1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,479 Speaker 1: I could not have done Hamilton, any of it, the auditions, 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: the show without Rob's support and being a constant soundboard 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: and cheerleader for me. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: I feel like if it wasn't for Chloe, there's a 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: good chance I probably wouldn't be a performer anymore. But 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: we live in a performer's household, you know. We call 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: each other. We talk to each other about performing issues 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: and maintaining our career and our mental health around it. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: Welcome to separate bathrooms. I'm Ali Dado. 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 4: And this is my husband Cameroon. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: Cameroon Dado. Are you doing your Spanish self today. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 5: Or whatever that is being the actor that you are. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 5: We are talking to two actors, Chloe Zuel and Rob Mallett. 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 5: They're married, They've been married for a couple of years. 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 5: Chloe is currently starring as Eliza Hamilton in Hamilton. Holy Moly, 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 5: is this woman incredible. She has starred as Katherine of 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 5: Aragon in six She's done a nice in West Side Story, 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 5: just to name a few. She's incredibly talented, and she's 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 5: married to a very talented fellow. 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 6: Rob Mallett, who really for me. 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: We met a few years ago we did the Rocky 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: Horror show, and it was evident to me after about 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: two weeks of rehearsals that we were brothers from another mother. 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: It was a terrific bloke. Chloe and I worked together 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 4: in Legally Blonde a number of years ago, and these two, 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: when I heard they got together, We're just like, Oh, 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: what a perfect what a perfect dexter would have given 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: him a ten. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: They would have been sent to Stradbog Island, they would 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: have gotten down. 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: They are joining us today in the bathroom to talk 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: about all things early relationship. They've got a young marriage there, 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: separated at the moment because of COVID. Rob's in Tazzy, 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: Chloe's at home in Sydney. Let's bring him into the bathroom. Hi, 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: Chloe and Rob them conversation. 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: How often do you guys zoom each other? You're in 37 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: separate states, right, Yeah, we are. 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: We're zooming each other pretty regularly at the moment. I'm 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: currently in hotel quarantine in Tazzy and clothes in lockdown 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: in Sydney. So we're on the blower to each other 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: pretty regularly at the moment. 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you two actually meet? 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: We were shown nance, so we met on Lams. 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: We first met in hang I say that slowly you 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 4: were a what come on? 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: Can? 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: We were, Well, I'm only saying I'm saying that for 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: our listener. I'm saying that for our listener because they 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: don't understand. 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: That for Tracy and but a show nance is a 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: relationship that blossoms on a show. But actually is the 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: definition for show nance a romance? It only exists within 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: the show. I'm not sure if so, we're not. 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 7: I think it is okay. 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: So we met on Lane, I think. 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: And because I think everyone was calling it a showmance 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: and we were like, it's not a show mat with 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: a real deal. See we proved it. 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: So what was the show again? 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Leni's Arb which we started in twenty fourteen and toured. 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: So we were fast friends when we started rehearsals in Melbourne, 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: but then took a while to find each other and flourish. 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: But then, yeah, we were lucky enough to then be 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: on tour with each other for a good year and 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: then have never worked together since. 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: Is that probably a good thing, do you think in 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: relationship wise, when you've got two actors in the family 68 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: or would it be a good or? 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: I guess I would say, but. 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like we worked well together 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: then and we Yeah, it's hard to know, given that 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: we've never worked together since. 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd love to do a show with Rob I 74 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: love I'd love it for so many reasons, Like I 75 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: really respect him as an actor and a performer, so 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I would love to be on the floor with him, 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: watching him work and you know, playing off each other. 78 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I would love that, And I would love to have 79 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: a shared experience again, Yeah, because I think that's really beautiful. 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: And the logistical part of it, which is that you 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: get to live together and be in the same place, 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: which is not, as you both know, not always the 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: case when you're working. It's often you get this great 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: job and this great opportunity, but the compromise, the sacrifice, 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: is that you're away from your family and your partner. 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would love it. 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: What was the attraction for both of you to each other? 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: Take it away? 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Oh, it's me first. Okay, It's hard to explain, I 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: think because we instantly became friends, and you know when 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: you just you can net with someone and you instantly 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: know like, oh, this this person is my people. You know. 93 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: There was like a night really early on maybe week 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: two of rehearsals, or week one that we all went 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: out and got dinner and Rob and I just chatted 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: for the whole night and really got along and shared 97 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: the same views. And then we were the only people 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: at work that brought our own lunch to rehearsals, Like 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: everyone else would go out for lunch, and we would 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: always bring our own. So we're always in the green 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: room together just hanging out and chatting. And yeah, I 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: think that's what made us friends. Initially, we just we 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: were kind of like magnets. We just worked as as 104 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: a team as friends. And then I think, I don't, 105 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it felt like overnight we 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: went from being friends to like, oh, hold on, is 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: this friendship or is this something else? 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: What is this? I don't know, Roch totally. I agree. 109 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: It grew completely organically. And you know, next and we're 110 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: sharing Spotify playlists and you know, developing all these sort 111 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: of mutual interests and passions. 112 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: How's navigating the separation? You know, you've only been you've 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: been married two years, but obviously you've been you were 114 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: dating a bit longer than that. And how's that been 115 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: for you? 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? 117 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: I mean, thankfully We've got plenty of practice of it. 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: But unfortunately this period, you know, is as just messy 119 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: as you know, the whole situation that we're in at 120 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: the moment, given that we're going to have to now 121 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: spend eight, nine, ten weeks apart or whatever it is, 122 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: and we've never had to do that, and we've worked 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: all across the world, you know, I've spent periods of 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: months in Japan, and Chloe's done cruise ships through Asia 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: and tours in Germany and blah blah blah, and yet 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: we've still managed to make it work. We've never spent 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: more than about four weeks apart. If we're touring within Australia, 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: we always. 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: In seven years we've spent maximum five weeks, I think. 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, when we're touring within pretty make sure that it's 131 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: a fortnightly trip to see each other. And you know, 132 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: the idea that we're going to have to spend the 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: longest time in part and we're only Sydney to Hobart 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: is outrageous. But anyway, it's just the side of the times. So, yeah, 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: how do we manage constant communication? And yeah, just making 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: that sacrifice to get on a plane and go see 137 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: each other. You know, it's critical. 138 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, how are we managing at the moment? I 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: complain a lot, and it's only been two weeks. It's 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: so boring, you know, like having your best friend and 141 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: the person that you want to spend all your time 142 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: with on the other end of a phone. Yeah, And 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean in saying that we're so lucky that we 144 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: have FaceTime and text and it's not a phone call 145 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: or a letter. Very grateful for it, but it's like 146 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: so close but so far, And I think when I 147 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: think about the fact that it's nine or ten weeks, 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: I feel really overwhelmed. So for me, I need to 149 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: just stay present and stay in the moment and not 150 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: think about, oh god, what is to be like next 151 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: week when he's really busy and working and I'm just 152 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: staring at my wall at home in Sydney in week 153 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: twelve of lockdown. I just sort of have to do 154 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: it day by day and be grateful for the facetimes 155 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: that we get and know that it's just a short 156 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: amount of time in the grand scheme of our lives together. 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: So Rob, luckily you're I mean, even though it's separated, 159 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: you both you're in Tazzi. 160 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: You're able to work. Chloe. 161 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: You are the lead in Hamilton, which we saw opening night, 162 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 5: and you are beyond spectacular by the way. You just 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 5: so phenomenal. How has COVID impacted you, because I know 164 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 5: Hamilton has come to a standstill. 165 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: How has that felt for you? 166 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how it felt for you. Guys that 167 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: first week when we went into lockdown. Are you both 168 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: in Sydney? Yeah, yeah, so you. 169 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 7: Remember how it was. 170 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: It felt a little bit like, Okay, cool, it's just 171 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: going to be this week or next week and then 172 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: we'll be out of it. It's a bit of a 173 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: precautionary lockdown. And so, to be really honest, I think 174 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: Hamilton is a lot harder than it looks. I found 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: it very difficult to manage doing the eight shows a week. 176 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: I was really run down and desperately needed a break. 177 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: So honestly, my first reaction was like, oh God, I 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: really need this one week break, you know, just one 179 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: week off and I'll be back. And then even two 180 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: weeks it was like, Okay, one week off and then 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: I'll just work on some things for the show and 182 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: I'll be going back. And I didn't go and get 183 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: anything from my dressing room. I just thought i'd be 184 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: back to work really soon. As we know, the two 185 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: weeks past and it has gone on and on and on, 186 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: and it became very clear early on that it was 187 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: going to be for the long term, and so I 188 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: feel like we both had day around a month in. 189 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I think it was around when the protests were on 190 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: and we felt really weighed down by the situation and 191 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: I felt like, oh God, we're back here again. But 192 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: I've actually come to terms with the fact that this 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: is what we're doing, and I flipped it and used 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: this time to rest rejuvenate, and you know, I know 195 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: that we will be back. I know that Hamilton will 196 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: come back. Whereas last Lockdown that wasn't the case. I 197 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: was doing six and Everything, six the musical I'm in 198 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: and after a few months of rehearsing and opening the 199 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: show in Sydney, the show closed and COVID happened and 200 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: we never went back. And so last Lockdown I was 201 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: doing it with nothing at the other side of it, 202 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: whereas this I know I have something to look forward to, 203 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: something to work towards, and I know we'll be back. 204 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: So I think I just have a different perspective. I'm 205 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: very lucky. You know, we're here in Sydney, in our 206 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: place in Clovellly I live. My five kilometer radius is 207 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: COULDI Beach, Bronti, Bonda, Clovelli Centennial Park. I can walk 208 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: to all of those places, you know. I feel grateful 209 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: for that. 210 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, what was it like, Rob? 211 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: Because I know we texted before Chloe went on that 212 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: night and you were excited. I didn't actually get to 213 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: speak to you that night. How was How was that 214 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: moment when your wife appeared on stage? 215 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: It's kind of surreal, isn't it. Like you know, Chloe 216 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: and I often say this that we have been super 217 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: fans of Hamilton since, you know, we first heard it 218 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen or whatever it was, and we still are, 219 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: you know, And that's kind of rare that, you know, 220 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: we've listened to that soundtrack so many times and we 221 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: know the show intimately now and yet we still are 222 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: such fans of the work. And yeah, it's huge, psychonic 223 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: and it's surreal to be so close to it, you know, 224 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: and to see Chloe's work like it's just such a 225 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: credit to her to get the role and to be 226 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: so Yeah, the work just speaks for itself, if for 227 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: anyone who is able to see her in it. 228 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: You said, Babe that you felt sick before you came 229 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: to the show because it was the first time you 230 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: were seeing Hamilton. 231 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: Was that that? Sure? 232 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you were sitting in the food court feeling 233 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: sick about just being nervous to me and nervous for 234 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: the first time you're seeing this show that you love. 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: Of course, thanks for bringing the real stuff in. 236 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: Expectations. I know. 237 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I always feel sick when I go when 238 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 5: it's opening night. For you, I get it's that nervousness. 239 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: I'm really really excited. 240 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: But I mean I'm not in the industry at all. 241 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: But so you guys know it much better than I do. 242 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: But I always feel really like, oh, my stomach is 243 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: not for you. 244 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: So I always give you good reason to feel that 245 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: way because I'm so bloody. 246 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 7: Insecure, aren't we all? 247 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Though? Are you? 248 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 6: Do you guys feel like that. 249 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I could not have done Hamilton, any of it that auditions, 250 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: the show without Rob's support and being a constant soundboard 251 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: and cheerleader for me the whole time, the whole time everything. 252 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: You know, I will come home and talk about a 253 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: scene and chat through different ideas about it and we 254 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: talk it through. And I mean when I auditioned for Hamilton, 255 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: it was the second part of it was all via 256 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: tapes and that was I mean, I don't know how 257 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: you two go with self tapes, but the two of 258 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: us do not go well. And we had this really big, 259 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: high pressure thing that we were doing in lockdown in 260 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: Tasmania last year and I was stressed and Rob was 261 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: trying to help me with it, and yeah, I couldn't 262 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: do it without Rob. And so that's why he probably 263 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: felt nervous because he knew intimately how I was feeling 264 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: about that moment. 265 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: And are you are you the same? Rob? Does? Does 266 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: Chloe support you with your She does? 267 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: She does. I mean it's worth noting the closest we've 268 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: ever come to divorce is self tag Oh my god, 269 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: they're disasters. 270 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we hate those stuff. We stopped doing them together, 271 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: but then in lockdowns you have no choice. 272 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 273 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a recipe for disaster. 274 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: Did I I think I read somewhere Chloe that you 275 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: for this role of Eliza in Hamilton, that you had 276 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 5: like like a picture board and you had intentions, set 277 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: a vision, board, and can you tell us about that 278 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: and tell us what that meant to you and how 279 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: that worked for clearly it was this success. 280 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: But it's funny, isn't it. You Know, people talk about 281 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: manifesting a lot. It's kind of like a cool hip 282 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: thing to say over the last few years. And honestly, 283 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: there was a point maybe four years ago. I'm trying 284 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: to think it was just after lamy Is where I 285 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: desperately wanted to be Princess Jasmine in Aladdin and I 286 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: thought that I was manifesting that I don't know what 287 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: I was doing, but I don't I wasn't doing it 288 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: right anyway. I didn't get that role and I didn't 289 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: get another role, both in the same day. And it 290 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: was this really overwhelming day for me because it was 291 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the first time that I'd been able to submit for 292 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: a lead role because it specifically both of them were 293 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: specifically ethnically diverse, and I felt like if I couldn't 294 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: get either of those roles, then I may as well 295 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: just give up. And I was angry at manifesting and 296 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: I was like, it doesn't work. I tried really hard, 297 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: it sucks, and I was, you know, called rob crying 298 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: saying I'm going to quit. I'm over it, I'm done 299 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: with the industry. Rob talked me off the ledge, you know, 300 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: he said, you're more than your work, and he brought 301 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: me a bunch of beautiful flowers and you know, let 302 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: me cry for a long time. And so after that, 303 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I stopped sort of putting things out there that I 304 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: wanted because I think I was scared of it. And 305 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: then when it came to Hamilton, I think it was 306 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: around two thoy and sixteen or seventeen, I was like, 307 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I really feel like I'm going to be in that show. 308 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel like that. I feel 309 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: almost detached from the feeling. It's just like a knowing. 310 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: And I felt brave enough with some encouragement from a 311 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: friend to put it on a vision board. It was 312 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: the first time i'd made a vision board, and she 313 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: was really into it, and I was like, okay, yeah, 314 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I'll do it with you. We'll do it on New's Eve. 315 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: And so we made these vision boards and I put 316 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: Hamilton all over it. I actually put a different role. 317 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: I put Angelica on there because I thought that's what 318 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I was right for, and just Hamilton in general put 319 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: that on my vision board and that was twenty sixteen, 320 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: I think. And then I also wrote a note in 321 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: my phone saying I can't even remember what it was, like, 322 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that I got the role in Hamilton, 323 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, writing like a thank you to 324 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: the universe letter, and that sat in my phone for 325 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: a few years as well. So that's the first time 326 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: since the big letdown that I had put all of 327 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: my hope and manifesting into one show, one role. And 328 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: it is kind of a testament to manifesting something that 329 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: just you can manifest it, but it's going to come 330 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: to you in whatever way it's meant to come to you. 331 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Like I really thought that I was Angelica, but it 332 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: turns out I wasn't. I'm very much an Eliza and 333 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: it just came to me in a different way. 334 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the last bit you just said, then 335 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 4: be open to the different ways that it can happen, 336 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: because we get so I do anyway I get. I 337 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: can get very specific about manifesting, and then when it 338 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 4: doesn't look like I think it's going to in my mind, 339 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 4: I feel like I miss it sometimes because it's happened 340 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: in a different way. 341 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 6: But I've gone, Oh. 342 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard something once that it was like, you know, 343 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: manifesting is like going to a restaurant and ordering exactly 344 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: what you want, but then being happy with whatever comes out. 345 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: So you put out a specific order of what you 346 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: would like, but then you let go of the result 347 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: of what it actually will turn out to be. But 348 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Cam, you know, it's things are 349 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: happening around it, and you sometimes miss it because you're 350 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: so focused on that one specific thing. 351 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I like. 352 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: The idea of a you order a steak sandwich and 353 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: it comes deconstructed. 354 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. 355 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 5: Are you are you similar in that way? Rob? 356 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: Are you a manifesto? 357 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: Look, I'm sort of naturally a bit skeptic of all 358 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: of this stuff traditionally, but you know, it's in the earth. 359 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: Then one of my huge kind of growth areas with 360 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: Chloe that she's brought me alongside lots of stuff. And 361 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: you know what I've come to realize is that And 362 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, New Year's Eve just gone. We sat and 363 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: we did our vision boards and they hang in our 364 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: bedrooms currently bedroom. Sorry we do have one bedroom. 365 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Your separate bedrooms at the moment. 366 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: But what I've kind of realize is that really it 367 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: is just another way of goal setting, you know, and 368 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: so many people so often just have this notion of 369 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: I want to succeed, I want to particularly performing. It's 370 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: like I want to get a show, I want to 371 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: get a lead. It just it demands you to be specific. 372 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: What show? What lead? What are you going to do 373 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: to get it? You know? 374 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: And why? 375 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 376 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: What I loved about both of you when we were 377 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: working together, Rob and I had a romance. You guys 378 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: had your showmance. We had a bromance there in Adelaide 379 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: doing Rocky Horror. You both are very dedicated to to 380 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 4: what you do in this Australia. In industry, we have 381 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: to be diverse, don't we. We have to be able 382 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: to be nimble and jump from one like from TV 383 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: as you say, to stage two, cabaret, whatever it is 384 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: to stay working. Because there are difficult times in our game, 385 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: and you guys have both experienced the tougher times. Tell 386 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: us about some of those and how you navigate those. 387 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: I feel like Clo and I navigate it both very 388 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: differently and wear some of those things differently. I feel 389 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: like I just have a naturally kind of healthy level 390 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: of stolicism that are able to kind of cop some 391 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: of those setbacks and move on. Don't get me wrong, 392 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: I have my fair share of meltdowns as well. But 393 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, there's some sort of sayings that hang in 394 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: the back of my head that I constantly have to 395 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: remind myself, which is that you know, for every opportunity 396 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: that doesn't come your way, there is something bigger just 397 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: around the corner. That is so often the case, even 398 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: though you know, months into these kind of dark periods 399 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: where we just miss out on gig after gig after gig, 400 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: we're constantly like, where is this opportunity coming? But invariably 401 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: it does come each other. I mean, you know, we 402 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: I feel like, if it wasn't for Chloe, there's a 403 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: good chance I probably wouldn't be a performer anymore. But 404 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: we live in a performer's household, you know, we call 405 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: each other, We talk to each other about performing issues 406 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: and maintaining our career and our mental health around it. 407 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: So it would be such a shame if you weren't 408 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: a performer anymore, because you're so good and you've got 409 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: so much more to share. So I think I probably 410 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: bully you into persisting sometimes, But I'm not like, I'm 411 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: not apologizing for it because I think while you are 412 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: someone that is so versatile, and you are that person 413 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: that is good at everything. You know, you went from 414 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: picking apples last year to being a mechanic and what else, 415 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: Like every job that you do you're very good at. 416 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: I just think you've got time. 417 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: To do that. Thanks, that's very kind. I think, you know, 418 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: I suffer a bit from that comparison thing. You know, 419 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: I look at guys I went to school with and stuff. 420 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: Who are you know, owning businesses and so successful, and 421 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: you just it's hard. I remember signing Lise and theater. 422 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: I think to us once early on in Lame Is, 423 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it's hard to feel like we are 424 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: adults as actors. You know, you sort of trap sing 425 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: in and playing dress ups and it's very unglamorous backstage, 426 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: you know, and it's meaningful work and all that stuff, 427 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: but it really it feels like you're always sitting at 428 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: the kiddie table at Christmas dinner. You know, you never 429 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: kind of get to sit with the adults. So it's 430 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: those things that you know, there's a cost, a personal 431 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: cost sometimes when you go through these long periods of 432 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: rejection and yeah, underemployment. 433 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: I mean you've touched on some great things there. I 434 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: agree with you about the acting feeling a bit childlike 435 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: because we're told what to say, we're told what to wear, 436 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: we're told when we can go and have a break, 437 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: all those things you're needed. Now, come stand here, say 438 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: those lines, wear these clothes, and go home. And sometimes 439 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: we get paid a lot of money. A lot of 440 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: times that money has to stretch over months and months, 441 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: and people don't understand that. 442 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: Is it too personal a question to ask if children 443 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: are in the future for you too? 444 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 445 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I hope so. But I think something we've 446 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: talked about a lot actually about what it means for 447 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: a woman in the industry to have a baby. It's 448 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: not as simple as just taking some time off work. 449 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: For a woman in music theater. I can only speak 450 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: to that because that's just what I know. I would 451 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: assume I wouldn't in my costumes, knowing the show and 452 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: knowing my costumes, I wouldn't be able to work past 453 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: four months pregnant. And then I'm not sure what do 454 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: you do from four months until when the baby's born? 455 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: When you're not able to earn an income and then 456 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: once you've had the baby, there's no job to go 457 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: back to you. I mean, maybe there's a job to 458 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: go back to if you happen to be in a 459 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: long running show and they're willing to bring you back, 460 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: or if you audition while you're pregnant and happen to 461 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: get a job in something that you can go into, 462 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: but that's not always the case. So I feel like 463 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: I need to be willing to not work for a 464 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: year or two, or be okay with not working for 465 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: a year or two, and be prepared for what that 466 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: means for us financially. And then we need to be 467 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: ready to take jobs when they come, not be picky 468 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: and choosy about the jobs that come. So we need 469 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: to be at a point in our careers where we're 470 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: okay to do that for both of us. So I 471 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: think it's a lot more there's a lot more thought 472 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: that has to be put into planning a baby for 473 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: us as actors, I think than maybe the regular person. 474 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: And for things like you know, if Rob has a 475 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: job and I get offered a job and we have 476 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: a baby and we're touring, how does that work? And 477 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, can my mum come with us? Or is 478 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: Rob willing to not work so that I can work 479 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: and vice versa. It's a longer conversation and I think 480 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: it will take some time planning, and I know that 481 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: you can never be ready and all those things, but 482 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: it's something that's been in our proofery for a while. 483 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: It's just working out how to do it. 484 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're really I mean, as you say, if 485 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: you worked in a company, an office job or whatever, 486 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 5: there's there's maternity leave, there's job security, there's everything that, 487 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: but the entertainment industry doesn't have anything like that, including 488 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 5: you know, COVID payments as far as I understand too, 489 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: So it's it's something that I think a lot of 490 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: people don't understand. You know, it looks all this glamorous, rich, 491 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 5: wealthy lifestyle in so many ways, but you know, as 492 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: you were saying too, Rob, behind the scenes is so 493 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: much hard work and just job to job and hanging 494 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: in there. And then hearing you talk about that Chloe, 495 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 5: about you know, how to have a child when there 496 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: isn't that security is it's a it's a much bigger 497 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: discussion for sure. 498 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: And I don't know because I haven't had a baby, 499 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: but I would assume that you don't know how you're 500 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: going to feel after you've had the child. And everyone 501 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: has different berths, And it's not as simple as sitting 502 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: down at a desk or being on the phone. It's 503 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: your you physically, mentally, vocally, every thing. You need to 504 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: be ready to be back on stage or performing again. 505 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: So to actually then get back to work requires work. Yeah, 506 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: and you have to be ready physically to do that 507 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: and be in front of people. So yeah, it's huge. 508 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: This is where you get to jump in the shower together. 509 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: It's our two minute shower. 510 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 6: Been here together. 511 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: We keep our answers a little short because we're into 512 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: water conservation. And so if you both give us your 513 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: answers on this one. What's your best quality communication? 514 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: Probably patients, okay, And so now what is your partner's 515 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 5: best quality? Okay? 516 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Well he stole mine. Yeah, I'm constant kindness despite the 517 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: person's situation or whatever is being thrown at him. I'm always, 518 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: actually still to this day, blown away by Rob's inherent kindness. 519 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm always very impressed, close, very quick, and a very 520 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: accurate judge of character. I think that's a great strength 521 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: of his Who do you admire. 522 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: That's so broad? 523 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 5: Like? 524 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: In what sense that is broad? 525 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: Isn't it? 526 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: You're broad. 527 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: Any any any topic. 528 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 6: I guess whatever you whatever you choose, keep politics out. 529 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: I admire people that are at the top of their fields, 530 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: moving through challenges and doing it anyway, you know, brave, 531 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: brave people that are driven and believe in themselves. I 532 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: admire that, and I aspire to be like that. 533 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I feel like we share this sort 534 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: of admiration of people who, yes, are in positions of 535 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: power and can still show a lot of kindness and 536 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: keep their feet on the ground. 537 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: What does your perfect day look like? 538 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: My perfect day involves exercise, some sort of exercise, so 539 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: I love it. I love yoga, pilates and newly trampoline, rebounding, 540 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: delicious coffee, always, sunshine, ocean, quality time with rob and 541 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: really good music. 542 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: I don't drink coffee, so I don't need coffee my day. 543 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: But I love being in nature, in the nature. I 544 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: love being nature, specifically in the bush. I like being 545 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: surrounded by friends, by family, by my wife, Like God, 546 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: where is this day coming from? Imagined? It'll be here? Yeah? 547 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: In fact, probably our wedding day was probably nearly our 548 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: perfect day. In fact, given that on an Apple Orchid, 549 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: we were surrounded by the most extraordinary combination of our 550 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: friends and family, which you know, had gathered in this 551 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: remote spot, like it was very nearly perfect. 552 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: It's very rare. It's very rare that you get to 553 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: with being a performer, have all your close friends from 554 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: your shows together, because we're always all so spread out. 555 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: So that was really special. 556 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: Finish this sentence. What the world needs now is. 557 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: Take it away back, ladieswith. 558 00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to say connection with each with other humans 559 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: and you and the world in itself, connection to the 560 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: impact you have on other people and the world around you. 561 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a little bit contradictory to that, 562 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: and I'm going to say unplugging. I feel like we 563 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: do need to unplug it then also means yes, connection 564 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: with those around you. I think the twenty four hour 565 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: news cycle, I think social media. I just think it's 566 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: not been great for the collective mental health. And you know, 567 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: whilst there are issues worth worrying about, and you know, 568 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: crises overseas, I feel like there's a lot of angst 569 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 2: and anxiety bound up in worrying so much about issues 570 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: happening thousands of miles away, over things within our control 571 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: and in. 572 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: Our backyard, your partner. 573 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 7: In one word, all speak of once, what's yours? What's 574 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 7: yours for each other? 575 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm curious. 576 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh I hadn't. 577 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 6: Even one's ever asked us that question. I'm going to say, 578 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 6: in one word, Wow, you think. 579 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: About it, I'll tell you Mine for Chloe. So mine 580 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: for Chloe would be fierce. And she's fierce in every 581 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: area of her life. She's so committed to every task 582 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: she puts her mind to. She is a fiercely loyal 583 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: friend to her friends, she's fiercely dedicated to partner, to me. 584 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's that's my one word, all incompassing. 585 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: I find it hard to just some rub up into 586 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: one word. I don't want to like kind feels feels 587 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: wrong but right at the same time, like I don't 588 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: know if it's kind or generous, like a generosity of 589 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: spirit that I have never experienced in anyone else before. 590 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: But that's a lot of words. 591 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 6: So that is a spirit, isn't it. 592 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 4: By the way, Just while you're saying that, kind was 593 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: my word for Allison. 594 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: Oh thanks, I was going to say courageous for you. 595 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 4: There you go, Hey you guys. 596 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I thought of one brave. 597 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: There you go. 598 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: That's a good word too. 599 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 4: Hey you guys, thank you so much for your time, 600 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 4: and I just hope that you are together in person 601 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 4: loving each other up very soon. 602 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: I hope that too. Thank you both, and we look 603 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 5: forward to the entertainment industry rocking again and watching you 604 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: both up on stage as much as possible and having 605 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 5: your your storyboards and your vision boards come. 606 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: To life for reals. 607 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate it. 608 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: I likewise, yeah, thanks guys. 609 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: Bye, thank you. 610 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: I haven't seen either of those two since Hamilton, and 611 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 4: I just got a real pang of like, oh, just 612 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 4: love for them. 613 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the good people. 614 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 5: They are good people, so talented, and I just I know, 615 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 5: I know we've said it and it is, it is 616 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 5: in the news, and I think it can't be said enough. 617 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 5: Is what we're all watching in lockdown is entertainment. We're 618 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 5: watching TV, we're watching reality, we're watching. 619 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: You know, filming of stage musicals. 620 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 5: And it can't be said enough that how decimated the 621 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 5: entertainment industry has been by COVID, and you know, hearing 622 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 5: that first hand from those two was really interesting, and 623 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 5: I think they're making the best of what that is, 624 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 5: and that takes it takes a lot to turn that around, 625 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 5: you know. 626 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, beautifully said, Actually, because we're all hanging as 627 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 4: audience members to be entertained again. And I feel like, 628 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: as you said the other day, I think, like, no 629 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: wonder they're in America making more content because we've basically 630 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 4: drained the well of stuff that was made pre pre COVID, 631 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: And so it's how much we need and rely on 632 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 4: our entertainers. Yeah, and how much you know, you realize 633 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: how much love we love them. 634 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, sitting in an audience, you know, we'll have it again. 635 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 5: It's coming, it's coming. That feeling is spectacular. So it's 636 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 5: just so grateful that the two of them would. 637 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: Come on and open up like that and talk to 638 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: us beautiful. Yeah, so lovely. 639 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: Alrighty, Well, we'll be back next week with another episode 640 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: of Separate Bathrooms. Honey, I will be my courageous self and. 641 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 6: You continue to be. 642 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 4: That was really love asked that question. 643 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: Yes, that was big. I had never thought of it, 644 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 3: so that was took me a bit a back, but yeah, 645 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 3: it was very nice. 646 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 6: To be asked, I love your kindness till next week. 647 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 4: Keep in touch on Instagram. I'm at Cameron Daddo, Ali 648 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: Daddo and we have our separate bathrooms Facebook page as well. 649 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 4: There's other great podcasts happening on nov Podcasts checking out, 650 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 4: grab the player, download them all. 651 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 6: We will catch up with you later