WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 16 May

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<v Speaker 1>Le welcome late pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us on. James Macpherson with Liz Storer

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<v Speaker 2>and Caleb Bond Well, the Victorian State government can't afford

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<v Speaker 2>hospitals or cancer research, but wait until you hear what

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<v Speaker 2>they can afford to spend thirty seven million taxpayer dollars on.

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<v Speaker 2>It will blow your mind when we tell you about

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<v Speaker 2>that a little later. Plus when we look at the papers.

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<v Speaker 2>The front page of Tomorrow's Australian outlines Peter Dutton's vision

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<v Speaker 2>for the country. Of course, he stated that during his

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<v Speaker 2>budget reply speech earlier this evening, and the front page

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<v Speaker 2>of Tomorrow's Herald Son reveals just how much stop and

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<v Speaker 2>go sign holders are earning. And I promise you once

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<v Speaker 2>you hear about it, no matter where you are tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>you will pack up and move to Melbourne and apply

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<v Speaker 2>for a job. It's a great wicket if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get on it. But if you live in New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales and you have solar panels on your roof, you

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<v Speaker 2>might want to go out and buy a tar pole

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<v Speaker 2>and to cover them up during the daytime hours. At

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<v Speaker 2>least that's what I would do. After Osgrid announced plans

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<v Speaker 2>to charge householders if they export electricity into the grid

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<v Speaker 2>during daylight hours. The energy company, which owns the poles

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<v Speaker 2>and wires for about two million customers in Sydney and Beyond,

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<v Speaker 2>says that solar panels are producing too much electricity between

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<v Speaker 2>the hours of ten am and three pm when demand

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<v Speaker 2>is low. Now, if that continues, they'll be forced into

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<v Speaker 2>a costly upgrade of their entire network. So what they're

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<v Speaker 2>proposing is to penalize households a one point two cents

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<v Speaker 2>per miller watt hour for electricity that is exported into

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<v Speaker 2>the grid. Now, helpfully, they say, you can avoid this

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<v Speaker 2>penalty by going out and buying a battery, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can just keep the energy rather than pumping it back

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<v Speaker 2>into the grid. And the good news is a battery

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<v Speaker 2>lonely costure about nine thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, with that problem solved.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take up my suggestion, Liz, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>to Bunning and get a top hole and for about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty bucks. Now, if you remove the top and from

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<v Speaker 2>the roof between the hours of four pm and nine

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<v Speaker 2>pm when demand is high, Osgrid will pay you two

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<v Speaker 2>point three cents per killer what hour to put solar

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<v Speaker 2>panel back into the grid. But back to daylight hours, Calebin, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got this situation now where citizens generate electricity that

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<v Speaker 2>we then pay power companies to take off us so

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<v Speaker 2>they can sell back to us at a later date.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a program on the ABC called Utopia which satirizes

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<v Speaker 2>government departments. I mean, they don't need to pay a

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<v Speaker 2>script writer. They're getting their scripts for free.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, I wouldn't be going to Bunnings for

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<v Speaker 4>our taps. I just give the Port Adelaide Football Club

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<v Speaker 4>a call and see if they've got any leftovers that

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<v Speaker 4>they put on the seats at Adelaide Oval because they

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<v Speaker 4>can't get enough fans into the ground. They might lend

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<v Speaker 4>you one. But it is absurd because everyone was told

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<v Speaker 4>to put solar panels on their roof because they would

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<v Speaker 4>get these massive feeding park right.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the idea was that you.

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<v Speaker 4>Put the solar panel on your roof, you generate electricity

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<v Speaker 4>that you then sell to the power companies, and the

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<v Speaker 4>power companies sell that to other people. You are creating

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<v Speaker 4>the power for the power companies and.

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<v Speaker 1>For that you will be rewarded.

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<v Speaker 4>So millions of people across the country have gone out

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<v Speaker 4>spent their money on their solar panels, expecting that they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get a return on investment, and now they're

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<v Speaker 4>told that because everyone has put solar panels on their roofs,

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<v Speaker 4>there's far too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Solar power swimming around.

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<v Speaker 4>Therefore you no longer get any benefit. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>want the benefit, you've got to go and get the

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<v Speaker 4>battery for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 4>A woman posted on X today her power bill. She

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<v Speaker 4>goes by art in lily Dale as her handle, and

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<v Speaker 4>you can see the power bill there that she's posted.

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<v Speaker 4>She's been charged six hundred and thirteen bucks for the quarter.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you have a look, there's a graph there

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<v Speaker 4>that shows the ingoings and outgoing. So that peachy looking

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<v Speaker 4>color is the power she's using. The green is the

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<v Speaker 4>power she has put back into the grid from her

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<v Speaker 4>solar panels. She is putting twice as much power into

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<v Speaker 4>the grid as she is personally using, and she still

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<v Speaker 4>has to pay six hundred dollars for her power. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you would have thought I paid for these bloody solar

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<v Speaker 4>panels so I don't have to pay for the power.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they tear. You've got to pay even more if

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<v Speaker 1>you want the benefit of it. The whole thing has

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<v Speaker 1>been a sham.

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<v Speaker 3>An absolute riff off.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, lady, there goes you three hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 5>from the Helm and easy other to help pay your

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<v Speaker 5>power prices. Not exactly what anyone had in mind, was it. No,

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<v Speaker 5>which is not what they had in mind either. When

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<v Speaker 5>you buy solar panels. My parents did this years ago

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<v Speaker 5>as well, because that turns out the sun actually does

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<v Speaker 5>shine for free. So if you invest in that, you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we're laughing all the way to the bank.

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<v Speaker 3>Well not anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>And wait a minute, wait a minute, aren't we told

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<v Speaker 5>on a daily basis by the government's across this country

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<v Speaker 5>that the more renewables we get into the grid.

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<v Speaker 3>The cheaper energy will be. Here you're being fined for it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're literally being punished for sending renewable energy into the grid.

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<v Speaker 5>And this whole like, oh, well, if it's after four pm,

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<v Speaker 5>then will reward you. You're going to get two point

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<v Speaker 5>three cents per miller watt? What when the sun's going down?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if we're talking about winter here, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>much good after four pm.

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<v Speaker 3>You're really not going to get much bang for your buck.

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<v Speaker 3>At all. And what this does.

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<v Speaker 5>Is punish the poor because now this means that if

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<v Speaker 5>you have solar panels on your house, unless you can

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<v Speaker 5>find a lazy nine grand lying around to invest in

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<v Speaker 5>these batteries, I wonder who battery friends our government has.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you have that money to take that investment, now

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<v Speaker 5>you are screwed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to know why it's consumers problem this

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<v Speaker 2>excess energy. Shouldn't osgrid invest in batteries. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>now a company harvey batteries and solve the problem exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>You think they could harvest the power You've got all

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<v Speaker 4>the extra power swimming around in the system. Isn't it

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<v Speaker 4>the ultimate solution that they no longer have to buy

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<v Speaker 4>as much coal fired power from other generators because they've

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<v Speaker 4>got people literally generating the power.

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<v Speaker 1>For them on their roofs.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a bit like the electric car situation right

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<v Speaker 4>where we're all told, going by an electric car, it's

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<v Speaker 4>the panasee or it's the next big thing. So a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people did go and buy electric cars, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they found out that the more people who did it,

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<v Speaker 4>the more difficult it is to actually make the system

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<v Speaker 4>operate because we don't have the charges. We don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the technology, we don't know how to recycle the batteries.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got low range, et cetera, et cetera. The more

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<v Speaker 4>people you have in the systems, great for those who

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<v Speaker 4>are there at the beginning, right, they got their feed

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<v Speaker 4>in tariffs and made a lot of money at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>But since then it's all fallen apart because we're not

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<v Speaker 4>ready for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Funny about that, and they never they never seem to

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<v Speaker 5>think of the domino effects because part of the whole

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<v Speaker 5>solar panel fiasco as well is, of course they generate

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<v Speaker 5>most of their power during the day when people aren't

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<v Speaker 5>homey don't work, and then what happens is the call

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<v Speaker 5>fired power stations have to rev up big time at

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<v Speaker 5>peak demand, which is when everyone gets home from school,

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<v Speaker 5>everyone gets home from work. Now, the call fired power

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<v Speaker 5>stations weren't designed to do that. So then you've got

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<v Speaker 5>the power generator charging for that because it's semi damaging.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not what coal fired power stations were designed to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly ramp up at four pm every day, the power

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<v Speaker 5>generator is charging for that.

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<v Speaker 3>They pass that charge.

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<v Speaker 5>Onto the power retailer, and the power retailer passes it

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<v Speaker 5>on to us. So, yay, you did get free power

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<v Speaker 5>through your soul while you weren't at home in that day,

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<v Speaker 5>and now you're getting fined for that. Essentially, you're being

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<v Speaker 5>punished for it. And now that you have got home

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<v Speaker 5>and everyone's requiring power right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just way more expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>And we're damaging our coal fired power stations happening to

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<v Speaker 5>ramp them up to top notch at four pm every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I reckon what they should do is they should

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<v Speaker 4>restrict the hours you can use power. But we had

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<v Speaker 4>water restrictions once upon a time. You can only run

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<v Speaker 4>your dish washert during the afternoon, you can only run

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<v Speaker 4>your washing machine during the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Look, I mean they can do anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll happen at some point. I'm not joking. It will

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<v Speaker 1>happen at some point. Scientists have already.

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<v Speaker 4>Talked about the fact that that is where we will

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<v Speaker 4>have to go with the energy, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be relied on renewable energy. While we're on the topic

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<v Speaker 4>of climate and renewable energy and fossil fuels, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>The Walkley Awards, or should we call them the Wokely Awards,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, the top gong in journalism in a Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>They've decided that they will sever their sponsorship with a Ampole,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, is the oil company. You can go to

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<v Speaker 4>any of their service stations and fill your car up

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<v Speaker 4>with diesel or unleaded or whatever it might be. They

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<v Speaker 4>signed on for a two year deal nearly two years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It comes up in October and the Walkleys have said

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<v Speaker 4>we do not want your sponsorship anymore because they've changed

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<v Speaker 4>their policy whereby they now refuse sponsorship from companies that

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<v Speaker 4>quote offer no tangible benefit to humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I would suggest to.

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<v Speaker 4>The committee at the Walkleys that you know, if Ampole

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<v Speaker 4>were to shut down, and every other you know, gas

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<v Speaker 4>company and petrol company, oil company, coal producer in this

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<v Speaker 4>country were to shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>There would be a little bit of a difference to humanity.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd have to stop all the cars, and you'd have

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<v Speaker 4>to stop all the electricity, and you'd have to stop

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<v Speaker 4>all the planes, and you'd have to stop all the tray.

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<v Speaker 4>I think am Pole actually does a fair bit for humanity,

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<v Speaker 4>to be perfectly honest. But the thing I love about

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<v Speaker 4>this the most is that the Walkleys were established in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen fifty six by a man called Sir William Walkley.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, apart from establishing.

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<v Speaker 4>The Walkleys, do you know what else Sir William Walkley

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<v Speaker 4>did have a guess?

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<v Speaker 2>I know the answer, But tell us Caleb, he established

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<v Speaker 2>am Pole.

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<v Speaker 4>For heaven's sake, the man who started the Walkleys started

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<v Speaker 4>am Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the Walkleys.

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<v Speaker 4>Say they don't want money from the company that the

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<v Speaker 4>man who started the Walkley started.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't it ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Walkley Foundation are committed to closing down organizations

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<v Speaker 2>that have no tangible benefit for humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to shut up shop.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd be shutting down the ABC, That's what they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>looking for. I mean. But the irony, of course, is

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<v Speaker 2>delicious that am Pole and Walkley are intimately connected exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>He is also one of their sponsors. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>how about my resources? BHP must be like, well, where

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<v Speaker 5>the next to go? And if I was you, BHP,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd just withdraw my sponsorship. I mean, how ungrateful is

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<v Speaker 5>this that Ampole sponsorship. They had a platinum sponsorship, hundreds

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<v Speaker 5>of thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>They were welcomed into the Wokely family in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Two, and two short years later, they've been given the boot.

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<v Speaker 2>Because last year awards, a bunch of cartoonists boycotted the awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Other journists got very upset that it was sponsored by

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<v Speaker 2>a fossil fuel company. And of course the other upset

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<v Speaker 2>was that there was no specific award for a climate

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<v Speaker 2>change report. But this year ampole are gone and one

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<v Speaker 2>lucky journalist will be rewarded for his climate catastrophe. There'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a special award.

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<v Speaker 5>What this essentially says, and we've seen banks and other

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<v Speaker 5>people start doing this now, being like, oh, we won't

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<v Speaker 5>give loans to anyone associated.

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<v Speaker 3>With coal, oil gas, those.

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<v Speaker 5>Terrible fossil fuels, is that it's a reputational risk now

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<v Speaker 5>to be involved with these companies that, like it or not,

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<v Speaker 5>they make your lifestyle possible in countless ways. Baby, So

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<v Speaker 5>you crossing them off your sponsorship list and then living

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<v Speaker 5>off their backs on a daily basis, in every which way,

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<v Speaker 5>that is the stupidest virtue signaling you can possibly do.

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<v Speaker 2>Would they say it's a reputational risk? I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>imagine these same people when they're filling up their car

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<v Speaker 2>with unleaded are they sort of putting their hand over

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<v Speaker 2>their phone. They don't want to be seen because they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to reputation seeing at a gas station.

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<v Speaker 5>Please, you are gushing emissions every single day, just like

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of them, as you probably flew a plane

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<v Speaker 5>to attend the Woke Please but no, they say their

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<v Speaker 5>new sponsorship policy contains an explicit focus on ethics and

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<v Speaker 5>working with sponsors that share their woke values a climate communism.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one person who won't be catching a plane, it

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<v Speaker 4>would seem, is Australian runner Adams. Now he was expecting

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<v Speaker 4>he would be able to go over to Paris for

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<v Speaker 4>the Olympics this year. He's a marathon runner and he

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<v Speaker 4>is seventy fourth in the world. Now, he and Athletics

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<v Speaker 4>Australia and pretty much every other country were sort of

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<v Speaker 4>under the impression that the eighty runners who would get

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<v Speaker 4>to run in the marathon at the Olympics this year

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<v Speaker 4>would be the top eighty runners in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently only the top seventy have qualified for the Paris Olympics,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the last ten have been given to what

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<v Speaker 4>they call universality athletes. Now the idea that is its diversity,

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<v Speaker 4>equity and inclusion. There are ninety three nations in the

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<v Speaker 4>world who are deemed to be underrepresented at the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 4>so they essentially get a golden ticket into events to

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<v Speaker 4>try and boost their numbers a bit. There are thirty

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<v Speaker 4>five nations in Africa, eighteen in the Americas, seventeen in Asia,

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<v Speaker 4>in Europe, and fourteen across Oceania. It's almost half the

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<v Speaker 4>world is eligible to get a golden ticket into these

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<v Speaker 4>Olympic eventually. And Adams though he was sort of taken

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<v Speaker 4>by surprise. He talked to the ABC about this this morning.

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<v Speaker 6>We were all under the impression that you finished in

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<v Speaker 6>the top eighty and you'd be going to the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, when I found out the shock's news three

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<v Speaker 6>days after the qualification period had ended, the universality athletes

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<v Speaker 6>had displaced the ten athletes that had qualified in rankings,

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<v Speaker 6>it was a complete shock. I felt like it was

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<v Speaker 6>a kind of nightmare and I was just wondering how

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<v Speaker 6>it all happened. And yeah, it's been a complete shock and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to compute.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, maybe I'm missing something here.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought the idea of the Olympics, the pinnacle of

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<v Speaker 4>athletics in the world is the you know, the best

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<v Speaker 4>in the world go over there and represent their countries. No, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no no, we don't do that. We'll let sort of like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the first seventy best in the world represent

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<v Speaker 4>their countries. Then we'll just have some also rams make

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<v Speaker 4>it in because they happened to come from a smaller country.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually like it because do you remember at the

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand Olympics there was a guy called Eddie the Eel.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember this guy, Eddie the Eel turns up

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<v Speaker 2>representing an African nation. He'd only taken up swimming eight

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<v Speaker 2>months before the Olympic Games, and he got to the

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic Games. He had never seen a fifty meter swimming

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<v Speaker 2>pool in his life. He rocks up, he swims in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty meters. It took him one minute and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two seconds to complete it, more than twice the time

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<v Speaker 2>of the eventual winner. But here's the great thing. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve, twelve years later, he is the national swim

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<v Speaker 2>team coach of his country. It's a beautiful story, Caleb,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think it is. Universality of athletes is

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Was he one of the universally the athletes that basically

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<v Speaker 5>gets given this as a charity.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild card entry just to encourage the athletes of his

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<v Speaker 2>nation who typically don't swim, and he proved that they

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<v Speaker 2>typically don't swim and they haven't had a compere that

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<v Speaker 2>since I don't think, but I mean, Palestine are getting

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<v Speaker 2>a free pass for the next Olympics. They've announced that

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian athletes will be enabled to compete, though they won't

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<v Speaker 2>qualify for any events, and though they're not actually a nation,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is done to encourage nations to help their athletes.

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<v Speaker 5>Well they literally say, the Olympic Committee say it's to

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<v Speaker 5>increase the diversity of participating nations. So sorry, Leam Adams,

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<v Speaker 5>you've been pipped by DEI and good grief, isn't that

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<v Speaker 5>a growing list?

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<v Speaker 3>But you had to laugh.

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<v Speaker 5>Reading one of the headlines in the Sydney Morning Herald today,

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<v Speaker 5>they are under fire for calling ballerinas too thin and

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<v Speaker 5>this is a national disgrace.

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<v Speaker 3>How dare they?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 5>Someone did this rite up? What's his name, Nui tech coat? Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>David Holberg, actually.

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<v Speaker 4>So, David Holberg's the artistic director of the Australian Ballet.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, but he's the one who's slamming it. He's

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<v Speaker 5>not the one who did the ride up. I was

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<v Speaker 5>referring to the person who did the ride up. Calling

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<v Speaker 5>them too thin.

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<v Speaker 3>Better than calling them too fat. Right, Nope, you can

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<v Speaker 3>never get it right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, actually I should point out Nui wrote the story

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<v Speaker 4>and I know knew he's a good fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote the story for the Herald's.

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<v Speaker 4>Son about the SMHS getting slammed by the Australian Ballet.

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<v Speaker 4>The piece in the SMH was written by a woman

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<v Speaker 4>called Chantal Newan, who is a barrister and the dance

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<v Speaker 4>critic for the Sydney Morning Herald. So a woman called

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<v Speaker 4>the dancers too thin is what happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh so all you wanted to do was let everyone know,

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<v Speaker 5>don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a man, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So then we've got David Holborg, who was Artist director

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<v Speaker 5>of Australian Ballet. He says comment regarding body image is

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<v Speaker 5>not acceptable and I am compelled to address this. Comments

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<v Speaker 5>about weight, shape and body comparisons can have a serious

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<v Speaker 5>negative impact on a person's self esteem and body image

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<v Speaker 5>can be detrimental to individuals mental and physical health. Professional

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<v Speaker 5>ballet dancers, like other ascetic athletes, are identified as a

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<v Speaker 5>high ROOSK group for the development of body image concerns,

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<v Speaker 5>disordered eating and eating disorders, for.

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<v Speaker 3>Crying out loud.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone who knows anything about ballet knows you can't do

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<v Speaker 5>it if you're a heifer like you.

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<v Speaker 2>And a woman said that one of my I would

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<v Speaker 2>never have said that.

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<v Speaker 5>One of my best friends of fifteen years is a

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<v Speaker 5>ballet dancer, right, she's a ballet dance teacher now, but

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<v Speaker 5>she has told me so many stories about the agonies

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<v Speaker 5>these girls go through. Obviously, to keep the number on

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<v Speaker 5>this scales down, that is the name of the game.

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<v Speaker 5>I've also have a very good friend who went to London,

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<v Speaker 5>was a prima donna, ballerina, all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no understating how imperative that is if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to be a ballerina, if you want to excel,

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<v Speaker 5>as obviously these guys do because it's the Australian Ballet

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm sure that no one, none of them anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>reading this critique saying gosh, they're really skinny, would have

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<v Speaker 5>had that much of a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have been like I am.

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<v Speaker 2>What if the language was not the problem. What if

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<v Speaker 2>the artistic director of the Australian Ballet was upset not

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<v Speaker 2>about them being called unusually thin. What if it was

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<v Speaker 2>just upset generally about the review. Because let me read

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<v Speaker 2>you some of this review. It says that this particular

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<v Speaker 2>performance felt like a banal hour of channel surfing. You

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<v Speaker 2>watch a series of dissatisfying, self indulgent scenes unrelated to

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<v Speaker 2>those you've just watched, and will watch after. The only

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<v Speaker 2>difference between that and channel surfing is when you're channel surfing,

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<v Speaker 2>you can leave the room. It goes on to say

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<v Speaker 2>that the ballet's score sounded like a combination of dental tools,

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<v Speaker 2>a flight path and my neighbor's techno music leaking through

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<v Speaker 2>our shared apartment Briill. So I wonder if the artistic

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<v Speaker 2>director was not really upset about them being called unusually thin,

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<v Speaker 2>just hated the review.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was a one and a half star review.

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<v Speaker 4>And back in the day I used to review shows

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<v Speaker 4>for the Adelaide Fringe for the Advertiser, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>I did once hand out a one star review and

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<v Speaker 4>the performers did not take very kindly to it because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a crap show. It's just how it goes.

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<v Speaker 4>But miss Newan wrote in the quoting question was the

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<v Speaker 4>dancers are fabulous, although, and perhaps this was the lighting,

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<v Speaker 4>seem unusually thin this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So.

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<v Speaker 4>The line he's already qualified the statement and said maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it was my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I could have been wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they weren't as thin as I thought they were.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know that Ballerina's ballet dancers. Of course they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be thin. And you don't see people getting

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<v Speaker 4>up in arms every weekend about the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>That jockeys weigh so little.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know, having involved in the racing industry, the

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<v Speaker 4>job stuff that jockeys do every weekend. I mean they

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<v Speaker 4>get up at the cracker dawn on Saturday morning, they

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<v Speaker 4>put on like fifteen layers and go for a run

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<v Speaker 4>to sweat out as much weight as they possibly can.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they come back and have a scorching hot bath

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<v Speaker 4>to sweat out even more weight. They don't eat until

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<v Speaker 4>five PM when they've stopped racing because they have to

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<v Speaker 4>make weight. Now, it's probably not the healthiest lifestyle in

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<v Speaker 4>the world, but you don't see people complaining about that

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<v Speaker 4>every single week. But you dare to say that the

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<v Speaker 4>ballerinas look thin?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, how dare you?

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<v Speaker 3>We already know that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fact, it's true, before we're too critical of ballerinas.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the AFL have embraced this whole body shaming

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<v Speaker 2>thing and announced this year they would stop publishing players weights.

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<v Speaker 2>And the weight AFL footballers is fairly important because if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a seventy kilogram player playing on a one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred kilogram player makes a big difference. But apparently the

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<v Speaker 2>AFL footballers are a little bit sensitive about weight, and

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<v Speaker 2>the weight cannot be published anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm sure you'd get in big trouble if you

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<v Speaker 5>tried to publish the weight of ballerinas.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not comparing apples with apples here.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's go to the Netherlands now, where six months

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<v Speaker 5>after Garrett Wilder's party was elected in a landslide, he's

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<v Speaker 5>finally managed to strike a deal with three other parties

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<v Speaker 5>to cobble together a coalition of sorts. Now this took

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<v Speaker 5>some doing because Gearritt Vildas is very well known as

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<v Speaker 5>being what they call far right, and when he won

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<v Speaker 5>the election, a quarter of the national vote, which is

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<v Speaker 5>no mean feat. When to give you an idea, right now,

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<v Speaker 5>sitting in the House of Reps in the Netherlands, fifteen parties.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have a major two party system like the

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<v Speaker 5>US or Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Over there, it's like a patch work quilt.

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<v Speaker 5>Baby, So he had his work cutout, despite getting a

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<v Speaker 5>quarter of the national vote, get his work cut out

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<v Speaker 5>to make friends with these parties, A lot of which said,

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<v Speaker 5>despite him romping it in vote wise at the election

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<v Speaker 5>six months ago, a lot of them said, we will

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<v Speaker 5>never do business with this party, we will not form

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<v Speaker 5>government with him. Well, he's managed to find three friends

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<v Speaker 5>and they are cobbling it together. Part of that deal

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<v Speaker 5>was though him agreeing that he would not be prime minister,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a big, big bummer. They still haven't decided

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<v Speaker 5>who will be prime minister. So I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>the other three are going to do. What flip a coin,

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<v Speaker 5>But this I just can't believe he's actually managed to

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<v Speaker 5>do it, and that much is incredibly impressive. Like early

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<v Speaker 5>on in the game, this guy came out very strongly

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<v Speaker 5>on immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, we're going to make Netherlands for the Dutch again.

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<v Speaker 5>He promised to ban the Koran mosques Islamic schools.

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<v Speaker 3>He was going hard now.

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<v Speaker 5>Part of this deal with the major three parties, which

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<v Speaker 5>is so stupid, right because obviously that is what the

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<v Speaker 5>Netherland wants. That's why he got a quarter of the

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<v Speaker 5>national vote. And yet in order to cobble together a government,

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<v Speaker 5>they've made him softened and dampened down and in some

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<v Speaker 5>regards get rid of some of the policies that he

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<v Speaker 5>would if he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Governing in his own right he would have implemented. How

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<v Speaker 3>dumb is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Like when you're the leaders of the other three parties

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<v Speaker 5>who have agreed to cozy up to him in order

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<v Speaker 5>to be in government yourselves, you're like, well, just drop

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<v Speaker 5>several of the things that were your vote winners that

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<v Speaker 5>you took to the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the art of politics, though, isn't It's compromise.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had to back off all the heavy handed Islamic stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to immigration, strict measures are regarding

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<v Speaker 2>asylum seekers, scrapping family reunification for refugees, they're reducing the

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<v Speaker 2>number of international students sounds like a Peter Dutton's speech,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're deporting people who don't have a valid visa

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<v Speaker 2>if necessary by force. And on top of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be happy about this, Liz the citizen that the

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<v Speaker 2>Farmer's Citizens movement has become part of the coalition. And

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<v Speaker 2>we all have seen the massive demonstrations in the Netherlands

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<v Speaker 2>because of what's been done to farmers in the name

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<v Speaker 2>of climate change. So you'd expect the Netherlands to take

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<v Speaker 2>a slightly different view on climate than has been the

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<v Speaker 2>case and that should make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, All in all, this is a massive win for

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<v Speaker 5>the Netherlands. And this will mean because this is after

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen years of the same main party being in power.

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<v Speaker 5>This was a shock to end all shock elections for

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<v Speaker 5>the ruling elites in the Netherlands. And it's just wonderful

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<v Speaker 5>to see, especially right off the back of Argentina.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Harveer Malay there. Trump is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>back in the.

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<v Speaker 5>White House later this year, just speaking that out. But

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<v Speaker 5>these leaders are increasingly coming to prominence as their populations

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<v Speaker 5>are just like, we are so sick of what we're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing happen in our country.

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<v Speaker 4>And get Wilders has been at it for the better

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<v Speaker 4>part of two decades now, and he's finally having his

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<v Speaker 4>day in the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've often had this discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>About, you know, the fact you look at Europe and

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<v Speaker 4>you've had a wave of right when leaders get elected

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<v Speaker 4>over there, and then of course you had Trump in

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<v Speaker 4>the US and Harvey Malay in Argentina, etc. And people say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>why has that not happened in Australia, And my answer

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<v Speaker 4>has always been the day will come, we just haven't

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<v Speaker 4>met it yet. There will come a point where people

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<v Speaker 4>will realize what is going on and they will start

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<v Speaker 4>to rebel. We just haven't got to that point yet.

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<v Speaker 4>So don't be disheartened, but beheartened by the fact it

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<v Speaker 4>is happening in other parts of the world, because the

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<v Speaker 4>reckoning has to come at some point.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Dutton's about the closest we've got to it at the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll talk later about his budget reply speech, which

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't really a budget reply speech.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an election pitch.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was hitting good points, the right points tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>and it takes a leader like that to step up

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<v Speaker 4>and drive that message home as long as it takes.

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<v Speaker 4>It can take decades, but as long as it takes,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to keep driving that message home as get

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<v Speaker 4>Wilders has ultimately to his success.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second, I thought you were going to say

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<v Speaker 2>that Pauline Hanson will eventually be prom minister of this.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be hard to do from the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you were going. How it worked, staying on politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Great news from the United States. The election season just

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<v Speaker 2>got better because Joe Biden has announced he will debate

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, and it started already. Let me show you

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden already goading it. It's like two boxes lining

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<v Speaker 2>up getting ready for about. It's like box like one

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>boxer and a lettuce leaf lining up about. Listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden already goading Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump was two debates to me in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>San Sandy Ada's shown up for debate. No exactly what

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<v Speaker 7>you want to debate me again?

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Or make my day pal.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll even do it twice.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's pick the dace.

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<v Speaker 7>Donald, I hear you're free on Wednesdays.

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Biden's comment to Trump, I hear you free on Wednesdays

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<v Speaker 2>as a reference to the fact that Wednesday is the

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<v Speaker 2>day he's not required in court in Manhattan. So the

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>sledging has already started. But Biden has already rigged the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, right, So he said, I'm going to debate

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<v Speaker 2>provided the first debate is on CNN and hosted by them.

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<v Speaker 2>The second debate is hosted by the ABC, which we

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<v Speaker 2>all know means Biden will have a little earpiece. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>be getting the questions in advance. He'll probably be greatly helped.

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<v Speaker 3>But greatly helped.

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<v Speaker 5>We are about to weakness the Manhattan Project of pharmaceutical simula,

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<v Speaker 5>because that guy is going to be standing out a

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<v Speaker 5>podium facing off with RFK, not just Donald Trump, RFK.

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<v Speaker 3>As well, and we show him.

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<v Speaker 5>Every other night barely able to string a sentence together.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is going to be a major feat for.

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<v Speaker 5>The pharmaceutical industry and I can't wait to see.

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<v Speaker 3>What they put.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Donald Trump, actually, so Donald Trump was asked, are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to accept? And it took Trump all of

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<v Speaker 2>half an hour to work out whether or not he'd

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<v Speaker 2>except he's totally up for it, and Trump said, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>someone to debate him. But he can't even string two

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<v Speaker 2>sentences together, which is wrong. Biden can string two sentences together,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that one is not related at all to them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite true.

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<v Speaker 4>And because of that fact, as you say, Pharmaceuty was whatever,

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 4>don't underestimate Biden at these debates.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I would underestimate him at your peril. I know he does.

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<v Speaker 4>But they are going to put absolutely everything they possibly

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<v Speaker 4>can to have him at peak mental fitness, whatever that

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<v Speaker 4>looks like for Joe Biden at these debates.

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<v Speaker 2>They are doing fitness out go Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>They are going to call the same sentence absolutely all

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<v Speaker 4>the stops, even if it means they have to in

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<v Speaker 4>the bloke and put his skin on someone else to

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<v Speaker 4>put them up to do the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>They will absolutely do it. But why don't we go

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<v Speaker 1>through a few highlights?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I just say I'm curious about this though.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a bit of a comm theory.

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<v Speaker 5>For you, because this was such a sudden one eighty, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and his mental atuity has been questioned for as long

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 5>as his presidency has gone on. For this was a very,

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 5>very sudden one eighty And I do think that people

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<v Speaker 5>need to stop and ask themselves why, Because you say

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to throw everything at it. They're going to

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<v Speaker 5>make him seem bright, shiny, brand new.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at him.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got another four years in him, or is this

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<v Speaker 5>a setup? Is he destined to fail so that then

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<v Speaker 5>the Dems can turn around and be like Newsom one

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<v Speaker 5>of the other guys waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>In the wings, Get on your bike.

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<v Speaker 5>Because Newsom has been looking more and more presidential, He's

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<v Speaker 5>been getting a lot more press coverage in the States,

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<v Speaker 5>and we all know that none of this is ever

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<v Speaker 5>like what a coincidence in an election year. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just curious to see why the one eighty because I

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<v Speaker 5>very much doubt that it is to prove, oh, look

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<v Speaker 5>at him, he's one hundred percent, when they know better

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<v Speaker 5>than anyone he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>The other option is because I mean, he's tanking in

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<v Speaker 2>the polls, and if he can do a moderately good

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<v Speaker 2>job in the debate, there is the chance that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump may self destruct because Trump can't help himself. But

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<v Speaker 2>go too far, go overboard. Maybe just counting on that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've got to go to some highlights of previous debates.

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<v Speaker 2>Just have a look at this. I mean, if it

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<v Speaker 2>approaches anything like the last time they squared off, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand back and stand by. Are you in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>law and order?

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<v Speaker 2>I am in favor of law.

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<v Speaker 3>You fire law, law in.

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<v Speaker 7>Order with justice where people get treated fairly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a moderator of this debate, and I will like

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<v Speaker 2>you to let me ask my question and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can answer.

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<v Speaker 8>Your party wanted to go socialistic?

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<v Speaker 2>Party?

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<v Speaker 7>Is me socialist? Now? I am?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're going to dominate you.

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<v Speaker 7>Joe, you know that I am the Democratic Party right now.

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<v Speaker 7>The platform of the Democratic Party is what I in

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<v Speaker 7>fact approved of.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all, I guess I'm debating you, not him,

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<v Speaker 8>But that's okay. I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be hectic. But before we move on

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<v Speaker 2>to another topic, we're just going to show you one

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<v Speaker 2>more clip from their previous debate. This is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of people died and a lot more going

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<v Speaker 7>to die unless he gets a lot smarter a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you use the word smart? So you said you

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<v Speaker 8>went to Delaware State, but you forgot the name of

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<v Speaker 8>your college. You didn't go to Delaware State. You graduated

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<v Speaker 8>either the lowest or almost the lowest in your class.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't ever use the word smart with me. Don't ever

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<v Speaker 8>use that word. Oh give me, because you know what,

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<v Speaker 8>there's nothing smart about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Trump is the master of one line, it's going.

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<v Speaker 5>To be what he was referring to. There was the

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<v Speaker 5>bald face lies that Joe Biden has told about his

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<v Speaker 5>academic record. He said he went to this university, said

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<v Speaker 5>he graduated top of his class, said he won a scholarship.

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<v Speaker 3>None of it was true.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was back in the seventies or something that,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe the eighties, but you can still watch it online

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<v Speaker 5>him telling these bald face lies about how smart he

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<v Speaker 5>is and.

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<v Speaker 3>What a incredible student he was. And that's why Trump

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<v Speaker 3>was like, don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Use that with me, quick one before we go to

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<v Speaker 5>an ad break in Peru this week, they've decided to

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<v Speaker 5>classify trans, non binary people as well as intersex people

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<v Speaker 5>as mentally ill.

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<v Speaker 3>They have said they've.

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<v Speaker 5>Done this in order to ensure that these those who

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<v Speaker 5>identify as all of the above get the mental health

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<v Speaker 5>assistance that they need. And they noted the inordinate or

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<v Speaker 5>shall I say, unbalanced, proportion of their mental health budget

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<v Speaker 5>was being utilized by people who identify as trans, non binary,

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<v Speaker 5>and inter sex. So when you use that argument, it

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<v Speaker 5>actually seems common sensical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, they've said they've not done this to demonize

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<v Speaker 2>transgendered people. They've not done it to hurt transgendered people.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, our intent is to help to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that mental health services are fully covered by insurance. Now activists,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, aren't happy about this. They say that this

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<v Speaker 2>is conversion therapy. But again, the Peruvian government have assured

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<v Speaker 2>the transgender community we're not going to force anyone to detransition,

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<v Speaker 2>but we just want to make sure that mental health

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>services are available. And it's acknowledged worldwide that transgendered people

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<v Speaker 2>do have more mental health issues than the general population.

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<v Speaker 2>The argument is over why that is, but the Peruvian

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<v Speaker 2>government made this decision as a way of helping. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there's been pushed back.

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<v Speaker 4>Gender dysphoria itself is a medical condition, right, so surely

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<v Speaker 4>there ought to be a medical response to it. And

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at the number of people who are

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<v Speaker 4>now deciding years after they transitioned, whether that be medically

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<v Speaker 4>through chemicals and hormone treatment, etc. Or even surgically in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of trying to change their genitals, the number of

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<v Speaker 4>people who are now saying that they regret the changes

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<v Speaker 4>they made, it would seem an entirely humane thing to

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<v Speaker 4>do to say that, in the first instance, there ought

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<v Speaker 4>to be a mental health intervention here. Now, I have

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 4>no doubt that there are people who seriously suffer with

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 4>gender dysphoria, and I feel really sad and sorry for them,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 4>and they have to work through that, and that can't

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 4>be an easy thing to deal with. That itself creates

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 4>its own mental health issues. But the number of people

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 4>who are increasingly coming out as having been a confused

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 4>child and then in adulthood thoroughly regretting what they had

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 4>done when they were a child and the road they

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 4>were led down in order to be able to do

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 4>that as a child, surely we should be saying there

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 4>are mental health issues here. You should be talking to

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 4>a doctor not about the easiest way to change your gender,

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 4>but about the way you are feeling and what you

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 4>are experiencing and why you are confused, because clearly, in

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 4>many of these cases there are underlying issues there. It's

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 4>not just about I think I was born in the

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 4>wrong body. There's a lot more to it than that.

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 4>The science and the medicine is starting to acknowledge that.

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the gender the gender health clinics overseas,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 4>including Tavistock in the UK, and there's even reviews going

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 4>on in our country now into this stuff about gender

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 4>transition with children in particular, it is changing. Why would

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 4>we not take a mental health angle on all of this.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're going to go to a break when we

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>come back. Look at what's making news in the papers tomorrow,

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>including just how much Stop and Go sign holders are

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 2>being paid in Melbourne. You will not believe it. That's

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>coming up at a moment. Well, Peter Dutton gave his

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Budget reply speech this evening and so Liz, obviously that's

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.720
<v Speaker 2>what the Australian are leading with tomorrow.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, the splash reads Dutton's future made in basics. I

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 5>think they're playing off the Albanesi's government.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Made in Australia.

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Peter Dutton will slash the permanent migration program by twenty

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 5>five percent, ben foreign investors and temporary residents from buying

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 5>existing homes, and reduce the number of international students to

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 5>free up more than one hundred thousand houses for Australians

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 5>over five years.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>These are to be the.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 5>Iceberg in terms of the awesome things that he had

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 5>to say in his Budget reply speech, but they're so

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 5>common sense that reading them you're just like, why aren't

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 5>were we doing this?

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Already.

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 5>You don't have to be an expert in any of

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 5>these fields to know, Okay, that is going to make

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 5>life a lot more livable for millions of assies quite quickly.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Why aren't we doing these?

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 2>And as you said, on top of that, he talked

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>about crime and proposed a whole of laws that they'll implement,

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>and of course his background as a police officer, that'll

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>resonate with people. Crimes a major issue. And as well

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>as proposing nuclear, talked about unlocking our gas reserves, which

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>most people, in fact, even the government themselves admit we're

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 2>going to need gas to get to net zero. So

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>he's proposing let's unlock gas. There's a whole lot of

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff in this. It just all makes sense.

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Brillion, I was like early election follows.

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:35.720
<v Speaker 3>I know we need nineteen seats.

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 5>It's a big ass for common DUTs do it for

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 5>the country.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very big task.

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 4>But as Sharri basically said earlier in the evening, it

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 4>sounded more like an election pitch than a budget In

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 4>reply speech, it went well beyond budget terms and essentially

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 4>into policy in other areas.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what he used the opportunity for.

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 4>And I was so glad to hear him talking about

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 4>housing a ford ability right, because you've had leaders talk

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 4>in vain about housing affordability, but it only gets worse.

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 4>And I've said many times that the biggest threat to

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 4>conservatism worldwide, but particularly here in Australia with the rate

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 4>of property prices going up, is housing affordability. Because if

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 4>you don't own something, you don't have anything to conserve.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 4>You need something of your own to protect and look

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 4>after and want to grow, et cetera, et ce.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, So if you don't own a home, you lose.

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 4>All of those touchstones that give you a sense of

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 4>what conservatism is about because you have literally nothing of

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 4>your own, nothing to conserve. Every conservative government in the world,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 4>then one of the number one priorities should be housing affordability,

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.439
<v Speaker 4>getting young people into the housing market, because once they

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 4>have a piece of the economic pie and a piece

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 4>of the property pie, they'll realize the realit living in

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 4>the world, and that's when their views on things start

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 4>to change.

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's thoroughly important for.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 3>A young person as an individual.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 5>It gives them such a sense of purpose and meaning

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 5>as well, like this is my patch.

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 3>We've got to get on top of this, for the

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 3>sake of.

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 5>The future, next splash, Labor senator censured for from River

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 5>to the Sea.

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 3>The Senate has condemned the use of the phrase from

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 3>the river to the sea Palestine will be free, a.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Day after the slogan was used by first term Labor

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 5>Senator Fatima Payman. I'm mean a push from the Victoria's

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 5>left faction to pass anti Israel motions at state conference,

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 5>so their government comes out condemns this floody blah. We

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 5>know you're talking out of both sides of your mouth

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 5>because you prove it every other day. But this was

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 5>also the day that the crazy Greens lady, the Greens

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 5>lady Lydia thought form was allowed to continue to wear

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 5>a kefia in our Senate well.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 2>The motion was moved by Simon Birmingham. It was supported

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>by Penny Wong. Curiously, the Labor senator who used the phrase,

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>she was missing from the Senate, but Labor colleagues voted

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to the statement. The only ones who didn't vote to

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 2>condemn the statement, obviously were the Greens. And as you said,

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Lydia Thorpe, who made a rather fiery speech, will show

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you that speech now. I know, you can just see

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 2>her making the speech. They're wearing the keffia, if you will.

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Pauline Hanson was told to remove a Israeli scarf. Yes,

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>So we were wondering why does Pauline Hanson not able

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>to wear an Israeli scarf but Lydia Thorpe is able

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 2>to wear the kefia. I believe because the Israeli scarf

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 2>is seen definitively as political, whereas the kefia is still

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 2>regarded as a fashion.

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 4>State because even though we all know it has political

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 4>because the Israeli scarf has rioting on it and whatever

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 4>is the kefia is a cultural garment, but we know.

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 5>The content to say that, we know the context statement.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 4>A cultural fashion item, but the context in which they are.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Wearing it is entirely political. Right, So the.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Victorian Parliament recognized by banding Greens to wear.

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Victoria, so surely it should be treated in the same way,

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 4>even though it may have a different history in terms

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 4>of you know, I mean that scarf that Pauline Hansen

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 4>wore yesterday. There's no historical significance to that scarf whatsoever.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.760
<v Speaker 4>But surely they're both being used in a political manner.

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 4>They both ought to be treated in the same way

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 4>I would have thought.

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the front page of the Herald's Sun.

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>If you're looking for a new job, Melbourne is the

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 2>place exclusive story stop, go paddle pop holders are now

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 2>earning two hundred and six thousand dollars a year amid

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>c FMEU takeover of Victoria's big bill dollar signs is

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 2>the headline entry level labor as this applies to on

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 2>building sites, getting two hundred and six and a year.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 2>On top of that, the CFMEU are making sure that

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 2>their mates are getting contracts on building sites though quoting

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>twice the price of non union aligned competitors. So if

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>you're part of the CFMU in Melbourne, you're on a

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 2>good wicket.

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, I might just have to get my CFMU ticket

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 4>and when I leave here at eleven pm every night,

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 4>go and start to working.

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 1>On the lollipops. Reckon. It sounds like a great way

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to top up.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 5>My Invictorian should be railing against this. The article goes

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 5>on to say industry whistleblowers say that the CFMEU takeover

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 5>of the state's taxpayer funded major infrastructure program has driven

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 5>up traffic management.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Costs alone alone.

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 5>So that's just this little bit by more than three

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty million dollars. That's taxpayers paying three hundred

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 5>and eighty million dollars for exactly what they would have

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 5>been getting regardless had the CFMEU not come along and

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 5>just been like, we're going to make everything way more expensive,

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 5>so our guys get way more.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Taxpayer dollars and screw the taxpayer.

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. Now why you're upsettlers. If you want a

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 2>labor state government, that's just the problect.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 4>That's what you get with with labor governments and bolshy unions.

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, for all the things you can say about

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 4>the CFMU, you can't accuse them of not doing the

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 4>best for their members because.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>They're pretty bloody effective.

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.439
<v Speaker 4>That Let's go to the Courier mail where tomorrow they

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 4>say government's crazy stadium bill a billion dollars to shrink

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 4>the Gabba.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe this?

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 4>The state government's alternative plan for the Gabba could cost

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 4>one point one billion dollars and wait for it, cut

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 4>its capacity by about four thousand seats. Hang on a minute, now,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 4>we know that the Queensland government commissioned a report into

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 4>what infrastructure that they would require for the Olympic Games

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 4>in twenty thirty two. It came back and made a

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 4>bunch of suggests, all of which were chucked out the window.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Now they say, well, we can tap the gabber up

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 4>a bit, but it'll have fewer seats.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>What imagine if they spent two billion dollars they could

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>get rid of eight thousands. Don't they just keep going?

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 5>It's just necessary to reach code compliance and prevent it

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 5>from deteriorating.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, just change the.

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 5>Code, seriously for a billion barts.

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Just change the code for two point seven billion dollars.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>They said they could just demolish the entire thing and

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 2>rebuild it with more seats, so I might as well

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to spend the extra billion. And I mean, it's all

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>this money.

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, I know.

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I just looked if only in Queensland can you get

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 4>away with this kind of thing? I mean, you know,

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 4>remember back in the days of Joe bi Ilki Peterson

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 4>there were developments going up left, right and sent her

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 4>and you know, maybe there were a few brown paper

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 4>bags under the counter as well.

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It is Queensland, let's.

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Just go back to the good old days of brown

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.760
<v Speaker 4>paper bags and get this thing done for five hundred

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 4>million dollars.

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Surely it's possible in Queensland.

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.959
<v Speaker 2>That one moment we're like railing against the Union's arts

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>or corrupted, then the next minute we're like we just

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>need brown paper.

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, bring it back.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 5>It worked for Joe Jerrymander the heck out of this thing.

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Joe was the best at that quickly to the.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.280
<v Speaker 5>Daily Telegraph, Now work boom eludes more than three hundred

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 5>thousand long term jobless stuck in misery lane. Whose fault

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 5>is that almost three hundred and twenty thousand Australians have

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 5>been unemployed for between two years and an entire decade,

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 5>despite living through the biggest jobs booms in Australia's history. Okay,

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 5>so what point do we just go? Okay, we are

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 5>kicking you off the state's teat the end, I mean

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 5>that many people, that's a third of a million people

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 5>for jobless between two and ten years. That is a

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 5>lot of years between them. Clearly you just don't want

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 5>a job.

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.879
<v Speaker 2>The article goes on to say that one recruiter says

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 2>many jobless people deliverly apply for jobs. They have no

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 2>chance couditing, so they can tick the box and continue

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to get their.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a mentality. They're just like, why would I work

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 3>for money? You doesn't been giving it to me free

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 3>for rags.

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of money, you won't believe what the Victorian government

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>are investing in space tourism. What could go wrong? It's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in a moment. Well, the Victorian government can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford hospitals, but they've decided to invest thirty seven million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in space tourism. They're investing in a US company

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<v Speaker 2>that are proposers to sell people the opportunity to go

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<v Speaker 2>up into space. It'll be amazing if it comes off,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the Commonwealth Games would have been amazing if

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<v Speaker 2>it came off, and the East West Link would have

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<v Speaker 2>been amazing if it came off. This company is paying

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<v Speaker 2>is charging seventy five thousand dollars. You can buy the

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<v Speaker 2>tickets now to take off from the Great Barrier Reef.

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<v Speaker 2>Though they've not yet received approval for these flights. They're

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<v Speaker 2>proposing to put control headquarters in Melbourne, and the Victorian

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<v Speaker 2>Government believe that this will create hundreds of jobs. If

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<v Speaker 2>they'd done their research though they would have found that

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<v Speaker 2>this company had been sued in Arizona, where they made

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<v Speaker 2>a similar promise and failed to provide anywhere near the

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<v Speaker 2>jobs promised. Just another project in Victoria is that you

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<v Speaker 2>know is going to go exactly as Durians.

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<v Speaker 3>Just get out of there, Just get out of there.

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<v Speaker 5>But before we leave you tonight, this has got to

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<v Speaker 5>be one of the weirdest stories you will ever hear

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<v Speaker 5>in your entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>Algeria.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, this guy's abducted at seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Years of age.

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<v Speaker 5>His family think he's dead, but twenty seven years later

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<v Speaker 5>he's just been discovered.

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<v Speaker 3>Two hundred meters down the road.

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<v Speaker 5>Turns out he's in He was abducted by his neighbor,

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<v Speaker 5>held captive by his neighbor for those twenty seven years.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's some footage of him.

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<v Speaker 5>Being discovered down some sort of well, that was some

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<v Speaker 5>sort of commotion outside the hospital after he was discovered.

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<v Speaker 3>Get this.

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<v Speaker 5>He says that he couldn't call out for help during

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<v Speaker 5>these twenty seven years because he was under some sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Of spell by his captor. Caleb.

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<v Speaker 4>I just cannot get over this story. If this wasn't real,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd have to write it. But as in so many

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<v Speaker 4>of these cases. Real life is stranger than fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it from us, stick around, coming up in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. It is the readependent show.