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Speaker 1: my fiftieth and my partner will like just put on

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Speaker 1: No boyfriend arrived in time. Hello and welcome to the

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Speaker 2: We are recording from gadigal Land today and while Cam

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Speaker 2: is not with me, I actually have an incredibly special

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Speaker 2: and dear dear friend with me. You may actually have

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Speaker 2: heard of her, the gorgeous, the divine Catherine Mahoney.

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Speaker 1: So exciting. It's not our first road, dear, there was it.

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Speaker 1: We've had a few pods together. I know.

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Speaker 2: In fact, we became really dear dear friends when you

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Speaker 2: came on so p at bathrooms with your book currently

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Speaker 2: between husbands, and we kind of fell in love with

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Speaker 1: I think I fell in love with you first. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it was equal to remember, it was like

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Speaker 1: been friends ever since. We have proper friends, proper friends,

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Speaker 1: we've laughed together. Yep, we've eaten a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: We've been in the water, We've been harry, we've been

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Speaker 1: less hairy. That's on the beach, indeed, not in private.

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Speaker 1: Why what sort of friend are you?

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Speaker 2: And I've sort of I've sort of ridden ridden the

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Speaker 2: you know, on your different apps, on the apps, off

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Speaker 2: for an awfully long time, it's it's I'm living totally

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Speaker 2: vicariously through your extraordinary love life.

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Speaker 1: Extraordinary what do we call it? That I think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's active. Although we've had two spikes, have

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Speaker 2: Been nothing, it has been interesting, like right, very interesting,

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Speaker 2: very interesting. I still have to see so, just so

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Speaker 2: the listeners know, I don't have a lot of sleepover action.

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Speaker 1: Yes I would like more. I don't know a lot.

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Speaker 1: But we did end up having some sleepover action from

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Speaker 1: the app. There was a build up, took a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, and you were the one that made me

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Speaker 1: tell two people in the building that I had a

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Speaker 1: gentleman caller coming over and Casey killed me. I did.

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Speaker 2: I think I've watched too many I survived TV shows.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what happens if he's just? He's just?

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Speaker 1: I was like, if I do get killed, this is

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Speaker 1: the photo I like them to put on the news.

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Speaker 2: I know, we need a proof of life in the

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Speaker 2: morning to make sure you're okay.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, there's lots to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: I know there's that There's quite some interesting things that

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Speaker 2: have happened with you and are happening also with you.

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Speaker 2: You're such a creative As I said, You've wrote your

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Speaker 2: book currently between husbands, you're working on another book, which

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Speaker 2: is not a sequel, but it's because the first one

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Speaker 2: was more, you know, autobiography of your life, but this

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Speaker 1: It's fictional.

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Speaker 2: But can you just explain a little bit about it,

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Speaker 1: which you invited me to which I now weekly said no. Luckily,

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Speaker 1: It's probably really wrong. It looks really it's quite pretty.

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Speaker 2: Because when I've had a conversation at Balmoral Beach with

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Speaker 1: And we might be into it. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 2: You took the incredible brave step of creating a one

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Speaker 1: is that a thing? Or have I got another condition? No,

430
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a thing.

431
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that I think you'd talk to a

432
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: lot of women our age has the same problem. And

433
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: I've and I've been on the phone with you many

434
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 2: a time when that's happened.

435
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna mute. It's just a week, it's just

436
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: a way. So yeah, they're they're the joys, the highs

437
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: and the low Yeah, exactly do you think?

438
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: I mean, do you feel like we've gotten better about

439
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: menopause in the sense of like talking about.

440
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: It, owning it hugely, right, hugely, Like my mum's generation.

441
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: They you know, they didn't try the HRTs, they didn't

442
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: do any of that stuff. They didn't talk about it,

443
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and it's a huge thing. I just think I was

444
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: really grateful that I had to use a friend because

445
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: I didn't have the hot sweats scenario, which to me,

446
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, if if you're menopausal, I still have

447
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: my period. If you're menopausal, it's the hot sweats. I

448
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: wasn't having that. I just went I just had zero joy.

449
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: I just really flat lined and thought it was depression.

450
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: And so I'm really glad that we were friends and

451
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: I could speak to you about that. But now it's

452
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: it's so much more prevalent, isn't it, And it's just

453
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: accepted and talked about, and it's just a thing. But

454
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: I think coming out the other side, you do feel

455
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: great again. You feel energized. Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing.

456
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: A spin class, yeah, probably would probably hurt something, but yeah,

457
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: so much more energy again, and you want to be creative.

458
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, try new things. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Do

459
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: you feel do you feel that there's a misconception.

460
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: You know, I know that you've we talk a lot

461
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 2: about you know, we mentioned earlier about you being on

462
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: the apps and stuff like that and being currently single.

463
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: Do you reckon there's a misconception about women being single

464
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: at fifty or even being married at fifty. Do you

465
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: think there's misconceptions around that.

466
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: I think it's down to the individual, isn't it. Really.

467
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm a hopeless romantic, as you know, so I would

468
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: love to be partnered, but with the right person, not

469
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: just anyone. And I think, you know, there is something

470
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: to be said about sleeping diagonal in you bed having

471
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: to deal with A friend of mine was saying that

472
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: she wanted to kill her husband the other day because

473
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: the way he was eating bacon, and I thought, oh,

474
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't have that problem because I don't have a husband.

475
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: So is bacon eating doesn't bother me? Yeah, So I

476
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I can only answer it. I suppose from

477
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: my PERSPECTI I think a lot more people are obviously

478
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: separating and our generation than there maybe previous generations that

479
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: just stayed together and made it work or didn't. And

480
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: so yeah, there are a lot more people on the

481
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: apps and that's a new thing because most of us

482
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: our age were married when they win no apps, so

483
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: it is a very different way to date, right, absolutely.

484
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a friend of mine talk about She

485
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: said her husband has had like really bad sort of flu,

486
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: so he's been sleeping in the second bedroom for like.

487
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: She goes, it's spent five nights now, she has the

488
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: best sleep of my life.

489
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to make in the bedroom. He's desperate

490
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: to come back in and I've been loving it. She goes,

491
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: how do I keep him sick so he doesn't come back?

492
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: It's like small doses of there must be some kind

493
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: of cold, must be something you get in the dark web.

494
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: But I feel like for women more than men, you know,

495
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: being single at our age, it's almost like.

496
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: There's a little I feel like there's still that little bit.

497
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: Of like, oh poor her, rather than like how empowering her?

498
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like the crazy cat lady

499
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: type scenario. Men don't have the crazy yeah, you know

500
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like he's on his own and

501
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: he's dating younger or whatever it is. But women, we're

502
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: so powerful at this age, and a lot of women

503
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: choose to be single and are incredibly happy.

504
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: With you too, I think to as a woman, this

505
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: is again, this is just my experience on the dating

506
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: apps now and dating now that I you know, I

507
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to have a child. I've got sixteen

508
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: year old. Feeling less lucky some mornings with a sixteen

509
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: year old. But I'm not looking for that partner to

510
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: have a child with. And would I be married again, yes,

511
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: if it was the right person, but I'm kind of not.

512
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: That's not the end goal. So I think you can

513
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: be a bit not more picky, but you can you

514
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: date for different reasons. I've got a great friend who

515
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: just states, like guys who are like twenty years younger

516
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: enough because she's like, you know what, I've had two kids,

517
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm divorced, I'm happy living on my own. I really

518
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: find men who are younger, attractive and just it's a

519
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: bit more kind of almost transactional. I know that you're

520
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: not looking for a child and to get married, and

521
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, I guess we're all in there

522
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: for different things.

523
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: And as far as like getting married or marriage as

524
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: a whole, has that shifted at all for you?

525
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, I don't I don't regret my marriage for

526
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: being together with my with my ex husband for thirteen

527
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: years and Lewis, and we're all now in a great

528
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: sort of setup. And I suppose then I wanted the

529
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: house and the picket fence, you know, the two point

530
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: four kids, all of that stuff that we didn't quite have,

531
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: whereas now I would I would like to be married,

532
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: because for me, that is that's a real, I suppose

533
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: form of commitment, like we really want to do this,

534
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: But I would happily be married and live in separate houses.

535
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: I worked in London many years ago, and the editor

536
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: for the magazine I worked for had been happily married

537
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: for like thirty years, and I mean they were wadded,

538
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: but they both had a gorgeous house on the same

539
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: street in London. That's how it worked for them. So

540
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: that I like that idea of marriage. Yep, is that

541
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: Can I do that? If anyone's listening like the sound

542
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: of that, I might have some rope tricks that mus

543
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: sleep too. If it wants to propose, Absolutely the soft ropes.

544
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: We've got the gloves. I've got the gloves.

545
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Let's got a lot of information at your beck and

546
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: corner short shots.

547
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: So that's what I realized young people go for a

548
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: really long time just to just to go off off subject. Yeah.

549
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

550
00:28:49,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is dating in your fifties, is it?

551
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Is it a bit more like it? Is it a

552
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: romantic adventure or is it.

553
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: Just like a massive amount of red flags that you're like,

554
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh good god.

555
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean look as a writer, it's gold. Yeah, it's

556
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: absolute gold. There's I mean, there are some really clear

557
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: red flag straight to somebody. And I suppose it's what

558
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: you're in the market for in you Are you in

559
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: the market to taste you know, a younger chap and

560
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: you know it's just going to be physical. Do you

561
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: want a long term partner? Yeah? I mean the other

562
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: day I was on an app and someone basically just

563
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be my slave. Oh. I was like, I

564
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: was like, this is like air tasker, but free. I

565
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: think he just wants me to say nasty things to it.

566
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: Can you'll do the oven in the fridge? Should you

567
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: do it by zoom? So it's easier if you want him?

568
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: Do you want him doing the jobs? Just like I'm

569
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: just calling you up to do that. He just wanted

570
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: to see you. You and I we've discussed this before.

571
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: Are people pleasers to the core, So being a dominatrix,

572
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 1: I would be rubbish at mad. I'd be like, do

573
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: this is that okay? To mind? Sorry, clean my own shoes.

574
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I think I think that means we're subs. Baby, Yes, okay,

575
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: got it, got it. Yeah we should get badges.

576
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that sound the next batch subs, which is dipping

577
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: to the sandwich.

578
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, Now I think that's a sexual position. So

579
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: there's so much to lose. I went on this at

580
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: cole Field f e e l D f e e

581
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: l D.

582
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: Yes.

583
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just for kinks. Yep, like literally, so there's

584
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: me put my full name and all my normal photos,

585
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: and then I went on there and people are like

586
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: just their initial blurred out. There's like body parts, there's

587
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: there's like all of these acronyms. I had to google.

588
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: It was just like, I'm not doing that. That's not

589
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: for me, thank you. I got hit up so many

590
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: times to be part of a threesome, which is nice.

591
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: So I think if you're feeling like if you haven't

592
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: a fugly day, people want with their wife because the

593
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: boreamorous saw some Wow, Xander's going to have a great time.

594
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to find him on it now? And oh

595
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: my god, what are you into?

596
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking Field as an f I E

597
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: l D like it, but like it's I'm Field, Like

598
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: I feeled the body.

599
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Like it's that Like that's the I love that you've

600
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: gone into that depth. I'm just like, and I was like,

601
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: am I pan sexual? Like there's all of these you know,

602
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: do I want to try a woman like? And if

603
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: I do want to try a woman like, do I

604
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: want a shorter woman than me? Or don't want a

605
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: taller woman like, you know, a bit more of a

606
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: mess or a lady that can lift me up in

607
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: the shower as I get older and I can't get in. Yeah,

608
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of things to think about. I know.

609
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: It's a lot, isn't it, which is why I'm doing

610
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: the research and making all fiction.

611
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some of the stories that you have

612
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: told me over the years, I just I mean, like,

613
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: you can't make that ship up.

614
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Like this is what I mean. And I screenshot it

615
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: to show you because and also as menopausal woman, we forget,

616
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: so I have to write it down straight away. Yeah,

617
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: all of the stuff I'm like, keep going, Yeah, this

618
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: is wonderful. I matched with somebody on hinge the other day,

619
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: which is a kind of normal one hinge and although

620
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: the Shibari guy was on a hinge too, which I

621
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: think he should have been on field, but it's fine.

622
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: It saved me. Tow Ldred does he's probably on that. Yeah,

623
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: And this guy matches me and he was like, you know,

624
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: oh you're so beautiful, and which is nice, you know,

625
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: and he was like a really tall well he was.

626
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: He was a really tall, kind of Danishish looking guy

627
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: who wasn't Danish. And then and then I said, oh

628
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: you too, and he said, oh, only one problem and

629
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: I was like right, and he said I'm gay. And

630
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I said, okay, should you have should have? Should you

631
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: have ticked the chaps like box? You liked the chaps?

632
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, I'm just I'd like to

633
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: make some female friends. But also if I if I

634
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: make a female friend and I like her, then maybe

635
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: I would want to try more. And I was like,

636
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: I didn't tick that box. I ticked the box for

637
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: a man that was definitely going to put you to

638
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: be with a lady. So I was like, wtf. I mean,

639
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: so it's a lot.

640
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: Out there not like, let's be platonic until I might

641
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: want to possibly have sex with you.

642
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. There's a guy on Tinder who's

643
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: who's thirty two, because I think if Bradley Cooper is

644
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: with GG, that's like twenty years, so this guy's you know,

645
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: this is not twenty years. This is eighteen. So I

646
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: feel like, if it's all right for Bradley, should be

647
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: all right for the ladies. But the thing is, I

648
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: really like, look of his mum. Do you want to

649
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: be friends with them? And I wanted to say, I

650
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: think your mom she's she's got Lee Matthews dress and

651
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: I've got that, but I didn't know if that was

652
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: sexy anyway. So these are these are the pitfalls, pitfall

653
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: that the highs and the lows of my dating life

654
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: from my sofa. And I love.

655
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: I love when you've like sent me like text messages

656
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: of like this is he's used too many emojis, He's

657
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: he's off the list. I've I've unmatched with him because

658
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: the emojis has gone too much.

659
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, like that. I can't even

660
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: it's the IX, like it's the IX that you don't

661
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: know you've got like for me men with cats, like

662
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: there was a man with one of those hairless cats

663
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: sort of that was like a bit kind of I'm

664
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: allergic to cats, so that's never going to work. Great

665
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: men that play guitar and do a video about themselves

666
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: playing guitar that gives Having worked at Sony Music with

667
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: the greats, you go, I don't think I can. I

668
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: don't think I can hear you like kill that pil

669
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Jump song. Do We've made love? So you're a no,

670
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: that's no yea. I think that would probably if Cam

671
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: had a.

672
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Profile play guitar, everything would be guitar and here's.

673
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: I've got three guitars. How big my guitars? So you

674
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: don't know what your ex are until you sort of

675
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: get into it. It's so funny. The Joys stay married,

676
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: listeners stay get on the apps, and any good stories

677
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: reach out to me and share them. I was thinking

678
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: that who's got the better gossip?

679
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: And you can clearly hear that Kath Mahoney has far

680
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: the better gossip.

681
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: I've got, like, well, you did the fisting gloves you

682
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: were like, you could use that in the book and

683
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: the main character's parents could think they were washing up gloves.

684
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: I was like, this is goal.

685
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: I know, I know, well, my imagination can can go

686
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: to places for sure, especially when I know that you

687
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: need content for your book.

688
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: It's like it gives me reason to sort of thing.

689
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: I send you funny dog reels and you send me that.

690
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: I know, this is so true, this is so true. Well, well,

691
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: how does single life from here look for you? Is

692
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: it frustrating? Is it freeing?

693
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Is it both?

694
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, is there a five year plan

695
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: or desire for you?

696
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: That what you want? I think I swing between. I

697
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: am enough, you know, I am whole and oh my god,

698
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: I really need a partner, like I really do sort

699
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: of swing and I think that's the whole. You go

700
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: on and off the app, you know, you just try

701
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: and hope you might meet someone. Oh it's when you

702
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: least expect it. If another one of my married friends

703
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: says that to me, it will punch them in the face.

704
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: So I do I swing between. I mean, I think

705
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: you and I talked about this before the show. Maybe

706
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: it was after the show that I realized I really,

707
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: as I said at the beginning of the chat, I

708
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: kind of almost wanted that imaginary boyfriend that I didn't

709
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: have to put on an amazing fiftieth for me. And

710
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: then I looked around, especially the first night, because the

711
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: first night was so much full of you know, sort

712
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: of friends and people I love, and I just went

713
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: In the last ten years, I have been a single

714
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: mum a lot, and I've been a single person, but

715
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: all of these people, I just felt so loved and

716
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: that love comes in different ways, and that sometimes, in fact,

717
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: best friend love I think is almost like the love

718
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: that you have for a child. It's not like the

719
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: love you have for your husband, because you might want

720
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: to kill them sometimes, but with your friends, you tend

721
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: to just love them heart. Yeah. So, and I still

722
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: like a partner.

723
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: It's so true, and I think I don't know if

724
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: it is again, it's just the preciousness of friendship as

725
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: we age as well is so important, you know. And

726
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: I've spoken a lot about this going through perimenopause and

727
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: menopause when I first got back from America, the depth

728
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: of loneliness that I felt just for the physical changes

729
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: that I was going through anyway, But so I think,

730
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, if you've got friends that you can and

731
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't even have to be a large group but

732
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: if you've got friends that understand you and are supportive,

733
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: it's just it's it.

734
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Creates a whole Yeah, and judgment free and cheerleaders. Yeah,

735
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: and people that you can that you have shared interest

736
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: and love, you know, and just laughing. You cannot put

737
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: a price on how how good you feel when you laugh,

738
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: can you? Yeah? For sure.

739
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to finish up with a few quick quick questions.

740
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: Quick one one answers anything I say answered the first

741
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: thing that comes to mind, which with you could go

742
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: absolutely anywhere.

743
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: But this is like our rapid heartbeat kind of section.

744
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, feeling hot and I already know the answer

745
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: to a lot of these.

746
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, morning, personal night out. Morning spanks or

747
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: freedom as not like spanking, that's something different. No freedom,

748
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: because I have to end up. I end up on degas.

749
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: If I wear spanks, I get trapped wind Hey, I

750
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: get there too. My tummy huts with I have to

751
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: if I'm going to wear them, I have to take

752
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: de gas and Buscapan. I came out of Chateau more

753
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: Mom once with some famousy people, and I was a

754
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: bit pissed and my bag opened and all of these

755
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: de gas but like the paps were taking photos. I

756
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's for wind. I was wind tablets,

757
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: not drugs. And I had to go gas because they're American,

758
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: aren't they. It's not it's gas like a I guess

759
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: cut me out of these spanks. That's I never put

760
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: that together. That makes sense. So I wear marks and

761
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: spencers anddies that I pull over my tummy, but they

762
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: pop under, Yeah, over under to just give up the role.

763
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: It pulls down. What's your favorite comfort food when the

764
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: hormones hit? Oh for oh god, that's I can't just

765
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: narrow that down. That's like picking one child. Just whatever

766
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I like to do, savory, then chocolate that I like

767
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: to do. He's play. Then I might go to the

768
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: ice cream, and then I might just hit Lewis's lunchbox

769
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: and acts. It just depends how deep down the hole

770
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: I've got.

771
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrity crush at twenty five versus now twenty five?

772
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Who'd I fancy it? Twenty five?

773
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: No?

774
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, Well, and your crush now is Tom Hardy,

775
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: but also Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford. Actually, at any age

776
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: I would have said, specifically in Star Wars's hand solo,

777
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have had sex with him,

778
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: but then I also liked him all of the Patriot

779
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: games where he was like, you know that kind of

780
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: slightly bondie. But in shrinking, I'd also have sex with

781
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: him because he's just so funny. Okay, and Clister Lockhart

782
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: his partner, she's you know, youngish, yep, she is. I'd

783
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: bang Harrison. Okay, you know, I thought you're going to

784
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: tell bang her. I would. I do love Tom Hardy,

785
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: but because I really love his wife as an actress,

786
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: I just feel I feel it dirty right saying about

787
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: that that Tom. Now, plus after reading he's not that

788
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: good in the knees and he's a bit achy. I

789
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: was like, together though, I just be like, can you

790
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: just rub me? Wears a whole water bottle? Tom, what's

791
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: your what's your most used emoji? Actually the magic, you know,

792
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: like the magic and that's not the magic wand but

793
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: like this it looks like a squirt magic. Yeah. Butterfly? Yeah,

794
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: with you use a butterfly? Is there a pet peeve

795
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: that instantly sends you over the edge? Oh my gosh. Yeah,

796
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: when people cut you up and don't do the wave?

797
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, when they're driving like I can,

798
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: like like someone can nearly have risked my son and

799
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: mine life. Then they do the wave and I'm like, fine,

800
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I know, probs. Yeah, when they don't do the wave,

801
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: I know it's so just like raise your hand, just

802
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: raise your hand. That people that don't smile when I smile,

803
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: it's centennial that pisses me off. Also, anyone that graffitis,

804
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: especially like rot you know, like nature, if they graffiti

805
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: nature or trees or rocks or how long have you got?

806
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: Was it just one a second? My pet peeves when

807
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: you have to loan your front and in the pillow

808
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: and put your bottom cheeks apart for them to either

809
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: wax it or laser it, so you're like face down

810
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: in the pillow with your hands spreading your bum cheeks. Hate.

811
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: That's that's very specific. I've given you a plethora of

812
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: that you have. I'm going to take all of them.

813
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: Is there one thing that you'd put on like a

814
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: midlife survival kit it says something that you think women

815
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: need to have it out.

816
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Vibrator, vibrator, Yeah, tell us about that. A vibrator. Well,

817
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: I my favorite one is called Libido. It's lbdo and

818
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: she is an Australia. They're Australian made and it gets

819
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: the reviews are like ten out of ten. And I

820
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: always thought I would like an Innie, so like a

821
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, something that goes in you. Yes, and I

822
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: get what some people don't. My friend Michelle was like,

823
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: you've got to be specific about an idiot when I

824
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: was telling her, and I was like, no, and this

825
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: is an Anie. And I didn't think i'd like an Honi.

826
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Holy moly, Yeah, I know we've a lot about.

827
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: In fact, you are now an ambassador. An ambassador, they're amazing.

828
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: But you can I can have an organism in forty

829
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: five seconds. You can not with someone and they're probably

830
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: going to take a bit longer. But just on my

831
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: own I'm working from home, you can have loads. So

832
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: it's great. Oh the joy of creative at home.

833
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: I love the fact that you loved it's so much

834
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: that you like called them and you were like, this

835
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: is the best I'm going to advertise you you get

836
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: I've one out for free at your one woman's show.

837
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: He's going to support my shows. She just yeah, because

838
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: it was just it's a game changer for the ladies

839
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: who are living alone or who've got a husband. Yes. Anyway,

840
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: last question, yes, is there's something that you.

841
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: I find this I'm asking you this question. I often

842
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: find it really difficult myself to answer. But as a

843
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: fifty year old, is there something that you wish you

844
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: could go back and tell yourself as a thirty year old.

845
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: What I tell my thirty Yeah, I would just say,

846
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: really enjoy your thirties, Really enjoy them, because you've got

847
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: a cracking libidore. If you have a baby, they are

848
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: like they're still a baby, because teenagers are not enjoyable

849
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: all the time. Or see your parents that are at

850
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: an age where they're kind of still young and can

851
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: do so then but there's just my drama at thirty

852
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: was just was not drama, you know. So yeah, I

853
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: think I would just go back and go just enjoy it.

854
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: Just suck it up. It's wonderful. I mean, I'm loving

855
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: my fifties. Yeah, but obviously, you know with every stage,

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Speaker 1: things happened, isn't it. But yeah, in my thirties, what

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Speaker 1: did you have to worry about? And I looked amazing

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't wear a bikini on the beach. I

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Speaker 1: look back now and go id nothing on the beach

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Speaker 1: if I look like right now we wear towels. Yeah, whilst.

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Speaker 2: Well, Katherine Mahoney, I'm excited for what you've got coming up.

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Speaker 2: I know this book's going to be delightful. The one

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Speaker 2: woman show. Oh my god, look out for her when

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Speaker 2: when Kath does this. It's so great. You can follow

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Speaker 2: Kath on Instagram on Katherine Mahoney in the middle blame

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Speaker 2: my mum.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 2: But thank you so much for coming in so good.

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Speaker 2: You're such a delight, You're always been, so thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming in. And also just again like I just

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Speaker 2: love this freedom of your the sex positive that how

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Speaker 2: you're talking about this and sort of again just taking

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Speaker 2: away the shame and the taboo of just talking.

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Speaker 1: About I'm being curious and playful. That's right. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: at the end of this, you know, I might go

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Speaker 1: back and just realize I really just like Vanilla, or

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Speaker 1: I might you know, have a whole bag of tricks.

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Speaker 1: Your researchers is benefiting many of us. Yes, thanks, thank you,