1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: From the newsroom and news to come today. Good day there. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Bucklow, and I'll tell you what. There's a 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: couple of big verdicts set to be handed down this week. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: In the US Sean Diddy Combs, he's waiting to learn 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: his fate. He's facing life in prison if found guilty 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: of racketeering and sex trafficking. And then in Victoria, the 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: jury is deliberating in the mushroom murder trial. I can't 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: wait to see what happens there. You can stay up 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: to date on both cases at news dot com at 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: dot au. Now there's a pretty fascinating article on our 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: site today about coffee. Yes, coffee. A doctor has come 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: out and said that a lot of us are making 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: a huge mistake in regards to when we have our 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: first cup of the day. We're gonna chat to him 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: in just a moment to find out more. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: I think coffee is the most important part of a 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: human's life. 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Really. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, you can't get me, they agree. 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: When you get to the end of this life, before 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: we move to whatever is next, I think it's quite 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: possible your last thought will be that was good coffee, 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: That good everything. After my morning coffee was pretty much 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: a pain in the ass. The coffee was It was 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: good because it's the only thing in your life that's 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: one on your side every day, every cup. Come on, 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: let's go, me and you we can do this. 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, only cough coffee is there? Jerry Seinfeld 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: there on Jimmy Fallon Show talking about coffee, which, fun fact, 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: is the second most traded commodity in the world behind 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: crude oil, with more than two billion cups consumed every day. 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Wild huh. If you're more wild facts, well, buckle up 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: for today's guest. He specializes in preventative health and wellness 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: and runs a series of clinics throughout Australia called Concierge Doctors. 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: It is doctor Zach Turner. 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: Good eight, good ay, and thank you for having me. 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Not a problem at all. You have written an article 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: for US dot com dot a U. It's live right now. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: It's about the huge coffee mistake a lot of us make, 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: including me. I have a coffee first thing about ten 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: minutes after I wake up. According to your article, doctor Zach, 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: that is bad. 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: How come it is bad for a number of reasons. 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: So one coffee does a couple of different things. It's 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: kind of like putting the accelerator on in your car 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 4: and at the same time releasing the break. So there's 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: a couple of different things caffeine does. So one, we 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: all have that feeling where it's like, oh, okay, I feel stimulated, 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: I feel a bit more alert. Some people have that 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: a little bit more. The other thing it also does 51 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: is it suppresses the fatigue, so it releases the break 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: on the excitement. Okay, first thing in the morning. Though, 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: what happens is the part that stimulates us works, But 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: you're actually missing out on at least half of what 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 4: caffeine does, which is the part where it releases the break. 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: The break in this case is called a denizine. A 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: denizine is what builds up when we burn energy throughout 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: the da I'm sure everyone has heard of like ATP 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: or even NAD plus or different terms in this wellness space, 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: and one of those things is a denozine. It's a 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: denozine triphosphate is ATP, and that's what our body uses. 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 4: This is a little molecule to produce energy and once 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: we've used it once. The first word of that, a 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: denozine basically builds up in this little reservoir, and as 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 4: it builds up in the day, it causes you to 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: feel more and more tired. Right, So that coffee first 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: thing in the morning, it is, can be really good. 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: It can be really good if it's later in the day, 69 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: first up in the day. I think it's far better 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: for people to be putting healthy things into their stomachs, 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: healthy things to wake themselves up properly, so that as 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: your body gets moving a bit better, that's when the 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: best time to have coffee is. 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: What if we're going to the gym first thing, though, 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: because we all like a little bit of coffee before 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: going for our weight sessh, what about in that instance, 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: is it okay to have a coffee first thing? 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: I generally think it's best to be waking up. My 79 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: generally routine when I talk to patients is get up, 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: have a big glass of water first, okay, first up. 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: Then over the next twenty to thirty minutes, try and 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: get some tea and some other things into you. 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: Because if you think about your. 84 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: Little cells and your gut, I have to think of 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 4: them like I guess little I'd like to think of 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: our stomach and our sleep system as puppies or toddlers. 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: Think of them as little babies that they like consistency. 88 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: They don't like to have changes in their routine. They 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: like a little bit of love and care. And if 90 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: you wake up your puppy first thing in the morning 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: and just throw a douse it in coffee, it's probably 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: going to go w It's gonna be great for a 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 4: little and then it's going to burn itself out and crash. 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: And what happens is is if you're having too much coffee, 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: you're putting too much pedal I guess, or to the 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: metal as in gas, and going too fast with the accelerator, 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: and there's no release of the break. And so what 98 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: happens is is that you will kind of like having 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: a whole lot of sugar, You'll basically burn out those 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: little receptors and they're going to be used for the 101 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: for the next several hours, and so you're not going 102 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: to get the effect after the gym when you're actually 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: feeling tired when you're waking up in the morning. Ideal, 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's great to have all of the 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: different amino acids and things like that, but if you're 106 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 4: relying on the coffee. I think you're probably actually lying 107 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: to yourself. I actually think that this is more of 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: a habit and a routine than you actually needing the 109 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: caffeine to do your workout. 110 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Good call. All right, well, doctor Zech, when is the 111 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: smarter time to have our first coffee of the day? 112 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 4: Then generally when you so, I guess. And the other 113 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: part to this is if you have it first thing 114 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: in the morning, if you think, look, I've got a 115 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: quota of two coffees a day that are going to 116 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 4: be useful, and it's going to be much less useful 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: later in the day if I have one earlier. I mean, yes, yes, 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: it's comforting to have to have that early whining coffee. 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: But if you are going to annul the coffee letter 120 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: in the day, I think people will start to think 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: about it a little bit differently. The best time to 122 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: have the coffee, generally is when you're building up that adnizine, 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: so that adnizine will keep building up. So if you've 124 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: been to the gym post that workout, you have done 125 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: a whole lot of things requiring energy, requiring that atp 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: and that adnizine is going to be building up drastically, 127 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: So it's going to be much more important to have 128 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: your coffee break at late late morning eleven AM and 129 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: or in the early afternoon after you've eaten, after you've 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: done a whole lot of different exercises and things throughout 131 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: the day, and you're starting to get fatigued again. And 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: that's partly because that adnizine builds up and coffee blocks 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: the adenizine feeling, so for that couple of hours it 134 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 4: blocks it. But interesting fact, in a whole lot of 135 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: clinical trials they've looked at half an apple or a 136 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: carrot and they've had nearly identical results whilst they've been 137 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: eating those carrots and things to the same as coffee. 138 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Wow, and that's a hell of a lot cheaper than 139 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: the coffee these days as well. 140 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: Much cheaper and much more crunchy. And just think crunching 141 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: on a carrot is going to keep you awake and 142 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: whoever you're sitting next to awake. 143 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Stick around in just a moment, Well, ask doctor Zak 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: how many cups of coffee we should be drinking each day. 145 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back, I am chatting to doctor Zach Turner about 146 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: the big coffee mistake. A lot of us are making, 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: which is having a coffee first thing in the morning. 148 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Don't do it. It's bad, okay, doctor Zach. How many coffees 149 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: is it okay for us to drink each day? 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: I have two? 151 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Could I be having more? 152 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: Some people do like more. 153 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: I have a rule of thumb that if you can 154 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: have five hundred miles of water between each coffee, I 155 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: don't really mind how many coffees you're having in the 156 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: morning slash before one or two pm. That's because coffee 157 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: will for a lot for some people. Some people have 158 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: said that they don't get affected by their sleep. 159 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: It's very difficult. 160 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: And I'm one of those people that also says, look, 161 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: I feel like I can have a coffee go straight 162 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: to sleep. Even if you're one of those people like 163 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 4: me that say that it is still affecting you, I 164 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: say the same thing, and science is not on my side. 165 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: Science is saying that. 166 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: It will affect me over time. 167 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: And I don't want to ever have bad sleep. Yeah, 168 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: so I better start thinking this about this a little 169 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: bit differently and a little bit more healthily and thinking, well, look, 170 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: if I want to have better sleep, let's at least 171 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: stop having coffee by three PM, because it's going to 172 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: affect your ability to go into rem sleep for about 173 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: about eight hours after having it. 174 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: Far out all right, So wait a couple of hours 175 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: after you've waken up to have your first coffee. Try 176 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: and have at least half a liter of water in 177 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: between coffees, and no coffees post three pm? Is that 178 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: what I'm taking from this? 179 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: That's the takeaway? 180 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Fantastic, perfect, doctor Zach Turner, Thank you so much for 181 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: chatting to from the news room. 182 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Have a great day. 183 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, not having a coffee first thing in 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: the morning is going to be a tough lifestyle change 185 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: for me, and it appears I'm not alone. 186 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: How long after you wake up do you have your 187 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: first coffee? Generally not until I get into the office, 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: So how long is that? Maybe two hours? And how 189 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: many coffees per day? I'm lucky if I have one. 190 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't drink them most of the time. Really, 191 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: what are you used? Do you know? To get up 192 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 3: in about pure grit? I thought you're going to say cokaine. 193 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: How long after you wake up do you have your 194 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: first coffee? 195 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: I reckon an hour? 196 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Oh what if I told you that Doctor Zach has 197 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: recommended you push that back to a couple of hours. 198 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: I don't think that would be possible. How long after 199 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: you get up do you have your first coffee? I 200 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: don't drink coffee. Thanks for ruining this, fox pot. I 201 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: was waiting for you to ask how long after you 202 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: wake up do you have your first coffee? 203 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 204 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: As soon as I get to the office. 205 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: I know I shouldn't, but I can't help it. So 206 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: what's that like? Half an hour? Forty five minutes? Probably 207 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: doctor Zach has recommended that you push that back a 208 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: couple of hours. What do you think about that? Could 209 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: you do it? I could try to do it. 210 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: I have heard that it's really bad for your gut 211 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: and your hormones or something. 212 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Is he saying that, Yeah, you keep doing it? 213 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: I know, because it's a start work at five point thirty. 214 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: I need something to look forward to when I get in. 215 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: How many coffees per day? 216 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: I do cap at it too, and I make sure 217 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: that they're only in the morning. 218 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: If I drink coffee after midday, it'll affect my sleep. 219 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: All right, Well, you get a gold star from doctor 220 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: Zach for that bit. 221 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad to get something. 222 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: How long after you wake up do you have your 223 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: first coffee? 224 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Half an hour? You know? 225 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: Apparently that's bad for you. Oh damn it a little list. 226 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: Doctor Zach says you should push that back a couple 227 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: of hours. Could you do that? No? Pass? How long 228 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: after you wake af do you have your first coffee 229 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: of the morning? 230 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: Oh, look, instantly if I could, But I usually wait 231 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: about forty five minutes. 232 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: Do you know doctor Zach is saying you should wait 233 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: a couple of hours. It's better for you. Yeah. 234 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: Look, that doesn't surprise me. 235 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: But I've got a baby that doesn't sleep, so you 236 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: know that's got to come first, right, too bad, doctor Zach. 237 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: Exactly how long after you wake up do you have 238 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: your first coffee? Oh? 239 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: Like maybe ten minutes. 240 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: Oh, that's really bad for you. You know why why 241 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: have you not read the article on news dot com 242 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: dot you? Doctor Zach says you will want to wait 243 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: a couple of hours. 244 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: A couple of hours. 245 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: I can't be doing that. 246 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Well, clearly most people do not give a damn about 247 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: the medical advice. That's the case of doctor, doctor go away. 248 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have an early coffee every day anyway. Ah boy, 249 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that. That was an awful crime 250 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: to end the episode on. I'm gonna go have a 251 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: coffee and I will catch you tomorrow. Follow or subscribe 252 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to from the Newsroom wherever you get your podcasts.