1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Appoge production. 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,321 Speaker 2: You've had, say, clients that night you come on to 3 00:00:19,361 --> 00:00:23,321 Speaker 2: say somebody, and then are you sexually getting when you're 4 00:00:23,361 --> 00:00:26,601 Speaker 2: sexually with that person? Are you sexually being with them 5 00:00:26,641 --> 00:00:29,641 Speaker 2: because it's you or you or they feeling that you're. 6 00:00:29,481 --> 00:00:31,641 Speaker 1: Treating them like a client. That's what I would be 7 00:00:31,681 --> 00:00:32,481 Speaker 1: getting the shits about. 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,281 Speaker 3: No. No, The best way I've been able to describe 9 00:00:36,321 --> 00:00:41,521 Speaker 3: this is sex with a partner is like somebody else 10 00:00:41,601 --> 00:00:47,641 Speaker 3: tickling me. Sex with a client is like I'm tickling myself. Okay, 11 00:00:48,641 --> 00:00:53,321 Speaker 3: there's an element with my partner. There's so much emotion involved. 12 00:00:54,001 --> 00:00:58,081 Speaker 3: I'm very turned on. I love being with them. We 13 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,001 Speaker 3: have intimacy to get where from a partner. Oh no, 14 00:01:02,081 --> 00:01:07,201 Speaker 3: I'm very submissive. Really, I am insanely submissive. I'm very submissive. 15 00:01:07,881 --> 00:01:11,521 Speaker 3: And so with a partner, you've got all of that 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: really beautiful stuff. With a client, I am it's my job. 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: I'm providing a service. So yeah, they are getting aspects 18 00:01:20,041 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: of me. But I mean it, and I'm very good 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: at what I do. 20 00:01:24,041 --> 00:01:29,241 Speaker 2: But I'm just asking because I know I know two 21 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: people have been a mush they said they do Oh my. 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,001 Speaker 3: Lord, if somebody said to me, okay, every so often 23 00:01:35,041 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: somebody will say, oh, no, I don't want to kiss, 24 00:01:36,961 --> 00:01:44,721 Speaker 3: and I'm like, do I don't have cooties? Yes? No, 25 00:01:45,041 --> 00:01:51,761 Speaker 3: Well I'm providing this really beautiful experience for somebody that 26 00:01:52,681 --> 00:02:00,641 Speaker 3: maybe it's not sex focused. Yes, sex sometimes happens, but 27 00:02:01,161 --> 00:02:03,401 Speaker 3: there are quite a lot of times where I'm not 28 00:02:03,481 --> 00:02:06,321 Speaker 3: having any intercourse. I'm not even taking my kid off. 29 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: But there are things that people come to me for 30 00:02:09,801 --> 00:02:16,641 Speaker 3: and it's touch. It's beautiful. I see a lot of 31 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,041 Speaker 3: people who haven't touched a woman in a really long time, 32 00:02:20,161 --> 00:02:23,681 Speaker 3: they've been single for a very long time, or they've 33 00:02:23,721 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: just decided that, you know what, I hit ten years 34 00:02:26,601 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: without being somebody, and I decided that I was going 35 00:02:29,001 --> 00:02:32,161 Speaker 3: to meet someone, and I'm like getting teary. I'm just like, 36 00:02:32,201 --> 00:02:33,961 Speaker 3: oh my god, you picked me out of a massive 37 00:02:34,001 --> 00:02:37,081 Speaker 3: like list, Like I thank you. I'm humbled that you 38 00:02:37,281 --> 00:02:39,561 Speaker 3: picked me out of everyone. There's so many of them, 39 00:02:39,921 --> 00:02:45,241 Speaker 3: and I just it's a very yeah, it's very I 40 00:02:44,641 --> 00:02:46,681 Speaker 3: don't know. I really enjoy. 41 00:02:47,921 --> 00:02:49,641 Speaker 1: No, I. 42 00:02:51,281 --> 00:02:54,361 Speaker 3: No, I love it. I love it, and I love 43 00:02:54,481 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: that connection with people, and I love bringing people that 44 00:02:57,641 --> 00:03:00,321 Speaker 3: as well. There's so much of what I do on 45 00:03:00,401 --> 00:03:04,001 Speaker 3: this also so much. I think the misconception is that 46 00:03:05,081 --> 00:03:08,041 Speaker 3: people are just coming and just like plowing us through 47 00:03:08,201 --> 00:03:10,601 Speaker 3: for however long they're with us for, and that's not 48 00:03:10,881 --> 00:03:13,721 Speaker 3: it at all. I find that with the people that 49 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,641 Speaker 3: I see and look. It may be just because I've 50 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,041 Speaker 3: set myself up to see these kinds of people, but 51 00:03:22,881 --> 00:03:28,201 Speaker 3: it's all very loving and very authentic, and quite often 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: I'm in tears afterwards because it was such an emotional 53 00:03:33,361 --> 00:03:34,881 Speaker 3: release for them. 54 00:03:34,601 --> 00:03:37,841 Speaker 1: So my next question would be, have you ever felt 55 00:03:38,121 --> 00:03:42,281 Speaker 1: one of your clients? Have you have what happened with that? 56 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:49,081 Speaker 1: I don't know, did you get did you kind of 57 00:03:49,081 --> 00:03:49,561 Speaker 1: get scared? 58 00:03:49,601 --> 00:03:53,081 Speaker 3: And I've seen thousands of clients and I've never had 59 00:03:53,121 --> 00:03:57,801 Speaker 3: this happen before. I have my you know, I do 60 00:03:57,921 --> 00:04:00,641 Speaker 3: have a bit of a routine. So you know, when 61 00:04:00,641 --> 00:04:03,281 Speaker 3: you arrive, I put you in the shower, we do money, 62 00:04:04,121 --> 00:04:06,721 Speaker 3: we'll chat will you know, I get a vibe of 63 00:04:06,761 --> 00:04:09,161 Speaker 3: who you are, and we'll talk about things and it'll 64 00:04:09,241 --> 00:04:12,761 Speaker 3: just go from there and then it actually progresses start kissing. 65 00:04:12,881 --> 00:04:15,281 Speaker 3: This happens la and I can kind of you know, 66 00:04:15,321 --> 00:04:17,641 Speaker 3: if they're with me for two or three hours, I 67 00:04:17,641 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: can kind of map out what's going to happen in 68 00:04:20,801 --> 00:04:25,361 Speaker 3: the timeline of that of our time together with this guy. 69 00:04:25,561 --> 00:04:28,201 Speaker 3: He came in and I don't know what happened. It 70 00:04:28,241 --> 00:04:30,721 Speaker 3: was like I was struck by lightning, and I have 71 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,481 Speaker 3: actually been struck by lightning, so it was kind of 72 00:04:33,521 --> 00:04:38,201 Speaker 3: the same. I went giddy. I didn't do my routine. 73 00:04:38,361 --> 00:04:40,841 Speaker 3: I forgot to put him in the shower. He just 74 00:04:40,921 --> 00:04:43,561 Speaker 3: like was awkwardly in his clothes while we just chatted, 75 00:04:43,601 --> 00:04:46,361 Speaker 3: and I couldn't pull it together. I could not pull 76 00:04:46,361 --> 00:04:50,441 Speaker 3: it together. It felt like we were on a first date. No, 77 00:04:50,481 --> 00:04:59,281 Speaker 3: it's just yeah, yeah, no older and it just threw 78 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,321 Speaker 3: me off and I felt so bad. I felt, oh 79 00:05:03,401 --> 00:05:07,601 Speaker 3: my god, I haven't provided the service that this guy 80 00:05:08,281 --> 00:05:11,201 Speaker 3: thought that he was obviously going to get. I didn't 81 00:05:11,521 --> 00:05:15,361 Speaker 3: do I just giggled my way. I was just so embarrassing. 82 00:05:15,401 --> 00:05:18,161 Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck have I done? And 83 00:05:18,241 --> 00:05:23,481 Speaker 3: I've never done this before ever. Actually it's the first 84 00:05:23,481 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: time I've come to realize it's the first time that 85 00:05:25,681 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: I've actually initiated a move. I only ever in my 86 00:05:30,641 --> 00:05:33,361 Speaker 3: whole life have had guys pull a move on me. 87 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,681 Speaker 3: I would never ever dream of it. And I felt 88 00:05:36,841 --> 00:05:39,881 Speaker 3: so bad and I just said tim at the end 89 00:05:40,041 --> 00:05:44,801 Speaker 3: of our booking where nothing happened and nothing happened. No, 90 00:05:44,921 --> 00:05:48,761 Speaker 3: she was sitting and I couldn't pull it. I couldn't 91 00:05:48,761 --> 00:05:52,161 Speaker 3: pull it together. I don't know what was wrong with me. No, 92 00:05:52,201 --> 00:05:54,801 Speaker 3: we were I mean we were just talking so deep 93 00:05:54,841 --> 00:05:57,481 Speaker 3: about life and everything. And then time was up and 94 00:05:57,521 --> 00:06:01,281 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, well, I'm sorry about all of that. 95 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,721 Speaker 3: And I was like, do you want to get a 96 00:06:02,801 --> 00:06:05,401 Speaker 3: drink with me? Like, do you want to get a 97 00:06:06,161 --> 00:06:09,481 Speaker 3: and he was like oh, like like he's like, I 98 00:06:09,481 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: would love to, but I mean I can't afford to 99 00:06:12,281 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: pay you again. And I was like no, no, no, no, no, 100 00:06:14,481 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: like like just come out with me for a drink. 101 00:06:18,601 --> 00:06:20,041 Speaker 3: And he was like, Okay, I'd love to. 102 00:06:21,721 --> 00:06:27,161 Speaker 1: Tolon he keeps sting, Yeah, a little watt don't want 103 00:06:27,161 --> 00:06:27,481 Speaker 1: to give to. 104 00:06:31,041 --> 00:06:34,601 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only time that it's ever ever happened, 105 00:06:35,001 --> 00:06:38,361 Speaker 3: ever happened. But there have been times like there have 106 00:06:38,401 --> 00:06:40,721 Speaker 3: been times, you know, I've I had a client for 107 00:06:40,961 --> 00:06:45,281 Speaker 3: four years and I found out that he was he 108 00:06:45,641 --> 00:06:47,721 Speaker 3: had a ring and was going to propose to me. 109 00:06:47,921 --> 00:06:51,121 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So I've had the other side of that too, 110 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:59,841 Speaker 3: and that was quite hard to navigate. Yeah, anyway, I said, no, Okay. 111 00:07:00,081 --> 00:07:02,921 Speaker 1: Worse clients. There's got to be one. There's got to 112 00:07:02,921 --> 00:07:03,921 Speaker 1: be a worst client you've had. 113 00:07:04,281 --> 00:07:08,841 Speaker 3: So there are these really awful websites in their forums 114 00:07:09,521 --> 00:07:16,841 Speaker 3: where these keyboard warrior men it's almost like a pissing contest, 115 00:07:17,281 --> 00:07:23,201 Speaker 3: and so it's actually these websites make me feel ill. 116 00:07:23,521 --> 00:07:27,281 Speaker 3: So for them, it's just this big, you know, show 117 00:07:27,321 --> 00:07:32,641 Speaker 3: of oh, well, I've hooked up with this one, this one, 118 00:07:32,761 --> 00:07:34,881 Speaker 3: this one, this one, this one, and then they jump 119 00:07:34,921 --> 00:07:41,241 Speaker 3: on these forums and they give a really hectic every 120 00:07:41,281 --> 00:07:45,241 Speaker 3: single thing detail review, and then other guys will jump 121 00:07:45,241 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: on and comment and they'll pick everything apart like everything. 122 00:07:50,841 --> 00:07:56,321 Speaker 3: I had this time with a guy recently, and at 123 00:07:56,361 --> 00:08:00,161 Speaker 3: the end of our time together, I was like, Okay, 124 00:08:00,201 --> 00:08:02,801 Speaker 3: he wasn't my usual type that I get, but he 125 00:08:03,561 --> 00:08:06,241 Speaker 3: seemed like a nice guy and I had a good 126 00:08:06,281 --> 00:08:11,761 Speaker 3: time all gasm's. We had sex a couple of times, 127 00:08:11,841 --> 00:08:15,041 Speaker 3: and we had really good, interesting chats. When he left, 128 00:08:15,081 --> 00:08:16,841 Speaker 3: I even looked into like the things that we were 129 00:08:16,881 --> 00:08:19,761 Speaker 3: talking about. I thought that for me, it was just 130 00:08:19,961 --> 00:08:25,681 Speaker 3: a you know, standard what I provide. He as he left, 131 00:08:25,681 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, I'll definitely love to book you again. 132 00:08:28,561 --> 00:08:30,921 Speaker 3: Love to see you again. I was like, okay, that 133 00:08:31,041 --> 00:08:34,721 Speaker 3: was great. Not that I ever have anybody say anything bad. 134 00:08:34,801 --> 00:08:40,921 Speaker 3: I don't ever. And he posted a review on me 135 00:08:41,121 --> 00:08:48,401 Speaker 3: on one of these forums and it was so inaccurate 136 00:08:48,481 --> 00:08:52,081 Speaker 3: of our time together that it actually made me just go, 137 00:08:52,761 --> 00:08:57,441 Speaker 3: I'm so confused. My brain wants to understand it. And 138 00:08:57,521 --> 00:09:00,041 Speaker 3: so I know the experience that I had with him, 139 00:09:00,201 --> 00:09:02,481 Speaker 3: and I know how he responded and how he was, 140 00:09:02,881 --> 00:09:05,241 Speaker 3: but then for him to be like, well I with 141 00:09:05,361 --> 00:09:09,081 Speaker 3: Karlie electric and actually, do you know what wasn't worth 142 00:09:09,081 --> 00:09:11,681 Speaker 3: the money? You know, put your money on horses, like 143 00:09:11,721 --> 00:09:14,641 Speaker 3: you'll have better luck. And I was like, this isn't 144 00:09:14,681 --> 00:09:17,241 Speaker 3: the experience that we had, And so it's kind of 145 00:09:17,321 --> 00:09:20,001 Speaker 3: rocked me a little bit. Yeah, it's just made me 146 00:09:20,041 --> 00:09:22,761 Speaker 3: realize that there are people out there who you know, 147 00:09:22,921 --> 00:09:25,441 Speaker 3: I'm being authentic and genuine and trying to give that 148 00:09:25,521 --> 00:09:29,361 Speaker 3: experience to somebody, and you know, I am giving such 149 00:09:29,401 --> 00:09:31,241 Speaker 3: a large part of myself and I try and do 150 00:09:31,281 --> 00:09:34,361 Speaker 3: it the best of my ability every single time. And 151 00:09:35,121 --> 00:09:39,081 Speaker 3: you know, to read just such a nasty thing like 152 00:09:39,121 --> 00:09:40,841 Speaker 3: it was telling me to go to the gym like 153 00:09:40,961 --> 00:09:46,001 Speaker 3: a sword, like you put me because I'm curvy. It 154 00:09:46,081 --> 00:09:48,601 Speaker 3: literally says in my profile that I'm curvy, I've got 155 00:09:48,641 --> 00:09:54,481 Speaker 3: an ecup, like I'm not skinny. I'm like, but yeah, 156 00:09:54,521 --> 00:09:57,641 Speaker 3: it was. It was pretty scathing. But yeah. And so 157 00:09:57,761 --> 00:10:00,241 Speaker 3: these websites are just awful and they're just out there 158 00:10:00,321 --> 00:10:03,601 Speaker 3: taking down women because it makes them feel better about themselves. 159 00:10:03,601 --> 00:10:06,961 Speaker 3: It's a definitely a certain type of male. 160 00:10:08,921 --> 00:10:12,721 Speaker 1: The mind plays games to make you look you should anyway. 161 00:10:13,441 --> 00:10:16,361 Speaker 3: Yeah, some awful people out there. So I've just put 162 00:10:16,361 --> 00:10:19,801 Speaker 3: it out on Twitter. Don't you're if you are on 163 00:10:19,881 --> 00:10:23,001 Speaker 3: these websites, do not book me. I don't want to 164 00:10:23,001 --> 00:10:25,521 Speaker 3: see you, don't want your money. I work so hard 165 00:10:25,561 --> 00:10:29,201 Speaker 3: at trying to only see the best kind of people. 166 00:10:29,641 --> 00:10:33,121 Speaker 3: And he definitely when he turned up, I was like, oh, 167 00:10:33,201 --> 00:10:41,081 Speaker 3: you're a slob, Like You're not who I usually usually see. Yeah, anyway, 168 00:10:41,161 --> 00:10:42,281 Speaker 3: that was the red flag. 169 00:10:43,001 --> 00:10:47,041 Speaker 1: We this parentheses from people or me, let's call you 170 00:10:47,121 --> 00:10:49,401 Speaker 1: first's you? 171 00:10:49,721 --> 00:10:54,641 Speaker 3: So? Okay, we've touched on hands. My dms on Instagram 172 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,721 Speaker 3: are full of guys sending me hand picks and I 173 00:10:56,721 --> 00:11:04,881 Speaker 3: would much prefer that over unsolicited picks. So thank you, man. Okay, 174 00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:11,481 Speaker 3: So I do love I'm into Oh god, why do 175 00:11:11,561 --> 00:11:16,601 Speaker 3: I say these things out in public. I like the 176 00:11:16,681 --> 00:11:20,681 Speaker 3: idea of cock and also I'm into like stagger and 177 00:11:20,761 --> 00:11:23,881 Speaker 3: vixen And do you know what any of these things 178 00:11:23,881 --> 00:11:30,041 Speaker 3: are you looking at? You would have no idea what 179 00:11:30,081 --> 00:11:37,921 Speaker 3: a cock is. Okay, So a cock is a subservient male. 180 00:11:39,161 --> 00:11:42,961 Speaker 3: It's usually quite a degrading thing. They think that they're 181 00:11:42,961 --> 00:11:46,441 Speaker 3: a piece of shit. And do you know every hotel 182 00:11:46,521 --> 00:11:49,921 Speaker 3: room has a cock chair, you know, like every Yeah, 183 00:11:49,961 --> 00:11:52,721 Speaker 3: in every hotel room there's a bed and then there's 184 00:11:52,761 --> 00:11:55,481 Speaker 3: always just like one armchair. Anyway, that's what we call 185 00:11:55,561 --> 00:12:02,281 Speaker 3: the cocktare. So the man will book me and he 186 00:12:02,401 --> 00:12:05,161 Speaker 3: will sit in the cucktare. He will not touch me. 187 00:12:05,961 --> 00:12:08,721 Speaker 3: He doesn't think that he's worthy to even be in 188 00:12:08,761 --> 00:12:12,521 Speaker 3: my presence, and so he wants to see me have 189 00:12:12,641 --> 00:12:17,201 Speaker 3: sex with somebody like a stag or a bull. And 190 00:12:17,881 --> 00:12:21,361 Speaker 3: they are more the dominating type. They're somebody that he'll 191 00:12:21,401 --> 00:12:25,801 Speaker 3: never be. They're told they're fit, they've got muscles, they're confident, 192 00:12:26,041 --> 00:12:28,441 Speaker 3: they're all of the things. He just thinks that he 193 00:12:28,601 --> 00:12:33,441 Speaker 3: is a piece of shit. Like it's actually the self 194 00:12:33,521 --> 00:12:37,201 Speaker 3: deprecation of these guys is insane. It's actually really full on. 195 00:12:37,401 --> 00:12:43,481 Speaker 3: And so they will then just sadly beat their meat 196 00:12:43,321 --> 00:12:46,521 Speaker 3: while watching, knowing that they can never have me, and 197 00:12:46,561 --> 00:12:51,961 Speaker 3: that is a sexual gratification for them. Wow, I think 198 00:12:52,041 --> 00:13:02,401 Speaker 3: I enjoy doing it because I enjoy it mainly just 199 00:13:02,441 --> 00:13:07,641 Speaker 3: for the voyeuristic having somebody watch me be with somebody 200 00:13:07,641 --> 00:13:15,841 Speaker 3: who is dominant and that brings me something. I'm into that. Yeah, 201 00:13:16,001 --> 00:13:21,201 Speaker 3: that's probably the weirdest one. 202 00:13:24,241 --> 00:13:26,361 Speaker 2: I want to listen to the episode in full, click 203 00:13:26,401 --> 00:13:27,321 Speaker 2: the link in the description.