jail training as you call it. I've got a cala

603
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 5: gym on my deck at home. All those little things

604
00:28:37,521 --> 00:28:39,321
Speaker 5: I've got no problem with. But when I walk into

605
00:28:39,361 --> 00:28:41,521
Speaker 5: a gym and I look around, I'm not at the

606
00:28:41,521 --> 00:28:44,921
Speaker 5: stands there thinking ah, eh, have fucking.

607
00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: No idea, and I do.

608
00:28:48,281 --> 00:28:49,921
Speaker 8: I'll be honest, man, I'm not ashamed to say that

609
00:28:50,001 --> 00:28:51,601
Speaker 8: I put the mask on, I'll have a little look

610
00:28:51,641 --> 00:28:53,801
Speaker 8: over here, and I'll have obviously a bit of a

611
00:28:53,801 --> 00:28:56,041
Speaker 8: plan in place, I'll research, you know, the body groups

612
00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:58,361
Speaker 8: that I want to work with, But I know there's

613
00:28:58,361 --> 00:29:00,881
Speaker 8: so many more different ways of the movements that I

614
00:29:01,001 --> 00:29:03,361
Speaker 8: should be doing or could be doing if I was

615
00:29:03,401 --> 00:29:06,761
Speaker 8: taught or guided by somebody like yourself or anyone that

616
00:29:06,801 --> 00:29:07,801
Speaker 8: could actually give me the.

617
00:29:07,761 --> 00:29:09,361
Speaker 5: Time and say, hey, now, hang on a second, this

618
00:29:09,401 --> 00:29:11,081
Speaker 5: is how you do it, and I'd probably.

619
00:29:10,881 --> 00:29:13,081
Speaker 1: Fall in love with it. I think that's the frustration.

620
00:29:13,361 --> 00:29:13,601
Speaker 4: You know.

621
00:29:13,841 --> 00:29:16,881
Speaker 5: I love seeing people out there, and we are seeing

622
00:29:16,881 --> 00:29:20,161
Speaker 5: more and more of it, living a healthier life, choosing

623
00:29:20,201 --> 00:29:23,281
Speaker 5: better ways and making those decisions, and we need people

624
00:29:23,361 --> 00:29:24,881
Speaker 5: like you, people like you.

625
00:29:24,841 --> 00:29:26,641
Speaker 1: With genuine experience.

626
00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:28,961
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't like to say this because I'm

627
00:29:28,961 --> 00:29:31,361
Speaker 5: not about putting people down, but I'm not up for

628
00:29:31,401 --> 00:29:34,521
Speaker 5: the whole textbook. Come out of UNI, do a degree

629
00:29:34,641 --> 00:29:37,121
Speaker 5: in some sort of body science or whatever, and next

630
00:29:37,121 --> 00:29:40,081
Speaker 5: minute you're a fitness trainer. It's like you jump into

631
00:29:40,121 --> 00:29:42,241
Speaker 5: a gym and you've got a pt that's never the

632
00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:44,681
Speaker 5: fucking throne of punch in his life, or wouldn't know

633
00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:46,721
Speaker 5: how older set of pads and they're standing. Then they're

634
00:29:46,721 --> 00:29:50,841
Speaker 5: putting everyone through their pace, and there I think, just stop, please,

635
00:29:50,921 --> 00:29:53,041
Speaker 5: just stop. Somebody's going to get hurt, You're going to

636
00:29:53,081 --> 00:29:53,761
Speaker 5: injure yourself.

637
00:29:54,041 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: Just just stop. You don't need to do that.

638
00:29:56,201 --> 00:29:59,961
Speaker 5: You do what you do because that's what you're trained

639
00:29:59,961 --> 00:30:00,561
Speaker 5: to do or know.

640
00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: You know, as a fighter, you understand one hundred percent training.

641
00:30:05,521 --> 00:30:08,721
Speaker 5: You understand fight training, You understand pad work, you understand

642
00:30:09,321 --> 00:30:14,361
Speaker 5: breaking down techniques, controlling emotion. You know, there's so much

643
00:30:14,441 --> 00:30:16,961
Speaker 5: more in science of art. When I call it art,

644
00:30:17,041 --> 00:30:18,641
Speaker 5: martial art, whichever way you want to look at it.

645
00:30:19,161 --> 00:30:21,121
Speaker 5: The gym would be no different. I mean, you could

646
00:30:21,121 --> 00:30:23,041
Speaker 5: walk in and I watch you training. I try to

647
00:30:23,041 --> 00:30:24,721
Speaker 5: pull a few little things, but you don't give away

648
00:30:24,761 --> 00:30:27,001
Speaker 5: too much and I respect you for that, but you

649
00:30:27,081 --> 00:30:29,521
Speaker 5: do give a little bit of information, and I get it.

650
00:30:29,561 --> 00:30:31,001
Speaker 5: You're a business, you know what I mean. If you

651
00:30:31,041 --> 00:30:33,601
Speaker 5: were to sit there and just feed your feed with

652
00:30:33,681 --> 00:30:36,521
Speaker 5: your knowledge, why would people bother them coming to you,

653
00:30:36,521 --> 00:30:39,601
Speaker 5: you know, to probably reduce your normal sort of every

654
00:30:39,641 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 5: week roster, because why.

655
00:30:41,281 --> 00:30:42,441
Speaker 1: Would I have to come to you if I can

656
00:30:42,481 --> 00:30:44,121
Speaker 1: just watch on the thing and go to a gym

657
00:30:44,161 --> 00:30:48,241
Speaker 1: and just reenact exactly what you're doing. Insane. So that's

658
00:30:48,281 --> 00:30:49,121
Speaker 1: how I look at it.

659
00:30:49,161 --> 00:30:51,361
Speaker 5: You know, I could be wrong in saying that, forgive

660
00:30:51,401 --> 00:30:53,721
Speaker 5: me if I am, But you know, I think that's

661
00:30:53,721 --> 00:30:54,401
Speaker 5: smart business.

662
00:30:54,441 --> 00:30:57,121
Speaker 1: And credit to you. You've worked very hard to have

663
00:30:57,201 --> 00:30:58,561
Speaker 1: that credential, to be able.

664
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Speaker 5: To give people the best possible opportunity at finding their

665
00:31:01,841 --> 00:31:02,561
Speaker 5: better selves.

666
00:31:02,601 --> 00:31:02,801
Speaker 4: Mate.

667
00:31:02,841 --> 00:31:05,041
Speaker 1: It is an awesome journey watching, I can tell you

668
00:31:05,281 --> 00:31:06,721
Speaker 1: from a far Thanks.

669
00:31:06,761 --> 00:31:07,001
Speaker 4: Mate.

670
00:31:07,041 --> 00:31:10,801
Speaker 6: It's like you're saying, you know, I've seen plenty of

671
00:31:10,841 --> 00:31:12,041
Speaker 6: textbook sort of stuff.

672
00:31:12,081 --> 00:31:14,161
Speaker 4: You know, they've got all the gear but no idea.

673
00:31:14,281 --> 00:31:18,961
Speaker 6: And I've sort of built my sort of business around

674
00:31:19,201 --> 00:31:21,561
Speaker 6: who I actually am as a character because I've lived

675
00:31:21,561 --> 00:31:24,161
Speaker 6: in breath like you know, I've been training probably longer

676
00:31:24,201 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 6: than most of these people have been alive, you know,

677
00:31:26,401 --> 00:31:31,281
Speaker 6: and I think I've been down every walk of exercise

678
00:31:31,361 --> 00:31:33,401
Speaker 6: you could think of, you know, and that makes me

679
00:31:33,561 --> 00:31:36,681
Speaker 6: like an all arounder, you know, So I've got knowledge

680
00:31:36,681 --> 00:31:39,641
Speaker 6: in so many different fields when it comes to this

681
00:31:39,721 --> 00:31:42,641
Speaker 6: sort of stuff. One thing I see a lot of

682
00:31:42,681 --> 00:31:46,561
Speaker 6: people do is you've got to be a certain sort

683
00:31:46,561 --> 00:31:47,601
Speaker 6: of character as well.

684
00:31:47,641 --> 00:31:47,841
Speaker 7: Mate.

685
00:31:47,881 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 6: It's not all about you know, you just knowing the

686
00:31:50,601 --> 00:31:54,161
Speaker 6: scientific stuff, but you know, like if you don't hold

687
00:31:54,201 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 6: yourself a certain way, and if you don't have the

688
00:31:56,281 --> 00:31:58,961
Speaker 6: people's skills and all that to go with it, you're

689
00:31:59,001 --> 00:32:02,161
Speaker 6: only ever going to go so far. Like you see

690
00:32:02,201 --> 00:32:04,801
Speaker 6: it in so many different sports, where you can have

691
00:32:04,841 --> 00:32:07,561
Speaker 6: a really good boxer, but that doesn't mean he's going

692
00:32:07,601 --> 00:32:10,521
Speaker 6: to be a good coach, you know, and vice versa.

693
00:32:10,601 --> 00:32:14,161
Speaker 6: You know, like I've seen, I've seen tennis fucking coaches

694
00:32:14,201 --> 00:32:17,321
Speaker 6: who aren't even tennis players been training the best fucking

695
00:32:17,321 --> 00:32:19,161
Speaker 6: tennis players in the world, you know what I mean.

696
00:32:19,241 --> 00:32:21,641
Speaker 4: It's not about if.

697
00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:24,721
Speaker 6: You're actually really good at that one particular thing.

698
00:32:24,841 --> 00:32:28,161
Speaker 4: Being a coach and a trainer is two different things.

699
00:32:29,361 --> 00:32:31,841
Speaker 5: We're talking about this yesterday, just a group of men

700
00:32:32,161 --> 00:32:34,721
Speaker 5: chatting about just boxing in general. And I'm the first

701
00:32:34,721 --> 00:32:36,881
Speaker 5: to put my hand up that, you know, I've never

702
00:32:36,881 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: had a boxing about. Yeah, okay, I can bang and

703
00:32:39,241 --> 00:32:41,681
Speaker 5: whatever you want to go, you know, but the art

704
00:32:41,681 --> 00:32:44,521
Speaker 5: of muy Thai is my love and passion. I'm very

705
00:32:44,561 --> 00:32:48,721
Speaker 5: confident in that space, but boxing not so confident. And

706
00:32:48,761 --> 00:32:51,081
Speaker 5: we were only just touching on the fact that how

707
00:32:51,121 --> 00:32:55,601
Speaker 5: amazing it is within some gyms where you'll find blokes

708
00:32:55,681 --> 00:32:59,401
Speaker 5: that are just so knowledgeable, never ever been over the ropes,

709
00:33:00,161 --> 00:33:03,401
Speaker 5: could have been a world champion, Like, it's endless what

710
00:33:03,441 --> 00:33:06,641
Speaker 5: they possibly could have achieved within the sport, but are

711
00:33:06,681 --> 00:33:11,321
Speaker 5: just happy training, being there, supporting other fighters, no egos,

712
00:33:11,921 --> 00:33:13,881
Speaker 5: no desire to want to have to sort.

713
00:33:13,721 --> 00:33:16,321
Speaker 1: Of get in there and win belts. But they are

714
00:33:16,361 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: some of the most technical and knowledgeable people. And if

715
00:33:20,481 --> 00:33:23,081
Speaker 1: you can have a couple of them around you, mate,

716
00:33:23,161 --> 00:33:25,841
Speaker 1: you are blessed. I truly believe in that one.

717
00:33:25,761 --> 00:33:28,561
Speaker 6: Hundred percent, mate, Like I've got friends from over the

718
00:33:28,641 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 6: years where, Mate, they would punch the piss out of

719
00:33:31,801 --> 00:33:35,361
Speaker 6: most people that walk this fucking earth, but they don't

720
00:33:35,441 --> 00:33:37,641
Speaker 6: care about that sort of stuff. You know, they're just

721
00:33:37,681 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: happy just doing their thing, just training, and they just

722
00:33:40,801 --> 00:33:42,921
Speaker 6: they just love it. You know. It doesn't mean that

723
00:33:42,961 --> 00:33:45,001
Speaker 6: they want to compete against anybody else.

724
00:33:45,201 --> 00:33:45,961
Speaker 4: There's so many.

725
00:33:46,121 --> 00:33:48,041
Speaker 6: And then I've got on the other hand, where like

726
00:33:48,081 --> 00:33:51,361
Speaker 6: you were saying, I've got fucking friends that never fucking

727
00:33:51,441 --> 00:33:53,921
Speaker 6: throwing a fucking punch in their life, but they're very

728
00:33:54,001 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 6: fucking educated in how to actually train someone a certain

729
00:33:57,801 --> 00:34:00,241
Speaker 6: way to get the best performance out of their body,

730
00:34:00,281 --> 00:34:02,801
Speaker 6: and even attacking their mental state as well, you know,

731
00:34:02,961 --> 00:34:06,561
Speaker 6: getting them in the right headspace because as you would know, mate,

732
00:34:06,601 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 6: like you can be a really good fighter that doesn't mean,

733
00:34:09,481 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 6: you can go walk out in front of everyone at

734
00:34:11,961 --> 00:34:15,041
Speaker 6: a particular time, under all the fucking lights and bells

735
00:34:15,041 --> 00:34:18,561
Speaker 6: and whistles, and then perform right when that bell goes,

736
00:34:18,601 --> 00:34:21,641
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Because everyone can fucking get

737
00:34:21,721 --> 00:34:24,161
Speaker 6: upset at a certain time and then throw a few

738
00:34:24,201 --> 00:34:27,161
Speaker 6: fucking punches at each other and have a fight. But

739
00:34:27,281 --> 00:34:29,641
Speaker 6: when there's a big build up and there's the fucking

740
00:34:29,721 --> 00:34:32,961
Speaker 6: press conferences or there's fucking you know, everyone's looking at you,

741
00:34:33,001 --> 00:34:35,721
Speaker 6: everyone's expecting you to do something. You know a lot

742
00:34:35,721 --> 00:34:38,481
Speaker 6: of people fucking buckle under that pressure as well. You know,

743
00:34:38,961 --> 00:34:41,841
Speaker 6: they could be a fucking awesome fighter, but some people

744
00:34:42,641 --> 00:34:46,801
Speaker 6: end up just being Jim Jim Spars and some people

745
00:34:46,841 --> 00:34:48,401
Speaker 6: are fucking born for the lights.

746
00:34:48,401 --> 00:34:50,961
Speaker 1: Mate, you know, I want to ask you something.

747
00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:54,881
Speaker 5: Firstly, let's let's give you your business a plug here,

748
00:34:54,921 --> 00:34:58,081
Speaker 5: because I think it's important people need to know where

749
00:34:58,121 --> 00:35:00,761
Speaker 5: they can find you and reach out to you. So, mate,

750
00:35:00,761 --> 00:35:04,321
Speaker 5: please tell everybody about your business and how they can

751
00:35:04,321 --> 00:35:05,041
Speaker 5: contact you.

752
00:35:05,521 --> 00:35:10,041
Speaker 6: Well, my business name is Marxie Fit and Marxie is

753
00:35:10,081 --> 00:35:13,161
Speaker 6: obviously my nickname that my mate gave me back when

754
00:35:13,161 --> 00:35:16,241
Speaker 6: I was a kid, and being my last name being

755
00:35:16,321 --> 00:35:20,481
Speaker 6: Marx and what I've done is obviously I've built this

756
00:35:20,641 --> 00:35:23,121
Speaker 6: on just who I am as a person, you know,

757
00:35:23,241 --> 00:35:26,561
Speaker 6: and I think that I try and show that as

758
00:35:26,641 --> 00:35:29,721
Speaker 6: much as I can. Of Like, I'm not trying to

759
00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:32,081
Speaker 6: just be some pt down at a gym, you know.

760
00:35:32,121 --> 00:35:36,481
Speaker 6: I'm trying to show people that have come from similar

761
00:35:36,521 --> 00:35:40,081
Speaker 6: sorts of fucking backgrounds to me how to sort of

762
00:35:40,441 --> 00:35:43,081
Speaker 6: get themselves in a better position in their life. And

763
00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:45,801
Speaker 6: you know, it's not all about just going and chucking

764
00:35:45,841 --> 00:35:48,201
Speaker 6: a few dumbbells around at a gym, you know, that's

765
00:35:48,321 --> 00:35:51,361
Speaker 6: just that's a bonus to it. You know. I'm more

766
00:35:51,401 --> 00:35:54,641
Speaker 6: about trying to build people up and fucking you know,

767
00:35:54,801 --> 00:35:57,721
Speaker 6: get them to live a better life for themselves and

768
00:35:57,761 --> 00:36:00,121
Speaker 6: their families as well. You know, if I can build

769
00:36:00,121 --> 00:36:02,441
Speaker 6: them up mentally, then all this other stuff will just

770
00:36:02,481 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 6: snowball from there.

771
00:36:03,681 --> 00:36:05,721
Speaker 4: So that's been my brand.

772
00:36:06,001 --> 00:36:09,361
Speaker 6: I don't sort of want to be sort of set

773
00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:11,601
Speaker 6: just as a trainer in a gym, you know, Like,

774
00:36:11,801 --> 00:36:14,201
Speaker 6: I think I bring a lot more to the table

775
00:36:14,241 --> 00:36:17,041
Speaker 6: than that when it comes with life experience as well.

776
00:36:18,721 --> 00:36:21,361
Speaker 5: I think too, the fact that you know, your appearance

777
00:36:21,441 --> 00:36:25,241
Speaker 5: can be quite intimidating for most they'd probably look at

778
00:36:25,281 --> 00:36:27,201
Speaker 5: you and think, well, they.

779
00:36:27,201 --> 00:36:29,001
Speaker 1: Want to sort of go near that bloke or upseting.

780
00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:30,641
Speaker 5: But you know, at the end of the day, you're

781
00:36:30,641 --> 00:36:35,281
Speaker 5: a very approachable man, quietly spoken in present and a gentleman.

782
00:36:36,521 --> 00:36:38,881
Speaker 1: And I'll say that from the moment that I actually

783
00:36:39,161 --> 00:36:44,721
Speaker 1: met you. You know, like and if people want that style.

784
00:36:44,441 --> 00:36:46,721
Speaker 5: Of realness and I call it, you know, a no

785
00:36:46,921 --> 00:36:49,401
Speaker 5: bullshit policy, because you're not the sort of like to

786
00:36:49,401 --> 00:36:52,401
Speaker 5: sit there and feed someone's ego and film full of shit.

787
00:36:53,041 --> 00:36:55,161
Speaker 1: You'd be the sort of coach that you would need

788
00:36:55,561 --> 00:36:56,441
Speaker 1: to be better.

789
00:36:56,841 --> 00:37:00,161
Speaker 5: And then you know, with the growth, give the pad

790
00:37:00,241 --> 00:37:04,841
Speaker 5: on the back and uplift that that client. And you know,

791
00:37:04,881 --> 00:37:08,481
Speaker 5: they're pretty rare these days because everybody's all about you know,

792
00:37:08,521 --> 00:37:11,721
Speaker 5: this this short fame that they think that they're going

793
00:37:11,801 --> 00:37:14,481
Speaker 5: to get over the Internet through all their different little platforms.

794
00:37:14,561 --> 00:37:16,801
Speaker 5: And you know who can have the sexiest tits and

795
00:37:16,881 --> 00:37:19,201
Speaker 5: ass popping out? And you know the bloke with the

796
00:37:19,201 --> 00:37:22,641
Speaker 5: biggest chests from bicet and legs. I don't see that

797
00:37:22,721 --> 00:37:25,641
Speaker 5: in any of your stuff. I see you genuinely training

798
00:37:26,201 --> 00:37:28,521
Speaker 5: and as I said, you've got a phenomenal pH zeke

799
00:37:28,841 --> 00:37:29,321
Speaker 5: and you.

800
00:37:29,441 --> 00:37:30,561
Speaker 1: Just you can't hide it.

801
00:37:31,121 --> 00:37:35,201
Speaker 5: But you being you would be so valuable to a

802
00:37:35,241 --> 00:37:38,801
Speaker 5: client that is not confident within themselves, that may feel

803
00:37:38,841 --> 00:37:42,961
Speaker 5: that you know that they're intimidated. As I said about

804
00:37:43,001 --> 00:37:46,321
Speaker 5: being present amongst a group of people training when they

805
00:37:46,321 --> 00:37:49,441
Speaker 5: feel that they probably don't know where or when to

806
00:37:49,521 --> 00:37:52,721
Speaker 5: do what's next, because some of us can and do

807
00:37:52,801 --> 00:37:54,961
Speaker 5: feel so I feel silly, you know, I sit there

808
00:37:54,961 --> 00:37:57,401
Speaker 5: and I know basics, but then I think I could

809
00:37:57,401 --> 00:37:58,361
Speaker 5: be doing so much more.

810
00:37:58,481 --> 00:37:59,601
Speaker 1: Or do I just slide out the door.

811
00:37:59,681 --> 00:38:01,641
Speaker 5: Now I've been in and had a super set session

812
00:38:01,681 --> 00:38:03,441
Speaker 5: for thirty five forty minutes, I'm done.

813
00:38:03,641 --> 00:38:05,761
Speaker 1: I can feel a bit of a pump out our gay,

814
00:38:05,881 --> 00:38:08,641
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But really, was it a

815
00:38:08,641 --> 00:38:11,121
Speaker 1: proper session? Did I get the best out of that session?

816
00:38:12,561 --> 00:38:15,121
Speaker 5: I'm guessing not, you know, and I'm guessing that's because

817
00:38:15,161 --> 00:38:18,881
Speaker 5: the lack of my gym knowledge. Two things I want

818
00:38:18,921 --> 00:38:22,081
Speaker 5: to ask of you before we leave this afternoon, and

819
00:38:22,121 --> 00:38:24,401
Speaker 5: they're always questions that I like to be able to

820
00:38:24,401 --> 00:38:27,441
Speaker 5: have in our digital toolbox to encourage others and to

821
00:38:27,441 --> 00:38:30,561
Speaker 5: give people an insight into knowing that they can be

822
00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:32,041
Speaker 5: the best version of themselves.

823
00:38:32,361 --> 00:38:35,521
Speaker 1: Firstly, from your own lived experience.

824
00:38:37,001 --> 00:38:41,801
Speaker 5: Adversity, finding the strength within to be able to sort

825
00:38:41,801 --> 00:38:42,681
Speaker 5: of get through some of.

826
00:38:42,681 --> 00:38:44,001
Speaker 1: The hardest times in your life.

827
00:38:45,041 --> 00:38:47,281
Speaker 5: What would you say to a young person out there,

828
00:38:47,401 --> 00:38:52,081
Speaker 5: or anybody at the moment that's listening today about how

829
00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:55,161
Speaker 5: they can then believe in themselves to be able to

830
00:38:55,161 --> 00:38:59,001
Speaker 5: come forward and just be present and find happiness and

831
00:38:59,041 --> 00:39:01,481
Speaker 5: find joy within life.

832
00:39:02,241 --> 00:39:04,841
Speaker 6: Well, mate, I've sort of been asked this a couple

833
00:39:04,881 --> 00:39:09,241
Speaker 6: of times, and as a young kid, I did it myself,

834
00:39:09,321 --> 00:39:12,441
Speaker 6: you know, like I was always asking questions.

835
00:39:12,481 --> 00:39:14,281
Speaker 4: I was always seeking sort of.

836
00:39:16,321 --> 00:39:19,001
Speaker 6: Knowledge of you know, all the things that used to

837
00:39:19,121 --> 00:39:21,481
Speaker 6: run around in my mind. You know, I always used

838
00:39:21,481 --> 00:39:24,961
Speaker 6: to try and find answers. And I find that that's

839
00:39:25,001 --> 00:39:28,441
Speaker 6: a big valuable tool that I've I've never been scared

840
00:39:28,481 --> 00:39:32,561
Speaker 6: to ask questions and fucking you know, seek, seek fucking

841
00:39:32,761 --> 00:39:33,481
Speaker 6: an answer.

842
00:39:33,721 --> 00:39:35,121
Speaker 4: And I.

843
00:39:36,641 --> 00:39:40,561
Speaker 6: Truly believe like young people these days, like especially like

844
00:39:40,721 --> 00:39:42,801
Speaker 6: these days, I feel like they're a bit of a

845
00:39:43,601 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 6: They're a bit introverted, you know, they're spending a little

846
00:39:46,481 --> 00:39:49,161
Speaker 6: bit too much time on fucking like you know, like

847
00:39:49,401 --> 00:39:52,121
Speaker 6: the Internet and all this whether not having that social

848
00:39:52,241 --> 00:39:55,841
Speaker 6: fucking interaction like we did as kids because we didn't

849
00:39:55,881 --> 00:39:57,801
Speaker 6: have any of this sort of stuff. So we're always

850
00:39:57,881 --> 00:40:02,321
Speaker 6: out fucking mingling with people and doing whatever where. Most

851
00:40:02,321 --> 00:40:04,841
Speaker 6: of these people these days, if they are out mingling,

852
00:40:05,161 --> 00:40:08,361
Speaker 6: usually under the influence of something anyway, you know. And

853
00:40:09,681 --> 00:40:13,441
Speaker 6: one thing that I think I did a lot differently

854
00:40:13,561 --> 00:40:17,801
Speaker 6: to most people is I stand in the fucking mirror

855
00:40:17,921 --> 00:40:21,081
Speaker 6: and I just asked myself then questions, you know, and

856
00:40:21,121 --> 00:40:25,241
Speaker 6: then I started giving myself answers as well. And I

857
00:40:25,281 --> 00:40:27,281
Speaker 6: think the more that you can fucking have a look

858
00:40:27,321 --> 00:40:30,121
Speaker 6: at yourself, the more you're going to be able to

859
00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:33,401
Speaker 6: fix yourself as well. If you just keep fucking pointing

860
00:40:33,481 --> 00:40:36,761
Speaker 6: fingers and fucking blame and fucking everything else in your life,

861
00:40:37,321 --> 00:40:39,681
Speaker 6: I think you're going to go around that roundabout affair

862
00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:44,961
Speaker 6: a few times, you know. So I believe fucking be

863
00:40:45,241 --> 00:40:48,041
Speaker 6: raw and honest with yourself. It's just you VERSU. You

864
00:40:48,041 --> 00:40:50,961
Speaker 6: look yourself in the fucking mirror and address all the

865
00:40:51,001 --> 00:40:51,641
Speaker 6: fucking shit.

866
00:40:51,801 --> 00:40:52,001
Speaker 4: You know.

867
00:40:53,361 --> 00:40:54,481
Speaker 1: Love that, I really do.

868
00:40:54,681 --> 00:40:57,321
Speaker 5: So for guys out there listening, take note of that one,

869
00:40:57,721 --> 00:41:00,361
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of value in what you just said, then, brother,

870
00:41:00,641 --> 00:41:04,681
Speaker 5: And yeah, I really do respect that. Last but not least,

871
00:41:05,241 --> 00:41:08,121
Speaker 5: And I guess this is a little bit about me.

872
00:41:08,281 --> 00:41:12,081
Speaker 5: I suppose I'm going to ask the question, and there'd

873
00:41:12,121 --> 00:41:13,761
Speaker 5: be people out there that had feel the same.

874
00:41:14,881 --> 00:41:18,161
Speaker 1: How do you find that confidence to walk into a gym.

875
00:41:18,441 --> 00:41:23,041
Speaker 5: And enjoy a proper gym session, whether the gym's packed

876
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,601
Speaker 5: you're waiting on machines, or whether it's empty and it's

877
00:41:25,641 --> 00:41:27,321
Speaker 5: just you and the cameras at three point thirty in

878
00:41:27,401 --> 00:41:31,481
Speaker 5: the morning, How do you find that that ability to

879
00:41:31,601 --> 00:41:35,041
Speaker 5: just just have a I don't know, I don't know

880
00:41:36,161 --> 00:41:38,401
Speaker 5: where I where do I find that strength to just

881
00:41:38,401 --> 00:41:40,281
Speaker 5: to be able to go in there and feel confident

882
00:41:40,281 --> 00:41:42,241
Speaker 5: that I can go in there and have a proper session,

883
00:41:42,841 --> 00:41:43,481
Speaker 5: walk out of.

884
00:41:43,441 --> 00:41:44,921
Speaker 1: There, and go that was fucking good.

885
00:41:45,361 --> 00:41:47,921
Speaker 6: Well going with a plan. You know a lot of

886
00:41:47,961 --> 00:41:50,081
Speaker 6: people just go in and wing it and then they

887
00:41:50,201 --> 00:41:52,201
Speaker 6: end up just going around in circles like you were

888
00:41:52,241 --> 00:41:54,601
Speaker 6: saying before, you know, like you're like, oh, I fucking

889
00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:57,361
Speaker 6: maybe I'll do this, or maybe I'll do this because

890
00:41:57,361 --> 00:42:00,161
Speaker 6: you've got no structure, You've got no plan. So make

891
00:42:00,201 --> 00:42:02,321
Speaker 6: sure when you go there you've got a plan in

892
00:42:02,361 --> 00:42:04,281
Speaker 6: your head. Even if you go and just do a

893
00:42:04,321 --> 00:42:07,161
Speaker 6: little stretch first and scope you out a fucking machine

894
00:42:07,161 --> 00:42:11,081
Speaker 6: that might not be available just yet or whatever. But

895
00:42:11,361 --> 00:42:13,881
Speaker 6: going with a plan, even if you go to a

896
00:42:13,921 --> 00:42:16,201
Speaker 6: treadmill and walk on a treadmill just for a second

897
00:42:16,201 --> 00:42:18,921
Speaker 6: and just to get your bearings and fucking get your

898
00:42:18,921 --> 00:42:22,041
Speaker 6: confidence up a little bit, and then stick to your plan,

899
00:42:22,121 --> 00:42:24,681
Speaker 6: whatever your plan is from the start, just fucking stick

900
00:42:24,721 --> 00:42:28,401
Speaker 6: to it. Don't fucking let your mind sort of diffuse that,

901
00:42:28,561 --> 00:42:30,641
Speaker 6: you know, stick to what you want to do before

902
00:42:30,641 --> 00:42:33,761
Speaker 6: you even walk in the gym. Just remember too that

903
00:42:34,281 --> 00:42:37,161
Speaker 6: no one's looking at you, no one's judging you. If

904
00:42:37,201 --> 00:42:41,361
Speaker 6: any anyone's opinion that's worth value is they're going to

905
00:42:41,401 --> 00:42:43,641
Speaker 6: look at you go good on you for fucking getting

906
00:42:43,641 --> 00:42:46,041
Speaker 6: in here and having a crack, not the other way around.

907
00:42:46,441 --> 00:42:49,121
Speaker 6: People aren't looking at you. They're not thinking you're silly

908
00:42:49,241 --> 00:42:51,881
Speaker 6: or anything like that. If anything, they're like, fucking good

909
00:42:51,921 --> 00:42:54,721
Speaker 6: on you. So don't ever put that into your mind

910
00:42:54,801 --> 00:42:56,881
Speaker 6: that people are looking at you like you don't know

911
00:42:56,961 --> 00:43:00,841
Speaker 6: what you're fucking doing. Everyone walked into that gym on

912
00:43:01,001 --> 00:43:01,641
Speaker 6: day one.

913
00:43:01,521 --> 00:43:02,161
Speaker 4: At some day.

914
00:43:03,801 --> 00:43:05,761
Speaker 1: I did a real the other day and I hit

915
00:43:05,841 --> 00:43:06,441
Speaker 1: the gym.

916
00:43:06,201 --> 00:43:08,601
Speaker 5: I have insomnia, and it was about quarter to four

917
00:43:08,641 --> 00:43:11,041
Speaker 5: in the morning and I was feeling like shit and

918
00:43:11,121 --> 00:43:13,401
Speaker 5: I haven't been able to run lately just due to

919
00:43:13,401 --> 00:43:13,921
Speaker 5: my hips.

920
00:43:14,361 --> 00:43:16,481
Speaker 1: So I wanted to do something and I went to

921
00:43:16,521 --> 00:43:16,881
Speaker 1: the gym.

922
00:43:17,321 --> 00:43:18,961
Speaker 5: When I left the gym, it was starting to get

923
00:43:19,001 --> 00:43:20,721
Speaker 5: quite packed, and you know, it was a bit of

924
00:43:20,761 --> 00:43:21,641
Speaker 5: a rush hour.

925
00:43:22,521 --> 00:43:24,241
Speaker 1: And I got in the car and I thought, fuck.

926
00:43:24,281 --> 00:43:28,081
Speaker 5: You know, like I explained just honestly and openly how

927
00:43:28,241 --> 00:43:31,361
Speaker 5: I feel about being in a gym and that I

928
00:43:31,441 --> 00:43:34,241
Speaker 5: have promised myself this year to learn to love it.

929
00:43:35,161 --> 00:43:37,601
Speaker 5: And one thing I noticed, in relation to what you

930
00:43:37,681 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 5: just said then, is everybody's in there doing the same

931
00:43:41,001 --> 00:43:43,441
Speaker 5: thing when you say when I say that, everybody's in

932
00:43:43,481 --> 00:43:46,721
Speaker 5: there just trying to better themselves or they're trying to

933
00:43:46,721 --> 00:43:49,161
Speaker 5: get rid of the demons that are sitting in the head.

934
00:43:49,241 --> 00:43:52,921
Speaker 5: You know, that the bad noise that's there that you know,

935
00:43:53,001 --> 00:43:56,361
Speaker 5: they just that's their out, that's where they feel good,

936
00:43:57,001 --> 00:43:57,201
Speaker 5: you know.

937
00:43:57,281 --> 00:43:59,521
Speaker 1: And just all of a sudden it hit me and

938
00:43:59,561 --> 00:44:04,161
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, just because I'm a novice at this,

939
00:44:05,281 --> 00:44:07,241
Speaker 1: I'm no different to that bloke that's a pro that's

940
00:44:07,241 --> 00:44:10,241
Speaker 1: standing out. They're prepping for a comp you know, like

941
00:44:10,361 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: we are all in this space because it's a good

942
00:44:13,521 --> 00:44:16,241
Speaker 1: place to be, it's a healthy place to be, and

943
00:44:16,281 --> 00:44:18,161
Speaker 1: it's something that is only going to give you a

944
00:44:18,201 --> 00:44:19,761
Speaker 1: positive for your day ahead.

945
00:44:20,281 --> 00:44:24,841
Speaker 5: And at that moment, I felt a shift within me

946
00:44:25,281 --> 00:44:29,081
Speaker 5: and I want to I want to be able to

947
00:44:29,161 --> 00:44:32,001
Speaker 5: enjoy it. And I think if people actually took that

948
00:44:32,081 --> 00:44:34,201
Speaker 5: step through the doors, because I really do feel there's

949
00:44:34,201 --> 00:44:36,321
Speaker 5: a lot of people that feel intimidated by walking in

950
00:44:36,321 --> 00:44:41,841
Speaker 5: the gyms and if we can break that stigma. You

951
00:44:41,921 --> 00:44:45,321
Speaker 5: just clearly said it there in answering those two questions,

952
00:44:45,361 --> 00:44:46,601
Speaker 5: and thank you very much for that.

953
00:44:47,321 --> 00:44:50,521
Speaker 6: Like, you've got to remember, mate, we're all there for

954
00:44:50,561 --> 00:44:53,201
Speaker 6: the same thing, you know what I mean. We're all

955
00:44:53,201 --> 00:44:56,841
Speaker 6: there to better ourselves. We might have different things of

956
00:44:56,921 --> 00:44:59,881
Speaker 6: why we're actually but it's all to better ourselves. It

957
00:44:59,921 --> 00:45:02,081
Speaker 6: doesn't matter which angle it is. It might be for

958
00:45:02,681 --> 00:45:05,321
Speaker 6: someone who likes to eat fucking cake every day so

959
00:45:05,361 --> 00:45:08,041
Speaker 6: they're just trying to burn calories because they like to

960
00:45:08,121 --> 00:45:10,121
Speaker 6: do that so they don't put on any more weight.

961
00:45:10,161 --> 00:45:12,841
Speaker 6: And there's people that want to sculpture their body a

962
00:45:12,881 --> 00:45:18,641
Speaker 6: certain way, and there's other self esteem stuff like you know,

963
00:45:18,921 --> 00:45:22,841
Speaker 6: there's all different types of angles, but it's all the

964
00:45:22,881 --> 00:45:26,441
Speaker 6: same thing. We're there to better ourselves. So just remember

965
00:45:26,481 --> 00:45:28,881
Speaker 6: that when you walk into the gymires like we're all

966
00:45:28,921 --> 00:45:31,681
Speaker 6: there for the same reason. You earn your spot just

967
00:45:31,721 --> 00:45:33,241
Speaker 6: as much as anyone else does.

968
00:45:34,841 --> 00:45:37,081
Speaker 5: Well, De Marks, I just want to say, mate, thank you.

969
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Speaker 5: It's been an honor to have you here this afternoon.

970
00:45:39,521 --> 00:45:42,801
Speaker 5: I appreciate you giving up your time. It was our

971
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Speaker 5: second round trying to make this happen due to a

972
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Speaker 5: little bit of a technical glitch on the first round.

973
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Speaker 1: We got it done. We're here now.

974
00:45:49,441 --> 00:45:52,761
Speaker 5: And I'm an honor honored to be able to deliver

975
00:45:52,881 --> 00:45:55,401
Speaker 5: your journey to the world through the clink. So mate,

976
00:45:55,441 --> 00:45:59,921
Speaker 5: congratulations on every step forward you've made and keep inspiring.

977
00:46:00,521 --> 00:46:03,281
Speaker 5: I'm going to keep following your lead, and for anybody

978
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Speaker 5: else out there, jump over to easy Instagram page and

979
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Speaker 5: you'll find a lot of worth there. I do enjoy

980
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Speaker 5: it and thank you very much mate.

981
00:46:12,521 --> 00:46:13,521
Speaker 1: You're an absolute gentleman.

982
00:46:14,081 --> 00:46:16,761
Speaker 6: Thanks very much, mate, appreciate you having me on and

983
00:46:17,761 --> 00:46:19,841
Speaker 6: all the best for everything that you're doing. I think

984
00:46:19,881 --> 00:46:24,561
Speaker 6: you're doing amazing things, mate, and I appreciate everything.

985
00:46:25,921 --> 00:46:29,681
Speaker 5: Very legend Well, there you have it, guys. Mate, if

986
00:46:29,721 --> 00:46:33,081
Speaker 5: you need to know anything, hit d Marks up. Here's

987
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Speaker 5: the man, and I say that very strongly. You'll see

988
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Speaker 5: for yourself, and if anybody else out there is looking

989
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Speaker 5: for pressure washing or self washing on the Gold Coast,

990
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Speaker 5: just remember to hit Clink Clean pressure washing. We are

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Speaker 5: on the Gold Coast. No job too small, too big, commercial,

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Speaker 5: all residential. We have it or we're are fully insured,

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Speaker 5: drop us a DM for me to you. Thank you

995
00:47:00,681 --> 00:47:03,721
Speaker 5: very much in listening to another great episode here on

996
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Speaker 5: the Clink, and we look forward to bringing you another

997
00:47:06,321 --> 00:47:07,361
Speaker 5: one very soon.

998
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Speaker 1: Have a great day.

999
00:47:10,081 --> 00:47:12,281
Speaker 2: For the record, I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable.

1000
00:47:13,001 --> 00:47:15,041
Speaker 2: Pride for the record. You ain't trying to grow any

1001
00:47:15,041 --> 00:47:15,481
Speaker 2: stuff for.

1002
00:47:15,441 --> 00:47:17,321
Speaker 1: You, Pride for the record.

1003
00:47:17,521 --> 00:47:20,561
Speaker 2: Laugh on me going all the way for the record.

1004
00:47:20,721 --> 00:47:23,121
Speaker 2: Ain't trying to link no time to waste, stop all.

1005
00:47:23,081 --> 00:47:26,801
Speaker 3: That for the record, for the record. Yeah for the

1006
00:47:28,161 --> 00:47:32,081
Speaker 3: for the record, for the record. Yeah for the record,

1007
00:47:33,041 --> 00:47:33,721
Speaker 3: for the record.

1008
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Speaker 1: Mhm hm