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Speaker 1: I got a team.

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Speaker 2: It's Craig Anthony Harper, It's Bobby Cappuccio on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the ocean over there in good old California.

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Speaker 2: He's waving to you. You've just been waved out. You

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Speaker 2: don't know it, but I'll take that wave on behalf

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Speaker 2: of the audience. Robert, how are you me?

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Speaker 3: I'm great. Do you ever share these videos or we

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Speaker 3: just like rock up and wave it people for no

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Speaker 3: reason because I'm just the weird.

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Speaker 2: No. We share grabs here and there. But I think,

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Speaker 2: like with our show, people are way more interested in

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Speaker 2: listening than watching, and it's much more convenient.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: But do you think we should that's a good question, Hey, listeners,

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Speaker 2: let's ask you, because you're the fucking listeners. What do

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Speaker 2: you think that we should? Now, I remember there's a

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Speaker 2: bit of work involved, so don't tell me. Craig, please

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Speaker 2: put them all up on YouTube and then don't watch them.

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Speaker 2: But are you way more likely to listen than watch?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm happy to put them up, but I don't

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Speaker 2: really want to put them up. If you know, seven

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Speaker 2: and a half people are watching, but we seem you know,

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Speaker 2: we have a pretty big audience. We have a lot

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Speaker 2: of momentum in the audio space, so but but yeah,

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Speaker 2: we often will put up a grab of you and

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Speaker 2: me talking about something or as just a part of

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Speaker 2: a real or a promo all that. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's something to think about moving forward. What are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts do you think we should do that?

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Speaker 3: Well? For me, it's I've been thinking about with my

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Speaker 3: own podcast because most of my listeners prefer audio as well.

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Speaker 3: But for me, it's a matter of access. I'll listen

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Speaker 3: to podcasts on YouTube because it's just easy. It's just

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Speaker 3: part of my daily workflow to go on YouTube, and like,

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Speaker 3: even when I'm in the gym, I'm not watching these things.

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Speaker 3: My phone's in my pocket. Yeah, but it's just easy

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Speaker 3: for me to have another platform to access. And people

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Speaker 3: do want to watch, they can even though a lot

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Speaker 3: of people do listen. I'm great with this because I've

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Speaker 3: got like the perfect face for audio.

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Speaker 2: Well, as my mum says, I too have the perfect

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Speaker 2: face for audio. No, you're very handsome, don't say that. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to chat about I want to take a

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Speaker 2: left turn today And I said to you three minutes ago,

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Speaker 2: I said, it's funny because and I know this is

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Speaker 2: a stupid thing to say, but it's true for me.

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Speaker 2: It's only like the last year I've realized, like as

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Speaker 2: in had a personal experience of oh, you're old. You're

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Speaker 2: actually old. You know, I know you can be older,

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Speaker 2: you're not the oldest, but you're fucking old. And I

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Speaker 2: remember when I was a kid looking at people who

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Speaker 2: were in their forty thinking how the fuck do people

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Speaker 2: get that old? And I remember going to a fiftieth

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Speaker 2: when I was a child. I've said this story before,

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Speaker 2: but it was my uncle's fiftieth and the majority of people,

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Speaker 2: will give or take, were fifty and I was just

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Speaker 2: and I was just mesmerized by how all of these

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Speaker 2: people could still be alive because I'm so fucking old. Recently,

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Speaker 2: I've gotten a bit crooked, and I went, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: not like and not just bouncing back and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're not You're actually old. You know, you're not in

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Speaker 2: bad shape for your age, and but you're sixty one.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's be practical. You know, shit's going to

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Speaker 2: fall off, You're going to die. It's you know, and

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Speaker 2: we can hopefully manipulate well let's hope it's not soon,

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Speaker 2: but we can manipulate the variables around that and hopefully

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Speaker 2: rate at which we age, and you know all that

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, health span versus lifespan stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you do you ever have a sense of your age

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Speaker 3: It takes me about a good fifteen minutes to shuffle

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Speaker 3: around the house just to get past the planet fasciatus.

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Speaker 3: I've had multiple multiple fractures in my classical I'm not

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Speaker 3: even sure how I got those. But now, when I

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Speaker 3: something did happen. They didn't quite remember. Some people walking

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Speaker 3: stock's falling off. I'm all laprosy. Thankfully this is my status.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I've been going through all this stuff

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Speaker 2: lately with fucking sinus infection. I thought I had all

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Speaker 2: I had prostate answer and all this stuff, which, Praise

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Speaker 2: how bad would severe cognitive decline? But how bad is that?

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Speaker 2: How bad? And sad is dementia for people? You know?

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Speaker 2: Because like, my brain is my tool, that's it. That's

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Speaker 2: the only thing in my kid bag. If my brain

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Speaker 3: I think it's well, it's like and then last.

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Speaker 2: Night I woke up and it so we're recording this Thursday.

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Speaker 2: It's twelve forty five, eleven forty five. Clearly I state

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Speaker 2: work and two am ish just this like neural pain

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh God. And I tried to just

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Speaker 2: too volta and which not a recommendation everybody. But and

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Speaker 2: then before I could sleep, and I'm like, what's going

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Speaker 2: would not even think about that thing. Like the other

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Speaker 2: day Johnny, who I train, who you know, he had

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Speaker 2: a bit of a stumble in the gym and he

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Speaker 2: face planted the fucking gym floor. Fortunately he wasn't. He

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Speaker 2: missed everything on the way down right. I was so

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Speaker 2: about twenty feet away carrying dumbbells to him, and I

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Speaker 2: saw him start to teeter, and then I dropped the dumbbells.

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Speaker 2: That's all rubber flooring. I dropped the dumbbells and I

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Speaker 2: fucking sprinted to him and I just missed him right,

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Speaker 2: and then I and he hit the floor. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you've got one responsibility, Craig, to make sure

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Speaker 2: his motherfucker doesn't die in the gym, and you didn't

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Speaker 2: do your job. And then I felt shit. And then

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Speaker 2: I lifted him up in about a nanosecond with a

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Speaker 2: bit of help from the crab. Of course, who's ever vigilant.

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Speaker 2: He missed him as well. He just got in after it.

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Speaker 2: But I just ripped him up off the floor and

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Speaker 2: then about now later. My back's like, yeah, you probably

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Speaker 2: But my lower back, you know, because you don't, you

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Speaker 2: don't get there and go all right, now, Have I

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Speaker 2: bent my knees, Have I activated my TVA and my

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Speaker 2: feet wide? Have I got a good basis support? All right?

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Speaker 2: Now lift? Now you just run over there and do it.

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Speaker 2: But and you could do that once upon a time.

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Speaker 2: But how my back's like, hey, get fucked, give us

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Speaker 2: some fucking painkillers.

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Speaker 3: You're like the patron stint of snap fitness. Do you

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Speaker 3: realize that the people how many people have you saved

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Speaker 3: from something or helped out or I know, like on

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Speaker 3: a couple of occasions, you've stopped me personally from making

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Speaker 3: very very bad life choices in that gym.

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Speaker 2: It's like that always had to do with women, and

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Speaker 2: you've got that sort of Now I say, you're.

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Speaker 3: Right, well, I never make those types of choices in

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Speaker 3: the gym, but you've you've actually helped me out there

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Speaker 3: outside of the gym as well. So I think everybody

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Speaker 3: in the gym should at least get you a giant

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Speaker 3: cord and sign it thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I reckon when you're getting, by the way, relationship,

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Speaker 2: that kind of relationship advice from me. You'd definitely gone

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Speaker 3: But how is your body totally blame you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but didn't you also tear your peck? Well,

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Speaker 2: you did tear.

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Speaker 3: but it's still detached. Yeah, I never had that six

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Speaker 2: So is yours left peck?

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Speaker 2: Mine's mine, the right peck. I tore my ninety percent

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Speaker 2: off the bone and that's still I didn't get surgery

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Speaker 2: because I got misguided with the medical kind of anyway.

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Speaker 2: Also a physical therapist as you call it, and by

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not really sure. I probably should have.

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Speaker 3: Grade one. It was a muscular tear, which esthetically improved it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, oh, that's that's not bad. Why

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Speaker 3: couldn't I have just done this in the first place. Oh,

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Speaker 3: because I'm a moron and like, I do things in

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Speaker 3: I go through these phases where I got three months

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Speaker 2: You're funny because I see you as well, I know

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Speaker 2: you as very OCD or you have that capacity to

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Speaker 2: be very OCD and very perfectionistic and almost to the

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Speaker 2: point where you like you get anxious if you can't

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Speaker 2: do things certain way, which we've spoken about. But I

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Speaker 2: don't see you like I know your lifestyle is relatively

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Speaker 2: definitely don't think you're a piss pot, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't see the same level of obsession around save food

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Speaker 2: for you, Like I'm pretty obsessed in that. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty what's the word regulated and strict, you know, way

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Speaker 2: in my fucking breakfast, you know, because I have a

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Speaker 2: background with an eating disorder and eating issues and body

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Speaker 2: way more anal is not the right word, but OCD

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Speaker 2: way more, I don't know, almost irrational about shit. It's

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Speaker 2: like rational but almost irrational than you, like you just

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Speaker 3: Ticks are like that. It's like it's like having a

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Speaker 3: They're both mutually reinforcing, like getting out of my getting

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Speaker 2: because you happen to be in this place at this time,

430
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: doing this thing with these people. Now, you can't just

431
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: have one of those every week? So how do you

432
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: take that knowledge and that experience and try to recreate

433
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: something like that that is clearly physically, mentally, emotionally and

434
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 2: spiritually good for you? Like, because you can't just have

435
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: three days with awesome people every well, the average person can't.

436
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: How do you how do you extrapolate something from that

437
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: that you could implement I guess when you're not there.

438
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: Well, for me, it's it's two things. It's by design,

439
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: where so I just joined a stand up comedy class,

440
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: so I get to go hang out with the type

441
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: of people I want to hang out with, and I

442
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: get to work on something that has a direct correlation

443
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: to my work, to my job role. But it's also

444
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: very difficult. It's also not a It is a public

445
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: speaking class. By every measure of the world, the stuff

446
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: we talk about is absolutely transferable. But it's not to

447
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: get up and speak for an hour or eight hours.

448
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: It's to get up nearly ten minutes at a comedy club.

449
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: And for me, it's challenging. It's putting myself in an

450
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: environment that has equal measure of support and challenge, being

451
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: around people that I could feed off of while learning

452
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 3: new skills and growing. I think growth and skill development

453
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: is essential for happiness and well being, so you can

454
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: do that. I also feel that for me, I'm not

455
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: saying this works for everyone. I mean, James Clear in

456
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: his book Atomic Habits, talks about this where yes, there's

457
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: will power, but we underappreciate identity, how we see ourselves,

458
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: who we say we are, and our environment. So I'm

459
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: very much aware that when I scroll through social media,

460
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: especially lately, does such harm to my emotional and mental state.

461
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: I can't and it's not just wasting time. It's not

462
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: just you're sitting there looking at things. Some of them

463
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: are entertaining, some of the i'm a horrific and you

464
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: pick your head up for after thirty minutes, it's like,

465
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: where did they go? What the hell was that? That

466
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: was not a great use of my time for me

467
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: to go, Okay, I'm not going to go on social

468
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: media during my work day, that's ridiculous.

469
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

470
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: What I did is I deleted all my social media

471
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: apps from my phone. I took my iPad where I

472
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: have them, I put it away on a shelf somewhere.

473
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: So if I want to go on social media, it's

474
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: not like, oh, it's right there. It's reflexive. I have

475
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: to go through a couple of steps and think about

476
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: it to access kind of stuff like that.

477
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: You know, to me, what's the negative emotional consequence that

478
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: you're talking about? Like you say, it fucks you up,

479
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't help you, it's not doing you any service,

480
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: Like what is there? What's the byproduct? Like what are

481
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: you looking at? What are you looking at that's making

482
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: you so shitty?

483
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: Oh? You know the things that pop up on my

484
00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: feed because I think that everything is is politically divisive today,

485
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: isn't it. It's like, oh, I just got a new cat.

486
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: Well is that a left leaning or a right leaning?

487
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: Which side is into cats?

488
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Now? Did you get it from a shelter or not?

489
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Did you is this like? Did you save it? Or

490
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: did you just buy a cat? You fucking capitalist pig?

491
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

492
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: I get it.

493
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: It's no no capitalist cat. I had a chance to

494
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: get a capitalist pig, but you know it was adopted

495
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: right now and it's just ridiculous. So I guess because

496
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a weirdo, I am a moderate or a

497
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: centrist I get everything, and I see all of these things,

498
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: and it's just constant exposure to to anger, to complete intolerance,

499
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: lack of openness to any other opinion that does not

500
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: completely align with mine, whether or not I'm even able

501
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: to articulate what my opinion is and why I'm told it.

502
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: So I get quite angry. I get quite anxious when

503
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: I'm going through social media. It's one of the reasons.

504
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: And it's it's kind of hypocritical because like when you

505
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: get up and your public speak. I was talking to

506
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: someone today who and they were like, Oh, I want

507
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: to go do this thing. I want to go do

508
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: this event, but I'm not ready. I'm just not ready,

509
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 3: and you know, I have a lot of fear and

510
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm afraid I'm going to say something wrong. And I

511
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to be harsh, but I was like, well,

512
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: between now and then, you have a lot of opportunities

513
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: to kind of practice in again a challenging but relatively

514
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: safe environment. But if you are afraid, oh what if

515
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't say the right that, You're never going to

516
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: be ready for this, Like this is not for you.

517
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: If there's anything like you're you're great and you're smart,

518
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: and you can do a lot of things. You might

519
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: not want to do this because there is no way

520
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: around that failure. So in that area, I have that

521
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: openness and I have that level of resilience where of

522
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: course it bothers me. If I got bootoff stage tomorrow,

523
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: it would hurt my feelings and I would wallow in

524
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: it and wake up the next morning and get on

525
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: another stage, yeah, and be fine. So for me to

526
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: be so impacted by social media that I intentionally stay

527
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: away from it, even though it's a really great tool

528
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: for me and I can communicate with so many more people.

529
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: To me, it seems a little bit hypocritical, But I

530
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: had to make a decision. Am I better or worse?

531
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: And most of the time I am worse because I'll

532
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: go to make a post and it's like, oh, you know,

533
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: somebody comments on a post, Oh, let me respond, and

534
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: then you just like they're so good, they're so smart.

535
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, I'm four posts in and now

536
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: oh there's there's like a cat video and is like

537
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: wearing an outfit that this is amazing. I just got

538
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: to see how this plays out. And then you know,

539
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: next thing, I'm like like the funniest cat videos. Cats

540
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: that can talk, Are they really speaking or are they

541
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: just mimicking? And then and then I'm like into twelve

542
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: political rants.

543
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: You know, I don't do lots of one on one anymore,

544
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: but I do a bit, and you know, obviously just

545
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: chat to a bunch of people. But one of the

546
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: questions that I suggest people ask if they're where you are,

547
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: which is, oh, yeah, I just go down a rabbit hole.

548
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: I get lost. And I know you don't need advice

549
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: from me, So this is for our listeners. But I

550
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: always say, based on what I want to do today

551
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: and be and create, based on what I want to

552
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: get done today, is what I'm doing right now a

553
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: good investment of my energy and time? Like, is this

554
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: what I'm doing right now? Is this a wise investment

555
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: of my energy, which is not, by the way, a

556
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: limitless resource. You know, it's not an infinite resource. Neither

557
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: is my time. And it's like just hitting that pausemuton

558
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: and going no, this is bullshit, stop now, stop now,

559
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: because this is like you know, psychological or cognitive heroin.

560
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: For me, this is so shit, you know. And and

561
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: I asked that question, Well, I was going to say,

562
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: every day I truly intend to every day, but I

563
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: would say five or six days of the week, I

564
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: kind of I get my coffee, I sit there, I

565
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: be still before I start looking at stuff, which is

566
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: usually emails to be honest at the start, because I

567
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: don't look at them too much through the day. And

568
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: I say, based on want to do what I want

569
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: to do, be create and change today, what's the best

570
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: use of my energy, what's the best use of me,

571
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: what's the best use of my time? And then I

572
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: tried to without getting too kind of box sticky or

573
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: too kind of to do listy, or but just go yeah,

574
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: so this is this is what I need to get

575
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: done by lunchtime, these four things. And it's now six thirty,

576
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: so cool. And then I get to lunchtime and I've

577
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: done those things or I haven't, you know. And then

578
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: I go, well, either way it's on me, either well

579
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: done me, or you know, do better this afternoon. But

580
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: I think that this is a real exercise in self

581
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 2: awareness and situational awareness, is being able to put the

582
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: brakes on that shit and just go yeah. It's almost

583
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: that other worldly you looking at you, you know, it's

584
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: like you looking down on you, going come on, bro,

585
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: this is not you. This is not what you want

586
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: to be doing, This is not who you want to be,

587
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: this is this is bullshit. This is not healthy for you,

588
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: This is not helping you. This is destructive, not constructive.

589
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Fuck that stuff off. So I'm proud of you, mate,

590
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: for getting off all those things. I think it's I

591
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: think it's a very good strategy. And as you said,

592
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: if you do need to or really want to, you

593
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: can access it. But you've made it. You've created a

594
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: couple of barriers between you and it, which is so

595
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: practically smart.

596
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if I want to go on and look

597
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: at social media, because there's a lot going on in

598
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: the world right now, and a lot of and I

599
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: don't want to talk about it, but a lot of

600
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: it does concern me, and so yeah, like I can

601
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: access it. I love the question what is the best

602
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: use of my time right now? Because that's like a

603
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: centering and a moment of self awareness. The issue with

604
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: me is I'll ask that question, but only after I

605
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: snap out of a trance that it works for me? Is

606
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: how do I restructure my environment to where the environment

607
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: lends itself to the task at hand. When you talked

608
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: about writing a list. Lists are something I've got back into.

609
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: There is there is so much science behind a list

610
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: and there's so much practicality. I love working off of

611
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: a list. It keeps me really focused. But me, like,

612
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: right even with choosing where I live, for me is strategic.

613
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: Right now, I've got a building that has two, you know,

614
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: relatively small but lovely courtyards and this lounge and co

615
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: share place. It kind of looks like you ever been

616
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: one of those like old world smoke shops kind of

617
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: things where they've got like the tough leather sofas, and

618
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: like everybody's in there discussing business in the lounge, like

619
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 3: average age is like ninety eight years old.

620
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: It sounded like a John Wick movie up to that point.

621
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of like that,

622
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: but you know, you don't see john Wick type characters there.

623
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: It's usually yeah, a which ages eighty seven, and they're like,

624
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, like talking about some type of business venture.

625
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: But my lobby, I have that area, like a lounge

626
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: that kind of looks like that with the fireplace. Just

627
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: get out of your house. So I'm going to go

628
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: through that list downstairs and a lot of times I'll

629
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: leave my mobile phone upstairs because if it's an emergency,

630
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: I can access it. So the only thing I could

631
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: do is work. There's nothing else I've got, like the

632
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: loo just to my right, and I don't need to

633
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: I don't I can't go anywhere where there are distractions.

634
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: How restructuring that environment's critical for me.

635
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: How okay are you with not being productive? I don't

636
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: mean scrolling on Insta. I mean just going down to

637
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: the lobby and just hanging out, just breathing, maybe chatting

638
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: to someone, maybe not getting anything done, maybe not ticking

639
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: a box, not bloody, meeting something. Yeah, that's something I'm

640
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: moving closer to and doing more frequently.

641
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Where I go.

642
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: I've been like not productive this afternoon at all. And

643
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: that's fine, Like it's it's it's intended. It's not like,

644
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: oh fuck, I wasted. No, it's not like that. It's

645
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: like like last week when I was sick, you know,

646
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: the coin of the world kept ringing me, going do nothing,

647
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: do nothing, lie down, watch Netflix, stop moving, stop trying

648
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: to do shit, and I'm.

649
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Like important, important, Don've got important to do?

650
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, you're such a fucking idiot. You

651
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: know value anyway, your brain's not working, your energy's one

652
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: out of ten, and you're full of snot and you're hideous,

653
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: and stay away from everybody and just rest. And it's like, yeah,

654
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: that's for me. And I ended up doing that, which

655
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: was simultaneously cathartic and also frustrating, you know, but it's

656
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: what I needed.

657
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you have a spot on cantankerous

658
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: old man voice. Well done there, I'm very impressed. I

659
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: enjoyed that. Thank you.

660
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: You're welcome to I think for.

661
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: Me it's context dependent. If I plan to do something

662
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: and I have intention around doing something and I find

663
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: myself not doing something, I tend to have an internal

664
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: dialogue with myself that is less than constructive. I don't

665
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: deal with that very well. I tend to be very disappointed,

666
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: butreat myself and like command myself back to work like

667
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: you're drunk an abusive foreman. So yeah, don't don't do that.

668
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: That's that's not a great strategy. But if I find

669
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 3: myself at certain points just drifting off and doing nothing,

670
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: I don't think anything's wasted. Because when you're in highly

671
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: creative work and people that are not in this space right,

672
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: it's I don't think it is very hard. Like like,

673
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: let's say you have six seminars that you have to

674
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: create from scratch this month. Yep, that's a lot of work.

675
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: You know, end articles and trainings, and it's like, so

676
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: you got to put all this there's all this output

677
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: coming out of you sometimes like letting your mind wander

678
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: and doing absolutely nothing, or getting involved in the conversation,

679
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: going for a walk, or getting lost in thought. It's

680
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: using those brain states to become more creative. So this

681
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: is probably a horrible example, but what pops into my

682
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: mind is Stephen Covey's book Seven Habits of Highly Effected

683
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: People and the habit around sharpening the saw. It's such

684
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: a great story. I don't think I appreciated it when

685
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: I first read the book. Now that you're old, I

686
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: love his stories because they really land with me. You

687
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: know that lumberjack who's stopping like every hour and sitting

688
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: down and sharpening. To the rest of the lumberjacks, this

689
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: person's wasteful and not productive. It's like, dude, we've got

690
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: to chop down a certain amount of trees. We've only

691
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: got a day to do it. You're taking more breaks

692
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: than anyone. Well, at the end of the week, this

693
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: guy's chopped down thirty percent more trees than everybody else.

694
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: And I think mentally, just just going out for a

695
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: walk and having a wander and allowing yourself to do

696
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing makes you so much more productive. And I

697
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: don't want to hear that chat GPT shit because you

698
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: cannot have chat GPT is a great tool. I utilize

699
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: chat GPT as a thought partner. But you can't just

700
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: have chat GPT rite presentations for you, and it's not

701
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: gonna be visceral, it's not gonna be human, it's not

702
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: gonna land. You can't have chat GPT right reports for

703
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: you and stuff well report I think emails and reports, yeah, absolutely,

704
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: but human to human things where where the stakes are

705
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: very high, you're not going to come across as a

706
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: human being and you're not gonna come across authentically. As

707
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, when I use chat GPT, I

708
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: work harder because I will write something from scratch, yeah

709
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: chat GPT, and then get its opinion and then just

710
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: kind of like me and you are going back and forth,

711
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: like the times when we would sit in your office

712
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: and just like workshop something we bounce it back and forth.

713
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: So by the time I'm done, it's like it's been

714
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: sent back and forth and I've redone it three times.

715
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: So in order to have that level of output, I

716
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: think you just gotta let your your you know, default

717
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: mode network work for you. Had a great conversation with

718
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: someone that I think you'd love. She did a TED talk.

719
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: Her name is Suzann Bureau, and she's an executive coach,

720
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: and she was just talking about how nothing's ever wasted,

721
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: like how everything gives you tools and insights because like

722
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: all the information you're learning, what ninety percent of it

723
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 3: is not original. You know, you pick up a book,

724
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: somebody else has said something like that. But the way

725
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: it's it's explained, the way it's delivered and communicated, that's

726
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: important and that comes from your personal experience. And she

727
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: talks about her family owned a barber shop and he

728
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: was a horrible barber, like she used to like cut

729
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: people's ears and stuff, horrible, but they loved her and

730
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: she learned more about business and leadership working in a

731
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: barber shop than anywhere else. Yeah, I just I just

732
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: love talking to this lady. I thought she was just

733
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: like one. I found her very gracious, and she was

734
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: like really intelligent and in say it FORUL and that's

735
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: that's hermetic.

736
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And you think about like I

737
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: think back about when I had my gyms and my

738
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: big one on the highway, which was, you know, ten

739
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: thousand square feet, and a bunch of whole bunch of trainers,

740
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: and I would say fifteen cent of my trainers had

741
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: a tertiary qualification, an undergrade degree or honors or masters.

742
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: A couple had two guys I think had PhDs, right,

743
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: but the bulk of my trainers were sirt three and

744
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: cirt for qualified, so industry qualified and short registered all

745
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: that stuff. But while very smart and very capable, you

746
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't call any of them really academics, which is not

747
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: good or bad. That's just for most of them. A

748
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: lot of my early life I was didn't know one

749
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: end of the university or a bloody whatever from whatever.

750
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: Like I didn't go to any until I was thirty six,

751
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: so I was very pro academic. But the funny thing

752
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: is the more often than not, and this is not

753
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 2: a slight on anyone who goes to or went to UNI,

754
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: but more often than not, my best trainers were those

755
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: that just happened to be They could read the room,

756
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: they could read people, they could build rapport and connection

757
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: and trust, and people loved them. And they were funny

758
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: and they were consistent, and they came to really genuinely

759
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: care about and understand their clients, and there was nothing

760
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: transactional about the relationship. And the irony is that those

761
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: guys who didn't try to make more money or create

762
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: better systems or it's like a couple of them would

763
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: come up to me and they go, here's my new

764
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: cancelation policy. What do you think. I'm like, well, sure, sure,

765
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: you can't really endorse that, by the way, but you know,

766
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: if you've got someone who trains with you, like back

767
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: even when we closed or earlier, it was sixty bucks

768
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: an hour, right, So if you've got someone who trains

769
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: with you three days a week, two hundred and eighty dollars,

770
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 2: your times that by a year, that's nine thousand dollars.

771
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: I go, if you really want to change train or charge,

772
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: I should say. You know, Donna sixty bucks because her

773
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: kid had like a throat infection in the middle of

774
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: the night, was thrown up and they only gave you

775
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: three hours, not twelve hours cancelation, and in the context

776
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: of the relationship that I think you've built with that person,

777
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: and also the nine grand they're spending with you this year,

778
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: And I go, sure, I guess you can do that,

779
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: but that is so fucking stupid. And the fact that

780
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: you don't realize that stupid that worries me, you know,

781
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: And oh, but you've got to have otherwise people just

782
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: maybe I think the whole idea of absolute inflexible rules

783
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: and you know, policies depending on the situation. Of course,

784
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: in my situation, I'm like, hey, dude, if you want

785
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: to fuck up your business, just start being like a

786
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: stickler for policy. Fuck policy. Like if somebody is just

787
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: a dickhead who doesn't turn up, get rid of them.

788
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: I got rid of a bunch of clients. I just

789
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: go make this thing going to work. Because you're not serious,

790
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: have a great life, you know, no animosity. Just I'm

791
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: not training you, but you need to be able to

792
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: just read people, love people, care about people, or don't

793
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: do this job because if this job is only about money,

794
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: you will never do great because people will get it,

795
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: people will know what you're about.

796
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: It boggles my mind how many people do not get that.

797
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: And now, first let me just say, when you're running

798
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: a business, cancelation policies are necessary and they're fair, but

799
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: so is being a human and taking into consideration context.

800
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: Every policy you implement is to serve the business and

801
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: to serve your members. Don't let your policies consume your principles.

802
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: Very very clear with that, because you know, I think

803
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: with the way the world is going today, and god,

804
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: now I sound like an old guy ranting, so apologies,

805
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: that's exactly what I am. You think about it.

806
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: You are not fucking twenty. So when you go, I

807
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: sound like an old guy, lack of awareness. You're an

808
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: old guy.

809
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: So so here's here's an old guy rant thank you.

810
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: One thing that I am seeing as a trend is

811
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: when when I first got into the I don't want

812
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: to say working world. I got into the working world

813
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: at age ten. You know, illegal child labor, but it

814
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: was all right, it was Brooklyn.

815
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: What was first job at ten?

816
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: All right?

817
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: Do you know want that?

818
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: It was literally a shit job. So my job when

819
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: I was ten is I got a job working in

820
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: a basement for a small operation that made you remember

821
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: wheat grass, the health drink It yeah, okay, and so.

822
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: We had still pretty Melbourne by the way.

823
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh is it okay? And ever since I was ten

824
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 3: years old, I fucking hate wheat grass and I had

825
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: these fluorescent lights and it would grow the grass. And

826
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: my job was to.

827
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Put gloves.

828
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: I had to stick my hands in a vata manure.

829
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: Oh god, that is child.

830
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: And I was the manure. No, that was the best

831
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: part of the job because I had these nice long

832
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: gloves on. So it's stunk like hell. It was disgusting.

833
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: But then I had to go out in the hot

834
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: like I mean, New York City summers are oppressive. I

835
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: mean it is hot and sticky. It is disgusting. And

836
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: I had to take all of the old manure trees

837
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: and I had to stuff them into these giant bins.

838
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: And then my boss, to save room in the bins,

839
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: was like, okay, you're gonna climb up and get inside

840
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: the bin and stomp all those trays down. So now

841
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm inside of this we call them giant dumpsters, and

842
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm stepping and compressing tons of shit. And then I

843
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: had to jump out of that go back and mix

844
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: more shit than take those trains. I did that all day,

845
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: all day, Like I think I was getting paid something

846
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: stupid like three or five dollars an hour, not a

847
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: lot of money.

848
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: You were hand Firstly, how the fuck have I never

849
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: heard this story? That is the best and worst story

850
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: you've ever told. Why were you not at school?

851
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Well it was the summertime, and then there was after school,

852
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: and you know, like my stepfather, he was like you

853
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: always always, no matter what, need to have a job.

854
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: Now he didn't take his own advice, but for me

855
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: very important that I always have a job, and so

856
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: I always did. When I was twelve years old, I

857
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: would have worked twelve to fifteen hour days at a

858
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: catering hall in Coney Island. And that place was that

859
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: was a very interesting place. I'm actually very grateful for

860
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: it because I learned a lot of valuable lessons that

861
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: shape me. But I always had these really these rough jobs.

862
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: But when I got into my career where oh you

863
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna I'm gonna be here for a while.

864
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: I have a future vision built around this.

865
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

866
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: I was always reminded. You know, when you leave here

867
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: tonight and you get into your car, like before you

868
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: start the car, have a thought, and you had thank you,

869
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: thank you, mister missus member, for paying for this car.

870
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: When you go home, turn on the lights, thank your

871
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: customer that your electric bills paid, and thank them for

872
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: the roof over your head. Because clients pay for this

873
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: shit and that should show you their place in our organization.

874
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: And I'm seeing a shift to where it's almost like,

875
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: and I agree with this, if you're a shitty customer,

876
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: you need to go. If you're an abusive customer, you

877
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: probably needs to fuck off. But it's almost like the

878
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: customer is indebted to the person providing the service. And

879
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: I think that's a little bit that's a little bit unbalanced. Y.

880
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: I think if you the late great Michael Scott Scudder

881
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: said this to me, and it was about a business

882
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: I really cared about, so it really landed. He's not

883
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: been with us for many years, but Michael Scott Scudder

884
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: was who's a friend of mine, and he said, imagine

885
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: if your business went way today, you and your customers

886
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: would be sad. There would be a loss your you're

887
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: you're contributing authors, your presenters.

888
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we would.

889
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: We would lose value, we'd lose a platform. We'd be okay, though,

890
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean we we'd crack on. But imagine that all

891
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: of your authors and your speakers and your customers went away,

892
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: you'd be finished.

893
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: So this is back when you had PETE Global right

894
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: where you were that he was this stage.

895
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly the stage. He wasn't talking about PTA Global,

896
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: but I was just.

897
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: I was trying to give our listeners an understand sense.

898
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: What because they're going, what do he means? Like? Yeah,

899
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't make sense if you don't know the

900
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: business you're talking about.

901
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: So in any business, if you think about if you

902
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 3: think about your internal customers, your employees, should think about

903
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 3: all of your vendors. You think about obviously your customers.

904
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: If they went away, you'd be done. There is nothing

905
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: you can do but go out of business. So when

906
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: you think about this, that should probably frame how you communicate.

907
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 3: I think in today's day and age, more than more

908
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 3: than any other time since I've been alive, if you

909
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: do two things, just two things, you will separate yourself

910
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: from ninety five percent of the people. Number One, develop

911
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: communication skills, be able to communicate in a meeting, on stage,

912
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: in a coaching session, be a masterful community or you

913
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: know what, forget being a masterful communicator. Be a very

914
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: good communicator, and you'll separate yourself from ninety five percent

915
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 3: of people. The other thing is actively give a shit care,

916
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 3: put your care into action, and you will stand out.

917
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: Even with that. The cammunication one, it doesn't have to

918
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: be as a presenter or you know. It could be

919
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, doing your retail job. It could be selling

920
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: shirts or shoes. It could be that you own a

921
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: cleaning business and you've got to manage ten cleaners, or

922
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: you're one of the cleaners and you know it. I mean,

923
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 2: life is interaction, Life is conversation, life is relationships, and

924
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: just that irrespective, even if you don't have a job

925
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: per se, it still matters in life and socialization and

926
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: connection and conflict resolution and problem solving and teamwork and leadership.

927
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: It's like there's pretty much no area of life that's

928
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: intersecting with another human where communication is not paramount, So

929
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, in and outside of the workspace. I think

930
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 2: that's like I'm with you, it's if you're a good communicator.

931
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: My third one that I would add on that is

932
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: which kind of ties in with being a good communicator

933
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: is understanding other people. I just think so many people

934
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: don't try to understand a perspective or a mindset, or

935
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: a concept or an idea or a theology or a

936
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: whatever that isn't theirs, Which is not to say understanding

937
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: is not aligning, and understanding is not agreeing. It's just

938
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: what we're trying to do is have insight into how

939
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: other people are so that we can build that well.

940
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: From here, I can communicate with you better because I

941
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: understand you. I might not agree with you, but I

942
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: understand you, so ah, tell people where they can go on,

943
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: go on.

944
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into this. I'll just say

945
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: this is my bias. Yes, When you do these things,

946
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: to hear a lot of like, oh, well, they don't

947
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 3: pay me enough to do this, or I'm not doing

948
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: this for this company, not for that boss. I don't

949
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: think you do it for your boss. I think you

950
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: do this for yourself. And I think anything that makes

951
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: you more valuable to a client or a customer or

952
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: makes you a better I want to say employee, because

953
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: a lot of ways that makes you better at your craft.

954
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: I think also makes you a happier and more resilient

955
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: person no matter how bad things are when you are

956
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: connecting with other people, because you really care about them.

957
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: When you are conscientious about communication, and when you have

958
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: a habit of continually learning and growing around areas that

959
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: are relevant to what it is you want to be

960
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: and have and do. It only builds resistance. It doesn't

961
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: add weight. It alleviates, it unburdens you.

962
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: True that brother, Robert the self help Antidote, I'm going

963
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: to tell you is the name of Bobby's show. Uh

964
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: and I'm going to say, Robertcapuccio dot com. Is that

965
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: the website?

966
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: No, yes, that's that's that's one of my websites. The

967
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: other one, the other one is the self Help Antidote

968
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: dot com. Which makes it very simple.

969
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Just don't send him a message on Instagram because he

970
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 2: won't get it because he's not looking at it. Maybe

971
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: send him a carrier pigeon. I'll get back to you

972
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: a week from now a brief note, or I might

973
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: well talk off here, but as always, love catching up

974
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: with you.

975
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you everyone,