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Speaker 1: Gordon Talas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, play they would jump in the back of Reese's

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Speaker 2: bar and takes his watch off. His name was Blocker

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Speaker 2: Range and.

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Speaker 3: Now God and tell us like executive produced fight on

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Speaker 3: the set.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring it in.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to bring it in hard and fast, and

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Speaker 4: then I want you to come in over the top,

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Speaker 4: Ready through to one Gordon Talas.

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Speaker 1: Wow, welcome to the studio.

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Speaker 4: You are nervous, mate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as opposed to not sitting with Ready and Buzz

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Speaker 3: and of course Bulldog, our mean bulldog.

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Speaker 1: Make good to have you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for coming over as well for those short notice. Mate,

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Speaker 4: you really saved our ass this week.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you. You couldn't get a guest.

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Speaker 1: No, we just didn't. We just didn't. We just didn't

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Speaker 1: think ahead enough.

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Speaker 3: I threw a few up. I'm not going to mention

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Speaker 3: who the names where the boys live?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, Buzz, Buzz was busy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously watch watch all your podcasts and it

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Speaker 2: was good.

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Speaker 3: Do you watch it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I watch it comes across my feed and then

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Speaker 2: I go and I get into it that way you

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Speaker 2: delve into it. I'm not I don't have the podcast up,

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Speaker 2: but then I get to get into it and hit

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Speaker 1: Doesn't really sound like you do.

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Speaker 2: Actually I do so because they always have a link.

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Speaker 2: So I know that your brother is the executive producer,

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Speaker 2: and I know that he would be across all.

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Speaker 3: That he is.

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Speaker 1: Jack is and he's listening.

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Speaker 3: He's in the room, mate, Gordy, tough. Look, it's less

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Speaker 3: been said about it. A tough season for Kevy and the

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Speaker 3: Broncos mate, the old boys and the board. It's been

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Speaker 3: a problematic relationship. Yeah, in this off season, Gordy, think

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Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think so. I think the club

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Speaker 2: and where they're at. I like the short answer is

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Speaker 2: last year I thought they won six more games and

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Speaker 2: probably what they should have and everybody expected. But when

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Speaker 2: they got to the Grand Final, we go these guys

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Speaker 2: are superstars, and I think when they rubbed it all back,

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Speaker 2: they did this year. I reckon they lost six more

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Speaker 2: games than what they should have. So no, I think

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Speaker 2: Kevys safety Dave don He the CEO came and said

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Speaker 2: be a chance for Kevy. So he's been there, They've

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Speaker 2: got the wooden spoon. It's obviously teaching the young kids

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Speaker 2: how to how to win. I'm pretty sure he didn't

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Speaker 4: Have you sorry, have you spoke to Kevy? Because Kevy

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Speaker 4: are close. Kevy's got Blake. You played a lot with him.

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Speaker 4: How's he has he handled this year?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he would have had some rough moments.

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Speaker 2: But he's a real tough, resilient guy. You know what

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Speaker 2: he's at now. And he's done it the hard way, right,

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Speaker 2: He's like he like he was sitting at the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: So he's a pretty resilient, tough, tenacious guy. I know

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Speaker 3: He a question because it's one of those things like

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Like I went down to training the other day.

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Speaker 4: And this year like not even not giving them up,

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Speaker 2: They won They won four herd of the last twelve

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Speaker 2: And then the players get bad for that, but they don't.

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Speaker 2: But they're populou It's like beatle Mania, that's right.

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Speaker 3: And look it is so good for the game. I've

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Speaker 2: Walsh made my wife's sister her daughter's ten. She had

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Speaker 2: After the game, and then can ain't open up the window.

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Speaker 2: He goes good and what's that? And it was after

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Speaker 2: got to give me his jersey. That's like, so that

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Speaker 2: something else that you're dealing with. He's twenty one and

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Speaker 2: got knocked out and you're learning. What are you laughing

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Speaker 4: I was just going to say, like, I know you

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Speaker 3: I missed puniverse. Yeah a daughdy just talking about, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Central? Central's A say that was that was a yellow,

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Speaker 3: Faty Vaughton told me a story that he said he

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Speaker 3: my dad said to me, are you okay? And he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I suppose Wally. Wally was the one that

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Speaker 2: the only way I got my Saint George's career was

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Speaker 2: Rod Ready came and coached in eighty six eighty seven

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Speaker 3: That's what they used to do, boy said for Jack

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's a concern here of Gordon. What shampoo did

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Speaker 3: you blace used, because I'm pretty sure you all lost

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then so then they give us steaks and oh yeah, yeah, what.

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Speaker 2: So obviously because we used to like live together and

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Speaker 2: Got your dad's jacket on from Vegas? So like you

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Speaker 2: and I stood on him and I couldn't get them up.

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Speaker 2: So the twigging giggleberries are out everywhere, and I chased him.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't get him brown, he took off. God, that's all time.

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Speaker 3: Yea from Sizzler. Yeah, Gordy. To go from being a

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Speaker 3: playing instinctive football, you're not thinking about that too much

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Speaker 2: It was because you just doubted everything that you've like

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Speaker 2: trained the whole preseason. Basically, Wayne didn't say too much

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Speaker 2: I was in the Brian Smith dressing room. Right I'm

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Speaker 2: knowing every single player just sit there to that right

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Speaker 2: by Brian Smith every day, every day of the week

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Speaker 2: to learn the structure of rugby league and to learn

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Speaker 2: best football education, football education, and then Wayne is more

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Speaker 1: So once you had that football education, then going to.

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Speaker 2: The Wayne Wayne's Wayne's Wayne's just making sure that you

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Speaker 2: the weakness on everybody else and how you go and

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Speaker 2: I think, I actually think the blend of both of

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Speaker 2: because when Nathan Brown went to coach with him and

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Speaker 2: he was watching his videos of Brandon, what's ballyac like

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Speaker 2: because he coached me. It's just smitty but just I

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Speaker 2: didn't say better bloke, but just smitty. But he knows

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Speaker 2: when to relax a bit more, where Bryan Smith just

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Speaker 2: didn't know when to He just did not know when

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Speaker 3: And that is true with Belliate because his football education

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Speaker 3: was Tim Sheens, who was really highly technical into Wayne Bennett,

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Speaker 3: who was his assistant coach who was so he had

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Speaker 3: that exact same experience.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, so the famous one I think we're playing

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Speaker 2: even the Knights. And they're right up and then Craig

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Speaker 2: our video and he sits there and he's about to

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Speaker 2: He goes, I don't worry about that, Craig. We don't

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Speaker 2: Hees know about that. It's about these guys. It's actually

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Speaker 2: about what you guys do. So Wayne got that part

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Speaker 2: sets it all up. No nor about it, boys, Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: it's not about that. It's about you tomorrow night. So

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Speaker 2: then you don't sit through any videos and it's all

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Speaker 2: probably the sweet balance.

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Speaker 3: Jack was saying that about Wayne. He said, like the

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Speaker 3: team would suffer a bad loss sometimes on the Monday

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Speaker 3: over one sitting there going, oh god, here we go,

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Speaker 3: and he just walks in and goes, we're going, don't

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Speaker 3: for next week. Let's get out there and train, get

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Speaker 3: it out in the field. Ninety two to ninety three, Gordy,

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Speaker 3: it's only like you're the two clubs. You've got a

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Speaker 3: years And did you play in ninety three?

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Speaker 2: I played in ninety three. Ninety two I played in

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Speaker 2: the Under twenty one s Grand Final against West Stephen Kearney.

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Speaker 2: We got beaten. There sat there and watched the Bronx play.

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Speaker 2: pulled his calf, heard his calf about a couple of

434
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 2: weeks out. So I played the last couple of rounds,

435
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 2: played the semi final against the Bulldogs, played the semi

436
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: final against the Raiders who were going good. Then Dave

437
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: comes back, so I get put on the bench for

438
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 2: the final. Then Steve O breaks his some tried the

439
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 2: first minute and I'm thinking I'm going to go on here,

440
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 2: and then they put Jeff Hardy on. But Jeff was

441
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 2: more probably going to play in the front row middle

442
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: type role, which will right. So we we we were

443
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 2: really confident of beating the Broncos. Because we beat them up.

444
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 2: There at have packed out ayin z Stadium.

445
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 3: Who was in that side for them that you elf heavy.

446
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: Chris John's, Steve run Off, Glenn Lazarus, Andrew g Trevor Mark,

447
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: Hon Brad Terry.

448
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 3: Merschell, but Brad mccle was, Clove Churchill, but Kevy was

449
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 3: the best.

450
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: The wingers where Michael Hancock Willy can't say they pretty

451
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 2: much would have had seven or eight Australian players.

452
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 3: How they fit that under sar Oh well away.

453
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 2: But well, well it's changed now. Actually the true story

454
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 2: on that is when I went to court, a lot

455
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 2: of the Dragons players run more than the Broncos players. Yes,

456
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 2: so because they didn't have managers, Wayne kept them away

457
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: from managers. And don't forget when the Broncos started there

458
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,239
Speaker 2: would have been two hundred Brisbane Rugby League players. They

459
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: all wanted to go to the Broncos every single one

460
00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 2: of them, so Redcliffe, West, North East if swhich they

461
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: all wanted, and South. Every one of those kids, like

462
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 2: the South guys earlier went to Camber that was Melonee,

463
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: but like the rest of the competition, all wanted to

464
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,959
Speaker 2: go play for the Broncos. There's probably only sixty spots

465
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: out of two hundred first graders, so like then, they

466
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: had a fair pick. And that's when everybody thinks the Broncos.

467
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 2: The Broncos aren't the Broncos what they were back then.

468
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: I know that. I know that Redcliffe now has a

469
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: thousand kids playing for Redcliffe, right, so it'll be the

470
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: only professional organization and they're going to be a juggernaut.

471
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: They go from under sixes through to a grade. The Knights,

472
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: don't they no.

473
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: One, no, no, no no. We got all these different

474
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 3: The Lakers don't.

475
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: No one does. Right. And then Brisbane used to own

476
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: that whole town and now Melbourne has a team there,

477
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 2: you know, like everything, like the Roosters stole Redcliffe of

478
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: us years ago and started getting the you know, so

479
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: like then, Brisbane's been eating into now with Redcliffe in

480
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: now with North Queensland so well, the North Queensland kids,

481
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: we all wanted to play for the Broncos, right, so

482
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: we'd go up by that to go play. Now they're

483
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: not like the ribbon Cotters and those, they're like the

484
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: Daily Cherry Evans growing up in North queens there now

485
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: would probably following Daily Cherrio, I mean Jonathan Thurston's boots. Like,

486
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: they're not like then. They're not moving like back in

487
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: the day. The people you know would probably bypass Newcastle.

488
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: Now they all probably want to stay there because of

489
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: the Joey and the John Spoys. That doesn't happen in

490
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: Broncos anymore. Like it doesn't like they're like the feeder

491
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 2: and order to go into the Titan. So, yes, the

492
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: Broncos are that big brand, but they don't have the same.

493
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: Cattle, the same power with that. Yeah, they don't have the.

494
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: Same players made they would have had sixty like they

495
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: had they would have had the best kids in Queensland.

496
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: They don't have them anymore.

497
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 3: Gordy, that transition from Saint George into the Broncos right

498
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: in the middle of it is Super League War. It's

499
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: just madness. If you if you get a if you

500
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: get a story with that with Super.

501
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: League you remember getting a phone call on the day

502
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: when it broke. I think the Cowboys, Cowboys and Raiders

503
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: signed up in Towns on the Saturday.

504
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: And that's right in the casino. Didn't they in the

505
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: Saturday night.

506
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 2: I don't know where it was. I get a phone call.

507
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: We were playing the Bulldogs on the Sunday. I get

508
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: a phone call six am. I'm like, that's weird. Back

509
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: at the walk from the from a bedroom mount, I'm

510
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: thinking something's wrong with the family. You go out and

511
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: as my manager and he goes, don't sign anything. I'm

512
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: getting out of Towns or if I can't get back

513
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: before a game, I'll be back after the game. That's weird.

514
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: Just don't sign anything. We go to the game. We're

515
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: playing the afternoon game at Coger Oval against the Dogs.

516
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: They come in and say, mate, if you sign this, mate,

517
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: I know there's a lord he payment to Rugby League,

518
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: you'll get twenty grand. Well, some of the guys signed it.

519
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: I said, oh, sorry, I don't have my manager. I'm like,

520
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: I don't have any here. I played dumb. They offered

521
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: one hundred.

522
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: Then yeah, yeah.

523
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: Twenty to one hundred on the spot. Yeah, And I said,

524
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play that's it coming here, and

525
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: I said, no, I'm not going to play. I don't

526
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm signing right. Then the next day we

527
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: went into Phillips Street and then we and then we

528
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: got there in the morning, lined up to go have

529
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: a meeting with either Phil gild, Bob Fulton, and James

530
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: Packer was in one of the rooms. So we lined

531
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: up all day and then we kept on getting pushed back.

532
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: Myself and Nathan Brown I sat there because it weren't

533
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: the big names. I were just getting the big names

534
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: done first, and then the Newcastle Boys or like whoever

535
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 2: it was.

536
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: It was like it was like cattle, just people sleeping

537
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: in the corridors, waiting for their.

538
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: Term, waiting for your chance to get a meeting. Who

539
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: was walking in there and Phil Gill called me a

540
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: bench play. Oh wow, ma, you're just a bench player.

541
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: And I thought that's a bit ash. And I walk

542
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: out and I'm walking past it and I saw Bob

543
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: Fulton with someone and then change Packers, good someone, what

544
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: do you want? He gets come in here, he goes,

545
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: I'll offer you this much money, come and sign for

546
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: the Roosters. I'm like, that's fucking really good. That's the

547
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: most money I've ever heard of in my life. But

548
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: your Rooster's coach two doors down just called me a

549
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: bench player, right, So that's that's just one story. But there's,

550
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: but there's And then there was meeting up. There was

551
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: probably three months of meetings for me, and then I

552
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: didn't sign with anybody. I would have been one of

553
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: the last ones because I wanted to play State of Origin.

554
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: Fatty Rangey said, have you signed? I said, no, I haven't,

555
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: and then I went back to the Drains and I

556
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: want to stay here. And another meeting, the Dragons voted

557
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: in our cool room, in our night club, underneath the

558
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: thin we voted up like fifty five to three to

559
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: go to Adelaide with the Super League, the whole class,

560
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Saint George St. George much just so like that because

561
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: we all wanted to stay together, because Chuck Brownie, myself

562
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: and Steve and all these young guys, so we knew

563
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: we were going to get paid, but it's just we

564
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: just wanted to stay together. We didn't want to be

565
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: torn apart. And at that time, that's when Saints were

566
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: going to merge with the Roosters. It was just it

567
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: was everywhere and you didn't know who to trust. You

568
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: didn't and then being a young kid from Townsville, they

569
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 2: didn't grow up, they didn't grow up with money, you know,

570
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: and you're going in there and you negotiating yourself with

571
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: some of the most powerful men you know in this

572
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: country and then in sports sports administration, and you know,

573
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: you just didn't know who to trust at that time.

574
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: So I chose super League. I chose And the reason

575
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: I chose super League is because North Queensland signed with him,

576
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: and say did the Broncos, and it was a chance

577
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: for me to get home.

578
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: Hey, Gordy. So it's well documented now. So you have

579
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: to have had to have a year out of the game.

580
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: How do you look back at that now? You know

581
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: it was a very strong stance to do that, but

582
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: how do you look back at now? Is there any

583
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: regrets of any kind, like as far as a year

584
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: out of the game, et cetera.

585
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: There's all different emotions. You can thank Wally tell Us

586
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: Senior for that because I was doing I get foot

587
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: in mouth a fair bit. But I was sitting there

588
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: getting a getting interviewed from a reporter and they said, oh,

589
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: what if super League doesn't get up. I said, well,

590
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: I'll said out a year then and I'll wait for it.

591
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: Then fast forward Judge Burchett. They lose the court case

592
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: because I was training with the Broncos and where a

593
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: month after the season started and it kicks off and

594
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: it starts a bit later, and because I said it,

595
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: I just stay in Brisbane and I was trying to win,

596
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: trying to win my own case the plan they put

597
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: in in junction against me. I went and had a

598
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: couple of meetings with the Dragons, went down there secretly

599
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: and David Waite was a coach and they offered me

600
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: to fly down and play. But I thought it was

601
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: a bit unfair because it was about halfway through the year,

602
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: and I did. I sort of had a couple of

603
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: moments where I second guessed myself when I said to Dad,

604
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: I said, oh, what do you think I should do?

605
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: Because what did you say you're going to do here?

606
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: Just be a man of your word, And to me, now,

607
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: that's that's great advice because it taught me something. So

608
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: if you're ever going to say something, back it up.

609
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: And I learned a lot about myself that when you

610
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: retire from footy, no one really gives a shit like

611
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: no one because I'm walking the streets in Brisbane, no

612
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 2: one cared, no one, no one cared. I thought I

613
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: was going good at signs up at the Dragons, I

614
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: played State of Origin. I started to get full of myself.

615
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Then I'm sitting walking the streets and no one cared,

616
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: and not even your teammates. Because if you're not playing

617
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: with them and you never played, or you never really

618
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: feel part of it.

619
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: What about your first interaction with was weighing the coach?

620
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: Then when you negotiated Simon, then what was what was

621
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: that negotiation like with Wayne?

622
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I I negotiated with believe it or not,

623
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: David Gallop. Yeah, so was he doing that? Yeah? He

624
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: was so. Dave Gallop and John Reeber and they were

625
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: super professional. They were and then and I'm sure the

626
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: arl were the same. But I never got to sit

627
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: down with him. I sat down with Gus and and

628
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: he had a massive job to do. And then James

629
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: Packer said that, and I didn't sit down with him

630
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: because my manager was in that one. Yeah, and then

631
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: I ended up going having a few meetings, still had

632
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: some meetings with the R but went to super League.

633
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about you finally get up to the Broncos

634
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: the following year. Tell us about Alfie Langer and Kevy Walters.

635
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: What was what was what was training like? First of all,

636
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: let's stick to on field for the first pick. What

637
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: was training like with those two?

638
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Well, the first time I met him was in the

639
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: ninety four State of Origin, and I get that and

640
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to play. Yeah, arguably the biggest game of

641
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: my life. Right, So I go to the MCG I

642
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: think it was Dune sixth or eighth nineteen ninety four.

643
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: To me, elf was the best player in the world, right,

644
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: so in ninety four, So he won ninety two, ninety three,

645
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 2: ninety four. It's Origin, so he still probably arguably one

646
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: of the best players in the world, if not the

647
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: best of my eyes. So we have the Great Week.

648
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Wally Laws is the coach, Melminning is Captain Male's last series.

649
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm playing with Steve while I'm playing with my heroes.

650
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: The guys that I said, I watched malplay. I was

651
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: seven when he played his first State of Origins. I

652
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: watched all these guys. I'm sitting there and then you

653
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: have the Great Week and the beers and all that.

654
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: But I remember just getting to like the final say

655
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: three minute, where while he starts to give the speech

656
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: in Elf just started spewing. He started spieling. I'm sitting beside,

657
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck am I going into here

658
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: like the best player? And that taught me a lot

659
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: about like origin, because I was enjoying the week and

660
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: this is going to be so good I'm playing for

661
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't that. So the pressure Elf put on himself

662
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: to perform for Queensland and his teammates that night was huge.

663
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: That but then that was Elf in every game, but

664
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: the bigger god, the more he spewed. So that's so

665
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: that's something. And then but then just but just how

666
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: they so that's the serious side of health, but how

667
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: they make training. And then when I run on the field,

668
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: you couldn't hear and him and him and Elf are

669
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: talking a different language to me, and I don't want

670
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: to I want to be piecy here and they're talking

671
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: to me, and I'll run on and I'm like, what

672
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: do you want me? And I'm like, where do you

673
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: and they just don't. I went yeah, and they're doing

674
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: all this and then they just follered, laughter and I

675
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: find each other and walked away from me, but like,

676
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: just relax. So then so then that message was just

677
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: just fucking relax, We've got your back, we're going here.

678
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: And then just just like the whole weekend training. I

679
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: remember meeting Wayne just at the aftermatch function. I said,

680
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how you coach these guys, and Elf goes,

681
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't, I fucking do. So then I thought, you know,

682
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: and they're coming from Bryan Smither thought, I got it.

683
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: I got it, Like I really want to be part

684
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: of that, like I like and I like that part,

685
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: you know, like I'll.

686
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: Call the environment that banter environment.

687
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, just switch on and off, you don't not

688
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: everything has to be serious. And then I retire and

689
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: sit on a couch and it's pretty much the same

690
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: a Gordy questions.

691
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: We all know, how Like there's nothing like game game

692
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: day fitness. So to be out of the game for

693
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: twelve months and then get back into it, you're not

694
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: only debuting with the Broncos, but it's your first game

695
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: for a long time. How'd you go?

696
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: Well, my last of a game for the Dragon, So

697
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: I probably would sit around one hundred and two hundred

698
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: and three the last game because we like, we started

699
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: training really hard. I'd probably finished my last game for

700
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 2: the Dragons. I was ninety eight when I weighed myself

701
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: after right, so I was nine out of ninety nine,

702
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: So that was after a game, so I probably would

703
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: have walked around one hundred and two kilos. Started training

704
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: with the Broncos, and next year I was probably one

705
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: hundred and six, got down one hundred and so training

706
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: and then when I sat out a year, I'd have

707
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: to go to training every day, so I'd train every day.

708
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: I was cannon follow if someone's injured or had to

709
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: do extra defense, I'd be there from but I just

710
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: because I was living with my brother, we'd go and

711
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: eat normal. I didn't realize by the time we're on

712
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: the trip away. We all went over to America and

713
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: met the Denver Broncos, went to San Francisco, coming back through,

714
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: went to Vegas. I was one hundred and fifteen, but

715
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: I thought I was a fit, so then so basically

716
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 2: just doing weights every day without an injury and just

717
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: eating and drinking, and then I couldn't get the weight

718
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: off for like a little bit, and then I ended

719
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: up starting season about one hundred and six and I

720
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: never went under probably one hundred and five one hundred

721
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: and four for the rest of my career. So I

722
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: put on some good muscle in that off season, but

723
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: I did put on a fair bit of weight too.

724
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: Made the Broncos got incredibly ninety seven ninety eight as well.

725
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: You get the Clove Churchill Medal in ninety eight. Two

726
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: thousand fantastic, like some of the players you play with

727
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: just once in the generation players but like a black

728
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: light shame weep key so I know where be but

729
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: stubborn so the least. But two thousand Grand Final, Yeah,

730
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: he played with a broken arm.

731
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I think he broke it. He broke

732
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: it against Luke Luke Bailey. I think the year about

733
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: two weeks out from the finals and then we get

734
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: we're playing Paramatta in the preliminary final and way goes,

735
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: you don't play this, you don't play the Grand final

736
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: because he thought he's just going to come back and play,

737
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: because no, no, you got to get through the eighty minutes, man,

738
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: You've got to get through. So Webby it wasn't quite right,

739
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: so they put we say that he strapped a really

740
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: bitter around it. It looked like mat was so big

741
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: and then that game was harder to get through, I

742
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: think for him then. So once he got through that

743
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: and he hit it and it didn't break because he

744
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: had a few contacts on it. But yeah, Webby's Webby's

745
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: one of those guys that they heard about, Shane Webke

746
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: and Big Dallas is his bigger brother, which was a

747
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: great player. But they went up to Twomba to watch

748
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: the school boys and they went to sign Stephen Price.

749
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: The Bulldogs were there, the North Queensland Cowboys were there.

750
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: All these clubs were gone up there to sign Stephen

751
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Price and they saw this bigger, fatter guy get a

752
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: smack in the mouth and he went mad for ten

753
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: minutes and it was Shane Webkey and Broncos went and

754
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 2: Cyril Connell Wayne said let's sign him. So they went

755
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: up there to sign Stephen Price and every cub was

756
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: bidden for him, so they so that's how they brought

757
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: Shane Webkey. But his dad died in a farming accident

758
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: and he put on a bit of weight and then

759
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: when he come back like there's mate. He's a mentally

760
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: tough guy.

761
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: Shanebkeit I heard a story that when he was playing,

762
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: he could fill the bones, crunching.

763
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: Gristling and all that. I think he made that up. Yeah, I.

764
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: Was taught a medical expert. They said that that couldn't

765
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: have happened biologically possible.

766
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: No, mate, He's Shane Webkey. Is meant like between he

767
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: and Petro. Petro. Petro one day broke his arm against

768
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Melbourne and all the Origin players right, and then it

769
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: was the young kids. And this is another thing about

770
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: the Broncos. He had to stand up and carry our

771
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: forward back and he was young here to do it.

772
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: And the doctor sort of saw Petro and went he

773
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: broke his arm, and the training as he broke his arm,

774
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: Wane did. At halftime, I hang my hat on you

775
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: because Wayne's got this point and he can get up.

776
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: You mate, you wanted your chance and blah blah blahlah blah.

777
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: The doctor goes Wayne. He broke his arm in the

778
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: first tackle and he just stayed out there. So Petros

779
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: so so some of those foot like front rowers. And

780
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 2: I play with those two guys and they have Laso too.

781
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: The sad part about Lasso was when we did the

782
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: World Club Challenge, he broke his ankle really bad at

783
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: Wigan he broke and then's roomy but Lazzo Lozo told

784
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: us all how to win as well.

785
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: Was wherebe you heard some stories about he was one

786
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: of those guys at training who would just never had

787
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: anything under one hundred miles an hour flight Dale finucn Lie,

788
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: He's like, where you just if.

789
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: You on one's one's eighty kilos and one's one hundred

790
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: and fifteen, they're not the same, were you? Like? Shane

791
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: Webkey was a beast and if you got in front

792
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: of him at training he would hurt you. And every

793
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: time he had to go there, it was pretty much

794
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: you had to Like, I watched he and he and

795
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: Thorny get it on a bit and Tony Carroll like

796
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: you'd have to really like if if you're in a

797
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: drill and Shaine Webke's in the drill, it was like

798
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: playing Paul Harrigan on Sunday.

799
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it's always it's always one speed.

800
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: Did he ever?

801
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: Were you there when Steve Irwin went to training something?

802
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Steve Vernon wanted to tack on me, right,

803
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: and this is true? So so I went, yeah, and

804
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 2: I love Steve and I think he played under twelve

805
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: and he played for the Clowndre Sharks and he was

806
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: a pretty good footy player and he thought he should

807
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: have played for Queensland on. So he comes to training

808
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: and he goes, I run at me, and I didn't

809
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: want to hurt him, but he's matt well. But then

810
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: he jumps on the back of crocodiles, right, so yeah,

811
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: I should have run it. So I run and attack

812
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: on me and he goes, fuck, I want someone to

813
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: run a bit harder. Yep, and he hit him right,

814
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: just fucking knocks him back, like knocks him back right,

815
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: and I know we see the footage and he gets

816
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: up and he goes crikey. And then and then we

817
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: go back in the dress room there having a burg rafter.

818
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: And then the reason why he said he said crikey

819
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: because he couldn't swear on because all of his old

820
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: footage when a snake or something, ship or whatever, and

821
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: he couldn't do it. So to get a television presence,

822
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: he couldn't swear, So crikey is ship. Look at this

823
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: big bugger?

824
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: Was that there?

825
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: We come up with the words it's his it's his

826
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: swear work.

827
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: Ed Cavally told Ed Caveley and you know, very well

828
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 3: known radio person in Australia. Uh you know who?

829
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: What is it?

830
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: You've got attention? Have you paying paying attention? Thank god

831
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: you follow it. So Ed Cavely tells story that he

832
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: was like fifteen and there were Broncos training watching and

833
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: Shane wek sh you were fast and they said bucking around.

834
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: Where's the effect of hey, Webke, you suck? Webby turned around,

835
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: picked him up and literally head first tumped him into

836
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 3: a bin.

837
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yeah, you couldn't really make any jokes about

838
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Webby and you know you tap him on the bumblet,

839
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: you tap him on the bit and he wouldn't like

840
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: like we're paying a test match and Brett Camawley's at

841
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: all like he's a real nervous talk and he come

842
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: on boys, you four older and I planed dress for himself.

843
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: Didn't say too much and some the bloke that nervous

844
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: talks does my head into right, but not. He was

845
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: just making sure that we're hey boys. You like when

846
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: I come here, good one there, one on one other

847
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: there there and he's doing that and he's going to

848
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: go so fur old Webb he goes, I fucking know

849
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: my job. You just fucking do.

850
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: Yours ship austraining and he got and but that's but

851
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: Webby's just a real simple guy that did his job

852
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 5: and did it really hard.

853
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: And then you know, like and then to the point,

854
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're playing Chief. I said, Chief will get

855
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: you today. Man, just man. When he rushes out, I said,

856
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: because watched him and I said, I'll just sit on

857
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: the edge just because you come to I said, he's

858
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: going to lift these guys. I said, just tip on, yeah,

859
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: each him coming and straighten up and made Chief that

860
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Chief annihilated him one day.

861
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: It was a game in n not out of nine

862
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: in Ireland. They were young. Yeah, he was a young guy.

863
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we're out to make a big statement against Jeff.

864
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah mate, but like mate Webb, we actually had all

865
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: the skill at training, but as soon as it come

866
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: into competition, he's simple. But that's his deal. Mate. I'll

867
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: get forward for you. You do your job like you

868
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: do your job, I'll do mine. And I love playing

869
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: with him.

870
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: Good to the two thousand and one Origin series. As

871
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: far as Origin, Concern for You was at probably one

872
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: of the most memorable because remember he's going in and

873
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: everyone was saying geez.

874
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: Well, Origin was over right. Fifty six sixteen, the year

875
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 2: before the hand grenade, we got clean made the clean

876
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: sweep was swept us and we just weren't in a

877
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: real good spot like we'd sort of struggled through that

878
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Origin period like from the nineties when that and then

879
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Joey comes along and you know, our Queensland side was

880
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: like my open. We had a really good forward pack,

881
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: but we struggled in the halves like at times to

882
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: get like a good five eight and Lockie was at

883
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: fullback so we had really good back three and you know,

884
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: and we just didn't have enough class. So in two

885
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: thousand and one to play the last of a game

886
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: at Lange Park as it was known, that's the last

887
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: time that a Queensland Side run out there where all

888
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: the old blokes run out, because now it's sun Corp Stadium.

889
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: But that was that was really really cool, coming off

890
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: the massive loss. We picked ten. We picked ten debutantes

891
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: and that's never happened other than the nine eighty so

892
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: even Fatty so we had more than that. But but

893
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 2: we didn't want to talk about John, like John doul

894
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: John Butter Gig, you knowd Miles. Carl Webb, like the

895
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: late great Carl Web scores that try and it was

896
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: just it was just a fantastic night for like Queensland,

897
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: because those young kids didn't carry any mental scars and

898
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: they just needed a bit of confidence and that's all

899
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: what we had to give them, like the old Blakes

900
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: just gave but their enthusiasm to walk in and not

901
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: be beaten.

902
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: But I got up in the morning to watch it

903
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: from from Wigan. I was a Wigan then and I

904
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: was sitting there watching it and new blokes I believe

905
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: scored on the first set. They kicked off bang bang

906
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: and went through g series on okay, so it goes

907
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: into series of leveled. Game three is on the line,

908
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: right decider. So on one night we used to always

909
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: gather all of us at Wigan and a lot of

910
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: the boys at Warrington. There are a lot of Broncos boys.

911
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: There were Andrew g there was alf and Kevy. We

912
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: had Pearl at Wigan. Mc hancock's at Salford. So everyone

913
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: used to go and meet a pearl sometimes and go

914
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: and have a beer. And that's what I got to

915
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: notice a lot of those blokes and like you know,

916
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: Andrew g and Mick Hancock when you're playing against him,

917
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: these blokes, but to meet him as such great fellas,

918
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: nicest guys in the world. We're having a drink myself

919
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: and Pearl and Alfie's over there on the drink and

920
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: I think Alf's wife had to basically carry alf to

921
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: the car. Anyway, I'll get a call. I'll get to cool.

922
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: We've got the day off. The next day. Pearl rings

923
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: me at midday and goes, do you want to hear

924
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: what happened when alf left there? And I don't tell

925
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: me that he had an accent or something. He said, Nah,

926
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: he's got a call. He's on a flight now to

927
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: to play Origin three. I said, you've got to be joking.

928
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: You kidding me, aren't you?

929
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: So?

930
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: Is that allowed back then?

931
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was no rule.

932
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: It happened the like in game one. We won in

933
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: game two, so I hurt my neck. That's when I

934
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: hurt my neck. Two days after then, we get beaten

935
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: in Sydney and Wayne calls us all and goes, mate,

936
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: we need someone like, who do you want? Like? Who's

937
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: going to lead us? And we're all sitting around having

938
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: a chat And I wasn't there but the rumor is

939
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: that the first person they rang was Jason Smith. Now

940
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: he was at Hull, and Hull said, no, that's that's

941
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: the rumor, but hopefully that's not because then Wayne's story

942
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: is he rings health said hey mate, there's a state

943
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: of origin and an ELF's words, where what took you

944
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: so long? And then Wayne knew that he was right

945
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: to come back and in camp that's the first time

946
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: I've never half, never said one joke, I've never seen

947
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: I've never seen a more news guy. He was totally different.

948
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: Now he he was like a rookie I reckon walking

949
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: into his first origin, the last one. And the way

950
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: he played that was that was a great night, Like

951
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: was he thirty five.

952
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: Thirty and Gordy was was enduring a bit of a

953
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: tough time at Warrington? Was yes, we didn't know at

954
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: Warrington he was by no means, he'd say, vintage ninety

955
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: ninety three. He was going past the other side and

956
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: it was a side that was fitting a sitting just

957
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: above mid table. You're right, and so for him to

958
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: go there and play like he did is just like.

959
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: It was yeah, yeah, because because they do compare it

960
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: like obviously everyone says two thousand and five. Joey is

961
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: one of those performances. But the return of Alf is

962
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: when you when you google big Origin performances, that's right

963
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: up there as well.

964
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: Believable.

965
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be Arthur right and get me, I mean

966
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: like Arthur for Arson. I think everybody in the game

967
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: Arthur at thirty five. They said he came out of

968
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: reserve grade. He didn't come out of reserve greade. He

969
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: told us that ParaMed I said, if you go, you're

970
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: going back, and I think he went back into reserve. Great.

971
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: And then there's Joey obviously, you know, having knees and

972
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: not playing a lot and coming back and playing the

973
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: way he didn't, and then Olf as well, So you

974
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: know there's some but there's some great performances.

975
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: In Origin two thousand and one series. And they forgot

976
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 3: is one of the most iconic moments in Origin history

977
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: where you grab Brett Hotson and basically just ragged on him.

978
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: And now my question is did you have something against

979
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: Brett Hodson or just was he so easy to grab

980
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: and hurl out of the stadium.

981
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: Which I don't have anything. I wish it was somebody else.

982
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: And I say I wish it was Andrew Johnson would

983
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: throw that like an anchor. But I couldn't get him. No, yeah,

984
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. He just skipped on the outside and

985
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: when I and when I grabbed him, he must have

986
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: lost these feet. So we just got really light, really

987
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 2: light all of a sudden. What nine five kilos wasn't

988
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: too bad? Kettlebells?

989
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: I reckon.

990
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: We was he eighty max? It was made between seventy

991
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: five and eighty. He wasn't made. It wasn't one, but

992
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: but I wish it wasn't him. He won the Men

993
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: of Steel, the player that he was. I know that, Tommy,

994
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: Tommy Redonicus rang Wayne Bennet said, you guys need to

995
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: get this kid.

996
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

997
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Well, but we had Darren Locker at fullback and we

998
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: took Harvey how So when West folded the first time,

999
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: he tried to sell us Johnny scandalas Harvey Howard and

1000
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: he said, there's a young fullback here, mate, Wayne, He's

1001
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: going to be a really good player. And it was

1002
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: bred Hodds, wasn't he? Yeah?

1003
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: Great, plaint good And after that another iconic moment. There's

1004
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: lots of things said about like you know, what's truth

1005
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: and what's really and what's myth? Don't know? You point

1006
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: to the grand stand and just go off. That was

1007
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: the situation.

1008
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: That was the sign about my mum right right, So

1009
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: that was like and then Lottie and then well I

1010
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: don't blame Lotty because I did it, but like then

1011
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: we run out and then on my left side back

1012
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: ros so we run right over there and Lottie was

1013
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: the winger and he runs up. He goes, Brah, there's

1014
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: a sign up here about your mum. I said, what

1015
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: And it was the first time that my mom was

1016
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: in Sydney at a game, like an Origin game, so

1017
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: she was sitting with the families and my wife and that.

1018
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: So then I run out and I saw it and

1019
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: I went ah, right, and then we play the game.

1020
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: We play. In the seventy nine minute and fifty five seconds,

1021
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: it's like get to draw Dane carl Or pushes off

1022
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: Moody and runs forty meters to score in the corner. Yep,

1023
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: school's right in front of them. Right at the end

1024
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: of the game. If you don't score that, it don't happen.

1025
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: On the left side, I run over, the boys are

1026
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: celebrate and I see where the sign was. You boys

1027
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: can go jump in the lake. The camera, don't look

1028
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: at the bloke that scores it. They got me going

1029
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: a bit mad. And then that's the first night that

1030
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: I had a real problem with the journeys and Bulldog

1031
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: and all the boys were there. I said, you right,

1032
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: what you would I said, can you do me a favor?

1033
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: I said, I know I did the wrong thing. Right

1034
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: you would have done if there was a sign about

1035
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: your mum and she's there. And then they kept on

1036
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: talking about the editor and that, so I knew I

1037
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: was going to get stitched up. Wayne said, what happens

1038
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: to Wayne? This is wrong? Yeah, I said my mom.

1039
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: I said, I can take everything, but my family don't

1040
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: deserve that. And when he goes, oh.

1041
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: Sword, absolutely, I can't think anyone to think that.

1042
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: But at the time, when there's a great moment and

1043
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: it was just overshadowed with the media, like then they're like,

1044
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: then there are things that I wish that didn't happen.

1045
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: But it was part of me, you know. And that's

1046
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: the same as the send off I made. I like,

1047
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: as soon as I got in the dress room and

1048
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: I settled down, well, I was settled down by the

1049
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: end of the game. I had the rest of the

1050
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: game to think about it. But like I went and

1051
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: knocked on the door and said to hey, Bill, hopefully

1052
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: there's no hard feelings and I was wrong and he

1053
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: has made I accept your apology. Thanks, and then we

1054
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: walked out. You. I mean, so like, there's moments where

1055
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: I don't like it and I'm and I love Rugby League.

1056
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: I go there's the West Panthers across the road and

1057
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: Little Billy's going to start next year, and I want

1058
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: my kids to go out there and do the right thing.

1059
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: But there's moments that I'm not proud of. But it

1060
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: just happened.

1061
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: But they I don't think the and this is you

1062
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: know you guys.

1063
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: I didn't watch a lot of you play in that generation, Gordy,

1064
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: but I played with similar players who have that, who

1065
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: have that tendency of hot head. I don't think the

1066
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: good things happen without some of the bad things as well.

1067
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: That's that's what comes down to a little bit of

1068
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: their mentality. Like you like a blokester a little bit

1069
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: when they get on that field, there are different beats.

1070
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: Nature of the boost, mate, if you're had to poke

1071
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: me and Gordy, that was coming.

1072
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't poke the bear, sweet Gordon. What about your

1073
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: decision to retire, Gordy, how did that come?

1074
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, it was taken well. When I hurt my neck

1075
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two thousand and one, that was

1076
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: sort of it for me. It was like, you know

1077
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: the way like I tried to come back, I thought

1078
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 2: I could. I thought that it was just an injury,

1079
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: and it was the first serious injury, like I didn't

1080
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: have I didn't have knees. I dislocated the elbow a

1081
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: couple of times, but that was never going to hinder

1082
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: the way that I played. So to have that it

1083
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: was probably like like just a night losing the sword

1084
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: or something like. I just I was just worried about,

1085
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: you know, how hard I was going to hit because

1086
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: of you, because it's a serious injury and it was

1087
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: a neck. And I think Joey did the same, like

1088
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: when he got hit, and Nathan Brown, Jason Stevens, like

1089
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: all blokes that I know around my area, Like we

1090
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: all had the same problem. So I wanted to retire then,

1091
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: and Wayne sort of convinced me that I could play

1092
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: a different role. But I didn't like the role that

1093
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: I didn't I love the big explosive role that I

1094
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: was accustomed to. I didn't like you know, the you know,

1095
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: like the other role. So I was driving to the game.

1096
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful hot day. I drove past the

1097
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: Paddo tavern. I saw a heap of blokes out outside

1098
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: with the beer, and I thought, I'd rather be there,

1099
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm and that's and so I so,

1100
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: so I come to Grips where I was going to

1101
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: play a new role, though I didn't like it. I

1102
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: was going to play a new role. But then when

1103
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: I drove past, and I'm like, I'm out, like made

1104
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: on me out, like I for these it would have

1105
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: been the first time in my life that I didn't

1106
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: want to be in the dressing room, you know what

1107
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: I mean. Like, and I got distracted, like I very

1108
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: rarely got distracted from like what I had to do

1109
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: as a job, and I was getting distracted by the end.

1110
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: I remember we were playing a game. We're traveling across

1111
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: the spit Bridge, a newcastle, but going across and there

1112
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 3: were these yeah, there was a pub there and they

1113
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: had families laying rugs out in the park and having lunch.

1114
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: And I thought, my god, I know where I'd rather

1115
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: be walking to the pub, not having lunch with the family.

1116
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: That's but yeah, yeah, he's but that's just what happened.

1117
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: But like I was thirty, right and I had a career,

1118
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean like it wasn't as if I'm

1119
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: a Girell. You you the poor bugger and get cut

1120
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: down in your you know, when you're twenty one or

1121
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: twenty two or something, Were you okay?

1122
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: Like post retirement? I can't even say laughing. Fletch and HEINDI,

1123
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 3: were you blokes? Like, would you because you blokes play together?

1124
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 3: Would you consider yourself mates.

1125
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: With those blokes? I was jealous of Nathan high March

1126
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: because Wendel and the boys tease me that he was

1127
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: a much better player. So I used to judge myself

1128
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: on Heinde and I thought Fletch like the some back

1129
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: rollers that just had so much like he He could

1130
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: beat you with footwork. He was big. He throw the

1131
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: cutout ball and he was just such a big ball

1132
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: playing but he could go through the middle of the

1133
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: rock and like you'd fly out and hit Webby. So

1134
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: made you see the footage right, So there's no backwards

1135
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: like there's no reverse in either of them, right, and

1136
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: I reckon Nathan. I feel a bit sorry for him

1137
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: because Paramatta had lack of front rollers. Right. He was

1138
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: a he was an unbelievable edge player, sure, and then

1139
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: they turned him into a thirty tackle twenty and it's

1140
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: and it's rubbish because he was way better than that.

1141
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: It's boys. When he first came in, well, heind he

1142
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: was a really athletic, fast moving each back rower. And

1143
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: then they went and he had a great murder. But

1144
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 3: then they suddenly they said run him into the middle.

1145
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: And took over ye like a bit Bradley Clyde, Right,

1146
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: so badly Clyde when they had Lomas and those guys

1147
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: and he was on an edge, he was playing like

1148
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: a center a back rower and can float in and

1149
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: play front. Right. As soon as they got rid of those,

1150
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Bradley Clyde become the front rower of the locker. Yeah,

1151
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: and then that's what Nathan probably mirrored. Yeah, right, that's

1152
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: what was U I going to have it as a

1153
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: great player. Yeah.

1154
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: Another question on your show, because you know it sort

1155
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: of came from nowhere where it was you know, you yourself,

1156
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: Dad Fletchinghindy, what was your first memories of the first

1157
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 4: show you guys did together.

1158
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: The first memory, I pretty must have thought we were

1159
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: behind a desk were we do you.

1160
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: Know how long it's been good? It has been since

1161
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: two it's been to eleven. We have done now nearly

1162
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: fourteen years. It's it's you think about fourteen years of

1163
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 3: age and then you both you think about your life cube.

1164
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: How well are you in there? Twenty twenty five, twenty five?

1165
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: So for birthday again, it'd be like, okay, twenty five,

1166
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: you think about how like you're eleven years old? Yeah,

1167
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: like that's that's the span of time we've been together.

1168
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: So we've had many incarnations. Yeah, I can't remember. I

1169
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: can't run it last shar.

1170
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: I do remember the time when they make us do

1171
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: Friday night footy and talk seriously in like in like suits.

1172
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: That's the thing, and we took together, so who's playing?

1173
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: But we know and then Fletch would be making it

1174
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: up like one day, like Fletch was talking footy and

1175
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, God, that's not right. I might have to

1176
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: straighten this up a bit, I said, Fletch, because I

1177
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: must have called the game, I said, Fletch. That didn't

1178
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: sort of happen. Did you even watch the game? No,

1179
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: I was down the beach at two o'clock on a Sunday.

1180
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: Who would I be watching that? Rubbies? And then it

1181
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: all turned back on me. Then I'm sitting there like

1182
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: but like like the fun that we have, but like

1183
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: they all sit there and I've and I've never been

1184
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: on a show where we all actually generally really liked

1185
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: each other and had each other's back and like, and

1186
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: I just love Heindi and Made in the green room,

1187
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: we're talking footy and he's making sense and as soon

1188
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: as the glass come on, he sits and he just

1189
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: sits there and he freezes up and he gets the

1190
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: giggles at me.

1191
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: And I don't know when he gets the giggles, mate,

1192
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: I can see him like when they've got down, when

1193
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: they sit down like it aunt Gordy and they'll say

1194
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 3: to me, right, there's a serious bit of the show

1195
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: where something might have happened, and yeah, you want to

1196
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: give a cheerio to someone that's all very serious. As

1197
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: soon as I see it, I know, Okay, Maddie have

1198
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: tunnel vision, because I know on the left, I know

1199
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: he'll be going like you see, don't laugh at his

1200
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: funeral thing, and he'll be just like chuckling away, almost

1201
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 3: tears run down his cheeks. He's laughing.

1202
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: That heard. And then Laurie comes on into the t B.

1203
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: Fletcher's like touching him, like touching him, and then he

1204
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: starts laughing at him. And then poor Josh Reynolds come

1205
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: on and started doing it and heney look at me,

1206
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: and then we and then and it's not what Josh

1207
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: is saying, it's just HEINDI and because it's supposed to

1208
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: be serious and you've got anyway.

1209
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: I remember it used to wrap.

1210
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: I remember whenever the camera would go to Josh Reynolds,

1211
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: he'd always be rattled when he's doing he's doing the

1212
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: the end of the show, trying to do the Maltese

1213
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: and he's gone, oh, think everyone's laughing at him.

1214
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: I used to laugh him every day. I'm sorry, Josh,

1215
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: but it's not you. It's just his bloody heins in

1216
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: the tripping bloke too.

1217
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: He is Grubby's good man.

1218
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 4: I used to love when, like you said, when heini

1219
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 4: we get to get the giggles and the camera would

1220
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: go on him and he just almost finished wiping the

1221
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 4: tears out of his eyes and he'd have bloodshot eyes,

1222
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: and you guys would always make jokes that he'd been

1223
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 4: smoking cones.

1224
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 3: And he went to McDonald's one day till he goes, mate,

1225
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: he's got to stop with talk about the pot. And

1226
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: I said why He said, I walked him McDonald's the

1227
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: other day, he said, with the kids. And this bloke

1228
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: came up to me and just went, mate, I expected

1229
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: better from him. He goes what he talked to me,

1230
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: He goes, mate, or your drug smokeing and stuff like that,

1231
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 3: and his kids were going, Dad, do you smoke drugs?

1232
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 3: And he's going, no, I don't smoke drags.

1233
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: Like because like general because like my wife works as

1234
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: his corporate that We're sitting there and then he's going

1235
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: and flet how much was the rub this week? And

1236
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going like what And then they're laughing

1237
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: and I'm laughing, and then I'm laughing and then it's

1238
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: not funny. And then now gemy knows them. But in

1239
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: the early days, she would like lose.

1240
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: It, really said good out they are and two today.

1241
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: And then and then I just snowball and I'd go

1242
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: home and then and must have built up on it

1243
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: as well. You know, everybody always ass and you two

1244
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: still together and I'm like, oh my god, it's joking.

1245
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was, I remember there was that.

1246
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 4: There was a couple of years there where it was

1247
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: all Gordon goes to tie massage places and Gordon bleaches

1248
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: his anus.

1249
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: Mate, that joke got over.

1250
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: You so much, mate, Harley, mate, boy, he goes to

1251
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: school and there's either like a testicle or a bloke's

1252
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 2: ass is my like look alike photo? So everywhere I

1253
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: own now, so I've been chewback, I've been someone, I've

1254
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: been all these people like I'm not the raging bull,

1255
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: I'm chewy or now I'm like, I'm here, I've got

1256
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: a photo of you and like.

1257
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: You get whitey hole good who I don't know, I

1258
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I'll tell you what I'd hate to be that.

1259
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: I'd hate to have that ass three sixty Gordy. Yeah,

1260
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 3: and you're doing a great, great job on there, mate.

1261
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: Are you surprised by the politics of rugby league?

1262
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Well, I remember talking to Peter Beatty, like like the

1263
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: original commissioner and Monday he had as there's more politics

1264
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: than in politics, because you know he can and he

1265
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: bug it up with the Jersey when he said it's Barcelona. Yeah,

1266
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: and it's yeah, it's easy when you look at the

1267
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: corner of your eye. But yeah, I I just because

1268
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: everybody's rusted on. There's so much self interest in the game.

1269
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: And I laugh. I sit there and I laugh when

1270
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: it's about other clubs. But if someone bags the Titans

1271
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: where I'm at, now I saught. I get the ships right,

1272
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: So like it's funny that everybody laughs, and then Madge

1273
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: or whatever at origin time, everybody laughs or Billy until

1274
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: it's about them. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

1275
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: So now game's funny. And then you know, like and

1276
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: I sit on the plane and what about paramatter under

1277
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: the pump un till it's their club. Yeah, that's right.

1278
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: And then when it's their club, no one likes it.

1279
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: So there is politics, but there always will be. You

1280
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: just got to stay out of it. But the best politician,

1281
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: I tell you, the best politician in our games Wayne

1282
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: Bannett Barner.

1283
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, of course the best politicians you don't

1284
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: know they will and deal like on that, Gordy, because

1285
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: you know, with journalism, information is currency. Do you get

1286
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: amazed to the journey's phones never stop ringing because you've

1287
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: got football managers and you've got CEOs of clubs trying

1288
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: to get it favors well.

1289
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: In Brisbane and I you know, there was Sco Mylne,

1290
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: like there was about five or six that would come

1291
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: to training, so there was different ones that you could

1292
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: talk to. There'd be the rugby league week guy that

1293
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: would come, so there was about five or six you

1294
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: would know them. I didn't know whether their phones would ring.

1295
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: But now to be in Sydney watch someone like Buzz,

1296
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: So Buzz is obviously like he's a chief, right, he's

1297
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: the big one if he needs a story, just if

1298
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: we're getting in there and you know, the rundown comes

1299
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: down and hey, what's happening in a Panrith because I'll

1300
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: find out they pick up, they pick up. So, you know,

1301
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: I think the power of the media. I think there's

1302
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: that always been that love hate relationship. Now that I'm

1303
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: in it, you just realize that you're just talking to

1304
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: the fans and you know, do people want to know

1305
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: what's happening in at Paramatta and West Tigers and the

1306
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: Broncos or whatever's now? But yeah, but the power that

1307
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 2: they do have, and some clubs play the politics better

1308
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: than others.

1309
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: What do they say, you don't go to war against

1310
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 3: an organization that buys five hundred barrels an inch a day.

1311
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: Who said that I made it up. It is true

1312
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: as it is, and I was saying, they won't run out. Now,

1313
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: that's right, Gordon. Before we finish on, when I say,

1314
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: people always around this neck of the woods and they

1315
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: talk about it all the time down the beach club

1316
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: that one time we went down there, it's people say, oh,

1317
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, Gordon is scary us and make Gordon is

1318
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: the most social person in the world. I said, mate,

1319
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: he'll he's more likely to kill you with kindness than

1320
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: the aggression. Anything like that. But haven't said all that

1321
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: because you do go out sometimes. I imagine when you

1322
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: were younger, you get hassled to finish with tell us

1323
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: the story about you and Blocker on the Gold Coast

1324
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: when you're a young blake.

1325
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: We're on a trip away actually, and it happened so long.

1326
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: We're on a trip away rount the dragons, right, So

1327
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: we all go to the Gold Case. This is way

1328
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: before mobile phones, and there happened to be another footy

1329
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: club there, and then we'd started in Darwen. We went

1330
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: Darwin Canes Gold Case. So we're pretty much well done

1331
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: by the Gold Coast. But we had a few more

1332
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: days there and then I was one of the younger guys,

1333
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: but the younger guys always and Wendell say like, this

1334
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: is how big the broncos where Wendell and Willie Kahnt

1335
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: we're in this night club like judging a bikini contest,

1336
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: and because I knew him aware there and all the

1337
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: boys were packed. The pub was going mad. And then

1338
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: I think a few of our real young guys had

1339
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: a bit of a running with this other team. Then

1340
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: we go to the night club and as myself, Nathan Brown,

1341
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: Luke Felsch, Tony Grimaldi, we're sitting there having a beer.

1342
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: So we were sort of like the middle, middle of

1343
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: the range guys, and my sister was there and that,

1344
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: and then the other team, one of the guys comes

1345
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: up and goes, oh, mate, what about the Sheila Brown.

1346
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: He's trying to pick her up, pick up, and she'd

1347
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: a bit big. I said, that's my sister, so don't

1348
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: say that. But he didn't. I said, don't say that,

1349
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: so that's my sister right anyway, having a beer and

1350
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: then a few other boys come out. He because I

1351
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: don't say anything about oh love, you know, and he

1352
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: was it was a bit more cutting than that, and

1353
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it because my sister might listen.

1354
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: So I just turned and as I hit him my crunch.

1355
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: He goes down, and then all the bouncers come over

1356
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: and then we're into it right, and then all my

1357
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: numbered So Nathan Brown's he's in the cab rank getting

1358
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: the kebab. He's taken off because Brownie.

1359
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: Don't like that my confrontation.

1360
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: Luke feltel mate. He's getting joked out while the bounces

1361
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: Tiny Grimaldi because he's gone into sports medicine. He's rolled

1362
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: and on mountain numbers and were going mad. And then

1363
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: a bloke comes over from the bar and takes his

1364
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: watch off. His name was Blocker Roche. He goes, you're

1365
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: okay because I just heard what happened? Do you need

1366
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: pack up? And I didn't know and block this is

1367
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: like this is like like he's on TV. He would

1368
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: have just been retired, a big guy. And then since

1369
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: that day, Block to have someone jump on your back,

1370
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: and that's why with Kevy. Now, Kevy's not like when

1371
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: they talk about old boys. I'm I'm on Kevy's back

1372
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: because when I got divorce, I was home on Christmas

1373
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: Day all by myself and he wrings me and all

1374
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: my family had gone up to spend it with all

1375
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: my other family in towns and he goes, what are

1376
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: you doing? I said, I know, I'm home. I said,

1377
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: I get my boys back after Boxing Day. And he

1378
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: has none of my mates ever sit by themselves on

1379
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: Christmas Day. So he come over and spent two hours

1380
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: with me. Wow, that source. And he comes up over

1381
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: now and people go, oh, you look after Kevy for us, Like,

1382
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: it's not the it's not the footy plan. I don't

1383
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: care about the foot player. I care about the person

1384
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: that he was to me, and that's and that's and

1385
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: that's the person that I stick up for. I don't

1386
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: see like Kevy could be on the moon digging holes

1387
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: and he's under the pump and I'd always stick up

1388
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: for him. But yeah, but yeah, I shouldn't have done that.

1389
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: But I am kind these days. You are.

1390
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah you are, Gordon. That's fantastic, mate, loved it. Say

1391
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: you're a great friend, You're a great man. I'll say

1392
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: this to finish with Gordon, you have the greatest coal

1393
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 3: saw I've ever seen in your lift.

1394
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: My wife went away for five days and it's just

1395
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: it must have been the Brecky Creek on Sunday.

1396
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: Jack and I watched last night, kept kind of kept.

1397
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: I was trying to cover it because I had a

1398
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: bit of a saw and and I squeezed, and as

1399
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: you do, right, I just squeezed and it started bleeding.

1400
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 3: And I put every.

1401
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: Cream on him for the last three days and it's

1402
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: not going away. So yes, I do have the dream.

1403
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: We're in worse condition in Vegas when we're over there, mate,

1404
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1405
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: It's recovered dry lips from Vegas.

1406
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: The wind over there, isn't it.

1407
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: I remember looking at you Dad one day and you

1408
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: smiled and all your lips cracked and the blood just

1409
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 4: pulled down your chin like that dry.

1410
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: That was the first. That was the first time, like

1411
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: we got there and I don't know why. And then

1412
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: Maddie's wake up one day and I'm thinking, did you

1413
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: have red wine for breakfast? But like it wasn't.

1414
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: But it's just the blood, mate, some of the some

1415
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: of the most horrendous hangovers we had there. I was

1416
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: so crooked. One day, I jumped up. I said, I'm

1417
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: going to have to force myself to be sick. Mate,

1418
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: I was cook and you aren't. Gordon was in his room.

1419
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: I was in his room next door, and then like,

1420
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: we go down and wait for the car for our

1421
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: boss to come down, sitting there. Anything is he coming down?

1422
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not sure. I was the game say that.

1423
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: I think he's I don't know what's wrong with him.

1424
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: I think he's crooked. I think there's noises coming out

1425
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: of that room. I hear no, but like, but seriously,

1426
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: I could hear like.

1427
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: You got sick for about two days, yes, six now

1428
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: recovered by now. What happened was we're all chatting to

1429
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: the boys, were going, mate, what about these hangar is?

1430
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: What is it like the American beer? Or is it

1431
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: just the fact we're going really hard and have them

1432
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: double Vodkas for breakfast every day? It couldn't be that.

1433
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: But anyway, we end up running into a guy who

1434
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: we spent some time with before we left, and he

1435
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: came and saw us at the game in Vegas and said, right,

1436
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: which one of you guys gave me COVID? So yeah,

1437
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: so we must have we must have been all walking

1438
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: around totally in it. The fact that we had COVID.

1439
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even know this.

1440
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: Same guy.

1441
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: We don't imagine who it is. But he invited us

1442
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 3: over to his house and fifteen acres and belly, mind you,

1443
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: pretty decent joint.

1444
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: Probably probably we were all down.

1445
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we wandered in. Yeah, you know, Gordon was

1446
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: beyond the bit poor and Grog and I.

1447
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: Was so nice. Buses pretty successful.

1448
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: And then you know what we gave him. We gave

1449
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: him COVID.

1450
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, were a great welcome home gift.

1451
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: Thanks, good on your mate, Thanks Gordy

1452
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: H