WEBVTT - Are Our Listeners The A**holes? (AITA Dilemmas Edition)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to first things First, I'm Maddie Mills. My pronouns

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<v Speaker 1>are he and him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Brook Blatton and my pronouns are she and her.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the

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<v Speaker 1>custodians of the land on which we record, and today

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Gatigal people of the urination.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, it's a rendering people of the coolin nations.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I started this thing recently because I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>takes me about five minutes right to get my car

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<v Speaker 3>out of my garage.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>The car lift yright, and it's so funny because people

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<v Speaker 3>think it's so unhinged. So I was like, well, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the perfect time to tell people about my unhinged

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<v Speaker 3>stories doing in my car lift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does take about five minutes, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I started that today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna, you know, gather up some stories because fuck

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<v Speaker 3>do I have some stories, and I'm just gonna occasionally

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<v Speaker 3>post one of them to my Carliff thoughts. I love

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<v Speaker 3>this and it had me thinking like how fucking funny

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<v Speaker 3>is when people will actually relate to your stories or

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<v Speaker 3>they have had the same thing happened to you. M

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it blows my mind that people out here

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<v Speaker 3>doing these on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, what made you? I mean, you've obviously like had

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of experience with dating. Do they mostly come

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<v Speaker 1>from dating dating?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, like I also, you know, maybe when I

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<v Speaker 3>was younger, I had unhinged things. Like once I was

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<v Speaker 3>walking home from my job, I was working at Target. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just bought my lay by you know how

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<v Speaker 3>you'd lay by things and you'd spend every week.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, paying it off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I was so excited about all these like

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<v Speaker 3>I had this like fur jacket, this coat, like this skirt,

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<v Speaker 3>like all these clothes, right, because I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Love clothes, luxury, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know this is why I was very interested

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<v Speaker 3>in fashion, Like I love Clothes' been to my house,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fucking every wardrobe is full, even the spare

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<v Speaker 3>room and the office.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and I got mobbed by three girls. So

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<v Speaker 2>they followed me.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me this story.

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<v Speaker 2>They ripped my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>We called me back in La. Yes, I just had

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<v Speaker 1>a flashback to walking down the street in La. You

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<v Speaker 1>telling me this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Memories, yeah, memories.

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<v Speaker 3>Well then yeah, they ripped me Basically, I got on

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<v Speaker 3>the bus because it was the last the last bus,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like nine thirty on a Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>God who was learning a fifteen year old?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, another story, catch the bus and I had these

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<v Speaker 3>girls jump on the bus and they were real like

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<v Speaker 3>now real rats, look hood rats, you know, like real

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<v Speaker 3>hood rat. And I'm like, you know, no no hate,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can tell. And they'll yelling out to peace

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<v Speaker 3>and like being really rude and swearing and smoking.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was a little bit scared.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, if I'm being honest, I remember that little scared

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<v Speaker 3>person I was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Put your head down, put your headphones in. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that's when you had like cord headphones and an MP

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<v Speaker 3>three yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, fuck, this is this? What are

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<v Speaker 2>they gonna do?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, I didn't realize, so I got off the bus

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<v Speaker 3>and they ended up getting off at the same stop

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<v Speaker 3>as me, okay, and I fucking freaked out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I'm like something's gonna happen here. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just started swiftly walking away. Then all of a sudden, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got my hair ripped. I dropped my bag, my

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder bag as well. Everything sort of fell on the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>I got started getting kicked into, punched. They were like

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<v Speaker 3>saying horrible things to me, and then ended up basically

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<v Speaker 3>taking my lay by bag and my bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually luckily I had my.

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<v Speaker 1>Phone, so you got beaten them robbed.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much my first time ever being monked when I

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<v Speaker 3>was fifteen. But that's fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Unhinged, right, like unhinged aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally got home, I walked through the door, my

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<v Speaker 3>step mumas and I was just like, oh god.

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<v Speaker 1>Mob and spent weeks and weeks saving up for that lay.

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<v Speaker 1>By the day you get it out, you get mobbed.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? What did the universe having store for

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<v Speaker 1>you that day?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the chances?

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<v Speaker 1>It's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, anyways, so I've got a few unhinged stories

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<v Speaker 3>at my up my sleeve, but I also have a

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<v Speaker 3>few that people have been willing to share with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love this spill the tea. What have some things?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what things have happened in people's lives that are juicy?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this one's a dating one, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just like classic, you know, fucking relevant and

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<v Speaker 3>so relatable. Okay, Okay, so this, she says, this a

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<v Speaker 3>girl is coming from a girl and it's her. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>she says, my boyfriend and I have been dating for

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<v Speaker 3>two years. That's long times y, and we've been living

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<v Speaker 3>together for the past eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>He used to clean up after himself around the house,

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<v Speaker 3>but about four months ago he just stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is he paying rent?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the mess that he's as follows is wet

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<v Speaker 3>food in the sink from not cleaning his plate, dirty dishes,

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<v Speaker 3>piled up.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, fucking kick him out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done, Okay, get nope, to the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to give this follow a fair shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Garbage everywhere or never taken out. That's my pet.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope doesn't wash his own clothes, gets take out with

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<v Speaker 3>me whenever he works from home, and just leaves the rubbish.

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<v Speaker 2>In his office slob.

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<v Speaker 3>So I stop doing things for him as I was

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<v Speaker 3>feeling a little bit like there was an imbalance with

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<v Speaker 3>chores and now he's refusing to do anything. I told

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<v Speaker 3>him to clean up this weekend or I'm breaking up

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<v Speaker 3>with him and moving out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so she's given him the ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did not see that. I thought she was

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<v Speaker 3>going to sound like she'd give him. There's too many things.

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<v Speaker 3>There's too many wet food and the sink nah dorty dishes,

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<v Speaker 3>nap garbage everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuh okay, Well, let me tell you something. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first eight months. Oh what did she say? So he

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<v Speaker 1>has been we've been living together for the past eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to clean up after himself, but about four

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<v Speaker 1>months ago he stopped, so he was he sort of

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<v Speaker 1>showed aside to him for the first four months. That

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<v Speaker 1>was probably a little bit of a facade. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>really who he is. That's not really his values or

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<v Speaker 1>his morals or the way that he handles his life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just to impress her. Once he started to

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<v Speaker 1>see that she would probably clean up after him, He's gone, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take off for a ride. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like I would if I was living by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's see if she, you know, cleans up after me.

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<v Speaker 2>Blood boiling.

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<v Speaker 3>I can feel my blood boiling, because you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>there's this whole mentality thing and women need to stop

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<v Speaker 3>doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But all my sisters need to stop doing this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the thing of Oh I'll just do it. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that, stop doing it, don't do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And then yeah, it's obviously very appropriate to anyone

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<v Speaker 3>who is maybe the more I guess motivated or initiative,

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<v Speaker 3>use their initiative the most.

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<v Speaker 2>But it fucking infuriates me because.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much our mums have taught that from a young

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<v Speaker 3>age too, pretty much with young boys, but I guess

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<v Speaker 3>just in families in homes as well, it's like pick

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<v Speaker 3>up after yourself and if they don't, fuck it, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just do it myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, stop doing it. Yeah, I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>scenario you have to look at what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>accept in life. Like, for instance, this fuller obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty person and he doesn't like to clean up

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<v Speaker 1>after himself. He doesn't really care about the cleanliness of

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<v Speaker 1>the house. He's lazy. Their character traits. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you need to look at him for what he's showing you,

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<v Speaker 1>not his words, but his actions. Is this the type

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<v Speaker 1>of person that you want to have a kid with.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he going to lift his fair weight in a relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. I don't think that it should be a

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<v Speaker 1>case of I'm going to break up with you if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't clean. It should be having a conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>you start to notice things, don't let it get to

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<v Speaker 1>this point where you're feeling like, Okay, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>break up with you if you don't pick up your slack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you need to have a conversation. See if

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<v Speaker 1>those conversations shift the dial. If it doesn't, then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got things to base your breakup on, not just one conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think she's left it too long. Now she's

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<v Speaker 1>giving him an ultimatum. She should have done something in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. But I think she should look at him

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<v Speaker 1>and see this as a reflection of who he is

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<v Speaker 1>and if that's not the type of person she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be with, Tatar so your uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well exactly, bye, Sia.

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<v Speaker 3>But then if she if he doesn't do it, like

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<v Speaker 3>she should be saying like, okay, well that's it. But

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<v Speaker 3>then he should be saying, oh, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>be with her. I'm going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Like absolutely, you have to give someone the chance to

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<v Speaker 1>show you that they can, that they that they respect

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<v Speaker 1>you enough to want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give him.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I will say is that if this person

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<v Speaker 1>does this in their day to day life. It is

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<v Speaker 1>probably a behavior that's been learned over a long period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and it's going to take a little while

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<v Speaker 1>for him to change. It's not something that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen overnight. So I feel like he probably if he

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<v Speaker 1>loves her and he wants to show her respect and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't even respect himself, I don't know how it

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<v Speaker 1>can show her respect.

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<v Speaker 3>But it sounds like he can't even wash brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sounds like it sounds like a lazy person who

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<v Speaker 1>needs a hobby and needs some stimulation in life. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he's almost depressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I live by myself, and I have lived by

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<v Speaker 3>myself for a while. When I'm busy and i'm a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit maybe overwhelmed, I might do these things. Not

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<v Speaker 3>to that extent, like absolutely, not to that extent, but

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<v Speaker 3>I might, Like last night, I had soup for dinner

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<v Speaker 3>and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Dishwasher needed it was washed, and I just needed to

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<v Speaker 2>unstack it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna leave

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<v Speaker 3>my play in the sink and I'll unstack the dish

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning and then I'll restock it. But things

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<v Speaker 3>like that, right, But I live by myself, so I

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<v Speaker 3>have nothing to prove, but in saying that, if someone

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<v Speaker 3>else and I had to be courteous to someone else

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<v Speaker 3>in the house, I would unstuck that dishwasher and I

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<v Speaker 3>would put that dish back in the dishwasher. But I

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<v Speaker 3>have no one to account for, like I have no

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<v Speaker 3>one to respect because it's my space.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm respecting myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, if you look at your behavior over a

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<v Speaker 1>long period of time, I'm sure that you're consistent in

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<v Speaker 1>being clean and tidy, you know, having a little slip

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<v Speaker 1>up here, having a lazy day here, not putting the

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<v Speaker 1>dishes away one day, who cares. But if it constantly happens,

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<v Speaker 1>like in this scenario where he's absolutely doing nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>leaving everything when it comes to the domestic chores for

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<v Speaker 1>his woman, Like that is lazy, That is like disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also just like disgusting, Like take the rubbish out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do your own linse.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my love language. If some someone literally it's mine too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when Dad was staying here the week, and I'd wake

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<v Speaker 3>up and you know, Dad's already been up for maybe

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<v Speaker 3>two hours doing his beautiful prayers, little angel that he

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<v Speaker 3>is bless, you know, he's gone for a walk, taken

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<v Speaker 3>cober bring brings back a coffee for me. Am, I

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<v Speaker 3>I'm lucky girl. And he takes the bin out nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't even say anything, doesn't do anything, and I got

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<v Speaker 3>to put something in the bin and it's clean and

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<v Speaker 3>it's full, it's empty, and I'm like, oh my god, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love language exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the gym on a Saturday morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>come home every Saturday morning. While I'm at the gym, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>my partner, is cleaning. And it's like, because I normally

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<v Speaker 1>do a clean on a Wednesday while he's at work,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do them be week clean, like a thorough clean,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would do a weekend clean. So I get up,

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the gym. I come back on a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>a Saturday morning. The house is sparkly. I walk in

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a different energy. It's like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is so nice. It's like it's a it's a way

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<v Speaker 1>to show respect for your partner. And he cleans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his job. So he cleans all week and then

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday morning still does it. Yeah, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>like a little, you know, way of respecting each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Way when he's busy during the week. I'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>on a Wednesday. Wednesday's my day, Saturday's Tuesday. It gets done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a you know, a really sharing of

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<v Speaker 1>the load, which is respect in a relationship. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think she needs to look at him, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>see that, you know, unless he's going through something what

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<v Speaker 1>if No, that's note.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna give him the benefit of doubt, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you can notice when someone's mental health

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely decreasing by the level.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also like reach.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got your partner there, you've got support there,

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<v Speaker 3>that something is going on, communicate or like try to

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<v Speaker 3>at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was to give him the benefit of doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, girl, you deserve better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be the asshole. But he's a asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she needs to have a hard, hard yarm

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<v Speaker 1>with him. If he improves and he shows that, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that. Okay, give him the benefit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give them benefit of the doubt to show you that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to change over time. But if he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I work all week, you should be cleaning,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid.

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<v Speaker 2>Of him see ya see yah bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have another scenario. Am I the asshole

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<v Speaker 1>for not wanting to babysit my nephew? Ooh I like this? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So this person works in childcare, specifically before the kids

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<v Speaker 1>go into their primary schools, and because of my career choice,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister tends to look down on me and think

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm just a glorified babysitter. Oh that means me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She also happens to expect me to babysit my five

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<v Speaker 1>year old nephew whenever she needs. I only work three

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<v Speaker 1>days a week and study to finish my apprenticeship the

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<v Speaker 1>other two. So technically, yes, I am at home those days,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do have space for my house to look

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<v Speaker 1>after him. But I really don't want to be around

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<v Speaker 1>kids on my days off. Understandable. My sister has since

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<v Speaker 1>stopped talking to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what hush.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister in law is a manager at a childcare

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<v Speaker 3>center okay, and I have never seen someone work so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard as much as it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she is not.

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<v Speaker 3>A glorified babysitter. I hate that people undermine.

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<v Speaker 1>Childcare, so do I.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is, it's the most required thing in

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<v Speaker 3>order for people parents.

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<v Speaker 1>To work, absolutely, like what the fuck? And also, those

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<v Speaker 1>kids spend a lot of time with you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>childcare workers, and it's the way that they're shaped, you know, those.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the most valuable years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, childcare workers put in a lot of work and

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<v Speaker 3>do a lot of training to provide that care.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't Yeah, I don't agree with this girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with her either, but still the sister,

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<v Speaker 1>the sister, Yeah, I don't agree with her because I

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<v Speaker 1>also feel like if somebody doesn't want to babysit your

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<v Speaker 1>child or doesn't have the time or exactly, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to boundaries not judge them. Yeah, but that's your kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, if you're desperate desperate.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, But if you're like just playing that desperate card

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, absolutely not. And if you're playing the

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<v Speaker 3>sister card like, oh well it's your nephew too, Like no,

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would. I would, you know, babysit my

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<v Speaker 3>nephew anytime. But if I did have things on which

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<v Speaker 3>I would say work or things like whatever, then I

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<v Speaker 3>would just say that, yeah, you know, prioritize work. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I suggest with this girl, like to

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<v Speaker 3>put in those healthy boundaries with your sister, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she obviously is not respecting your work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you what does she do? What

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<v Speaker 2>does she do?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? I think I think the sister

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<v Speaker 1>needs to, you know, look at the like she's making

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<v Speaker 1>really extreme decisions based on her sister not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, babysit, like to stop talking to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it's emotional manipulation.

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<v Speaker 1>Emotional manipulas, right, yes, yes, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a fucking therapist, but fuck I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a step mom that fucking emotionally abused me

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<v Speaker 3>by doing the silent treatment for many years. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not it's not okay because now it interrupts your relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>And how you deal with conflict. It pretty much you

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<v Speaker 2>gain shitty.

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<v Speaker 3>Self esteem from it because you're stuck with your own

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<v Speaker 3>fucking thoughts because you think, oh, that person hates me

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<v Speaker 3>because she doesn't want to talk to me. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's really unfair. And I don't think it's really

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<v Speaker 3>fair for your sister to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my own opinion. That's my own opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you're an asshole for not wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to babysit your nephew on your days off.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, take.

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<v Speaker 1>Your time away, you know, that's that's your space.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's the dad too, where's the mum or dad whatever

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<v Speaker 3>a parent? Where's the other parent? I get single moms

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<v Speaker 3>like one hundred percent. Like I grew up with a

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<v Speaker 3>single mom. I know how hard it is, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>helping to your best, but it's like, if there's a

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<v Speaker 3>father in here or someone another parent, where are they?

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<v Speaker 1>I think also the fact that she expects her to

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<v Speaker 1>babysit her five year old nephew whenever she needs, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not cool. Like these things need to be spoken about,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to be scheduled in. Obviously there are moments

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<v Speaker 1>where there's an emergency. Yeah, help your sister out, But

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to put your life on hold for

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<v Speaker 1>your sister. You don't have to, you know, rearrange your

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<v Speaker 1>life just so that you can please your sister. Your

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<v Speaker 1>sister has to deal with this and figure it out herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, that's what she has.

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<v Speaker 1>Other friends agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>Schedule I reckon if you want to say, your sister,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a single mom and she needs help, and she

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<v Speaker 3>just wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Her own time. I'm sure you would. The person who's

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<v Speaker 2>written in would say, yeah, okay, that's pretty reasonable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to because it's been communicated, been discussed, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's been scheduled in for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was at my cousin's thirtieth birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm Nelly thirty recently, where I met someone who

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<v Speaker 3>I felt immod attracted to. I love that feeling, that's like, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, turns out the feeling was mutual.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck, that's a sleigh because we spent the entire party laughing, chatting,

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<v Speaker 3>and just enjoying each other's company. Yep, say, I have

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<v Speaker 3>not felt this way about someone, or have felt such

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<v Speaker 3>an immediate spark with someone so quickly before.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The only hitch is that this person is my cousin's

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<v Speaker 3>cousin on the other side of the family, so we're

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<v Speaker 3>not technically related by blood only marriage. Okay, They've asked

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<v Speaker 3>me out to dinner to really fancy, nice restaurant and

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<v Speaker 3>said they want.

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<v Speaker 1>To spoil me and get to know me well dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if this is wrong or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it okay to date my cousin cousin? M I know,

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<v Speaker 3>because what if they get married, because they know the

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<v Speaker 3>cousins are going to be at your wedding, but as cousins,

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<v Speaker 3>not as a cousin's cousins.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like see, this is the biggest dilemma in the mobs

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<v Speaker 3>because you will wave double check your family tree and

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you're not dating your cousin cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look, I don't see an issue with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't. I think it's a little bit hard to

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<v Speaker 1>at first grapple with because there's such a close connection

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of, you know, through marriage. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see anything wrong with it. If it's your cousin's cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's okay, Like you're not if you

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<v Speaker 1>have kids, they're not going to come out with three arms,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not that vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's it's not even that as well,

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<v Speaker 3>like the gene defects. It's the principle for me, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>how did you guys meet? Oh, cousin's wedding? The fuck

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<v Speaker 3>both of your cousins?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What a good story? No great story.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, there's plenty of fish in the sea girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But she hasn't they haven't felt this spark ever in

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<v Speaker 1>their life, Like, sorry it's loud, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't help, but sorry I had in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, no, they haven't felt this spark ever, and

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't happen much like if there's a fire cracker

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<v Speaker 1>moment in your life, enjoy it, go to the nice restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe fuck, but you don't need to get married, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the moment for what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, yeah, I agree with you, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just wouldn't myself.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't need to plenty, doesn't need to put a

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<v Speaker 1>ring on it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but could just be a quick fuck and then

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<v Speaker 3>you can say that never have I ever fucked my cousin?

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<v Speaker 1>How nice would that be? Go to it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a cousin, it's a cousin's cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how many layers in a temassou.

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<v Speaker 3>Today?

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<v Speaker 1>I just, I seriously think that it's not an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>You enjoy the fantasy, go and have your cavia and

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<v Speaker 1>then your cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, You.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what that's disgusting?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>You do your cousin's cousin. Look, it's a conundrum.

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<v Speaker 3>And wait, it's I don't even think it's cis. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's it's non gender, so it could be a

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<v Speaker 3>guy as well. Okay, the lesbian environment is very instuous

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<v Speaker 3>as well, so I probably stuck with my cousin's cousins

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<v Speaker 3>cousins as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you do you think you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably?

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of my first boyfriends in year eight

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<v Speaker 3>was my cousin, but we only held hands.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so funny because the girl my first girlfriend seven,

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<v Speaker 1>her name was Nikita, and she was my cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we have dated that cousin and I had.

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<v Speaker 1>To step up. I had to step up on the

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<v Speaker 1>guard to kiss her because she was really tall.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm recy used to live the street behind my

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<v Speaker 2>house and so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a kissing cousin. Oh lord, oh god, I kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>My You know there's cults out there for that.

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<v Speaker 1>In Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, moving on, we're so problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, why do we do like a little game? Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we do like a quick fire dilemma game?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go on? Then, okay, what are the.

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<v Speaker 1>First one I think about or comes to mind? Is

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>kids at weddings? Now that's quick.

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<v Speaker 2>I love kids, you know what. I love kids?

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<v Speaker 1>But no, not enough obviously, not at weddings.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, unless the child of the people

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 3>that are getting married. Yeah, all right now, so we

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<v Speaker 3>so no babies. I don't want babies. I don't want

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 3>little I don't know. Open ceremony, like if it was

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 3>an open ceremony to you got biggest one family, like

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:09.919
<v Speaker 3>a Greek family.

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<v Speaker 1>Open casket.

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 2>It's a wedding, not a funerally.

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Open casket. And I was like, oh, what about kids

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>at funerals?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that's hard because I was a kid having

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.680
<v Speaker 3>to go to a funeral my mom.

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But you would want to be a part of it

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, right, Like you wouldn't want to miss

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that moment in terms of your life memories.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, exactly.

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you have?

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 2>None?

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Disabled people using disabled toilets. I've gone in the toilet before.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really bad about this one. It is my

0:23:56.320 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>preferred choice, so much cleaner, it's so much clean up,

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like I'm in my private little sanctuary

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>doing a poo in the shopping center.

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I just want to go, go and I'll

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 2>be out there as soon as you were. You won't

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 2>even notice me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it scares me, says this door will unlock in

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes. What if it takes longer to do a

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>ship than fifteen minutes.

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, then you're just gonna have to open do a

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 3>snap off, wipe your bum, and then close the door again.

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Cut that turtle head off and go you're all fucked.

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm done.

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>What's the next one?

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.959
<v Speaker 2>It's flirting with someone? No talking? So talking to your

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>ex when you're okay, this is good.

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>It is relevant to me, so I love it.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, talking to your ex when you're in a new relationship.

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what what do you think about this? I want

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to know? Or your partner talking to their X while

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship. I I don't know.

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 3>This is like so hard because like I had no

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I had therapy this morning, and I'm like kind of

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 3>exploring something else with someone new, the same.

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Person, just to saying anything.

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 2>If you didn't listen to the last episode, Maddy roasted me.

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 2>But what's next? Anyways?

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 3>And I realized that I'm actually still so emotionally attached

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 3>to my ex and that relationship. So I haven't really

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 3>been able to move on in the new relationship because

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 3>I haven't closed that door or that chapter, and so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Well I had that conversation with not with my ex

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 3>because I haven't really spoken to him, but with you know,

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 3>my new relationship, where I've been like pretty honest and

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 3>just said, like I went to therapy and this has

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of come up, and this is actually how I've

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 3>been feeling because I.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Haven't actually been able to be intimate with my new.

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Relationship for the last three because I've been really struggling

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 3>to explore intimacy. And I was like, this is so

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 3>unheard of for me, like so unusual, like you know,

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 3>but it's because I'm still so emotionally attached to my ex,

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 3>which is shitty, and you know, it's like it hurts,

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 3>but it's like I have to grieve that relationship first

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 3>and then be able to move on.

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>So totally.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So yeah, I don't think it's a good thing.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, Well, look, I'm in a tricky position.

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I am with a boyfriend who does talk to their ex,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's become less and less and less as we've

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>become tighter in our relationship.

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask why does he talk to him?

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, his relationship with his ex.

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk bad about it. But like

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was quite tumultuous. I think that it

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>was a tough relationship. But I think that his ex

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 1>really helped him change his life. You know, he was

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>able to create this new world in Australia for his

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>life and be able to live a brand new life

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>because he, you know, was a partner with a partner

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>who was able to give him a visa. Yeah, and

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I think they had something special. But obviously it didn't

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>work out. And I can understand why it didn't work out.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>And I totally get it that it's never going to

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>happen again, Like I know that, but I've I struggled

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the beginning with the fact that

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, he having communication, communicating, but when I met Denny,

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Denny was still sleeping in the same bed as his ex.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Denny was still in the house they were living together.

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>There was, you know, a tricky sort of connection there

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that I was unaware of or aware of. I was

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 1>very aware. I was very aware it was all happening.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>But you were just fine with that or did you

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>just understand the situation?

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And I understood the situation. I also wasn't totally invested

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>in thinking that I would be with Danny.

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Why I in the same bed though, Well, I think it.

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Was the living circumstances, you know, But I think, you know,

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 1>whatever that was is done. But I know that they

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>still are in contact. And look, I've become more mature

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. I've been like, if anything was to happen,

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I truly believe that, Like, if you

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>can have him, have him. But I got that's my mindset.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I truly believe that I've got to a point

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in my life and my existence that I'm really content

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>with who I am. And I know that I am

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>an amazing partner.

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>So if you know, if my partner talks to their

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend, and I'm not saying I'm ever going to

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>be happy with them being best friends, no, but if

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>they're going to communicate, I don't even want to stress

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>about it because like, if anything goes on, or if

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>anything bad happens, or if they cross any boundaries, I'd

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>be more happy just to step aside to try and

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>fight for something that is going to hurt me. So

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel really content about my position in that scenario.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>That's good.

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 3>That's a really good way of looking at things. And

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess just like to show maturity. And I guess

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 3>every relationship is so different, Like, you know, there's not

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 3>one way of having a relationship with someone. And you know,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>when you're together, you have you've loved one another previously

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>in another life.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>You can still love that person, but you're just not

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>in love with them, so you still care about those relationships.

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't talk to Paul on a regular basis. I

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>don't communicate with him. I think that that's been good

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>for both of us. We had such a strong connection,

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>strong love that I feel like, you know what, leave

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that in the past, and I've done that because I've

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>been able to focus on moving on. Is that not

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that I don't want to talk to him. I just

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's not it's not meant.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But then also, this is a thing.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Look at both of your previous relationships and then look

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>at the relationship that you have with Danny, Like obviously

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 3>those experiences have made you, guys learn love better, love stronger,

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 3>and love it, you.

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Know, And we're not the same versions of ourselves in

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>this new relationship. We're actually showing up as completely different

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>versions of ourselves. And we realize that and we recognize

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it and we love the fact that we are not

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the same people who we were in our past, and

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's super important for our success. Yeah, I

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>love that.

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 2>That's good. All right.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>One more, refusing to attend a family event because of

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a homophobic or racist family member. I think that's valid,

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>so valid, But yeah.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>So can be so resolved. Well, no, you can just

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 2>call it out and you say that.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can going to continue to be racist and

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>homophobic or you're gonna, you know, cause an uncomfortableness for

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>every single person in our family because of you can't

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 3>figure your shit out.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I have sort of a like a two step or

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>three step process when it comes to situations like this.

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, first about it.

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>His first step is private. Do it privately. Hey, I

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>know this is the way that you're you're treating me,

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>or this is the remarks that you've said, I don't

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.719
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, wants you to stop m h. If they

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>don't or if they say no, that's just how I feel,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that's how I think, and they do it again. Yeah,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you can do it publicly in front of other people.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>You've given them an opportunity and then embarrass them. And

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>then if they don't do that if they don't, if

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they continue to do it, then just cut them off.

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>So in private, I did this in a play that

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I was in. Somebody said something racist to me. They

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>walked into the bathroom. I walked in after them, and

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, I need to speak to you in private.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>This is about before we're about to go on stage.

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I want to let you know that

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>what you said in there is not okay. I don't

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>know you well enough for you to be making jokes

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like that, and it's actually really racist. You need to stop.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>They apologized, and I felt like I was in Wentworth,

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, when they walk in the bathroom with the

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>ship and they're about to take them down. Put my

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>back up against the door and I was like, I've

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>got something to say.

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I would ship my pants and I was like, serious, Maddie.

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>But I serious, I've got someone to sign.

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Smart And that was right.

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>But they know that was my first step, and I thought, Okay,

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>if they do it again, I'm going to do it

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>publicly in the dressing room with everyone else and say

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call them out, and then if they

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>continue to do it, I'll just cut them off silent treatment.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Get the fuck out of my life. I don't want

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with you. So you get three chances.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>That's really big of you. So my brother dropped a

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>word that was quite offensive, not too not racist or yeah,

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>yes that one and the S one S.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>One and I these people want to talk, I know,

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and I call.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Them out and I do it publicly.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I said, I just literally say, do not fucking say

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>that word. It is very and highly offensive.

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. Like imagine.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 3>This is when he was baby was pregnant as well,

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 3>and I said, what if your kid comes out neuro divergent.

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 3>You're literally being offensive and saying all these things about

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 3>these people who have no choice in the matter, and

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 3>then your kid comes out in your OVID and you're

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty much gonna Is that gonna be?

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>K Oh? My god? Has he said it again?

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Good? That gives me strength to say to my brothers

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>when they say, I feel quite intimidated around that scenario,

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and I shouldn't be. I should because I was with

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>my brothers a couple of weeks ago.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Ahd am I are you a c DFD are you

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>x y Z? Are what do you be?

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I'm from the LGBTQ am I ADHD.

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Clearly I am today because fucking hell.

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm getting assessed. I'm getting assessed. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>got told that I might be autistic because I have

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<v Speaker 2>a very creative brain.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, right, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>What on that was my family's reaction when I told him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, they say that true, Yes, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>see that. Excuse me, why didn't tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know, but I'm not. I'm not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who can diagnose you, obviously, but I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>have a version of ADHD that is, like my brain

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop, so as soon as I finish one task,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like what do I have to do next? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that is just my personality, but

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<v Speaker 1>I constantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it could be the opposite as well, Like ADHD

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<v Speaker 3>could be the opposite where you can't finish tasks, you

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<v Speaker 3>start a million things. Yeah, yeah, it ADHD is obviously

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<v Speaker 3>they don't even say on the spectrum anymore, but you are.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is that could be high functioning to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, having it can have like impacts in your

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<v Speaker 3>life to do things in tasks, like daily tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hate people who all of a sudden come

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<v Speaker 1>out and be like I've got ADHD, like that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I did everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, no, I agree, but the thing is from

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<v Speaker 2>some responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I heard this girl talk, right, and she said,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of like I don't know what it's called, you

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<v Speaker 3>know where we're you know, people you know are jumping

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<v Speaker 3>on this bandwagon or whatever, it's like, well, maybe no,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we're just realizing that, like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are realizing that we've all had this, or like some

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<v Speaker 3>of most people have had this, We've just become aware

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<v Speaker 3>of it now, like you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like a matter of jumping on a band

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<v Speaker 3>so much more awareness. It's the same with mental health,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know what I mean. So yeah, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually literally getting accessed for both of those because my

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<v Speaker 3>sych says that normally when he talks to his clients,

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<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't get along with them as much as we

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<v Speaker 3>do in our conversations and not able to like converse

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<v Speaker 3>and and sort of jump around but still finish our sentences.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says that is a very close trait to.

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<v Speaker 3>Being near diversion, And OK, yeah, it's kind of interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>but I wouldn't be surprised Yeahessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We should talk more quick find dilemmas. If you have

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<v Speaker 3>your dilemma, you should email or send us a voice

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<v Speaker 3>note or send me a little DM Maddie DM.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, send us a voice note. We want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>how you really feel about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's that's a good idea. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>put it in a question box on both of our stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, hey, yes, love it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well that's actually all we have time for today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for listening to first things first,

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, send us those voice notes because I'll be so

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<v Speaker 3>handy for these little quick fire dilemmas that we have

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<v Speaker 3>and let us help you and solve them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't know how much help, but what

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do, we'll put.

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<v Speaker 2>Our therapy voices on, like what brings are you here today? Anyways?

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<v Speaker 3>and Maddie's handles that it's Maddie Mills and we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>you and speak to you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye on the next episode.