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Speaker 1: Hey, they're healthy Ish listeners. Thanks for tuning in again

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Speaker 1: to this Body and Soul podcast, and welcome. If this

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Speaker 1: is your first time listening, Yes, this is healthy Ish.

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Speaker 1: I am Felicity Haley and because the app drops on

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Speaker 1: a Friday, I am joined by our digital editor Holly Berkeleman,

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Speaker 1: and we are chatting through the three hottest topics in

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Speaker 1: the health and wellness world this week. Holly, you came back.

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Speaker 2: I came back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: We loved having you on last week, so we've got

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Speaker 1: you back this week, just to hear from you, get

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Speaker 1: to know you better.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. Well, I'm an open book for list Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, but first I want to know how was the

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Speaker 1: PA Nation show at fashion Week? What's Peep's new direction?

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Speaker 2: It was great. I really loved it. It was definitely

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Speaker 2: quite a change for the brand, and it's a lot more.

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Speaker 2: She put it to me like this. I interviewed Pip

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Speaker 2: the other day. She put it to me that it

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Speaker 2: was it used to be active where through a fashion lens,

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Speaker 2: and now it's a fashion take on an active lifestyle,

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Speaker 2: which I think is quite a nice little SoundBite. But

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Speaker 2: it was great. So few logos really pared back. You

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Speaker 2: can wear it, you know, you could wear it for

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Speaker 2: active purposes, or you can just have it in your normal, regular,

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Speaker 2: everyday wardrobe. I thought it was fab some new colors

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Speaker 2: in there. There was a really pretty in there, a

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Speaker 2: nice like torp, tope, torp. I never know how to

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Speaker 2: say that word. I think top. Yeah, I'm really pretty

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Speaker 2: blue as well some sheer skirts. It was great, loved it.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see everyone wearing it. Actually, and

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Speaker 2: I wanted pretty much everything in the show. So they

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Speaker 2: were congrats to Pip.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well done. Pip actually have to get back on

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Speaker 1: her own. She hasn't been on for a while, so yeah. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: kick us off. What intrigued you this week in the

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Speaker 1: health and wellness world?

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Speaker 2: So my pick. It's one of the interesting stories that

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Speaker 2: hit Butt in Soul last week was by a contributor

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Speaker 2: called Ashley Low and the headline was one in ten

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Speaker 2: women have vaginismus, So why does so few of us

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Speaker 2: know what it is? I mean I can barely say

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Speaker 2: that words, So for those who don't know, vaginismith is

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Speaker 2: a condition where the muscles in and around the vagina

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Speaker 2: and the pelvic floor contract and titan which causes the

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Speaker 2: vagina to close, even when you don't necessarily want it

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Speaker 2: to be closed. On Titan, it can be quite painful,

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Speaker 2: and that includes during sex, when inserting a tampon or

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Speaker 2: a menstrual cup, and it can cause people who have

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Speaker 2: it quite a lot of grief. I actually used to

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Speaker 2: experience it as well, and so I know for I

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Speaker 2: sad it can be really painful, and I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of that comes from the psychological difficulties, yes, from

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Speaker 2: it as well. So what the piece calls out is

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Speaker 2: that it's such a common condition one in ten women.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of people, but so few people know

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Speaker 2: what it is. Many women don't realize they have it,

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Speaker 2: they've never heard of it, or they don't realize that

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Speaker 2: their symptoms are bad enough to classify as part of

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Speaker 1: Because you wouldn't necessarily think, oh, I'm really tight, or

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Speaker 1: what's going on down there, I'm going to go to

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Speaker 1: a doctor exactly. I think, oh, this is how it is, yes, and.

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Speaker 2: I think it kind of it's part of this ongoing

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Speaker 2: conversation about female pain and how we minimize it, and

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Speaker 2: we often expect people to kind of brush aside and

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Speaker 2: a really great piece. Recommend everyone having a read of that.

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Speaker 2: And it's similar to dmetriosis. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: more attention being paid to these conditions now and it's

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Speaker 2: great to see people talking about it.

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Speaker 1: And also having enough confidence to go to a doctor

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Speaker 1: and say I'm feeling this, I don't think this is right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming is there medication or what's the remedy?

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Speaker 2: It's actually not medication, person, I think you can have

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Speaker 2: what's it called. It's like dilation therapy, you can have.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of it is actually.

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Speaker 1: Hypno the volver and vagina maybe.

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Speaker 2: But it's a lot of it is psychological, I think,

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Speaker 2: your self fulfilling cycle. But yeah, I think you're so

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Speaker 2: hopefully people will come to treat sexual health conditions and

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Speaker 2: reproductive conditions as just what.

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Speaker 1: They are, which is the more we talk about them exactly,

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Speaker 1: the better it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Snap's actually low. It's a great piece.

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Speaker 1: From the volver to the breast. We're talking about colostrum.

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Speaker 2: It's a big lady day. It is.

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Speaker 1: Well. We love talking about new hair health trends on

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Speaker 1: this episode. And one word I keep seeing up across

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Speaker 1: social media on websites is colostrum. It's doing the rounds

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Speaker 1: on TikTok. Sophia Richie recently said she drinks colostrum in

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Speaker 1: her sweet Cherry smoothie. And I did write about a

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Speaker 1: few years A few years ago, I wrote about that

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Speaker 1: we witness human colostrum ice cream sold in New York City.

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Speaker 2: That's a dark thought, flares, I know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it tastes like. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even going there anyway. We all know colostrum is actually

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Speaker 1: a bit of a health elixa. It's the first form

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Speaker 1: of breast milk that is released by the mammary glands

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Speaker 1: in mammals after giving birth. It's nutrient dense heinani bodies,

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Speaker 1: and antioxidants to help build a newborn mammals immune system

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Speaker 1: we obviously know in humans. So lo and behold, there's

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Speaker 1: like going off, like it's worth googling this on TikTok

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Speaker 1: a colostrum supplements.

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Speaker 2: Wow, And I think once TikTok gets hold of something,

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Speaker 2: it booms as well. So that's probably why you're seeing

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Speaker 1: You know, when you say you see something once and

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Speaker 1: then you can't unsee it forever. Well, costrum supplements have

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Speaker 1: hit the market now. These are actually made with bovine colostrum,

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Speaker 1: which actually comes from cows who've just given birth to

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Speaker 1: their calf. The liquid colostrum is pasteurized and dried to

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Speaker 1: create pills and powders, which you then use to put

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Speaker 1: them in your water, your smoothies, or any cool beverage. Now,

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Speaker 1: the people that make these supplements guarantee that the calves

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Speaker 1: But basically markets and influencers are jumping on and promoting

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Speaker 1: these pills and powders and saying that cow colostrum are

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Speaker 1: the next miracle health elixa for humans, and the claims

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Speaker 1: are unbelievably long strength and immunity, ignite metabolism, fortified gut health,

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Speaker 1: improve mood and focus, supports sleep, reduced wrinkles, and optimize

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Speaker 2: To do exactly have a baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're basically being marketers having similar benefits in

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Speaker 1: adults as colostrum does when infants, you know, drink it

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Speaker 1: from the breast or the bottle. So do they deliver well?

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Speaker 1: The evidence is pretty shallow perfect. I couldn't really find

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Speaker 2: Great disregard understood forget it. Yeah. It kind of forms

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Speaker 2: part of that ongoing thing about ingestible wellness that's such

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Speaker 2: a hot topic at the moment, which I think some

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Speaker 2: of the research is really strong for some products, some

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Speaker 2: things like collagen, but maybe this is not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd pass on this.

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Speaker 2: Would you take to the cows for the time being, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I would not. I would not. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty milk adjacent a lot of the time, so the

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Speaker 2: thought of colostrum tablets does not feel great for me.

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Speaker 2: But who knows, Give it a couple of years, maybe

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Speaker 2: the science behind it will improve, and then I'll jump

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Speaker 2: on the bandwagon. Yeah, I'm always open to it.

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Speaker 1: and most clicked story of the week.

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Speaker 2: Most clicked story was about the four types of food

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Speaker 2: you should avoid to lower your risk of developing cancer.

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Speaker 2: Of course, balance is key, and we always subscribe to

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Speaker 2: everything in moderation, especially here a body and soul. But

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Speaker 2: carcinogenic and it kind of weighs in on that ultra

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Speaker 2: process food thing that we're seeing a lot of at

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Speaker 2: the moment. But some of the others you might find surprising.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say one, so we know one

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Speaker 2: Process food would be one of them. So like really

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Speaker 2: sugary things like donuts and stuff like that, which is

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Speaker 2: a bummer, But I don't mind it, don't. I love

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Speaker 1: But oh well, it's the Ish we live.

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Speaker 2: We love the Ish. Yeah. Anyway, you can find the

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Speaker 2: rest of them in the show notes if you want

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Speaker 2: to have a read.

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Speaker 1: If you do want to read any of the above,

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