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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always

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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land High Chicks. I'm Out and I'm

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Speaker 1: sal And this is two Break Chicks, the show that

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Speaker 1: shares life lessons and tips to make you rich in life.

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Speaker 1: Today we're joined by Jilly Clark because the Beauty Court

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Speaker 1: is in session.

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Speaker 2: The Beauty Court is well and truly in session. Chicks.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: So excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Please right, I like photoshop one of those big court wigs.

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Speaker 2: For it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're here to chat because if you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen this incredible series Jilly is doing at the moment,

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Speaker 1: it's called Beauty Court is in session and we're breaking

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Speaker 1: down the beauty industry and girl matthing way to save

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Speaker 1: money and it's a real girlma exposing a few things,

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Speaker 1: bit spicy thing. But before we get into the episode,

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Speaker 1: we do like to start with our life lesson of

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Speaker 1: the week, Sojalie, do you want to kick us off?

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Speaker 3: I do my life lessons more of a quote really,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like it's been a life lesson this

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Speaker 3: week and it's that success is on the other side

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Speaker 3: of Cringe Mountain.

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Speaker 2: So true.

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Speaker 3: I feel like more often than not, we stop ourselves

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Speaker 3: from doing something because we think it's too embarrassing or

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Speaker 3: it's too cringe. But if you can push past it,

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Speaker 3: and I mean speaking from experience, success really is on

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Speaker 3: the other side of cringe mountain.

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Speaker 1: Chicks, what's the cringe mountain that you moved past this week?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like just doing TikTok in general, so

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Speaker 3: many people look at it and they think, oh, it's

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Speaker 3: so cringey. But I've had the most amazing opportunities this week,

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Speaker 3: and I honestly feel like it was born from getting

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Speaker 3: over the mountain that.

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Speaker 2: Was a little bit cringe being TikTok and it was

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Speaker 2: worth it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And our friend Jem also says this thing that

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Speaker 1: you'll never be judged by anyone doing better than.

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Speaker 2: I heard that this week. It is so true.

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Speaker 4: Ni.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you find a hater who thinks that they're doing

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Speaker 3: better than you or just so true.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so so.

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Speaker 1: True, because and I just live by that too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And how often do you like scroll through TikTok

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Speaker 4: and you're just watching people and you're not even having

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Speaker 4: here and they're like, you're not thinking that. You're just

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Speaker 4: like smooth brain watching, So just.

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Speaker 2: Do it your best.

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Speaker 1: And I really would like us to pepper smooth brain

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Speaker 1: into it. We care a lot more.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the chicks would get around it.

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Speaker 1: Cringe is just to construct. We did an episode on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it was a life lesson because I was

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Speaker 1: didn't realize my fly was down. I heard this and

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Speaker 1: I was wearing my green shandies and it was like,

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Speaker 1: March take it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's allays me.

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Speaker 1: It's never sou and it does piss me off if

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Speaker 1: I'm honest. Like when I got my tits out for

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Speaker 1: a skin check. I think we did like a recap

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Speaker 1: last year, and I was like listing all the things

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Speaker 4: And I was like and so I was like, I

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Speaker 1: They're all good stories for the pod. Yeah, when are

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Speaker 1: you going to start contributing.

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Speaker 4: I fell at that event.

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Speaker 2: I've got that bling.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same thing as having your coochie out

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Speaker 4: It is when you throw a whole glass of champagne

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Speaker 4: on a poor girl wearing a silk dress. Anyway, anyway, okay,

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Speaker 4: so I want to your life lesson.

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Speaker 1: Of the week.

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Speaker 4: Okay. My life lesson of the week is a reminder

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Speaker 4: then my account got suspended because I didn't read the

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Speaker 4: text properly. Kill me dirty. And I thought that the

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Speaker 4: the text, and it was like respond yes, if you

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Speaker 4: authorize this transaction, or respond no. And I thought, you know,

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Speaker 4: sometimes it's like respond no if you don't need us

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Speaker 4: to do anything. I thought that's what it was saying.

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Speaker 1: And said, was this transaction you and you said no,

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Speaker 1: you can tell me that part.

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Speaker 4: I only realized yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, Look, we're gonna be honest. We were sideways.

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Speaker 1: I also left my card behind the bar and we

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Speaker 1: and I was like, z card here. They were like yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's that cool.

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Speaker 4: So that's a two pronged one. Remember to call your

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Speaker 1: And at the end of it.

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Speaker 4: Even if you do, it still might get flagged as

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Speaker 4: a suspicious transaction. So read the text properly.

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Speaker 1: Very good, good, very good. Okay, what your lifeless lesson is?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on the pot. I've said as

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Speaker 1: well that I'll just like stop watching TV shows and

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Speaker 1: stop reading books if like they're not very good, and

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Speaker 1: like that's been a thing being like you don't have

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Speaker 1: to finish something if you're not enjoying it, which I

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Speaker 1: do think is tip. However, I stopped reading Iron Flame.

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Speaker 2: Do you read books? I do?

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Speaker 3: But I'm also like nonfiction okay, yeah, the one that's real.

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Speaker 1: Nonfiction sometimes that was the most relatable. Gotcha. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I go between both, but I like just going to

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Speaker 1: I'm aw I'm like exhale.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fairy wings and everything. Yeah, literally fairy.

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Speaker 1: Porn, and I'm good again. But I was reading Iron

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Speaker 1: sometimes you do just need to give things the chance

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Speaker 1: I was like commentating, you know that, yes, just came

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Speaker 1: really good, that like maybe we should give things a chance.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if there's like the encouragement there, if people are

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Speaker 4: If it's not going.

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Speaker 1: It's really good, like for shows, movies, TV shows, I said,

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Speaker 1: TV shows, books, Yeah, you know what I mean, all

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Speaker 1: the content.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you haven't finished Iron Flame, I highly

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Speaker 1: recommend no spoilers. But apparently this is what happens. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get into court, all right. So to bring the

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Speaker 1: you launched a series on socials called Beauty Court is

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Speaker 1: in Session and the first video got over seven hundred

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Speaker 4: So we're going to get.

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Speaker 1: Into the specific topics later, but can you tell us

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Speaker 1: what inspired you to start this series?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, obviously, we're in a cost of

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Speaker 3: we're really having a look at cost per kilo, cost

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Speaker 3: so often we walk into the Sephoras and the Mechas

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Speaker 3: without really delving deeper into is it actually work my money?

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Speaker 3: And that's really where that series was born from. Was

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Speaker 1: like looking at that being like, what's the unit pricing? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine cost per gram on a setting powder?

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Speaker 1: I would die, we stop shopping.

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Speaker 2: Well, that would be very exposing for me.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, we don't get that because we would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and interestingly, they don't actually advertise it on a

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Speaker 3: lot of the websites as well. Really, yeah, if you

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Speaker 3: go into Macri, you go into Sephora. Unless you're actually

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Speaker 3: zooming in on the photo of the foundation and it's

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Speaker 3: displayed on the front of the foundation, you can't see

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Speaker 3: the grams.

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Speaker 2: You can't see the mills.

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Speaker 1: That is wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, all right, should we get into our first

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Speaker 4: one first topic? Gavel? Yeah? I know, seriously, I feel

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Speaker 4: like we need like the bag. For anyone who's not aware,

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Speaker 4: what's the gavel?

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Speaker 2: The gavel is.

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Speaker 3: This is not an ad, but the gavel is the

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Speaker 3: abbey from bush and it's a great gavel. I would

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Speaker 3: recommend said gavel, and she gabbles well, gable.

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Speaker 1: Has great battery life and gavel achieves goal of gavel.

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Speaker 1: I also have said gavel, gavel with gavel, I gavel

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Speaker 1: with a few other gavels.

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Speaker 2: I gabbled in a few gavels.

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Speaker 4: We love a multipurpose gavel.

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Speaker 2: We do love a multi Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do like an outside region stimulator gavel. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: those gavels are probably my favorite.

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Speaker 4: All terrains gavel if you will, all right, let's get

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Speaker 4: into our first beauty court is in session? Is Mechamax

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Speaker 4: completely ripping you off? Talk us through the research and findings?

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Speaker 3: Oo okay, So this actually started funnily enough with an

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Speaker 1: Is there any other option the meaning of life?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you'll soon find out that setting power

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Speaker 3: full face on Mechamax. Funnily enough, and that's how it started.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's get into our second beauty quarter is

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're right, MC beauty does have a lot

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Speaker 3: So when you look at their products, which I'm just

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Speaker 1: Truly as well. We put up a story recently and

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Speaker 3: I thought, I'd honestly rather align with the consumer on

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know what, though, I think a lot

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, this is my favorite topic as well as

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Speaker 3: retailers your home here with us, Thank you chicks. So

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Speaker 3: this one's really interesting right. Interestingly enough, Australia Posts actually

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Speaker 3: It details supply chain logistic statistics across multiple industries. In

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Speaker 3: the last year.

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Speaker 2: Twenty percent on a rewards loyalty program is a huge

442
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Speaker 2: substantial amount of growth in.

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Speaker 4: Way and in a cost of living crisis.

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Speaker 3: Yes, especially when you take into consideration that you have

445
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Speaker 3: those spending brackets. Yeah, and the goalpost have changed on

446
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Speaker 3: those recently. So very interesting. But when it actually comes

447
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: to Mecca beauty loops, so you've essentially got five levels.

448
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Speaker 1: Wow, why did I think there was three?

449
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: So first the public know that there's four. There's actually

450
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Speaker 3: a secret fifth levels.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, guys, we're uncovering the secrets onto abrottics.

452
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Speaker 2: The prosecution did not come to play today.

453
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Speaker 3: So the fifth level is called Magic Circle and that's

454
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Speaker 3: the secret level.

455
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Speaker 2: It's invitation only.

456
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Speaker 4: Secret society.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeap, So Mecca has a secret society. They do, guys,

458
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Speaker 1: whoa they do good.

459
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Speaker 3: My understanding is that there's very few people that are

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Speaker 3: in the Magic Circle. I have spoken to a few

461
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Speaker 3: people in the know. I've done done a bit of investigation.

462
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Speaker 1: People in the makea secret circle.

463
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Speaker 3: No, but I've had a lot of Mecro employees reach

464
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Speaker 3: out to me. So I've been speaking to a substantial

465
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Speaker 3: amount of them, and this is sort of how I

466
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 3: got that information. There is actually a lady on TikTok.

467
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Speaker 3: I cannot, for the life of me remember her name,

468
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Speaker 3: but she's in the magic circle and she speaks about it.

469
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Speaker 3: She shows like the gifts she gets, the anniversary gifts

470
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Speaker 3: she gets, all that sort of thing. But yeah, it's

471
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Speaker 3: the secret fifth level. But traditionally we've got the four

472
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Speaker 3: levels that most people know about. Now I will say

473
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Speaker 3: in that video, I got one if the figure is incorrect,

474
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Speaker 3: so we're going to redact that and I will give

475
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: you the correct figure for this. So for Beauty Loop

476
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: level one, it's a minimum spend of three hundred dollars

477
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Speaker 3: to six hundred dollars. Level two is six hundred to

478
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Speaker 3: twelve hundred dollars. Initially I said two thousand. That was incorrect.

479
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Speaker 2: We'll take that back.

480
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Speaker 1: The fun's fine. Redacted, redact from the record.

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Speaker 3: Level three is twelve hundred dollars to three thousand, five

482
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Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Level four is three thousand, five hundred dollars

483
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Speaker 3: and above and then level five. We don't know, but

484
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Speaker 3: I'm going to assume the spend bracket is rather high.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was like,

486
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Speaker 1: do we know what the spend bracket for I've.

487
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Speaker 3: Spoken to a few employees who have said it's upwards

488
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Speaker 3: of ten grand in a year, in a.

489
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Speaker 4: Year, in a year, they must be buying all of

490
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Speaker 4: the like beauty tech. I'm like, how much are you like.

491
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Speaker 1: The fragrances make fragrance?

492
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

493
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Speaker 3: And then if we compare it to Sephora, so you've

494
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Speaker 3: got three levels of Sephora. So we've got a White

495
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: Card level, so that is a minimum spend of zero dollars,

496
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: so you don't have to spend anything, and you're technically

497
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Speaker 3: speaking in the White card, so that's between zero and

498
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Speaker 3: three hundred dollars. Then you have the Black Card, which

499
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: is between three hundred dollars and fifteen hundred dollars, and

500
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Speaker 3: then we have the Gold Card, which is fifteen hundred

501
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Speaker 3: dollars and above.

502
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Speaker 2: So interestingly enough, to be.

503
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Speaker 3: At the very first level of Sephora's loyalty program, which

504
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: gives you fifteen percent off when they do their VIP sales,

505
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 3: you would have to already be by the time to

506
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Speaker 3: get into that second bracket. You've only existed in Mecca's

507
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Speaker 3: first bracket, So just so much better from a loyalty

508
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Speaker 3: program perspective.

509
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Speaker 2: Interestingly, with Sephora.

510
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Speaker 3: As well, we know that they give discounts, which is

511
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Speaker 3: not something that Mecha do. We all would have seen

512
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Speaker 3: the Mecca beauty loop boxes all over our feed recently

513
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Speaker 3: and we know that that is how Mecha rewards their

514
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: loyalty members. But Sephora gives you discounts, and I think

515
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Speaker 3: when you take into consideration cost program and the cost

516
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Speaker 3: per meal, and then you also add to that your discounts,

517
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, you are better off shopping with Sephora

518
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: from a consumer perspective.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing I think looking at probably

520
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Speaker 1: what brands you're buying is going to determine where you're

521
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Speaker 1: shopping as well. Like, if you are shopping with brands

522
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: and stocked at Mecca, it probably makes sense, yeah, to

523
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Speaker 1: stay in that loyalty program or do you think it's

524
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Speaker 1: better to potentially look at alternatives.

525
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Speaker 3: So interestingly, I was a Mecca diehard. I was a

526
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: Mecca girly through and through. When I started looking into

527
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Speaker 3: this further, and this came before the whole cost per

528
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: meal and cost program situation, I actually decided to align

529
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Speaker 3: myself more with the brands that were housed within Sephora

530
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 3: because of what it was worth, you know, through the sales,

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Speaker 3: what it was going to be beneficial to me as

532
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Speaker 3: a consumer. I moved away from Mecca, so there are

533
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Speaker 3: some brands which, unfortunately I still have to purchase through

534
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Speaker 3: there because Mecha hold exclusivity right Australia. But for the

535
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: most part, my makeup in my skincare comes from Sephora,

536
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: and honestly I'm quite happy with it.

537
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's good.

538
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 3: I genuinely think from a consumer perspective, supports where it's out.

539
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Speaker 1: Wow, I love this shit.

540
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah it's interesting.

541
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Speaker 4: Serious.

542
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Speaker 1: So love girl math, I love data. I can't wait

543
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Speaker 1: to read that Australia Post report at the end.

544
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Speaker 2: Of the year. Seriously.

545
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Speaker 3: I mean, if this is how I was taught maths

546
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Speaker 3: in high school, I can tell you I would have

547
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: been much better at it.

548
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: So true. There's also like Pinterest also do a similar

549
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Speaker 1: thing where they release like reports on the month of

550
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Speaker 1: what's been like going up in searches, so like, if

551
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: you want to see whether or not like a fashion

552
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: trend is something you want to invest in, you can

553
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: see whether or not it's been going up in searches

554
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: with their like end of months thing end of month report.

555
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: I know the word report.

556
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Speaker 3: Obviously love when social platforms come out with this sort

557
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: of thing. TikTok's got one for creators as well, where

558
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: you can go through and you can see what's performing

559
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: through seo et cetera.

560
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: So good, it's so good.

561
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: Good. The data doesn't lie data.

562
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Speaker 1: There's a really amazing Instagram called data but Make It

563
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: Fashion and she pulls in like search terms and where

564
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: people are searching for it, and whether a trend is

565
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: going up or down interest. So she did one on

566
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Speaker 1: like leopard print, and it was leopard print was going.

567
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Speaker 2: Up trending upwards, yeah, and it.

568
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Speaker 1: Was like people being like, no, I don't want to buy,

569
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Speaker 1: it's just a trend, and it was like it increased

570
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Speaker 1: thirty percent in the last week or something. That's not

571
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Speaker 1: a direct quote. I'm paraphrasing here, but it's a really

572
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Speaker 1: cool Instagram page.

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Speaker 4: It's good as well because she presents the data via

574
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: memes basically. Yeah, so it's very entertaining as well.

575
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: So I feel like you'd love it.

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00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to look into this, Yeah, one hundred percent.

577
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: What are some ways that we can beauty court is

578
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: in session or like save or splurge in our everyday shopping.

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Speaker 3: I think if we're talking every day shopping, one hundred percent.

580
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: If you're not already doing this, when you're going into

581
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Speaker 3: the supermarkets, check the tears please on the bottom of

582
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: price tickets. It'll actually have a unit price. And I

583
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: think that's really where you can start in your everyday shopping.

584
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: But very similar to what you said before, start educating

585
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: on composition of fabrics to learn whether it's a save

586
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: or whether it's a splurge. And when it comes to

587
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: your beauty retailers, do the research. Unfortunately you will have

588
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: to go in store or you can just watch my videos,

589
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: but start checking what's the cost per mil, what's the

590
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: cost program, and deciding for yourself if it's aligned with

591
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: your values, is it worth your money. It is going

592
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: to take a little bit of legwork, but honestly, long term,

593
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: it's going to be worth it.

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00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Love that.

595
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Speaker 4: I feel like you've mentioned a couple of them, But

596
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Speaker 4: what are your top three beauty brands that offer the

597
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: best bang for buck in terms of quality, size of

598
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Speaker 4: product and the cost.

599
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Speaker 3: I think this will not be a surprise to anybody,

600
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Speaker 3: but MC beauty takes top position for me. I definitely

601
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: think when we're talking size of the product, cost of

602
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: the product, quality of the product, and accessibility one hundred percent.

603
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: MC Beauty All the Way, cannot recommend it enough. I

604
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: think second to that, Lorel Lorrel is very good. Loreal Paris.

605
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: You obviously can find them pretty much any quote unquote

606
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: drug store. But yeah, when it comes to the size

607
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: of the product, when it comes to the actual quality,

608
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: shade ranges, et cetera, definitely definitely up there. And then

609
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: I think definitely for skin care, I couldn't really decide

610
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: between the two of these quite frankly, but the Ordinary

611
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: love the Ordinary. I speak about the Ordinary a lot

612
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: on my page as well. I definitely think for the money,

613
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: it is fantastic. It's a staple in my skin care routine.

614
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: And then almost pretty much anything Korean skincare, love Korean skincare.

615
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: The Brent Annua is fantastic. Ten out of ten recommend

616
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: for the price point, it's very well positioned, quantities everything.

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00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: Definitely recommend.

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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Another one I love is TB skin Care. Have you

619
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Speaker 1: tried them?

620
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Speaker 2: I have.

621
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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't like it.

622
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: I didn't like Honestly, I'm be indifferent. So it wasn't

623
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Speaker 3: groundbreaking to me. It wasn't terrible, Okay, I just didn't

624
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: find it made a difference. Gotcha, I have very acne

625
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: prone skin, and honestly, I like better products out there.

626
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I love the honesty.

627
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: And also that's the thing. It's especially with skincare or

628
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: even with makeup as well. It really does come down

629
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Speaker 4: to your skin type and concern because there arevan times

630
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Speaker 4: where I'm like, I love this product blah blah, and

631
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: people like what I used it and I did not

632
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: see a difference, and then we talk about our skin concerns,

633
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: and I'm like, Okay, that's why, because you're looking for

634
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Speaker 4: something maybe a little bit more like, you're looking for

635
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Speaker 4: something that's targeting a completely different skin type than.

636
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Speaker 1: What I have.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Yeah, one hundred percent.

638
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Okay. So let's finish off with a game of save

639
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: or splurge. So we're going to give you a beauty product,

640
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: and you're gonna tell us whether or not you think

641
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: people should save on it. Am I a more affordable option,

642
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: or if you think it's a splurge and splurge on

643
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: this product? Okay, Okay, you don't have to go onto

644
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: specifics like in terms of specific products, but you can

645
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: explain why if you want. Okay, So Number one foundation.

646
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, splurge on this, with the exception

647
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: of Mabeline fit Me Gigii did actually wore it to

648
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: the Metgala. It is, in my opinion, the best drug

649
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: store foundation on the market. It seriously is anything else, though,

650
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: I've got to be honest. Splurge, but that's my skin

651
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: concerns as well. Honestly, I think, yeah, do what fits

652
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: your budget, do it fits your values, But I must

653
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: splurge nine times out of ten.

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Speaker 1: Number two Mascara Save.

655
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Speaker 3: Save immediately say you do not need to be purchasing

656
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: sixty dollars mascas.

657
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: It's not worth it.

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00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: The formulas at you know, your chemist ware house, your

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Speaker 3: price lines, they are so good. Don't sleep on drug

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Speaker 3: store mascara people, it's good.

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Speaker 4: Also the expiry on muscara as well, like, it's not

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Speaker 4: worth splurging on.

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Speaker 1: It when you can't even keep it for that long.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Number three primer splurge.

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Speaker 3: Definitely splurge, and I say this purely on the basis

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Speaker 3: that I find the more affordable primers. The formula is

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Speaker 3: just not there for me. The only exception to this

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Speaker 3: I would say is the m CO Grip primer that's

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Speaker 3: highly comparable to the milk hydro grip. But as a generalization,

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Speaker 3: you've got a splurge on primary in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number four lipstick Save Come on, there are some great

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Speaker 3: brands out there for lipstick, Revlon Seriously, Like, I just

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Speaker 3: don't think you need to be spending one hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: on lipstick.

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Speaker 1: I lose them a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's my main thing, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I love a lip product. I'm for a lip product.

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Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't say that. I've said, kunt, you're all good,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I'm like little products I lose quite easily.

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Speaker 1: So like lip line, is, lip glosses, lipsticks, those tend

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Speaker 1: to go for a little walk and then they come back.

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Speaker 4: Well sometimes sometimes I don't.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes they just takes them. Yeah. Number five Bronzer splurge.

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Speaker 3: Definitely a splurge on that one. I just find I

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Speaker 3: haven't found anything at the drug store that is actually

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Speaker 3: good with Bronzer. I feel like the high end products

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Speaker 3: they blend so much better. Yeah, splurge all they splurge.

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Speaker 1: Okay, last one, blush, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to also say splurge on this with the exception

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Speaker 3: actually of a Kmart product. So it's the Oxx cosmetic line.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have tried it.

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Speaker 1: Is it the Sparkling Rose collection? Yes, yes, they have.

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Speaker 3: A blush in the Sparkling Rose Collection. It's like a duo,

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Speaker 3: so it's got two for one in there.

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Speaker 2: One's almost like a blush topper.

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Speaker 3: So so exceptional ten out of ten recommend But most

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Speaker 3: of the time I do love my little red beauty blushes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you're human.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the pigment is unmatched. Yeah, yeah, Okay. To wrap

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Speaker 4: up the episode, we always ask our guests, what's your

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Speaker 4: biggest life less so far?

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Speaker 2: My biggest life lesson?

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Speaker 3: So you are the only person that's going to wake

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Speaker 3: up with yourself every morning and go to sleep with

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Speaker 3: yourself every night, show up for yourself. Nobody is going

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Speaker 3: to show up for you like you can show up

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Speaker 3: for yourself, and I think, just don't rob yourself with

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Speaker 3: that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, probably my biggest life lesson ever. Honestly, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 4: That's so good. Put that ship on a show, all right. Well,

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Speaker 4: Court is no longer in session, sad.

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Speaker 2: Gavel Court is a jerm.

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Speaker 4: We're putting the gavel.

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Speaker 3: The gavel is just we're putting the gavel on charge.

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Speaker 1: That's a reminder of a go put your gavels on

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Speaker 1: charge if you know, you know, and your gavel dying

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Speaker 1: mid court session exactly.

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Speaker 4: But for any of the chicks who aren't already following you,

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Speaker 4: where can they find you?

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Speaker 3: So you can find me on Instagram at Jilly Spelt

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Speaker 3: j I double l I E Underscore Clark with one

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Speaker 3: K and on TikTok Jilly Underscore.

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Speaker 1: Clark with two k's just mixing it up.

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Speaker 2: Someone's still my using.

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Speaker 1: We know that I've been trying to get rid of

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Speaker 1: that underscore and our TikTok for two years and we

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Speaker 1: never will.

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Speaker 4: It's okay that underscore is part of us now, It's

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Speaker 4: part of our story. Well, thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me absolute.

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Speaker 4: Joy, and thanks to you chicks for having us in

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Speaker 4: the ear holes.

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Speaker 2: We love to be here.

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Speaker 4: And thanks to m I K Made for making today's

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Speaker 4: episode happen.

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Speaker 1: Love it, Love you chicks, chicks. Ye