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Speaker 1: Apogee Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle Comments and in this episode, I speak with Megan,

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Speaker 2: a former sex worker who worked in Sydney's most notorious venues.

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Speaker 3: This receptionist that I didn't know, I'd never seen her before.

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Speaker 3: She throws me into a four hour full service booking.

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Speaker 3: What the because I meant to do before Hell, I

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Speaker 3: was fascinated with Vikeis and I started to meet them

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Speaker 3: in Sydney and.

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Speaker 2: Then you found out where the club I was a

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Speaker 2: and then you started hanging around with them.

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Speaker 1: No, they invited me.

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Speaker 3: When I got to Sydney. I was this new little

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Speaker 3: toy and everyone wanted to play with me. This guy

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Speaker 3: messaged me and he's like, oh, do do foot fetish?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, that's fine. And then he

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Speaker 3: goes and I have another thing and I was like

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Speaker 3: yeah what and he's like, I want to watch you

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Speaker 3: step on snails.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Megan, thank you for coming to Sydney from Adelaide.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you for coming down.

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Speaker 2: I'm intrigued to get to know you in the industry

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Speaker 2: because you gave me a list was long of all

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Speaker 2: the venues you've worked out.

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Speaker 4: So I can't wait to get into all this. But

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Speaker 4: first of all, before we start, I.

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Speaker 2: Want to kind of get to know you as a

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Speaker 2: person before he became in the industry. So you know

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Speaker 2: you growing up school and brothers, sisters, family, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll get to know the nitty gritty of you in

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Speaker 2: the industry.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I didn't pay much attention in school because I just

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Speaker 3: didn't really care. I'm not dumb, but I'm just not focused.

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Speaker 3: And then originally from Sydney, no Adelaide, grew up in Adelaide.

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Speaker 2: Hold on the minute, then, so this is before I

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Speaker 2: know that I should ask this later.

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Speaker 4: So you're originally.

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Speaker 2: From Adelaide, Yes, So why the fuck did you come

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Speaker 2: down to working on all these venues?

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Speaker 4: Why don't not just do it in Adelaide?

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Speaker 2: It's illegal, Okay, so he's all come down here to

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Speaker 2: make your money very much. Okay, going back to you

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Speaker 2: growing up, we'll get back to that.

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Speaker 4: What was school I like for her?

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Speaker 1: I just didn't care. I just didn't really bother because

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Speaker 4: Were you a girl girly or you were like a tomboy.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't very good looking when I was in.

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Speaker 4: I'm No.

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Speaker 3: I mean I grew up like I wasn't very good looking.

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Speaker 3: I was a very popular like so I just didn't

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Speaker 3: really care about school. I went when I felt like it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough. I was family though, sisters.

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Speaker 1: Got an older brother. I really talked to him really

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Speaker 4: Is that because of what you were doing or before that?

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Speaker 1: No, just because we've got to be age gap.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so kind of just didn't work out that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we just don't really get along. Mother and father

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Speaker 1: dad's dead. Mom. I get along really good.

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Speaker 4: Mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was supportive even though you were or

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Speaker 2: did she not approve of what you were doing?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she knew one hundred percent?

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Speaker 4: So she doesn't work? Does she? Does she not know? Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Oh fucking hell. So this still be a fucking first

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Speaker 1: No, they all got their suspicions, so yeah, but does

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Speaker 1: she got no proof?

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Speaker 4: Well, fucking they've.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get it now. Thankfully. I don't actually think any

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Speaker 1: of them listen to podcasts, So this will be a first.

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Speaker 1: I don't really care. I live my life how I

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Speaker 1: want to leave my life.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, what's your first job?

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Speaker 1: I worked at Hungry Jacks.

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Speaker 2: I think you're the second girl to say they worked

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Speaker 2: in a fast food chain before they'd be kidding.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I was still in high school. I worke

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Speaker 1: tot hungery Jacks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ever in trouble with the law before you got

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Speaker 1: I had been arrested when I was like fifteen doing

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Speaker 4: I just fighting normal normal shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, nothing interesting.

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Speaker 2: So what led you to the industry.

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Speaker 3: When I was eighteen, I had my first drug dealer boyfriend.

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Speaker 4: That's away then sight away, so I got used.

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Speaker 3: To having everything paid for me, and then we broke

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Speaker 4: And this is an Adelaidea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that lead you to go, I'm going

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Speaker 4: First year you started doing stripping? No, you did the

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Speaker 4: other one first.

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Speaker 2: I've got on my note state you fu So you

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Speaker 2: did the other one first.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's a fucking first.

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Speaker 3: I started off doing massage in Adelaide. Yeah, okay, working

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Speaker 3: or privately in a massage power.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is interesting. So what got you into

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 3: When I broke out with my boyfriend I was broke

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Speaker 3: because he paid for everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I've got no skills.

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Speaker 2: From you've got those skills, but I know how to

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Speaker 2: work my hands something like that.

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Speaker 4: So how many how many days were you doing that?

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Speaker 3: Are?

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Speaker 1: Were like three or four?

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Speaker 4: And it was good money.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't bad.

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Speaker 2: Described to me your first how you you got into

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Speaker 2: and your first night with a client, like doing massage.

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Speaker 1: Can you remember that? That's fucking horrible, was it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Because I was young, I was or maybe nineteen still, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I looked really young. I had not a single

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Speaker 3: tattoo on my body. I was tiny, like I looked

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Speaker 2: But did a friend or someone entice you to do

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Speaker 2: it or did you just go, you know what, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what else to do.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I was watching Underbelly, The King's Cross one.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, and that led you to that that's fuck sorry,

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Speaker 2: sorry about that? Oh my god. Yeah, and you just thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this seems like a good idea.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But okay, So the first client that you got in

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Speaker 2: the feeling was gone through your head knowing that one,

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Speaker 2: you're not attracted this person, well I don't know if

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Speaker 2: But two, how do you get around that if you

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Speaker 1: I was probably the most awkward person.

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Speaker 4: It was just like getting sit down, get out. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was sort of just like, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I'm doing. But the receptionist had told everyone that it's

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Speaker 3: my first day.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so but it's still daunting for something it was

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Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was definitely a lot.

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Speaker 4: So first client half an hour hour? What was it?

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Speaker 1: I think it may have only been half an hour.

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Speaker 4: And that felt like two hours to you.

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Speaker 1: It was horrible. I was like, I just want to

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Speaker 3: How long did you last for? I finished the booking

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But then I like the money I'd made at the

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Speaker 4: So what kind of money you then back then you're

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Speaker 3: I think i'd only made about a grand, but that's

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Speaker 4: In one night?

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Speaker 2: Wow, So I can now see why you would get

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Speaker 2: hooked on doing something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was easy, don't pay tax, cashing your hand

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So how long did you do that for? At

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Speaker 3: There for probably about six months. And then I'd never

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Speaker 3: even been to Sydney before, but through Instagram, I started

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Speaker 3: not another drug dealer, no, no, no, actually it was

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Speaker 3: a BIKEI for sure, and then I just got the idea.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I actually want to move to Sydney,

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Speaker 2: So from working in a massage power for six months,

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Speaker 2: you've got talking to someone and you've just gone bomb

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Speaker 2: names and who what he was, he's enticed you over.

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Speaker 2: Have you gone there to be with him or you've

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Speaker 1: I just liked the idea of coming to Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Okay, where was your first point of place that you

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Speaker 2: went to when you were here?

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Speaker 1: It was this random little one in Bonda Junction because

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Speaker 1: I was living in Bonda Junction.

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Speaker 3: Are we talking massage or we talk on footfall? It

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Speaker 3: was massage and full service in Bondai. I can't even

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Speaker 3: remember what it was called. This was in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, glad, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was like right near the shops. Is what right

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Speaker 1: near the shop field? Yeah? Really? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And it's a it's a brothel massage place. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's still there. This was, yeah,

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Speaker 3: years ago, but I couldn't tell you what that is.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of it.

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Speaker 4: And you just walked in and asked for a job,

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Speaker 4: and no.

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Speaker 3: One of my friends from Adelaide knew the owners of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so they sort of hooked me up with it.

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Speaker 4: Okay. And how long were you there for?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't there for very long. I didn't like it

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Speaker 1: wasn't busy.

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Speaker 2: Enough at that venue. Were you only doing massages or

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Speaker 2: did you? Did you go into full.

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Speaker 3: So I was only doing massage for a little bit,

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Speaker 3: like trying to ease myself into it, and then there.

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Speaker 4: Was yourself into it like that.

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Speaker 3: There was this one day, this receptionist that I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I'd never seen her before. She throws me into a

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Speaker 3: four hour full service booking.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck? Because I meant to do before hours.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very daunting.

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Speaker 4: So that was the first time you've been put into

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Speaker 4: the Yep, how did that go for you?

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Speaker 3: Uncomfortable because I know I had to have sex with

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Speaker 3: the guy and that lasted about five minutes.

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Speaker 1: He just kept jiggling my bum and I was like,

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Speaker 4: This for three hours he jiggled your bum.

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Speaker 3: So I think I was in there for maybe an hour.

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Speaker 2: But that was uncomfortable for you because I was that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember this clearly. The guy was so

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: But then again, you know, how did you feel to

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Speaker 4: Is that how you felt after it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I stayed there for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: How long till you you were okay? You were living

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Speaker 4: Six months?

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Speaker 1: No, probably about two or three.

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Speaker 4: How long was it till you started to get into

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Speaker 1: I never really worked in strip clubs.

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Speaker 3: I worked, actually I worked at Men's Gallery once and

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Speaker 3: it wasn't for you. I got fired for what what reason?

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Speaker 3: I should be in a deckhead? I just thought, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And they said that's it for one night.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were more settled doing massage and full

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Speaker 3: I would rather get naked in a room with one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, now I'm with you. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So where did you move on to after? After BONDI

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Speaker 2: went to Penthouse penthouses on Pistreet. Yeah, yes, how was

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Speaker 1: I made a lot of money there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I also drank a lot when I was there because

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's that was That's another thing. So with

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, you'll put your I can tell

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Speaker 2: that means now you're getting shown drugs and alcohol.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I already knew what that was.

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Speaker 4: Ok Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon you did anyway, but the clientele would

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Speaker 2: now would be would be pushing it with you too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I was getting paid to party and I

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Speaker 4: So tell me about your first night of Penthouse.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I drank so much, you don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember it.

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Speaker 3: I came home with a lot of money, but I

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Speaker 4: Is this part of your life you're going to blur

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Speaker 4: to you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not. I wish you.

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Speaker 4: Did you enjoy it? Did you enjoy it some days? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Definitely. I'm not going to say I hated it.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, tell me a good point about what why

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Speaker 3: Freedom freedom because I picked when I wanted to work.

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Speaker 4: But you couldn't pick who you wanted to sleep with.

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Speaker 3: You could to an extent. You couldn't be too picky

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Speaker 3: because then you'd make no money. But to an extent

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Speaker 3: you could definitely sort of be like, no, I don't

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: How nervous were you when it comes to going full service?

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Speaker 2: Were you confident now working at the Penthouse? Do you

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Speaker 1: With your drinking heaps?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so with you drinking heaps that that was making

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I just didn't really care, because yeah, they

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Speaker 3: just have a full bar there and wherever.

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Speaker 1: They had to drink as much as we want.

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Speaker 4: Really, how how how long were you shifted the Penthouse?

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Speaker 5: And I, oh, I don't even remember, really, jesus, how

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna ask you this question as soon

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Speaker 2: as you get Do you think that you were good

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Speaker 2: going fucked? I'll want to see her again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually had repeat customers.

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Speaker 4: Your regulars that would come in.

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Speaker 2: I asked that because you're saying that you drank a lot,

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Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if you performed.

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Speaker 4: That's why i'm asking.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I probably put on a fucking right.

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Speaker 2: Just asking because I'm just wondering if you if you

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Speaker 2: went on the bed with them, and they should.

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Speaker 3: Now, I definitely would have put on a better performance

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Speaker 3: and being sober.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you preferred to be a bit tipsy when

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Speaker 2: you were working because it then it made you a

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Speaker 2: bit It kind of cleared what you were doing.

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Speaker 1: At the start. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So because you.

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Speaker 2: See, I I've got a lot of stripping, and I

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Speaker 2: thought you were actually doing a bit of strip and

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Speaker 2: you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've done.

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Speaker 3: A bit of topless waitressing. I did a lot more

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Speaker 3: of that than actually working in clubs. There was a

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Speaker 3: private children I did you can't see the pole? Where

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Speaker 3: did you go to next? After pen'shouse.

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Speaker 1: I think I went to Tiffany's, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Tiffany's Soy Hills, Yeah, yes, okay, Now Tiffany's from

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Speaker 2: what I know from girls I've had on here who've

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Speaker 4: It was so.

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Speaker 2: You would you had the same leave way as you

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Speaker 3: I wasn't too bad because so a lot of Asians

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Speaker 3: went in there, and at that time I was a

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Speaker 3: blonde with no tattoos, and they just thought Asians loved me.

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Speaker 1: So I was in out. I barely got to sit down.

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Speaker 4: Busy making money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the spy rooms in there, I would

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Speaker 3: it wasn't too much of an issue. But was there

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Speaker 3: any issues at Tiffany's Now I ended up getting fired.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for what reason?

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Speaker 3: Because so our shifts finished at five in the morning,

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Speaker 3: and by five in the morning, I was exhausted, and

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Speaker 3: I think someone booked me at like five minutes to five,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't want to do this,

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Speaker 3: I need to go home, and they were like that

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Speaker 3: you need to do it.

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Speaker 1: And I did a terrible.

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Speaker 3: Booking and the guy complained, so I got fired and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I told you, I am exhausted, like

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Speaker 3: it's five in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't expect from me? Were you ever at this stage

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Speaker 2: over the industry? Like where were you over to showing

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Speaker 2: the fuck this? Want to go back there?

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Speaker 4: Laid no, you were? You enjoy the money so much?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just the freedom that it gave me, Like

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Speaker 3: I was traveling into state all the time, working just

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Speaker 3: doing whatever I wanted, going wherever I wanted because I

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Speaker 4: So okay, now working at Tiany's.

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Speaker 2: Now, how would you stay in Sydney for and then

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Speaker 2: go back home or would you just now Sydney was

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Speaker 2: your home.

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Speaker 3: I went back home a couple of times, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: more friends, have more of a life. Yeah, So it

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Speaker 3: and you.

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Speaker 4: Were enjoying the nightlife here or you didn't go out.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go out to clubs and you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know what the fuck so you were just full on

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Speaker 2: workaholic making money.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. I was fascinated with bikeis

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Speaker 3: and I started to meet them in Sydney. They still

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Speaker 2: You like the bad Boys? There it comes now? Is

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Speaker 2: there is the true mega now coming out? So you

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Speaker 2: were you like the bad Boys?

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Speaker 1: I think it's studdy issues. But yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: When did you okay, fucking when did you start to

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Speaker 2: get into the scene with the with the with the

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Speaker 2: biking clubs?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: When I was younger from Adelaide?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, so back before you were even doing massages?

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Speaker 4: What the fuck?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: In what way? What are we talking to you? Like?

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Speaker 4: You were dating them?

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Speaker 3: Not really, because I was going out clubbing at like

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Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen. Yeah, and I would just meet them out, okay.

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Speaker 3: Then they'd be like, oh, do you want to come

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Speaker 3: back to the coloss And I'm like, what's that?

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Speaker 1: I know full well what it was.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but you just played dumb, yeah because I

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Speaker 4: wanted to go.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know what to yell. So okay, we're

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Speaker 2: getting into this one. So what was going on at

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Speaker 1: I don't know I don't know.

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Speaker 4: So were you Were you stripping for them?

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Speaker 1: No? I was just hanging out partying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But was it getting were you we? Did you

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Speaker 2: start to date with some of them or or was

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Speaker 2: it just you were just coming there as a party

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Speaker 2: with the whole crew.

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Speaker 1: I definitely slept with a fucking hell.

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Speaker 2: Was it just the the one biking club or you

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Speaker 2: go to different bikey clubes?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Even even that's Mack just tells me there's what

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Speaker 4: he founds for that one. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then you've come to Sydney and then you've tried,

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Speaker 2: and then you've got in touch with or you've got to.

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Speaker 1: Know, Well, there was a couple that I'd met in

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Speaker 1: Adelaide from Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then you found out where the club I

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Speaker 4: Of course they did.

454
00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was like when I got to Sydney, I

455
00:18:26,041 --> 00:18:27,881
Speaker 3: was this new little toy and everyone wanted to play

456
00:18:27,921 --> 00:18:28,120
Speaker 3: with me.

457
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,321
Speaker 4: That's some way of putting it.

458
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,360
Speaker 2: That one you were some little toy and they all

459
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:42,001
Speaker 2: wanted to play with you. Well that's a good way.

460
00:18:43,001 --> 00:18:46,761
Speaker 1: I'm not making myself very good here, Okay.

461
00:18:46,801 --> 00:18:50,361
Speaker 2: So this would start happening before the penthouse. Yes, wow,

462
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,881
Speaker 2: So when you were at BONDI.

463
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 1: I think so.

464
00:18:53,921 --> 00:18:56,400
Speaker 2: So you did, can I I'll put it right? Then

465
00:18:56,521 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 2: you had a fascination for.

466
00:18:59,441 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 4: What is it? What's the fascination?

467
00:19:00,721 --> 00:19:02,601
Speaker 1: I have no idea, You have.

468
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,841
Speaker 4: No idea what the fascination is in the head? Is it?

469
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 3: That?

470
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,161
Speaker 4: Is it? The power? Is it? Well? How they look?

471
00:19:09,241 --> 00:19:11,681
Speaker 4: Is it? The tats? Is it? Is it? The the jackets?

472
00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:13,801
Speaker 1: What's a bit of everything you just said?

473
00:19:14,281 --> 00:19:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

474
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,801
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I don't know.

475
00:19:17,961 --> 00:19:25,321
Speaker 2: Have you dated one, like, okay, have you ever been

476
00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 2: in a situation where one you've just gone okay ship?

477
00:19:29,041 --> 00:19:29,441
Speaker 1: Yeah?

478
00:19:29,521 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it's gone, it's escalated? Oh yeah, have

479
00:19:34,001 --> 00:19:34,801
Speaker 4: you got yourself out of it?

480
00:19:36,041 --> 00:19:38,761
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know. I really don't know.

481
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 4: Have you ever been scared in the situation? Okay?

482
00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 2: So have you ever been into a into a situation

483
00:19:45,921 --> 00:19:48,041
Speaker 2: where you've gone back to the clubhouse, You've got into

484
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,321
Speaker 2: a situation? I never then know you've been safe there? Yeah,

485
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,521
Speaker 2: you've always been so you've always you've always felt safe

486
00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:55,161
Speaker 2: when you've gone there.

487
00:19:55,201 --> 00:19:59,041
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been with anyone that it's made you feel

488
00:20:00,481 --> 00:20:01,361
Speaker 3: it's always been good.

489
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: Never, You've already been.

490
00:20:02,761 --> 00:20:05,801
Speaker 2: In situations when you've been working at the at the

491
00:20:05,801 --> 00:20:09,841
Speaker 2: brothels that where you felt uncomfortable. Yeah, what about when

492
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,961
Speaker 2: you used to go for our calls? I never really

493
00:20:12,961 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: did our calls because I didn't like it.

494
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,801
Speaker 4: Okay, done one before.

495
00:20:17,761 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 3: I've done them before, and thankfully nothing about it has happened.

496
00:20:20,681 --> 00:20:23,281
Speaker 3: But I just don't like them, Okay, like it would

497
00:20:23,281 --> 00:20:25,161
Speaker 3: just always make they just a thought of it would

498
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,321
Speaker 3: make me feel uncomfortable.

499
00:20:26,521 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: Okay, tell me about a situation where you felt uncomfortable

500
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,801
Speaker 2: when they've come to you know, the venue where you've

501
00:20:32,801 --> 00:20:33,201
Speaker 2: worked at.

502
00:20:33,521 --> 00:20:36,121
Speaker 1: Oh never, not with them, No, no, not.

503
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,801
Speaker 2: With a biking no, no clients. Well, where's there been

504
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,281
Speaker 2: a situation where you've gone you know this is I

505
00:20:42,321 --> 00:20:44,081
Speaker 2: can't do this, or you've made me feel.

506
00:20:43,961 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 4: Uncomfortable, or you're like this.

507
00:20:47,801 --> 00:20:48,801
Speaker 1: I was in per.

508
00:20:48,921 --> 00:20:51,681
Speaker 4: Okay, We've gone from cities and prayer of fights.

509
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: So this guy was clearly off his dial. He was

510
00:20:55,801 --> 00:20:56,641
Speaker 1: sweat and bullets.

511
00:20:56,681 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: He was disgusting, and he's like, I want to see you,

512
00:20:59,241 --> 00:21:02,201
Speaker 3: and yeah, all right, we get in the room.

513
00:21:02,201 --> 00:21:03,561
Speaker 1: I was like, have a shower or whatever.

514
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 6: He gets out of the show, he gets out of

515
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 6: the shower, he puts his TNS back on in his sunglasses,

516
00:21:09,681 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 6: so he's fully naked with tears and sunglasses, and he

517
00:21:14,801 --> 00:21:19,241
Speaker 6: goes right, He goes right, You're gonna sit there and

518
00:21:19,281 --> 00:21:20,241
Speaker 6: I'm going to smoke a pipe.

519
00:21:20,281 --> 00:21:21,561
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, that's not going to happen.

520
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,201
Speaker 3: I'm going to step out of the room for ten minutes.

521
00:21:23,201 --> 00:21:25,321
Speaker 3: You can smoke your fucking heart out, and then I'll

522
00:21:25,321 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: come back. This man proceeded to argue with me for

523
00:21:27,761 --> 00:21:30,321
Speaker 3: about twenty minutes. Mind you, he's butt naked with Sonny's

524
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: and tms on. Yeah, he's arguing with me. And I'm mate,

525
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 3: in the time that you've spent arguing with me, you

526
00:21:37,561 --> 00:21:40,321
Speaker 3: could have smoked your heart out. I could have been gone,

527
00:21:40,481 --> 00:21:43,281
Speaker 3: come back in and everything would have been fine. I said,

528
00:21:43,281 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 3: but now you have to leave because you're pissing me off.

529
00:21:46,241 --> 00:21:47,001
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

530
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,801
Speaker 1: So when I got the receptionist and he was gone.

531
00:21:50,041 --> 00:21:52,321
Speaker 4: So he's rather smoke a pipe than do anything.

532
00:21:52,681 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: He'd rather argue with me, apparently fucking now.

533
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,721
Speaker 3: But it was just so funny because and I said

534
00:21:58,761 --> 00:21:59,961
Speaker 3: to him, I was like, look, I'm not going to

535
00:22:00,001 --> 00:22:01,961
Speaker 3: stand here and argue with the naked man in tears

536
00:22:01,961 --> 00:22:02,721
Speaker 3: and sunglasses?

537
00:22:02,801 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 1: Fuck off?

538
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,041
Speaker 4: Okay?

539
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,761
Speaker 2: Have you have you ever been in a situation where

540
00:22:08,801 --> 00:22:10,801
Speaker 2: you felt your life's threatened?

541
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:15,401
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh you have? What venue was that?

542
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,361
Speaker 1: That wasn't a venue privately? That was ye doing topless wage?

543
00:22:19,481 --> 00:22:23,401
Speaker 4: Think that was done? So that's an altcol for the toplessuasion?

544
00:22:23,521 --> 00:22:23,921
Speaker 1: Yeah?

545
00:22:24,001 --> 00:22:25,521
Speaker 4: How many girls were? There were?

546
00:22:26,521 --> 00:22:28,121
Speaker 1: Or five girls? But I didn't know any of them?

547
00:22:28,761 --> 00:22:31,241
Speaker 4: And did they know what was happening with you? Or didn't? Yeah?

548
00:22:31,281 --> 00:22:32,001
Speaker 1: They're not all knew?

549
00:22:32,801 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: Did they help or I didn't think so they watched

550
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: you get assaulted?

551
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 4: What was the outcore for? Was a birthday party? Books night?

552
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,601
Speaker 4: What was it?

553
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

554
00:22:44,281 --> 00:22:47,161
Speaker 1: It's just a party? Sydney, no Adelaide?

555
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,481
Speaker 2: Okay, so how okay? So how long into into you

556
00:22:50,561 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: that this happened? Did you come back from Sydney to

557
00:22:52,441 --> 00:22:53,681
Speaker 2: go back to Adelaide last year?

558
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: Last year? Wow? So what the group was for? Just

559
00:22:59,521 --> 00:23:00,601
Speaker 4: a party? How many men?

560
00:23:01,201 --> 00:23:04,521
Speaker 1: Peeps? I'm not even sure how many.

561
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,681
Speaker 4: At a private you? Okay? Tell me how it escalated?

562
00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't even really know, to be honest.

563
00:23:11,761 --> 00:23:12,801
Speaker 4: Why did they pick on you?

564
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,081
Speaker 3: All the girls sort of banded together, they all knew

565
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: each other I didn't know any of them.

566
00:23:17,041 --> 00:23:19,801
Speaker 4: So you're kind of working alone? Yeah, okay?

567
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,041
Speaker 2: And how did they escalate to you to get to

568
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:23,001
Speaker 2: how it got to you?

569
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,561
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't even know and know what happened so fast?

570
00:23:26,561 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: And I obviously got hit in the head of a

571
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,801
Speaker 3: couple of times. But why why would they hit like?

572
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,681
Speaker 2: Why why would they Why did they want to set

573
00:23:32,761 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: upon the girls who come there to do private shows?

574
00:23:35,921 --> 00:23:37,681
Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea.

575
00:23:38,441 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: So when when you when you've been assaulted, where were

576
00:23:40,921 --> 00:23:45,521
Speaker 2: the other girls doing their job? And who actually helped

577
00:23:45,521 --> 00:23:46,041
Speaker 2: you in the end?

578
00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:49,801
Speaker 1: No one? How did you get out of there? I

579
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,961
Speaker 1: was actually allowed to leave.

580
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 4: You just left.

581
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,721
Speaker 2: No no guide from that party reached out and helped

582
00:23:56,801 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: or tried to stop it or you can't remember if

583
00:23:59,001 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: they didn't, they didn't.

584
00:24:00,561 --> 00:24:02,961
Speaker 4: No one, no one, and no girl. No.

585
00:24:03,721 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: So who who organized that for you to be there

586
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: that night? Was it an agent? Did they know what happened?

587
00:24:10,521 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 3: No?

588
00:24:10,681 --> 00:24:14,721
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything, so you kept it quiet of.

589
00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: Who was this?

590
00:24:16,241 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: Was this a party that you didn't want to say

591
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,961
Speaker 2: anything to it? Or you did you know who these

592
00:24:20,961 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: people were and that's why you were scared? No?

593
00:24:22,721 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know them. I was just that could happen

594
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: to me. I was scared.

595
00:24:27,001 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 4: So no one was brought in about it. No cops

596
00:24:29,961 --> 00:24:30,801
Speaker 4: were brought in about it.

597
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, someone called the cops because they came to

598
00:24:32,681 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: my house.

599
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,561
Speaker 3: Okay, but thankfully it was a couple of weeks after

600
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: so I'd healed, like I had no bruises or anything,

601
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 3: and I just told them to fuck off.

602
00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:40,761
Speaker 4: But nothing was done about it.

603
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: No, why would you let something like that go for like, like,

604
00:24:45,441 --> 00:24:49,041
Speaker 2: I know you're saying you were scared, but they've assaulted you.

605
00:24:49,041 --> 00:24:51,041
Speaker 2: You don't know how many how many men would have

606
00:24:51,041 --> 00:24:54,001
Speaker 2: assaulted you. You've gone there to do a job and

607
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,641
Speaker 2: you've ended up assaulted. None of the other girls were

608
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: Why would you let that just drop? I was brought

609
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: up that you don't talk to police. I understand that

610
00:25:01,801 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: because other ways of sorting things out, like you can

611
00:25:04,721 --> 00:25:06,681
Speaker 2: also get people that you know to help.

612
00:25:06,521 --> 00:25:07,201
Speaker 4: You sort that out.

613
00:25:07,441 --> 00:25:08,321
Speaker 1: I just didn't want it.

614
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,041
Speaker 2: I just you've been a soldier, you've you've got broken

615
00:25:11,281 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: cheek or you know what I mean, what would the

616
00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: why the fuck wouldn't you I don't know.

617
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,201
Speaker 4: I just no man should touch a woman.

618
00:25:17,561 --> 00:25:18,641
Speaker 1: Oh no, definitely not.

619
00:25:18,921 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 2: So then why would you let that man and the

620
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,041
Speaker 2: old men get away with touching a woman? That's that's

621
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,481
Speaker 2: to me. I don't care what whatever it is. There's

622
00:25:25,521 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: no way in the world a man should touch a woman.

623
00:25:28,321 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, I definitely agree with you there. I don't know.

624
00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,801
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was easier to leave it.

625
00:25:33,961 --> 00:25:34,401
Speaker 4: Wow.

626
00:25:35,241 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 2: Have you ever come across that them persons? And I haven't,

627
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,281
Speaker 2: so you wouldn't know who it was or nothing like that.

628
00:25:40,481 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: I know who was.

629
00:25:43,201 --> 00:25:46,281
Speaker 4: Wow. Okay did that make you want to stop?

630
00:25:46,961 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: That made me completely stop?

631
00:25:48,961 --> 00:25:51,161
Speaker 2: That made you completely stop? So when are we talking

632
00:25:51,241 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: last year? Were talking like twenty twenty five? Yeah, and

633
00:25:54,201 --> 00:25:56,321
Speaker 2: then you just said that it I fucking had enough. Yeah.

634
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,441
Speaker 3: I mean i'd pretty well stopped. I just randomly every

635
00:25:59,481 --> 00:26:00,921
Speaker 3: now and again down again.

636
00:26:01,001 --> 00:26:01,641
Speaker 1: Yeah.

637
00:26:01,681 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: So you're mostly just doing topless waitressing and you were

638
00:26:04,281 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: out of the full service.

639
00:26:06,321 --> 00:26:09,041
Speaker 4: Okay. Fucking hell. And that's happened in your hometown too,

640
00:26:10,321 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: like of all the cities really liked me there really

641
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: fucking hell.

642
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,921
Speaker 3: When I was younger, I used to be absolute terror

643
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: that one.

644
00:26:21,281 --> 00:26:21,681
Speaker 4: Yeah.

645
00:26:21,801 --> 00:26:26,521
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, still doesn't give the definitely not no way.

646
00:26:27,201 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: How did you feel after it.

647
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,801
Speaker 2: I was even going through your head when you left

648
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: that door, and then you know, you said you were

649
00:26:32,481 --> 00:26:33,081
Speaker 2: allowed to leave.

650
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:33,881
Speaker 4: What was going for your head?

651
00:26:33,961 --> 00:26:35,721
Speaker 1: I was just sort of did that just happen?

652
00:26:36,481 --> 00:26:37,041
Speaker 4: Were you crying?

653
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: Well your Yeah, I was crying. I cried, but my

654
00:26:40,321 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: eye was swollen shut.

655
00:26:44,201 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: Did you tell anybody? Yeah? And what did they say?

656
00:26:48,761 --> 00:26:50,321
Speaker 1: They asked me what I want to done about? And

657
00:26:50,321 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: I said nothing?

658
00:26:51,521 --> 00:26:52,561
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

659
00:26:53,561 --> 00:26:56,841
Speaker 2: So that that totally turned your life upside down. And

660
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: you just want to without getting into what you what

661
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: job you do now, because that's personal.

662
00:27:01,521 --> 00:27:03,041
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really want to get into that one.

663
00:27:03,441 --> 00:27:04,521
Speaker 4: Were you already doing that?

664
00:27:04,801 --> 00:27:05,441
Speaker 1: Yeah?

665
00:27:05,561 --> 00:27:07,401
Speaker 4: Okay? So how long have you been doing that? For?

666
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Three years?

667
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: Wow?

668
00:27:08,921 --> 00:27:11,721
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's the most scariest moments you've had in

669
00:27:12,001 --> 00:27:12,561
Speaker 2: all your career?

670
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: Do in that?

671
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,921
Speaker 2: Everything else is been virtually fine with you. You've come

672
00:27:17,921 --> 00:27:19,961
Speaker 2: across not not many obstacles like.

673
00:27:19,921 --> 00:27:21,481
Speaker 1: That, No, not really.

674
00:27:21,561 --> 00:27:23,761
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because I've got a bad

675
00:27:23,801 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: attitude and I'm not the nicest of people that like.

676
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,241
Speaker 2: So I look at you and I think you could

677
00:27:28,241 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: look after yourself if you need, you know what I mean.

678
00:27:31,801 --> 00:27:33,761
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you look scary, but you look

679
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: like you know, like if you, if you, if you,

680
00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:37,961
Speaker 2: if someone fucked with you, a client fucked with you,

681
00:27:37,761 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: you're you're not going to let it happen.

682
00:27:39,921 --> 00:27:40,921
Speaker 1: No, no, definitely not.

683
00:27:41,001 --> 00:27:43,801
Speaker 2: But I think whatever's happened on that night you were

684
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: off God.

685
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:47,681
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's.

686
00:27:47,561 --> 00:27:51,521
Speaker 2: Let's get back into some fun stuff about your industry,

687
00:27:52,281 --> 00:27:54,961
Speaker 2: all right, So tell me tell me about the weirdest

688
00:27:55,321 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: that client has asked for.

689
00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:01,321
Speaker 4: Like I'll before we get into.

690
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: This, I'm going to ask you a question that I

691
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,841
Speaker 2: ask and I think all my views now have got

692
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,841
Speaker 2: to got used to this now. Every time I have

693
00:28:08,001 --> 00:28:10,961
Speaker 2: someone from your industry in my studio. And I don't

694
00:28:11,001 --> 00:28:14,361
Speaker 2: know if you've heard on my podcast before, but you

695
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: guys like to be fisted.

696
00:28:17,321 --> 00:28:20,961
Speaker 4: Now, I want to know. I want to know face

697
00:28:21,001 --> 00:28:24,201
Speaker 4: to face. Have you been fisted before me? Yes? Okay,

698
00:28:24,201 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: that's good. Have you fisted anybody? Oh my fucking god? Really?

699
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: How many clients have you fisted? Couple? What the fuck?

700
00:28:34,201 --> 00:28:34,521
Speaker 4: All right?

701
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: Talk me through this, Talk me through this, because I

702
00:28:37,481 --> 00:28:41,921
Speaker 2: do not understand what kind of fucking guy would like

703
00:28:42,001 --> 00:28:44,081
Speaker 2: to be fisted up the fucking ass?

704
00:28:44,961 --> 00:28:46,841
Speaker 4: What is it? What is it? What what type of

705
00:28:46,841 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: clients is it?

706
00:28:47,561 --> 00:28:49,761
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's the ones that you would not expect.

707
00:28:50,161 --> 00:28:52,841
Speaker 4: Really we're talking big or puny or what are we

708
00:28:52,841 --> 00:28:53,321
Speaker 4: talking here?

709
00:28:53,641 --> 00:28:56,641
Speaker 1: Just you wouldn't expect. I don't know. They come in

710
00:28:56,681 --> 00:28:57,921
Speaker 1: all shapes and sizes, to be.

711
00:28:57,841 --> 00:28:59,121
Speaker 2: Fair, and what do they ask for? So when they

712
00:28:59,161 --> 00:29:01,601
Speaker 2: come into the room, how's he put.

713
00:29:01,401 --> 00:29:01,641
Speaker 4: It to you?

714
00:29:01,961 --> 00:29:02,841
Speaker 1: Straight to ask for it?

715
00:29:03,121 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: What? Don't worry about the sextus fishing of the art off?

716
00:29:08,281 --> 00:29:09,321
Speaker 4: What the hell? That was?

717
00:29:09,401 --> 00:29:09,921
Speaker 1: Just straight off?

718
00:29:10,001 --> 00:29:10,361
Speaker 4: How long?

719
00:29:10,401 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: For?

720
00:29:10,601 --> 00:29:11,881
Speaker 4: How long for? Will it last?

721
00:29:11,961 --> 00:29:13,801
Speaker 1: For? However long they wanted to?

722
00:29:13,881 --> 00:29:17,761
Speaker 4: I guess they they yelping, what the Fo's going on?

723
00:29:17,841 --> 00:29:19,801
Speaker 1: I love it? What? What?

724
00:29:20,481 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: How can you love getting fisted up your horsemen?

725
00:29:23,361 --> 00:29:24,681
Speaker 1: Honestly, I've got no idea.

726
00:29:25,441 --> 00:29:27,801
Speaker 4: Okay, anything else weird?

727
00:29:28,521 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what?

728
00:29:30,641 --> 00:29:31,841
Speaker 4: It can't be anything weirder than that.

729
00:29:32,761 --> 00:29:36,921
Speaker 3: So I was working privately out of a hotel and

730
00:29:36,961 --> 00:29:38,921
Speaker 3: this guy messaged me and he's like, oh, do you

731
00:29:38,961 --> 00:29:40,721
Speaker 3: do foot fetish? And I was like, yeah, that's fine,

732
00:29:41,161 --> 00:29:42,761
Speaker 3: and then he's like, no, it's a little bit weirder

733
00:29:42,761 --> 00:29:44,361
Speaker 3: than that. And I was like, yeah, all right, just

734
00:29:44,401 --> 00:29:47,401
Speaker 3: come through and we can discuss it. Like it's all good. Anyway,

735
00:29:47,441 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: he gets there and he's like, so, yeah, I have

736
00:29:49,761 --> 00:29:51,241
Speaker 3: a thing for feet. He's I want you to stand

737
00:29:51,281 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: on my face whatever. I was like, yeah, that's easy.

738
00:29:53,201 --> 00:29:54,841
Speaker 3: And then he goes and I have another thing and

739
00:29:54,881 --> 00:29:59,241
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, what, And he's like, I want

740
00:29:59,241 --> 00:30:01,321
Speaker 3: to watch you step on snails.

741
00:30:02,041 --> 00:30:05,241
Speaker 1: Say again, I want to watch you step on snow

742
00:30:05,361 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: live snails.

743
00:30:06,041 --> 00:30:09,801
Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm going to get them for well.

744
00:30:12,481 --> 00:30:14,281
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I don't actually have an access

745
00:30:14,281 --> 00:30:16,281
Speaker 3: to any snails right now, and he's like, I.

746
00:30:16,241 --> 00:30:18,361
Speaker 1: Do, pulls out a sandwich bag for snail.

747
00:30:19,561 --> 00:30:21,681
Speaker 2: He's come to the fucking to your hotel room with

748
00:30:21,761 --> 00:30:24,041
Speaker 2: snails and he just wants to watch.

749
00:30:23,841 --> 00:30:28,681
Speaker 3: You stand on himself winks himself. Tell me how that

750
00:30:28,761 --> 00:30:32,841
Speaker 3: felt disgusting? So you're standing on sails.

751
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I had shoes on.

752
00:30:33,801 --> 00:30:34,841
Speaker 4: Thank god you had shoes on.

753
00:30:34,961 --> 00:30:36,601
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't doing it without shoes.

754
00:30:36,641 --> 00:30:40,841
Speaker 4: And he's tossing off. How does that? I don't know.

755
00:30:40,921 --> 00:30:43,761
Speaker 1: I don't know how that does it for someone, but

756
00:30:43,801 --> 00:30:44,601
Speaker 1: apparently it did.

757
00:30:45,441 --> 00:30:49,441
Speaker 4: Well, that's going to be out there, that one, all right? Anymore.

758
00:30:49,641 --> 00:30:51,281
Speaker 1: I've got a funny one from when I was working

759
00:30:51,321 --> 00:30:52,401
Speaker 1: at Mysti's.

760
00:30:52,521 --> 00:30:56,841
Speaker 3: Tell me about I didn't usually do out calls, and

761
00:30:56,841 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: she knew that I didn't. But anyway, one night, she's like, Bro,

762
00:31:00,281 --> 00:31:04,161
Speaker 3: are this guy's whatever? Go to him that he's good,

763
00:31:04,201 --> 00:31:07,161
Speaker 3: this and that, and I was like whatever, So I went.

764
00:31:07,441 --> 00:31:09,241
Speaker 3: I get there. This guy seemed quite normal. He was

765
00:31:09,281 --> 00:31:14,681
Speaker 3: on house arrest, though, but he seems even quite normal,

766
00:31:14,721 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: so I was like, all right, this might be all right. Anyway,

767
00:31:16,761 --> 00:31:19,361
Speaker 3: I got stuck there for eight hours. This guy was

768
00:31:19,401 --> 00:31:23,881
Speaker 3: so coked off, so off his head. I watched him

769
00:31:23,881 --> 00:31:26,361
Speaker 3: for eight hours just walk in and out of every

770
00:31:26,681 --> 00:31:28,961
Speaker 3: room in his house and just turn the lights on

771
00:31:29,001 --> 00:31:31,121
Speaker 3: and off. Sid walk in one room, flick it on,

772
00:31:31,721 --> 00:31:34,241
Speaker 3: flick it off, shuffle over to the next room, flick

773
00:31:34,281 --> 00:31:36,481
Speaker 3: it on, flick it off, around the whole house.

774
00:31:36,521 --> 00:31:36,761
Speaker 1: I hid.

775
00:31:36,801 --> 00:31:39,441
Speaker 3: This continued all night, apart from every now and again

776
00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:41,001
Speaker 3: he'd come back in the bedroom to tell me I'm

777
00:31:41,001 --> 00:31:43,881
Speaker 3: so hot and he's having a great time, and he

778
00:31:43,921 --> 00:31:44,761
Speaker 3: would go back.

779
00:31:44,641 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: To flicking the lives.

780
00:31:46,321 --> 00:31:48,801
Speaker 4: That's for eight hours, eight hours.

781
00:31:50,041 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: How do you keep okay for eight hours when someone's

782
00:31:52,521 --> 00:31:54,001
Speaker 2: like that off their fucking chops?

783
00:31:54,241 --> 00:31:56,001
Speaker 4: How the fuck do you entertain yourself?

784
00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:57,881
Speaker 1: I just ended up getting cooked to waste time.

785
00:31:58,761 --> 00:32:03,321
Speaker 4: Fucking help Jesus are you? Are you all?

786
00:32:04,241 --> 00:32:06,121
Speaker 2: Because I know you you're there to make money and

787
00:32:06,201 --> 00:32:07,921
Speaker 2: you don't care what they do for that eight houses

788
00:32:07,961 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: you're getting paid for it.

789
00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:09,201
Speaker 4: Yeah.

790
00:32:09,521 --> 00:32:11,841
Speaker 1: I sat there on my phone. I sat there on

791
00:32:11,881 --> 00:32:12,521
Speaker 1: my phone.

792
00:32:12,281 --> 00:32:15,841
Speaker 2: Really because I know some girls in the industry that

793
00:32:15,881 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: they love the sex and that that's why you know

794
00:32:17,441 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: they're in the industry to do that. But you on

795
00:32:19,761 --> 00:32:21,481
Speaker 2: your case, you can care less, Like it's like I've

796
00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:22,361
Speaker 2: got I could give a.

797
00:32:22,281 --> 00:32:24,481
Speaker 1: Fuck if they weren't having sexist me. That was the

798
00:32:24,521 --> 00:32:25,521
Speaker 1: best booking ever.

799
00:32:27,121 --> 00:32:31,161
Speaker 4: Fu. Yeah, Now, how much would you charge an hour.

800
00:32:31,081 --> 00:32:33,361
Speaker 1: When I was working privately? Yeah, five hundred hour.

801
00:32:33,921 --> 00:32:37,041
Speaker 3: But this was also years ago, and that was about

802
00:32:37,601 --> 00:32:40,921
Speaker 3: the like normal private Right now, it's obviously a lot

803
00:32:40,921 --> 00:32:41,721
Speaker 3: more in this economy.

804
00:32:41,761 --> 00:32:44,561
Speaker 4: I think, what's the best venue? You worked at?

805
00:32:45,001 --> 00:32:48,001
Speaker 3: Stilettos are by far like the nicest, But I just

806
00:32:48,081 --> 00:32:48,721
Speaker 3: wasn't there long.

807
00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:50,761
Speaker 2: And what do you mean by the nicest, like the

808
00:32:50,841 --> 00:32:53,041
Speaker 2: venues nicest or the way the managements are.

809
00:32:53,001 --> 00:32:56,361
Speaker 3: Or the venues the nist for sure, Yeah, and the

810
00:32:56,361 --> 00:32:58,001
Speaker 3: way that they run things, like when you would leave

811
00:32:58,001 --> 00:32:59,721
Speaker 3: a booking, they have clean and sit coming and clean

812
00:32:59,761 --> 00:33:01,081
Speaker 3: your whole room. Like, you don't do that, You just

813
00:33:01,161 --> 00:33:03,401
Speaker 3: leave it how it is. Someone else picks up everything

814
00:33:03,441 --> 00:33:06,401
Speaker 3: after you. They paid the highest and yeah, the venue

815
00:33:06,481 --> 00:33:07,121
Speaker 3: was just beautiful.

816
00:33:07,241 --> 00:33:08,041
Speaker 4: Why didn't you stay there?

817
00:33:08,081 --> 00:33:08,161
Speaker 2: One?

818
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:11,801
Speaker 3: I couldn't work there any longer because I had tattoos

819
00:33:11,801 --> 00:33:13,561
Speaker 3: and at that time they didn't like tattoos.

820
00:33:13,761 --> 00:33:17,121
Speaker 4: Oh really Yeah, so no girls there had tattoos, or

821
00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:17,521
Speaker 4: if they.

822
00:33:17,441 --> 00:33:19,681
Speaker 1: Did, they were just small ones that could be easily hidden.

823
00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:22,481
Speaker 4: So they had a policy back then for no tattoos.

824
00:33:22,561 --> 00:33:25,241
Speaker 3: Yeah, and at the time, I had like a couple

825
00:33:25,281 --> 00:33:27,521
Speaker 3: of little ones on my stomach. I didn't have my

826
00:33:27,641 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: arms or my legs or anything done, and I had

827
00:33:29,241 --> 00:33:31,361
Speaker 3: my whole back done, so I had to put my

828
00:33:31,441 --> 00:33:33,561
Speaker 3: hair over my back so it couldn't be seen.

829
00:33:33,921 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: What was the reason for that? On that policy with it?

830
00:33:36,081 --> 00:33:38,681
Speaker 3: That wanted it to be a classy establishment, and I

831
00:33:38,761 --> 00:33:42,961
Speaker 3: was like every drug dealer, everybody, every everyone goes in there.

832
00:33:43,081 --> 00:33:44,921
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing glassy about it.

833
00:33:45,601 --> 00:33:46,161
Speaker 4: Wow.

834
00:33:46,761 --> 00:33:48,881
Speaker 2: Okay, So so that you reckon that was better than

835
00:33:48,921 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: some of like Tiffany's, because that's got because Tiffany's got

836
00:33:51,521 --> 00:33:52,761
Speaker 2: a good name, like it's it's well known.

837
00:33:52,881 --> 00:33:55,001
Speaker 1: Tiffany's was beautiful, especially their spar rooms.

838
00:33:55,001 --> 00:33:57,201
Speaker 3: They were great. Yeah, Like I actually loved working there.

839
00:33:57,521 --> 00:33:59,161
Speaker 3: I made a lot a lot of money there.

840
00:33:59,321 --> 00:34:00,081
Speaker 4: Yeah.

841
00:34:00,161 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: But in terms of like I liked Hostilettos had cleaners

842
00:34:04,041 --> 00:34:06,001
Speaker 3: that come in after use, so you like, you don't

843
00:34:06,001 --> 00:34:07,481
Speaker 3: have to worry at the end of a booking about

844
00:34:07,601 --> 00:34:09,521
Speaker 3: you're making the bed and cleaning everything up. You just

845
00:34:09,601 --> 00:34:11,241
Speaker 3: leave it where it is, walk your client out and

846
00:34:11,281 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: go and they come in and do it all. Like.

847
00:34:13,001 --> 00:34:15,201
Speaker 3: I liked that because that's like a little less pressure

848
00:34:15,241 --> 00:34:16,961
Speaker 3: off us to make sure everything's perfect.

849
00:34:17,521 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: You ever have a client who's come in in New Year? Yeah?

850
00:34:21,401 --> 00:34:25,601
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many awkward The first time it ever happened, yeah,

851
00:34:25,601 --> 00:34:28,201
Speaker 3: I was so uncomfortable, like, oh my god. But then

852
00:34:28,681 --> 00:34:31,801
Speaker 3: I started to not really care, and I realized that

853
00:34:31,801 --> 00:34:34,961
Speaker 3: they're more awkward of me seeing them. So I started

854
00:34:34,961 --> 00:34:36,401
Speaker 3: to play on that and I'd see them on see

855
00:34:36,401 --> 00:34:37,681
Speaker 3: people on the cameras and I go in there.

856
00:34:37,681 --> 00:34:41,001
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing? And they're like, oh what.

857
00:34:43,321 --> 00:34:46,081
Speaker 4: You ever fell for a client? Yeah?

858
00:34:46,241 --> 00:34:47,801
Speaker 2: How many times you have felt for a climb? I reckon,

859
00:34:47,841 --> 00:34:49,241
Speaker 2: you fell a couple of time for a clients?

860
00:34:50,161 --> 00:34:50,361
Speaker 6: You have?

861
00:34:51,401 --> 00:34:54,361
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a couple. There's definitely been a.

862
00:34:54,361 --> 00:34:56,441
Speaker 4: Couple of how long has that lasted? Fun?

863
00:34:57,041 --> 00:34:58,081
Speaker 1: I never last for long.

864
00:34:58,561 --> 00:35:01,521
Speaker 2: No, you just see that they become regulars and then

865
00:35:01,561 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: you see them and then all.

866
00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:05,561
Speaker 3: Of a sudden, my dumb as in seeing I'm outside

867
00:35:05,601 --> 00:35:07,401
Speaker 3: of work, like because I want to.

868
00:35:07,841 --> 00:35:09,881
Speaker 4: Yeah, but why isn't it least then?

869
00:35:10,681 --> 00:35:12,601
Speaker 1: Because my tasted man is terrible?

870
00:35:16,441 --> 00:35:20,001
Speaker 2: What was your speciality for clients? What would they come like?

871
00:35:20,681 --> 00:35:21,841
Speaker 2: What's your speciality?

872
00:35:22,361 --> 00:35:23,281
Speaker 1: I don't really have one.

873
00:35:23,521 --> 00:35:25,601
Speaker 3: I'm pretty basic, to be fair, because I like to

874
00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:27,721
Speaker 3: say things that I like for my own personal life.

875
00:35:28,601 --> 00:35:29,561
Speaker 1: So I just give a basis.

876
00:35:29,601 --> 00:35:31,241
Speaker 2: Is that hard for you if if you're if you're

877
00:35:31,361 --> 00:35:33,121
Speaker 2: dating someone and you're doing this work and you do

878
00:35:33,161 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: this work.

879
00:35:33,721 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: I haven't dated someone and done this work. I've always

880
00:35:36,041 --> 00:35:38,761
Speaker 3: quit for them. Oh really Yeah, because I won't be

881
00:35:38,801 --> 00:35:40,001
Speaker 3: with the man that's going to let me do that

882
00:35:40,041 --> 00:35:41,481
Speaker 3: work because they don't give a fuck about me if

883
00:35:41,481 --> 00:35:43,881
Speaker 3: they're letting me do that. Yeah, And I've never been

884
00:35:43,921 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: with a man that's like yeah, that's okay. No, they're

885
00:35:46,441 --> 00:35:47,321
Speaker 3: always that right out.

886
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:49,681
Speaker 4: Okay, I get what you're saying.

887
00:35:49,961 --> 00:35:53,321
Speaker 2: But then the guy, would you tell him that you

888
00:35:53,361 --> 00:35:55,241
Speaker 2: did this for a living if you met him, like

889
00:35:55,281 --> 00:35:56,601
Speaker 2: if you've done it for all, you keep.

890
00:35:56,441 --> 00:35:56,881
Speaker 4: It from him.

891
00:35:57,281 --> 00:36:01,721
Speaker 3: It depends, because I think I think you put it

892
00:36:01,721 --> 00:36:02,041
Speaker 3: this way.

893
00:36:02,321 --> 00:36:06,401
Speaker 2: If you're walking around, say for Sydney, for instance, you're

894
00:36:06,441 --> 00:36:10,321
Speaker 2: you're very noticeable. Surely one of their friends would go, oh,

895
00:36:10,441 --> 00:36:11,081
Speaker 2: I've seen here.

896
00:36:11,121 --> 00:36:14,041
Speaker 4: It's such and such. Well, oh that's happened. Sounds like

897
00:36:14,081 --> 00:36:14,361
Speaker 4: it does.

898
00:36:17,601 --> 00:36:20,121
Speaker 3: A few years ago, I started seeing this guy. He

899
00:36:20,201 --> 00:36:22,001
Speaker 3: was fresh out of jail. I was the first girl

900
00:36:22,081 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: he was without a jail. And we fell like really

901
00:36:25,481 --> 00:36:27,161
Speaker 3: in love with each other really quickly. And I was

902
00:36:27,201 --> 00:36:28,841
Speaker 3: living in Adelaidet the time, and he was in Sydney

903
00:36:28,841 --> 00:36:31,401
Speaker 3: and I come over to see him. When I left,

904
00:36:31,441 --> 00:36:34,361
Speaker 3: I was on a plane back to Adelaide. He got

905
00:36:34,361 --> 00:36:36,961
Speaker 3: called in for a meeting about me.

906
00:36:39,281 --> 00:36:42,761
Speaker 4: Was bike and they said that you used to they.

907
00:36:42,841 --> 00:36:45,761
Speaker 1: Said to him.

908
00:36:46,361 --> 00:36:49,201
Speaker 3: And I landed and I've got a message making you

909
00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:52,561
Speaker 3: need to ring me, and and.

910
00:36:52,521 --> 00:36:54,401
Speaker 1: I ring him and he's like, so is this true?

911
00:36:55,001 --> 00:36:56,041
Speaker 1: Is this true? Is this true?

912
00:36:56,081 --> 00:37:00,401
Speaker 3: I'm like yes, yes, and like where is this come from?

913
00:37:00,401 --> 00:37:02,241
Speaker 3: He goes, I got pulled into a meeting. I was like,

914
00:37:02,401 --> 00:37:03,361
Speaker 3: of course, you did.

915
00:37:05,201 --> 00:37:10,921
Speaker 2: Bad news for so long to get called into a

916
00:37:10,961 --> 00:37:13,481
Speaker 2: meeting and get a biking hub and stop.

917
00:37:13,921 --> 00:37:15,801
Speaker 3: I was actually with him last night and we were

918
00:37:15,841 --> 00:37:18,921
Speaker 3: talking about really yeah, like we're just good friends now,

919
00:37:18,921 --> 00:37:20,841
Speaker 3: like we did work being together because he couldn't get

920
00:37:20,881 --> 00:37:23,001
Speaker 3: over all this stuff that other people were telling him.

921
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:24,201
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm not going to stick around

922
00:37:24,201 --> 00:37:26,121
Speaker 3: for you to judge me, but now we're just good

923
00:37:26,121 --> 00:37:27,561
Speaker 3: friends because he's like, look past.

924
00:37:27,361 --> 00:37:31,121
Speaker 2: All of it, and yeah, wow, how would you market

925
00:37:31,161 --> 00:37:32,681
Speaker 2: yourself if you're doing privates.

926
00:37:33,041 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: Tatooed Barbie Doll?

927
00:37:34,801 --> 00:37:39,641
Speaker 3: I really yeah, it works guys like tattoos.

928
00:37:40,001 --> 00:37:43,641
Speaker 1: Really yes, especially once without any.

929
00:37:44,001 --> 00:37:45,801
Speaker 2: How much just the most you've made in a week

930
00:37:45,801 --> 00:37:51,921
Speaker 2: you reckon in a wee when you were in your prime, roughly.

931
00:37:53,161 --> 00:37:55,321
Speaker 1: Ten to fifteen grand.

932
00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:57,641
Speaker 2: Wow, So it would be very hard for you to

933
00:37:57,641 --> 00:38:00,321
Speaker 2: stop doing what you're doing. But there must have been

934
00:38:00,321 --> 00:38:02,481
Speaker 2: a point. What's going You've gone through this system there?

935
00:38:03,521 --> 00:38:04,401
Speaker 2: Did you have a look at that?

936
00:38:04,641 --> 00:38:04,801
Speaker 4: Well?

937
00:38:04,841 --> 00:38:07,601
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was coming up to be in thirty,

938
00:38:07,921 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, it might have been cute

939
00:38:09,481 --> 00:38:10,801
Speaker 3: and funny.

940
00:38:11,961 --> 00:38:12,761
Speaker 4: Okay, So I.

941
00:38:12,721 --> 00:38:15,241
Speaker 3: Was coming up to be in thirty and yeah, and

942
00:38:15,281 --> 00:38:16,721
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, it was cute and fun

943
00:38:17,201 --> 00:38:19,801
Speaker 3: in your twenties. In my twenties, I'm like, I'm nearly thirty.

944
00:38:19,801 --> 00:38:22,841
Speaker 3: I should kind of have my shit together. Yeah, and

945
00:38:22,881 --> 00:38:24,121
Speaker 3: then I ended up quitting.

946
00:38:24,921 --> 00:38:26,801
Speaker 4: Was it half of you to quit because you had

947
00:38:26,801 --> 00:38:27,561
Speaker 4: a fucking big life?

948
00:38:27,681 --> 00:38:27,841
Speaker 6: You know?

949
00:38:27,881 --> 00:38:28,521
Speaker 4: Attay?

950
00:38:28,681 --> 00:38:31,921
Speaker 3: Really it wasn't really because I started dating this guy

951
00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:33,801
Speaker 3: and he would have just giving me everything I wanted.

952
00:38:33,841 --> 00:38:35,561
Speaker 4: So was he a normal guy?

953
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:36,081
Speaker 1: No?

954
00:38:36,681 --> 00:38:39,041
Speaker 4: Never is any I didn't think it would be a

955
00:38:39,041 --> 00:38:39,721
Speaker 4: normal person.

956
00:38:41,041 --> 00:38:42,321
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. He was.

957
00:38:42,881 --> 00:38:44,881
Speaker 3: He was a biking and he was also in a

958
00:38:44,961 --> 00:38:51,361
Speaker 3: detention center. I told you the colorable life.

959
00:38:51,601 --> 00:39:01,601
Speaker 7: Wow, Okay, worst clients, worst, worst type of client that

960
00:39:01,641 --> 00:39:02,361
Speaker 7: you've ever had.

961
00:39:03,481 --> 00:39:05,721
Speaker 4: Was there a nationality you just want?

962
00:39:06,241 --> 00:39:07,201
Speaker 1: No? Not really?

963
00:39:07,641 --> 00:39:12,041
Speaker 4: Really? Are you sure, brother? I was trying to drag

964
00:39:12,081 --> 00:39:12,801
Speaker 4: it out of someone.

965
00:39:13,081 --> 00:39:16,041
Speaker 1: No, there's not really luck. I try to avoid Indians.

966
00:39:16,041 --> 00:39:17,521
Speaker 4: If my cat, that's the one I was going for.

967
00:39:19,721 --> 00:39:21,841
Speaker 3: But there's there's a certain types. So there's two different

968
00:39:21,881 --> 00:39:25,521
Speaker 3: types of like Indian religions. The ones that wear the turbans,

969
00:39:25,841 --> 00:39:29,241
Speaker 3: they're lovely, they're wonderful, they're so kind, respectful.

970
00:39:29,281 --> 00:39:31,081
Speaker 1: I've never had a single problem with one of them.

971
00:39:31,081 --> 00:39:31,881
Speaker 1: Mids the other ones.

972
00:39:32,441 --> 00:39:34,201
Speaker 4: Okay, I was more the hygiene.

973
00:39:34,721 --> 00:39:36,281
Speaker 1: Well, they're very very clean.

974
00:39:36,561 --> 00:39:39,321
Speaker 3: Really, I've never had a single problem with their hygiene,

975
00:39:39,361 --> 00:39:41,761
Speaker 3: their manners, like anything like that.

976
00:39:41,801 --> 00:39:43,961
Speaker 1: It's the other ones that are fucking awful.

977
00:39:44,401 --> 00:39:46,281
Speaker 4: What was the best client Sele to see.

978
00:39:51,121 --> 00:39:52,241
Speaker 1: Or what was my favorite?

979
00:39:52,361 --> 00:39:55,001
Speaker 4: Yeah?

980
00:39:55,641 --> 00:39:56,841
Speaker 1: That's pretty obvious, isn't it.

981
00:39:57,481 --> 00:40:01,561
Speaker 2: Any celebrities come into venies. I know you can't name them,

982
00:40:01,561 --> 00:40:02,921
Speaker 2: but did you? Did any come in?

983
00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Not when I was in any, but I think there were. Yeah, yeah,

984
00:40:06,521 --> 00:40:07,721
Speaker 3: I definitely think that there was.

985
00:40:08,641 --> 00:40:14,321
Speaker 2: M Okay, most most requested sex position you've been asked?

986
00:40:14,321 --> 00:40:16,361
Speaker 4: Why always? That was it?

987
00:40:16,921 --> 00:40:18,801
Speaker 1: That was honestly my favorite too, Because I didn't.

988
00:40:18,601 --> 00:40:20,761
Speaker 4: Have that's your favorite?

989
00:40:21,441 --> 00:40:22,921
Speaker 1: I didn't have to look at them.

990
00:40:23,041 --> 00:40:23,641
Speaker 4: Oh really?

991
00:40:23,801 --> 00:40:24,001
Speaker 1: Yeah?

992
00:40:24,041 --> 00:40:26,481
Speaker 3: Because I hate I hate people in my face. I

993
00:40:26,641 --> 00:40:30,801
Speaker 3: hate people, so if they're there, they're really far from

994
00:40:30,841 --> 00:40:31,321
Speaker 3: my face.

995
00:40:32,481 --> 00:40:33,241
Speaker 4: That what it is.

996
00:40:33,401 --> 00:40:36,041
Speaker 1: Yeah, in my own personal life, get as close to

997
00:40:36,041 --> 00:40:36,561
Speaker 1: me as you want.

998
00:40:36,601 --> 00:40:39,081
Speaker 3: But in that I hated when people would get to

999
00:40:39,601 --> 00:40:41,561
Speaker 3: up in my face because I don't kiss people.

1000
00:40:41,601 --> 00:40:42,561
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

1001
00:40:43,201 --> 00:40:46,121
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sure, I think I think you've had somehow

1002
00:40:46,201 --> 00:40:49,761
Speaker 2: I think you're lying there, You boky pies there, especially

1003
00:40:49,801 --> 00:40:51,081
Speaker 2: in some of these clients you've had.

1004
00:40:54,681 --> 00:40:57,241
Speaker 1: I've got a specific type. And if you have type, then.

1005
00:40:59,961 --> 00:41:04,921
Speaker 8: As long as he's got a baking jacket on. No, no, no, no,

1006
00:41:05,321 --> 00:41:07,321
Speaker 8: we've got We've moved on from that. I like guys

1007
00:41:07,321 --> 00:41:10,321
Speaker 8: with tattoos, so it's similar to what you've got.

1008
00:41:10,641 --> 00:41:15,121
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything makes you nervous, you get intimidated the law.

1009
00:41:15,721 --> 00:41:19,601
Speaker 1: No, not really. I was scared coming in here. You Yeah,

1010
00:41:21,281 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: because I'm like, obviously my friends know.

1011
00:41:23,441 --> 00:41:26,401
Speaker 3: This about my life. Yeah not the world, but not

1012
00:41:26,441 --> 00:41:32,721
Speaker 3: the world. Yeah, it will whole Adelade will know soon. Well,

1013
00:41:32,761 --> 00:41:34,721
Speaker 3: like I said to you earlier, like my mate said

1014
00:41:34,761 --> 00:41:36,761
Speaker 3: to me that I love talking about myself. Something's just

1015
00:41:36,761 --> 00:41:39,321
Speaker 3: giving me a microphone now, Like I should be fine.

1016
00:41:40,561 --> 00:41:42,281
Speaker 2: What I'm not going to some of your some of

1017
00:41:42,321 --> 00:41:45,561
Speaker 2: your places that you worked at, Golden Apple? What was

1018
00:41:45,561 --> 00:41:47,521
Speaker 2: I because I used to look after a lot of

1019
00:41:47,561 --> 00:41:49,401
Speaker 2: the girls in Golden Apple when I worked at YU,

1020
00:41:49,801 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: So I used to go into that venue a lot

1021
00:41:51,521 --> 00:41:52,361
Speaker 2: to kick people out.

1022
00:41:52,761 --> 00:41:55,921
Speaker 3: I loved the Golden Apple Yeah yeah, because it was

1023
00:41:56,041 --> 00:42:01,201
Speaker 3: just grimy and dirty and King's Cross, like, I loved it.

1024
00:42:01,241 --> 00:42:02,041
Speaker 4: How long were therefore?

1025
00:42:02,481 --> 00:42:03,921
Speaker 1: I think I was there for about a year.

1026
00:42:04,321 --> 00:42:06,561
Speaker 2: Because I remember I remember it was it was a

1027
00:42:06,601 --> 00:42:09,121
Speaker 2: tall terrace building and a lot of the rooms were

1028
00:42:09,361 --> 00:42:10,161
Speaker 2: wining these stairs.

1029
00:42:10,201 --> 00:42:12,201
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know how many times I fell down?

1030
00:42:14,361 --> 00:42:16,401
Speaker 2: So I remember going in there yea to kick a

1031
00:42:16,441 --> 00:42:18,121
Speaker 2: lot of people are clear patches.

1032
00:42:18,601 --> 00:42:20,281
Speaker 1: I wasn't there for very long because I just didn't

1033
00:42:20,281 --> 00:42:21,161
Speaker 1: make much money there.

1034
00:42:21,681 --> 00:42:24,521
Speaker 3: Okay, that was weather or Park. I don't know if

1035
00:42:24,521 --> 00:42:25,881
Speaker 3: it's still there. I think it's still there. I think

1036
00:42:25,881 --> 00:42:27,561
Speaker 3: it got a new owner. I don't know though.

1037
00:42:27,801 --> 00:42:29,681
Speaker 4: Okay, Castle Blanket, where's that?

1038
00:42:29,961 --> 00:42:30,521
Speaker 1: Liverpool?

1039
00:42:31,361 --> 00:42:32,801
Speaker 4: Okay, I was there.

1040
00:42:32,961 --> 00:42:35,641
Speaker 1: I was there for ages. I loved it. There, made

1041
00:42:35,801 --> 00:42:37,641
Speaker 1: heaps of money because lebos love me.

1042
00:42:39,801 --> 00:42:40,801
Speaker 4: There's your favorite.

1043
00:42:41,681 --> 00:42:43,761
Speaker 1: They're not my favorite. You're not not my favorite. They

1044
00:42:43,801 --> 00:42:44,201
Speaker 1: just love me.

1045
00:42:44,521 --> 00:42:48,721
Speaker 2: Okay, blonde hair, blond hair and tatoos, they love it. Okay,

1046
00:42:48,761 --> 00:42:50,481
Speaker 2: what's what's number nine banks?

1047
00:42:50,481 --> 00:42:51,921
Speaker 4: Town? What tail is that?

1048
00:42:52,241 --> 00:42:53,881
Speaker 1: That was this little weird Asian one.

1049
00:42:54,001 --> 00:42:57,801
Speaker 3: But it was just constantly always Lebos in and out

1050
00:42:57,841 --> 00:42:59,841
Speaker 3: of there, so it was like it was just his

1051
00:42:59,881 --> 00:43:02,281
Speaker 3: little dodgy. It was little and shitty, but you just

1052
00:43:02,361 --> 00:43:04,521
Speaker 3: made so much money because the lebo is just clean.

1053
00:43:05,201 --> 00:43:08,561
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound clean and sounds like especially from bank soun

1054
00:43:09,601 --> 00:43:12,561
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Number nine banks sound yea

1055
00:43:13,001 --> 00:43:14,361
Speaker 2: dead Liaisons?

1056
00:43:14,561 --> 00:43:14,841
Speaker 4: Was that?

1057
00:43:15,721 --> 00:43:16,321
Speaker 1: Where is that?

1058
00:43:16,361 --> 00:43:18,921
Speaker 3: What's the train station after King's Cross on the way

1059
00:43:18,921 --> 00:43:19,721
Speaker 3: to Bondai Junction?

1060
00:43:20,161 --> 00:43:20,881
Speaker 1: What areas? Is it?

1061
00:43:20,961 --> 00:43:25,081
Speaker 4: Edgecliff that I don't know? Probably transports a lot.

1062
00:43:25,361 --> 00:43:27,761
Speaker 3: Leah, I'm pretty surely Ions and gold Apple are owned

1063
00:43:27,801 --> 00:43:28,441
Speaker 3: by the same people.

1064
00:43:28,761 --> 00:43:32,401
Speaker 4: Okay, and then mist these good old Mistis.

1065
00:43:34,321 --> 00:43:35,561
Speaker 1: I was there for a while. I was there for

1066
00:43:35,561 --> 00:43:37,481
Speaker 1: probably six or so.

1067
00:43:37,561 --> 00:43:38,961
Speaker 4: That's that's known for massage.

1068
00:43:39,161 --> 00:43:43,081
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've gone there knowing that that's a massage place.

1069
00:43:43,241 --> 00:43:45,761
Speaker 4: But okay, I was Missy with you.

1070
00:43:45,881 --> 00:43:50,121
Speaker 1: She loved me, well, she loved me for a little bit.

1071
00:43:50,321 --> 00:43:52,081
Speaker 3: She used to fire me a lot, and then I

1072
00:43:52,081 --> 00:43:54,081
Speaker 3: would obviously not come to work and she'd bring me

1073
00:43:54,121 --> 00:43:56,121
Speaker 3: screaming of why I wasn't at work, and I'm like,

1074
00:43:56,161 --> 00:43:56,881
Speaker 3: you fired me.

1075
00:43:57,361 --> 00:44:00,001
Speaker 1: I fucking didn't get your ears here. I'm like the fuck.

1076
00:44:01,641 --> 00:44:04,961
Speaker 3: She had me going seven days a week there, seven days,

1077
00:44:05,161 --> 00:44:06,601
Speaker 3: God forbid, I took a day off.

1078
00:44:06,841 --> 00:44:07,921
Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't.

1079
00:44:08,241 --> 00:44:09,921
Speaker 2: That's what a lot of a lot of the girls

1080
00:44:09,921 --> 00:44:11,761
Speaker 2: that I've had on my show then they've worked there,

1081
00:44:11,801 --> 00:44:12,721
Speaker 2: they've said the same thing.

1082
00:44:13,241 --> 00:44:15,361
Speaker 4: She was a workahology. Yeah with her girls.

1083
00:44:15,401 --> 00:44:18,241
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, But that's how she became so good and

1084
00:44:18,281 --> 00:44:20,641
Speaker 2: big because of the that's you know what I mean?

1085
00:44:22,321 --> 00:44:23,121
Speaker 4: What made you then?

1086
00:44:23,121 --> 00:44:25,041
Speaker 2: Okay, we've talked about it in a little way, but

1087
00:44:25,481 --> 00:44:27,441
Speaker 2: when you said that you needed it was time for

1088
00:44:27,441 --> 00:44:28,641
Speaker 2: you to get out, and that was it because you

1089
00:44:28,641 --> 00:44:29,921
Speaker 2: were getting to that a certain age.

1090
00:44:30,841 --> 00:44:31,841
Speaker 4: How much did you miss it?

1091
00:44:32,601 --> 00:44:33,481
Speaker 1: I didn't miss it at all.

1092
00:44:34,481 --> 00:44:37,321
Speaker 4: No, not the money. You're not all that kind of stuff.

1093
00:44:37,721 --> 00:44:39,761
Speaker 3: Because when I first got out, I was with my

1094
00:44:39,841 --> 00:44:43,201
Speaker 3: ex boyfriend and he paid for everything. And then when

1095
00:44:43,241 --> 00:44:45,601
Speaker 3: we broke up, I just so happened to start dating

1096
00:44:45,601 --> 00:44:47,161
Speaker 3: someone else and he paid for everything.

1097
00:44:47,281 --> 00:44:50,441
Speaker 2: So wow, So you really you knew that when you

1098
00:44:50,481 --> 00:44:51,921
Speaker 2: were getting now that was it done.

1099
00:44:52,041 --> 00:44:54,561
Speaker 4: That was and there was no kind of like going back.

1100
00:44:54,881 --> 00:44:57,801
Speaker 3: I started studying and everything like that, so I had

1101
00:44:57,841 --> 00:44:59,041
Speaker 3: my mindset on what I was doing.

1102
00:44:59,721 --> 00:45:03,041
Speaker 1: Wow, any regrets that it didn't save my money?

1103
00:45:03,841 --> 00:45:05,841
Speaker 4: So you didn't set all that much that you've made.

1104
00:45:06,001 --> 00:45:07,761
Speaker 4: You've partied on it, and fucking.

1105
00:45:08,121 --> 00:45:09,521
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I didn't have a good time,

1106
00:45:09,521 --> 00:45:10,601
Speaker 1: because I definitely did.

1107
00:45:10,881 --> 00:45:14,361
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, I know now you said that

1108
00:45:14,441 --> 00:45:16,521
Speaker 2: you've you've gone past that now and you're doing what

1109
00:45:16,521 --> 00:45:19,961
Speaker 2: you're doing, but saying that you didn't save your money?

1110
00:45:20,121 --> 00:45:22,361
Speaker 4: Does that? And you know and how much money you

1111
00:45:22,441 --> 00:45:23,201
Speaker 4: can make for me?

1112
00:45:23,321 --> 00:45:24,841
Speaker 1: I know how much money I have made.

1113
00:45:25,561 --> 00:45:28,121
Speaker 2: Would that it take you to go back? Not even

1114
00:45:28,241 --> 00:45:31,921
Speaker 2: for a little bit. You're happy without it now. I

1115
00:45:32,001 --> 00:45:34,921
Speaker 2: live a really normal life now back in Adelaide.

1116
00:45:35,161 --> 00:45:35,481
Speaker 1: Yes.

1117
00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:39,481
Speaker 2: Wow, So coming down to Sydney now doesn't bring back

1118
00:45:39,481 --> 00:45:41,401
Speaker 2: memories and go wow, just maybe one more job.

1119
00:45:41,801 --> 00:45:43,801
Speaker 1: No, it just makes me my friends and living here

1120
00:45:44,561 --> 00:45:45,121
Speaker 1: just you.

1121
00:45:45,161 --> 00:45:48,361
Speaker 4: In one word, this.

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Speaker 1: Is probably what everybody else will describe me. But trouble.

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Speaker 4: That's a fucking good one. I like that one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's that's sus you will. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, I thank you for coming on. I think

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Speaker 2: you were very interesting, very interesting, but you were honest

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Speaker 2: and I like that and I wish you well in

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Speaker 2: the future you too, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me

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Speaker 3: M