WEBVTT - Delta Goodrem: the reality of being a public person with a private life

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Something to Talk About The Stellar Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sarah Lamarquin, your host, and every week I sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with some of the biggest names in the country

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<v Speaker 1>because when Australia's celebrities are ready to talk, they come

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<v Speaker 1>to Something to talk about. Just over twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Delta Gudrum found herself at a turning point, not only

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<v Speaker 1>in her career but also her life, having undergone chemotherapy

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<v Speaker 1>and radiation after being diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three, The then teenage pop star was about

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<v Speaker 1>to unveil a whole new version of herself, as hinted

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<v Speaker 1>at by the name of the album she would release

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<v Speaker 1>a day before her twentieth birthday, Mistaken Identity. On today's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Delta joins me in the studio to reflect on that

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<v Speaker 1>turbulent chapter of her life and how it has brought

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<v Speaker 1>her to where she is the age of forty, happily

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<v Speaker 1>engaged touring the world, writing new music, and launching her

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<v Speaker 1>own record label. Delta Gudrum, Welcome to the Stellar Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me. It is lovely

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<v Speaker 2>to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>You today are marking your eighth appearance on the cover

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<v Speaker 1>of Stellar, and yet first time in the podcast studio,

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<v Speaker 1>first time you and I have sat down for an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Since you may not remember this, but November two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two was in Melbourne. You were on Neighbors and

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<v Speaker 1>were just preparing to release a little old song called

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<v Speaker 1>Born to Try, and I was at a magazine at

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is really lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen you around over the years and of

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<v Speaker 1>course been a privilege have you on the cover of

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<v Speaker 1>Stella eight times, but first time you and me chatting

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the perfect number. It's an octave, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like from one chapter to the nair it's an

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<v Speaker 2>octave on the piano scale. And I'm very honored to

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<v Speaker 2>have been on the cover that many times with you

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<v Speaker 2>all and collaborated throughout the years. It's always nice to

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<v Speaker 2>have another diary, where another journal, a check in point

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<v Speaker 2>where you say, let's talk about where we're at right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Where are we at now on the different moments we've

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<v Speaker 2>gone through. When I was coming here and i'd seen

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<v Speaker 2>the eight different covers that we had shared, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like going back in time where I was going

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<v Speaker 2>oh that was going on there, that was going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's beautiful to be able to, you know, share

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<v Speaker 2>share a voice of what's happening when a season is

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<v Speaker 2>happening in life that you know, my life in the

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<v Speaker 2>public eye has gone on. It's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>They really are little time capsule moments, because obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>first one was late twenty sixteen, and then we're here

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<v Speaker 1>in March twenty twenty five, so that's coming up to

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<v Speaker 1>a decade. I'm not sure how many keys that is

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<v Speaker 1>inter optive on the piano. I will leave that to

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<v Speaker 1>the lyricist, but they do represent moments in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and then also reflect moments in the wider culture.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, one of those covers, possibly too fell within COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was reflected that it was a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>scaled back and the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>There was there was we were in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was twenty twenty in the face just

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<v Speaker 2>before COVID had happened and the fires had had started

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia, and I remember we did a cover from

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<v Speaker 2>there as well together about that. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are these little moments like that, but more

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<v Speaker 1>times on the cover than anyone else which given the

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<v Speaker 1>big role call of famous Australians and international superstars that

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<v Speaker 1>have been on the cover of Stella, there's really should

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<v Speaker 1>be a prize here, but let's sett off for a

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<v Speaker 1>sparkling sparkling off of soft drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all I need, a lot of sparkle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you mentioned there the bush fires of Australia, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course you spend a lot of your time in

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<v Speaker 1>LA and the whole world has been watching from afar

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<v Speaker 1>the wildfires that absolutely reaked havoc on LA earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, not long before this episode is going to air,

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<v Speaker 1>you were due to be headlining the NRL season launch

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas, neighboring Las Vegas, and even that was

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<v Speaker 1>impacted by the fallout from the wildfires a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months on. So obviously would love to ask you about

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<v Speaker 1>how the community is doing and your personal connection to

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I mean, you know, it was just it

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<v Speaker 2>really did shake the your central nervous system. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of noticed, like you really felt the you

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<v Speaker 2>felt the gravity in the air, of of course, of

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<v Speaker 2>just the you know, the devastation of what was happening

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<v Speaker 2>to families, homes and in the lives, from seeing producers

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<v Speaker 2>that we knew who had their studios with all their

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<v Speaker 2>collectible you know, collections of instruments and from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just it was in the air. You could see

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<v Speaker 2>the smoke across it. It just was it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was very unique experience. I'm you know, very grateful that

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<v Speaker 2>we were you know, our place was fine, but just

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<v Speaker 2>just to kind of feel that energy in the air

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<v Speaker 2>was quite unnerving. It felt like you had to had

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<v Speaker 2>your bags packed at the door and you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>had our clothes hanging ready to go. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was one day where there was some alerts that

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<v Speaker 2>kept going out accidentally, which was shaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Once that's good for the nervous system.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was one at four a m. That I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up and I was, you know, you had to

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<v Speaker 2>just be on guarden, be alert. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful that that the rains have come now and it's

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, that's it'll be on the rebuild.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing I think in Australia, because we

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<v Speaker 1>are a country that is beset by natural disasters and

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<v Speaker 1>there is a real resilience nature is incredibly resilient, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we as people are incredibly resilient. I imagine it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be so interesting to see that community, which is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously in a lot of people's minds, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastical part of the world. It's something that they see

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<v Speaker 1>in old movies and on TV during the award season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard sometimes to relate that there are real people,

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<v Speaker 1>real lives there, and I think something like this is

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<v Speaker 1>really brought that home to people.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you're saying, there's the you know, it brings

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<v Speaker 2>out the best and the worst sometimes and you see

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<v Speaker 2>the butterfly effect of what happens and the knock on

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<v Speaker 2>of every single aspect of the city in that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it's just, you know, it is when there's

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<v Speaker 2>a rhythm. There's a wonderful rhythm of the arts there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's why you're there and you able

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<v Speaker 2>to be with your kindreds in collaborating. I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio in January. I was I was there straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my window to start making the new music

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<v Speaker 2>before we started the shows, and I was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at my piano writing very different music than

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<v Speaker 2>I was expecting, because you were writing from a place

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<v Speaker 2>of just, oh, my goodness, this is just feels so heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you that's natural. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>life moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, you have had many life moments and many

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<v Speaker 1>moments where you have worked your way through different chapters,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be revisiting one of those on stage soon.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned shows there are the Opera House next month

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<v Speaker 1>in April, and this is Mistaken Identity concert. So two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago you toured your debut album, Innocent Eyes. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a sellout to it around the country. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that you are here revisiting Mistaken Identity that was

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<v Speaker 1>released the day before your twentieth birthday. How is it

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<v Speaker 1>being my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>And reflecting that goodness? It doesn't right. That doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a reality for me, But it feels like it

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<v Speaker 2>was another lifetime. I found going into these anniversary shows

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<v Speaker 2>just so special, like beyond very healing. I think being

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<v Speaker 2>able to go back in time and listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>albums from a place of where I am right now

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<v Speaker 2>has been quite eye opening again to go wow on

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<v Speaker 2>this particular album, For example, on the second Identity, it's

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<v Speaker 2>quite intricate in the details of piano, I think after

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<v Speaker 2>the first album, they just let me run riot on

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<v Speaker 2>my piano. When I was revisiting, I'm going, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little more complex than I remember going into I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a bit of work cut out for us

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<v Speaker 2>to put this show together, because it was there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many chord changes. But I just I think from my

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<v Speaker 2>life being like songwriting was just my blood and I

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<v Speaker 2>loved I loved expressing myself that way, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>very open and I realized when I kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>into those albums how open hearted and minded I was

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<v Speaker 2>when I broke into music. And I think it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of going into them is reminding me to work harder

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<v Speaker 2>to get back to that again, to being able to

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<v Speaker 2>be as open as that in my you know, sort

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<v Speaker 2>of having to protect yourself from being you know, sort

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<v Speaker 2>of in the music in the industry my whole entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been really there's just reasons you go back

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<v Speaker 2>into it, and getting to play the album from top

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<v Speaker 2>to bottom and being able to play songs that we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to play back then, and I kind I

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just really exciting, it's enjoyable, it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>creative project to do and there's so much in that

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<v Speaker 2>album and the first album, I can see the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really enjoying this kind of format. The first

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<v Speaker 2>one was so much fun. In a Snias anniversary we've

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<v Speaker 2>done around the whole country. This one is just one

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<v Speaker 2>off shows in Australia, around in the UK. And Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my heart kind of just smiles and beams when I

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<v Speaker 2>think of it. It was such a it was everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else's album as well, and it wasn't just mine, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was really awesome to sort of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly felt like it really was everyone else's album.

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<v Speaker 1>And because, as you say, going back to that time capsule,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's it's Stella covers or your albums, obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>some eyes that was your breakthrough in the industry. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just referencing the first time we met, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>pivoting from that career as an actor, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>journey that you had gone on even in those couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years as still as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>And then but when you say that, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember ever being a teenager in that time where

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of go I was because I've always I

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<v Speaker 2>always had my friends from school and i always still

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<v Speaker 2>remember having playful, you know, childlike fun throughout the course

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<v Speaker 2>of my life still, But I also kind of when

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<v Speaker 2>you say it, I can't. In my mind. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I always felt a little bit older than what I

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<v Speaker 2>was now. I'm reverting back, you know, I think hopefully,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's hard to fathom when you say that, when

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<v Speaker 2>my mind goes back to what was happening in my

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<v Speaker 2>life at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I can completely understand that because so much had happened

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<v Speaker 1>to you at such a young age, I mean professionally

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<v Speaker 1>and personally. And that's why I mentioned that the Mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>Identity album was released the day before your twentieth birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is a very very young person. You were

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<v Speaker 1>literally a teenager up until that moment. So the whole

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<v Speaker 1>writing and producing the first album, the touring that, the

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<v Speaker 1>huge success of that, and then recording and writing and

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<v Speaker 1>releasing the second album, all that happened before you were

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<v Speaker 1>even to a mo We even got to twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty first at the State Theater where my mom

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<v Speaker 2>got mad at me because I'd missed the harpest that

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<v Speaker 2>was there before I got there. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was I remember nineteen twenty and I did my first tour,

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<v Speaker 2>my first big tour, and it was an arena tour

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<v Speaker 2>and it was on that album on the Mistaken Identity

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<v Speaker 2>with Visualize, and I just remember being a Newcastle I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was, and we'd had this sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>KOBOOKI drop. I was learning all the different fun that

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<v Speaker 2>live aspects, because touring is you know, it was always

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<v Speaker 2>my dream when I was going through my battle, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have made these moments on the shows that I

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<v Speaker 2>would get to do, like what would Predictable be played?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what would how will we do electric storm on stage?

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember being there, you know, being there my

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<v Speaker 2>first arena show, of my first headline and I was

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<v Speaker 2>the first Australian to open Kudos Bank Arena and it

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty thousand people and I just remember shaking like

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<v Speaker 2>a leaf. I remember standing there, I had my hand

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<v Speaker 2>up in you know, a high position and just being

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<v Speaker 2>like my goodness, the feeling of like I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a parachute, like I was jumping, like we're on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane. You got to jump now, you have nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>else to go, you have to go. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>my first like live show, my own show then it

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<v Speaker 2>was but of course over the course of time, it

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<v Speaker 2>just even gets more fun. That's the coolest part about

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<v Speaker 2>starting young is that I still feel like I've only

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm hitting my stride in my best

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<v Speaker 2>kind of moments and enjoying everything so much more now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love going back in time and sharing those

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<v Speaker 2>lightning at a bottle moments from a different place of

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<v Speaker 2>what that was like.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously your fans and the audience when you're there

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<v Speaker 1>performing are also revisiting where you were at your life

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<v Speaker 1>at that stage, but also where they were, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how art works.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always that was you know, that was always

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<v Speaker 2>something that was a part of how I got into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get into it for anything, but I loved

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<v Speaker 2>connection and storytelling. And I didn't have like a you

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<v Speaker 2>know this, it's a new culture now with fame and

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<v Speaker 2>all those kind of things. But my love was seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody took a song and made it a part

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<v Speaker 2>of their core memory of their life. They can go

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<v Speaker 2>back in time. And when we were doing the Innis

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<v Speaker 2>and Eyes tour, I could see when we'd like play

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<v Speaker 2>not min at Eye or something, and you could see

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<v Speaker 2>people taking their own story and like seeing their own

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<v Speaker 2>life come back to them as they're sitting there a

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<v Speaker 2>place of putting the CD player on, and it also

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<v Speaker 2>happens to me, you know, and with Mistaken Identity, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been going through the same process, and maybe because it

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<v Speaker 2>was a complicated time as well, I am enjoying it

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<v Speaker 2>as like a listener and dissecting it from a different place.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you then a little bit about that

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<v Speaker 1>complicated time, which was at the height of the success

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<v Speaker 1>of the release of the previous album, Innocent Eyes in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three, you were diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma

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<v Speaker 1>and the release of Mistaken Identity came. Really, when again

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you look at that twenty years ago, what an astounding

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<v Speaker 1>achievement to have gone through a really grueling treatment of

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<v Speaker 1>radiation and chemotherapy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, being a feeler and someone who'd come from

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<v Speaker 2>writing an album from an innocent place, like from a

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<v Speaker 2>wide eyed writing song about time and life and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being born to try or you know those kind of

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<v Speaker 2>that ethos that in that writing. Then it was I

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<v Speaker 2>was discovering many different musicians because my household didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like they had. My parents listened to

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<v Speaker 2>about three albums. It was like Jive Bunny, Joe Cocker

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<v Speaker 2>and John Farnham. And so when we hit the second album,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think I'd seen life in a very

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<v Speaker 2>different way as well, and it had. I'd started to

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<v Speaker 2>discover Torrier Moss and Stevie Nicks, and all of a

0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.040
<v Speaker 2>sudden I was eye opening to my eyes had opened

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<v Speaker 2>to Annie Lennox, and all of a sudden there was

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<v Speaker 2>all these new influences that I just didn't have on

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<v Speaker 2>the first album. So I was exploring that sort of

0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.600
<v Speaker 2>intensity from that place, because whilst it was a triumphant

0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.920
<v Speaker 2>moment to obviously stand there as a walking through and

0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.000
<v Speaker 2>being thankful to be a survivor, you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to walk from a different place as well, of what

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<v Speaker 2>is what do I feel now going into this? How

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<v Speaker 2>can I be of service now to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do good with other people that are

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<v Speaker 2>going through it? And even just yesterday I was on

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the plane and this gentleman behind me had said that

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<v Speaker 2>he was coming in for a stem cell treatment and

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<v Speaker 2>he was you know, he'd straight away open and I

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<v Speaker 2>get to hear everybody's stories throughout the course of my

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<v Speaker 2>life since that day. Every single day that someone shares

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<v Speaker 2>a story with me about their own journey about that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they've gone through or their friend has gone through.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that respect, I look at it like that

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<v Speaker 2>is a triumphant and that I can that so many

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<v Speaker 2>people have shared, you know, so many beautiful stories with

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<v Speaker 2>me of their strength that we can kind of come

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<v Speaker 2>together on and there's no wall of there's no you

0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.880
<v Speaker 2>don't have to there's no wall between us in like

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what it is to have the courage to

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<v Speaker 2>walk through when you when you're not feeling as brave

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<v Speaker 2>as what you you you know you would like to

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<v Speaker 2>in those moments. And I think that that's been pretty amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thankful that the last few years we've worked

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<v Speaker 2>hard at building my foundation now and that came from

0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 2>that moment. So I think in that aspect, yess, that's

0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:12.840
<v Speaker 2>the triumph that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, initiatives like the Delta Gridron Foundation and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I do know even firsthand that you do

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time speaking to other survivors and

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<v Speaker 1>cancer patients. Actually, if you don't mind me telling this story,

0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.320
<v Speaker 1>this was behind the scenes. I mean, this was not

0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.000
<v Speaker 1>anything that played out in public. A good family friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. About eight nine years ago, the daughter was

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with Hodgkins slimphoma. She was a huge fan of yours.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd gone to assigning in the shopping centers. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that when they were a lot of time today, I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I met most of Australia, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember this person had reached out to me

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<v Speaker 1>and said, look, I'm not sure if you know Delta Gudrin,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you think she might consider talking to my daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>And you did, and that's what happened on the phone,

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and you gave her about an hour of your time.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, a really sad footnote to that story was

0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that she did pass away later that year, and I

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.359
<v Speaker 1>did actually let you know, and you actually wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>really beautiful card to her mother. So again, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling this story without warning. But the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is because I know that there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're reluctant because it is authentic and genuine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't want people to think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you're doing for publicity, because we do live

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<v Speaker 1>in a culture where people always like to assign the

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<v Speaker 1>most uncharitable motives to other people. I you must look

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<v Speaker 1>back and think the empathy and the way that that

0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 1>experience has shaped you and the way that you've wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to give so much of your time do initiatives like

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<v Speaker 1>the Delta Goodroom Foundation. Do you think that would have

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<v Speaker 1>happened without that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think my heart would have always wanted to,

0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, something's come into your life to make good

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<v Speaker 2>of it for other people as well, like that that

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 2>was a part of me. But no, it wouldn't have

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.720
<v Speaker 2>been I wouldn't have been in this moment of the

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<v Speaker 2>Delta Goodom Foundation or have had that experience to talk

0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 2>from a place. So you're right, I would I So

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.439
<v Speaker 2>I look at it like, you know, like much like

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<v Speaker 2>when Olivia had sent me a note saying, one day

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<v Speaker 2>you'll understand it is a gift to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>have this understanding for people. And at the same time,

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's been a lot of conversations, but

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 2>people go through so much every single day, and I

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.359
<v Speaker 2>it's a long time ago for me now, but I

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<v Speaker 2>I and I've had so many different trials, what's trials

0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 2>by firearms different over the years, but the you know,

0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.520
<v Speaker 2>that sort of connection that bonded a lot of people

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:03.919
<v Speaker 2>with me and me with them. That music and life was.

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, cancer dos' discriminate, and it's it can just

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 2>you have to stay on top of your health. It's

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.639
<v Speaker 2>number one. All those life messages that might at times

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 2>feel cliche or earnest in songs or in conversation, they're

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 2>not because when someone's going through something really real and

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.000
<v Speaker 2>going through a moment in their life, those are those

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 2>those simple messages like fighter Christina Aguilera was on my playlist,

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Like it's as obvious as that sometimes and so in

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 2>that respect, I'm really proud to be able to work

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.720
<v Speaker 2>with like Saint Vincent's and from that day I'm a

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 2>very loyal person. So hence we're here, we are, He

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.560
<v Speaker 2>covers later, I'm very I'm very right or die as

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.719
<v Speaker 2>a character as it is. And once I love people,

0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I very much love people, and like that, I would

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.879
<v Speaker 2>do anything for the people I love. But you know,

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>the second that they had they had saved my life,

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I of course forever more was like what can I do?

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<v Speaker 2>How can I be of service? And when COVID happened,

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<v Speaker 2>it finally gave us the time to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>go okay, So how do I set this up properly

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a big believer in if it's worth doing,

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 2>it's worth doing well. And I don't like to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything without a purposeful reason or without a meaning of

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<v Speaker 2>doing it the best way I can, because I think

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 2>to be in this spot even twenty or more years later,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because I think the people who are a part

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<v Speaker 2>of my community or they know that I would never

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.359
<v Speaker 2>not put my heart and soul into anything I'm involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wouldn't do it otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to know. That was another silver lining of COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting a few silver linings that came out. The

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<v Speaker 1>birth of the Foundation was one of them. Delta, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you about the release of Mistaken

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Identity and what your memories are of that time. Out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Blue was their debut single, and as we've

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 1>touched upon, there was so much interest and fascination and

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone really did feel like they were rallying for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is not hyperbole. No, when you would even

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.679
<v Speaker 1>be walking red Cup of people would stop. It was

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.880
<v Speaker 1>like people were talking to Australia's daughter.

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and of course, no one person can actually

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 1>be the aunt or the daughter or the son.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you know what that's that can I share

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 2>with you my mom? My mom had lost her parents

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 2>young and so we didn't get to grow up with

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>them same And one day my mother said she had

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.199
<v Speaker 2>like a moment and she got a bit teary, and

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 2>she said, I wish that my you know, my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and dad were here to be able to share you know,

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 2>life life moments together. And I said, don't worry, mom,

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I've said, besides them being above watching, we've got You've

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>got many aunties and uncles in Australia. Here, we look

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.679
<v Speaker 2>like we can look at that two woman that came

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and chatted to us there, he's let's consider him an

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 2>uncle and auntie your sister or brother. And I have

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 2>felt that connection and I don't take it for granted

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 2>that that is I feel like that I don't know whose.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when I feel like sometimes my space invading.

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes when people like just jump into conversation with me

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and go delta. So at this time did it And

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I just jumped straight in And I'm like, is it

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 2>me who's like a bit out there where? I'm like, yes,

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I know. Let's just I feel like I know everyone

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>as much as they feel me in those energies. Not everybody,

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>because obviously there's not going to be there's everyone has

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.479
<v Speaker 2>their own worlds going on, but people who have chosen

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe and we've had a connection in some moment or another.

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<v Speaker 2>When we have that interaction, I normally feel just as

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 2>connected as if I've watched their life too. It's a

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 2>very strange feeling, and I'm not sure if that I

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>may not explain that.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually makes perfect sense. It really does because and

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 1>it's such a great insight into what I think, in

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>current parlance would be the parasocial relationship, which is where

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>a person really identifies or feels like they know someone

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a public figure or someone that they know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also I feel that I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I said, when the album came out, there

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of expectation, a lot of love, a

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of people really rallying behind you as you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the whole country of extended family for you and

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>for your mum and your own family. And then did

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that also then bring with it a sense of pressure

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because the expectation on any follow up album, when it's

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>on the heels of something super nova as innocent eyes

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>was already brings a cute pressure and expectation. But then,

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>as discussed, you're only nineteen about to turn twenty. You've

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>been through this incredibly confronting, life challenging experience at every

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>single level. Physically you obviously temporarily lost your hair as

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>a result of the chemotherapy treatment, So all of that.

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you about that side of the experience

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>when Mistaken Identity was released?

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, which part would you like to dive into,

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 2>because there's so much in that chapter, And there was

0:24:56.000 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, we had just broken in the UK, you know,

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, Elton John had called me on the first

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>day of my chemo. It was then I was back

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 2>out in the world and just trying to kind of

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>as a teenager, try to navigate. And you I think

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>everyone cared so as in like our team and my

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was with the record labels and it

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>was a totally different time of life and as a

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>culturally speaking as well when it came to how music

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 2>was going or how music was run. And I mean

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I just remember it being you know, it was I

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 2>guess the words that come to mind, and I'll keep

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 2>exploring it as I'm putting the show together because it's

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>definitely a deep dive. But I still remember being able

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to be an artist in the sense that I would

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 2>sort of go and escape to songwriting, like songs like

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Fragile and you can hear what's happening in my mind

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 2>on that album. That's how I can That's how I

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>can kind of go back in time as well, because

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.479
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it I also block out to kind

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of move on from, because I had become intense tabloid

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 2>conversation and that's something that nobody teaches you when you

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 2>first get into it. That was my first intense tabloid.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, paparazzi were chasing on the street.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>It was I was being the UK and it was

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, the bikes on the side and people were everywhere.

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 2>And when it came to the music side, I can

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>hear how expressive I was on It's a full bodied

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>musical like me and Guy Chambers in London then Billy Mann,

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>and we'd done like big orchestras in it, so I

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>can feel the want to just be. Its mood is intense,

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Like the analyst, I go into that song and I'm

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>like free her mind She's always the analyst, silence space,

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the corporate, the catalyst trying to make sense of this life.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 2>And I can hear my analytical side kind of stepping in.

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I put it a track to Is

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it the best pop song on the album? No, But

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 2>it had a message of what I was experiencing. And

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you go from the long haired, no shoed piano playing

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to all of a sudden, a totally different identity, which

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>is where that sort of the title came from. And

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you're questioning just everything, and I think putting the pieces

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>together from like a family side, from a music side,

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>and choices and I I'm I'm yeah, I'm still I

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 2>think that it was. It was a pretty There was

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of pressure to answer. In my roundabout way,

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of pressure, and I think I

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>cried a lot during that chapter. I think that I

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 2>was doing the best I could, and but it was

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>it was intense. It was an intense time.

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>It must be such an intense experience to use the

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>same word to go back and revisit that particular chapter,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I imagine doing so with innocent eyes was really eye opening.

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm scape and you know very then, but again, I

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I am. I'm sitting here with a with

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>going Wow, what an experience of life. You know, that

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 2>was another true experience to the colors of the rainbow.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>There is a depth and gravity that I can understand

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>from a place. I'm always somebody who when they go

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 2>through anything, I will take with me what I need

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to learn from and continue to try to learn, and

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 2>I will discard and just keep moving forward. I'm on

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the train going over this way, and I will continue

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>on my path to be the best version of myself

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>every day. And that that might have been an intense album,

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 2>but I think in rediscovering and going to and again,

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I say that as an album as a life moment,

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>but it was there was there was a lot of

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>amazing moments. I was there doing Top of the Pops

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>and we were in New York and we were doing

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>the Today Show, and we were doing you know, there

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>was there was a lot of amazing moments that were

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>happening with Out of the Blue Almost here had taken

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>off in Europe and we were flying from country to country.

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>But it was still just you know, I was just

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 2>a nineteen year old, twenty year old, and a lot

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>of it I'm still trying to remember.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm here to give you a little specific

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Look, I remember some bad fashion choices. I'm going to

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you on that.

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, never, How could you possibly be in the

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>public eye ephid twenty two years and had bad fashion choices?

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Never happened before. I can safely say to you that

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>there's I remember when I think it was a couple

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>of years ago when we were one of my girlfriends said,

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I really didn't like this outfit I

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>was wearying, and that I got papped out there before

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Now phones were a little bit more of the prevalent.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Now I've just given up.

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>In any.

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Here I am. But but I was like, oh, I

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>just disliked the outfit. She said, Oh babe, don't worry.

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>It can't be anything as bad as what you were

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 2>wearing in two thousand and four and five. And I

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I guess you're right there, you go.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I love that supporting feedback. Yeah, the outfit's are that bad? Well,

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it's true as it goes to the.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Theme of resilience, doing it, you learn, you go, Okay,

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I can get back from this bad outfits whatever it is,

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you learn.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I done good ones, but just some.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I certainly had a few. It wouldn't be a life

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>if there weren't, like a few bad wardrobe choices. I

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>think I speak for all of us when I say

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that part of the reason that a second album brings

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>all of that weight of expectation I was talking about

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>is because really, and we can. I think we can

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about this twenty years later. I wouldn't if I

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>was sitting in the studio, I wouldn't say it now, right, Okay, Delta,

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>this is make or break. So right now you've got

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>this massive career. But if this one's a fizzer, people

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>are going to go, oh, that was a one hit wonder.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's the spoiler alert. I think twenty years later

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>we can say, well, that was the next step, the

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>next chapter in what has clearly been not only very

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>successful career, but a career with longevity in it.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I can safely say that even I didn't feel that,

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have that kind of feeling when it came

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to I wasn't sort of and I still don't when

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>it comes to, oh, if this doesn't you know work

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 2>or my pursuit is to do great work, great projects,

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>great people. I don't have a I didn't have that

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>feeling on album too, like if this doesn't work anything, No,

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I would just sort of pick up and keep going

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 2>and find Okay, we'll let me dive deeper into sitting

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>at my piano and you know, finding what I want

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>to share and talk about. But again, it's for people

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>to pick up a part of them so as well.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have felt I wouldn't. I didn't feel that

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of pressure. It was more that there was just

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>an enormity going on around me and a lot of

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>people just just everybody. It It was just there was

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>just it was a coming from minnison and eye into

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>that record when you're doing I think for some reason

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>comes to mind at the areas and singing out of

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the Blue and just the amount of production and just

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>things that were going on. Was that was kind of

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>what had happened next.

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>The scale. The scale, as you say, you're traveling the

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>world and you're doing live TV in New York and you.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't look the same or you don't feel the same,

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 2>so you're trying to navigate that whilst a lot of

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>people are dissecting you and trying to put observations or

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>but again I I I that was that was then,

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and I kind of I appreciate that that's what was

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>going on at that moment.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>As you said, there were some parts of that chapter then,

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>were your first experience of that really unrelenting paparazzi interest

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and everyone following everything that you did, And then you've

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>already touched upon it. I think before you said trial

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>by Fire, and I wanted to ask you a little

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>bit about you have really ridden the roller coaster of

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the public like the highest of highs and then inevitably

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the lowest of lows. Everyone that has got any career

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that probably even honestly goes longer than a week is

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>going to feel the absolute love and then the absolute venom.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>And you have really experienced the absolute extremities of it.

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that? Looking back now? Do

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you feel I could anything shock you in terms of

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>people saying bad things about you because you have not

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>weathered it. But also those things would must presumably sting

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>when you're younger, but also when it's your first time

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>being exposed to that.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing I think, when you're first exposed

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>to it and then you're sort of getting the muscles

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>of understanding of how to how to put the umbrella

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>up and walk through it and then put it down,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>but again with a true intention and a clear And

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>then I knew that this too will pass. And then

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you also have to understand that's a career. You can't

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>always be one thing to everybody, or one or a

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 2>hero or a villain. You will in a career go

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 2>through different ebbs and flows, and it's up to you

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 2>to what you do next.

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and that's the thing. And you learn that each

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>time that you do, get back up and get on

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 1>with it. And then you learn that I don't.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Really read or look at anything though anymore now like

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 2>I definitely like when I was younger, I would see

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot more. I probably have to be. If something

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>comes up, I might say, you show me, but I

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't read or look at anything about myself.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I live my life. I have an amazing partner in

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>my life, and we live a good life, and we

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>get to tour of the world doing what we love

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to do and meeting great people.

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>And coming up Delta on how she and her fiance

0:34:53.719 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>celebrated their engagement. I was going to ask you about

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>turning forty. Actually, you have obviously gone and revisited two

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>albums on a successful tour. Is this something that you

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>think you might do for every single album that you're

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>going to do. Do you think you might put them

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>all together at some point.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>An anniversary of every album? Yes? Yes, well I'm really

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>enjoying it. But it is about the new music I am.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I am absolutely in the studio at the moment. Hence

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>why I didn't do the tour, because I was like,

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I need to keep writing the new music. I feel

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like I just love the new songs so much so

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely very ready for the new songs to start

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>to make their way out into the world soon. But

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>first steps first, right now with these shows, committing and

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>heading to London with them. So but yes, I you know,

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.479
<v Speaker 2>if it's a it's so much fun playing an album

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>from top to bottom from a time where now you

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 2>skip a lot more and you might have singles, but

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>in you know, having each album playing top to bottom,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>who knows. I mean, I hadn't thought about the next

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>one yet. We've had so many projects go on. I

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't got to that one day at a time.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you got to love journees, don't you. I was

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.919
<v Speaker 1>sitting here going, well, what's the next what's the next time?

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you thinking? I haven't even done the current one.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I obviously would love to ask you about your record label.

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>You have your own record label, now.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Tell me about that.

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>What inspired you to do that and what are your

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>plans for it as a record label?

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I mean if i'd been in a

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>signed to a record label for longer than I hadn't

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 2>in life. So if I was signed when I was fourteen,

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years old, so I only knew label life more

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 2>than I didn't know being signed to a label, and

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>then COVID really did change a lot. I think it

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>had like that sort of propeller on people with different

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>life moments. We just had Bridge Over Trouble Dreams, the

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>album go number one, and we worked really hard as

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 2>a team, and I just I just remember feeling that

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 2>sense of understanding how much the world was changing and

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>how much I'd learned. I was doing these bunk annowned

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>sessions on my socials and just you know, obviously because

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>when we were at home and we kept doing the music,

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>but we started to see how much just how much

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 2>the communication was happening now, and I was learning how

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to use my phone, how to be connected through our

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>phones and be able to and I understood how quick

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>everything was. And I think that I started starting to

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>see that there was a new model that was out

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>there in a different way, rather than just accepting an

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>old path that had sort of been now there was

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>an evolution, and I enjoyed the creative aspect of that.

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>We were starting to have a lot of fun with

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>my creativity, being able to be out of the box

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>with doing projects, making Christmas shows and doing and I

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>really relish in sort of creating a project. And I

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>just had a feeling in my heart that, you know,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>things were changing, and I felt like I wanted to

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 2>be able to move into the new era a new

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 2>way and see how I could efficiently be able to

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>create and be with a core team. And that kind

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of just that evolution, and I think there was an

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 2>opening there where there was a change of guards and

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 2>change of season when it came to even with the

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>voice and with the label and everything, and I just

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of said, I'm gonna I want to go over here.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And I have been walking a path that you know,

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 2>for me has been less troubled, but it's been exciting.

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 2>We've been able to tour the world with Backshitt Boys

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and Shanaia and it just Yeah, I'm really proud of

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the last four years. And starting the label felt like

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>a natural thing when you've been in label your whole

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>life and now there's a new version of that that

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel strong about being able to create for the

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:48.919
<v Speaker 2>next gym as well.

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It must be quite an adjustment then, going from being

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>part of a label for as you say, most of

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>your conscious life and then all of a sudden not

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>hadn't really thought about it from that outside of the

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>work aspect, just part of the identity. So yes, turning forty.

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>So I did want to ask you about that. Something

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that we talk about a lot women on this podcast

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>is the changing nature of visibility of women and just

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the options that are open to women as they get older.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>If you look back, you know, even only ten twenty

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>years ago, I was like, right, in this age, that's

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what it means. Certain I've had women in here in

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>their fifties and sixties. For you, only being forty is

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously a younger lens on it, but it's the same

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>thing I would imagine when you look at the women

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that you were looking to in the public eye when

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you were growing up, and also just personally your mum's generation,

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the old labels and barriers that were so commonplace don't

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>seem to be in place anymore.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I know, what an exciting time for us to be

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>able to have that. I recognize that. That's just it's

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 2>so fantastic. It's so wonderful to be able to you know,

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 2>it's time. There's no timeless you know, where whenever your

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>time is, there's no you know, I wrote a song

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 2>on my first record in my own time, and I

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>do truly believe that your timing is right for you.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have things that I would have

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 2>thought on different times in my life, but I love

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 2>that my time is on my own time. And I

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 2>think that how fantastic that society has shifted to where

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, there is there is no limit on you.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 2>You can be whatever you want to be at any

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>age you go for it, you know, and lifting each

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 2>other up in that space and and celebrating that they're

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 2>different chapters of your life and being able that's so cool.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>That's really awesome.

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask Delta when going back to your treatment,

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and we just talked about that period of your life

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>after the diagnosis with Hodgkins slim foma, A question that

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>all women in the public eye is also asked about.

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So what are you doing to look good? And how

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>are you feeling today? And are you looking? Do you

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>want to wear this dress? And that scrutiny and pressure

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>at the physical appearance. I mean, obviously you look amazing,

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>and those questions probably will come one day, but I'm

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 1>sure were even when you were twenty, people were saying, oh,

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, maybe we're this dress instead of that dress.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Going through that life challenging experience, did that put the

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>physical side of things into perspective a little bit for

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you in terms of the mortality aspect of this conversation

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>that again I think all of us grapple with as

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we're going through life.

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I never had it as my forward like my first step.

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. Whilst I'm so grateful to have hair and

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 2>makeup when it came to doing my job or feeling

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 2>the best I could, it wasn't. I really I think

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 2>that that, you know, I I was pretty, you know,

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I loved coming up with like what outfit

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>of my wearing on stage that would be a passion,

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't a I've never really had that passion

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 2>for like day to day, where I think that might

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>be a misconception maybe for me, like I don't really

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't have like a excitement of what I'm going

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 2>to wear for this today, like as in day to day.

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>But I love when it's like theatrical or stage or

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, what we're going to do that meets that

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 2>performance or that's that's a passion of mine. But when

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>it comes to no one ever really, I don't think

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>for me in my journey when when people talk about

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, did someone say where this or where that?

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I've always been very strong minded as well. I never

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 2>really I've always been I'm not that person that whilst

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm open and I'm always like, best best idea in

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the room wins best like thought process and our friction

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>makes motion. Best best thought that we move forward to

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>be able to get the best solution wins when including

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 2>like does this look great? But this is this look great?

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that aspect, but I'm not as I'm not,

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess I sort of it's a lot more prevalent

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>now with people with their social media and their phones

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and that sort of but that wasn't really a passion,

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and you'd see for me, I, you know, I'm a

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 2>little more shy when it comes to you know, I

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>want to look my best the best I can, and

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>at times I'll notice, So I better get better, get

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 2>running a bit more, I bet, you know. But I'm

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot more driven from a different place that's not Yeah,

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's makes sense, and I'm not

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>sure if I'm quite tired today. So if I'm articulating

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 2>anything and if don't make any sense, this would be

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a miracle.

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Well it's a miracle. It makes It makes a lot

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of sense, And I think it's a really fascinating answer,

0:43:52.400 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>because really the question was me queering whether your attitude

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to the sea that we all swim in, whether you're

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in the public eye or not totally, whether you are twenty,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>whether you're forty, whether you.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 2>What school, whether you're like all women know, yeah, there's

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.479
<v Speaker 2>that moment where everone goes, so what are you wearing

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 2>or what do you look like?

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Or oh you look too young, or you look too old,

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>or you need to put on weight. Oh no, they

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>know you've lost too much weighted. It's it is a

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>very general cultural part I would argue of being a woman.

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was curious whether that experience of losing your

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>hair temporarily at twenty, whether that had shaped it. But

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm hearing is that for you, it was always

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.720
<v Speaker 1>more the physicality and fashion was more part of storytelling

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>for you.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that was it was hard being that

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 2>moment feeling good. Of course that wasn't and you know

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I it definitely you know what we're hitting on a

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.760
<v Speaker 2>call is actually prior to that, I was very naturally

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 2>just you know, it wasn't my emphasis. I'd be like, oh, yeah,

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>that looks great. I love that dress over jeans. I

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was very casual about the way I approached I loved

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>something that I looked nice, or this looks nice. It

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>was very natural organically. I didn't use it as my

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>sort of number one thought process of what am I

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 2>going to wear for this? But then when I went

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 2>through losing my hair and losing a you know, you

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>you are inflames from the different steroids or all those

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of things that are going on, or your eyebells

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 2>have gone gray, because that's just what happens, so yes,

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 2>and then I had braces at the time too because

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 2>my teeth maybe, so it was definitely I definitely then

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 2>got you know, definitely wanted to sort of hermit a

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>little bit more. But I think I have hermited a

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 2>lot when I just need to kind of recover or

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 2>but then sort of you know, then i'd my hair

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 2>was coming back, and I just you know, it was

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 2>just not I wasn't rocking it at all. And I appreciate,

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, when we get to get dressed up and play,

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 2>but if you caught me at home, I'm very much

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 2>very track suits at home.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>You are engaged and you share parts of your life,

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 1>like your engagement on social media, but then also very private.

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And again from an outsider perspective, it doesn't look like

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>there's any tussle about that. I'm sure people are asking

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you questions or fans all the time, but from a

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>public perspective, it looks like people give you the space

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>at this point in your life to live your life,

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 1>but then you're also not it's not a secret. Is

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that a fair observation?

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent? I think that's exactly what it is.

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel when we got engaged. We were. It was

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 2>the day before that we shared the photo before we

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 2>were on stage, and I was tussling so bad in

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>that moment, but I was like, you know, it's we

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>just share it, share it, you know. And then it

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like during that tour, it was so

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>beautiful because each place is saying, you know, have the engagement.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 2>It felt like we've done an engagement party in every

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 2>single city while we were doing those shows. And I

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 2>thought that was just so beautiful in the way that

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 2>we got to kind of share that in our own way,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 2>which was we're open on stage, we're on stage together,

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 2>we are there, and it is you know, it is

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 2>also a love language for us as being up there.

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But I do love keeping us as a sacred house too,

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and that's important for me, and I choose. It's like

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the same with my family. I choose to to stand

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in my authentic self with my love for music and

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 2>my love for the arts or doing shows and you

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>know and projects. But you know, you know, he chooses

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>music as well, so that's a form. But he doesn't

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>choose this, or my brother doesn't, my mom, dad don't.

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 2>And I kind of have learned that from over time,

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 2>and that that's what works for.

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Me absolutely, and I think it's obvious that that has

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 1>been learned because there are some things in life that

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you can only get that balance when.

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 2>You've lived through it. There's no real book to that,

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 2>but that's what I'm saying about life. You know, I

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.399
<v Speaker 2>really this is such a wonderful chapter because all those

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 2>different moments that leads you to where you are, where

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 2>you go, you can kind of find those boundaries which

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:27.839
<v Speaker 2>are right for you. And you know that doesn't mean

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>things won't change over time, but I feel, you know,

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy where we're at with sharing my other parts

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 2>of me.

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Final question, can I just go back where we started

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 1>when I was talking about the eight stellar covers and

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that you and I met, which was Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 1>November two thousand and two. You were only so young

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I mean, if you hadn't been in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry, you would have still been possibly at school,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like you might have been finishing up year twelve

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<v Speaker 1>in that night.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been in year twelve. I didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>Year eleven and twelve. Yep, I was on neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>I've taken you back a lot, but I would like

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<v Speaker 1>just to end on that moment. If you look back

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<v Speaker 1>to that Delta Good Room back then end of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two, before publicly at least everything changed with

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<v Speaker 1>Born to Try being released. What would you say to

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<v Speaker 1>her is if you had to give her one piece

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<v Speaker 1>of advice or one observation, or one joke or something.

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<v Speaker 2>One time we say this, it's very funny. How would you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell it a fob off that annoying futures della editor

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll be sitting opposite in March twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>so going back to that studio obviously in Melbourne because

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<v Speaker 1>you were filming Neighbors at the time, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think would be your message to her if you had

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity to go back in the little time?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's just I would also say

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<v Speaker 2>staying strong in you know what's important as you I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if what I find is that to separate

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<v Speaker 2>from so much noise, you have to have those quiet

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<v Speaker 2>moments to be able to really hear your the voice within,

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to stay strong. And I think in

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<v Speaker 2>the moments of when you have maybe not the best

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<v Speaker 2>people around you, or you know there's there can be

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<v Speaker 2>different so much influences and you know, noises and this

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<v Speaker 2>and this and this. I think always removing yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>taking a moment to really sit in what is what

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<v Speaker 2>is the You are the sort of north star of

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<v Speaker 2>this whole ship. How do you kind of go forward

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<v Speaker 2>in the right way? I think just I would always

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<v Speaker 2>just say just keep you know. If a reflective side,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say just always keep you know, making sure you

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<v Speaker 2>find those quiet times by yourself to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>always step back into that. But otherwise I just also

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<v Speaker 2>tell her that it just gets even more fun as

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<v Speaker 2>time goes on and you're about to experience a wild ride,

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<v Speaker 2>but always what you got into it for in the

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<v Speaker 2>attention and the thoss of the love and light through

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<v Speaker 2>song and shared experience as humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Delta, it's been really lovely to chat to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy belated fortieth birthday by the way, Thank you and

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to seeing you on stage. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>Delta Gudrum Mistaken Identity, a night of celebration, is on

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth of April at the Sydney Opera House. Tickets

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<v Speaker 1>are available through deltagudroom dot com and you'll find the

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<v Speaker 1>link in our show notes. You'll also find a link

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<v Speaker 1>in our show notes if you'd like to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>interview or any others of the Stellar Podcast on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining me today. I hope you enjoyed

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