Speaker 1: Why on Sky News.
Speaker 2: This is Sharry.
Speaker 3: Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show tonight to
Speaker 3: Anthony Alberizie's embarrassing remarks about Donald trump come back to
Speaker 3: haunt him. How will the Prime Minister handle this? If
Speaker 3: Trump wins in just two days, I'll bring you.
Speaker 2: His comments in a moment.
Speaker 3: I've got full coverage on the election tonight with our
Speaker 3: former ambassador to Washington, Joe Hockey, plus Ross Greenwood in
Speaker 3: New York will bring you the latest intel on the
Speaker 3: battleground states. Plus I'll bring you exclusive polling on who
Speaker 3: labor voters have picked to lead the party if they
Speaker 3: could choose a different leader, and the answer will make
Speaker 3: alban Eazy very nervous. That exclusive polling coming up. Also tonight,
Speaker 3: the Home Affairs Department plays counsel culture with the Australian flag. Well,
Speaker 3: shouldn't they be focused on national security?
Speaker 2: I'll show you the moment James.
Speaker 3: Patterson calls out their wopped priorities. But first tonight, the
Speaker 3: Prime Minister embarrassed over remarks where he strongly criticized Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: The comments now coming back to haunt him.
Speaker 3: On the eve of the US election, alberize he was
Speaker 3: a senior labor figure. When he said that he had
Speaker 3: concerns about Trump, who was already president at the time,
Speaker 3: he also said that he scares the s out of him.
Speaker 4: Have a look, we have an alliance with the US.
Speaker 4: We're going to deal with him, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that you're uncritical about it. He scares out of me,
Speaker 4: and I think it's of some concern that the leader
Speaker 4: of the free world thinks that you can conduct politics
Speaker 4: through one hundred and forty characters on Twitter.
Speaker 3: So Alberizi complaining there as he said that we've got
Speaker 3: to deal with him.
Speaker 2: This is embarrassing.
Speaker 3: And Alberizi was Shadow Transport and infrastruct Minister at the time.
Speaker 3: He was a senior figure in the shortened team. He
Speaker 3: should have known better than to speak in such a
Speaker 3: juvenile fashion about the then president of the nation that
Speaker 3: Australia relies.
Speaker 2: On for our national security.
Speaker 3: And for this to emerge at a time when his
Speaker 3: own government is scrambling to get in to make ties
Speaker 3: with teen Trump. Well, when you think about it, there
Speaker 3: are actually a lot of similarities between Alberizi and Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: Alber Ezi spent his career as a left faction warrior,
Speaker 3: only to suddenly try and reposition himself in the political
Speaker 3: center when he became Labor leader, he claimed that he'd abandoned.
Speaker 2: His far left instincts.
Speaker 3: It led to front pages like this one where Albernezi
Speaker 3: declared I am not woke.
Speaker 2: Many of us found that claim hard to believe.
Speaker 5: Albert declared himself a centrist who would govern four mainstream
Speaker 5: Australia and to prove he was safe for readers, reporter
Speaker 5: Joe Hildebrand put the opposition leader to the woke test
Speaker 5: and got all the right answers.
Speaker 6: Can men have babies?
Speaker 5: No Captain Cook, Giro or zero world changer?
Speaker 2: Does Australia need to spend more or less on defence?
Speaker 7: More negative gearing?
Speaker 2: Keep or ditch Keep?
Speaker 3: In my view, there wasn't nearly enough scrutiny on Albanesi
Speaker 3: before the last election, and when I reported on his
Speaker 3: radical left positions over the years, he was pretty angry
Speaker 3: about it. Albanzey didn't want anyone to know about his past,
Speaker 3: like that it actually supported death taxes. He'd also previously
Speaker 3: criticized capitalism and family wealth as causes of social injustice.
Speaker 3: Albanzey pretended to voters that he'd been an economics advisor
Speaker 3: in the legendary Haut government, but in fact, as I reported,
Speaker 3: he was only a research officer for a hard left
Speaker 3: minister who.
Speaker 2: Wasn't in cabinet.
Speaker 3: And on Israel would don't get me started, but there
Speaker 3: were plenty of warning signs.
Speaker 2: Albinizi had lashed out at.
Speaker 3: Israel, claiming it had acted disproportionately when defending its citizens from.
Speaker 2: Terror attacks, and he also demanded the.
Speaker 3: Coalition explain why it voted against a United Nations move
Speaker 3: to launch an investigation into Israel's so called indiscriminate use
Speaker 3: of force against Palestinians.
Speaker 2: These should have been red flags.
Speaker 3: The whole attempt to reposition Albanzi was a farce. He
Speaker 3: never abandoned his lifelong principles, He just pretended that he changed.
Speaker 3: And now Albinze's Prime ministership is failing, mostly because of
Speaker 3: his inability to govern for mainstream Australians.
Speaker 2: I challenge you.
Speaker 3: To think of anything he has actually personally achieved. You
Speaker 3: only have to look at Peter malanowskis in Adelaide or
Speaker 3: Chrismin's in New South Wales to see the model of
Speaker 3: a modern, successful centrist labor leader now over in America.
Speaker 3: Like alban Easy, Kamala Harris has spent her career as
Speaker 3: a Californian Liberal. She's the very definition of woke. The
Speaker 3: Republicans only have to look at comments she's made in
Speaker 3: the past for their adverts.
Speaker 6: Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
Speaker 8: Surgery for prisoners for prisoners. Every transgender in me in
Speaker 8: the prison system would have access. This administration has decided
Speaker 8: to vilify them and to trade on them for the
Speaker 8: sake of this president's medieval vanity project called IWAL. There's
Speaker 8: no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 3: The Wall Street Journal editorial board says that her candidacy
Speaker 3: is best understood as an attempt by the Democrats to
Speaker 3: continue the progressive political wave, and that editorial describes the
Speaker 3: modern left's bloody mindedness, with its regulatory coercion, its cultural imperialism,
Speaker 3: its economic statism, and its desire to strip judicial independence.
Speaker 3: They say that Harris's progressive politics might be tolerable if
Speaker 3: Miss Harris showed evidence on foreign affairs that she understands
Speaker 3: the world's current dangerous moment. Yet she defends the last
Speaker 3: four years as a security success, despite two Wars adversaries
Speaker 3: on the March and the US Navy playing Waka missile
Speaker 3: in the Red Sea. And they also conclude that Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris is unprepared to deal with She or Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3: And now even CNN has called Kamala Harris out for
Speaker 3: running different messages on Gaza and Israel in different states.
Speaker 3: In Michigan, which reportedly has the largest Arab population in America,
Speaker 3: here are Kamala Harris's adverts.
Speaker 8: What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months
Speaker 8: is devastating. We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to
Speaker 8: the suffering, and I will not be silent.
Speaker 3: I won't be silent on the suffering. But then over
Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania, where Kamala is trying to win over Jewish voters,
Speaker 3: will here's her message.
Speaker 8: I will always stand up for Israel's right to defend itself, and.
Speaker 10: I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend
Speaker 10: itself because the people of Israel must never again face
Speaker 10: the horror that a terrorist or organization called hermas calls
Speaker 10: on October seventh, This.
Speaker 2: Is so appalling.
Speaker 3: These mixed messages that even CNN criticized.
Speaker 2: Her over it.
Speaker 11: You have two entirely different constituencies and they are getting
Speaker 11: two entirely different messages. If you are a Jewish person
Speaker 11: in Pennsylvania, you saw that ad that you're getting, You
Speaker 11: are getting that athe Muslim voter in Michigan, you are
Speaker 11: getting that ad on Facebook that's talking about talking about
Speaker 11: how she won't be silent on the issue of Gaza.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris wants to be the president of the US,
Speaker 3: but her message is change depending on which battleground state
Speaker 3: you're in, depending on what you want to hear. She
Speaker 3: seems to be the American replica of alban Easy, and
Speaker 3: we've seen that his left wing instincts couldn't be suppressed forever.
Speaker 2: Now this is arguably the.
Speaker 3: Most critical election in our recent history. Our enemies are
Speaker 3: emboldened and they're collaborating to weaken us in the West.
Speaker 3: Only a strong leader of the free world can stop
Speaker 3: their assault on democracy and on Western civilization, and this
Speaker 3: can only be achieved through the Reagan model of peace
Speaker 3: through strength.
Speaker 2: This is the leadership that's needed.
Speaker 3: Right now, not constant calls for a ceasefire, not half
Speaker 3: hearted support for Ukraine and not turning a blind eye
Speaker 3: to China's wargames. Okay, we've got a lot coming up
Speaker 3: for more. Now let's cross live to the US to
Speaker 3: New York where I've got Ross Greenwood and it's just
Speaker 3: gone four am local time. Ross, thank you for getting
Speaker 3: up so early for us.
Speaker 2: Look in New.
Speaker 3: York, Wall Street has mostly swung behind Donald Trump. What's
Speaker 3: your opinion on the view that the economy and the
Speaker 3: stock market will be stronger under a Trump presidency.
Speaker 12: Well, there's no doubt that Wall Street has swung behind him,
Speaker 12: although it has waived in the past day or so.
Speaker 12: That surprise Iowa Pole, which suggested that Kamala Harris could
Speaker 12: be in front there probably has just led to a
Speaker 12: few wobbles in terms of currency markets, bond markets, and
Speaker 12: share markets as well. But in the main you're right,
Speaker 12: they have swung behind Donald Trump, and the reason for
Speaker 12: that is because they believe that he will bring down taxes,
Speaker 12: not just for companies but for individuals. Now, there is
Speaker 12: some concern about the implication of what he means when
Speaker 12: he says that he wants to exchange taxes in the
Speaker 12: United States for tariffs, taking the United States back to
Speaker 12: a system that was around in the early nineteen hundreds
Speaker 12: until income tax was created. Now, the reality is that
Speaker 12: big tariffs on Chinaese imported goods, some say, would add
Speaker 12: to inflation. He says, it's the way to actually get
Speaker 12: America going to bring manufacturing on shore, to bring jobs
Speaker 12: on shore, to bring technology on shore, and to ensure
Speaker 12: or the Chinese goods, in many cases where the intellectual
Speaker 12: property has been stolen or basically copied effectively does not
Speaker 12: come back into America as chief goods. So this is
Speaker 12: the sort of rhetoric that goes around not just the
Speaker 12: Trump campaign, but also around the financial markets. Which is
Speaker 12: the reason why though you're right to say that New
Speaker 12: York is very much a Democrat stronghold, it also resonates
Speaker 12: in other parts of it, like say, for example, the
Speaker 12: race for the Congress. A lot of people right now
Speaker 12: even today the New York Times talking about the importance
Speaker 12: of New York in the Congress because the Republicans helped
Speaker 12: to grab control of the Congress because of key votes
Speaker 12: that they picked up here in New York. And that's
Speaker 12: the reason why there so many different votes that are
Speaker 12: coming out in two days time on Tuesday are really
Speaker 12: going to be very important for this nation.
Speaker 3: Ross this is I was actually, I've got to say it,
Speaker 3: quite shocked when I saw that this story had taken
Speaker 3: off in such a strong way on the weekend. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if all of our viewers have heard
Speaker 3: about it tonight. Peanut the squirrel, this has been massive,
Speaker 3: especially in.
Speaker 2: New York on the weekend before the election.
Speaker 3: So basically, the police have come in and killed a
Speaker 3: man's two pets, a squirrel and a raccoon. It just
Speaker 3: so happened that I understand the squirrel was a you know,
Speaker 3: a social media star. I mean, this sounds weird, but
Speaker 3: it's been such a big story, and Russell's resonated across
Speaker 3: America because it's an example of government overreach of government
Speaker 3: control while there's a sense that actual criminals are getting
Speaker 3: off scott free.
Speaker 2: Are a protected species.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so it actually gets mixed up with the migration message.
Speaker 12: That's the funny thing about dear old Peanut the squirrel
Speaker 12: and Fred the raccoon is the other one as well.
Speaker 12: And so the New York Post sort of highlighted this
Speaker 12: and basically made the observation that really, people have rated
Speaker 12: this person's house. You know, you're right about peanut being
Speaker 12: a bit of an internet sensation. So either somebody's got
Speaker 12: jealous or somebody says that the squirrel hasn't been kept
Speaker 12: in the rights of environment or whatever it might be.
Speaker 12: So they've actually taken these pets away, euthanize the pets.
Speaker 12: But then now even jd Vance has called this out,
Speaker 12: said that Trump's not happy about this. But it really
Speaker 12: is sort of almost resonates about the fact that, you know,
Speaker 12: under the Democrats, many Americans believe that the country is
Speaker 12: over governed, and you mentioned earlier on in your editorial
Speaker 12: about you know, Australians feeling that same way they are
Speaker 12: over governed, and so this really has almost become a
Speaker 12: bit a little emblematic in the way in which Americans
Speaker 12: do feel in this election. And also say, for example,
Speaker 12: we're going there later on today to go and see
Speaker 12: the famous Roosevelt Hotel, one of the most famous hotels
Speaker 12: in America, which has now become a migration center, so
Speaker 12: people remember that many Americans coming, so many people coming
Speaker 12: to America for the first time. We've gone through Ellis Island. Well,
Speaker 12: this is the New l As Island, one of the
Speaker 12: traditionally flashiest hotels in New York City is now basically
Speaker 12: a migrant center for people who have come illegally into
Speaker 12: this country and gravitated towards New York City. So that
Speaker 12: again is become a bit of a flashpoint in this election.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's fascinating.
Speaker 3: And just to add to that, Elon Musks speaking about this,
Speaker 3: and it's such a big issue, this pin up the
Speaker 3: squirrel that the Wall Street Journal even did an editorial
Speaker 3: on it. Ross just quickly before you go, you went
Speaker 3: to Trump Tower today, You've been to pre polling booths today,
Speaker 3: I should say, yesterday.
Speaker 2: Your time.
Speaker 3: Tell us how you're finding voter sentiment on the ground,
Speaker 3: keeping in mind, of course, as you say that New
Speaker 3: York is a Democrat state.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, we're at the marathon. We met at Trump Towers,
Speaker 12: and of course there you'll see a lot of visitors,
Speaker 12: so you do get sort of a glimpse of what's
Speaker 12: happening around the country. The one interesting thing about this
Speaker 12: election is the pre polling. Now, at the previous election,
Speaker 12: twenty twenty election, sixty four percent of people in America
Speaker 12: pre polled, So, in other words, I'm almost one hundred
Speaker 12: million votes out of one hundred and fifty eight million
Speaker 12: votes that were cast were prepolled. And the interesting part
Speaker 12: about it is in the previous they broadly one to
Speaker 12: the Democrats, but this time around, in surveys that have
Speaker 12: been done, it suggests that in twenty six of the
Speaker 12: states where there has been pre polling monitored, that twelve
Speaker 12: have gone towards the Republicans, fourteen have gone towards the Democrats.
Speaker 12: And so it really again shows the call from both
Speaker 12: Kamala Harris and Donald Trump for people to get out
Speaker 12: and prepole has resonated there and certainly on the streets
Speaker 12: the people that we've spoken to have done so in
Speaker 12: their drives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and we've seen the Democrats clearly very worried
Speaker 3: about this early pre polling vote. All Right, Ross Greenwood
Speaker 3: Live in New York, thank you so much for your time,
Speaker 3: and we'll tune into the rest of your analysis this week.
Speaker 3: All Right, let's bring it now Sky News host Steve
Speaker 3: Price and Joe Hildebrand, and let's start with Albanezi's US
Speaker 3: style political rally in Adelaide on the weekend in a
Speaker 3: school hall, where he emphatically declared.
Speaker 2: That the worst was behind us.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the inflation crisis, pretty disingenuous, spare
Speaker 3: and seeing is so many families are struggling with this
Speaker 3: cost of living crisis.
Speaker 2: Let's have a look.
Speaker 13: While there are still challenges to meet, still problems to solve,
Speaker 13: still people under pressure who need our help. When we
Speaker 13: look at the economy today, we can see new reasons
Speaker 13: for optimism, a new proof that the worst is behind us.
Speaker 2: The worst is behind us.
Speaker 3: Well, is this his new narrative that the cost of
Speaker 3: living crisis is over? When he flies business class he
Speaker 3: buys a clifftop mansion. I mean, I think if that's
Speaker 3: his message, voter, is it going to punish him for
Speaker 3: not understanding Steve Price?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 7: Well, I think what we saw there and what we
Speaker 7: can smell is an election. I mean, what the hell
Speaker 7: is he doing? I mean that presentation yesterday was just
Speaker 7: so bizarre, But I think it gives us a bit
Speaker 7: of an indication of what's going to happen whenever that
Speaker 7: election is called, and it's now more likely than not,
Speaker 7: looking like maybe March. But he's going to lean heavy
Speaker 7: on the two labor premiers that you mentioned at the
Speaker 7: beginning of the program, Shari, and that is Peter malanowskis
Speaker 7: in South Australia and Christopher Min's in New South Wales.
Speaker 7: He knows they're popular. He knows that the middle voters
Speaker 7: think that those two guys, a bit like Steve Brax
Speaker 7: in Victoria a few years ago, are the type of
Speaker 7: labor premier or the labor politician that you can trust
Speaker 7: to look after you. So I think we really saw
Speaker 7: yesterday of the start of the election campaign for twenty
Speaker 7: twenty five. I just think Joe's mate was over there
Speaker 7: pretending to be you know, I saw a cross between
Speaker 7: Kamala Harrison and Donald Trump and getting everyone to clap
Speaker 7: and cheer for him on a Sunday. How much would
Speaker 7: they have had to pay those people to go there
Speaker 7: on a Sunday for God's sake?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Joe Albanezey does no media interviews at
Speaker 3: all for five days and then he turns up with
Speaker 3: this US style appearance where he takes no questions.
Speaker 2: That's great, he's our Donald Trump. You can trust him.
Speaker 14: Look, I think obviously has been a pretty brick is
Speaker 14: in week in the media for the PM, and that's clear.
Speaker 14: Some of it is self inflicted, some of it is
Speaker 14: just you know, the big storm that all politicians have
Speaker 14: to go through all the time. And as Winston Churchill said,
Speaker 14: a politician complaining about the press, it's like a sailor
Speaker 14: complaining about the sea. But he's obviously decided to keep
Speaker 14: his head down. I don't really have a problem with
Speaker 14: anything he said. To be honest, I think clearly the
Speaker 14: worst is behind us. The numbers speak for themselves that
Speaker 14: that is an undeniable I.
Speaker 3: Don't want to, you know, I don't want to interrupt you.
Speaker 3: I should say I will disagree, because actually the effect
Speaker 3: can be cumulative on people. So initially people had savings
Speaker 3: still from the COVID pandemic period. Now they don't have
Speaker 3: those savings anymore. A lot of people's mortgages are also
Speaker 3: coming off the fixed rate, so it's actually not true
Speaker 3: one it can be cumulative and other people are freshly
Speaker 3: exposed to the pain.
Speaker 14: That is absolutely fair enough. But he's talking about how
Speaker 14: the economy is sitting, and he did say, I know
Speaker 14: that people are doing it tough, and I, you know,
Speaker 14: and again I'm in a very fortunate position. But we've
Speaker 14: gone backwards as well in this thing, and it scares
Speaker 14: of for Jesus out of me and it stresses me out,
Speaker 14: makes me terrible to live with sometimes and gone.
Speaker 3: Backwards except for album Clifftop Magical.
Speaker 14: Well, you know, he's obviously in his personal states, he's
Speaker 14: going just fine. But he did say that he knew
Speaker 14: that people were still really struggling, but he was giving
Speaker 14: them some hope and some reassurance. I don't think saying
Speaker 14: we're all ruined.
Speaker 6: We're all ruined.
Speaker 14: You know, it's the end of the world as we
Speaker 14: know it. That doesn't help the economy and it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't help that, but it's just a bit of understanding
Speaker 3: about what voters are going through. Well, he did make
Speaker 3: that pledge to wipe twenty percent off the hex debt
Speaker 3: of three million ausies.
Speaker 2: Now this is a.
Speaker 3: Sixteen billion dollar promise for just three million students, and
Speaker 3: the PM was spooking that again today. Now, firstly, the
Speaker 3: Coalition argues that tax payers are ready pay for sixty
Speaker 3: percent of the cost of students education. But Steve, this
Speaker 3: is a classic case of wealth redistribution. And by the way,
Speaker 3: why should all all Australians have to pay for the
Speaker 3: debt of some students. Find some students are hard working,
Speaker 3: but others are just lazy protesters.
Speaker 7: Well, I've got to make an admission here. I have
Speaker 7: a daughter who has a sixty five thousand dollars hex stet.
Speaker 7: After five years studying to become a lawyer, she's now
Speaker 7: got a really good job. She never complains about it.
Speaker 7: She's not asked me for one cent. So let me
Speaker 7: just put that out there. But I did think it
Speaker 7: find it very intriguing that suddenly we're going to all
Speaker 7: us other taxpayers and imagine all the taxpayers out there
Speaker 7: that are not doing it such a good doing it
Speaker 7: so well now who are really struggling. I don't think
Speaker 7: they want to put their hand up and pay off
Speaker 7: people's hex debt. That's a huge promise. It's going to
Speaker 7: be very interesting now to see how Peter Dutton handles
Speaker 7: this because obviously that is a promise. It's going to
Speaker 7: sit well with younger voters, but I don't think it's
Speaker 7: going to sit very well with middle Australia and older voters.
Speaker 3: There's also the debt issue to the budget bottom line.
Speaker 3: But Joe is about labor trying to win votes back
Speaker 3: from the Green.
Speaker 14: Absolutely correct, it is, and that's right. That's usually if
Speaker 14: measures are off budget. It's because there are things like
Speaker 14: government owned corporations that are meant to turn a profit,
Speaker 14: so it's not actually a cost to the war chest
Speaker 14: the treasury chess because that entity is meant to be
Speaker 14: operating as a private entity or operating in the private sphere.
Speaker 14: I don't see, and I agree with sauls Like and
Speaker 14: Chris Richardson. I don't see how on earth you can
Speaker 14: make that argument here. It's clearly a reguard action to
Speaker 14: try to throw a bone to young voters who are
Speaker 14: eyeing off the Greens. I think they might be able
Speaker 14: to pick up a couple of seats maybe if they're
Speaker 14: lucky in Brisbane. Joe Biden did this in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Billion, and Joe Biden a couple of seats, a.
Speaker 14: Lot of people and a lot of Joe Biden did well.
Speaker 14: Not just that, but more to make labor more attractive
Speaker 14: to young people in the long term, because the Greens
Speaker 14: are eating that way and anything labor can do to
Speaker 14: beat the Greens is good for Australia.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if at the cost of sixteen billion,
Speaker 3: I would pay.
Speaker 14: Ten billion dollars they see Max Chandler bar kicked out
Speaker 14: of his seat.
Speaker 3: All right, Steve, we learned tonight in that we learned
Speaker 3: tonight and the Herald Son that five Jewish schoolgirls leaving.
Speaker 2: An exam for their VCE were abused with schoolboys shouting
Speaker 2: hitler slurs.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many cases like this, so many
Speaker 3: businesses targeted.
Speaker 2: Basically nothing ever happens.
Speaker 7: When is this going to stop? Those girls had been
Speaker 7: at a psychology exam and as the head of the
Speaker 7: school they attend said, you know, maybe these young men
Speaker 7: should have been at the psychology exam. I mean, what
Speaker 7: sort of country are we now living in when five
Speaker 7: girls who have been studying hard on the VCE on
Speaker 7: their way home on a tram and these these absolute
Speaker 7: morons start shouting stuff like that at them. I mean,
Speaker 7: you've done such a fantastic job prosecuting the case to
Speaker 7: try and put a lid on Adi Semitism in this country, Shari,
Speaker 7: You've personally invested in it, and yet you've got these
Speaker 7: You've got what's going on in those boys' homes when
Speaker 7: they get home tonight? I mean, I hope someone can
Speaker 7: work out who they are. They weren't wearing uniforms, but
Speaker 7: somebody in those streets will know exactly who they are.
Speaker 7: Their parents sort of grabbed them by the year, drag
Speaker 7: them down to their school tomorrow and tell the teachers
Speaker 7: at that school what those boys did. They ought to
Speaker 7: be expelled from the school for the rest of the year,
Speaker 7: and someone's got to get hold of them and put
Speaker 7: them into some sort of re education. It's not on
Speaker 7: it's pathetic and it's dangerous.
Speaker 3: Very well said Steve, really well said, I mean joj's
Speaker 3: very quickly this social cohesion breakdown.
Speaker 2: We're seeing it across the country.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we are, and it's something extremely ugly. It's something
Speaker 14: that started sadly the day after October seventh last year.
Speaker 14: And again talked about Chris Mins before about how he
Speaker 14: just instinctively knows how to nip these issues as much
Speaker 14: as you possibly can in the bard and to have
Speaker 14: completely de escalating and welcome and but also strong language,
Speaker 14: a very clear message that there is absolutely no tolerance
Speaker 14: for this kind of behavior in Australia. Whatever your pet peeve,
Speaker 14: whatever your pet issue, whatever's happening in the Old Country
Speaker 14: or overseas or whatever.
Speaker 4: We are a.
Speaker 14: Strong multicultural nation. I'm very proud of that. There are
Speaker 14: a lot of people who say that it doesn't work
Speaker 14: and it's never going to work. We've proven them wrong
Speaker 14: until now. And if people are going to carry on
Speaker 14: like this, they are just proving the people who say
Speaker 14: that Australia can't actually that Australia is a racist country,
Speaker 14: or that Australia can't function as a multicultural society. They
Speaker 14: are proving those people right and they should be absolutely
Speaker 14: ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 3: Steve Price, Johulda Brown, thank you both very much. Now
Speaker 3: returning to the US election, now, Kamala Harris may have
Speaker 3: reached a new level of cringe over the weekend with
Speaker 3: this surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live, where she urged
Speaker 3: the US to keep Karmela ahead of voting day.
Speaker 8: Like legally Blondela and start decorating for Christmas.
Speaker 15: Follow Lala La, because.
Speaker 3: What don't we always say, keep Kamala and carry on.
Speaker 2: Alah oh God.
Speaker 3: Skynies contributor Kosha Gada joins me, now, does this cheese
Speaker 3: work with Americans? And what about also the claims that
Speaker 3: this might have breached the FCC that's the Federal Communications
Speaker 3: Commission Equal time rule.
Speaker 16: Yes, it's kind of for Team Trump. I think the
Speaker 16: gift that keeps giving because there's all those angles to it.
Speaker 16: I don't think the cheese works. You know, if it's
Speaker 16: done in good dosages, where the person is a serious
Speaker 16: candidate and is taken very seriously and then kind of
Speaker 16: lets loose in these formats and does a little bit
Speaker 16: of comedy on SML, it could work, and it has
Speaker 16: worked in the past. But in her case, her biggest
Speaker 16: problem that she's been struggling with, or one of them,
Speaker 16: is she's not taken seriously as somebody who really has
Speaker 16: a hand on issues or has strong positions substantively anyway.
Speaker 16: And then when you keep leaning into sort of the
Speaker 16: comedy and the style piece of it, when there isn't
Speaker 16: a substance backing it up, I don't think it actually
Speaker 16: works as a campaign matter for her. And then the
Speaker 16: second point is it did land NBC in hot water,
Speaker 16: as you mentioned, because they're one of the four free
Speaker 16: to air broadcast networks in the US, and there are
Speaker 16: FCC rules that say if you give time to one
Speaker 16: candidate so closely election.
Speaker 2: You have to give it to the other.
Speaker 16: And I think there was some breaking news that they
Speaker 16: are going to be forced to give ninety seconds to
Speaker 16: team Trump to run an ad in the middle of
Speaker 16: Sunday night football, which may have just happened, or maybe
Speaker 16: it's Monday night football. He's going to be doing that
Speaker 16: to equate that so that they get out of the hot,
Speaker 16: wet water that they put themselves in.
Speaker 3: Now, Joe Biden is continuing his kind of weird moments.
Speaker 3: I mean, first he called half of Americans garbage. He
Speaker 3: then was biting babies, and now this.
Speaker 17: Now, I know some of you guys are at tempted
Speaker 17: to think as mucho guys. I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 17: and I'm serious, these are the kind of guys like
Speaker 17: a smacking ass, I mean Karsher.
Speaker 3: At this point, you could be forgiven for thinking he
Speaker 3: was trying deliberately to damage Karmala's campaign.
Speaker 16: That is a theory that seems to keep getting some traction,
Speaker 16: certainly on social media. People think that who knows if
Speaker 16: that's true. Possibly, I think also show it's really quite
Speaker 16: stunning if you think about it, that the sitting president
Speaker 16: has not been on the campaign trail more. And there's
Speaker 16: a reason why. This is the reason we can see it,
Speaker 16: but that if you just step back and think about that,
Speaker 16: you know he could have been the biggest voice or
Speaker 16: advocate for his for her, his vice president, and he
Speaker 16: hasn't been, and I think that's the reason why. But
Speaker 16: the garbage comment, I think specifically this one is fine,
Speaker 16: But that one, I think is going to go back
Speaker 16: and history books are going to look at it as
Speaker 16: something that was probably quite material in terms of the
Speaker 16: damage that it did and the unforced era that it
Speaker 16: delivered to the Karma campaign.
Speaker 3: I suppose it depends on the election results ultimately whether
Speaker 3: it does go down in history.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, let's have a quick look at London.
Speaker 3: The Tories have installed their first black later of the Conservatives.
Speaker 3: Kosha disappointment has been well received widely.
Speaker 16: Yes, it has been. I think you know. The big
Speaker 16: picture for the Tories though, is they still are navigating
Speaker 16: a pretty fundamental identity crisis and brand crisis if you
Speaker 16: just look at the gains that they had in twenty
Speaker 16: nineteen and then the shillaking that they took in the
Speaker 16: last election so here and what that's going to take
Speaker 16: is some real change, I think, and courage to take
Speaker 16: on the issues that a large portion of their constituency
Speaker 16: feels disenfranchised from around immigration and trade and culture. Wars
Speaker 16: and all of that, and so she has a real opportunity,
Speaker 16: I think, to seize that. It's a wide opening in
Speaker 16: terms of taking on those policy positions. And if she
Speaker 16: does that, I think she has been received well and
Speaker 16: she will have an opportunity to do that. If she doesn't,
Speaker 16: then I think you're just going to continue to see
Speaker 16: that fracturing and that sort of ternal civil war in
Speaker 16: the Torries Party that we're seeing parallels of that in
Speaker 16: the US and even here to some extent.
Speaker 3: All Right, Kosha Data, thank you so much, really appreciate
Speaker 3: your time.
Speaker 2: Now still to come on the show.
Speaker 3: I've got exclusive polling on who labor voters think would
Speaker 3: be best to replace Alban Easy and these results are
Speaker 3: going to make him very nervous. Also, former Ambassador to
Speaker 3: Washington Joe Hockey would join me just two days out
Speaker 3: from the election. He gives his view on how Trump
Speaker 3: and Harris are doing in the critical states. That interview
Speaker 3: after this quick break, welcome back. Well, there aren't many
Speaker 3: Australians who've spent as much time with Donald Trump as
Speaker 3: my next guest, Joe Hockey. When he was our ambassador
Speaker 3: in Washington, he dealt with the US President often even
Speaker 3: playing golf together.
Speaker 2: He has very unique insights on how this election is
Speaker 2: playing out. I spoke with him a little earlier.
Speaker 3: I started by asking him he agreed with the polls
Speaker 3: that the two candidates are now deadlocked.
Speaker 1: Well, it appears to be deadlock, Sharry. It's the polls
Speaker 1: haven't moved much at all since Kamala Harris took over
Speaker 1: as the Democratic nominee. But I still feel that there
Speaker 1: is what they're calling the shy Trump voter yet to appear,
Speaker 1: and they'll only appear after the ballots counted on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: And at the moment, I think the polls are underestimating
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's vote.
Speaker 2: As they have done in the past two elections.
Speaker 3: But there's also talk that Harris may be successful in Iowa.
Speaker 3: If that's the case, what does that mean for Trump
Speaker 3: and whether he would need to pick up more of
Speaker 3: the other bluewell states.
Speaker 1: Look, I don't give much credence at all to that
Speaker 1: one off poll. It's the trend that matters, and the
Speaker 1: constant trend is that the numbers are deadlocked in the
Speaker 1: key states on Tuesday night. On election Night, I'll be
Speaker 1: watching North Carolina very closely. That is a state that
Speaker 1: will come in pretty early with its results. But I
Speaker 1: just want to warn all of your viewers. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure are going to be glued to the TV as
Speaker 1: you will be, and everyone will be on Wednesday your time.
Speaker 1: It could take weeks for these results to come in.
Speaker 1: I just caution everyone that it's going to Unless there
Speaker 1: is a sweeping victory on Tuesday night, then it's going
Speaker 1: to take days, if not weeks, to get a result.
Speaker 3: You've been speaking about the critical seats of Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: There was a really fascinating report on CNN I just mentioned,
Speaker 3: and it's interesting in itself that CNN is even running this,
Speaker 3: but Harri speaking out of both sides of her mouth
Speaker 3: when it comes to the Middle East. She's running adverts
Speaker 3: in Michigan saying she's not going to be silent about
Speaker 3: the Palestinian suffering, and then running adverts in Pennsylvania that
Speaker 3: she's always supported Israel right to defend itself. Does this
Speaker 3: show that this particular issue could shift votes.
Speaker 2: In these critical seats?
Speaker 3: But also, what do you think it says about Harris
Speaker 3: that she can run campaigns like this? How can either
Speaker 3: side actually trust her?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 1: I mean that's part of the issue. As people form
Speaker 1: a judgment about Harris, they're going to look at not
Speaker 1: only what she's promising, which I must say is very
Speaker 1: light on, but it's what she's done that is the issue.
Speaker 1: And she has been a part of the Biden administration. Currently,
Speaker 1: seventy three percent of Americans feel that the country is
Speaker 1: heading in the wrong direction. Now, if you're an incumber
Speaker 1: government anywhere with those sorts of numbers, you are finished.
Speaker 1: And the challenge that Kamala Harris has faced is she's
Speaker 1: trying to run as a new fresh face and yet
Speaker 1: she is part of the incumbency. Something illustrates it better
Speaker 1: than the fact that she is trying to walk both
Speaker 1: sides of the fence in relation to Israel and the
Speaker 1: war in Gaza and the war against Hezbollah. The fact
Speaker 1: is there are four hundred thousand crucial Islamic votes in Michigan,
Speaker 1: and if they choose not to vote, it's highly unlikely
Speaker 1: they will vote for Donald Trump. But he did reach
Speaker 1: out to them the other day. But if they choose
Speaker 1: not to vote, then that is going to cost Harris
Speaker 1: probably Michigan overall, and it may even lead to her
Speaker 1: losing the overall election.
Speaker 3: Joe, do you think Kamala Harris has properly addressed concerns
Speaker 3: about how her administration would be different from the Biden
Speaker 3: administration and also her flip flopping positions over the years,
Speaker 3: whether it's on fracking, on prisoners, transitioning, on taxpayer funds,
Speaker 3: on the Middle East, and in a sense, perhaps is
Speaker 3: she lucky that she's had such a shot campaign window
Speaker 3: because the longer we go on, it seems like the
Speaker 3: honeymoon is fading.
Speaker 5: Well, that's right.
Speaker 1: It actually has helped her to have a short campaign
Speaker 1: because she hasn't come under the sort of policy scrutiny
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump or Joe Biden or most other candidates
Speaker 1: would have faced at the moment. If you were to
Speaker 1: ask the average voter, what is Kamala Harris's tax policy,
Speaker 1: what is her border policy? Even what is her policy
Speaker 1: on the Middle East? You wouldn't be able to get answers.
Speaker 1: The main focus of Harris' voters is that Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: is not Donald Trump, and she has built a coalition
Speaker 1: of Andy Trumper's that stretch from Liz Cheney on the right,
Speaker 1: and Liz Cheney is right wing, a Republican right through
Speaker 1: to Bernie sand As an AOC on the left. Now,
Speaker 1: that is a very broad coalition. The only thing that
Speaker 1: unites all of those people is that they despise Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Whereas Donald Trump has focused on policies lower taxes, less regulation.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with him, but he wants to introduce
Speaker 1: an increased tariffs, he wants to rebuild the border wall,
Speaker 1: and he wants to move illegals out of the United States.
Speaker 1: He wants to open up the energy opportunities of the
Speaker 1: United States. He actually has quite a wide policy platform.
Speaker 1: And so in response to that, you've got Elon Musk
Speaker 1: on one side of his support base, and you've got
Speaker 1: the Teamster's Truck Driving Union, which has always supported the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party on the other side. Seventy percent of the
Speaker 1: members truck drivers of America. Most of them, if not
Speaker 1: almost all of them, have never gone to university. They're
Speaker 1: hard working, blue collar workers. Seventy percent of the union
Speaker 1: members voted to support Donald Trump ahead of Harris. And
Speaker 1: so Trump's coalition is built on policy. Harris's coalition is
Speaker 1: built on not being Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Just finally, Joe Trump is said to have targeted the
Speaker 3: young male voter through podcasts like Joe Rogan, but our
Speaker 3: female voters coming out to support Harris like the Democrats
Speaker 3: were relying on, well.
Speaker 1: You know, Sharri. The thing is this, Donald Trump won
Speaker 1: more white women in twenty sixteen than Hillary Clinton. He
Speaker 1: won the votes of more white women than Joe Biden
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. In both elections, they knew that was abortion,
Speaker 1: that abortion under Donald Trump, with the Supreme Court appointed
Speaker 1: by the Republicans, would refer power back to the States.
Speaker 1: So the abortion policy was pretty settle. The question is
Speaker 1: are those people now really changing on the issue of abortion.
Speaker 1: And what Harris is doing is she is targeting. She
Speaker 1: was targeting at first young people on campuses to get
Speaker 1: them to vote, but she has now changed tack and
Speaker 1: focused on young women. And what they've found is that
Speaker 1: all the Democratic efforts to win over young men were
Speaker 1: failing and they were turning to Donald Trump. So there
Speaker 1: is a battle of the sexes in this election, more
Speaker 1: pronounced than almost any other election in American history. But
Speaker 1: I am still a little skeptical as to whether those
Speaker 1: issues that influence the sexual divide are going to be
Speaker 1: the issues that are actually going to materially change the
Speaker 1: level of support for Trump and Harris Lor.
Speaker 3: Joe, I hope it's not a week long wait for
Speaker 3: the results or more. As you've suggested, it'll drive us
Speaker 3: all crazy. Joe Hockey, thank you very much for your time.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much.
Speaker 17: Hey you.
Speaker 3: And right after the break, brand new polling on who
Speaker 3: Labor voters want to replace alban Easy that exclusive polling
Speaker 3: right after this break. Plus why are bureaucrats playing council
Speaker 3: culture with the Australian flag.
Speaker 2: That's after this break. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well we've got exclusive polling now and it shows that
Speaker 3: when Labor voters were asked who they could choose if
Speaker 3: they if the party could choose a different leader from
Speaker 3: Anthony Albanisi, who would they like to pick? And the
Speaker 3: Labor figure who came out on top was Treasurer Jim
Speaker 3: Chalmers with twenty one percent of voters choosing him. He
Speaker 3: was followed by Danya Plibasek with seventeen percent of Labor
Speaker 3: voters choosing her. Tony Burke, who fancies himself a future
Speaker 3: leader don't know why, had only five percent of support
Speaker 3: from Labor voters surveyed. About half of the voters actually
Speaker 3: didn't know who to pick.
Speaker 2: Let's bring it now.
Speaker 3: Labor figure and GXO Strategies director Cameron Milner who's in London,
Speaker 3: and Farmer Howard advisor David Gazard. Cameron, your firm commissioned
Speaker 3: this polling. What does it tell us about how voters
Speaker 3: view the Prime minister.
Speaker 15: Well, the results aren't good for Albow because cost of
Speaker 15: living is the number one issue for Australians and then
Speaker 15: there's daylight. But two thirds of those people hold don't
Speaker 15: think Labor's doing a good job on cost of living.
Speaker 15: They think they're doing a terrible or poor job. So
Speaker 15: every time Lane tries to get the message out in
Speaker 15: cost of living, there's another Albo fiasco, another buying a
Speaker 15: million dollar house or a Connus upgrade. It's crowding up
Speaker 15: the message. And so what we pold was whether Labor
Speaker 15: voters wanted to see someone else than Elbow. And as
Speaker 15: we saw clearly head and shoulders Jim Chalmers and Tenny
Speaker 15: plebersek streets in front of the other leadership contenders if
Speaker 15: Albo was not to be the leader.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet you have leadership rumblings. I mean people
Speaker 3: talk about Jason Clair, they talk about Tony Burke. We
Speaker 3: going to this poll No One, not even Labor voters
Speaker 3: five percent want those two figures David desired. There was
Speaker 3: a three point left in the coalition's primary voter clotting
Speaker 3: to this pole, taking it to thirty nine percent. So
Speaker 3: it still needs to get a bit higher for Dutton
Speaker 3: to be in a governing position. But in terms of voters, well,
Speaker 3: they didn't give Dutton a glowing endorsement either, so do
Speaker 3: you think he needs to improve his image as well?
Speaker 6: The coalition's figures are inching higher with each polling cycle,
Speaker 6: so I don't think anyone will be particularly alarmed with that.
Speaker 6: And bear in mind that there has only been one
Speaker 6: one term government in Australia's history, that was the nineteen
Speaker 6: thirty one scull And government, so it would buck historical
Speaker 6: odds for Dutton to get over the line this time.
Speaker 6: That said, he inches closer and closer and closer, and
Speaker 6: the voters have yet to really switch on in this campaign,
Speaker 6: so it will be down to him to line a
Speaker 6: series of policies that will go to cost a living
Speaker 6: to get in touch with people when they switch on
Speaker 6: into this campaign. So I think everything is going in
Speaker 6: Peter Dutton and the Coalition's favor in this selection, although
Speaker 6: it is very very tight, but tighter than you would
Speaker 6: expect in a first term Albanesi government.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing that, as you say, it's been nearly
Speaker 3: one hundred years since there was a one term labor
Speaker 3: government and yet Albin Easy will be fighting to hold
Speaker 3: onto power now. James Patterson has grilled the Home's Home
Speaker 3: Affair Secretary in the Senate today, criticizing her priorities after
Speaker 3: the Australian flag was dumped from photographs on their website. Cameron,
Speaker 3: We've got national security, border protection issues, community safety, yet
Speaker 3: this is their priority, dumping the Australian flag.
Speaker 15: Well it's a victory for the wife, isn't it. And
Speaker 15: no doubt they had focus groups and they took off site,
Speaker 15: off site dat studies to see whether the austrain flag.
Speaker 8: Should be removed.
Speaker 15: Look, the public service should be doing one job and
Speaker 15: one job only. It should be tacking cost of living,
Speaker 15: not doing things like taking the Australian flag away, especially
Speaker 15: as you say, at a time of heightened national security,
Speaker 15: national unity, and the Australian flag represents all that. So
Speaker 15: the public service are off on their own work agenda
Speaker 15: here and it's not good.
Speaker 3: Well, here was the official responding to James Patterson's questioning,
Speaker 3: have a look.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll play you that grab when we've got it.
Speaker 18: Now, have a look, the secretary, I couldn't help but
Speaker 18: notice that there was a change recently in the photographs
Speaker 18: of senior departmental officials on the Home Affairs website. Are
Speaker 18: you familiar with that change?
Speaker 9: There's some time ago I asked my staff to redo
Speaker 9: the photographs of the senior executive without flags in the background.
Speaker 9: Is that the change you're referring to?
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, So sometime between July and August, we noticed
Speaker 18: that the headshots of yourself another senior officials in the
Speaker 18: department previously had the Australian national flag as well as
Speaker 18: the Aboriginal Torres state island the flags in the headshot,
Speaker 18: and then after that period they're no longer in the headshot.
Speaker 18: What was the reason for removing the flags from the headshots?
Speaker 9: I wanted to have photos that were less formal.
Speaker 3: It does such a sensational job, James Patterson, but you'd
Speaker 3: have to think this is just counsel culture gone mad.
Speaker 3: When the Home Affairs Department removes Australian flags, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2: David Gazard.
Speaker 3: As we speak, Israel is on standby for Iran threatening
Speaker 3: to another retaliation strike. There are concerns that this is
Speaker 3: going to happen in the next forty eight hours. I mean,
Speaker 3: Iran has said in media reports that they plant it
Speaker 3: hit Israel again.
Speaker 2: Before the US election.
Speaker 3: The US has implored them not to take that action.
Speaker 3: David Gazard, this is really worrying. You know, it's hard
Speaker 3: to know what exactly to believe, but we are seeing
Speaker 3: reports that Iran is preparing its ballistic missiles once again.
Speaker 6: It looks it's consistent with the timing of the US election.
Speaker 6: That would be point number one that I'd make if
Speaker 6: they do anything they want to get in before the
Speaker 6: election lest they face the wrath of a possible Trump election.
Speaker 6: The other thing I would, though, say, is that Iran
Speaker 6: has talked a big game throughout the last year, and
Speaker 6: it's been happy to let its proxies in Hamas and
Speaker 6: Hezbala do all the wet work, which makes you wonder
Speaker 6: what's in it for Hamas and hez Balat they have
Speaker 6: They've endured all the carbage doing all the work for Iram.
Speaker 6: The other point I'd make is this. Iran would have
Speaker 6: to be very mindful of what Israel has done through
Speaker 6: superb work, through its intelligence agencies and its operatives, and
Speaker 6: they would be thinking at the moment, well, if we
Speaker 6: strike Israel, what may happen to us? So I've watched
Speaker 6: Iran for months now. They talk a big game and
Speaker 6: it's never followed up. Instead, they leave all the work
Speaker 6: to its proxies who endure all the damage, which makes
Speaker 6: you wonder why people in Lebanon and in Gaza continue
Speaker 6: to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very concerned about this because you know, you're right,
Speaker 3: they do have left a lot to the proxies.
Speaker 2: But we have seen two direct attacks from.
Speaker 3: Iran to Israel, which is unprecedented, and you know, I
Speaker 3: think we do.
Speaker 2: Need strong US leadership.
Speaker 3: It's why this election is so critical for all of
Speaker 3: us in the West, because you've got these Ayatolas who
Speaker 3: are in boldened. They really shook Israel with US last attack,
Speaker 3: and then all you see from Joe Biden and Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris's oh ceasefire. Let Iran continue to amass its nuclear capabilities,
Speaker 3: continue to develop its nuclear capabilities. You know, eventually the
Speaker 3: US and Israel will have to deal with that, will
Speaker 3: have to target the nuclear sites, because what are we
Speaker 3: going to do sit back here and let them develop
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon that would affect all of us in
Speaker 3: the West. It's insanity, Cameron, Just quickly before we go,
Speaker 3: I want to get your opinion on this. Albanesi's election
Speaker 3: style performance yesterday in Adelaide.
Speaker 2: He didn't give an interview for five.
Speaker 3: Days, he was hiding from the media because of the
Speaker 3: upgrade scandal, and then we see him come out and
Speaker 3: basically declare that the cost of living crisis is all
Speaker 3: but over.
Speaker 2: What did you think of that?
Speaker 15: Well, it was Albers's mission accomplished moment, wasn't it. Whether
Speaker 15: it's a crowd of faithful ALP members rather than the
Speaker 15: scrutiny of the media pack. This is how he wants
Speaker 15: to communicate, but it's not cutting through. Voters are speaking.
Speaker 15: As we saw in our whole sharing up. Albanie has
Speaker 15: a huge problem with credibility with voters on the issue
Speaker 15: of cotts. A living and a set speech in Adelaide
Speaker 15: is not going to fix that for him. Nor's cunning
Speaker 15: heckstep for university elites.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Cameron Milner in London, David Gazzard. Thank
Speaker 3: you both so much. Now still to come, Daniel Andrews
Speaker 3: says Jewish donors should stop funding creative endeavors that have
Speaker 3: refused to denounce anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: Talk about that in a moment.
Speaker 3: Well, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has urged Jewish philanthropists to
Speaker 3: stop funding groups that have refused to condemn both anti
Speaker 3: Semitism and the October seven attacks. This comes after Jewish
Speaker 3: artists and causes have been frozen out by so called progressives. Well,
Speaker 3: we talk about this, but I think we do need
Speaker 3: to support businesses and productions that do give a voice
Speaker 3: to those that the left currently freezing out. And one
Speaker 3: production that hasn't got the attention it would normally receive
Speaker 3: from the left, and it deals with issues of gender identity,
Speaker 3: is called Yental. It's on at the Opera House and
Speaker 3: it's in direct response to the doxing of six hundred
Speaker 3: creatives and the Prohamas rally of course that took place
Speaker 3: on the Opera House on October nine. And I'm joined
Speaker 3: now by director and co writer of Yental, Gary Abrahams.
Speaker 2: Gary, good to see you now.
Speaker 3: You've specifically held this at the Opera House as a
Speaker 3: means to symbolically take it back.
Speaker 2: Why do you think.
Speaker 3: You're not getting the support that you should be for
Speaker 3: this production given it does deal with a lot of
Speaker 3: causes that are central to the left.
Speaker 19: Well, I think there's just an enormous discomfort and sort
Speaker 19: of uncomfortability that people have with Jewish content and Jewish
Speaker 19: stories at the moment. We premiered this play in twenty
Speaker 19: twenty two, so long before any of the political up
Speaker 19: people that we're sort of facing now, and we had
Speaker 19: an extraordinary action to it the first time round. The
Speaker 19: production guarded numerous awards. It was named by the Guardian
Speaker 19: antaim Art as one of the best shows in Australia.
Speaker 5: Know of the year.
Speaker 19: We then had it programmed at the malt House Theater
Speaker 19: in earlier this year in March, and that was obviously
Speaker 19: after October seven, and that's when we started to feel
Speaker 19: the discomfort within the industry and within the cultural sector
Speaker 19: around any material that deals with Jewish themes and Jewish content.
Speaker 3: Do you think this is reflected across the broader art space.
Speaker 3: Are you concerned Jewish voices and the arts are being erased?
Speaker 19: I think a lot of Jewish artists right now are
Speaker 19: feeling like they've been pushed into a very, very tough corner.
Speaker 19: A lot of the conversation within cultural circles over the
Speaker 19: past decade or so have been around who has the
Speaker 19: right to tell whose stories. So there's a lot of
Speaker 19: very very careful consideration around who gets to direct, who
Speaker 19: gets to write, who gets to tell whose stories. And
Speaker 19: I think many Jewish creatives feel that they've been pushed
Speaker 19: into a box where they're only allowed to tell Jewish
Speaker 19: stories at a time when no main stage companies are
Speaker 19: wanting to tell Jewish stories, and there is this discomfort
Speaker 19: around that.
Speaker 3: And then we've also seen a lot of Jewish artists
Speaker 3: being grilled over what their position is on the war
Speaker 3: before anyone would support them.
Speaker 2: It's utterly outrageous.
Speaker 3: All right, Gary, thank you for your time, and the
Speaker 3: Entil season has been extended until the seventeenth of November.
Speaker 3: I can't give a personal recommendation, I haven't seen it,
Speaker 3: but for more info go to the Upper House website.
Speaker 3: Now that's all we've got time for tonight. If you
Speaker 3: want to catch up with any of my interviews on
Speaker 3: the US election tonight, Joe Hockey in particular, our former Ambassador.
Speaker 3: You can head to the Sky News website to have
Speaker 3: a look at that Ross Greenwood as well.
Speaker 2: Every night this week.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring interviews live from the US, Big Interviews,
Speaker 3: so you're right up to date with what's going on
Speaker 3: with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. And no one will
Speaker 3: know more than Paul Murray, who right now is live
Speaker 3: in Dallas in the US.
Speaker 2: I'm going to
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