WEBVTT - #1923 Doing Better Than You Feel - Harps & Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>I get atf welcome to Look. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard of this. It's called the You Project. My

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<v Speaker 1>name's Craig Harpy. You can call me, you know, Fatty

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<v Speaker 1>Harp's Jumbo whatever you like. Just don't call me late

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<v Speaker 1>for dinner. Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you rings a bell? You the you pro?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, you look been around for a while, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my ship doesn't think I'm fucking amazing, amazing. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>we'll say even I don't say that, and the people

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<v Speaker 1>definitely don't say that, so we know that's a crock

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<v Speaker 1>of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>They bloody do though. This is the thing they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked myself up once and one of my best

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<v Speaker 1>friends shot me down in a fucking blaze of glory.

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<v Speaker 1>What a prick.

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<v Speaker 2>You should punch them in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was I going to

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<v Speaker 1>say to you, we were just talking about and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about something else. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll get there. But we're talking about how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you show you've got to show up. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a podcast, or you've got to do a presentation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in our lives anyway, not the but you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do whatever it is that you do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it might be you doing parenting, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be you doing selling apples at the mark, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But especially when it's kind of I guess communication based

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<v Speaker 1>or interpersonal or people based, and you just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a five out of ten, but you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to look like you're five out of ten, or you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to saund and you want to you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do a ten out of ten job, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of there, but you're just like, fuck, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even feeling what I'm saying. You've had a bit of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Had so much of that, so much harps.

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<v Speaker 1>So you will tell Look, we're all here for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Now, We're all here, everybody. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you to lean in and you know, just put

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<v Speaker 1>out your hands and come on, yeah, loving the Lord's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to be right, so you just open up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in a save space, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think in pictures, right, So as you were saying that,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone was leaning in with their arms out, ready to.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a big hug.

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<v Speaker 3>But then all of a sudden, they all put their

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<v Speaker 3>arms out in this whole evangelic cool thing going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh that changed, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you can just have the hug or you can

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<v Speaker 1>have the prayer. So you've been all the well wishes

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<v Speaker 1>or the positive vibes or whatever it is that works

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<v Speaker 1>for you. So what's been going on? Like you were

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<v Speaker 1>about to kind of downline, and I went, fuck it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just tell everyone, because I think it's the human experience,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. It's like, yeah, so so go well.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I talk about it all the time

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<v Speaker 3>recently because all of our preambles have been oh, TIFFs, foremones, tifts, tired,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's all, you know, like it's just a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a continuation of that shocking sleep, shocking energy. And

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<v Speaker 3>I said to you before, like I've had a few

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<v Speaker 3>podcasts lately or meetings where I'm just you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're sitting in the middle of it and you're like

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<v Speaker 3>you are, oh, the any critic, Like, brain's not firing,

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<v Speaker 3>not my usual self, I can't engage the same way,

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<v Speaker 3>aren't thinking as fast And then just start observing that

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<v Speaker 3>and criticizing myself in the middle of it and just

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<v Speaker 3>being so embarrassed for myself, just like, oh, God, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's wrong with you? Plan to pull the pin on

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing. You might have to move to blow

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<v Speaker 3>Canber and get a job washing dishes somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's I mean, I don't know, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a couple of steps between where you are

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<v Speaker 1>and shout out to the Canberrans too. I mean, let

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<v Speaker 1>me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send you my resume.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've just thrown canbra under the bus. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I quite like. Camera just seems to be like the

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<v Speaker 1>low rung on the ladder, the geographical ladder moved to camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out, shout out it is. It is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing though, when you have a job and everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>has you know, a job or a role that they

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<v Speaker 1>feel or whatever, and you you know you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the best at that, but you don't feel the best,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't. It's like I say to my clients,

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<v Speaker 1>my trainers, I should say, everyone pays the same amount

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<v Speaker 1>for you, So whether or not if you're training with

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<v Speaker 1>TIF at seven am or seven pm, you should get

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<v Speaker 1>the same tiff because I'm not paying more or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>paying So the challenge for you as the coach or

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<v Speaker 1>the speaker or the trainer in this example, and the

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<v Speaker 1>challenge for me was trying to have as much energy, focus,

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<v Speaker 1>attention and quality of product at seven pm when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to the gym at five am. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>we're fourteen hours in because they don't I can't go, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really tired. It's been a big day. You're my

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth appointment, so you know it'll probably be shit, but

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<v Speaker 1>you understand because I'm tired. Well, no, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing to do with them and everything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And I used to talk about this idea.

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<v Speaker 1>This could become the title or not. So there's two

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<v Speaker 1>terms for it. One is your performance threshold. And your

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<v Speaker 1>performance threshold means how much of a certain thing can

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<v Speaker 1>you do at the level that you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it before you need a break or a rest or,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So that could be training clients, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be podcasts you might know. I mean, of course there

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<v Speaker 1>are other variables. But you can do three podcasts in

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<v Speaker 1>a morning and they all be pretty good because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got half an hour an hour between each. But by

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<v Speaker 1>lunchtime you've done three, they're good. But you probably can't

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<v Speaker 1>do six good ones, right because it's just it's mental

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<v Speaker 1>overload or physical overload, and you get angry and with

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<v Speaker 1>nobody he fucking wants that. That's terrifying. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>term I used to use for it, other than performance

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<v Speaker 1>threshold as shit threshold, and it's the same thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just means how many whatevers can you do, how

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<v Speaker 1>many hours, how many sessions, how many phone calls, how

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<v Speaker 1>many lawns can you mow, whatever it is that you

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<v Speaker 1>do before it turns to shit. And I used to

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<v Speaker 1>say to my trainers, figure out what that number is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then don't do more than that number, because people

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<v Speaker 1>don't deserve that people deserve if everyone's paying a premium price,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course we're human and all of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>as much as humanly possible, they need to get the

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<v Speaker 1>same level of quality each time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, otherways had a low number in terms of clients,

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<v Speaker 3>physical clients for that reason because I'm very like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very animated and very energetic, and I know that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I bring to the session. They're not there for me

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<v Speaker 3>to look at a clipboard and read ex is out

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<v Speaker 3>in monotone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, don't start me. Don't start me on fucking generic

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<v Speaker 1>personal trainers who don't actually prescribe exercise. You people, you

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<v Speaker 1>know who you are. You train all your clients the

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<v Speaker 1>same way. It's fucking so unprofessional, it's so inappropriate, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so dangerous, it's so lazy. Stop fucking doing it. It

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<v Speaker 1>just drives me nuts. You're being told, ah, fuck you

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<v Speaker 1>if you do that, you're not a personal trainer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>well you are, but you're a bad one. Like your

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<v Speaker 1>job is literally to prescribe people individual programs, exercises, experiences

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<v Speaker 1>based on a myriad of variables. And if you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. I don't want to throw anyone under the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>But even lately, I've seen people who would come to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, They'll be trained by a trainer. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>next person and who's nothing like the previous person, essentially

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<v Speaker 1>does the same workout, and then I'll see them another day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's like a complete another person doing essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the same workout. I'm like, this is not personalized prescription.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a generic program that you're comfortable with. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you go to the doctor. Ten people go to

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor for ten different reasons, and she gives them

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<v Speaker 1>all the same drug because she can't be fucked you're

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<v Speaker 1>all getting the blue pill. You're all getting predness alone.

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<v Speaker 1>What but I've got a headache. Oh yeah, but my

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<v Speaker 1>dick's falling off. Yeah but I've got heck and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, No, you're all getting this. It's ridiculous, But

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<v Speaker 1>that happens, you go go see it fucking annoying. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's about ninety eight percent of our listeners gone, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is completely irrelevant to me. You know, it's you

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<v Speaker 1>can apply that idea. Yeah, there's two percent going, oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>that's me. Well, I mean the idea of personal training

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's not the same as you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing the same thing as everyone. Ergo personal,

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<v Speaker 1>ergo the name. It's in the name. Otherwise it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>called generic training by Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>One on one generic training, boom, Yeah, one.

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<v Speaker 1>On one generic training. You're all getting the same workout. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm here for flexibility. Why am I bench pressing?

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<v Speaker 1>Shut the fuck up? Yeah, I'm here to become a powerlifter.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I dancing? Oh? Just and three two one step?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's like ah, anyway, steps down off high horse.

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<v Speaker 1>But so how do you manage that? Like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not having a good day, or were your energies three

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<v Speaker 1>or a four? Or your mindset's a three or four?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you're frustrated or because how do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>just soldier on? Or do you have a hack where

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<v Speaker 1>you can get yourself kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Back Because I'm I don't have a lot of back

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<v Speaker 3>to bout clients like they, you know, I normally have

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<v Speaker 3>two or three at a time and then that I'm done,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't overload myself, so I can normally get through.

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<v Speaker 2>And training is different.

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm podcasting and I'm sitting down, there's I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not playing a role.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not playing the trainer that's there to kick your

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<v Speaker 3>ass and teach your stuff and lift the mood and energy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't know that's not there, so I'd struggle more.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's cognitive, you know. It's that It's that not

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<v Speaker 3>being sharp, not getting a bit distracted in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>being just a bit fairy, bloody fairy, and then noticing

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<v Speaker 3>that and criticizing it. That's where I struggle the most.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's in the in the podcast more than the training.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very rare that I that I am The only

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<v Speaker 3>times I will struggle on personal training clients is if

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<v Speaker 3>they're in the afternoon and I'm and I'm really run down,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've only got two sessions that I run in

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<v Speaker 3>an afternoon for a group and they are super fun.

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<v Speaker 3>They normally just lift me up anyway, So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>thank God for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's I don't know, it's bloody tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean it's it's it's all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And it's I think you just and of

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<v Speaker 1>course people understand, like if you feel terrible, you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell people, but you can't you know them down well,

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<v Speaker 1>you want that to be the exception, not the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I would rather not see someone than bring

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<v Speaker 1>my bad day to them, do you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want to inflict me on you

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, because it ate your job to pick

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<v Speaker 1>me up. Now, I'm talking about in a professional capacity here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about friendship. Yeah, you know. And the

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of just because I've done so much right

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<v Speaker 1>and even though it's a very small percentage, maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>or two percent of the time, but because I've done

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<v Speaker 1>so many sessions and talks, still ends up being quite

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<v Speaker 1>a number of sessions where like I remember, I've told

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<v Speaker 1>this once, I think on the show. But one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty years ago, when I had a girlfriend when

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't old and weird and hermity, Me and the

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<v Speaker 1>aforementioned girlfriend had been having all night conversation about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the challenges, right, and it was just that's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only ever done that once in my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was that night right where it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was going around in circles and anyway. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>very it wasn't to but it wasn't a great it

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<v Speaker 1>was anyway. So I literally had about maybe thirty minutes sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had fifteen appointments. I had six am

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<v Speaker 1>to nine pm, back to back one hour sessions or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe fourteen or thirty. And this is back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day when I was young. I used to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like a weapon, Like I could do lots and

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots, and there would be you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>I owned my own business, I would sometimes which it

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<v Speaker 1>seems inappropriate, but in the context it was fine. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>eat my lunch while I was training someone, but it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, like i'd have a protein bar or

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of and it'd always be with someone

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<v Speaker 1>that I knew well and they're fine with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>i'd do a workout with a clientel. But I remember

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<v Speaker 1>just I didn't even want to turn up for the

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<v Speaker 1>first person, like, I was emotionally drained, I was exhausted,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sad, I was anxio. I was the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of what you need to be to do that job well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just remember thinking, the last thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is to be an inspiration to anyone. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to fucking cuddle. I just want to I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to lie in front of the fire, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And and I guess I could have canceled everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was my business and it was new and

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<v Speaker 1>I was yeah, but that's you know, I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of no, I just got through it. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the context of real world problems, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>had one cancelation, so maybe I slept for thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the context of you know, somebody having cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody being in a bloody war zone, or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>not having clean drinking water, these are these are not

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<v Speaker 1>problems at all. But you know, the reality is like

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<v Speaker 1>for us as individuals, whatever it is, hard for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is hard for you? Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this morning I woke up forty three, so I

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<v Speaker 3>had a real turbulence sleep lately and went to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>reasonable hour. Woke up at two forty three, wide awake,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, ah, today was this today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And this has been happening a bit lately, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, here we go a big day tomorrow. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got clients early, got it up at that time, did

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<v Speaker 3>not go back to sleep at all, and then and

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought I'm gonna be rake. You know when

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<v Speaker 3>you feel really awake and then six am comes, just

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<v Speaker 3>before the alarm turns off, you just doze off and

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<v Speaker 3>then you wake up and you feel like ass. I

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<v Speaker 3>was waiting for that to happen. It didn't happen. But

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<v Speaker 3>I played music, positive music. I listened to some shit

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<v Speaker 3>to get like I just I put so much effort

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<v Speaker 3>into changing my state because I was like, okay, because

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<v Speaker 3>this is because this is happening frequently. At the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>this becomes a story real easy, and I can either

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<v Speaker 3>drag my fucking bottom lip all the way to the

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<v Speaker 3>gym and drag that story in. But like I put

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<v Speaker 3>yeah and I've been good all day, still been it's good,

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<v Speaker 3>not like not sharp, not good on cognitively, but.

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<v Speaker 1>But emotionally you've been all right, Like you're not walking

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<v Speaker 1>around SADDI mac sad stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah No, And weirdly haven't haven't crashed yet four you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fourth thirty, We haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't had a nap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's I mean, you know, peaks and troughs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's trying to figure out in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of all of that too, which we're always talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's the best operating system for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing you know, like I guess a good idea for

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight if you could would be to go to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep at eight o'clock, if that was an opportunity or

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. You know, it's like I like I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm up to my eyeballs at the moment in kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the run home to what's called submission where you

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<v Speaker 1>submit all your work for your PhD. So but there's

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<v Speaker 1>still a lot of work to do. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>that if I do it somewhere around eight am till

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<v Speaker 1>midday or not that that's the totality of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>for that particular cognitive task, which is not a fun task.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm much better in the morning. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes that I've been making is, you know, doing other

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<v Speaker 1>shit and then starting my PhD at four. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>and going, I'll just do this between four and ten

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and it just doesn't work. It does, but

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<v Speaker 1>for other people it does. Like there are other people,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know from pH three sixty, where like later

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<v Speaker 1>in the day they come alive. But for fatty harps

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<v Speaker 1>like my brain. In fact, it's funny because for that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cognitive load, that kind of work, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of task where it is real intense focus and problem

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<v Speaker 1>solving and trying to understand stuff, for me, it's earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. But there's things like this where it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that kind of work, you know, it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of brain work where I'm just banging on with

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<v Speaker 1>you and I'm quite present and I'm not saying this

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<v Speaker 1>is the world's best podcast or the world's best episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I find this easy, but I don't find the

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff easy, you know. So I think it's figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out your own timing with everything from training to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, food to you know, cognitive performance.

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<v Speaker 3>I have found it really hard finding that window of

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<v Speaker 3>time in now that I'm doing a course and doing

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<v Speaker 3>some study and some thinking and some creating, I'm finding

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<v Speaker 3>that really difficult, especially with what's going on with a

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<v Speaker 3>lack of sleep and everything. At the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit like you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm good in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 2>I simp this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got something popped up on my socials the

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<v Speaker 3>other day about body doubling. Was on an ADHD page

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<v Speaker 3>and I sent it to my mate and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a thing, and that just had these things

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<v Speaker 3>about having a body double in the room, like just

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<v Speaker 3>a person in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>While you work, and I was thinking about it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so me, Like I need.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. I don't understand. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>having a person in the room, a body double.

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<v Speaker 3>Just having a person there next to you and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing the work, and then you do work together

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<v Speaker 3>and then like it's like your focus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Get oh, I don't get what do you mean a

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<v Speaker 1>body double though? Are you Are you talking about an

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<v Speaker 1>imaginary thing or an actual person?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Like I mean just a person, a real person

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<v Speaker 2>in the room with you, like you're in a classroom,

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<v Speaker 2>or like you're in a group.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that called a body double?

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<v Speaker 2>I just was on the Fuck Ups.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm curious. I've never heard the term. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to find the creator of the the reel

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<v Speaker 2>now and send it to you so you can find Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point is you're saying, if you're doing something

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<v Speaker 1>but somebody in the room, there's someone in the room

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<v Speaker 1>with you doing a similar something or also working, you're

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<v Speaker 1>more productive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, Yeah, I think I've focus better if I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm doing things with someone. That's why I gets

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<v Speaker 3>so in my head or so distracted with things. So

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<v Speaker 3>I got we're doing this now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so I similar to that, right, if I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do typ work or I've got a bunch

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of work coming up with conferences, corporate stuff and then

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 1>public stuff. By the way, everyone, we're launching some public

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 1>workshops soon. We're coming to everywhere except Canberra because Tip

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:50.240
<v Speaker 1>said it's no good. Then yeah, no, I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where we're going. I actually like Canberra and I've

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<v Speaker 1>done workshops there before. But if Melissa's got to do

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<v Speaker 1>some you know, typ stuff corp stuff like events stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>business stuff, and I've got to do stuff. Quite often,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just jump on zoom and we'll do we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it together where we're just working through

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<v Speaker 1>something and I'm typing, she's typing. Her head's on the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>My head's on her screen. I'm like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think of this? Okay? So when should we launch that?

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 1>She's like, have you written a copy for that? I'm like, no,

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 1>when do you need the copy by? I go, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we how much money are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend on that? What do you think? Blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you think we could go with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think okay, what do you think the price

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<v Speaker 1>point is for that? Should we do an early bird off?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you think? You know all this stuff? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're going to go to Perth alright, so

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to like try and get two hundred

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.439
<v Speaker 1>bums on seats or five hundred bums on seats? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think? And what venues do you think? And

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<v Speaker 1>like just all of that and we get ten hours

0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of work done in and out? What do you laugh at? So?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all got the point about ten minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep going, Oh, that's very rude. Too many examples.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I got it, I've got it now. You just

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<v Speaker 2>nailed it at the end. I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up. I don't like you anymore. You know my friend,

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>my friend. You can't be my friend anymore. That's it, everybody. Hey,

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I need a new friend. Just apply the project facebook page.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be my friend. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>replace Tiff, there's an opening. She's shit. She's a shit friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes me feel bad just because she woke up at

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<v Speaker 1>two forty three. She's decided to be a you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? She's being one of them one of

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<v Speaker 1>the words I can't say on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, Oh, dear, choke.

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<v Speaker 1>On your chicken. I hape your choke on your chicken breast.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a chicken breast tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Clear? I hope you choke on it. I don't really. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>don't send me an email. All right? Well, so are

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<v Speaker 1>you saying I'm a little bit verbose? Are you reinforcing

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<v Speaker 1>what sister Catherine said in grade four?

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<v Speaker 2>Got there and nailed it, And you've got a body double.

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<v Speaker 2>You and Melissa a body doubling to get your work done.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand the relationship between the concept and

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<v Speaker 1>the term, but okay, I'll take it. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, like to that point, there's a guy called Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Alex. I'm going to say Alex, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he can listen to himself on the podcast. Alex

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<v Speaker 1>sits at the cafe every morning about fifteen feet from me.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alex is an investor in the stock market. Like

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that's his job, is the stock market. Like I've got

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. I wouldn't know a share from a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>desert boot from a banana, right, so I don't. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's his and he's a genius at it, and I

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>think he does very well at it. But he lives

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in the apartments right next to the cafe. But every

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<v Speaker 1>morning when I get there at stupid o'clock, he's already there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he sits there with his computer, sits there with

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>his phone, he's got earphones in and he's working. And

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>he also often has this like spiral bound book or

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 1>this little diary where he's writing with a pen in

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that he's working on his computer, and he'll be there

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>before me and after me. So he's there for hours

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 1>and then sometimes not often, I go back in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the day to get a coffee and he's

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>still there and I go, have you been here since

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>six o'clock? He goes, nah, I went and worked out

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 1>and I came back. So he literally lives thirty meters

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 1>from that table. But he's much more productive in the

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>middle of Mayhem than sitting in his apartment by himself,

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like beautiful apartment. He's like, yeah, I need I need stimulus.

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I need stimuli around me. And it's funny. You would

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>think that that would not be good for focus or

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>attention or productivity or efficiency because there's so much shit

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>going on, But like, I'm quite productive in the morning too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do a bit of work, then I say

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<v Speaker 1>low to someone, then they go. Then I do more

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.959
<v Speaker 1>work than someone else, and then yeah, it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be me sitting there completely engrossed in something for five hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically ain't happening when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was walking sometime this week I can't remember, when I

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<v Speaker 3>was going out for a walk and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about content and stuff that I had to plan and create,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was listening to a podcast. And when I'm

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 3>moving my legs and listening to a podcast. Part of

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 3>my brain works fucking perfectly for thinking and creating and

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 3>coming up with ideas and planning, And I'm like, how

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 3>can that be happening when I'm doing all these other things?

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>And then I come and I sit the computer, and

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, right, all that amazing stuff and everything just

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 3>shuts down. And I'll find it weird that I can

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 3>listen to a conversation and then have another method of

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<v Speaker 3>thought happening in my brain creating an idea at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so weird to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's often the way I mean, you think

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>about like developing your show, coming up with ideas and thoughts, stories,

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>messages that are relevant but also interesting, and that is cognitive,

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's more creative, right, And I think, I mean,

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>there's I think there's a bit of evidence to suggest

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that when we're moving we're more creative. And you know, yeah,

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you come back, you sit at your computer and it's

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>like a creative desert. There's just nothing going on. I

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>need to move, you know. It's like I feel like

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I have which is probably not true, but I seem

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to have really good ideas in the shower and the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of times I get out of the shower wet

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and then write something because I have a big whiteboard

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<v Speaker 1>in my room because I'm a weirdo in my bedroom

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and I get out wet and I just write this

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<v Speaker 1>thing on these ideas on the whiteboard before I forget it,

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<v Speaker 1>or before I forget that. It's like I might have

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<v Speaker 1>two or three or four lines which are the start

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of a post, but if I don't get them out

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<v Speaker 1>of my head and onto paper or onto a whiteboard

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<v Speaker 1>or onto a computer screen, they vanish.

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<v Speaker 2>See I've done that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take notes when I'm out, and then i'll get

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 3>back and still I'll look at.

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<v Speaker 2>The notes and go, so, yeah, right, what was your

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 2>big idea, mate? What's so profound?

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 3>I'll think, Oh, that's really that's just interesting. I'm going

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 3>to record a podcast on that when I get home.

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>That's really interesting thought process. And then I have my

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>little notes and I read them and I'm like, what's

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 3>your point, cookie, it's a big idea here?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what a trojan horse is?

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Something that gets on your computer when.

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<v Speaker 1>You Okay, so no, not that not the virus. So

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the original idea and I should have looked this up

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>before I so for all of the historians who were

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>more have better recall than me. But so the idea

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't even remember who it was. But you know,

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>one one kind of war LORDI dude, he built basically

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<v Speaker 1>this great, big, huge, as big as my house timber horse,

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 1>which was beautiful and amazing and it was on wheels,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and he bought it kind of as a he made it,

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and he built it to this ruler king whatever as

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<v Speaker 1>a gift, as an offering to you know, and the

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>king the other dude was like, oh great, I know

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm mangling this everyone so o emami. But anyway, they

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>opened the gates and they wieled in this big, beautiful

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>present of this ginormous timber horse, which was majestic and

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>all of that. But inside the timber horse were a

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of his soldiers and warriors who came out, and

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that was how they got inside the walls of this

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>compound to then attack the people in there. Right. So

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that's called a trojan horse when you go in kind

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>of under the guise of oh, look we're doing this

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>nice thing or we're doing this thing, but really we're

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>actually doing something else. Right, And I was thinking about

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this idea of psychological trojan horses. Now this is how

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>my mind works, right, I'm like, how do I share

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>human behavior and psychology and you know, all the shit

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>about theory of mind and metacognition and all these kind

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of dry, boring ideas in a kind of a psychological

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>or cognitive or conversational trojan horse. And so you tell

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>stories or you use humor and you think about like, really,

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, the you project is about you know,

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>it's about how do we think better, do better, be better,

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>create better. It's about the human experience. It's about your mind,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it's about your body, it's about your potential. It's about

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>all of those things. But then how do we get

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to that, Like what's the between the intro and getting

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to that point where? And so often it's about like,

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you've told stories today, you woke up at two forty three.

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I've told stories which you shut down like a motherfucker

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>about how Melissa and I work, which apparently I talk

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>too long and it was incredibly fucking boring and you

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>should have put a time out signal in front. No

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>thanks for that back in therapy for fatty harps. But anyway,

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, this is how we get to the

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>point of, oh, how do we talk about these interesting

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>things like performing under pressure, and how did we talk

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>about like trying to work at an eight or a

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>nine out of ten when you feel like a three. Well,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you tell stories, right, because this is part of the

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>human experience is you're going to have days where you

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like shit, but the reality of the day is

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you've still got to show up, you know. So yeah,

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>for me, that's that kind of conversational trojan horse where

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't stand on a stage and go all right, everybody,

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you about your mind. You know,

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I just go, hey, put up your hand if you're

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>an overthinker, and everyone goes, oh fuck, their hand goes

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>up and they go me and I go, how's that

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>working out for you? And they all laugh, and you know,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I go, it's exhausting, isn't it. And then so we

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>have fun and we have interaction, and I'm telling a story.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And then but I'm opening the door on this really

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>important issue is the relationship between anxiety and fear and

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>overthinking and self sabotage and all of these interesting things

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 1>that you need to kind of kind of get in

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the trojan horse and surprise them, you know, by ah, look,

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just telling you a story or being funny.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm teaching you something. But it's coming in a kind

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>of a conversational trojan horse.

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<v Speaker 3>I always leaned back on thinking about how like thinking

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>about boxing for me so lately because of that inner

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 3>voice that in a narrative beating the shit out of

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 3>me in the middle of podcast, telling me I'm pretty shit,

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and she'd just wrap it all up. And I think

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 3>about the stories I tell and the times when I

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 3>was sparring and doing the same thing and feeling like

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I was never getting better and I was shitty shit,

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 3>and then being told by my coach it was the

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 3>best session ever, and like the times that it just

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 3>but boxing always hurt. It was always hard, and it

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 3>wasn't overnight, and it was every day, and it was

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 3>fucking hard work, and I loved it anyway, Like it

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 3>was hard work all of the time. And after remind

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 3>myself of that when I'm doing what I do, that

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I chose to do, that I love to do, and

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 3>I chose it because I love it, and you've got

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 3>to do it every day and you get better and

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 3>better but it hurts and you get punched in the

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 3>face and in the middle of getting better and Betty,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>you tell yourself shitter and shitter at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, yeah, I mean choosing choosing to do the

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>thing that most people wouldn't do. They wouldn't make that choice.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And obviously we're not talking about reckless silly, but yeah,

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's you know, I mean, as we

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>say all the times, it's like consciously doing hard things,

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>doing hard things by choice. Like it's all cliche, but

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, go where you grow. That's like the

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>biggest cliche and self help, but it's kind of true,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Like what where do you build resilience? Well, not sitting

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>on the couch, not not taking the easy option, not

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>avoiding the decisions you know, you know, not by stuffing

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff into your body that's bad for your body, like

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you you're fucking killing yourself and sabotaging yourself, your own genetics,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>your own health, your own potential, you know, by not

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>trying anything, by you know, by letting your fear control you,

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. And yes, it's all easier said than done.

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And just me on a podcast, just saying shit doesn't

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>mean anything, right, but when you actually go, look, I'm

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>real scared, but I'm going to have a go great

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>like that now you've conquered some fear and that now

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you've been courageous, and you might fuck up, you might

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>fall down, you might win, you might learn something. It

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>could be a disaster, it could be good, it could

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>be somewhere in the middle. It could be a bit

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>of both. But you're probably not going to die. You're

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>probably going to learn something. You're probably going to develop

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>a better resilience and a bit of insight, and then

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you do better, Like when from the first time you

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>put on gloves to the best moment of your life

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>as a boxer was just like a long journey and

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you start off with no skill, no confidence, no awareness,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>no ring craft, no knowledge, no science, no fucking anything.

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>But nobody's ever started boxing career with twelve fights under

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>their belt. Nobody's ever started nobody's ever got into the

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>ring for the first time and been good. Yeah, like

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.839
<v Speaker 1>this is literally where you start. You start being bad,

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you start being inept, you start being unqualified, you start

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>being unskilled, you start being scared. Like that's the starting points,

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we can't move to like for people

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>who want mastery, well, fuck, mastery comes with miles and

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>lots and lots, and you want to be a master

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>at something. You want to be better than not anyone

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>else necessarily but maybe, but you want to be way

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>better than your current level in whatever it is. Will

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>then just keep working, Just keep working and stop looking

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.919
<v Speaker 1>for the magic pill you know, and go where you grow.

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I know it's cheesy, but all right, Well, I feel

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like you better have your chicken breast. I really hope

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't choke. I feel super bad if you do

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>so after you've consumed that, if you could send me

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a text say it's actually calm down, well, just make sure,

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>really make sure you chew well tonight, could you?

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I we'll do.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like your mum and dad

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>might be mad at me for a very long time

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>if I prophetically kind of announce your demise via a

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>chicken breast. What happened to Tiff? Well, you hear what

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Harp said. You put the on her? Yeah yeah, yeah,

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah she was chewing but ended up there was a

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>bone in there, and stop it. You'll be fine. You'll

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>be fine. Maybe just have some McNuggets instead, just to

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>be safe.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Al TIF, thank you, Thanks everyone,