1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Dave Gral the news broak yesterday. He's 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: pretty big confession, Dave confession, you know what, it's rock. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: To me a bit. No, that's just not a part. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: That's just I don't know. I look at Dave Gral. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: I look up to Dave Grael because I did it. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: I see the way that he talks about his daughters, 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: and I see him as a father and a loving father, 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: and I and I've read his book, The Storyteller, and 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: I think that he's got great morals and values. 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: He's been around, you know what, he can tell a story. Yeah, 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: he's a rock star. 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 3: So he spoke about how he partied a bit when 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: he was younger. But he's in that sense he's always been, 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 3: you know, really good and done the right thing, and 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: you know, he's looked after himself. But this just I 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: didn't see it coming. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: I think there was a lot of a lot of 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: things floating around in the news yesterday that there was 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: a big part of the community who may have been 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: for this to happen, who kind of knew that this 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: was the behavior over a long period of time, that 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: there were signs and there were stories and that there's 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: a sense of relief that well, finally the guy who 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 4: has presented so well, like you're saying, fits and this 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: is just hearsay and what I've read, and that they're 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: kind of like, well, finally he's actually not that guy. 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it doesn't change his love for his 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: family and his kids, of course it doesn't. I mean, 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: there's but. 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 1: The healing process now. 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: And do you think the Instagram post was part of 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: you need to own this? That's not the wife and 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: the family saying you need to own this. 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: You know what I actually thought this morning when I 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: first thought this morning about this was this has probably 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: been on the cards for a while. The announcement has 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: had to be made, and very carefully. They decided to 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: release the news of the love child on the day 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: of the debate years because there's a much bigger news 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: story fighting around and would be buried. 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: What a perfect what a perfect day release the story. 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: I think that has not been considered shadowed. 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: And also Joshadow carry beyond it from. 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: That time exactly and us doing one hundred thousand dollar 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: a minute. 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: We timed that as well, really badly. Here's the thing though, 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: as we talk about this, and you know, we touched 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: on it yesterday. So his wife Jordan plum Blum is 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: her name, not plump Blum, just one. They've been just 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: the one Plump. They've been together for over twenty years, right, 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: so we understand that. And a girlfriend, Tina Brush. I 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: think I know miss She has come out and she said, well, 54 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: I dated him for a very long time and he 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: was very busy in his career. 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: She was the skateboarder or the she was the snowboarder. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: Pioneered this female snowboarding. 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: I thought they were married with no, no, I don't 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: thinks has been married before you, But I think. 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: That might be Luis Post who was the Veruca sult singer, 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: because that was another previous lover who she's come out 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: in overtime and has declared him one of the great cheats. 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: So she said that music came first, and Dave's lifestyle 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: came first as well, and that she wasn't really a priority, 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: so he was cheating on me at the time I 66 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: was publicly falling apart on stage. 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: Can I throw a moral dilemmer at you? Do you 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: think anyone would have known of the known is oh yes, 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: if the baby didn't arride. 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: Yes, because those quotes from the ex girlfriend who was 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: the snowboarder, they have been They were written in her book, 72 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: which was released years ago, so at that time that 73 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: obviously I don't know whether that news was floating around 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: or it just didn't get traction. It's just that because 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: the baby's been announced, the press have trawled through everything 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: that's been said previously. This woman hasn't come out now 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: and said this, this is stuff. 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: We've already listened to this Kate Richie, she said, I 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: didn't know this is Tina, this is the snowboarder. I 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: didn't know how anybody in his profession could have a 81 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: normal relationship with a girlfriend or two. As it turns out, 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: she said, I found out about Groll's alleged infidelity second 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 2: hand through the grapevine, and it felt like everybody else 84 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: in the world knew about it. 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: But me, which can be the worst thing, really being 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: treated like a fool. 87 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: I would suggest we were we might actually hear a 88 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: few more stories that come out about Dave. 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: I googled this morning person. I googled Dave Grohl because 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: I was waiting for someone else. 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any mockn fashions. 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised teamz in that would you would have 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: to be thinking they would have to find out who 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: the who the mistress is? 95 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, I would think, so you mean the mother of 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: the baby. Yeah, I would assume that's to try and 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: work out the link there. 98 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: There'll be a few phone calls being made. Madly, do 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: you know this person? Whatever you got, we've got some cash. 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: I mean, this happens in outside of the celebrity world, 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: in every day a life. How did you find out 102 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: there was another baby? 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: But I love child, love child child. 104 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: How did you find out there was someone else and 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: a baby had been conceived? Ahmadin? Hello, Hello, you got 106 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: a story here for us? 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: Yes, I do. 108 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: What happened very similar. 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: So I was married with my husband and we had 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 5: our daughter, which was amazing, and when she was about 111 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 5: nine months old, I got a call and it was 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: another woman which actually my husband had an asfer with 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 5: her at the same time we were conceiving our daughter. 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: So she had a son which was the exact image 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: of my daughter. Because the judit were two day apart. 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 4: Oh no way, been a very gacy period for you. 117 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: Did you find out that was he at the other birth? 118 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: Did he get to the other birth without you knowing? 119 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Martin? 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: To be honest, I don't know because he was walking 121 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 5: night shift at the time and daughter ended up being 122 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 5: born a bit early, so I don't know if it 123 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: was at work or if he could have gone. I 124 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 5: actually have never had the detail for that. 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: So you must have been in shock when you got 126 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: this phone call. Did you How did you react to 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: you said, this can't be true, or. 128 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: To be honest, it just it did feel true straight away. 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: I think from his character it made sense, right. 130 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: You thought he may have been that kind of guy, 131 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: did you. 132 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: Well? I was hoping not. But when she did call 133 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 5: me and tell me the story, I was just like, yeah, okay, 134 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 5: I can see it happen. So I just said he 135 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 5: was working night shift, so it was easy to yeah, 136 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 5: to go around. 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and what and then what happened? You have a 138 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: phone call like that, What happens with the relationship and 139 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: the children that have been born? 140 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: Oh? Well, it's obviously the relationship can't survive at this 141 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: For us, he didn't survive. I couldn't get past such 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: a terrible thing. Yeah, we ended up separating. 143 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Did he have an excuse o, madam? What was his 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: first response? 145 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 5: There was no first response, just he was just trying 146 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: to convince me to stay instead of talking about what happened. Right, Yeah, 147 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: but his excuse was just like, oh, I wasn't sending 148 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 5: good morning text and things like that, so you felt lonely, 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: so you felt like. 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Talking about fault. 151 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: Of course it was my fault. 152 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: That makes complete sense. 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: And was he on tour at the time as well? 154 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Martin was what band was he a part of? 155 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: Or now he was. 156 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: Maybe the same band? I don't know. 157 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: And you're okay now you had How old is your child? 158 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: She's about two and a half years old. Now I'm 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 5: trying to rebuild my life. 160 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Groov Marden. That's not easy. 161 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's not bad. 162 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: No play groove Marden, Tom no or no, no, we 163 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: can't do that, can we not? I just so, now, 164 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: what is the relationship? So what I need to work 165 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: out is Dave girl's wife and children. 166 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: You, I mean, this will take a while to hear. 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: Do you have a relationship with the mother and the 168 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: daughter or the baby that's coming into the world. 169 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think he will. I mean the post yesterday 170 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: suggested he would try and coordinate the whole thing. 171 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 4: Coordinate. Interesting. Well there, it's going to take a bit 172 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: of coordination and management, I would imagine. I just hope 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: everyone's okay, but I think there's some tough and tricky 174 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: conversations to be had. 175 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: Sort that out. Sits in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is 176 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: a Nova podcast to walk great shows like this. Download 177 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: the Nova Player via the App Store or Google Play. 178 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: The Nova Player