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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, always

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Speaker 2: Hey cheeks, I'm Sald and I'm Al and this is

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Speaker 2: two Broke Chicks to show that shares life lessons and

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Speaker 2: tips to help make you rich in life. Al's pulling

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Speaker 2: faces at me and making me giggle and we're in

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Speaker 2: for a very good time in today's episode because we

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Speaker 2: were so lucky to be joined by the incredible and

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Speaker 2: amazing Sayer Sakaki Bara, the twenty five year old Australian

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Speaker 2: BMEX racer and gold medalist, and today we are chatting

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Speaker 2: to say about winning gold at the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: Paris Olympics, her tips to stay disciplined and overcoming hurdles

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Speaker 2: to achieve your dreams. It is such an inspiring chat

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Speaker 2: and we know you chicks are gonna love it, so

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Speaker 2: let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to two Broad Chicks.

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Speaker 4: Ayer, thanks so much for having me. We're so excited

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Speaker 4: to be studio. But before we.

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Speaker 2: Get into the juicy questions, we always ask our guests

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Speaker 2: their life lesson of the week, So.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to kick us off?

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Speaker 4: Sure? Life lesson of the week. Don't wish your time

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Speaker 4: away I like that, especially today actually, So I'm originally

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Speaker 4: from the Goldie and I came to Sydney for you guys.

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Speaker 4: And then also my manager like backed on a lot

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Speaker 4: of other things, like, for example, I was on Sunrise

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Speaker 4: this morning and then I have something after and I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I didn't have the best sleep, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it's tiring to meet new people and be on TV

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Speaker 4: and like show up as your best self all the time.

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Speaker 4: Then I was like, oh, I just want to go

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Speaker 4: just go back to training. I don't want to do

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Speaker 4: all this media stuff. But I was like, don't wish

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Speaker 4: your time away. I'm going to look back on this

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Speaker 4: experience to be like, why didn't I enjoy this so

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Speaker 4: much more? Because I would never kind of get this

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Speaker 4: Like I just I don't care about the results. I

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Speaker 4: But then what happened was at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: And at the end of the day I had a

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Speaker 4: sense of regret that I didn't wasn't in the moment

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Speaker 4: the end. So I was like, hey, don't wish your

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Speaker 4: time away. Be in the present moment and just give

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 5: It reminds me of this thing I read recently and

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Speaker 5: it was follow your plan and not the mood. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: go and do a media day or something like there's

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Speaker 5: don't want to do this and that it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: just don't wish the time away and follow your plan

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Speaker 5: do because you know how sometimes you just wake up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just wake up with that day. I don't

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Speaker 5: But I'm in a stinky mood, and I just have

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Speaker 5: to be like, no, you're gonna be you to have fun.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to You don't have to have fun.

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Speaker 4: Like it's still an experience that you're going to add

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Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, never wish your time away, whether

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Mine is a quote from the episode we did in

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Speaker 5: the Basic Bitch book Club recently, and we did Atomic

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Speaker 5: Habits in thirty Minutes, like the self help book that

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Speaker 5: like basically every Basic Bitch has read, hence the book

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Speaker 5: name and the episode. But there was a quote in it,

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Speaker 5: and I've been a massive like Suki Laala like this

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Speaker 5: Last week, but one of the quotes in it was

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Speaker 5: because it like I am a perfectionist in the way

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Speaker 5: you get older, you know how when you were younger

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Speaker 5: and you'd go for a job and you'd be like,

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Speaker 5: my downfall is that I'm a perfectionist, and you said

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Speaker 5: it's like a good thing about you, And as you

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Speaker 5: get older, you realize it's actually just exhausting and wanting

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Speaker 5: to be perfect everything is just completely unattainable and unreasonable

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Speaker 5: like quotes that kind of anchor me back and I'm like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: Like if I get wrapped up trying to make something

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Speaker 5: And that's one of the quotes that like, I'm sticking

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Speaker 3: Keeping that quote in my ass.

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Speaker 4: Imagine like yeah, it was usual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was doing the back pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I hate it here, I hated anyway.

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Speaker 1: That's mine.

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Speaker 4: Fuck you.

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Speaker 1: What's your life lesson?

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Speaker 3: That's good. My life lesson is a reminder to.

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Speaker 2: Do the things that future you will thank you for,

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Speaker 2: because at the end of last year, I was just

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Speaker 2: which part of that is good, but also I love

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Speaker 2: just doing little things like prepping my outfit the night

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Speaker 3: Around being like, oh, where's this, where's that?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever that is for you, I think that

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Speaker 3: But do the things that future you, well, thank.

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Speaker 4: You for that.

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Speaker 2: Usually you would put off because it's boring, but really

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Speaker 4: To do that absolutely to be like, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: And when you just like want to go to bed,

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Speaker 2: I was singing, I was laying in bed last night

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Speaker 3: Morning and then I was like.

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Speaker 2: No, no, and like when I got it and like

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Speaker 5: I think starting with that in terms of a prep

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Speaker 5: that is just put your clothes out the night before. Okay,

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Speaker 5: let's get into the episode because we have so many

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Speaker 5: questions for you. We are literally in awe of you

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Speaker 5: because you started writing BMX when you were four years old.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think I could write write.

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Speaker 3: Like were we riding bikes and we were four years old.

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Speaker 2: Definitely I had training wheels on them for actually I did,

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Speaker 2: and I would put my guinea pig in the It's

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Speaker 2: say is writing BMX and you're writing with a guinea

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing, honestly, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was born on the Gold Coast, but I

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Speaker 4: And also my dad would I'm pretty sure we had

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Speaker 4: I my whole life has There's has always been BMX

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: And because of course your brother Kai had a huge

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Speaker 2: obsession with BMX from a very young age as well.

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Speaker 2: And I've heard in interviews you said, you know, like

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Speaker 2: as a little sister, like, well, I just want to

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Speaker 2: do what he does, which as two younger siblings week

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Speaker 3: Did watching him with BMX inspire you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, like you said, it was just full whatever

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Speaker 4: he did, I did you know I didn't. I feel

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Speaker 3: He find that annoying or was he encouraging?

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Speaker 4: I think at the start, yeah, he found it annoying.

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Speaker 4: So like every time he put a sticker on his helmet,

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Speaker 4: always about going to the track. And then when we're

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Speaker 4: that moment. Yeah, and I'm sure you've had people on

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Speaker 4: here or talked about visualizations before of how powerful it is.

440
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: It costs nothing, just a little bit of your time

441
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Speaker 4: to really believe or just visualize what you want to achieve.

442
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: How do you want to feel in that moment? Really

443
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: visualize what you're hearing? Like I visualized standing at the

444
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Speaker 4: top of the podium, feeling the feeling the gold medal

445
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: around my neck, listening to the national anthem and crying.

446
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: I visualized all that and it literally happened. And I

447
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: was just like this moment of is this don't be

448
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Speaker 4: a dream?

449
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Speaker 5: Having your family there as well just would have been

450
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Speaker 5: the cherry on top of the cake.

451
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Speaker 4: It really was. It really was, And you know you

452
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Speaker 4: had have you heard of people talk about best things

453
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 4: that never happened to them? Some people who talk about

454
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: how like they wanted to achieve something and they didn't

455
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 4: get it, but then it led them down a different path,

456
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: which is even better than what they could have achieved.

457
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Speaker 4: So for Tokyo Games, that was the best thing that

458
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Speaker 4: never happened to me. Back in twenty twenty one, where

459
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Speaker 4: you know, there was a lot of media around my

460
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Speaker 4: debut at the Olympic Games. KaiA only had that crash

461
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Speaker 4: only a year before. There was a lot of pressure

462
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Speaker 4: I wanted to like finish the story, like how co

463
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Speaker 4: would it be.

464
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Speaker 5: So much pressure to put on yourself and like obviously

465
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Speaker 5: there's a lot of external pressure as well.

466
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Speaker 4: I was just so devastated, But but I'm so glad

467
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: it happened that way because winning Paris is just beyond

468
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Speaker 4: what I could have imagined. So having my parents and

469
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Speaker 4: my family their track side, like they weren't able to

470
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Speaker 4: be there in Tokyo, So if I won there, there

471
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been this special moment where we were like

472
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Speaker 4: hugging as a circle after the podium and I'm crying

473
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Speaker 4: and h and I just want to relive that moment.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, put it in a bottle and just keep it.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so beautiful and your post race interview is,

476
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Speaker 2: oh my god, I just feel like every Australian was

477
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Speaker 2: like crying, like laughing along with you, like.

478
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Speaker 3: It was just amazing, Like what a special moment.

479
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Speaker 4: I'm still it's still like a pinch yourself moment. Yeah.

480
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Speaker 4: Of how everything just came together at the right time.

481
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Speaker 4: It was almost like fate. I don't know, there had.

482
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Speaker 1: To be something, Yes, one hundred.

483
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Speaker 4: Percent, there has to be something that everything like everything, yeah, yeah, yeah,

484
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Speaker 4: I'm still like did that even happen? There was just

485
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: like little things that like you know, for example, my

486
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: race number is seventy seven and I have that because

487
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 4: it was Kai's number. So a race with that number,

488
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Speaker 4: and the next day there was a newspaper article with

489
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Speaker 4: so there was three gold medals won by an Australian

490
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Speaker 4: on that day. And then i was the seventy seventh

491
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Speaker 4: minute and I'm like.

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Speaker 5: Oh, what my god, what is it like because obviously BAMX,

493
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Speaker 5: the race is like thirty to forty.

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Speaker 3: Seconds correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: What is going through your brain during thirty to forty seconds?

496
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Speaker 4: No thinking? Really, it's all instinctual. So the hours we

497
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Speaker 4: spend on the bike and training is so when you're

498
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Speaker 4: at the top of the start, heell like you don't

499
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Speaker 4: think about anything but just going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you shut it down? Like what's like

501
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Speaker 5: the mantra? Because obviously you get to a point you're

502
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Speaker 5: going up there, you're thinking or thinking, how do you

503
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Speaker 5: quiet your brain into getting into the zone.

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Speaker 4: It was practice, Yeah, I practiced getting into the zone.

505
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 4: I practiced what am I going to be saying to

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Speaker 4: myself as I was walking up to the start heill,

507
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Speaker 4: and what am I going to be saying to myself

508
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 4: when So at the start of the race, there's a

509
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Speaker 4: camera that comes to if they introduce each rider, they

510
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Speaker 4: come to you, your wave, whatever, and then there was

511
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Speaker 4: a big, like twenty second gap between they when they

512
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Speaker 4: called out my name and then when they started the call.

513
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Speaker 4: So twenty seconds doesn't sound like much, but if you're right,

514
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Speaker 4: if you're at the top of the start hell and

515
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Speaker 4: you know you're about to do an Olympic final, you

516
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Speaker 4: have a million thoughts going through you ahead. So I

517
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Speaker 4: had to really focus on like what am I gonna

518
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Speaker 4: be thinking during that time, and most most of it

519
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: was just like just effing go just eff I'm just

520
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: gonnaff I'm just gonna go stuff these girls. I'm just

521
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: gonna go it was just literally just bringing myself to like,

522
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Speaker 4: I don't care what happens. I'm just gonna go. I'm

523
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: not gonna walk away here like having pulled the brakes

524
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: or not having hesitated for some reason. I'm like, I'm

525
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: just gonna go. If I crash, I don't care. I'm

526
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: just gonna he's gonna go. So that was my internal monologue.

527
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: But then once the race starts, it's all instinctual. I've

528
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: done that lap so many times in my head and

529
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: as writing as well physically, so my body knew what

530
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Speaker 4: to do. When you start thinking is when you're in trouble.

531
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Speaker 4: When so I started thinking going into like the last corner,

532
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Speaker 4: like the last straight, I was like, oh, gold medal,

533
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Speaker 4: Oh don't stuff up, Just don't stuff up, because I

534
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: knew that I had a little bit of I could

535
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Speaker 4: sense that I had a bit of room between myself

536
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Speaker 4: and the girl and second, so I was like, just

537
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Speaker 4: don't stuff up. But that was probably the like the

538
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Speaker 4: slowest last strait that I'd done that whole campaign, because

539
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 4: I was thinking, Yeah, it's just about getting out of

540
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 4: your own head, getting out of your own way, and

541
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Speaker 4: just letting what you trained your body to do I

542
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Speaker 4: love that you can. Also, this is where the visualization

543
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 4: kind of comes in. You can almost visualize like the

544
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Speaker 4: work room that you're going to present in and be like, Okay,

545
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: I know that there's an air con in here. Every

546
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: time I look at the air con, I'm going to

547
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, I can do this. I love the

548
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: games too.

549
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Speaker 5: Well.

550
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Speaker 4: I knew that there was like a telegraph pole just

551
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Speaker 4: I was as I was walking up, and like, every

552
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: time I see that telegraph pole, I'm gonna smile and

553
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: be like, how cool it is that I'm here. How

554
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: cool is it that I get to be at the

555
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: Olympic Games and I get to race?

556
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Speaker 1: That is an amazing tip.

557
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: I love that.

558
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: But you have to be intentional. Yeah, but you have

559
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: to do it.

560
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Speaker 3: Prepare these things.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

562
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Speaker 1: It doesn't going to do that in my day to

563
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Speaker 1: day life. Yeah.

564
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Speaker 2: So a popular question that we got from the Chicks

565
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Speaker 2: was around consistency. Do you have any tips for staying

566
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Speaker 2: consistent and being disciplined?

567
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Speaker 4: Don't rely on motivation, I would say would be the

568
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: biggest one. Motivation I think is a scam because it's

569
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: just a feeling, just like happiness, sadness, anger, and it's

570
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: just going to pass. At some point you have this

571
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: spark of motivation, you feel motivated, and then it's going

572
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: to go. So if you keep relying on motivation, sometimes

573
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: it will be here and sometimes it won't, so it

574
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: will never be consistent. So number one is, don't rely

575
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Speaker 4: on motivation. But so and then the first thing is

576
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Speaker 4: to decide what you want when you want to go,

577
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: what do you want to achieve, and then you decide

578
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: on how you're going to get there every day, So

579
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Speaker 4: for me, I want to win the Olympic Games. Second

580
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Speaker 4: is I'm going to train, do this, this, this, make

581
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Speaker 4: a plan of how to get there. And then the

582
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Speaker 4: third one is every day you wake up and you

583
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Speaker 4: decide that you're going to do it, no matter how

584
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Speaker 4: how motivated or not you feel, you just do it.

585
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Speaker 5: I love that motivation is how often do you train?

586
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Speaker 1: What's it look like?

587
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Speaker 4: So train usually five days a week, so I get

588
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Speaker 4: two days of rest and one to two times a

589
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: day and it arranges around one to two hours per session.

590
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Speaker 4: The track sessions could be two to three hours actually

591
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Speaker 4: depending But yeah, I think what a lot of people

592
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: don't understand is the rest compose as well. And that's

593
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: something I'm also starting to understand how important it is

594
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: to rest so I can be the best that I

595
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: can be in training, so I get the most out

596
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Speaker 4: of my time. And I think that's probably a good

597
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: message to everyone really, like you do need to rest.

598
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: You can't be doing all this stuff all the time

599
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: because the quality of work that you're outputting is is

600
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Speaker 4: decreasing each time you show up tired, each time you

601
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Speaker 4: show up burnt out. Rest, I think is just as

602
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Speaker 4: important as the work that you put out.

603
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you said that, it's something that you're adjusting to.

604
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Speaker 5: Do you ever feel like you feel bad for resting.

605
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes?

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

607
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: How do you overcome that because it's obviously not rest

609
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Speaker 5: if you feel bad about.

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Speaker 4: It, Yeah, exactly. I think it's the shift in mindset.

611
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Speaker 4: So when I feel bad about resting, I think about

612
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Speaker 4: why I'm resting.

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Speaker 1: That's a great reason.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

615
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Speaker 4: And for example, if I had an opportunity to go

616
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Speaker 4: to the markets with my friend, which is quite tiring,

617
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Speaker 4: and I could do it, I could do it on

618
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Speaker 4: my rest day. I don't have training, but I'm doing

619
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Speaker 4: something tiring rather than resting, which makes me a bit

620
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Speaker 4: like it makes me but it's like quality time with friends.

621
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Speaker 4: So it makes me feel bad, but I'm like, well,

622
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: what's my priority. I'm trying to win gold medal, so

623
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Speaker 4: I'm putting my energy into that and I'm resting for that.

624
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: You have you can't have it with everything.

625
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Speaker 3: Damn your rest can have purpose.

626
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's amazing.

627
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Speaker 5: And our final question, so with our guests, we always

628
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: wrap up with the same question, and it's what has

629
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Speaker 5: been your biggest life lessons so far.

630
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Speaker 4: There's a few ways of saying it, I guess, but

631
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: it's like you can't you need to do you need

632
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: to do hard things to achieve great things, or you

633
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: can't be comfortable and grow at the same time. It's like,

634
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: damn it. Yeah that's true. Yeah, but yeah, like the

635
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: harder the thing, the bigger the reward. You know, Like,

636
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: what do I mean by hard things? It means like

637
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: physically pushing your body, It means sacrificing on friend time

638
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: or family time. It means you know, feeling scared. It

639
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 4: means you know, feeling desperate or feeling uncertain. I don't

640
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: want to do this, blah blah blah. But you need

641
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: to go through those things to achieve amazing things.

642
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're so amazing. I'm honestly in awe of you.

643
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: Like your story and everything you've achieved and the wisdom

644
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: you have to share is just so inspiring. And obviously

645
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: I'm sure you've heard this so many times, but you

646
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 5: should just be so incredibly proud of yourself because I

647
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 5: know there are people that have never even met you

648
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 5: that feel that way. And Yeah, you're just incredible, and

649
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: thank you so much for joining us today.

650
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Speaker 4: Thank you, and we actually got I loved it.

651
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, chat in person, And obviously you have a lot

652
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Speaker 2: to look forward to.

653
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: So where can we see you next? What's coming up?

654
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually writing a book.

655
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, A little.

656
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: Bit of an announcement, I guess writing a book coming

657
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: out in November, just about basically what we've talked about,

658
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Speaker 4: a bit more in depth of like how like what

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Speaker 4: it really took to win that gold medal, why it

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Speaker 4: meant so much to me while I was bawling my

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Speaker 4: eyes out uncontrollably, and also a little bit of context

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Speaker 4: of like why like how I grew up and you know,

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Speaker 4: a bit of the store with me and Kai, And

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Speaker 4: I think I really hope that this book would be

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Speaker 4: just like something that people can take little nuggets of

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Speaker 4: wisdom and lessons out of my story of what I

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Speaker 4: learned a long way. It's definitely not a five step

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Speaker 4: plan of becoming the best in the world or being

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Speaker 4: an Olympic champion, unfortunately, and then kind of also understanding

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Speaker 4: that there is no secret. You just have to put

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Speaker 4: one step in front of the other and just do

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Speaker 4: what feels right for you and don't give up. I

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Speaker 4: can't wait to read it. Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: That is a rap. Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 1: us in your ear holes.

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Speaker 4: Chicks. We live to be here.

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Speaker 5: And if you know someone that you think would also

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Speaker 5: enjoy this episode, feel free to chuck them a link,

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Speaker 5: chuck it in the group chat, and thank you tom

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Speaker 5: Ike Made for making this episode happen.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Love you, love Sale, Love.

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Speaker 1: The Chicks, Go back.

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Speaker 2: Bye Chicks, Bat and a Fast