Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Something to Talk About The Stellar Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Sarah Lamarquin, your host, and every week I sit
Speaker 1: down with some of the biggest names in the country
Speaker 1: because when Australia's celebrities are ready to talk, they come
Speaker 1: to Something to talk about. Just over twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: Delta Gudrum found herself at a turning point, not only
Speaker 1: in her career but also her life, having undergone chemotherapy
Speaker 1: and radiation after being diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, The then teenage pop star was about
Speaker 1: to unveil a whole new version of herself, as hinted
Speaker 1: at by the name of the album she would release
Speaker 1: a day before her twentieth birthday, Mistaken Identity. On today's episode,
Speaker 1: Delta joins me in the studio to reflect on that
Speaker 1: turbulent chapter of her life and how it has brought
Speaker 1: her to where she is the age of forty, happily
Speaker 1: engaged touring the world, writing new music, and launching her
Speaker 1: own record label. Delta Gudrum, Welcome to the Stellar Podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. It is lovely
Speaker 2: to have you here.
Speaker 1: You today are marking your eighth appearance on the cover
Speaker 1: of Stellar, and yet first time in the podcast studio,
Speaker 1: first time you and I have sat down for an interview.
Speaker 1: Since you may not remember this, but November two thousand
Speaker 1: and two was in Melbourne. You were on Neighbors and
Speaker 1: were just preparing to release a little old song called
Speaker 1: Born to Try, and I was at a magazine at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: So it is really lovely.
Speaker 1: And I've seen you around over the years and of
Speaker 1: course been a privilege have you on the cover of
Speaker 1: Stella eight times, but first time you and me chatting
Speaker 1: in a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the perfect number. It's an octave, you know,
Speaker 2: It's like from one chapter to the nair it's an
Speaker 2: octave on the piano scale. And I'm very honored to
Speaker 2: have been on the cover that many times with you
Speaker 2: all and collaborated throughout the years. It's always nice to
Speaker 2: have another diary, where another journal, a check in point
Speaker 2: where you say, let's talk about where we're at right now,
Speaker 2: Where are we at now on the different moments we've
Speaker 2: gone through. When I was coming here and i'd seen
Speaker 2: the eight different covers that we had shared, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like going back in time where I was going
Speaker 2: oh that was going on there, that was going on,
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful to be able to, you know, share
Speaker 2: share a voice of what's happening when a season is
Speaker 2: happening in life that you know, my life in the
Speaker 2: public eye has gone on. It's so true.
Speaker 1: They really are little time capsule moments, because obviously the
Speaker 1: first one was late twenty sixteen, and then we're here
Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty five, so that's coming up to
Speaker 1: a decade. I'm not sure how many keys that is
Speaker 1: inter optive on the piano. I will leave that to
Speaker 1: the lyricist, but they do represent moments in your life,
Speaker 1: of course, and then also reflect moments in the wider culture.
Speaker 1: For instance, one of those covers, possibly too fell within COVID,
Speaker 1: and that was reflected that it was a lot more
Speaker 1: scaled back and the fires.
Speaker 2: There was there was we were in Los Angeles and
Speaker 2: you know, it was twenty twenty in the face just
Speaker 2: before COVID had happened and the fires had had started
Speaker 2: in Australia, and I remember we did a cover from
Speaker 2: there as well together about that. That's right.
Speaker 1: So they are these little moments like that, but more
Speaker 1: times on the cover than anyone else which given the
Speaker 1: big role call of famous Australians and international superstars that
Speaker 1: have been on the cover of Stella, there's really should
Speaker 1: be a prize here, but let's sett off for a
Speaker 1: sparkling sparkling off of soft drinks.
Speaker 2: This is all I need, a lot of sparkle.
Speaker 1: It's you mentioned there the bush fires of Australia, and
Speaker 1: of course you spend a lot of your time in
Speaker 1: LA and the whole world has been watching from afar
Speaker 1: the wildfires that absolutely reaked havoc on LA earlier this year.
Speaker 1: In fact, not long before this episode is going to air,
Speaker 1: you were due to be headlining the NRL season launch
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, neighboring Las Vegas, and even that was
Speaker 1: impacted by the fallout from the wildfires a couple of
Speaker 1: months on. So obviously would love to ask you about
Speaker 1: how the community is doing and your personal connection to
Speaker 1: what happened in LA.
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean, you know, it was just it
Speaker 2: really did shake the your central nervous system. That's what
Speaker 2: we kind of noticed, like you really felt the you
Speaker 2: felt the gravity in the air, of of course, of
Speaker 2: just the you know, the devastation of what was happening
Speaker 2: to families, homes and in the lives, from seeing producers
Speaker 2: that we knew who had their studios with all their
Speaker 2: collectible you know, collections of instruments and from you know,
Speaker 2: it just it was in the air. You could see
Speaker 2: the smoke across it. It just was it was it
Speaker 2: was very unique experience. I'm you know, very grateful that
Speaker 2: we were you know, our place was fine, but just
Speaker 2: just to kind of feel that energy in the air
Speaker 2: was quite unnerving. It felt like you had to had
Speaker 2: your bags packed at the door and you know, we
Speaker 2: had our clothes hanging ready to go. And you know,
Speaker 2: there was one day where there was some alerts that
Speaker 2: kept going out accidentally, which was shaking.
Speaker 1: Once that's good for the nervous system.
Speaker 2: And there was one at four a m. That I
Speaker 2: woke up and I was, you know, you had to
Speaker 2: just be on guarden, be alert. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: grateful that that the rains have come now and it's
Speaker 2: that you know, that's it'll be on the rebuild.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing I think in Australia, because we
Speaker 1: are a country that is beset by natural disasters and
Speaker 1: there is a real resilience nature is incredibly resilient, and
Speaker 1: then we as people are incredibly resilient. I imagine it's going
Speaker 1: to be so interesting to see that community, which is
Speaker 1: obviously in a lot of people's minds, it's like a
Speaker 1: fantastical part of the world. It's something that they see
Speaker 1: in old movies and on TV during the award season.
Speaker 1: It's hard sometimes to relate that there are real people,
Speaker 1: real lives there, and I think something like this is
Speaker 1: really brought that home to people.
Speaker 2: And like you're saying, there's the you know, it brings
Speaker 2: out the best and the worst sometimes and you see
Speaker 2: the butterfly effect of what happens and the knock on
Speaker 2: of every single aspect of the city in that moment,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's just, you know, it is when there's
Speaker 2: a rhythm. There's a wonderful rhythm of the arts there,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's why you're there and you able
Speaker 2: to be with your kindreds in collaborating. I was in
Speaker 2: the studio in January. I was I was there straight away.
Speaker 2: It was my window to start making the new music
Speaker 2: before we started the shows, and I was just, you know,
Speaker 2: I was at my piano writing very different music than
Speaker 2: I was expecting, because you were writing from a place
Speaker 2: of just, oh, my goodness, this is just feels so heavy,
Speaker 2: and you know you that's natural. It was you know,
Speaker 2: life moments.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, you have had many life moments and many
Speaker 1: moments where you have worked your way through different chapters,
Speaker 1: and you'll be revisiting one of those on stage soon.
Speaker 1: You mentioned shows there are the Opera House next month
Speaker 1: in April, and this is Mistaken Identity concert. So two
Speaker 1: years ago you toured your debut album, Innocent Eyes. I
Speaker 1: was a sellout to it around the country. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that you are here revisiting Mistaken Identity that was
Speaker 1: released the day before your twentieth birthday. How is it
Speaker 1: being my goodness.
Speaker 2: And reflecting that goodness? It doesn't right. That doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like a reality for me, But it feels like it
Speaker 2: was another lifetime. I found going into these anniversary shows
Speaker 2: just so special, like beyond very healing. I think being
Speaker 2: able to go back in time and listen to the
Speaker 2: albums from a place of where I am right now
Speaker 2: has been quite eye opening again to go wow on
Speaker 2: this particular album, For example, on the second Identity, it's
Speaker 2: quite intricate in the details of piano, I think after
Speaker 2: the first album, they just let me run riot on
Speaker 2: my piano. When I was revisiting, I'm going, it's a
Speaker 2: little more complex than I remember going into I'm like,
Speaker 2: we've got a bit of work cut out for us
Speaker 2: to put this show together, because it was there's so
Speaker 2: many chord changes. But I just I think from my
Speaker 2: life being like songwriting was just my blood and I
Speaker 2: loved I loved expressing myself that way, and I was
Speaker 2: very open and I realized when I kind of go
Speaker 2: into those albums how open hearted and minded I was
Speaker 2: when I broke into music. And I think it's kind
Speaker 2: of going into them is reminding me to work harder
Speaker 2: to get back to that again, to being able to
Speaker 2: be as open as that in my you know, sort
Speaker 2: of having to protect yourself from being you know, sort
Speaker 2: of in the music in the industry my whole entire life.
Speaker 2: And it's been really there's just reasons you go back
Speaker 2: into it, and getting to play the album from top
Speaker 2: to bottom and being able to play songs that we
Speaker 2: didn't get to play back then, and I kind I
Speaker 2: just it's just really exciting, it's enjoyable, it's a really
Speaker 2: creative project to do and there's so much in that
Speaker 2: album and the first album, I can see the journey.
Speaker 2: So I'm really enjoying this kind of format. The first
Speaker 2: one was so much fun. In a Snias anniversary we've
Speaker 2: done around the whole country. This one is just one
Speaker 2: off shows in Australia, around in the UK. And Yeah,
Speaker 2: my heart kind of just smiles and beams when I
Speaker 2: think of it. It was such a it was everybody
Speaker 2: else's album as well, and it wasn't just mine, and
Speaker 2: that was really awesome to sort of experience.
Speaker 1: It certainly felt like it really was everyone else's album.
Speaker 1: And because, as you say, going back to that time capsule,
Speaker 1: whether it's it's Stella covers or your albums, obviously in
Speaker 1: some eyes that was your breakthrough in the industry. I
Speaker 1: was just referencing the first time we met, when you're
Speaker 1: pivoting from that career as an actor, and then the
Speaker 1: journey that you had gone on even in those couple
Speaker 1: of years as still as a teenager.
Speaker 2: And then but when you say that, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't remember ever being a teenager in that time where
Speaker 2: I kind of go I was because I've always I
Speaker 2: always had my friends from school and i always still
Speaker 2: remember having playful, you know, childlike fun throughout the course
Speaker 2: of my life still, But I also kind of when
Speaker 2: you say it, I can't. In my mind. I think
Speaker 2: I always felt a little bit older than what I
Speaker 2: was now. I'm reverting back, you know, I think hopefully,
Speaker 2: But it's hard to fathom when you say that, when
Speaker 2: my mind goes back to what was happening in my
Speaker 2: life at that time.
Speaker 1: I can completely understand that because so much had happened
Speaker 1: to you at such a young age, I mean professionally
Speaker 1: and personally. And that's why I mentioned that the Mistaken
Speaker 1: Identity album was released the day before your twentieth birthday,
Speaker 1: because that is a very very young person. You were
Speaker 1: literally a teenager up until that moment. So the whole
Speaker 1: writing and producing the first album, the touring that, the
Speaker 1: huge success of that, and then recording and writing and
Speaker 1: releasing the second album, all that happened before you were
Speaker 1: even to a mo We even got to twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty first at the State Theater where my mom
Speaker 2: got mad at me because I'd missed the harpest that
Speaker 2: was there before I got there. But you know, I
Speaker 2: was I remember nineteen twenty and I did my first tour,
Speaker 2: my first big tour, and it was an arena tour
Speaker 2: and it was on that album on the Mistaken Identity
Speaker 2: with Visualize, and I just remember being a Newcastle I
Speaker 2: think it was, and we'd had this sort of the
Speaker 2: KOBOOKI drop. I was learning all the different fun that
Speaker 2: live aspects, because touring is you know, it was always
Speaker 2: my dream when I was going through my battle, I
Speaker 2: would have made these moments on the shows that I
Speaker 2: would get to do, like what would Predictable be played?
Speaker 2: Like what would how will we do electric storm on stage?
Speaker 2: And I remember being there, you know, being there my
Speaker 2: first arena show, of my first headline and I was
Speaker 2: the first Australian to open Kudos Bank Arena and it
Speaker 2: was twenty thousand people and I just remember shaking like
Speaker 2: a leaf. I remember standing there, I had my hand
Speaker 2: up in you know, a high position and just being
Speaker 2: like my goodness, the feeling of like I was, you know,
Speaker 2: like a parachute, like I was jumping, like we're on
Speaker 2: the plane. You got to jump now, you have nowhere
Speaker 2: else to go, you have to go. And that was
Speaker 2: my first like live show, my own show then it
Speaker 2: was but of course over the course of time, it
Speaker 2: just even gets more fun. That's the coolest part about
Speaker 2: starting young is that I still feel like I've only
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm hitting my stride in my best
Speaker 2: kind of moments and enjoying everything so much more now.
Speaker 2: But I love going back in time and sharing those
Speaker 2: lightning at a bottle moments from a different place of
Speaker 2: what that was like.
Speaker 1: And obviously your fans and the audience when you're there
Speaker 1: performing are also revisiting where you were at your life
Speaker 1: at that stage, but also where they were, and that's
Speaker 1: how art works.
Speaker 2: And I always that was you know, that was always
Speaker 2: something that was a part of how I got into it.
Speaker 2: I didn't get into it for anything, but I loved
Speaker 2: connection and storytelling. And I didn't have like a you
Speaker 2: know this, it's a new culture now with fame and
Speaker 2: all those kind of things. But my love was seeing
Speaker 2: that somebody took a song and made it a part
Speaker 2: of their core memory of their life. They can go
Speaker 2: back in time. And when we were doing the Innis
Speaker 2: and Eyes tour, I could see when we'd like play
Speaker 2: not min at Eye or something, and you could see
Speaker 2: people taking their own story and like seeing their own
Speaker 2: life come back to them as they're sitting there a
Speaker 2: place of putting the CD player on, and it also
Speaker 2: happens to me, you know, and with Mistaken Identity, I've
Speaker 2: been going through the same process, and maybe because it
Speaker 2: was a complicated time as well, I am enjoying it
Speaker 2: as like a listener and dissecting it from a different place.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you then a little bit about that
Speaker 1: complicated time, which was at the height of the success
Speaker 1: of the release of the previous album, Innocent Eyes in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, you were diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma
Speaker 1: and the release of Mistaken Identity came. Really, when again
Speaker 1: you look at that twenty years ago, what an astounding
Speaker 1: achievement to have gone through a really grueling treatment of
Speaker 1: radiation and chemotherapy.
Speaker 2: You know, being a feeler and someone who'd come from
Speaker 2: writing an album from an innocent place, like from a
Speaker 2: wide eyed writing song about time and life and you know,
Speaker 2: being born to try or you know those kind of
Speaker 2: that ethos that in that writing. Then it was I
Speaker 2: was discovering many different musicians because my household didn't have
Speaker 2: a lot of like they had. My parents listened to
Speaker 2: about three albums. It was like Jive Bunny, Joe Cocker
Speaker 2: and John Farnham. And so when we hit the second album,
Speaker 2: you know, I think I'd seen life in a very
Speaker 2: different way as well, and it had. I'd started to
Speaker 2: discover Torrier Moss and Stevie Nicks, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden I was eye opening to my eyes had opened
Speaker 2: to Annie Lennox, and all of a sudden there was
Speaker 2: all these new influences that I just didn't have on
Speaker 2: the first album. So I was exploring that sort of
Speaker 2: intensity from that place, because whilst it was a triumphant
Speaker 2: moment to obviously stand there as a walking through and
Speaker 2: being thankful to be a survivor, you know, I had
Speaker 2: to walk from a different place as well, of what
Speaker 2: is what do I feel now going into this? How
Speaker 2: can I be of service now to be able to
Speaker 2: be able to do good with other people that are
Speaker 2: going through it? And even just yesterday I was on
Speaker 2: the plane and this gentleman behind me had said that
Speaker 2: he was coming in for a stem cell treatment and
Speaker 2: he was you know, he'd straight away open and I
Speaker 2: get to hear everybody's stories throughout the course of my
Speaker 2: life since that day. Every single day that someone shares
Speaker 2: a story with me about their own journey about that's
Speaker 2: what they've gone through or their friend has gone through.
Speaker 2: So in that respect, I look at it like that
Speaker 2: is a triumphant and that I can that so many
Speaker 2: people have shared, you know, so many beautiful stories with
Speaker 2: me of their strength that we can kind of come
Speaker 2: together on and there's no wall of there's no you
Speaker 2: don't have to there's no wall between us in like
Speaker 2: talking about what it is to have the courage to
Speaker 2: walk through when you when you're not feeling as brave
Speaker 2: as what you you you know you would like to
Speaker 2: in those moments. And I think that that's been pretty amazing,
Speaker 2: and I'm thankful that the last few years we've worked
Speaker 2: hard at building my foundation now and that came from
Speaker 2: that moment. So I think in that aspect, yess, that's
Speaker 2: the triumph that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, initiatives like the Delta Gridron Foundation and the
Speaker 1: fact that I do know even firsthand that you do
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time speaking to other survivors and
Speaker 1: cancer patients. Actually, if you don't mind me telling this story,
Speaker 1: this was behind the scenes. I mean, this was not
Speaker 1: anything that played out in public. A good family friend
Speaker 1: of mine. About eight nine years ago, the daughter was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with Hodgkins slimphoma. She was a huge fan of yours.
Speaker 1: She'd gone to assigning in the shopping centers. I remember
Speaker 1: that when they were a lot of time today, I
Speaker 1: absolutely did.
Speaker 2: I think I met most of Australia, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I remember this person had reached out to me
Speaker 1: and said, look, I'm not sure if you know Delta Gudrin,
Speaker 1: but do you think she might consider talking to my daughter?
Speaker 1: And you did, and that's what happened on the phone,
Speaker 1: and you gave her about an hour of your time.
Speaker 1: And look, a really sad footnote to that story was
Speaker 1: that she did pass away later that year, and I
Speaker 1: did actually let you know, and you actually wrote a
Speaker 1: really beautiful card to her mother. So again, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling this story without warning. But the reason I'm
Speaker 1: saying is because I know that there are things that
Speaker 1: sometimes you're reluctant because it is authentic and genuine, and
Speaker 1: I know you don't want people to think that that's
Speaker 1: something that you're doing for publicity, because we do live
Speaker 1: in a culture where people always like to assign the
Speaker 1: most uncharitable motives to other people. I you must look
Speaker 1: back and think the empathy and the way that that
Speaker 1: experience has shaped you and the way that you've wanted
Speaker 1: to give so much of your time do initiatives like
Speaker 1: the Delta Goodroom Foundation. Do you think that would have
Speaker 1: happened without that experience.
Speaker 2: I think I think my heart would have always wanted to,
Speaker 2: you know, something's come into your life to make good
Speaker 2: of it for other people as well, like that that
Speaker 2: was a part of me. But no, it wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been I wouldn't have been in this moment of the
Speaker 2: Delta Goodom Foundation or have had that experience to talk
Speaker 2: from a place. So you're right, I would I So
Speaker 2: I look at it like, you know, like much like
Speaker 2: when Olivia had sent me a note saying, one day
Speaker 2: you'll understand it is a gift to be able to
Speaker 2: have this understanding for people. And at the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's been a lot of conversations, but
Speaker 2: people go through so much every single day, and I
Speaker 2: it's a long time ago for me now, but I
Speaker 2: I and I've had so many different trials, what's trials
Speaker 2: by firearms different over the years, but the you know,
Speaker 2: that sort of connection that bonded a lot of people
Speaker 2: with me and me with them. That music and life was.
Speaker 2: You know, cancer dos' discriminate, and it's it can just
Speaker 2: you have to stay on top of your health. It's
Speaker 2: number one. All those life messages that might at times
Speaker 2: feel cliche or earnest in songs or in conversation, they're
Speaker 2: not because when someone's going through something really real and
Speaker 2: going through a moment in their life, those are those
Speaker 2: those simple messages like fighter Christina Aguilera was on my playlist,
Speaker 2: Like it's as obvious as that sometimes and so in
Speaker 2: that respect, I'm really proud to be able to work
Speaker 2: with like Saint Vincent's and from that day I'm a
Speaker 2: very loyal person. So hence we're here, we are, He
Speaker 2: covers later, I'm very I'm very right or die as
Speaker 2: a character as it is. And once I love people,
Speaker 2: I very much love people, and like that, I would
Speaker 2: do anything for the people I love. But you know,
Speaker 2: the second that they had they had saved my life,
Speaker 2: I of course forever more was like what can I do?
Speaker 2: How can I be of service? And when COVID happened,
Speaker 2: it finally gave us the time to be able to
Speaker 2: go okay, So how do I set this up properly
Speaker 2: because I'm a big believer in if it's worth doing,
Speaker 2: it's worth doing well. And I don't like to do
Speaker 2: anything without a purposeful reason or without a meaning of
Speaker 2: doing it the best way I can, because I think
Speaker 2: to be in this spot even twenty or more years later,
Speaker 2: it's because I think the people who are a part
Speaker 2: of my community or they know that I would never
Speaker 2: not put my heart and soul into anything I'm involved in.
Speaker 2: I just wouldn't do it otherwise.
Speaker 1: It's nice to know. That was another silver lining of COVID.
Speaker 1: We're getting a few silver linings that came out. The
Speaker 1: birth of the Foundation was one of them. Delta, I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about the release of Mistaken
Speaker 1: Identity and what your memories are of that time. Out
Speaker 1: of the Blue was their debut single, and as we've
Speaker 1: touched upon, there was so much interest and fascination and
Speaker 1: everyone really did feel like they were rallying for you.
Speaker 1: And that is not hyperbole. No, when you would even
Speaker 1: be walking red Cup of people would stop. It was
Speaker 1: like people were talking to Australia's daughter.
Speaker 2: Or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, and of course, no one person can actually
Speaker 1: be the aunt or the daughter or the son.
Speaker 2: But do you know what that's that can I share
Speaker 2: with you my mom? My mom had lost her parents
Speaker 2: young and so we didn't get to grow up with
Speaker 2: them same And one day my mother said she had
Speaker 2: like a moment and she got a bit teary, and
Speaker 2: she said, I wish that my you know, my mom
Speaker 2: and dad were here to be able to share you know,
Speaker 2: life life moments together. And I said, don't worry, mom,
Speaker 2: I've said, besides them being above watching, we've got You've
Speaker 2: got many aunties and uncles in Australia. Here, we look
Speaker 2: like we can look at that two woman that came
Speaker 2: and chatted to us there, he's let's consider him an
Speaker 2: uncle and auntie your sister or brother. And I have
Speaker 2: felt that connection and I don't take it for granted
Speaker 2: that that is I feel like that I don't know whose.
Speaker 2: I don't know when I feel like sometimes my space invading.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when people like just jump into conversation with me
Speaker 2: and go delta. So at this time did it And
Speaker 2: I just jumped straight in And I'm like, is it
Speaker 2: me who's like a bit out there where? I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: I know. Let's just I feel like I know everyone
Speaker 2: as much as they feel me in those energies. Not everybody,
Speaker 2: because obviously there's not going to be there's everyone has
Speaker 2: their own worlds going on, but people who have chosen
Speaker 2: maybe and we've had a connection in some moment or another.
Speaker 2: When we have that interaction, I normally feel just as
Speaker 2: connected as if I've watched their life too. It's a
Speaker 2: very strange feeling, and I'm not sure if that I
Speaker 2: may not explain that.
Speaker 1: That actually makes perfect sense. It really does because and
Speaker 1: it's such a great insight into what I think, in
Speaker 1: current parlance would be the parasocial relationship, which is where
Speaker 1: a person really identifies or feels like they know someone
Speaker 1: a public figure or someone that they know.
Speaker 2: But it also I feel that I know that.
Speaker 1: But as I said, when the album came out, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of expectation, a lot of love, a
Speaker 1: lot of people really rallying behind you as you talked
Speaker 1: about the whole country of extended family for you and
Speaker 1: for your mum and your own family. And then did
Speaker 1: that also then bring with it a sense of pressure
Speaker 1: because the expectation on any follow up album, when it's
Speaker 1: on the heels of something super nova as innocent eyes
Speaker 1: was already brings a cute pressure and expectation. But then,
Speaker 1: as discussed, you're only nineteen about to turn twenty. You've
Speaker 1: been through this incredibly confronting, life challenging experience at every
Speaker 1: single level. Physically you obviously temporarily lost your hair as
Speaker 1: a result of the chemotherapy treatment, So all of that.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you about that side of the experience
Speaker 1: when Mistaken Identity was released?
Speaker 2: I mean, which part would you like to dive into,
Speaker 2: because there's so much in that chapter, And there was
Speaker 2: you know, we had just broken in the UK, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, Elton John had called me on the first
Speaker 2: day of my chemo. It was then I was back
Speaker 2: out in the world and just trying to kind of
Speaker 2: as a teenager, try to navigate. And you I think
Speaker 2: everyone cared so as in like our team and my
Speaker 2: you know, I was with the record labels and it
Speaker 2: was a totally different time of life and as a
Speaker 2: culturally speaking as well when it came to how music
Speaker 2: was going or how music was run. And I mean
Speaker 2: I just remember it being you know, it was I
Speaker 2: guess the words that come to mind, and I'll keep
Speaker 2: exploring it as I'm putting the show together because it's
Speaker 2: definitely a deep dive. But I still remember being able
Speaker 2: to be an artist in the sense that I would
Speaker 2: sort of go and escape to songwriting, like songs like
Speaker 2: Fragile and you can hear what's happening in my mind
Speaker 2: on that album. That's how I can That's how I
Speaker 2: can kind of go back in time as well, because
Speaker 2: a lot of it I also block out to kind
Speaker 2: of move on from, because I had become intense tabloid
Speaker 2: conversation and that's something that nobody teaches you when you
Speaker 2: first get into it. That was my first intense tabloid.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, paparazzi were chasing on the street.
Speaker 2: It was I was being the UK and it was
Speaker 2: you know, the bikes on the side and people were everywhere.
Speaker 2: And when it came to the music side, I can
Speaker 2: hear how expressive I was on It's a full bodied
Speaker 2: musical like me and Guy Chambers in London then Billy Mann,
Speaker 2: and we'd done like big orchestras in it, so I
Speaker 2: can feel the want to just be. Its mood is intense,
Speaker 2: Like the analyst, I go into that song and I'm
Speaker 2: like free her mind She's always the analyst, silence space,
Speaker 2: the corporate, the catalyst trying to make sense of this life.
Speaker 2: And I can hear my analytical side kind of stepping in.
Speaker 2: And that's why I put it a track to Is
Speaker 2: it the best pop song on the album? No, But
Speaker 2: it had a message of what I was experiencing. And
Speaker 2: you go from the long haired, no shoed piano playing
Speaker 2: to all of a sudden, a totally different identity, which
Speaker 2: is where that sort of the title came from. And
Speaker 2: you're questioning just everything, and I think putting the pieces
Speaker 2: together from like a family side, from a music side,
Speaker 2: and choices and I I'm I'm yeah, I'm still I
Speaker 2: think that it was. It was a pretty There was
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure to answer. In my roundabout way,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of pressure, and I think I
Speaker 2: cried a lot during that chapter. I think that I
Speaker 2: was doing the best I could, and but it was
Speaker 2: it was intense. It was an intense time.
Speaker 1: It must be such an intense experience to use the
Speaker 1: same word to go back and revisit that particular chapter,
Speaker 1: I imagine doing so with innocent eyes was really eye opening.
Speaker 2: I'm scape and you know very then, but again, I
Speaker 2: you know, I am. I'm sitting here with a with
Speaker 2: going Wow, what an experience of life. You know, that
Speaker 2: was another true experience to the colors of the rainbow.
Speaker 2: There is a depth and gravity that I can understand
Speaker 2: from a place. I'm always somebody who when they go
Speaker 2: through anything, I will take with me what I need
Speaker 2: to learn from and continue to try to learn, and
Speaker 2: I will discard and just keep moving forward. I'm on
Speaker 2: the train going over this way, and I will continue
Speaker 2: on my path to be the best version of myself
Speaker 2: every day. And that that might have been an intense album,
Speaker 2: but I think in rediscovering and going to and again,
Speaker 2: I say that as an album as a life moment,
Speaker 2: but it was there was there was a lot of
Speaker 2: amazing moments. I was there doing Top of the Pops
Speaker 2: and we were in New York and we were doing
Speaker 2: the Today Show, and we were doing you know, there
Speaker 2: was there was a lot of amazing moments that were
Speaker 2: happening with Out of the Blue Almost here had taken
Speaker 2: off in Europe and we were flying from country to country.
Speaker 2: But it was still just you know, I was just
Speaker 2: a nineteen year old, twenty year old, and a lot
Speaker 2: of it I'm still trying to remember.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here to give you a little specific
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Look, I remember some bad fashion choices. I'm going to
Speaker 2: be honest with you on that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, never, How could you possibly be in the
Speaker 1: public eye ephid twenty two years and had bad fashion choices?
Speaker 2: Never happened before. I can safely say to you that
Speaker 2: there's I remember when I think it was a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago when we were one of my girlfriends said,
Speaker 2: and I said, I really didn't like this outfit I
Speaker 2: was wearying, and that I got papped out there before
Speaker 2: Now phones were a little bit more of the prevalent.
Speaker 2: Now I've just given up.
Speaker 1: In any.
Speaker 2: Here I am. But but I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: just disliked the outfit. She said, Oh babe, don't worry.
Speaker 2: It can't be anything as bad as what you were
Speaker 2: wearing in two thousand and four and five. And I
Speaker 2: was like, well, I guess you're right there, you go.
Speaker 2: I love that supporting feedback. Yeah, the outfit's are that bad? Well,
Speaker 2: it's true as it goes to the.
Speaker 1: Theme of resilience, doing it, you learn, you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can get back from this bad outfits whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and then you learn.
Speaker 2: I done good ones, but just some.
Speaker 1: I certainly had a few. It wouldn't be a life
Speaker 1: if there weren't, like a few bad wardrobe choices. I
Speaker 1: think I speak for all of us when I say
Speaker 1: that part of the reason that a second album brings
Speaker 1: all of that weight of expectation I was talking about
Speaker 1: is because really, and we can. I think we can
Speaker 1: talk about this twenty years later. I wouldn't if I
Speaker 1: was sitting in the studio, I wouldn't say it now, right, Okay, Delta,
Speaker 1: this is make or break. So right now you've got
Speaker 1: this massive career. But if this one's a fizzer, people
Speaker 1: are going to go, oh, that was a one hit wonder.
Speaker 1: So that's the spoiler alert. I think twenty years later
Speaker 1: we can say, well, that was the next step, the
Speaker 1: next chapter in what has clearly been not only very
Speaker 1: successful career, but a career with longevity in it.
Speaker 2: I can safely say that even I didn't feel that,
Speaker 2: I didn't have that kind of feeling when it came
Speaker 2: to I wasn't sort of and I still don't when
Speaker 2: it comes to, oh, if this doesn't you know work
Speaker 2: or my pursuit is to do great work, great projects,
Speaker 2: great people. I don't have a I didn't have that
Speaker 2: feeling on album too, like if this doesn't work anything, No,
Speaker 2: I would just sort of pick up and keep going
Speaker 2: and find Okay, we'll let me dive deeper into sitting
Speaker 2: at my piano and you know, finding what I want
Speaker 2: to share and talk about. But again, it's for people
Speaker 2: to pick up a part of them so as well.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have felt I wouldn't. I didn't feel that
Speaker 2: kind of pressure. It was more that there was just
Speaker 2: an enormity going on around me and a lot of
Speaker 2: people just just everybody. It It was just there was
Speaker 2: just it was a coming from minnison and eye into
Speaker 2: that record when you're doing I think for some reason
Speaker 2: comes to mind at the areas and singing out of
Speaker 2: the Blue and just the amount of production and just
Speaker 2: things that were going on. Was that was kind of
Speaker 2: what had happened next.
Speaker 1: The scale. The scale, as you say, you're traveling the
Speaker 1: world and you're doing live TV in New York and you.
Speaker 2: Don't look the same or you don't feel the same,
Speaker 2: so you're trying to navigate that whilst a lot of
Speaker 2: people are dissecting you and trying to put observations or
Speaker 2: but again I I I that was that was then,
Speaker 2: and I kind of I appreciate that that's what was
Speaker 2: going on at that moment.
Speaker 1: As you said, there were some parts of that chapter then,
Speaker 1: were your first experience of that really unrelenting paparazzi interest
Speaker 1: and everyone following everything that you did, And then you've
Speaker 1: already touched upon it. I think before you said trial
Speaker 1: by Fire, and I wanted to ask you a little
Speaker 1: bit about you have really ridden the roller coaster of
Speaker 1: the public like the highest of highs and then inevitably
Speaker 1: the lowest of lows. Everyone that has got any career
Speaker 1: that probably even honestly goes longer than a week is
Speaker 1: going to feel the absolute love and then the absolute venom.
Speaker 1: And you have really experienced the absolute extremities of it.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Looking back now? Do
Speaker 1: you feel I could anything shock you in terms of
Speaker 1: people saying bad things about you because you have not
Speaker 1: weathered it. But also those things would must presumably sting
Speaker 1: when you're younger, but also when it's your first time
Speaker 1: being exposed to that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing I think, when you're first exposed
Speaker 2: to it and then you're sort of getting the muscles
Speaker 2: of understanding of how to how to put the umbrella
Speaker 2: up and walk through it and then put it down,
Speaker 2: but again with a true intention and a clear And
Speaker 2: then I knew that this too will pass. And then
Speaker 2: you also have to understand that's a career. You can't
Speaker 2: always be one thing to everybody, or one or a
Speaker 2: hero or a villain. You will in a career go
Speaker 2: through different ebbs and flows, and it's up to you
Speaker 2: to what you do next.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's the thing. And you learn that each
Speaker 1: time that you do, get back up and get on
Speaker 1: with it. And then you learn that I don't.
Speaker 2: Really read or look at anything though anymore now like
Speaker 2: I definitely like when I was younger, I would see
Speaker 2: a lot more. I probably have to be. If something
Speaker 2: comes up, I might say, you show me, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't read or look at anything about myself.
Speaker 2: I live my life. I have an amazing partner in
Speaker 2: my life, and we live a good life, and we
Speaker 2: get to tour of the world doing what we love
Speaker 2: to do and meeting great people.
Speaker 1: And coming up Delta on how she and her fiance
Speaker 1: celebrated their engagement. I was going to ask you about
Speaker 1: turning forty. Actually, you have obviously gone and revisited two
Speaker 1: albums on a successful tour. Is this something that you
Speaker 1: think you might do for every single album that you're
Speaker 1: going to do. Do you think you might put them
Speaker 1: all together at some point.
Speaker 2: An anniversary of every album? Yes? Yes, well I'm really
Speaker 2: enjoying it. But it is about the new music I am.
Speaker 2: I am absolutely in the studio at the moment. Hence
Speaker 2: why I didn't do the tour, because I was like,
Speaker 2: I need to keep writing the new music. I feel
Speaker 2: like I just love the new songs so much so
Speaker 2: I'm definitely very ready for the new songs to start
Speaker 2: to make their way out into the world soon. But
Speaker 2: first steps first, right now with these shows, committing and
Speaker 2: heading to London with them. So but yes, I you know,
Speaker 2: if it's a it's so much fun playing an album
Speaker 2: from top to bottom from a time where now you
Speaker 2: skip a lot more and you might have singles, but
Speaker 2: in you know, having each album playing top to bottom,
Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, I hadn't thought about the next
Speaker 2: one yet. We've had so many projects go on. I
Speaker 2: haven't got to that one day at a time.
Speaker 1: Do you got to love journees, don't you. I was
Speaker 1: sitting here going, well, what's the next what's the next time?
Speaker 1: Are you thinking? I haven't even done the current one.
Speaker 1: I obviously would love to ask you about your record label.
Speaker 1: You have your own record label, now.
Speaker 2: Tell me about that.
Speaker 1: What inspired you to do that and what are your
Speaker 1: plans for it as a record label?
Speaker 2: Well, I think I mean if i'd been in a
Speaker 2: signed to a record label for longer than I hadn't
Speaker 2: in life. So if I was signed when I was fourteen,
Speaker 2: fifteen years old, so I only knew label life more
Speaker 2: than I didn't know being signed to a label, and
Speaker 2: then COVID really did change a lot. I think it
Speaker 2: had like that sort of propeller on people with different
Speaker 2: life moments. We just had Bridge Over Trouble Dreams, the
Speaker 2: album go number one, and we worked really hard as
Speaker 2: a team, and I just I just remember feeling that
Speaker 2: sense of understanding how much the world was changing and
Speaker 2: how much I'd learned. I was doing these bunk annowned
Speaker 2: sessions on my socials and just you know, obviously because
Speaker 2: when we were at home and we kept doing the music,
Speaker 2: but we started to see how much just how much
Speaker 2: the communication was happening now, and I was learning how
Speaker 2: to use my phone, how to be connected through our
Speaker 2: phones and be able to and I understood how quick
Speaker 2: everything was. And I think that I started starting to
Speaker 2: see that there was a new model that was out
Speaker 2: there in a different way, rather than just accepting an
Speaker 2: old path that had sort of been now there was
Speaker 2: an evolution, and I enjoyed the creative aspect of that.
Speaker 2: We were starting to have a lot of fun with
Speaker 2: my creativity, being able to be out of the box
Speaker 2: with doing projects, making Christmas shows and doing and I
Speaker 2: really relish in sort of creating a project. And I
Speaker 2: just had a feeling in my heart that, you know,
Speaker 2: things were changing, and I felt like I wanted to
Speaker 2: be able to move into the new era a new
Speaker 2: way and see how I could efficiently be able to
Speaker 2: create and be with a core team. And that kind
Speaker 2: of just that evolution, and I think there was an
Speaker 2: opening there where there was a change of guards and
Speaker 2: change of season when it came to even with the
Speaker 2: voice and with the label and everything, and I just
Speaker 2: sort of said, I'm gonna I want to go over here.
Speaker 2: And I have been walking a path that you know,
Speaker 2: for me has been less troubled, but it's been exciting.
Speaker 2: We've been able to tour the world with Backshitt Boys
Speaker 2: and Shanaia and it just Yeah, I'm really proud of
Speaker 2: the last four years. And starting the label felt like
Speaker 2: a natural thing when you've been in label your whole
Speaker 2: life and now there's a new version of that that
Speaker 2: I feel strong about being able to create for the
Speaker 2: next gym as well.
Speaker 1: It must be quite an adjustment then, going from being
Speaker 1: part of a label for as you say, most of
Speaker 1: your conscious life and then all of a sudden not
Speaker 1: hadn't really thought about it from that outside of the
Speaker 1: work aspect, just part of the identity. So yes, turning forty.
Speaker 1: So I did want to ask you about that. Something
Speaker 1: that we talk about a lot women on this podcast
Speaker 1: is the changing nature of visibility of women and just
Speaker 1: the options that are open to women as they get older.
Speaker 1: If you look back, you know, even only ten twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, I was like, right, in this age, that's
Speaker 1: what it means. Certain I've had women in here in
Speaker 1: their fifties and sixties. For you, only being forty is
Speaker 1: obviously a younger lens on it, but it's the same
Speaker 1: thing I would imagine when you look at the women
Speaker 1: that you were looking to in the public eye when
Speaker 1: you were growing up, and also just personally your mum's generation,
Speaker 1: the old labels and barriers that were so commonplace don't
Speaker 1: seem to be in place anymore.
Speaker 2: I know, what an exciting time for us to be
Speaker 2: able to have that. I recognize that. That's just it's
Speaker 2: so fantastic. It's so wonderful to be able to you know,
Speaker 2: it's time. There's no timeless you know, where whenever your
Speaker 2: time is, there's no you know, I wrote a song
Speaker 2: on my first record in my own time, and I
Speaker 2: do truly believe that your timing is right for you.
Speaker 2: And you know, I have things that I would have
Speaker 2: thought on different times in my life, but I love
Speaker 2: that my time is on my own time. And I
Speaker 2: think that how fantastic that society has shifted to where
Speaker 2: you know, there is there is no limit on you.
Speaker 2: You can be whatever you want to be at any
Speaker 2: age you go for it, you know, and lifting each
Speaker 2: other up in that space and and celebrating that they're
Speaker 2: different chapters of your life and being able that's so cool.
Speaker 2: That's really awesome.
Speaker 1: Can I ask Delta when going back to your treatment,
Speaker 1: and we just talked about that period of your life
Speaker 1: after the diagnosis with Hodgkins slim foma, A question that
Speaker 1: all women in the public eye is also asked about.
Speaker 1: So what are you doing to look good? And how
Speaker 1: are you feeling today? And are you looking? Do you
Speaker 1: want to wear this dress? And that scrutiny and pressure
Speaker 1: at the physical appearance. I mean, obviously you look amazing,
Speaker 1: and those questions probably will come one day, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure were even when you were twenty, people were saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, well, maybe we're this dress instead of that dress.
Speaker 1: Going through that life challenging experience, did that put the
Speaker 1: physical side of things into perspective a little bit for
Speaker 1: you in terms of the mortality aspect of this conversation
Speaker 1: that again I think all of us grapple with as
Speaker 1: we're going through life.
Speaker 2: I never had it as my forward like my first step.
Speaker 2: I didn't. Whilst I'm so grateful to have hair and
Speaker 2: makeup when it came to doing my job or feeling
Speaker 2: the best I could, it wasn't. I really I think
Speaker 2: that that, you know, I I was pretty, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I loved coming up with like what outfit
Speaker 2: of my wearing on stage that would be a passion,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't a I've never really had that passion
Speaker 2: for like day to day, where I think that might
Speaker 2: be a misconception maybe for me, like I don't really
Speaker 2: I don't have like a excitement of what I'm going
Speaker 2: to wear for this today, like as in day to day.
Speaker 2: But I love when it's like theatrical or stage or
Speaker 2: you know, what we're going to do that meets that
Speaker 2: performance or that's that's a passion of mine. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to no one ever really, I don't think
Speaker 2: for me in my journey when when people talk about
Speaker 2: you know, did someone say where this or where that?
Speaker 2: I've always been very strong minded as well. I never
Speaker 2: really I've always been I'm not that person that whilst
Speaker 2: I'm open and I'm always like, best best idea in
Speaker 2: the room wins best like thought process and our friction
Speaker 2: makes motion. Best best thought that we move forward to
Speaker 2: be able to get the best solution wins when including
Speaker 2: like does this look great? But this is this look great?
Speaker 2: I love that aspect, but I'm not as I'm not,
Speaker 2: I guess I sort of it's a lot more prevalent
Speaker 2: now with people with their social media and their phones
Speaker 2: and that sort of but that wasn't really a passion,
Speaker 2: and you'd see for me, I, you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: little more shy when it comes to you know, I
Speaker 2: want to look my best the best I can, and
Speaker 2: at times I'll notice, So I better get better, get
Speaker 2: running a bit more, I bet, you know. But I'm
Speaker 2: a lot more driven from a different place that's not Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's makes sense, and I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if I'm quite tired today. So if I'm articulating
Speaker 2: anything and if don't make any sense, this would be
Speaker 2: a miracle.
Speaker 1: Well it's a miracle. It makes It makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense, And I think it's a really fascinating answer,
Speaker 1: because really the question was me queering whether your attitude
Speaker 1: to the sea that we all swim in, whether you're
Speaker 1: in the public eye or not totally, whether you are twenty,
Speaker 1: whether you're forty, whether you.
Speaker 2: What school, whether you're like all women know, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: that moment where everone goes, so what are you wearing
Speaker 2: or what do you look like?
Speaker 1: Or oh you look too young, or you look too old,
Speaker 1: or you need to put on weight. Oh no, they
Speaker 1: know you've lost too much weighted. It's it is a
Speaker 1: very general cultural part I would argue of being a woman.
Speaker 1: And I was curious whether that experience of losing your
Speaker 1: hair temporarily at twenty, whether that had shaped it. But
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is that for you, it was always
Speaker 1: more the physicality and fashion was more part of storytelling
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was it was hard being that
Speaker 2: moment feeling good. Of course that wasn't and you know
Speaker 2: I it definitely you know what we're hitting on a
Speaker 2: call is actually prior to that, I was very naturally
Speaker 2: just you know, it wasn't my emphasis. I'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that looks great. I love that dress over jeans. I
Speaker 2: was very casual about the way I approached I loved
Speaker 2: something that I looked nice, or this looks nice. It
Speaker 2: was very natural organically. I didn't use it as my
Speaker 2: sort of number one thought process of what am I
Speaker 2: going to wear for this? But then when I went
Speaker 2: through losing my hair and losing a you know, you
Speaker 2: you are inflames from the different steroids or all those
Speaker 2: kind of things that are going on, or your eyebells
Speaker 2: have gone gray, because that's just what happens, so yes,
Speaker 2: and then I had braces at the time too because
Speaker 2: my teeth maybe, so it was definitely I definitely then
Speaker 2: got you know, definitely wanted to sort of hermit a
Speaker 2: little bit more. But I think I have hermited a
Speaker 2: lot when I just need to kind of recover or
Speaker 2: but then sort of you know, then i'd my hair
Speaker 2: was coming back, and I just you know, it was
Speaker 2: just not I wasn't rocking it at all. And I appreciate,
Speaker 2: you know, when we get to get dressed up and play,
Speaker 2: but if you caught me at home, I'm very much
Speaker 2: very track suits at home.
Speaker 1: You are engaged and you share parts of your life,
Speaker 1: like your engagement on social media, but then also very private.
Speaker 1: And again from an outsider perspective, it doesn't look like
Speaker 1: there's any tussle about that. I'm sure people are asking
Speaker 1: you questions or fans all the time, but from a
Speaker 1: public perspective, it looks like people give you the space
Speaker 1: at this point in your life to live your life,
Speaker 1: but then you're also not it's not a secret. Is
Speaker 1: that a fair observation?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: I feel when we got engaged. We were. It was
Speaker 2: the day before that we shared the photo before we
Speaker 2: were on stage, and I was tussling so bad in
Speaker 2: that moment, but I was like, you know, it's we
Speaker 2: just share it, share it, you know. And then it
Speaker 2: was kind of like during that tour, it was so
Speaker 2: beautiful because each place is saying, you know, have the engagement.
Speaker 2: It felt like we've done an engagement party in every
Speaker 2: single city while we were doing those shows. And I
Speaker 2: thought that was just so beautiful in the way that
Speaker 2: we got to kind of share that in our own way,
Speaker 2: which was we're open on stage, we're on stage together,
Speaker 2: we are there, and it is you know, it is
Speaker 2: also a love language for us as being up there.
Speaker 2: But I do love keeping us as a sacred house too,
Speaker 2: and that's important for me, and I choose. It's like
Speaker 2: the same with my family. I choose to to stand
Speaker 2: in my authentic self with my love for music and
Speaker 2: my love for the arts or doing shows and you
Speaker 2: know and projects. But you know, you know, he chooses
Speaker 2: music as well, so that's a form. But he doesn't
Speaker 2: choose this, or my brother doesn't, my mom, dad don't.
Speaker 2: And I kind of have learned that from over time,
Speaker 2: and that that's what works for.
Speaker 1: Me absolutely, and I think it's obvious that that has
Speaker 1: been learned because there are some things in life that
Speaker 1: you can only get that balance when.
Speaker 2: You've lived through it. There's no real book to that,
Speaker 2: but that's what I'm saying about life. You know, I
Speaker 2: really this is such a wonderful chapter because all those
Speaker 2: different moments that leads you to where you are, where
Speaker 2: you go, you can kind of find those boundaries which
Speaker 2: are right for you. And you know that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: things won't change over time, but I feel, you know,
Speaker 2: I enjoy where we're at with sharing my other parts
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 1: Final question, can I just go back where we started
Speaker 1: when I was talking about the eight stellar covers and
Speaker 1: the first time that you and I met, which was Melbourne,
Speaker 1: November two thousand and two. You were only so young
Speaker 1: at the time. I mean, if you hadn't been in
Speaker 1: the industry, you would have still been possibly at school,
Speaker 1: maybe like you might have been finishing up year twelve
Speaker 1: in that night.
Speaker 2: I would have been in year twelve. I didn't do
Speaker 2: Year eleven and twelve. Yep, I was on neighbors.
Speaker 1: I've taken you back a lot, but I would like
Speaker 1: just to end on that moment. If you look back
Speaker 1: to that Delta Good Room back then end of two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, before publicly at least everything changed with
Speaker 1: Born to Try being released. What would you say to
Speaker 1: her is if you had to give her one piece
Speaker 1: of advice or one observation, or one joke or something.
Speaker 2: One time we say this, it's very funny. How would you.
Speaker 1: Tell it a fob off that annoying futures della editor
Speaker 1: that you'll be sitting opposite in March twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: so going back to that studio obviously in Melbourne because
Speaker 1: you were filming Neighbors at the time, what do you
Speaker 1: think would be your message to her if you had
Speaker 1: that opportunity to go back in the little time?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just I would also say
Speaker 2: staying strong in you know what's important as you I
Speaker 2: don't know if what I find is that to separate
Speaker 2: from so much noise, you have to have those quiet
Speaker 2: moments to be able to really hear your the voice within,
Speaker 2: to be able to stay strong. And I think in
Speaker 2: the moments of when you have maybe not the best
Speaker 2: people around you, or you know there's there can be
Speaker 2: different so much influences and you know, noises and this
Speaker 2: and this and this. I think always removing yourself and
Speaker 2: taking a moment to really sit in what is what
Speaker 2: is the You are the sort of north star of
Speaker 2: this whole ship. How do you kind of go forward
Speaker 2: in the right way? I think just I would always
Speaker 2: just say just keep you know. If a reflective side,
Speaker 2: I'd say just always keep you know, making sure you
Speaker 2: find those quiet times by yourself to be able to
Speaker 2: always step back into that. But otherwise I just also
Speaker 2: tell her that it just gets even more fun as
Speaker 2: time goes on and you're about to experience a wild ride,
Speaker 2: but always what you got into it for in the
Speaker 2: attention and the thoss of the love and light through
Speaker 2: song and shared experience as humans.
Speaker 1: Well, Delta, it's been really lovely to chat to you.
Speaker 1: Happy belated fortieth birthday by the way, Thank you and
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you on stage. You can see
Speaker 1: Delta Gudrum Mistaken Identity, a night of celebration, is on
Speaker 1: the fourteenth of April at the Sydney Opera House. Tickets
Speaker 1: are available through deltagudroom dot com and you'll find the
Speaker 1: link in our show notes. You'll also find a link
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