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Speaker 1: A little bit later this week, but we are back

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Speaker 1: in the lair for the Round fourteen episode of the

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Speaker 1: Phantoms Layer podcast. This is the Phantom speaking. I said

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Speaker 1: we're a bit later, but doesn't mean it's not a

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Speaker 1: big show. I've got some big names, and I think

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Speaker 1: we need to start with a guy that's really making

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Speaker 1: reasons which we'll get to a little bit later, someone

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Speaker 1: else five Names Now be made to bide his time

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Speaker 1: in the reserves, opportunities here and there over the past

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Speaker 1: Simmyon Thomas Wilson, the fans are loving your work. You're

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Speaker 1: back on the lair.

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Speaker 2: Hello, fandom, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: During the week on x at bod sc will be

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Speaker 1: a five Names berner. We're not sure phantoms Lairer this

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Speaker 1: week is five Names Simeon and Thomas will having a

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Speaker 1: breakout year, break news on sweite now Dawson and a

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Speaker 2: I think he's right. I think we're in the midst

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Speaker 1: He didn't mention will Day either, that.

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Speaker 2: Was that's our age. Nicely, I just saw he's only

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Speaker 1: Yeap, very good. Good to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 1: Another one we're happy to have back here on the

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Speaker 1: phantoms there the Bear Lair Bear Turius, who's been following

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Speaker 1: the advice obviously in Thomas Wilson and capitalizing on that

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Speaker 3: Good fans, YEAP, honored and surprised. I must say, to

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Speaker 1: Well, we had to late call up for you because

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Speaker 4: Dossy, You're welcome, Yeah, thanks, thanks so much. So glad

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Speaker 4: Did think and was going to be him, mister super

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Speaker 4: But yes, I was robbed this week, which we'll get

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Speaker 1: Nothing saving mister Supercoach's score on the weekend though. It's levels.

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Speaker 4: How'd you do it?

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Speaker 2: I scored two thousand and one hundred and twenty two.

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Speaker 1: You're on my site's fanom and you called it. You

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Speaker 1: Great team name, isn't it it is great bear you

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Speaker 1: Just what happened on the weekend between you and Dossie.

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Speaker 3: So twenty nineteen for me this week and Sim talks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is my grand final, whole life.

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Speaker 3: Tires of Premier went head to head with the Dossi,

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Speaker 4: But we always talk about it's about who's playing, and

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Speaker 1: Trading tom Power this week, get your top end premium.

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Speaker 1: you won't be alone just quickly. Calton, Essendon, Geelong, Gold Coast, Melbourne,

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Speaker 1: not the buyer guru. Yep, that's five names. We know

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Speaker 1: Rumors, Yeah, Names, you were down at West Lakes. What

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Speaker 2: I've brought in Billy Dowly one of them?

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Speaker 3: Just te believe it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like our man Billy Dowling friend

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Speaker 1: We hope he does get another run. But he and

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Speaker 1: Ari Shoe and Maker as well on the bike both

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Speaker 1: When is Brodie Meyerchek come back? How far is Mason

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Speaker 2: They're going to be pretty conservative with cot still, so

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Speaker 2: it seems like he's got a little bit of job

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think North Melbourne this week as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Krueger thing working in his favor and they

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Speaker 2: He's obviously pretty injury pro injuries are part and parcel

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Speaker 1: Now we speak about those targets you're going on, Liam Ryan,

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Speaker 3: A lot for Luke Ryan and.

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Speaker 2: What are your hipster in twenty twenty one or something?

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Speaker 2: He tried to join with Liam, right.

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Speaker 1: He did, That's true. Jordan Clark's well defensive teammate five

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Speaker 4: Just another talking point, I guess for because there's a

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Speaker 4: probably assume it's going to go to Neil, who's been

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Speaker 4: what is your opinion, fans on just targeting guys like this?

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Speaker 4: Does it matter? I think as as five names mentioned before,

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Speaker 4: the rest of the season. We're bringing him in to

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Speaker 4: make our team better overall. Do we just ignore break

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, if you've got the money to do it,

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Speaker 1: the break even danes Orco against the Saints this week.

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Speaker 1: We saw what the Suns did against Rosslyn Saints last year,

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Speaker 1: We've had enough value. If you've jumped on enough value

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Speaker 2: It another Gaba as well.

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Speaker 4: You might avoid a Neil though this week with the

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Speaker 4: incoming tag, Who's he.

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Speaker 1: Going to tag? What Ross is the king of mind games?

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Speaker 1: Ross Line threw up about four names at his press

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Speaker 1: conference during the week. It'll be Neil, what do we

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Speaker 3: It's Chucky Neil, I'm home.

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Speaker 1: For human cloggage, and he did say that they went

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Speaker 4: He liked that I did in the matchup. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: did enjoy it. What about some other other players we

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Speaker 4: the round thirteen by obviously only two teams Freemantle Import.

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Speaker 4: We've discussed all the targets leading into this round, aside

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Speaker 4: If you're not a non owner such as Bear, it's

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Speaker 4: a great time to pick him up. He's just clearly

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Speaker 4: Caleb's are wrong, Clear Target, we ignore the break even

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Speaker 4: as we've just said Jordan Clark, I think we can

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Speaker 2: He might be the one that gets a tag borrowly

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Speaker 1: The questions just popped up quickly on that before we

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Speaker 1: But Matthew on X with the tag back in which

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Speaker 1: mids do you sort of advise against He's Caleb's wrong

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Speaker 1: going to be tagged? Now that for you going forward?

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Speaker 1: Can he be tagged? I guess we haven't seen it

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Speaker 1: as much yet work through a bit of when when

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Speaker 4: think he can battle through, perhaps better than some due

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Speaker 4: to the strength of Frio's midfield we've seen they're just

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think I just I just ignore tags to some effect,

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Speaker 4: I'm bringing them in for that week, because they're not

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Speaker 4: he's going to make up for it with one hundred

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Speaker 4: trade him in that week. But overall, like you brought

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Speaker 4: him in last week, you're still happy with the one

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Speaker 4: it's just going to be a bit of pain and

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Speaker 2: The other other team obviously coming off the by port

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Speaker 2: Alai they've got a couple of guys there one. And

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Speaker 2: it goes back to the thinking around break even roses back.

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Speaker 2: He's break Evan's very high.

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Speaker 1: Four sixty six. Okay, I think it's a different conversation

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Speaker 1: as well, but.

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Speaker 2: This is a discount.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, him, he's gonna get cheaper and you're probably going

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Speaker 4: Mate, you can just wait till eat body.

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Speaker 2: That's that's probably That's what I was gonna ask. He

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Speaker 2: just waited bottom out. Also, you got to see how

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Speaker 2: he's going. You know, he had that great game against

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Speaker 2: you know, porn Francis and merging as well as a

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Speaker 4: Played forward when he came back last game, like a

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just on players bottoming out. Can I ask

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Speaker 3: about Clayton Oliver. I saw the experts opinion in the

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Speaker 3: we all Clayton have OUs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I'm trading him to Luke Ryan this week.

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Speaker 3: This week you'd take that, doss.

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Speaker 4: I'm a trade as well, as he said the expert

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Speaker 4: in the column. I don't know if you made the

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Speaker 4: Cup their fense. But yeah, look the experts on Code Sports,

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Speaker 4: I am a trade only because without Christian Petrarca there

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Speaker 4: is the extra load and the thought that maybe he

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Speaker 4: can perform better. I just I'm just losing faith in

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Speaker 4: the fact that I just don't know if he can perform.

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Speaker 4: We've got this idea of Clayton, and I included myself

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Speaker 4: He's been a one ten to one twenty guy his

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Speaker 4: whole career. He didn't have the full pre season, he

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Speaker 4: his old form. And I just you know, if you

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Speaker 4: go out and you're trading tour Luke Ryan or Tour Calypse,

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Speaker 4: are wrong. These guys are going to average one fifteen

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Speaker 2: He's playing like just an average player. That's he's not

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Speaker 4: If those players are twenty points better than him, if

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Speaker 4: he's one hundred to one hundred and five, guy, I

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Speaker 4: don't see a problem with training him if he's going

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Speaker 4: to be your M nine. Say, if he's just going

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Speaker 1: Field four hundred, kay, though, whatever it's going to cost

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Speaker 1: you to get to Oliver to Sorong, that's my new crew.

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Speaker 1: Can you use that money better off? Second most touches

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Speaker 1: on the ground. King's birthday game nineteen test Possessions had

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Speaker 1: three free kicks against a couple of early clangers as

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Speaker 1: well kicking clangers, which we know he is capable of.

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Speaker 1: Battled his way back. In terms of super Coach squad,

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Speaker 1: we know when you get hit with those negatives earlier.

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Speaker 1: He is always a battle. I'm not saying he's not off.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I disagree with the assessments here on

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Speaker 1: I'll be holding and again if he if he goes

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Speaker 1: one hundred for the two or three weeks after the buy,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a Connor Rosie swap there, or I'm making

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Speaker 1: the money, but I'm not four. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: gay for good of spending one hundred k to essentially

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Speaker 1: upgrade Clayton Oliver unless the rest of your team's done well.

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Speaker 3: You you're talking about a round fifteen before. I'm probably

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Speaker 3: holding Clayton Oliver.

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Speaker 1: Melbourne supporter too. If you haven't listened before, you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard Bear on the lair.

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Speaker 3: He's the only thing Melbourne that I'm positive about. I've

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Speaker 3: just always always loved him, and the season's over and everything,

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Speaker 4: I know I'm looking at I'm looking at his last

436
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 4: few matchups. Do you want to read out the numbers?

437
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Bear?

438
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 3: They are no leave it up to you in your

439
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: beautiful voice.

440
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, he's like last three against North Melbourne, one

441
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 4: coming last year and then one per year the years

442
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 4: after that. But one sixteen, one's seventy eight, and then

443
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 4: most recently one thirty four last year. So some big

444
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 4: numbers against North Melbourne.

445
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 3: But we do admit that he's not that Clayton Oliver

446
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: Revold anymore. Yeah, but I still back him in, especially

447
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: with no Petraka. I'm not too worried about the extra

448
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: load hurting him. I'm just I'm thinking it. You know,

449
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: someone's got to get those numbers, whether it's Tim Orviny

450
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: be one of them. But I back him into at

451
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: least score well over the couple of weeks and then

452
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 3: maybe even if he loses cash. You can offload him then,

453
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 3: but I'll hold him, and I'll rather Clari wave.

454
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: I think if he's sure, if you're really short this week,

455
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: potentially he could do it. I'm weighing up trading a

456
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: Jack still potentially instead flip just because of the buyer

457
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: structure next week potentially, not that I'm riding Jack still off,

458
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: but again Clarie's got the buyer, so that obviously ways

459
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: into thinking about trading.

460
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: What about this is one for you found him the

461
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: rest of the season. Yep, Clarry or Tom Bray.

462
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: It's a big cooled tom Green's seventy nine points again

463
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: absolutely being toilet. Since he's coming to my team, you know,

464
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: doing some good work on his own podcast there, maybe

465
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: he's to focus on what's happening on the ground, Tommy Green.

466
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: Careful, Jack of Gainer might come for you now he's

467
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: always watching.

468
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I think, well, I don't know. I still think, oh,

469
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I haven't thought about that. I think,

470
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: if I have to say, without any explanation, Green just

471
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: from here, I think they both find their form again.

472
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: And I think you know Green's had his bike. So

473
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 1: if you're trading him now again, your team would be

474
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: one would want to look pretty good elsewhere. Let's go

475
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: through some of the final targets. Now, we just skimmed

476
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: over a bunch in that discussion. But Luke Jackson, is

477
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: he still a potential target if you're thin in your

478
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: forward lines?

479
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: Sim what do you reckon? Five names?

480
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: I traded him out to English. I traded him out

481
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: to English last week, so I think the Darcy factor

482
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: just he'd be.

483
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 4: A later upgrade. You target other ones if you can.

484
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if yeah, I think there's probably some

485
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: better options out there. Just my opinion that the Darcy

486
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: thing just makes it a little bit too complicated.

487
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 3: Do you target him if Darcy's there all season? Or

488
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: do you only target him if Darcy's out?

489
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: Only target him if Darcy's out?

490
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: Interesting a bear Zach Butters, Is he still a premium

491
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: high on your list of targets if you're a non owner?

492
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: Do you bring him in?

493
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Bring him in. I've had him from very very

494
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: early on Dahi boy Zach Butters especially, I mean Rosie's back,

495
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: but that doesn't really phase me at all. He just

496
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: always finds the ball and he runs around like a

497
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: headless chick with it.

498
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: High on the list of targets for your premium midfielders,

499
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: Dan Houston fans, is he he's not?

500
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: Really?

501
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: You know, he started like a house on fire. Lately,

502
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: been a little bit less effective in Super Coach. Still

503
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 4: putting up some nice numbers, but not those uber premium

504
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: numbers that he has been see target or is there

505
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 4: too many defenders that you're probably not targeting him straight away?

506
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: One hundred and nine point average, Still the fifth highest

507
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: of all defenders in Super Coach. We've seen teams going

508
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: after Jerry m McGovern, going after Jordan Clark coming off

509
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: the buy. He's still a good option five sixty six

510
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: K break him into one fifty seven.

511
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 4: Again.

512
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: These recent performances before the bye a little concerning when

513
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about he'd be concerned if he did trade

514
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: me in, which a lot did after his huge start

515
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: to the season. I still don't mind him as an option.

516
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: Definitely wouldn't be swapping in on the sides. We wouldn't

517
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: do that now, but if he did it last week.

518
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have still advised it. I think high

519
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: break even. You can sort of wait and see how

520
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: he comes out after the buy, how port come out

521
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: after the buyer before jumping on. But I don't mind

522
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: him still as a pretty well priced played a fincy

523
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: defense in a couple of weeks.

524
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: All right, And lastly, let's just talk about the guys

525
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: from last week. If you haven't listened to podcast from

526
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: last week, we talked in detail about these players, but

527
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 4: I think the only ones that have already had their

528
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: buy that played the week before you've still got a

529
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: locky near. We said maybe hold off due to potential

530
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 4: tag Dane Zorco were massive on Isaac Heeney and Chad Warner.

531
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: Warner was a little bit down this week. I think

532
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: he's still okay. He's probably a bit too expensive now

533
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: if you missed him last week. I think he'll be fine, though.

534
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: Eryl, did you jump on dos? I went Warner over Gordon?

535
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: And now there was a text and there is evidence

536
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: it may be posted at some point. I texted a

537
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: message with two options, one exact same trade, one with Warner,

538
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: one with Gordon, with the hashtag w W p W

539
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: What would Phantom do?

540
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: And he said Warner? He said Warner, Oh Phantom, no,

541
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: what do you in the pan for my pan? For that?

542
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: But you know why did I say that? Answered? Am

543
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: I trying to give him the best advice? Or am

544
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I trying to sabotage? Is very very hipster?

545
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: You know?

546
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: If you DOSSI hasn't been here for the hipster years,

547
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: but long time this is un the lair will know

548
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: that hipster loves to blame me bear he does. He's

549
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: starting to creep in.

550
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: You've got to be your own man.

551
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: Is it too late though? Now? People looking? If you know,

552
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: if you are frustrated with Oliver. You don't agree with

553
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: holding he's that two sideways as well, but he's five

554
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty k good price coming up two hundred

555
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: and fifty seven.

556
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: He's down on his starting price, so he's still sixty

557
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: k down his starting price.

558
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: Crous this week, so we know five names, A big

559
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: big fan. What do you think bear.

560
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think there's any reason not to not

561
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: if you can get him in, not to get him in.

562
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's playing one hundred percent on the

563
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: ground as well these days, so he's up there, he's

564
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: racking them up. I don't know do you want to?

565
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: I know you keep looking at Fantom. I know it's

566
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: just in your DNA to ask fanom what he's going

567
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: to do. Do you want to head that way?

568
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: Final verdict?

569
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: I like it?

570
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, okay.

571
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: Crows this week. Crows in round twenty four to finish

572
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: off North in between St Kilda as well in there.

573
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: So as I said last week, we talked about these players,

574
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: but Sheesel and Fisher. I'm still massive on one more player,

575
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: will Ldu. I probably didn't give enough love too. He's

576
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: certainly been putting up really good numbers, but one extra

577
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: player has emerged that people are talking about this week

578
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: from North Melbourne obviously had their buy already. One man,

579
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: the evil one that got them the w on the weekend,

580
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: Ji Simpkin, coming off one hundred and twenty nine points.

581
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: He is dirt cheap Phantom the verdic on Simpkin, Nope,

582
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: just that's it. That's it. I'm with you to forget him. No,

583
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: not even a pill, pill for the for the No.

584
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: Three hundred and sixty one thousand, nine hundred.

585
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: If you're desperate. If you're desperate, I.

586
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: Was broken the break evens low. It is thirty one

587
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: this week.

588
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: I'll do it so you can all laugh at on X.

589
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Also says Simpkins, is that with the Sexton potential D

590
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: seven fcm speing, which you discuss but keep getting in

591
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: the questions when to be part of the show.

592
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: He's gone over ninety three times in his career. He

593
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: is forward eligible. That's the only reason that he is attempting.

594
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: Option had season highest cbas on the weekend. I think

595
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: it was around sixty five percent at the expense of

596
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: Tom Power your man, their fans, But yeah, I think

597
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: he had the late goal, which would have boosted his

598
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: score quite a bit. Yeah, he's not going to go

599
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: one hundred plus, but I mean as an eighty five ninety,

600
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: that's you know.

601
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: It becomes a forward. He's an option. Well he is

602
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: a It.

603
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: Depends on how many trades you've got left and what

604
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: your strategy is, how you're attacking the end of the season.

605
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: I think a couple of questions. I'll quickly run through

606
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: my turn to ask a couple of questions. You know,

607
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: just take my place back bear quickly. One word. Rookie

608
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: coach on X says, for those who don't have Ryan

609
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: or Zorco, which one would you get this week?

610
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: Ryan?

611
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: Don't this week?

612
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: You're just going forward this week?

613
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: This week?

614
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: Or if you.

615
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Want both and you probably have to play the break

616
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: even game if you're going to get both, Yeah.

617
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: That's the problem. But I'm so worried about like if

618
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: you want a vice captain score as well, I feel

619
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: like Dane Zorco. Yeah he's going to put up a

620
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: massive vice captain score.

621
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: Freo of the second game as well this weekend.

622
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: Against the Dogs. Oh my goodness.

623
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah that's I'm saying Zorco. But I don't think you

624
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: can go wrong.

625
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: No those names. Jet Murphy says, welcome to the top

626
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: thousand fan Thank you, g sitting fifteen in the world. Okay,

627
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: so well played, good season so far. Needs to make

628
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: some calls on underwhelming primos. Who would you prefer to

629
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: move on an upgrade to the next tier, the top

630
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: tier of premiums? Out of Sam Walsh, Tuck Miller and

631
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Jack Steele. We're a bit cool to trade any of them.

632
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Who would you move on?

633
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: You've just said Jack Steele, you're thinking about So what's

634
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: your like?

635
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: I would trade two?

636
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two.

637
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm not super concerned about Jack. Still, we didn't have

638
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: if he didn't have a buy, if buyers want a thing,

639
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be trading him out. But it's more so

640
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: he's the one I'm probably happy to sacrifice.

641
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: It's doing your Tad Steel impacted by the superstar Patty

642
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: now coming into the team. That's what I'm hearing.

643
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: Corey at the A teen sc Gorner one, who is

644
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: R two from here, he's thinking Grundy giving he's had

645
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: his buy. But there's just something inside of me that

646
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: says English makes up those points thoughts. Now we're going

647
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: to say, Tim le copping a lot of heat over

648
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks in the super Coach community.

649
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: The boy was averaging one hundred and thirteen points per

650
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: game before last week's performance. Still going okay, I still

651
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: think you know he they do the same from here

652
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: going and Grundy in English, and we know English has

653
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: got a one seventy one or eighty potentially still in him.

654
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: So I'm still happy with my saigon to go with Timm.

655
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Grundy's playing like a man from look, he's back to

656
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: the Drundy win. He looks so gooious.

657
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: He averages like one thirty or something plus at the SCG.

658
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: Shout out to doctor super Coach's pigs. He's now my

659
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: boy on x go follow him as well. But he

660
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: did a fantastic analysis of the run for the Rucks

661
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: on the Run home, and he had Brodie Grundy. This

662
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: is before the weekend. He had Brodie Grundy as the

663
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: clear R two this week.

664
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Also, where does he have Cherry ats Ariel Because it's

665
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: actually he's just staying there, isn't He's just staying It's

666
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: a little if you had him, you'd be like, can

667
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: I get rid of it.

668
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: Go listen to that analysis from last week. He didn't

669
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: have Cherry in the mix. I think he's got a

670
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: harder run for rucks upcoming. And yeah, the reason for

671
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: that was just match up data, based on match up

672
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: data and who which rucks you're coming up against. I

673
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: think Gorn was still up there, Grundy was up there,

674
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: and then Marshall was I think close to third. But

675
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: he said that he's he's good late in the season

676
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: if you're like Bear and you're going for your league finals.

677
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: His finals fixture was amazing, but in the lead up

678
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 4: not so good.

679
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: That's good to hear. I am a marshallman.

680
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 4: You are. I'm a marshallman too, and maybe I'll be

681
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: going for leagues now that I've taken the lack.

682
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: And it's a tiny little fibu. I don't think anyone

683
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: will get this is absolutely guy's absolutely flying at the moment,

684
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: shooting from the hip, Tom to Connie is absolutely flying

685
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: at the moment. I'm going forward. Where does he like

686
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: his last three stores? And this obviously there's a lot

687
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: of talk about you know him and him and pinning

688
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: it in the team together and how carld and win more

689
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: games when to Connie is the solo right his last

690
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: three games one. I know it's crazy, but I know, yeah,

691
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: he's on the buy this week. But when he comes back,

692
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: is he if you want a little pile, you know,

693
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: if you want to, you know, try and make a

694
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: little ground, is he not? I don't know, it's you know,

695
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: it's the most risky if you can think.

696
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: That's the last thing, not with not with the rucks.

697
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: It's not worth with the rucks. We have sitting there

698
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: out there in a in a keeper league. I have

699
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: Tom deaconing R three in a one rock league as well,

700
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: So I'm laughing.

701
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: I think if you hadn't you know, if you randomly

702
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: still didn't have your R two set or something like that,

703
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 4: if you've been rotating through these the Strawns and the meets,

704
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: just going through that rotating cycle, you know, why not

705
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: take a punt if you If you're looking at that,

706
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: he's kind of building his score, kind of like the

707
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: Tim English of old in terms of he's not winning

708
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: hit out. He's still got smoked in the hitouts from

709
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: Goldstein and even Peter Wright. He only had nineteen hitouts,

710
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: but he's just getting possessions around the ground, getting massive

711
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: contested possessions, big marks like I don't know if it's sustainable,

712
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: but far out he's looking good.

713
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Pitting the list is a test this week all injury

714
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: list obviously got to buy, so you think you'd be

715
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: ready to go. But that could be the reason. You know,

716
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: they're still against the big hulking ruckmen at the center

717
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: bounce and from memory around the ground he's putting out.

718
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 4: It was one of the better hitouts to advantage ruckman

719
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: in the league as well, so they might just want

720
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: that first use. That would be the only reason. But yeah,

721
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: he's numbers wild.

722
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, since on top of the pod, we'll finish

723
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: it off this week.

724
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: The lead of Junior here finishing off the show.

725
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: It all right, you.

726
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: Don't deserve junior? Sorry, I cut in and take myself back.

727
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: Do I deserve the junior? You said? Bears scored the

728
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: same as you twice. He's just beating me.

729
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't follow a hand over the man to, he doesn't

730
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: follow Phantom around the office. All right, So Rankin's going

731
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: to return against oh couple of weeks. What do we

732
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: have to see? Is it straight after his boy ring

733
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: him in? Like, what do you have to see for

734
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: him this week.

735
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: I think I have to see him run out of

736
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: the race. That's it. You're on the forwards. I'm happy

737
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: low break. Yeah, I'm not going to jump on this week,

738
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: even though if you're playing the pure money game you

739
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: would break even. But again this stage of the year,

740
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: probably just make sure you can afford him a couple

741
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: of weeks in that forward poor been saving the spot

742
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: for him in my forward line. So as long as

743
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: he runs out this week, runs out after the buyer,

744
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: he's coming in.

745
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: What was what was the final verdict on rookies? I

746
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: know it's just a big talking point. We had the

747
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: benefit of having the Show and Maker news come out.

748
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 4: Are you final verdict? Fans? Would you go? Which rookie

749
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: would you go? This week?

750
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: Have any of them?

751
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: Any? What's your what's your list of one time?

752
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: I think you go Dowling if he's not the.

753
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: Sub downing one Maker too.

754
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: We know he's a real plays a very super coach

755
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: friendly game.

756
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: One hundred and seven super coach average in.

757
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: THEFL we still haven't seen him do it the top level.

758
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: And then Collingwood's.

759
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: True, I truely ahead of ahead of shown makers, just

760
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: just from my nos a bit more expensive, but I've

761
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: seen him do it, I feel better about his job security.

762
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: Shall maker for me. He's an accumulator, non accumulator both

763
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: Talent League and in the VFL as well so.

764
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: Far, doesn't handle either just kicks.

765
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit nervous about. We've had so many

766
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: rookies debut earlier this year that it's really going to

767
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 3: dry up end of the season. So I'm happy to

768
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: go early on any name that pops up as a debutante.

769
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm with you, bear, he's got to get the last

770
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 3: word now a little bit. There was a question I'll

771
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: comment on next as well. Surely the Hipster is back

772
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: this week.

773
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: He's not. Unfortunately, we're hoping for the Hipster next week

774
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: making a slow climb. You've got him covered. Oh yeah,

775
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: though five names, but he has made his way back

776
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: up the ranks after that slow starts. So hopefully Hipster

777
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: is back next week. But good luck in round fourteen.

778
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: Another difficult week of Super Coach with the buyers, and

779
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: we'll see you on the other side for what will

780
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: be the final, thankfully by a week between twenty four