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Speaker 1: Approache Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle comments and in this episode I speak to Matthew Floyd,

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Speaker 2: who went from vigilante justice to a rising star in boxing.

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Speaker 3: They are pedophiles, I guess, but they didn't do anything themselves.

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Speaker 3: They'll get us to make videos of us, like getting

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Speaker 3: married or whatever. Would have to go through it. That one,

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Speaker 3: from the day on was where I created this person

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Speaker 3: that wasn't scared of anything. You can go get this

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Speaker 3: head right now. You can't get in trouble for of

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Speaker 3: course I want to do it. The only reason I

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Speaker 3: stopped it because I went to prison. It was real,

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Speaker 3: bad man, it was real gruesome torture. Is I mentally tortured.

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Speaker 3: We'll just make them think they're going to die for

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Speaker 3: as long as we could, you know, you make them

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Speaker 3: bury though. Engrave and I went to Brison for a

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Speaker 3: few years and I got out at an almost earty

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Speaker 3: So I spent most of my twenties in prison. I

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Speaker 3: want to fight the best in the world in boxing,

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Speaker 3: and I want to provide to myself.

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Speaker 2: So matt thanks for coming on the podcast. I really

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Speaker 2: appreciate this. Let's start off by getting to know you

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Speaker 2: and growing up if you did he goes to school

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Speaker 2: and family wise, and yeah, just take it from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to school. I lived like with different

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Speaker 3: different places and things like that. Lived in some good

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Speaker 3: places and some bad places. I was all over the place, man,

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Speaker 3: I'll probably say it in over fucking fifty places.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Was there a good family life that you had or

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Speaker 2: was it? Was it before you went like you moved

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Speaker 2: around housing and all like that before you were ten?

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Speaker 1: What was it like growing up? Was it good or

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Speaker 1: was it bad?

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Speaker 3: I had some good, really good families men, some good

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Speaker 3: with him. I wasn't in somebody he wanted to dp

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Speaker 3: me and stuff. And he had a girlfriend that didn't

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Speaker 3: like you know, because I wasn't his son. So that's

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Speaker 3: sort of why. But yeah, I had There was some

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Speaker 3: I remember like quite you know a lot of good times.

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Speaker 3: Even with my mother she was quite sick. She would

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Speaker 3: have had me like all the time if she could have.

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Speaker 3: She loved me.

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Speaker 4: She was a sick man like she didn't.

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Speaker 3: So I had like lots of I was very close

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Speaker 3: it's not like all bad. It was just good and bad,

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Speaker 1: So what about what about school and did you actually

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Speaker 1: go to school? Did you not finish school at all?

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Speaker 3: It was hard to go to school because we're moving

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Speaker 3: In high school, I barely went to school in high school.

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Speaker 3: I actually had really good families look after me in

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I would have had better opportunities if I

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Speaker 4: But that was an I say.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want it, you know, like I desperately wanted

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Speaker 2: What about brothers and sisters, got any Yeah, I've got.

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Speaker 3: A brother and sister that I knew growing up for

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Speaker 3: my mum. But they're a lot older. They're like fifteen

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Speaker 3: But I have another sister that I just got in

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Speaker 3: raised by a complete different family. She had a normal upbringing. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: About when you reached the age of ten and you

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Speaker 3: I'll call them the pedophile family. And I actually got

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Speaker 3: And they are pedophiles, I guess. But they didn't do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was oldest kid there. I ran away. When

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Speaker 3: to say, oh, wasn't it. Yeah, But when you're a

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Speaker 3: So me running away, I actually felt like a cowd

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Speaker 3: I always looked for role models because I never had,

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Speaker 3: around the same time the pedophile family. They got done

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Speaker 3: And then I became this fighter that just wasn't scared

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Speaker 2: How did you cope with that second family that you

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Speaker 1: So how did you deal with that yourself?

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Speaker 4: Back when you're a kid, you don't really talk.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't really talk about it anyway, my mum

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Speaker 3: Really Like my thing is with the boys, like the teenagers,

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Speaker 4: Know, you'd see pictures in school of like.

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Speaker 2: Don't know when you when you say like you're in

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Speaker 3: I spoke to my mum and she used to get

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Speaker 2: Wow, So when you run away from the second family,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a family. It was just him on his

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Speaker 3: I ran from him. I ended up at my primary school.

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Speaker 3: I'd have my bars with me in my backpack. Back then,

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Speaker 4: I ended up in high school pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: And this is sort of when like I was, I

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Speaker 3: I hanged around the boys because of that reason, But

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Speaker 4: I wanted to fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what happened was when I was seven eighty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: obviously I didn't want her to have the same life

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Speaker 3: You obviously, you know, when you're training every day, you

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Speaker 3: and yeah, that's sort of how it happened. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: When I seen that you did stripping, I thought, fuck, like,

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Speaker 2: how were you doing that stripping? Like I look at

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Speaker 2: you as like someone like you, like you don't care

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is to you to get your

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Speaker 2: and it's like if any of the boys found out

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Speaker 2: why did you care or you didn't care at the time.

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Speaker 3: Now I ain't even fucking the boys. I probably told

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Speaker 3: it too, you know, like it's just fucking and I

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Speaker 3: You know, I was probably more prettier back then. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, man, Yeah, it's just it's not I don't

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Speaker 1: It wasn't but it wasn't your thing. You didn't enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I enjoyed it because the fact that it was

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Speaker 2: When I read this, it's like you're you're underground superhero.

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Speaker 2: The way you went around looking for pedophiles. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm taking the lord into my own

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Speaker 3: So people, yeah, obviously asked me this a bit, and

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Speaker 3: I always say, like they always said, you did this

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Speaker 4: I said, I just hate beophors, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it probably is because of of what happened and

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Speaker 4: I felt and and you know, I feel like a cow.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I as a teenager, I remember it

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Speaker 4: So I always had the idea there.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'd always even before the club, I thought, man,

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Speaker 4: And then when I.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you said to me, now, bro, you

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Speaker 3: can go get this fucking pedo now, you can't get

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Speaker 3: I've got that husson brain and we had you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, I had this real smart little it dude.

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Speaker 3: You know, this was before that time, bro, This is

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Speaker 3: like people do it for videos and that bro, we

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Speaker 3: I actually had a boy that got upset, but he goes, bro,

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Speaker 3: how can we never mention me in your fucking podcast?

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Speaker 3: So you know I got Petos, so you know, so

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Speaker 3: Rob Brigardo by the way, he gets through upset, and

437
00:16:53,961 --> 00:16:55,921
Speaker 3: I said, the reason I don't mention the boys is

438
00:16:55,961 --> 00:16:58,561
Speaker 3: because obviously for obvious reasons, you know, I don't know

439
00:16:58,561 --> 00:17:00,961
Speaker 3: if they want to be mentioned. And secondly, I wanted

440
00:17:01,001 --> 00:17:02,961
Speaker 3: to protect I wanted to protect them all. Then the

441
00:17:03,001 --> 00:17:05,681
Speaker 3: first one we got, it was real bad, man, It

442
00:17:05,721 --> 00:17:07,761
Speaker 3: was real gruesome. There was a few boys with me

443
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,801
Speaker 3: that were fucking a bit, you know, as you can imagine,

444
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,480
Speaker 3: not all there themselves, and it was real bad. And

445
00:17:13,481 --> 00:17:15,080
Speaker 3: I got real worried, broke, because if we've got a pinch,

446
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,761
Speaker 3: it would have been really bad. So I changed it

447
00:17:16,761 --> 00:17:18,881
Speaker 3: to when we got them, that would just fucking fuck

448
00:17:19,241 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 3: torture them as mentally torture, which I think is better anyway,

449
00:17:22,681 --> 00:17:24,960
Speaker 3: because it's the most you're going to get out of them,

450
00:17:24,961 --> 00:17:26,240
Speaker 3: you know, So you'd make them We'll just make them

451
00:17:26,281 --> 00:17:27,521
Speaker 3: think they're going to die for as long as.

452
00:17:27,441 --> 00:17:28,880
Speaker 4: We could, you know.

453
00:17:28,921 --> 00:17:30,880
Speaker 3: You'd make them bury though and grave, which takes fucking

454
00:17:30,921 --> 00:17:32,720
Speaker 3: sever wo how so that whole time they think, you know,

455
00:17:32,761 --> 00:17:34,281
Speaker 3: and then you just go right on with it, you know.

456
00:17:35,001 --> 00:17:38,600
Speaker 3: And we had this real smart guy before all that,

457
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,360
Speaker 3: and he pretended to be a kid, so people around us,

458
00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,720
Speaker 3: in the community or whatever you want to call it,

459
00:17:42,761 --> 00:17:44,401
Speaker 3: would know woo, and they wouldn't give you up because

460
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,160
Speaker 3: you'd have to be a piece of shit to fucking

461
00:17:46,721 --> 00:17:48,001
Speaker 3: keep you up doing that. And the would come to

462
00:17:48,041 --> 00:17:49,640
Speaker 3: us and we wouldn't just go get anyone because it

463
00:17:49,681 --> 00:17:51,880
Speaker 3: could be you know, someone's eat fucking boyfriend or saying,

464
00:17:51,961 --> 00:17:54,241
Speaker 3: we'd make sure have this guy that would ten years

465
00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:58,041
Speaker 3: a kid and would somehow start from And so there's

466
00:17:58,041 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 3: a good thing there is. Now we've got evidence against him.

467
00:18:00,041 --> 00:18:01,880
Speaker 3: So first of all, I protect the boys as much

468
00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 3: as I can, like battling up and all that, and

469
00:18:03,441 --> 00:18:05,841
Speaker 3: then we've got all this evidence aginst him now and

470
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,441
Speaker 3: then we don't break downs and legs, because they'll probably

471
00:18:08,481 --> 00:18:10,041
Speaker 3: still go to the cops even if you've got those

472
00:18:10,041 --> 00:18:12,321
Speaker 3: evidence on them. So you do the eventual talk and

473
00:18:12,441 --> 00:18:15,001
Speaker 3: usually or it worked. Obviously at worked. We've got you know,

474
00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:16,921
Speaker 3: we've got a couple of them, a few of them,

475
00:18:17,201 --> 00:18:18,880
Speaker 3: so we'd have all this evidence against.

476
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Them, and then yeah, how did you find them? How

477
00:18:21,441 --> 00:18:22,121
Speaker 1: would you find them?

478
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 3: Back then people people would come to us. But obviously

479
00:18:24,721 --> 00:18:26,001
Speaker 3: I was going out of my way. I was really

480
00:18:26,041 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 3: busy all the time. But I spent a lot of

481
00:18:27,481 --> 00:18:29,200
Speaker 3: my time on this because I had the club, I

482
00:18:29,201 --> 00:18:32,440
Speaker 3: had other things going on, and I guess in the

483
00:18:32,481 --> 00:18:34,161
Speaker 3: past it would be like if it had come along,

484
00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,961
Speaker 3: of course I'll get one. But you know, obviously I

485
00:18:36,001 --> 00:18:38,521
Speaker 3: went out of my way now and I had boys

486
00:18:38,561 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 3: going out of the way. I mean, I had things

487
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,480
Speaker 3: where even the one that I got done from the end,

488
00:18:42,481 --> 00:18:44,561
Speaker 3: I had money, you know, I'd put money on them

489
00:18:44,561 --> 00:18:46,001
Speaker 3: and things like that if they could find you know

490
00:18:46,041 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 3: what I mean, and we'll pay it, you know, like

491
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,001
Speaker 3: this guy at the end. There was a lot of

492
00:18:50,001 --> 00:18:52,161
Speaker 3: money you know, that I put out there.

493
00:18:52,561 --> 00:18:55,521
Speaker 2: So so what you do is you'd find with the

494
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,921
Speaker 2: under you'd kidnapped them, and then they thought.

495
00:18:59,761 --> 00:19:01,281
Speaker 3: They were meeting up with a kid each time, So

496
00:19:01,481 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 3: somehow get with them and they would think they're talking

497
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 3: to a kid, and then they would be That was

498
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,121
Speaker 3: the best way.

499
00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:06,961
Speaker 4: That's probably how we got.

500
00:19:07,001 --> 00:19:09,001
Speaker 3: There was other other ways. I mean, I remember we

501
00:19:09,041 --> 00:19:11,201
Speaker 3: got one by accident, man, like fucking the boys would

502
00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:13,360
Speaker 3: just at his house. He was working pipe, saying, one

503
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 3: of the boys boys from there now, and you know,

504
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,641
Speaker 3: so it was you know, the boys were doing other

505
00:19:17,681 --> 00:19:20,360
Speaker 3: things too, And then there was this was my my

506
00:19:20,521 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 3: main partices were old Like the boys rang about a

507
00:19:22,921 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 3: party or something, or they rang about this. I'd jump

508
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,481
Speaker 3: all over it, you know, And I was because I'm smart,

509
00:19:27,521 --> 00:19:30,561
Speaker 3: I'm very motivated. I fucking want to make sure things happen.

510
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 1: How long did you do this for?

511
00:19:33,241 --> 00:19:36,041
Speaker 3: Man? I feel like I was always doing it, but

512
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 3: realistically maybe like a year or something, I don't know.

513
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,521
Speaker 1: And how many do you reckon? You got in that year?

514
00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: We were quite a few, man, So what happens is

515
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 1: you got stitched up? You got how does that happen?

516
00:19:53,041 --> 00:19:55,401
Speaker 3: All? Right? So normally they look the same, right, they

517
00:19:55,441 --> 00:19:58,281
Speaker 3: normally have a look right. But this guy, this guy

518
00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:01,041
Speaker 3: was already registered pedophile. He was hanging out with the boys.

519
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 3: Actually I met him for a boy from another club

520
00:20:03,441 --> 00:20:07,801
Speaker 3: and he got done raping a tall girl girl three times.

521
00:20:08,201 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 3: So what's happening is the cops know about what I'm doing,

522
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,041
Speaker 3: but it's hard to get They couldn't get us right,

523
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,001
Speaker 3: and they thought we're doing other things, which I always

524
00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: say we weren't. Yeah, and they were trying to get us.

525
00:20:19,521 --> 00:20:22,761
Speaker 3: So they got this guy and they tell him, look,

526
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,961
Speaker 3: I had Harry's Jim back then, and we're taking you know, crims.

527
00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,561
Speaker 3: I said, fucking iever x Bot. We'll get him off

528
00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:31,961
Speaker 3: the street into this beauty. They had all beds there,

529
00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 3: had a gym, and we're trying to get him off

530
00:20:33,441 --> 00:20:34,321
Speaker 3: the drugs and boxing.

531
00:20:34,441 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 4: And it was also this gym.

532
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,361
Speaker 3: Also Danny Green was training there at the time with Azehider,

533
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 3: so it was a probably gym that people were training at,

534
00:20:41,721 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 3: actual fighters.

535
00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:43,321
Speaker 4: And also I did this.

536
00:20:43,721 --> 00:20:45,481
Speaker 3: I had I had bedrooms at the back of it,

537
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,441
Speaker 3: and I was taking them all into that. The corpus

538
00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:50,801
Speaker 3: just knew what he needed to do and say that.

539
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 3: So he come to the gym and said, look, man,

540
00:20:52,921 --> 00:20:54,441
Speaker 3: I need help. But I said all the right things

541
00:20:54,441 --> 00:20:56,521
Speaker 3: to me, So he ended up saying at the gym,

542
00:20:56,561 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 3: and for the next six months he became a mate.

543
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,761
Speaker 3: I didn't take him in. Actually I had a blow

544
00:21:01,801 --> 00:21:04,961
Speaker 3: called Simo. He just fucking passed away recently, Rest in peace.

545
00:21:05,201 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: He was a bit older than me. He done a

546
00:21:07,241 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 3: lot of prison. He was my go to guy because

547
00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 3: I was young. I'd always god him for advice. He

548
00:21:12,241 --> 00:21:14,361
Speaker 3: was a nominee, but he was He was the man,

549
00:21:14,561 --> 00:21:16,641
Speaker 3: you know. He knew his ship, and he had been

550
00:21:16,761 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 3: abused as a kid. He lived in homes and he

551
00:21:18,961 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 3: kept saying to me, he goes, bro, I'm fucking telling

552
00:21:20,681 --> 00:21:22,241
Speaker 3: you there's something off with this cumbro. He didn't to

553
00:21:22,241 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: get him at your gym, right, and I just didn't

554
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 3: listen because I was young. I liked the blow. He

555
00:21:26,241 --> 00:21:28,481
Speaker 3: made me laugh, and fucking if I feel sorry for someone,

556
00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm just because I got bullied so much as a kid.

557
00:21:31,001 --> 00:21:32,721
Speaker 3: I try to protect him, you know. And I liked

558
00:21:32,761 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 3: him to be fair man. I liked him more than

559
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 3: I liked most of my boys like that. You know.

560
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,561
Speaker 3: It was he got me a beauty. He was given

561
00:21:39,561 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 3: information the cops trying to get us for ship. You know,

562
00:21:41,681 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: we weren't doing anything, so they end up getting us

563
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,681
Speaker 3: for what we're doing. And what happened was they put

564
00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:49,961
Speaker 3: the pedophile papwork at my gym. One day, Simway rings

565
00:21:49,961 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: me up, he goes you with the guy and I

566
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: said yeah, and he get rid of him and come

567
00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:55,721
Speaker 3: to the gym. Now I've come there and I'm like,

568
00:21:55,761 --> 00:21:58,241
Speaker 3: who the fuck drop is paperwork off at the gym

569
00:21:58,321 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 3: And it was like, papwork, I've not him, been a

570
00:22:01,001 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: register pedoph already.

571
00:22:02,041 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 4: Just what he just his the fence now with the

572
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,441
Speaker 4: twelve year old girl and it's all it.

573
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,001
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's fake broad he can't be No,

574
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: it can't be real, you know. And then I fucking

575
00:22:08,961 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 3: rung him and he started talking to me with a

576
00:22:10,721 --> 00:22:13,401
Speaker 3: churn on the phone indicating he's like, I was by

577
00:22:13,441 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: myself with your fucking daughter, you know this and that

578
00:22:15,281 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: like my daughter was eight at the time. Just a

579
00:22:16,921 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: bad shit happened to know where, Man, he went from

580
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,561
Speaker 3: being this nice, funny fucking to this fuck and he

581
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,041
Speaker 3: just turned over the phone where it was like it

582
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 3: was the weirdest shit ever. Anyway, for the next several weeks,

583
00:22:26,681 --> 00:22:28,721
Speaker 3: I was just fucking I put money on him and

584
00:22:28,921 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: I was looking for this like I wouldn't you know.

585
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:33,561
Speaker 3: And yeah, and then when we got him, this operation

586
00:22:33,681 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: is called Blue Iris. We got him on a guy

587
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,761
Speaker 3: called see him Ro's house. He's passed away too now

588
00:22:39,321 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 3: and it was all cammered up, and it was called

589
00:22:41,441 --> 00:22:43,561
Speaker 3: Blue Ris's. Probably was all cammered up when I got there.

590
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,161
Speaker 3: And then that's how I got done. I got done

591
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,961
Speaker 3: for not letting him leave the room. This kind of

592
00:22:46,961 --> 00:22:49,241
Speaker 3: admitted to the fucking doing shit to his little sister

593
00:22:49,321 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: and all sorts of shit. And I wouldn't let him

594
00:22:51,801 --> 00:22:54,001
Speaker 3: leave the room. And yeah, I got done for kidnapper.

595
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,801
Speaker 3: And then yeah, pretty much, fucking a few other things

596
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,281
Speaker 3: got brought up. They tried to bring up a few

597
00:23:00,321 --> 00:23:02,001
Speaker 3: other ones that we got because he brought it all

598
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: up and tried to go he went crown witness and

599
00:23:03,921 --> 00:23:06,961
Speaker 3: all that is this right, not only that would have cost,

600
00:23:07,041 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: you know, fuck knows how much money that operation. I

601
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,641
Speaker 3: told the boys to stop. You know, we've done enough.

602
00:23:11,681 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: When I when I went to prison, you know, I

603
00:23:14,481 --> 00:23:16,241
Speaker 3: don't know it was six months later, a year later,

604
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: the boys because when it was on the news and stuff,

605
00:23:18,921 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: the boys people were following like vigilanti. They're doing the

606
00:23:21,721 --> 00:23:24,281
Speaker 3: same shit. Now this is why I can't fight in Perth,

607
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,321
Speaker 3: not because of my offense, It's because other people followed

608
00:23:28,001 --> 00:23:29,561
Speaker 3: and the coppers.

609
00:23:30,001 --> 00:23:30,681
Speaker 4: How's this right?

610
00:23:30,721 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: The coppers pretended to be a pedophile, so the boys.

611
00:23:34,561 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 4: Were still beteaming to be a kid. Like the idea.

612
00:23:36,961 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: It kept going on because it was such a great idea.

613
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: And then these boys went to cut in your park

614
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: in Perth and they were got done by the the

615
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: cops came was a full operation. So we paid the

616
00:23:47,561 --> 00:23:50,281
Speaker 3: fucking government right for the police. And that I measure

617
00:23:50,321 --> 00:23:51,801
Speaker 3: that the people knew that all their money was gone

618
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,481
Speaker 3: on the cops pretending to be pedophiles.

619
00:23:54,241 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: Wow with that? How long it was your stints in

620
00:23:56,441 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: jail for that?

621
00:23:57,681 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: Because I was who I was at the time, I

622
00:23:59,761 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 3: had to go straight to Dowe no ball. Normally anyone

623
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,281
Speaker 3: will get baald, you get bat and murder, but I

624
00:24:04,321 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: didn't get any and that ship because when you go

625
00:24:06,801 --> 00:24:09,561
Speaker 3: to jail normally you get like say, a few years

626
00:24:09,561 --> 00:24:11,001
Speaker 3: to get repaired. If you don't get repe you know,

627
00:24:11,001 --> 00:24:12,761
Speaker 3: it sucks up your whole life. And I went straight

628
00:24:12,801 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: to the prison for a few years, and then I

629
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,321
Speaker 3: got a five and a half a year sentence. So

630
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,041
Speaker 3: I'm on remain for a few years and then the

631
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,241
Speaker 3: five and a half year sentence and I got out

632
00:24:20,321 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 3: at fucking almost city. Wow. So I spent you know,

633
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: most my twenties in prison.

634
00:24:26,521 --> 00:24:28,001
Speaker 2: You know, when you're you know, when you were inside,

635
00:24:28,001 --> 00:24:29,801
Speaker 2: did you did you carry on what you were doing

636
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,041
Speaker 2: outside by looking for pedophiles inside the journal?

637
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,281
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no this or when I went to

638
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,841
Speaker 3: prison for it? But I hadn't because like I had,

639
00:24:36,921 --> 00:24:38,441
Speaker 3: you know, I've got kids, and I had a life

640
00:24:38,441 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: and things like that, and the whole thing's are very

641
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 3: hard subject because it's like, yeah, of course if I

642
00:24:43,681 --> 00:24:45,321
Speaker 3: could keep getting in my wood brow, but I did

643
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,561
Speaker 3: my time, now, you know. And you know the reason

644
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: I tell this story is because you just sort of

645
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,961
Speaker 3: want to, like, you know, raise awareness. I guess you know,

646
00:24:52,001 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: I would love everyone to wake up one day and

647
00:24:53,441 --> 00:24:56,281
Speaker 3: put a mask on and go with pedobro. But yeah,

648
00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:58,201
Speaker 3: there's a hard one, isn't it.

649
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,761
Speaker 2: Yeah it's very hard, very hard subject. So while you're inside,

650
00:25:02,281 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: did that make you want to change your life? When

651
00:25:04,521 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: you got out? Were you thinking about changing when you

652
00:25:07,201 --> 00:25:07,721
Speaker 2: were inside?

653
00:25:08,241 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: I just wanted to fight. I'd always train, I'd already

654
00:25:11,481 --> 00:25:13,521
Speaker 3: had like a few keep boxing fights. I was getting

655
00:25:13,561 --> 00:25:16,321
Speaker 3: ready for professional Like I said before, Angelo Hider and

656
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: Danny Green were at the gym and that was, you know,

657
00:25:18,281 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: obviously inspiring and we had a lot of good fighters.

658
00:25:20,281 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: And when this guy came along, in fact, I was

659
00:25:22,481 --> 00:25:25,601
Speaker 3: sort of getting away from it all. I was leaving

660
00:25:25,961 --> 00:25:28,401
Speaker 3: the club on good terms because I wanted to pursue

661
00:25:28,761 --> 00:25:32,041
Speaker 3: professional boxing. I was getting ready for fight and this guy,

662
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: because he set us up in that, That's how I

663
00:25:33,481 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: ended up getting done because I fought with my heart

664
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: and not with my head. That's how they got me.

665
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,241
Speaker 3: And then I really wanted to keep fighting. I want

666
00:25:39,241 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: to have that professional boxing fight now because it was

667
00:25:41,201 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: in my head and when I was in prison, that

668
00:25:43,521 --> 00:25:46,121
Speaker 3: was my main goal. And that's what I did. Man.

669
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,921
Speaker 3: I trained for hours and hours and hours. I run

670
00:25:48,001 --> 00:25:50,321
Speaker 3: the gym in there, I started a boxing program in there.

671
00:25:50,321 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: It's the first ever had a Casarina prison, and that

672
00:25:53,521 --> 00:25:55,121
Speaker 3: was just yeah, I was just on the phone age

673
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 3: I hired all the time, and you know, all I

674
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: want to do was fight when I got out, and

675
00:25:58,481 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: that's what I did where I got out, and all

676
00:25:59,761 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: I've done is for it.

677
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,481
Speaker 2: Before we move on to your boxing, and all like that,

678
00:26:04,281 --> 00:26:07,241
Speaker 2: is this true that you were on the Australia's wanted list.

679
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,761
Speaker 3: No, I thought that's bullshit, man, It's just bullshit. I

680
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: was in Queensland with my children. I had my Apple

681
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: iPhone in my shorts, and that they were like he

682
00:26:16,201 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: was trying to get away, like they're making out, like

683
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,241
Speaker 3: they had me at gunpoint fucking leaving the country. That's

684
00:26:20,241 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: all bullshit. But I was in service, fucking parwad of

685
00:26:22,281 --> 00:26:26,001
Speaker 3: us right because of an accusation. Someone got found with

686
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,241
Speaker 3: drugs and because he said to the police that he

687
00:26:28,321 --> 00:26:30,761
Speaker 3: was holding it for me. They had a warrant from

688
00:26:30,761 --> 00:26:33,321
Speaker 3: my arrest, so they already knew about this in Queensland.

689
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,041
Speaker 3: I already said to me, no problem, I will come

690
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,561
Speaker 3: in and I was willingly coming back to Perth. I've

691
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,521
Speaker 3: just been in the theme park, had my Apple wife

692
00:26:39,561 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: on me. It was in contact with them, was in

693
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: contact with the lawyers about fucking meeting with them, and

694
00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:45,521
Speaker 3: then they fucking.

695
00:26:45,201 --> 00:26:46,201
Speaker 4: They put all that on the news.

696
00:26:46,201 --> 00:26:48,201
Speaker 3: I had no footage of that because they just put

697
00:26:48,201 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: it on the news. I had footage of me at

698
00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: the airport with them, no footage of me fucking running

699
00:26:53,001 --> 00:26:55,481
Speaker 3: onto a fucking plane. Almost on my way out, Bro,

700
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,801
Speaker 3: I fucking walked up to him, Brough, I met up.

701
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,041
Speaker 3: I fucking caught up with them, handed myself in to

702
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,321
Speaker 3: come back to Perth. Bro. Wow. So but they put

703
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,001
Speaker 3: on the news it's all fucking bullsh. I wasn't the

704
00:27:04,041 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: most wanted broke with talk like I don't know how

705
00:27:06,481 --> 00:27:08,201
Speaker 3: much it was. It was like a kill like saying

706
00:27:08,281 --> 00:27:11,681
Speaker 3: fucking small, Bro. They just made it all big because

707
00:27:11,681 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: of who I am. Bro. It was fucking a small

708
00:27:13,441 --> 00:27:15,041
Speaker 3: amount which has been It.

709
00:27:14,961 --> 00:27:15,641
Speaker 4: Was just bullshit.

710
00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:15,881
Speaker 3: Bro.

711
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: That's what the media do, Bro, that's what the media do.

712
00:27:19,521 --> 00:27:20,641
Speaker 1: They love to spend bullshit.

713
00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:22,801
Speaker 2: So tell me about the starts of your when you

714
00:27:22,801 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: got out of jail and the start.

715
00:27:23,761 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Of your like getting pro and all like that. How

716
00:27:26,281 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: did you start all that off?

717
00:27:28,321 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: Mate? The Perth Commission right made it real hard for

718
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,481
Speaker 3: me because I was in prison. I was arguing that

719
00:27:34,801 --> 00:27:37,321
Speaker 3: I wasn't in prison for hurting anyone innocent, so you know,

720
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,961
Speaker 3: but they didn't let me fight for like three years

721
00:27:39,041 --> 00:27:41,481
Speaker 3: or some shit. And then when I finally could fight,

722
00:27:41,521 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: I had four fights. And then because it went on

723
00:27:44,921 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: the news and this and that, they stopped me from

724
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: fighting again because they said it looked bad for the

725
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,281
Speaker 3: sport whatever. So I was like, fuck, is I won't

726
00:27:51,281 --> 00:27:54,641
Speaker 3: fight perfectain, you know, So I went to back then,

727
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: I think maybe Adelaide or Queensland, and I fought in

728
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,321
Speaker 3: the other states before I fought in the other countries

729
00:27:59,321 --> 00:27:59,801
Speaker 3: and stuff.

730
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,681
Speaker 2: Wow, you still get like, even though that you could

731
00:28:03,681 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: be going back to Perth to fight in the future,

732
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,521
Speaker 2: do you get a hostile reception from the Perth government.

733
00:28:10,201 --> 00:28:11,921
Speaker 3: I don't really know, man. When I was in Perth,

734
00:28:12,001 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: it was just like at Metro City Nightclub and I

735
00:28:15,281 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: had a good crowd there that all my supporters and

736
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,761
Speaker 3: that I'm not really sure mate, I'll know if I fight.

737
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I should be fighting at rac Arena. I

738
00:28:22,481 --> 00:28:24,281
Speaker 3: never want to fight in Perth again. Not because of

739
00:28:24,321 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: the people. I'd love to fight in front of my

740
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: fans and the people in that. It was because of

741
00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: the whole horror of the whole Perth Commission and what

742
00:28:32,281 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: they put me through in that. But now obviously this

743
00:28:34,801 --> 00:28:37,121
Speaker 3: is a massive offer, it's a massive fight. It's sort

744
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,681
Speaker 3: of you know, it was a real hard you know,

745
00:28:38,761 --> 00:28:40,881
Speaker 3: do I do it? Because my morals didn't want to

746
00:28:40,881 --> 00:28:43,761
Speaker 3: do it. And then obviously I put thought into it

747
00:28:43,761 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: and decided yeah, I'll do it. And then when I

748
00:28:45,241 --> 00:28:47,001
Speaker 3: said yeah, you got the Perth Commission trying to stop

749
00:28:47,081 --> 00:28:50,121
Speaker 3: it again, so which is really wrong because who the

750
00:28:50,121 --> 00:28:51,641
Speaker 3: fucker lady is site in their chairs and stop a

751
00:28:51,641 --> 00:28:54,961
Speaker 3: man from making money for his family, you know? Correct?

752
00:28:55,321 --> 00:28:57,401
Speaker 2: So tell me about the fight that didn't go your

753
00:28:57,441 --> 00:28:59,641
Speaker 2: way because I read about it with the judges.

754
00:28:59,721 --> 00:29:01,081
Speaker 1: There was some scandal with the judges.

755
00:29:01,761 --> 00:29:03,761
Speaker 3: So I think I would have been what fourteen and

756
00:29:03,841 --> 00:29:06,001
Speaker 3: thirty and I fought Entilan had a fair bit and

757
00:29:06,041 --> 00:29:09,321
Speaker 3: their best like boxer fighter is a guy called Simon Coole.

758
00:29:09,361 --> 00:29:11,921
Speaker 4: He's ninety nine wins WBC World champion.

759
00:29:11,921 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: If I had a big story he got out of

760
00:29:13,721 --> 00:29:15,681
Speaker 3: prison from becoming a world champion because they do that

761
00:29:15,681 --> 00:29:17,801
Speaker 3: in Thailand. You can fight your way to prison, and

762
00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: he was he was like the first to do it.

763
00:29:19,481 --> 00:29:22,361
Speaker 3: So there's a story there. But he's a legend in Thailand.

764
00:29:22,721 --> 00:29:25,641
Speaker 3: His father he's like runs the commission or saying that

765
00:29:25,801 --> 00:29:27,921
Speaker 3: they judges and all sorts of they run their own gym,

766
00:29:27,961 --> 00:29:31,081
Speaker 3: they run their own fights. So anyway, I fought him

767
00:29:31,081 --> 00:29:33,841
Speaker 3: at Lupeni Stadium with one hand. He was a bit older.

768
00:29:33,881 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: Obviously.

769
00:29:34,281 --> 00:29:36,081
Speaker 3: I was at that point in my career where I

770
00:29:36,121 --> 00:29:38,321
Speaker 3: had to fight a next legend.

771
00:29:37,961 --> 00:29:39,601
Speaker 4: Who's a bit older. That's just where I was at.

772
00:29:39,601 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: I was at the fifteen fight pop point of my

773
00:29:41,481 --> 00:29:44,281
Speaker 3: career where you know, so that was him, great boxer

774
00:29:44,281 --> 00:29:46,601
Speaker 3: obviously and things like that. I thought him at Loopeni,

775
00:29:46,841 --> 00:29:49,161
Speaker 3: which is like, you know, the historical stadium in Thailand.

776
00:29:49,641 --> 00:29:51,961
Speaker 3: Everyone told me not to do it Angelo, you know,

777
00:29:52,041 --> 00:29:54,161
Speaker 3: and that were like, don't you're fucking crazy, You're mad.

778
00:29:54,241 --> 00:29:56,481
Speaker 3: You know, this guy's had five hundred fights in other

779
00:29:56,721 --> 00:29:59,241
Speaker 3: like being called kick box here, and he's never even

780
00:29:59,281 --> 00:29:59,681
Speaker 3: in training.

781
00:29:59,721 --> 00:30:00,601
Speaker 4: He's never been dropped.

782
00:30:00,681 --> 00:30:03,281
Speaker 3: He's like a got a mythical name like jade Head

783
00:30:03,521 --> 00:30:06,721
Speaker 3: because he's never ever been dropped. So they knew that

784
00:30:06,761 --> 00:30:08,641
Speaker 3: this would probably go all the way. I had no

785
00:30:08,721 --> 00:30:12,081
Speaker 3: right hand as well. It was a very weird fucking fight, man.

786
00:30:12,121 --> 00:30:14,081
Speaker 3: So the week before the fight was supposed to be

787
00:30:14,641 --> 00:30:18,481
Speaker 3: an Australian judge, a tire judge, and another judge from

788
00:30:18,481 --> 00:30:21,761
Speaker 3: somewhere else, and that changed day by fucking day where

789
00:30:21,841 --> 00:30:24,001
Speaker 3: end up being three tire judges, and then a day

790
00:30:24,041 --> 00:30:26,761
Speaker 3: before the fight, they said he has to be eighty

791
00:30:26,761 --> 00:30:28,681
Speaker 3: three kilos. He can't make seventy nine. This is for

792
00:30:28,721 --> 00:30:31,841
Speaker 3: a world title, a city world title, but a world title.

793
00:30:32,361 --> 00:30:33,601
Speaker 4: I thought, WBF.

794
00:30:33,681 --> 00:30:35,881
Speaker 3: I dodn't understand the different world titles. I thought, fuck ye,

795
00:30:35,881 --> 00:30:38,081
Speaker 3: it's a world titled. I didn't realize there's good ones

796
00:30:38,121 --> 00:30:40,681
Speaker 3: and shit ones. But anyway, So what happened was the

797
00:30:40,761 --> 00:30:43,081
Speaker 3: day before the fight, I was with Steven Wills. I

798
00:30:43,161 --> 00:30:45,081
Speaker 3: was with a guy for Poor Windsor, who runs like

799
00:30:45,201 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: one of the bigger gyms in Bangkok, the Box. You know.

800
00:30:47,961 --> 00:30:50,081
Speaker 3: He even said, he goes, I've been in Thailand ten years, bro,

801
00:30:50,121 --> 00:30:51,881
Speaker 3: I've seen some weird shit. Man, I've never seen it

802
00:30:51,961 --> 00:30:53,961
Speaker 3: this weird. So day before the fight, I was like,

803
00:30:53,961 --> 00:30:55,601
Speaker 3: all right, whatever eighty three. So I had to go

804
00:30:55,601 --> 00:30:57,961
Speaker 3: to the gym at five in the morning. I made

805
00:30:58,001 --> 00:31:01,161
Speaker 3: weight seventy nine and then he was eighty three. Showed

806
00:31:01,201 --> 00:31:03,281
Speaker 3: me I well a bit above. And then they've changed

807
00:31:03,281 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: the scales. The WBF come and they fucked it up.

808
00:31:06,521 --> 00:31:09,081
Speaker 3: They changed it like too much, so he dropped to

809
00:31:09,161 --> 00:31:11,841
Speaker 3: like seven kilos, which looks stupid. So you got the

810
00:31:11,881 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: promoter's assistant because the WBA for like, what's going on?

811
00:31:15,481 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: He can't be sad you know, and the guy go

812
00:31:16,881 --> 00:31:19,241
Speaker 3: he's like it okay, it's okay, and they've fucking stepped

813
00:31:19,241 --> 00:31:21,361
Speaker 3: on the scales while he's on the scales with their.

814
00:31:21,161 --> 00:31:23,441
Speaker 4: Foot and they've pushed up. See yeah it's okay, it's okay.

815
00:31:23,521 --> 00:31:26,601
Speaker 3: They pushed it up to like seventy six or seventy seven.

816
00:31:26,441 --> 00:31:28,641
Speaker 4: Or whatever, and then they're like it's okay. It's again.

817
00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:31,401
Speaker 3: They just looked at me it's okay, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever,

818
00:31:31,441 --> 00:31:32,081
Speaker 3: it's okay, you know.

819
00:31:32,761 --> 00:31:33,881
Speaker 4: And it was just fucking weird.

820
00:31:34,001 --> 00:31:36,281
Speaker 3: Everyone day by day was like, do not fucking fight

821
00:31:36,601 --> 00:31:39,401
Speaker 3: anyway they're supposed to be at this stage. It changed day,

822
00:31:39,401 --> 00:31:40,921
Speaker 3: but I think it was like an Aussie judge and

823
00:31:40,961 --> 00:31:43,241
Speaker 3: two high judges by now, and then when I got there,

824
00:31:43,321 --> 00:31:45,801
Speaker 3: it was just fucking three TI judges. Obviously if you

825
00:31:45,841 --> 00:31:47,361
Speaker 3: watched the fight. I don't know if you've watched that one.

826
00:31:47,401 --> 00:31:50,521
Speaker 3: Every round, like you've got these fights where they're close

827
00:31:50,601 --> 00:31:52,321
Speaker 3: and people can plain or there's a couple of rounds

828
00:31:52,321 --> 00:31:53,921
Speaker 3: in it, but this was like I won every single

829
00:31:53,961 --> 00:31:58,281
Speaker 3: fucking round and it's just yeah, and everyone knows it. Anyway.

830
00:31:58,361 --> 00:32:01,601
Speaker 3: I reviewed it straight away. They got five judges around

831
00:32:01,601 --> 00:32:04,601
Speaker 3: the World reviewed it said yeah, I am one unanimously,

832
00:32:04,801 --> 00:32:07,241
Speaker 3: but they could only change it to a no contest,

833
00:32:07,361 --> 00:32:10,361
Speaker 3: which I think is fucker bullshit. They changed it no contests,

834
00:32:10,801 --> 00:32:14,001
Speaker 3: but they've sent it to the review, to the tire commission.

835
00:32:14,041 --> 00:32:16,681
Speaker 3: Who's their family again, and they can just fucking sit

836
00:32:16,721 --> 00:32:18,121
Speaker 3: on it until the day I die. If they want,

837
00:32:18,161 --> 00:32:20,801
Speaker 3: they have to put it forward, but they can just say, oh, yeah,

838
00:32:20,801 --> 00:32:22,561
Speaker 3: we haven't checked it.

839
00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: They need to put in. They still haven't.

840
00:32:24,521 --> 00:32:26,841
Speaker 3: So I had a couple more fights and I ended

841
00:32:26,881 --> 00:32:28,281
Speaker 3: up fighting in Turkey. It was supposed to be for

842
00:32:28,321 --> 00:32:31,121
Speaker 3: a WBC Silver title, which is like the one before

843
00:32:31,321 --> 00:32:34,601
Speaker 3: WC World. I was fighting this guy from like an

844
00:32:34,601 --> 00:32:37,481
Speaker 3: African country. He was like seventeen wins and a couple

845
00:32:37,441 --> 00:32:40,121
Speaker 3: of losses or saying. And then a day before the fight,

846
00:32:40,481 --> 00:32:42,481
Speaker 3: they're like, it couldn't get him, but you can fight

847
00:32:42,521 --> 00:32:45,521
Speaker 3: Seramon Goal again because this Turkey is promoter was from

848
00:32:45,561 --> 00:32:47,641
Speaker 3: Ty and I said. At first I was like, no,

849
00:32:47,841 --> 00:32:50,041
Speaker 3: fuck that, and then I turned around. I said I

850
00:32:50,081 --> 00:32:52,681
Speaker 3: will fight him in one condition that his father or

851
00:32:52,721 --> 00:32:55,521
Speaker 3: the family. They honored the review and I've got it

852
00:32:55,561 --> 00:32:57,481
Speaker 3: all in fucking writing. I've still got it. And they

853
00:32:57,481 --> 00:33:00,281
Speaker 3: said yeah, okay, Bill, and also I want neutral judges,

854
00:33:00,281 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: you know, and whatever. And then so I ended up

855
00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: fighting him in Turkey and I beat him every round again,

856
00:33:05,321 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: I won the world title, another shitty one. And then

857
00:33:08,001 --> 00:33:09,561
Speaker 3: they still haven't fucking on the review. If you look

858
00:33:09,561 --> 00:33:12,121
Speaker 3: at box right, they still haven't fucking It's still fifteen

859
00:33:12,121 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: and fucking one, which I tell everyone I'm a fifteen

860
00:33:14,681 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm a six den no fighter because I am,

861
00:33:16,521 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: because I've got the review and it's like, I know

862
00:33:18,761 --> 00:33:20,601
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean much people like what you know, but

863
00:33:20,601 --> 00:33:22,561
Speaker 3: to me, obviously, yeah, I didn't.

864
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think they could sit on it for that

865
00:33:24,001 --> 00:33:25,681
Speaker 2: long viral, So they can sit on it for as

866
00:33:25,721 --> 00:33:26,361
Speaker 2: long as they want.

867
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:28,081
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'll work shit out.

868
00:33:28,121 --> 00:33:30,561
Speaker 3: I was like, I've spoken to managers, promoters, I know,

869
00:33:30,601 --> 00:33:32,721
Speaker 3: and they go manage because the fight happened in Thailand,

870
00:33:32,801 --> 00:33:33,281
Speaker 3: so it's.

871
00:33:33,081 --> 00:33:36,921
Speaker 4: Just it's all bullshit. But everything's all bullshit anyway, you know?

872
00:33:38,361 --> 00:33:39,761
Speaker 1: Does that put you off boxing a bit?

873
00:33:39,801 --> 00:33:42,561
Speaker 2: With but like it's in every sports, I guess, But

874
00:33:42,601 --> 00:33:44,281
Speaker 2: does it put you off knowing that if you go

875
00:33:44,321 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: to someone else's country or an opponent's country, you know

876
00:33:47,561 --> 00:33:48,721
Speaker 2: that this shit's gonna happen.

877
00:33:49,081 --> 00:33:50,881
Speaker 3: I can't really complain about it because I got told

878
00:33:50,881 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: with everyone ting I'm the creative of my own chaos.

879
00:33:52,721 --> 00:33:54,601
Speaker 3: So like people tell me, then I do something, and

880
00:33:54,601 --> 00:33:55,681
Speaker 3: then I get in trouble for it, and then I

881
00:33:55,681 --> 00:33:58,801
Speaker 3: complain about it, you know. So it's like I can

882
00:33:58,881 --> 00:34:00,761
Speaker 3: keep doing the professional boxing, which is what I wanted.

883
00:34:00,921 --> 00:34:01,841
Speaker 4: I was it's a hard way.

884
00:34:01,881 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: I was happy to keep going to other people's countries,

885
00:34:03,481 --> 00:34:05,481
Speaker 3: probably getting robbed, you know, I would have had to

886
00:34:05,521 --> 00:34:07,681
Speaker 3: have another ten more fights to fight, you know, the

887
00:34:07,721 --> 00:34:09,161
Speaker 3: best in the world, that which is what I want.

888
00:34:09,481 --> 00:34:13,201
Speaker 3: But this influenced boxing thing, it's happened by accident, and

889
00:34:13,281 --> 00:34:15,961
Speaker 3: now I fight a few influencers. I'll make a big name,

890
00:34:15,961 --> 00:34:17,281
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna fight the best in the world.

891
00:34:17,321 --> 00:34:19,521
Speaker 3: So not that I wasn't gonna happy to go down

892
00:34:19,521 --> 00:34:21,241
Speaker 3: the hard road, obviously I was. I was doing it,

893
00:34:21,441 --> 00:34:23,401
Speaker 3: but this is just you know, at my age, I

894
00:34:23,441 --> 00:34:24,921
Speaker 3: want to fight the best in the world. Now, not

895
00:34:25,041 --> 00:34:27,201
Speaker 3: in you know, because that would take another three or

896
00:34:27,201 --> 00:34:29,921
Speaker 3: four years the other room. So now hopefully I've to

897
00:34:29,961 --> 00:34:30,721
Speaker 3: do it over the next year.

898
00:34:30,761 --> 00:34:32,921
Speaker 1: Now, So tell me, tell me about Tommy Fury.

899
00:34:32,961 --> 00:34:35,241
Speaker 2: What's going on there because I've seen it call him

900
00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:37,641
Speaker 2: out well to me. To me, it looks like he's

901
00:34:37,641 --> 00:34:38,241
Speaker 2: fucking running.

902
00:34:39,241 --> 00:34:42,761
Speaker 3: So that happened by accident. Man, I've met people in Thailand.

903
00:34:42,801 --> 00:34:47,641
Speaker 3: I met Scouss in Thailand. I met guy called John Gillies. Yeah,

904
00:34:47,641 --> 00:34:50,841
Speaker 3: he's a great, great fucking man, well respected over there.

905
00:34:51,161 --> 00:34:54,321
Speaker 3: I was talking to him and then someone made like

906
00:34:54,361 --> 00:34:57,481
Speaker 3: a fan like post of me fighting Tommy Fury. So

907
00:34:57,521 --> 00:34:59,921
Speaker 3: this happened by accident. This is a few months ago,

908
00:35:00,361 --> 00:35:01,401
Speaker 3: and it had like.

909
00:35:01,441 --> 00:35:03,361
Speaker 4: Fucking you had a few million views.

910
00:35:03,761 --> 00:35:08,241
Speaker 3: And then obviously Darren Till Tommy fur eything happened where

911
00:35:09,081 --> 00:35:11,281
Speaker 3: he pulled out. So John Gillies is close to down.

912
00:35:11,361 --> 00:35:13,201
Speaker 3: He trained him as a kid, and John knows me

913
00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:14,801
Speaker 3: and he's asked me if I want to fight Darren

914
00:35:15,201 --> 00:35:17,961
Speaker 3: Because of the Tommy Fiery thing, that post went up

915
00:35:17,961 --> 00:35:22,241
Speaker 3: those negotiations where Mick Francis from Tasmin Fighters, he was

916
00:35:22,241 --> 00:35:23,281
Speaker 3: talking to Spencer.

917
00:35:23,001 --> 00:35:25,721
Speaker 4: Brown and that about Tommy and then they offered me.

918
00:35:25,761 --> 00:35:28,121
Speaker 3: Darren Til from that. So that's how it all started

919
00:35:28,161 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: for me. And then I didn't get the Darren fight

920
00:35:30,481 --> 00:35:32,001
Speaker 3: except that it was going to go through, and then

921
00:35:32,041 --> 00:35:34,321
Speaker 3: we became friends and then John got me over there

922
00:35:34,561 --> 00:35:38,201
Speaker 3: through one of one of Darren's managers actually, and then

923
00:35:38,601 --> 00:35:40,161
Speaker 3: so on. You know, that was months ago now and

924
00:35:40,161 --> 00:35:43,321
Speaker 3: then my story is obviously now that all that's happened

925
00:35:43,321 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: and misfits and this and that, now people are asking

926
00:35:46,001 --> 00:35:48,001
Speaker 3: about pot and that's sort of how my story goes.

927
00:35:48,481 --> 00:35:50,721
Speaker 3: People knew my story in Australia, but Australia don't really

928
00:35:50,801 --> 00:35:52,801
Speaker 3: like a good story, you know. But in the UK

929
00:35:52,881 --> 00:35:58,161
Speaker 3: they embrace it. Man, what a lot of people.

930
00:35:57,881 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: Can make your name for it, and then the UK

931
00:35:59,601 --> 00:36:01,641
Speaker 2: you can make your name bigger.

932
00:36:01,361 --> 00:36:04,521
Speaker 1: Than what it is. But by all these controversile stories

933
00:36:04,521 --> 00:36:05,041
Speaker 1: that you can have.

934
00:36:05,481 --> 00:36:07,921
Speaker 3: It's actually crazy because I'm living it at the moment. Man.

935
00:36:07,961 --> 00:36:09,561
Speaker 3: I've been here for you know, a couple of times

936
00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:11,161
Speaker 3: out of the last few months, in the UK and

937
00:36:11,241 --> 00:36:15,241
Speaker 3: Ireland and Scotland, and it's crazy, like it's not such

938
00:36:15,241 --> 00:36:16,321
Speaker 3: a bad feeling, you know either.

939
00:36:16,881 --> 00:36:18,761
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that Tommy ever get back to you about

940
00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:20,561
Speaker 2: trying to face him or did he not reply.

941
00:36:21,441 --> 00:36:24,121
Speaker 3: I've spoken to all the other people, but Tommy doesn't speak.

942
00:36:24,321 --> 00:36:26,201
Speaker 3: They're they're weird, man, they're weird ones. I don't speak,

943
00:36:26,241 --> 00:36:28,121
Speaker 3: you know, you don't really know what's going on. His

944
00:36:28,241 --> 00:36:30,681
Speaker 3: people were speaking of my people, I guess, and I

945
00:36:30,761 --> 00:36:32,401
Speaker 3: did what I was told, Like people told me off

946
00:36:32,401 --> 00:36:35,241
Speaker 3: from out and do this and that misfits you know,

947
00:36:35,281 --> 00:36:37,041
Speaker 3: the people who signed, and they all wanted to fight.

948
00:36:38,081 --> 00:36:39,561
Speaker 4: He is a weird character.

949
00:36:39,641 --> 00:36:41,401
Speaker 3: Man, You don't know what the fuck's going on, the

950
00:36:41,481 --> 00:36:44,761
Speaker 3: fact that he wasn't saying much, I thought like there

951
00:36:44,801 --> 00:36:46,481
Speaker 3: was a stage there where, like you know, he had

952
00:36:46,481 --> 00:36:48,761
Speaker 3: the son and the mirror and all media people like

953
00:36:48,801 --> 00:36:51,081
Speaker 3: hammering him about it, and the fact he wasn't saying no,

954
00:36:51,961 --> 00:36:53,721
Speaker 3: I thought, fuck, this cunt's going to take the fight,

955
00:36:53,801 --> 00:36:55,801
Speaker 3: because if you're getting hammered and you can't, like I

956
00:36:55,801 --> 00:36:57,961
Speaker 3: got told, he'd get a coffee and people would be,

957
00:36:58,081 --> 00:37:01,441
Speaker 3: you know, asking you find the Aussie, you'd think the fact,

958
00:37:01,521 --> 00:37:03,681
Speaker 3: you know, you'd say, eventually do it like a you

959
00:37:03,841 --> 00:37:06,081
Speaker 3: do something saying look I'm not you know a lot

960
00:37:06,121 --> 00:37:07,601
Speaker 3: of people probably call him out. He's not a door

961
00:37:07,641 --> 00:37:09,401
Speaker 3: for each person. But this was big man, Like this

962
00:37:09,441 --> 00:37:11,601
Speaker 3: was on every fucking news article, like he was getting hammd.

963
00:37:11,801 --> 00:37:13,361
Speaker 3: You thought it got to be like, look, it's not happening.

964
00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,441
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't bro so and the people also

965
00:37:15,521 --> 00:37:17,601
Speaker 3: going to were like just leave it. I wanted to

966
00:37:17,601 --> 00:37:19,321
Speaker 3: fight other people because it was like I was just

967
00:37:19,361 --> 00:37:21,801
Speaker 3: can't be bothered fucking And now I don't really give

968
00:37:21,801 --> 00:37:23,721
Speaker 3: a fuck if he fights me not because now it's

969
00:37:23,721 --> 00:37:25,641
Speaker 3: like I'm getting off of big fights now, bigger than

970
00:37:25,721 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: him to me. Now, like he just thought, fucking the shit,

971
00:37:28,841 --> 00:37:30,881
Speaker 3: he's got a bad name here, man. No one's didn't

972
00:37:30,881 --> 00:37:33,841
Speaker 3: seen the fighters that bad. Now, that probably would have

973
00:37:33,841 --> 00:37:35,321
Speaker 3: cost him money, wouldn't have made money off of that.

974
00:37:35,401 --> 00:37:38,321
Speaker 3: So now it's like I'm fighting on misfits. I'm fighting

975
00:37:38,321 --> 00:37:40,401
Speaker 3: at O two. You know I'm fighting. I'm probably gonna

976
00:37:40,401 --> 00:37:43,281
Speaker 3: headline RC. Now it's like fucking he's gonna have to

977
00:37:43,321 --> 00:37:45,041
Speaker 3: want to fight, you know, that's he's gonna be lucky.

978
00:37:45,081 --> 00:37:47,401
Speaker 3: I'm a fiftheen no fighter, Like That's how I look

979
00:37:47,441 --> 00:37:48,281
Speaker 3: at it.

980
00:37:48,361 --> 00:37:50,361
Speaker 1: So because he used to be a sparting partner for

981
00:37:50,961 --> 00:37:51,561
Speaker 1: Lucas Brown.

982
00:37:51,641 --> 00:37:54,201
Speaker 3: Yet Lucas is a good friend of mine. He used

983
00:37:54,201 --> 00:37:56,721
Speaker 3: to help run my gym, and you know, we don't

984
00:37:56,801 --> 00:37:57,641
Speaker 3: in Western Australia.

985
00:37:57,681 --> 00:37:59,921
Speaker 4: It's hard to get sparring. And he's obviously one.

986
00:37:59,841 --> 00:38:03,001
Speaker 3: Hundred and fucking twenty three heavyweight world champion and I'm

987
00:38:03,001 --> 00:38:04,801
Speaker 3: an eighty kilo fighter, but yeah, we did. Man, there

988
00:38:04,881 --> 00:38:07,201
Speaker 3: was I was his only sparring partner. I think I

989
00:38:07,241 --> 00:38:09,921
Speaker 3: was his only smarting partner for a few of his fights,

990
00:38:10,521 --> 00:38:12,801
Speaker 3: and he was my my sparing partner. So you know,

991
00:38:12,881 --> 00:38:15,641
Speaker 3: we've done thousands of rounds. Very good friend of mine.

992
00:38:15,641 --> 00:38:17,681
Speaker 3: We still speak all the time. He is going to

993
00:38:17,681 --> 00:38:20,561
Speaker 3: be doing the band knuckle, hopefully the same night as me,

994
00:38:21,001 --> 00:38:23,921
Speaker 3: and he'll be great because we've never fought. We've been

995
00:38:23,961 --> 00:38:25,841
Speaker 3: at each other's fights a lot of each other's fights,

996
00:38:25,841 --> 00:38:27,481
Speaker 3: but we've never fought together on the same night.

997
00:38:27,561 --> 00:38:30,001
Speaker 1: So tell me about your future fights.

998
00:38:30,041 --> 00:38:32,921
Speaker 2: So you're going to go into a new band knuckles

999
00:38:32,961 --> 00:38:35,241
Speaker 2: thing now for you out out of boxing, but you're

1000
00:38:35,241 --> 00:38:36,641
Speaker 2: still going to keep doing boxing, correct.

1001
00:38:37,441 --> 00:38:40,241
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm probably a better bandknuckle fighter. I probably

1002
00:38:40,241 --> 00:38:42,081
Speaker 3: will be better ban knuckle fighter than boxer because of

1003
00:38:42,081 --> 00:38:44,201
Speaker 3: all the street fighting. I still when you watch me box,

1004
00:38:44,401 --> 00:38:46,561
Speaker 3: you know people watching and it looks weird and awkward.

1005
00:38:46,881 --> 00:38:49,161
Speaker 3: It's because of the streets, you know, and things like that.

1006
00:38:49,481 --> 00:38:52,641
Speaker 3: But my goal was to become the best at boxing,

1007
00:38:52,681 --> 00:38:55,881
Speaker 3: and I'm very stubborn and gold driven. So I'm only

1008
00:38:55,921 --> 00:38:58,241
Speaker 3: doing the band knuckle because it's a big opportunity and

1009
00:38:58,281 --> 00:39:00,601
Speaker 3: it will get me what I want in boxing, So

1010
00:39:01,001 --> 00:39:04,241
Speaker 3: hopefully it's the only one, because I want to fight

1011
00:39:04,281 --> 00:39:05,001
Speaker 3: the best or in box.

1012
00:39:05,321 --> 00:39:07,001
Speaker 4: Maybe after that I'll go back to the bout.

1013
00:39:07,041 --> 00:39:09,361
Speaker 3: I don't know. If it wasn't this fight and the

1014
00:39:09,441 --> 00:39:11,361
Speaker 3: offer that it is and and where it is and things,

1015
00:39:11,401 --> 00:39:14,161
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be doing it. So I will be going

1016
00:39:14,201 --> 00:39:16,321
Speaker 3: straight to boxing a week later. I mean, I'm fighting

1017
00:39:16,361 --> 00:39:18,001
Speaker 3: at O two, like the biggest, one of the biggest

1018
00:39:18,041 --> 00:39:20,201
Speaker 3: rounders in the world, a week later in a boxing match.

1019
00:39:21,281 --> 00:39:23,241
Speaker 2: So so tell me about your opponents and the band knockle.

1020
00:39:23,401 --> 00:39:25,681
Speaker 2: Has that been a rain shit or it's all sort.

1021
00:39:25,561 --> 00:39:28,761
Speaker 3: Of yes, yes, Aaron Timers. Is that Georgie Shaw, guy

1022
00:39:28,801 --> 00:39:31,841
Speaker 3: Fort Floyd Maywether? You know that was obviously to me

1023
00:39:31,961 --> 00:39:34,601
Speaker 3: and and things like that, and all the boys here

1024
00:39:34,641 --> 00:39:36,921
Speaker 3: where I'm sparring on them and that. Everyone said I'm

1025
00:39:36,921 --> 00:39:38,721
Speaker 3: going to smash them, and I'm going to smash them,

1026
00:39:38,761 --> 00:39:41,801
Speaker 3: and it's just the money fight. It's at home. It's

1027
00:39:41,841 --> 00:39:44,001
Speaker 3: going to do what I want for boxing, I think.

1028
00:39:44,281 --> 00:39:46,961
Speaker 2: And you'll pursue that after it too for a second

1029
00:39:46,961 --> 00:39:47,721
Speaker 2: face and third fight.

1030
00:39:47,841 --> 00:39:50,561
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm only going to be boxing after this

1031
00:39:50,641 --> 00:39:53,401
Speaker 3: fight and then and then if I mean, if I

1032
00:39:53,441 --> 00:39:56,201
Speaker 3: get offered something crazy again, I'll do it. Obviously I'm

1033
00:39:56,201 --> 00:39:56,961
Speaker 3: a fighter.

1034
00:39:57,681 --> 00:40:01,441
Speaker 1: But I want you want to concentrate on boxing, on boxing. Yeah,

1035
00:40:01,521 --> 00:40:03,241
Speaker 1: so tell me about your your next fight in boxing?

1036
00:40:03,281 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Who's that against in the UK?

1037
00:40:05,201 --> 00:40:08,081
Speaker 3: I'm fighting this X Factor he's had, like I don't know,

1038
00:40:08,081 --> 00:40:09,961
Speaker 3: he made the finals an X Factor. He made his

1039
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:13,361
Speaker 3: name big from that a few years ago, and now

1040
00:40:13,401 --> 00:40:15,721
Speaker 3: he's boxing. He's fought I think seven people, he's knocked

1041
00:40:15,721 --> 00:40:19,201
Speaker 3: them all out. But they're all influencers. I know that

1042
00:40:19,281 --> 00:40:20,961
Speaker 3: it's going to be an easy fight, but that's just

1043
00:40:20,961 --> 00:40:23,601
Speaker 3: what the influence boxing is. And I'm not going to

1044
00:40:23,641 --> 00:40:25,761
Speaker 3: be taking it easy because he's you know, because of that.

1045
00:40:25,841 --> 00:40:28,801
Speaker 3: So they fight six days after my banduck will fight

1046
00:40:29,321 --> 00:40:30,681
Speaker 3: and I'm not worried, and it's going to be a

1047
00:40:31,081 --> 00:40:33,121
Speaker 3: three day fucking flight, this and that. But it doesn't

1048
00:40:33,121 --> 00:40:36,481
Speaker 3: matter because he hasn't he's been boxing for a few years,

1049
00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:37,881
Speaker 3: but he's not well, you know, he's not.

1050
00:40:38,321 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's what's your what's your main goal?

1051
00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:40,681
Speaker 3: Then?

1052
00:40:40,881 --> 00:40:42,521
Speaker 2: Like, what what's your what you want to achieve in

1053
00:40:42,561 --> 00:40:45,721
Speaker 2: the next two years? Say, let's give a two year goal.

1054
00:40:45,841 --> 00:40:47,081
Speaker 2: What what's the what's you want to go?

1055
00:40:47,601 --> 00:40:49,081
Speaker 3: I want to fight the best in the world, man.

1056
00:40:49,121 --> 00:40:51,321
Speaker 3: I want to fight, whether it's Canelo or someone like that.

1057
00:40:51,361 --> 00:40:53,001
Speaker 3: I want to fight the best in the world in boxing,

1058
00:40:53,001 --> 00:40:54,361
Speaker 3: and I want to approve it to myself.

1059
00:40:55,441 --> 00:40:56,601
Speaker 1: Any regrets.

1060
00:40:57,721 --> 00:41:02,761
Speaker 3: In life, I tell I tell people not to have

1061
00:41:02,801 --> 00:41:05,361
Speaker 3: any regrets, so I can't really say I have any regrets.

1062
00:41:05,761 --> 00:41:09,001
Speaker 3: I try not to have any regrets. What you asked before,

1063
00:41:09,001 --> 00:41:11,841
Speaker 3: I'll touch on that. I am doing the influence boxing

1064
00:41:11,961 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: also because my number one reason is because I fight

1065
00:41:16,521 --> 00:41:18,321
Speaker 3: a lot for men's mental health. Because I was in

1066
00:41:19,121 --> 00:41:22,761
Speaker 3: juvenile in out of prison abuse. I think I touched

1067
00:41:22,761 --> 00:41:25,201
Speaker 3: on man's mental health. I feel like I'm shown you know,

1068
00:41:25,441 --> 00:41:28,881
Speaker 3: kids that say they've got abuse, or in juvenile, in prison,

1069
00:41:28,961 --> 00:41:31,081
Speaker 3: or yeah, even someone that's in jail right now that's

1070
00:41:31,081 --> 00:41:34,081
Speaker 3: twenty five. I feel like I can show I touched

1071
00:41:34,081 --> 00:41:35,481
Speaker 3: on all of it. I show all them that this

1072
00:41:35,601 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: can be done because I remember sitting in that cell

1073
00:41:38,281 --> 00:41:39,921
Speaker 3: and everyone telling me I couldn't do it, you know,

1074
00:41:39,961 --> 00:41:42,241
Speaker 3: and things like that, and I want all these people.

1075
00:41:42,281 --> 00:41:44,321
Speaker 3: I feel like it's very important. So that's my number

1076
00:41:44,361 --> 00:41:46,681
Speaker 3: one reason. That's why I'm doing the Influence Boxing because

1077
00:41:46,681 --> 00:41:49,041
Speaker 3: I'm reaching that platform. I'm out of reach and talk

1078
00:41:49,041 --> 00:41:51,201
Speaker 3: about it. I'm od to talk to you about what

1079
00:41:51,281 --> 00:41:53,041
Speaker 3: I just talked about before. I can do all them

1080
00:41:53,081 --> 00:41:55,481
Speaker 3: things now on the Influence platform, but myself, So that's

1081
00:41:55,561 --> 00:41:58,161
Speaker 3: number one my selfish reasons for myself is I want

1082
00:41:58,161 --> 00:42:00,201
Speaker 3: to fight the best in the world for myself, you know.

1083
00:42:00,681 --> 00:42:02,601
Speaker 3: So that's yeah, that's pretty much it.

1084
00:42:03,761 --> 00:42:05,721
Speaker 1: So you're going to be located in UK, you reckon

1085
00:42:05,801 --> 00:42:06,961
Speaker 1: for all your fights.

1086
00:42:06,721 --> 00:42:10,921
Speaker 3: Now it's looking that way. I'm in crumbling at the moment.

1087
00:42:11,161 --> 00:42:14,881
Speaker 3: Training with Philip Starcliffe, who looked after a lot of

1088
00:42:14,921 --> 00:42:17,681
Speaker 3: you know, big names, obviously looked after ECONOMC Gregor and

1089
00:42:18,321 --> 00:42:21,001
Speaker 3: is great here man. My mom's from Ireland, she was

1090
00:42:21,001 --> 00:42:23,081
Speaker 3: born here. I've met family here. I've spent a lot

1091
00:42:23,081 --> 00:42:25,721
Speaker 3: of time in the UK and here now and I

1092
00:42:25,801 --> 00:42:29,041
Speaker 3: just feel at home. Phil has been looking after me.

1093
00:42:29,601 --> 00:42:32,081
Speaker 3: I have to come home now just to fucking sit

1094
00:42:32,161 --> 00:42:34,121
Speaker 3: in front of the PERF Commission so they can sit

1095
00:42:34,201 --> 00:42:36,041
Speaker 3: in their curls chairs and tell me whether I'm allowed

1096
00:42:36,041 --> 00:42:38,361
Speaker 3: to make money or not. And then I'm going to

1097
00:42:38,401 --> 00:42:40,681
Speaker 3: come back again, come back to Perth fight and go

1098
00:42:40,681 --> 00:42:42,841
Speaker 3: straight to London and fight and then keep going like that.

1099
00:42:42,881 --> 00:42:44,601
Speaker 4: But yeah, most of my training will be over here.

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Speaker 2: Well before we go, can you describe yourself to me

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00:42:48,961 --> 00:42:51,441
Speaker 2: in one or two words? What you think of yourself?

1102
00:42:51,481 --> 00:42:53,881
Speaker 2: And like, what would you describe yourself in one word

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00:42:53,961 --> 00:42:54,441
Speaker 2: or two.

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00:42:56,441 --> 00:42:58,361
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I'm just trying to do the

1105
00:42:58,361 --> 00:42:58,921
Speaker 4: best I can.

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00:42:59,001 --> 00:43:06,601
Speaker 2: Man say, you're a survivor, a survivor, I'm RESI yeah, yeah, reason,

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00:43:07,081 --> 00:43:08,041
Speaker 2: that's a good that's a good one.

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00:43:08,041 --> 00:43:08,641
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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00:43:08,721 --> 00:43:09,881
Speaker 2: Well, I want to I want I want to say

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Speaker 2: thank you Matt for coming on. It's been an interesting

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00:43:12,521 --> 00:43:15,321
Speaker 2: journey of yours and a very interesting story, and you've

1112
00:43:15,321 --> 00:43:17,241
Speaker 2: come through it and now you're going to shine in

1113
00:43:17,281 --> 00:43:20,401
Speaker 2: the next couple of years and hopefully become a title holder.

1114
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Speaker 2: So I wish you all the best, and I hope

1115
00:43:23,401 --> 00:43:25,961
Speaker 2: to keep in touch and I'll help promote you whatever

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00:43:26,041 --> 00:43:27,761
Speaker 2: way I can from this part of the world.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, no person of all, thanks having me many h

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Speaker 2: Hm