1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, the city of dreams, where the possibilities are 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: endless and the only limit, the only limit is your imagination. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Good for the third year running, this is. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: Where the National Rugby League has daringly. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Chosen to kickoff its Prediceship season. Our amazing game played 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: out in a far away theater. Come in Las Vegas 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: for Heaven's sake, the land of eternal Saturday Nights, where 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: over the Top is just the beginning. 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Sunday, a Fox League exclusive triple header. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Following hul Kingston Rovers and Leeds Rhydos, the Big League 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: takes center stage. First up, It's the Knights and the 12 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: cow Horse, a big side city that somehow perfectly reflects 13 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: its people. A wonder gils On industry cole and playing 14 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: hard Work's near by, Dylan Brown an understated coach in 15 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: justin Holbrook, and this very familiar superstar run and only 16 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Kaylen Ponger. 17 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: He CA's John. 18 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: Trying to fig got what about him? 19 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: And yes, how. 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: About this other lot? 21 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 5: A world away North Queensland, Ah, They're Cowboys, Tommy did 22 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 5: Sharpeas and the brilliant Scott Drinkwater. 23 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 6: The Cowboys set up. 24 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: Welcome, sir, Welcome. 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Them Cowboys and outfit, right at home in this city 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: of dreams. 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Next up, Next up, it's. 28 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: Dragons and the Bulldogs. 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: It's impossible to tell you about the Bulldogs without first 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: telling you about their culture, their people. Now it's one 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: big celebration down through the generations and how they carry 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: one another through premierships and the player powerhouses, present and 33 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: past champion players like current Captain Stephen Criton. 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, they don't make players like this anymore. Hi, 35 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: you're having a party without me, like Barbar the Great 36 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: Terry Lamb. 37 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Didn't he know how to have fun? 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: Still does? 39 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: And finally the Dragons, the Red v Captain Cliff Gutherson, 40 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Damian Cook, quick as a flash, foul homes, and this 41 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: fella Jade Sewer can't he go. 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: Sas away? 43 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 7: To kick off twenty twenty six, the NRL back in Vegas, 44 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 7: daring the dreams, the biggest of dreams. 45 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: Right here on Fox League. 46 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 8: Hello, we welcome to Winter Roll three sixty Rugby League 47 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 8: from every angle, brought to you by a macas and 48 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 8: live in the entertainment quarter capital of the world, Las Vegas. 49 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 8: In the first episode is right here with Gordon Tallis 50 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 8: Andrew Webster and Brent Reid And how good is it 51 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 8: boys to be back again in Las Vegas? 52 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: And what about the view? 53 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: How good is it? 54 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 6: How good? 55 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: It's a good spot, and look good to. 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: Be here, and you've dressed for the occasion. 57 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's my big game jacket, big week jacket. 58 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 9: Ready just only shifted the flamingo. 59 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: Buy a new jacket. But how good is it? 60 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 10: Like, it's so good to be back starting the season. 61 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 10: And I'm never going to get sick of Las Vegas? 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: What about you Webby? 63 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I got it yesterday. It's you know what I love? 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 9: I just love how this is the third time I've 65 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 9: been here for these games, like all of us, and 66 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 9: just how the streets come alive with Rugby League fanji here. 67 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 9: You know, I was at a bar last night unsurprisingly 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 9: as a guy, a horse rader from aunt Isa. There 69 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 9: was a truck driver from Victoria. So you know they're 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 9: all converged on Vegas to celebrate the game. 71 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 11: We've got to hear show it tonight on a triple 72 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 11: How they coming your way on Fox League this weekend? 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 3: But what are we most looking forward to this week? 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: You know, we'll brak. I'm looking forward to calor Pier. 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 12: You know, you know my love love with I love 76 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 12: affair of the former family. He looks fit. I've seen 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 12: him this week. I've spoken of Poplar Newcastle. He's in 78 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 12: tip top shape and he loves the big stage. I 79 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 12: think he's got a big game tomorrow night, sorry not 80 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 12: tomorrow Saturday night. 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 9: I'm actually just what I mentioned before. I'm looking forward 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 9: to seeing Bulldogs fans march. 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 6: To Allegiance Allegiance Stadium. 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 9: You know, around midday on Saturday, they're going to fill 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 9: up the Las Vegas trip. 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: Who needs Belmore Road, Let's. 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 9: Do Las Vegas Boulevard and they'll certainly be the add 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 9: the color and the excitement to this game. 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 10: Well, I saw drying the pressure. So you've got the Cowboys, 90 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 10: Dragons and Knights. They probably didn't have the greatest season, 91 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 10: so I'm looking forward to see how high they can 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 10: bounce back. And the Dogs, well, you know, we're going 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 10: to talk to the coach and captain later on to 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 10: see what they've got for the year. 95 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: A couple of games he's at this week, mass, What 96 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: are you're looking forward to them? 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 10: Absolutely, you know, I think the Cowboys have to go 99 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 10: on home and the officers, and you just know that 100 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 10: there's a fair bit of pressure on that organization to. 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Get back to where they should be. 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 10: The Dragons are they all disappointing last year? And then 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 10: the Knights now there are very proud region when it 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 10: comes to rugby league, so you think that they want 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 10: to bounce back as well. 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 11: Now we hear the NRL and Peter val and he's 107 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 11: staying in the US. So we've been here for three 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 11: years to five year deal. Is he going to remain 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 11: in Vegas for the next two years and or one 110 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 11: of the other ideas that you've been hearing. 111 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 9: It'll definitely stay here for the next two years. There's 112 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 9: no real appetite to movie because it's been so successful. 113 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 9: I know Peters is a good salesman for his product. 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 9: He's talked about Miami and I think he's pushing ahead 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 9: for Global Round next year for sure. You know, it's 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 9: doubtful that it'll happen next year, but that's certainly part 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 9: of his grand vision. I don't think they should move 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 9: if they get to go anywhere, maybe La maybe so 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 9: Fight Stadium an incredible, you know, six billion dollars stadium there. 120 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 9: But this is perfect for what we do. You know, 121 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 9: it's got everything that you need right here. You can 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 9: walk to the stadium and vegue. If there's any city 123 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 9: in the US that speaks Rugby League, it's Vegas. 124 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 12: Yeah. 125 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: There's talked that make a profit this year pretty never 126 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: got a profit. 127 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 12: Break with us tells you how much this product's taken off. 128 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: And I think I'm with Webby. I think Vegas is 129 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: the perfect place for it. 130 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 12: But if you are going to expand, which I imagine 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 12: they will down the track, I think England's the other 132 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 12: destination you got to go to. 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: I think super League needs help. 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 12: I think we need to play games at Wembley, but 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 12: I hate to see them leave Vegas. 136 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: I think play more games overseas than opening around. I 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: think it'll happen down the track. 138 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 11: Very exciting for the NRL, groundbreaking really for Andy's and 139 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 11: his team doing a magnificent job. But this is n 140 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 11: RL three sixty so let's get to the big stories, 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 11: and the first one is paying Haass moving from the 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 11: Brisbane Broncos to the South Sydney Rabbitos at court. Everybody 143 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 11: off guard journo's give me something out of this happen? 144 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 12: Well, A great made Michael carry Out has got the 145 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 12: tip on this and he actually run me. I I 146 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 12: was actually a pub Braith on the weekend off and 147 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 12: Rave made a couple of calls and we firmed it 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 12: up and obviously the news came out later that afternoon. 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 12: But look, I don't think this is one thing. I 150 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 12: think it's a combination of factors. Everyone's pointing the finger 151 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 12: of Michael maguire and it's hard not to think that's 152 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 12: played a part. When you hear Pain and his agent 153 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 12: talk so positively about Wayne Bennett. I mean that reflects 154 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 12: to me on the current coach because they've spoken. 155 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: So glowingly about Wayne. So yeah, I think there's a 156 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: part of this is Madge, But I don't think it's 157 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: just madaged. I think there's this. Is this a cocktail 158 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: of things that led to him leaving Brisbane? What what 159 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: is the cocktail? Money? What's money? Family? 160 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 11: Yes, money, so you got more money, you got more 161 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 11: money and stead but it's been real important that it's 162 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 11: close to the same amount of money and the goats. 163 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: It's still more. 164 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: They got it, but the godis in ther cost more. 165 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Risbane didn't have right or apply either. Right he made 166 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: the decision, That's what I mean. 167 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 11: So if it was money, he would have went back 168 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 11: to Brisbane and asked for another offer. 169 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 9: For me, it's nothing more sinister. 170 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 6: Than Wayne Bennett getting his man. 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 9: You know, I reckon one would have been working on 172 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 9: him for months and months and Wayne, not only you know, 173 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 9: gets one up on his old club, the Broncos, he 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 9: also shuts the door on the Roosters, who has a 175 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 9: long tainted history with I've been told by people internally 176 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 9: it's house that he was never happier than when he 177 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 9: got painhas on the book. 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 11: Listen, no one's surprised with the fact that he's gone there, 179 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 11: and a big reason for that is Wayne. Wayne's a genius. 180 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 11: They've got a relationship as it is. He's like a 181 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 11: father figure. He'd be fantastic for paint. So I don't 182 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 11: think anyone's denying that or thinking that that isn't a 183 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 11: big reason. But a lot of people are saying that 184 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 11: it's got something to do with match. 185 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: Now. 186 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 11: I want to hear what all three of your opinions 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 11: are on it, because I look at it, it's very 188 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 11: regardless of or disregard Wayne, he's at a premier club. 189 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: It's has won a premiership. 190 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 11: But the coach he's only been there for one year 191 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 11: and won a premiership in his first year. He's got 192 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 11: probably one of the best, if not the best, rosters 193 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 11: alongside of him that could forge adynasty over the next 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 11: two to three years. He could have demanded more money 195 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 11: in Brisbane and got his family's in Brisbane or hear 196 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 11: he's got a good lifestyle up in Brisbane. So although 197 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 11: the way in a big pulling cart, there was a 198 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 11: hell of a lot keeping him there. 199 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 9: There's been plenty of you know, plenty of speculations, but 200 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 9: I don't know. 201 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 6: I don't know. 202 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 9: These people have known that a pain and the players 203 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 9: at the club, but I can understand why publicly they're 204 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 9: not going. 205 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 6: To come out and say it's Madge. 206 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 9: You know he he's still going to play there and 207 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 9: he's a respectful blow paint. 208 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: So but I will say this, I will. 209 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 9: Say this though about about Madge when he won a 210 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 9: compat sALS. His way of getting them to use these 211 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 9: words with me in an interview to climb them out 212 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 9: and again was to double down and go as hard 213 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 9: as he did in terms of their training methods. And 214 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 9: he says, you know, some players weren't prepared to go 215 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 9: that far again. But whether that's a playing, whether that 216 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 9: play again, it's going to be the big question. And 217 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 9: I guess we're going to know in time. 218 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: What's your take? 219 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: Goody, Well, for me, it's a surprise because Pain all 220 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: the noise. 221 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 10: Look, he's off contract every second year, right. I thought 222 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 10: R three sixty was going to be maybe a chance 223 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 10: to go to South after winning a competition. That's the 224 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 10: surprise of leaving Brisbane with their budget. 225 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: Normally they keep their man. That was a surprise. 226 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: I was shocked. 227 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: Why did Pain leave? 228 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 10: I reckon that's a sixty four million dollar question because 229 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 10: if he's getting roughly the same amount of money, roughly 230 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 10: the same amount of money, I think it doesn't speak wholly. 231 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: For Bristoine, this is the same story he heard the 232 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: start of last year. 233 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 12: Mate Buzz was talking about army camps and it's a 234 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 12: few buckets. 235 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: He talked about him for six months they won a cap. Yeah, 236 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: so you know, you can. 237 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 12: Criticize magic methods and a lot of people do a 238 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 12: lot of people think he goes too far and maybe 239 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 12: it's and look it's probably played a partners to an extent, 240 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 12: but they work The intriguing thing for me break is 241 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 12: at some point this year, I imagine manage, we'll go to 242 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 12: that club and ask for a payball for a contract extension. 243 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 12: If you're Brisbane, I'm not sure he can give it 244 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 12: to him because because we've all heard the look I 245 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 12: said last year to extend? 246 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: How do you know? 247 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 12: Not? 248 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: What do we just say? No? 249 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 11: What do we judge of Michael maguire on He's gone 250 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 11: there in one year and won a premiership with the team, 251 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 11: haven't even kicked the ball in the year two? 252 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: Like, what are we judging him on? 253 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 11: He's passed on what's happened in the past where he's 254 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 11: had success and then not continued. 255 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: But I'm sure you've heard the run things as well. 256 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 12: That look, as I said, part of the part of 257 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 12: paness decision is probably allowed to manage. I'm not saying 258 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 12: it all is, but we've all heard that he's not 259 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 12: the only player. 260 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: There's other players in that club. 261 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: Are you worried? Are you worried other players might follow? 262 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Well? 263 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 12: When I when this story broke, if someone rung me 264 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 12: close to that club had. 265 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: Said this is the tip of the iceberg. 266 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 12: Now, look, players calm down, They calmed down last season. 267 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: We all because as I said, we all heard. 268 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 12: The rumlings last season things come down and went on. 269 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: Did he change his ways halfway through? Well, Buzz claimed 270 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: he did. Yeah. 271 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 12: I'm not sure the mager's got an in to change 272 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 12: his ways, does he? And we're seeing how they're training now. 273 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't don't. I'm not sure he can change his 274 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: ways And why would you when you win? COM's doing 275 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: it that way, That's what I mean. 276 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 6: You will know you can. 277 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 9: You can win a comp with the players, you know, 278 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 9: maybe not having the full support of the coach. 279 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: You can do it once, but I don't know if 280 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 6: he can do it back to back. 281 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: That's the issue. 282 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: Do you think he's got to change Gordy or not? 283 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 10: Well, normally you do with like I think parenting has changed, right, 284 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 10: so like I got a twenty two year old kid, 285 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 10: I parent my seven year old different to the way 286 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 10: I did back then because you got to change with 287 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 10: the current breed go on and spending time with the 288 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 10: Australian side, I was so nervous. But to see the 289 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 10: young kids the way they come and now they're totally professional. Yeah, 290 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 10: they're totally different to me. You could have told me 291 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 10: what to do and I would have went out there 292 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 10: and did it. They don't do that anymore. I think 293 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 10: it's more of a why why are you know? I 294 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 10: think you've got to massage the player more and maybe Madge, 295 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 10: you know, Kenny Kenny change to do that. I'm not 296 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 10: one hundred percent sure because I'm not their daughter. Sorry, 297 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 10: day to day. 298 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 11: What about the Broncos. They've lost the World Club Challenge 299 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 11: to Hull f KR. 300 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: Sorry of the last three. 301 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I'm not really I'm not reading that 302 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: by any means. I'm just stating what's what's happened. 303 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 11: And then Payne has decided to move to move on next. 304 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: Year to the Bunnies. 305 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 11: Uh And a few people, a few experts already were 306 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 11: a little concerned about them backing up this year. Everyone's 307 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 11: talking about Madge and second year and training as hard 308 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 11: as they do. 309 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: In the preseason. 310 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 11: Are we worried about them this year or do we 311 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 11: think they start where they finished? 312 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 9: And I think they can get They caught fire later 313 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 9: in the season, you know, like that. We'll never see 314 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 9: a run like that from a team or a run 315 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 9: like that from a player and res worlds really ever again? 316 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 6: It was his competition, that's right. 317 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 10: But the Raiders had them beaten, Penrith had them beaten 318 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 10: and Melbourne if you talk to Melbourne, well, if you 319 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 10: go talk with those three teams behind closed doors, I 320 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 10: reckon they had that. 321 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: They lost those games. Brisbane were fantastic. 322 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 10: The run, respulsion, the Grand Fine probably the greatest I 323 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 10: think eighty minutes that I've watched at that level. But 324 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 10: I think they can do it again. But it's got 325 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 10: to be player driven. 326 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: But you're talking about finals, it's player driven. 327 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm not so much talking about the run they 328 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 11: had last year and Reese was on fire and all that. 329 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 11: I mean the fact that Hars is moving on. They've 330 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 11: lost the World Club Challenge. Not again, I'm not reading 331 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 11: too far into that, but it's a couple of hurdles 332 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 11: early on could have derailed. 333 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 10: But they've got two thirty six year old half backs 334 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 10: that didn't finish the game. So that's the elephant in 335 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 10: the room. They got young kids. So are you keeping 336 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 10: the best front rower arguably to play the game or 337 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 10: you're keeping two thirty six year old halfbacks. I think 338 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 10: they got that upside down, Like I really do, payn 339 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 10: Hats has to be at the club and he's not now, 340 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 10: so they got to move forward, so they got to 341 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 10: see not this year. 342 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: This is their last chance to dive through. The premis 343 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: only concerned them. 344 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 12: I think Pain is the sort of guy guy who, 345 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 12: now have you made the decision, will focus on winning 346 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 12: your pomp because he's that sort of guy that driven 347 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 12: and I think he saw recent a book on challenged. Look, 348 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 12: he didn't have a great first off, no one did. 349 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 12: Second half he inspired a comeback. I'm not I'm not 350 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 12: overly concerned about him, but I'm not ruling out the 351 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 12: things go pear shaped at some point. 352 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: YEP. 353 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: I agree. 354 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: I think the Broncos will be fine. 355 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 11: I'm a bit worried about players moving and all the rest, 356 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 11: but I actually think they're still gonna have a very 357 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 11: good season. Zak Lomax, what about this about you? I've 358 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 11: missed anner all three sixties because this would have been 359 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 11: duced over the last few months. 360 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot going on. 361 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 11: And Zach was told see you later by Peter Valandi's 362 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 11: because he'd apparently agreed to terms with R three sixty. 363 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 11: That felt through and now Melbourne Storm want him and 364 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 11: the annals seemed to be pushing him that way just 365 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 11: the optics. I don't know, I could be wrong. Where 366 00:15:59,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 11: are we at here? 367 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 6: Well, it's very interesting. So they're repetit for the Supreme 368 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 6: Court next Monday morning in the New South Wales Supreme 369 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 6: Court where it's going to come to a head. 370 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 9: Whether he's got more on this than me, but whether 371 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 9: there's a deal done between now and then. 372 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 6: Times time is running out. It's very interesting. 373 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 9: The Paramatta have dug in as hard as they have 374 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 9: and subpoenaed. 375 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: The n r L. 376 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 9: So we're going to find out sooner or than later 377 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 9: exactly just how complicit the NRL was as the governing 378 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 9: body in trying to get a player to go to Melbourne. 379 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 6: They've been going to great lengths. 380 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 9: When ever, I've talked to Andrew Rabdo and Peter Vlandi 381 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 9: saying that that's not the case. I did an interview 382 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 9: with Peter Alandi's for The Australian last week in which 383 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 9: he said, look, I don't care what CLUBB he goes to, 384 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 9: as long as it's you know not, we don't lose 385 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 9: him to the game. The game doesn't need zaclomax. The 386 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 9: guy wanted out. We wanted to get to add for money. 387 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 9: The guy wanted to add for money. The guy wanted 388 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 9: to add for money, and then he left. He left 389 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 9: on on on certain conditions and now once because it's 390 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 9: all fallen over. That is not the game's responsibility to say, Zach. 391 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 10: Can I can I put a fans hat on? If 392 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 10: I'm Paramatter fan and he goes, I'm going to Rugby, Okay, 393 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 10: see you I want to go to Melbourne Storm, I'd 394 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 10: say no, So wouldn't you be on Paramatter side? 395 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 6: Of course? 396 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 12: Of course, I think most people are, except for. 397 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: The next to me might have something. 398 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 12: I'm not saying Paramatter shouldn't get something from Zach Lamax. 399 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: I think they should. 400 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 12: I think they should get financially compensated, which they will 401 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 12: do at some point. But what if they might do? 402 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 12: What did Paramatter expect? He broke a contract to go 403 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 12: to Paramatter. 404 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: Right he did? What did they? Why are they shocked 405 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: by this? 406 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 12: And also how many clubs are chasing Zach Lamax right now? 407 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 6: Not many? 408 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 12: Only one as far as I know, there's not many 409 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 12: of the reached out to Zach Lamax society. 410 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 11: They want to chase him now with everything going on, 411 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 11: there's there's people being subpoened, there's there's messages. 412 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: Experience Christmas. 413 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 12: There was four or five when clubs are after him 414 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 12: at Christmas heard that match. 415 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: No, there weren't. No, that's he correct, that was wrong. 416 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 12: The lawyer went to paramatter and said, how would you 417 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 12: feel about it if you went to one of these 418 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 12: three clubs, Camber, the Bears and Melbourne. 419 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: He never approached Camber, they were just hype at the club. 420 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: Other clubs were interested. 421 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 12: Cambra came out public and said we have no interest 422 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 12: in zachlo Max. We don't want to sign him the cat. 423 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 12: So maybe the Bears would have had a shot at him. 424 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 12: So there aren't that many clubs beating a part to 425 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 12: Zachlamex's door, given his history. Bro who signed, Well, I 426 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 12: think he's I think he should be back in the game. 427 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 12: I want to see him back in the game. But 428 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 12: he's a great. 429 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Player playing for who Well, no one. 430 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 12: Of the only club of the moments oftened him in 431 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 12: contract cording, no one else has. 432 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: I'd love to see him in Melbourne. 433 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 6: You're going to live with your decisions at some time 434 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: in your life. 435 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 12: That doesn't mean you to be That doesn't mean you 436 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 12: should be prevented, prevent prevented from ever playing rugby league again. 437 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 6: Contract. You shouldn't have said the condition in the contract. 438 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 12: Of Really he signed a contract before he went to 439 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 12: Paramatta and paramatter aptly talking. 440 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: That stripid logic. 441 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 6: Because when I could, he didn't. There wasn't a condition 442 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 6: of his relate Georgia. 443 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 10: You keep on taking people break contract You're unlucky like 444 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 10: bots break contraction, right, Zach. 445 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 9: Lohanax breaks contracts, so he should be able to go to. 446 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: He shouldn't be He should have been defended from. 447 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 6: Turning, should be prevented the casino. 448 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: So you're saying that's it, Zach, don't play the game, get. 449 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 6: Something, and it just said that. 450 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: No one saying he should never play every again. 451 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 11: It needs to be some sort of punishment for the 452 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 11: actions that he's we're talking to ten year band to 453 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 11: all of. 454 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: A sudden, playing next was never going to happen. 455 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 11: Well, okay, hang on, I was never going to have 456 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 11: I want to know what, right, no one, no one once? 457 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 12: He once and through the ten year bands. Yeah, they 458 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 12: have gone backed off anyway, playing half backed off. Joe 459 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 12: Grace on a your deal with house Bloats backed off. 460 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 10: You think Paramatta have the upper hand. Should they get 461 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 10: some compensation and. 462 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: The money. 463 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: It's not about the money. 464 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 12: So you want to player who doesn't want to go 465 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 12: to Paramatter to be sent there, because no one in 466 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 12: Milman wants to go to Para Matters. I understand some 467 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 12: of the players that they want. 468 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: That's the predicament that he saw the contract Lomax. It's 469 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 6: not on Paramatter. 470 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: So don't they gave him a release under certain terms? 471 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 6: What the term would? 472 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: What were the terms? 473 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: What were the want a compensation for? 474 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 11: What were the terms when Zach Lomak signed the contracts 475 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 11: and lean Paramatter, what were the terms? There? 476 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 3: Was there any term that said that he didn't have 477 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: to play for. 478 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: Another team under certain conditions? 479 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 12: Yes, say no more? Okay, say that's sorry? Is that 480 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 12: don't ever play Rugul League? 481 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: That's not what I said. 482 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 11: There just needs to be some sort of punishment for 483 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 11: making this. Our game needs to have balls, you know, 484 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 11: we need to stand by the decisions that we make. 485 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 11: We're going to come out and pump our chests and 486 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 11: say it's a ten year band. How do we let 487 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 11: a player play the next season for making a decision 488 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 11: that he chose to make the punishment and I don't 489 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 11: care about the money. 490 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 12: About the money, well, then what happens that's not moneyed 491 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 12: playing arrests? 492 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: Give him a spell? 493 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 10: Can I just ask you once just to jump on 494 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 10: the fan? So, and what's best for the game? 495 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: What's best the games to have Zach Climax playing Rugby 496 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: League club where he signs his contract ParaMed He didn't 497 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: want to happy let him go to Rugby Union, not 498 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: to Melbourne Storm. 499 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: Under the circumstances that were happy to let him go. 500 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about that great mate, Buzzy, Buzzy Rothfield. 501 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: That's a time I'm going to miss buzz you. 502 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 11: Know, it's it's it was congratulations Buzzy. We miss you already. 503 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 11: We thought you were going to be here in Vegas. 504 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 11: Hope that you're watching. But what about Buzz? I mean, 505 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 11: you guys have. 506 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 6: You left my podcast? 507 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: T right? So was he such a cult figure? 508 00:21:53,600 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 6: A cult figure he wasn't get because because he's a 509 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 6: lovable rogue. 510 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 9: You know, TV was the best thing that happened to 511 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 9: him in many ways, because he said, because people got 512 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 9: people got to see the Alarican buzz and you guys 513 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 9: used to beat him up, and he used to get 514 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 9: fans out. 515 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: He loved it. He loved every bit of a Buzzy. 516 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. But like we gave to to but 517 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: we walk off heir, shake hands. 518 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 11: He told me the next day we'd have a laugh 519 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 11: and we we we you know, we respected each other. 520 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 11: But yeah, one thing about Buzz is he he got 521 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 11: stories no one else will get, you know. And and 522 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 11: he he had the you know what to to come 523 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 11: on air and to take anyone on and to. 524 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: Deliver those stories. 525 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 11: And he worked very hard and I'm sure working alongside him. 526 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: Ready, you would have seen it first here. 527 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 12: I mean and dad, every Monday night, after I leave 528 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 12: the show, right, I got high and ask how the 529 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 12: show goes. And I always say to me or my 530 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 12: mom says, don't really again into your poor Johnson Buzz. 531 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: Because I love him. 532 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 12: I used to say the same, that's that's what television 533 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 12: and three six he did. 534 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: The Buzz humanized him. 535 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, I reckon the last eighteen months, that was the 536 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 10: most question. 537 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: Leave Buzz. He loved it. 538 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 10: And I think playing a role. I think in this game, 539 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 10: you've got to play some roles. And I thought I 540 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 10: still call him the old crocodile, and I matter how 541 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 10: much you're feeding. I mean, he's going to buy you. 542 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 10: But he was ben. 543 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: Sorry for having an opinion. What about some story? You 544 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: got a story for us? 545 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 9: I'm trying to fight me. The first time I met 546 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 9: him after party in two thousand and five. When I 547 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 9: joined the Telegraph in two thousand and nine, Bozo Fulton 548 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 9: and I went on particularly good terms and we had 549 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 9: a big Barnie on the phone and I went out 550 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 9: over to buzz I said, I reckon, I had to 551 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 9: get a call from Boso inny minutes. Sure was enough 552 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 9: the phone, The phone rung and buzz goes. I promised 553 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 9: him editorial independence when he joined the joined from the Herald, 554 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 9: and Bozo goes it hasn't stopped in the past. 555 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: What about you already? You got any for us? 556 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 12: He just had a great contact book. Didn't you a 557 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 12: noun of times you bring up with a tip? There's 558 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 12: so many stories he gave to other journalists that he 559 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 12: didn't write himself. 560 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: He's happy to share as a great men, talk to 561 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of us. 562 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: All right, when you get too a break after we're 563 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: going to catch up with the bulldogs. Coach and captain. 564 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 11: But before we go, here are Summer Buzzy's absolute best 565 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 11: breaking news buzz over the past the hour. 566 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: It's all way through it. 567 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 13: Dylan Brown, Paramatterel spy Day has signed for ten years 568 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 13: at the Newcastle Knights. Your manage to try to tell 569 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 13: me that you were strictly a corporate ambassador. Mine was 570 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 13: a question of your ability to juggle to roles. 571 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: You started last week. 572 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 13: I gave him a say, which is fair. 573 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: I allowed him to tell his story. 574 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 13: Buzzy, I love you and you do it feelings of 575 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 13: mutual but what you do in this business? 576 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: Ready? 577 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 13: Please to me now and again you've got to says 578 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 13: I might. 579 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 10: Have got this wrong. 580 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 6: I was wrong. 581 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 12: Now, I was wrong. 582 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Bother, thank you? 583 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 6: Next, please. 584 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: Take away. 585 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: Look, I don't want to. 586 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 13: Sound like a broken record. 587 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: A player has left the club. Bottom line is and 588 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: the statistics don't lie here. 589 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 13: Sin bins are up one hundred and forty percent. 590 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 7: Fitted out what wrong? 591 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: I can't do. I'm just asking you a question. 592 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 13: If you want me to see here on a Monday 593 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 13: night and not have an opinion, I'm for having just 594 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 13: like I am. 595 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 3: I'm having to say quiet, I'm so. 596 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 13: Really his opinion, but you're there to have an opinion. 597 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 13: I just don't agree with the fair enough and what