Speaker 1: I got a team. It's Harps, it's Tiff. It's Harry, or,
Speaker 1: as I call him, the Big h the big deal.
Speaker 1: He's all of that. Hi, Tiff, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good aaps. How are you?
Speaker 1: Oh bloody fantastic. I've had my coffee and I drank
Speaker 1: all of it, unlike you.
Speaker 2: Half your luck, mate, half your luck. Mine's spilled across
Speaker 2: the floor and the desk and the computers everywhere.
Speaker 1: We're about three minutes before pressing the go button and
Speaker 1: you just sat down with your coffee and spilled it everywhere.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a little one. Look how big that
Speaker 2: was was in my big true protein cap. It was huge.
Speaker 2: It was well everywhere.
Speaker 1: No caffeen for you for the next forty five or
Speaker 1: fifty minutes. You might not off, Harry, and I'll keepe
Speaker 1: you well awake and entertained and amused. You better, Harry,
Speaker 1: Hi mate, Welcome to the You project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much having me on. I'm very
Speaker 3: excited with you now.
Speaker 1: You said before we rolled that you've listened to a
Speaker 1: few episodes before Tiff even reached out to you. Where
Speaker 1: did you hear about the show or you just stumbled
Speaker 1: on it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. It was like about two
Speaker 3: years ago. I was suddening across the Instagram one of
Speaker 3: my Instagram stories and someone who I followed I reshared
Speaker 3: one of your podcasts. So, yeah, I think you have
Speaker 3: an amazing podcast and I'm pretty honored to be on.
Speaker 1: We're on a tab you you're bloody, You're, like I said,
Speaker 1: you're a big deal. How's life been since the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been interesting, mate. I've spoken about this openly.
Speaker 3: There was like a period part the Olympics where I
Speaker 3: felt really numb. Yeah, not much was giving me life,
Speaker 3: not much was giving me energy. The only thing that
Speaker 3: was was my partner. And yeah, it was a weird
Speaker 3: feeling like we trained for things for so long and
Speaker 3: it just happens like that and win, lose or draw.
Speaker 3: We all have goals and we all have yeah places
Speaker 3: we want to be and that gold medal was what
Speaker 3: I wanted and unfortunately I stumbled right at the last hurdle.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was like a weird sort of couple
Speaker 3: of months coming to terms of it. But I feel
Speaker 3: like myself again and I just set bigger goals and
Speaker 3: different goals and I'm really excited for the future now,
Speaker 3: But it was an interesting couple of months. I won't
Speaker 3: like what was.
Speaker 1: The I mean, this is kind of a kind of
Speaker 1: a dumb question, but I want the answer. And I
Speaker 1: know you could talk for a now about this, but
Speaker 1: can you give us a snapshot of you know, like
Speaker 1: last year was Oh it wasn't last year, it was
Speaker 1: the year before. I was thinking the twenty twenty, you know,
Speaker 1: because we were in the throes of COVID. It was
Speaker 1: chaos globally. What was the Olympic experience like for you?
Speaker 1: There's like, is there two or three vivid memories that
Speaker 1: come out of that or feelings?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. I actually had a different qualification to other
Speaker 3: boxes from Australia and there were six boxes that qualified.
Speaker 3: All five others besides myself, they all qualified at the
Speaker 3: start of twenty twenty before COVID hit and I failed
Speaker 3: on two different occasions and there was a bit of
Speaker 3: uncertainty through twenty twenty. Am I going to go to
Speaker 3: your peach? Is my Olympic dream over you? And that
Speaker 3: whole year of not being able to travel, not being
Speaker 3: able to train properly. I was in Melbourne throughout the
Speaker 3: tough lockdowns, It was an interesting year twenty twenty. Looking
Speaker 3: back in retrospect, though, I'm really grateful that happened. I
Speaker 3: got to spend a lot of necessary time and needed
Speaker 3: time with my family. I rekindle the relationships with my
Speaker 3: two brothers, and I spent a lot more time with
Speaker 3: my mum and dad, which is great with my dog.
Speaker 3: So there were some really really good things for twenty
Speaker 3: twenty for me, but it was also very very challenging.
Speaker 3: Of course, not being able to train, not being able
Speaker 3: to compete. Am I going to go to the Olympics,
Speaker 3: all these thoughts coming up, and Yeah, to finally get
Speaker 3: the opportunity to represent our beautiful country in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: I was absolutely over the moon.
Speaker 1: There was there a moment when you got to the
Speaker 1: Olympic village or anywhere along the journey where you be
Speaker 1: able to pinch yourself, or there was maybe many moments,
Speaker 1: but where you kind of went this is.
Speaker 3: Incredible, absolutely mate. I've spoke about this just recently. On
Speaker 3: the second or third night, I remember it so vividly.
Speaker 3: I was sitting in my apartment and Japan at that
Speaker 3: time of year is beautiful, the night sky was it
Speaker 3: was on dusk and it was a beautiful It was
Speaker 3: about thirty degrees. It's really nice weather. And I never
Speaker 3: forget I was sitting there. All I could hear was singing, dancing,
Speaker 3: people laughing, joking around, and I just thought to myself,
Speaker 3: this is what humans can achieve when we put our
Speaker 3: heads together in a positive way and seeing all the
Speaker 3: cultures of life and walking through the athlete village, Like
Speaker 3: it was truly like a moment where I was like,
Speaker 3: I was just so great. It sounds a bit corny
Speaker 3: and cheesy, but I was just so grateful to be
Speaker 3: human in that moment. And yeah, I'll never forget that moment.
Speaker 3: That was about the second or third night, And yeah, truly,
Speaker 3: like pitch myself now thinking about.
Speaker 1: It, it doesn't sound cheesy, it sounds fucking great. I
Speaker 1: love that I'm with you. I think you and I
Speaker 1: are both both a bit deep and philosophical. Where does
Speaker 1: that that kind of sensitive, empathetic kind of global consciousness,
Speaker 1: philosophical kind of mindset about the world and humanity and
Speaker 1: people and culture and happiness.
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that something that's evolved in you?
Speaker 3: Or is that you? That's a good question. I think
Speaker 3: I'm trying my best to become that and and you
Speaker 3: know you're never going to get there, always on the journey,
Speaker 3: and I think I'm really blessed. My mum is a medium,
Speaker 3: she talks to dead people, very spiritual, and my dad's
Speaker 3: a roof tiler, a tradesman and hard working as a man.
Speaker 3: And having them growing up together, they really a compliment
Speaker 3: each other. I saw the world from my dad's eyes
Speaker 3: of a hard working man. You show up and you
Speaker 3: provide for your family. And then my mom on the
Speaker 3: other side, was very flowy and spiritual and always had
Speaker 3: tarot cards, crystals and all that who we're doing sort
Speaker 3: of stuff, and yeah, and I love seeing that growing up.
Speaker 3: And I was always really curious about the world and
Speaker 3: what's right what's wrong because my parents were almost very
Speaker 3: different and they're two amazing people. And then when I
Speaker 3: was sixteen, the Reach Foundation enter my life. And some
Speaker 3: people may know the Rich Foundation, but it's a youth
Speaker 3: organization and it's all about giving young people a platform
Speaker 3: to realize their full potential. And through that journey, I
Speaker 3: really doolved into myself and they really learned. They really
Speaker 3: taught me sorry to love myself for the good the bad,
Speaker 3: and the ugly, and yeah, probably from Reach, I really
Speaker 3: sort of viewed the world in a different sense, and
Speaker 3: I'm really grateful that they come into my life.
Speaker 1: What was happening with you at that stage that you
Speaker 1: and Reach intersected. Were you dealing with stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about sixteen at the time, so I
Speaker 3: think every young person around that age is going through
Speaker 3: their own stuff. Their body is changing, the world's changing.
Speaker 3: I remember in high school, you thought you had a problem,
Speaker 3: You thought it was the end of the world, And yeah,
Speaker 3: I was a little bit of a roads. Prior to
Speaker 3: that moment, I lost more fights than I had won
Speaker 3: in boxing. I hadn't won a national event. I was
Speaker 3: having a lot of failure and being unsuccessful. And after
Speaker 3: meeting Reach and first being a participant and then becoming
Speaker 3: a crew member, I won my first nationals within the
Speaker 3: first year and the rest is history. And it's not
Speaker 3: a coincidence. I don't think that the more that I
Speaker 3: delved into myself and the more that I understood about
Speaker 3: myself and the world, the better I become as an athlete.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coincidence at all. And I've
Speaker 3: just noticed each time I sort of delve into myself
Speaker 3: and try my best to become a better human. I
Speaker 3: just naturally become a better athlete as well.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's this, well, very insightful for someone
Speaker 1: so young, but I kind of I kind of got
Speaker 1: onto this later where I realized I was kind of
Speaker 1: being what I thought I was meant to be for everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, because we grow up being programmed in a
Speaker 1: way and taught and told and trained by culture and
Speaker 1: society and media and these days social media about how
Speaker 1: we're meant to be. But sometimes in the middle of
Speaker 1: being what I'm meant to be, I'm not actually being
Speaker 1: me at all. So was that a part of that?
Speaker 1: Who the fuck am I? Was that part of it?
Speaker 1: Who am I? And beyond what everyone expects of me?
Speaker 1: Who is Harry? Was that part of it?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Mate? And I'm still on that journey as we speak.
Speaker 3: I think I'm slowly but surely becoming a lot better
Speaker 3: at understanding who I am truly and trying to live
Speaker 3: my most authentic self. I actually did something just over
Speaker 3: the weekend, just gone, and I really realized it's pretty
Speaker 3: present in my life. A lot of people pleasing and
Speaker 3: it's something that often, like I feel like I sacrifice
Speaker 3: myself sometimes in order to make sure the people around
Speaker 3: me are feeling good. And that's not a bad thing
Speaker 3: at all. I don't criticize myself for that, but just
Speaker 3: also being aware of what are my needs, what do
Speaker 3: I really want in this moment? What do I really
Speaker 3: need in this moment? And I spoke openly. It was
Speaker 3: a breath work course openly about I feel like like
Speaker 3: when I was younger, my grandparents were sort of not
Speaker 3: very present, and they were really sort of open about
Speaker 3: that and made me very aware that they didn't want
Speaker 3: to be present in my life, both sides, grandparents, and
Speaker 3: it made me really sort of think that I wasn't
Speaker 3: worthy enough. When we're young, we don't really understand that,
Speaker 3: you mean, there's family issues going on. We think that
Speaker 3: it's our it's our fault, we're so young. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I sort of made me realize the weekend
Speaker 3: that I'm chasing all this glory and fame and all
Speaker 3: this stuff in a sense to sort of gain their
Speaker 3: approval and make make them love me, which which was
Speaker 3: a quite powerful realization for me to have. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it was an interesting thing. As I said, it was
Speaker 3: through a breathwork thing that I did, and that sort
Speaker 3: of come up and it's still sort of something that
Speaker 3: I'm navigating, so I can't really talk too much on.
Speaker 1: That, but I made that's super super bravery you. And
Speaker 1: do you know what it's like? What are you twenty four?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I know fifty four year olds that are
Speaker 1: still trying to get their parents' approval or they're trying to.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting that idea of because you're very
Speaker 1: empathetic and very kind, and you think about others and
Speaker 1: worry about others. I'm guessing I've known you for eight minutes,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm kind of sensing, I reckon. The
Speaker 1: challenge sometimes is to be kind and be empathetic but
Speaker 1: also know where the line is. It's like, my mum's
Speaker 1: super kind and generous and loving and a bit fucking terrifying,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's so trying to manage that. You know,
Speaker 1: you can still be strong and powerful and assertive and
Speaker 1: know where your boundary is and not be a people pleaser,
Speaker 1: but at the same time be very giving and generous
Speaker 1: and kind. And I think it's trying to keep that
Speaker 1: balance where you're still loving people and serving people if
Speaker 1: that's part of what you want to do, but you're
Speaker 1: not compromising your values or yourself. You know you can
Speaker 1: do both. And that's I mean, mate, that's a that's
Speaker 1: an ongoing quest and an ongoing lesson.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and it really it stems from I think
Speaker 3: it stems from a really good place. Like we obviously
Speaker 3: care about other people. We want them to make sure
Speaker 3: they're happy, and especially if we love on the door,
Speaker 3: we want them to be happy in at times, as
Speaker 3: I said, I feel like I may put their needs
Speaker 3: before mine. And it's true. I'm just going to get
Speaker 3: better at setting boundaries. And that's one of my goals
Speaker 3: this year is that just had a few better boundaries
Speaker 3: and stick to them, not just set there and really
Speaker 3: stick to them. And yeah, it's it's February and I'm
Speaker 3: slowly but surely sort of getting better at it.
Speaker 1: Good for you, I read that you had and you
Speaker 1: mentioned this already, but in your first eighteen fights you
Speaker 1: lost ten, which is I would have lost eighteen, so
Speaker 1: you still did well, right, And then you spoke about
Speaker 1: your time with Reach. Was that the was that the
Speaker 1: real kind of cognitive and emotional turning point in terms
Speaker 1: of you having a bit of I don't know confidence
Speaker 1: or like, what what change that you went from losing
Speaker 1: more than you were winning to is it nine times
Speaker 1: national champion? Yeah, Commonwealth Games gold medalist and Olympian with
Speaker 1: a bronze medal?
Speaker 3: What? Like?
Speaker 1: What was the significant Because lots of people are listening
Speaker 1: to this, who are identifying with you? Right, because we're
Speaker 1: all we all overthink virtually, everyone's a fucking overthinker. Everyone's
Speaker 1: scared of something. We all want to be love, needed, wanted, valued, connected,
Speaker 1: We don't want to be alone. We want people to
Speaker 1: care all of those things. But at the same time
Speaker 1: we want to be strong and powerful and resilient, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't all go together. Like what was the
Speaker 1: turning point? What happened with you to go from the
Speaker 1: guy who was getting beaten to the guy that we
Speaker 1: all know now and that it's got a national profile
Speaker 1: and is a champion.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think there's numerous moments in my life. I
Speaker 3: remember so significantly when the first Nationals that I won.
Speaker 3: As I mentioned prior to that, I had no success
Speaker 3: at the national level, and reach had just come into
Speaker 3: my life probably about a year before my first national
Speaker 3: win and through the journey of being involved with REACH.
Speaker 3: They really sort of allowed me the space to sort
Speaker 3: of realize my full potential and truly believe in myself
Speaker 3: a lot more and have a more confidence with myself.
Speaker 3: And I remember saying to myself before my first national win,
Speaker 3: I'm going to dedicate everything to these next twelve weeks prior.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do everything. When I wake up early,
Speaker 3: I'm going to train, I'm going to go to bed early,
Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to do all the things
Speaker 3: that possibly can to make sure that I'm ready for
Speaker 3: this moment. And that feeling before that nationals being able
Speaker 3: to look myself in the mirror and know that I
Speaker 3: never once turned my back on myself like that feeling
Speaker 3: is quite electric. And I've only felt that four or
Speaker 3: five times in my life, and the Olympics Calm Games
Speaker 3: will one of them as well. And that feeling is
Speaker 3: quite amazing. When you haven't turned your back and yourself
Speaker 3: once you showed up every single session, I only know you.
Speaker 3: Only you know that you've done that. People may think
Speaker 3: that you've done that, but only you really know if
Speaker 3: you've turned your back or cut corners or stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and that feeling of been I looked myself in the
Speaker 3: mirror was quite amazing. And I finally won my first
Speaker 3: Nationals and the rest was history. But I think that
Speaker 3: was the point. Reach gave me the space to realize
Speaker 3: my full potential and believing myself. And then I dedicated
Speaker 3: twelve weeks in my life to make sure that I
Speaker 3: was ready for the first Nationals, and as I said,
Speaker 3: the rest was history.
Speaker 1: Apart from apart from the stuff you've done in boxing,
Speaker 1: what for you? And it doesn't need to be significant
Speaker 1: to anyone else at all, but what for you has
Speaker 1: been among your biggest accomplishments personally Where you look back
Speaker 1: and you go, I've overcome that, or I've improved that,
Speaker 1: or I've learned that. Like what are you most proud
Speaker 1: of other than you boxing stuff? Personally?
Speaker 3: That's a that's a really good question. I think the
Speaker 3: stuff that I do when no one's looking, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's the stuff that I'm most proud of. And I
Speaker 3: don't need to go and try and bignote myself here,
Speaker 3: but I know when there's no one looking and there's
Speaker 3: no one around, I'll always try my best to do
Speaker 3: the right thing. And I credit that to my parents.
Speaker 3: They're really good people. So although like fame, sporting success,
Speaker 3: it all kind of means nothing. I think at the end,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we're all just going
Speaker 3: to be We're all just human and I'm going to
Speaker 3: be buried six feet under when I'm older and no
Speaker 3: different to anyone else. And I always just try my
Speaker 3: best to have human connection and be a good person.
Speaker 3: And I'm really proud of myself for that.
Speaker 1: Fantastic And how are your mum and dad around? Did
Speaker 1: they realize you're a big deal or is it just man?
Speaker 3: I think it might be just you At the end
Speaker 3: of the day, I'm just a little boy. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it's quite interesting. I remember through the Olympics it was
Speaker 3: quite funny. I would always call my parents. I'd like
Speaker 3: so because I try my best to stay off my
Speaker 3: phone just so I can really focus on my mission.
Speaker 3: And I would call my mom and like, yeah, so
Speaker 3: how you go, and just like, oh, we just had
Speaker 3: sunrise over. We're talking to the Herald Sun Channel seven's
Speaker 3: coming over that. I'm like, oh that you guys are
Speaker 3: good tool more than I A yeah, But I absolutely
Speaker 3: loved it and really embraced it and it's good that
Speaker 3: they're getting a bit of limelight. Every family sort of
Speaker 3: wants and craves a bit of attention, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: think me the reason is to why one of the
Speaker 3: reasons is to why I'm chasing thing so hard. As
Speaker 3: well as my family, I always felt people judge and
Speaker 3: criticize my family growing up, and because of that, I
Speaker 3: felt like we weren't good enough, and I just wanted
Speaker 3: to prove that we are. And it's great that they're
Speaker 3: getting a bit of spotlight as well.
Speaker 1: As much or as little as you want to share,
Speaker 1: What did you feel that were critical of your family about?
Speaker 3: There's numerous things. Always my dad really presented it's just
Speaker 3: a tradesman, and he and I often felt people were
Speaker 3: laughing at him, not with him. Right, he was a
Speaker 3: bit of Alarican, but as I mentioned, people were sort
Speaker 3: of like laughing at him. He played this bit of
Speaker 3: a role and I played that for a lot of
Speaker 3: my life as well. And I just felt then the
Speaker 3: other side, my mom's side, they're a bit well off
Speaker 3: and rich, and my dad's side is really the opposite,
Speaker 3: and my mom's side often criticized us for being like
Speaker 3: like I get, I guess a bit more lower class
Speaker 3: to them, and I felt that who knows that this
Speaker 3: is just a story in my head, but I felt that,
Speaker 3: And there was people the football club always sort of
Speaker 3: looking down at my feel I felt that looking down
Speaker 3: at my family, and yeah, it's just great that when
Speaker 3: my parents go to the shops now and this sounds
Speaker 3: a little bit weird, but when my parents go to
Speaker 3: the shops now and people ask, jeez, how how are
Speaker 3: we going? You know, proud? You know how proud? That
Speaker 3: makes me. It makes me so proud, and I know
Speaker 3: my mom and dad would be so proud. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it because of that, but it's a
Speaker 3: great feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mane, it's amazing. It's amazing. How does I feel
Speaker 1: like having a high profile and being I don't have
Speaker 1: to write words famous, but let's go with really well known?
Speaker 1: That probably sits better with you. How does that sit
Speaker 1: with you? Do you like that? Do you tolerate it?
Speaker 1: Is it a platform for you to share messages? What
Speaker 1: do you feel about being really well known?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been really interesting. Prior to the Olympics, like
Speaker 3: no one knew me besides my mom and dad, I think,
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's been like really interesting. No one can
Speaker 3: really prepare you for that stuff, Like you walk down
Speaker 3: the street and some young person runs up to you
Speaker 3: and shakes your hand or gives your knuckles or something
Speaker 3: like that. Like I'm at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I'm still just that young boy who watched Grant Hacket
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven and dreamt of being a
Speaker 3: sporting hero like he was. And yeah, I just try
Speaker 3: my best and never lose sight of who I really
Speaker 3: am and staying really grounded. And yeah, at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, as I said, I'm no different to
Speaker 3: any other human. We're just humans at the end of
Speaker 3: the day. And I try my best always show integrity
Speaker 3: and show character and always give especially young people the
Speaker 3: time of day, because I really do think that if
Speaker 3: one young person shakes my hand or gives me knuckles
Speaker 3: or watch me on TV and he goes to maybe
Speaker 3: the twenty thirty two Olympics and wins a gold medal,
Speaker 3: then I'll be so proud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing, mate, tell us about We probably can't
Speaker 1: chat to you without talking about your nail polish at
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Was that something orchestrated? Did you think about
Speaker 1: that for a long time or was it just a
Speaker 1: spur of the moment thing and what was it about
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was sorry to ask you that question. I know
Speaker 1: you've been asked one thousand fucking times. I tried to
Speaker 1: avoid it, but I thought, oh, well, let's hear about it.
Speaker 3: It's a good message, I think, And yeah, that was
Speaker 3: something that was. The nail polish itself was quite impulsive.
Speaker 3: I was going to wear a dress originally to the
Speaker 3: opening ceremony, but I'm pretty grateful I didn't do that
Speaker 3: just because I didn't want to grab the spotlight away
Speaker 3: from the rest of the team. It's about the whole
Speaker 3: team and also as well, like prior to A can't imagine,
Speaker 3: that could have went a million different ways, and prior
Speaker 3: to A can't you sort of you don't want too much.
Speaker 3: You just want to make sure you're focusing. And the
Speaker 3: nail a polish was the message behind that is you're
Speaker 3: trying my best to show young people, especially that you
Speaker 3: don't have to fit this mold that society tells you,
Speaker 3: your family tells you, your friends tell you. You can
Speaker 3: be whatever you want to be as long as it
Speaker 3: feels right to you and as long as you're not
Speaker 3: hurting anyone else, and it really doesn't matter. You don't
Speaker 3: even have to explain why you love something. And I
Speaker 3: never thought that a young Timid. I was a young
Speaker 3: Timber boy growing up. It was nothing like my talder
Speaker 3: brothers that I was going to start boxing and fall
Speaker 3: in love with it. I was a lot more close
Speaker 3: to my mum's energy. But I took the leap and
Speaker 3: I fell in love with the sport that there was
Speaker 3: nothing like my personality. And yeah, it just shows how different,
Speaker 3: unique and change and beautiful we are as individuals. And
Speaker 3: I just hope that a young person sees that and
Speaker 3: try something different and try something unique, try something that
Speaker 3: their friends or family aren't, because you never know, you
Speaker 3: might fall in love with him and spend the rest
Speaker 3: of your life chasing it. It is.
Speaker 1: It is almost like an odd pairing you and boxing,
Speaker 1: because you're your energy and it's such a brutal sport
Speaker 1: and you're so not a brutal bloke.
Speaker 3: Trauma best not to me. I often think as well,
Speaker 3: like boxing has probably been the thing that's allowed me
Speaker 3: to be more relaxed and know myself more. And you
Speaker 3: may think as boxes as being rough and but I
Speaker 3: also think that because we do combat, we're confident in ourselves,
Speaker 3: we know our ability, and we're a lot more relaxed
Speaker 3: because we're always releasing energy and more negative energy. And
Speaker 3: the boxing community, I've met so many amazing people. And
Speaker 3: there also is of course bad people, but there's bad
Speaker 3: people in all industries. And yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 3: majority of really really good people in the boxing world.
Speaker 1: Tell us about your tats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've covered got a big right right leg sleeve
Speaker 3: full of my favorite boxers. So all of them except
Speaker 3: for one went to the Olympics and representing their country
Speaker 3: and did well and then termed professional and people like
Speaker 3: Muhammad Ali for Salimamchenko, Sugar and Leonard Roy Jones Jr.
Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins some of the best boxes of all time
Speaker 3: and some of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And also there was a couple
Speaker 1: of notable exclusions based on kind of your value system.
Speaker 1: Can you because some people have asked, you know why
Speaker 1: you didn't get Mike Tyson or Floyd Mayweather, And if
Speaker 1: I've got this right, the reason was that because Tyson
Speaker 1: was convicted of rape and Mayweather was I think convicted
Speaker 1: of domestic violence or beating his partner up. Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct, and not taking anything away from them
Speaker 3: as athletes. They're unbelievable athletes. And I just think our society,
Speaker 3: I think we've got to try and change the narrative.
Speaker 3: And just because someone has a lot of money, or
Speaker 3: they're good at a sport, or they're famous or something
Speaker 3: like that, that doesn't mean that if they do something wrong
Speaker 3: they should be looked any differently. And yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: support or respect people like that. As I said that,
Speaker 3: I always try my best as well. I'm a pretty
Speaker 3: caring person. I always trying my best to give people
Speaker 3: empathy and understand people grow and people evolve. And and
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson, that happened almost twenty thirty years ago, happened
Speaker 3: a long time ago, and who knows, you could be
Speaker 3: a completely different person now, and same as Flo Maeather.
Speaker 3: But I'm not supporting that, and I'm not supporting anyone
Speaker 3: who supports that. And yeah, I'm no disrespected to them too.
Speaker 3: As I said, we all grow as humans, we all evolve,
Speaker 3: and we all change. But yeah, as I said, I
Speaker 3: don't want to get people like that on my leg.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to take a left turn. Tell me
Speaker 1: about your spiritual life, because you've got a spiritual mum.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's something going on. Do you have a
Speaker 1: particular kind of practice or philosophy that is kind of
Speaker 1: there's some kind of routine around that a life or
Speaker 1: is it just a mindset or nothing at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sort of really figuring that out. So me
Speaker 3: and me and my partner this year, we really set
Speaker 3: a few goals to like we're at the fresh part
Speaker 3: of our relationship, and I said, this year, I really
Speaker 3: want to sort of I'm understand myself a lot more.
Speaker 3: Only twenty four, I'm still sort of learning a lot
Speaker 3: about the world and myself. And there's nothing really that
Speaker 3: I do. I meditate daily, my journal like that, they're
Speaker 3: not really that spiritual. But yeah, I attended last month
Speaker 3: with the philosophy meet up group and I was the
Speaker 3: youngest by about thirty years, and that was quite amazing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I always just try my best and always
Speaker 3: try different things and unique things. And as I mentioned,
Speaker 3: I did a breathwork thing over the weekend, and this
Speaker 3: year I really just wanted to spend a lot of
Speaker 3: time doing a lot of self discovery and self growth,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I don't know if you've read Green Lights
Speaker 3: by Matthew McConaughey, great boy, No I haven't. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a fantastic book. And there's moments in his life that
Speaker 3: he felt it. I'm not saying I feel flat right now,
Speaker 3: because I don't, but in his life where he felt
Speaker 3: a little bit stale and flat and he's acting, and
Speaker 3: he went overseas and he lived in the Amazon for
Speaker 3: a period of time. He also lived in different places
Speaker 3: for a period of time, and you and I love that.
Speaker 3: And he really sort of just delved into himself and
Speaker 3: spent time by himself and understood himself more. And then
Speaker 3: he come back and now he's one of the most
Speaker 3: famous actors of all time. So yeah, if that happens
Speaker 3: this year, maybe, who knows.
Speaker 1: I think it's did you say it's called green Lights?
Speaker 3: Green Lights? Correct?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to get it. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get it on audible today. I'm just writing it down.
Speaker 1: This is not very good for a podcast, but stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like that being able to spend real time
Speaker 1: away from your normal life, like whatever your normal life is,
Speaker 1: to get completely away from it and even from the
Speaker 1: people that you spend time with, not because they're good
Speaker 1: or bad, but I think being in a different environment,
Speaker 1: different energy, different schedule, different responsibilities for the day, where
Speaker 1: you're totally out of your normal groundhog dayess of existence,
Speaker 1: I think that it can give you a perspective that
Speaker 1: you can't get when you're in the middle of your life.
Speaker 1: You know, I had this kind of almost well, I
Speaker 1: would call it an epiphany when I was in my
Speaker 1: thirties and I had all these businesses Harrian and everything
Speaker 1: was going well, and I had five businesses. Life was good,
Speaker 1: I was making good money, I had lots of staff.
Speaker 1: But in the middle of it, I wasn't particularly happy.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to bore my listeners who have heard this,
Speaker 1: but the quick version is I went away and spent
Speaker 1: ten days by myself. So I didn't work and I
Speaker 1: didn't have a phone call, and I didn't have a conversation,
Speaker 1: and I didn't have a computer, and I didn't like
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything that I normally did, and I
Speaker 1: spent ten days alone and not sitting in a room.
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 1: Was on the beach, in nature. I was doing a
Speaker 1: whole lot of things, but I did everything by myself.
Speaker 1: And I didn't actually other than ordering a coffee or something,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a conversation at all with anyone. And
Speaker 1: it was the most profound ten days of my life
Speaker 1: in terms of.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: And I wish everyone would all, particularly everyone who's trying
Speaker 1: to kind of in inverted commas, find themselves or understand
Speaker 1: themselves a bit more. I think you can never do
Speaker 1: that better than when you're away from your normal life
Speaker 1: and situation and relationships and commitments, because you get a
Speaker 1: level of clarity and awareness that you can't get when
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of it, you know. And it
Speaker 1: reminds me of there's a guy called Gerber who wrote
Speaker 1: a book years ago called The e Myth, and he
Speaker 1: talks about not being able to work on the business
Speaker 1: while you're in the business, and I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like that with your life. When you're in the middle
Speaker 1: of it, it's hard to find the perspective that's really
Speaker 1: going to be powerful, and when you're away from it,
Speaker 1: you see things that you can't see, you know. So
Speaker 1: I definitely recommend, and I know ten days is a lot,
Speaker 1: but I recommend people do even yearly, annually, even two
Speaker 1: days where you're by yourself for two days and you're
Speaker 1: not you're not reading newspapers, and you're not online, and
Speaker 1: you're not looking at your phone, you're not looking at
Speaker 1: a computer. You don't have distractions. At the best you
Speaker 1: have is a pad and a pen so you can
Speaker 1: get shit out of your head and your heart and
Speaker 1: down onto a book. But yeah, I definitely think that
Speaker 1: that that there's a real potential for us to live
Speaker 1: unconsciously where you kind of wake up in a minute
Speaker 1: and you go, oh and now I'm thirty Oh fuck,
Speaker 1: what have I been doing? Oh I'm thirty five? Shit,
Speaker 1: rather than creating the life that you want. Like so
Speaker 1: many people I've spoken to over the years have said
Speaker 1: a version of this to me. You know, they sit
Speaker 1: in front of me, we're doing a coaching session or
Speaker 1: having a chat lor whatever, and they go, they're forty
Speaker 1: five now or forty or fifty or whatever, and they go,
Speaker 1: this wasn't my plan. But when you unpack it, they
Speaker 1: didn't really have a plan as in a structure and
Speaker 1: a process and a timeline and a due list. They
Speaker 1: just really had an idea of how their life would
Speaker 1: end up. You know, because life's going to happen anyway,
Speaker 1: and you're either going to be the driver or you're
Speaker 1: going to be the passenger. And most people think they're
Speaker 1: the driver, but they're the passenger, I believe, And so
Speaker 1: it's about swapping seats and taking taking control again. But
Speaker 1: I'm banging on and I don't know why I'm telling
Speaker 1: you all this, but maybe it's relevant. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you, though, what would you like to be happening
Speaker 1: when you're so you're twenty four now, I think I'm
Speaker 1: looking at what would you like to be happening when
Speaker 1: you're thirty? If things go great?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just on what you're speaking about as well.
Speaker 3: I think us as humans that the longest relationship we
Speaker 3: have is the relationship we have with ourself, And as
Speaker 3: you mentioned, I think a lot of people will sometimes
Speaker 3: have a pretty poor relationship withself because they don't really
Speaker 3: understand themselves. And I realized recently I'm purely just I'm
Speaker 3: chasing happiness. I want more good days and bad days,
Speaker 3: as simple as that. And of course bad days are
Speaker 3: inevitable and they make the good days even better. But
Speaker 3: boxing makes me really happy, and if it didn't make
Speaker 3: me happy, I'd probably do something else. It's all I know,
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but it still makes me extremely happy.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's what I realized. I think I'm chasing
Speaker 3: happiness rather than chasing success or fame or anything like that.
Speaker 3: And that stuff just comes when passionately and you show
Speaker 3: up every day and you consistent with what you're doing.
Speaker 3: But thirty, what do I want to be when I'm thirty?
Speaker 3: Where do I want to be? I think I definitely
Speaker 3: want to be a father one day. I've never said
Speaker 3: that publicly, but yeah, I always growing up, I never
Speaker 3: really thought that I really wanted kids, And then you
Speaker 3: get to an age and I think something's just spark
Speaker 3: in your head and you go, I want to I
Speaker 3: want to try my best to be a good father
Speaker 3: like my dad was. And yeah, so one day I
Speaker 3: when I have kids, hopefully by the time I'm thirty,
Speaker 3: and I want to be world champion. I want to
Speaker 3: have a business on the side as well. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I would love to open a boxing gym one day.
Speaker 3: Maybe not by the time I'm thirty, but maybe more
Speaker 3: when I'm forty to fifty and have it in like
Speaker 3: a low SoC circond on the area and have it
Speaker 3: like free for kids. Imagine somewhere in Victory. I don't
Speaker 3: know where you're from originally, but somewhere like Dandinong or
Speaker 3: somewhere in Sydney in the West Mount Droug or something
Speaker 3: like that, having a boxing gym and really showing young
Speaker 3: people like life lessons. Not really, I couldn't really care
Speaker 3: less about creating champions, but just creating like life lessons
Speaker 3: and good people.
Speaker 1: That's such a good buddy goal. Well, mate, if you
Speaker 1: ever do that, hit me up. If I'm still alive,
Speaker 1: I could be well dead by then, but anyway, I'd
Speaker 1: love to support it. Where are you at at the
Speaker 1: minute with training and competing and like, what's what's to
Speaker 1: go about now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm currently about six seven weeks out from a competition,
Speaker 3: so I'm fighting in March at the end of March,
Speaker 3: start of April, so they haven't really finalized a date yet,
Speaker 3: but I'm just in deep training at the moment. Made
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling good. I'm feeling really good. I had
Speaker 3: a good break over Christmas, and last year was pretty
Speaker 3: full on for everyone and obviously with COVID, and it's
Speaker 3: still sort of lingering a little bit, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: had a really good break and I'm happy for that.
Speaker 3: I feel really refreshed this year and just excited to
Speaker 3: knock out this next fight and then have a big year.
Speaker 1: Did you get much kind of international attention or interest
Speaker 1: when after the Olympics, Like, I don't know how it works.
Speaker 1: Do people hit you up for fights and to bring
Speaker 1: you out and all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have like contracts, so like they give
Speaker 3: you boxing contracts and post Olympics, I had three contracts
Speaker 3: offered to me, one from USA, one from UK, and
Speaker 3: then one from Australia, and all obviously difference in money
Speaker 3: and time and fights and stuff like that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I chose to stay in Australia purely for two reasons.
Speaker 3: My partner and her are really fresh, and I just
Speaker 3: you've got to follow your heart. As similar as that,
Speaker 3: I moved too much from Melbourne to Sydney to follow
Speaker 3: my heart, and I made a good choice. I think
Speaker 3: it's going really well so and as well in the Amateurs,
Speaker 3: I traveled more more times than I stayed at home,
Speaker 3: So to be only two hours from my family in
Speaker 3: Melbourne by a flight, it's a lot better than always traveling.
Speaker 3: And yeah, eventually I want to go to the States
Speaker 3: or UK, but at the moment, I'm saying in Australia
Speaker 3: because this is my home. And yeah, I chose this
Speaker 3: contract because it was the best for me and my
Speaker 3: family and partner.
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to ask about the partner or do
Speaker 1: we have to stay covert and dark?
Speaker 3: Of course, ask away. She's a legend.
Speaker 1: Tell us about her.
Speaker 3: She's beautiful's a little bit older than me, so I'm
Speaker 3: twenty four, she's thirty three, which is probably I think
Speaker 3: what I needed. Yeah, someone who's she's definitely made me.
Speaker 3: She challenged me in ways I've never been challenged before,
Speaker 3: and I think every relationship does that. And she's super ambitious,
Speaker 3: she's super switched on. Has her own thing called hit
Speaker 3: like a Girl, and it's all about women empowerment, and
Speaker 3: she's really passionate about it. And I just love someone
Speaker 3: living their true self. And she left her job in
Speaker 3: HR and the corporate world and she started this business
Speaker 3: like a Girl and she's doing so well. And as
Speaker 3: I said, she's so passionate about it, and I can
Speaker 3: it oozes off and I really sort of spills into
Speaker 3: my cup as well. How passionate and motivated she is
Speaker 3: for what she's doing. And yeah, I'm over heels made.
Speaker 3: It's a honeymoon stage. You don't get me wrong, but
Speaker 3: it's bloody. I love and old Goo Goo's really exciting.
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 3: What's her name, Ashley Ruscoe? All Right?
Speaker 1: Her hit up on Instagram. Give her a bit of
Speaker 1: a follow everyone and give her a little bit of
Speaker 1: love and support. Do you and her train together?
Speaker 3: I never forget out there. They were both very competitive
Speaker 3: and the first training session we ever did together was
Speaker 3: a run and I never forget this. We s out
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, we're just found like four minute and
Speaker 3: thirty k's. By the end of it, we're like sprinting downhill.
Speaker 3: We're both going so hard. But she's really she really fit,
Speaker 3: really healthy, and we love training together. She's she's awesome.
Speaker 1: And what how does she compliment you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What does she? I mean, apart from the fact that
Speaker 1: you love each other, which is an ace of course,
Speaker 1: what does she How does she keep you in check?
Speaker 1: Does she monitor your bullshit? Does she you know? Does
Speaker 1: she keep you in line?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? And I think, like I've realized I've had your
Speaker 3: success and failure and sport family dramas we all have them,
Speaker 3: and nothing challenges you more than a relationship, because they
Speaker 3: really sort of they come into a space that not
Speaker 3: many people can see and they're the closest one to
Speaker 3: you times. And don't get me wrong, sometimes comps, I'm
Speaker 3: super sort of uptighted, I'm anxious, I'm nervous, I'm fearful,
Speaker 3: there's a lot going through my body. And yeah, sometimes
Speaker 3: I can be a bit of a jerk and she
Speaker 3: really put me in place and it's good, and same
Speaker 3: goes on both ends. Sometimes she's irritable and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But we really sort of have the best communication, and
Speaker 3: I think we've set a really good foundation for the
Speaker 3: rest of our relationship. And we communicate really well with
Speaker 3: each other and nothing's off limits, and when we're feeling things,
Speaker 3: we try best to say it instantly rather than letting
Speaker 3: it linger and maybe build resentment eventually. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: really sort of happy and proud of both of us
Speaker 3: for as I said, the foundations that we've built so
Speaker 3: far in the last six seven months.
Speaker 1: Good for you, man, Well, I hope that's a long, happy,
Speaker 1: healthy relationship. Now a few more minutes, if you'd be
Speaker 1: so generous, tell us a little bit. Obviously, my background
Speaker 1: part of my background is working with teams and athletes
Speaker 1: and in conditioning sports science. Tell us about your according
Speaker 1: to the things that I read, anyway, somewhat unique approach
Speaker 1: to conditioning and training like ballet and army training and karaoke. Karaoke?
Speaker 1: Is that training?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was. So we did this program called the
Speaker 3: gold met Already program. It was with the Commander Regiment
Speaker 3: and the AUSTRALNGE Board and the biggest thing I took
Speaker 3: from it was get comfortable being uncomfortable. And since the
Speaker 3: start of twenty nineteen, so the last three years, I've
Speaker 3: been doing challenges and I've done things like start ballet, karaoke,
Speaker 3: had really hard conversations with my family and family and friends,
Speaker 3: and thirteen hours straight in the bike, so many other things.
Speaker 3: Philosophy met up with it last month. There's so many
Speaker 3: things that I've done and each seeing I've learned something
Speaker 3: new from And yeah, I encourage anyone if there's something
Speaker 3: that you find uncomfortable, whether it be this really simple one.
Speaker 3: As I go to a dance class, we all feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: We all feel nervous, we all feel anxious. Before that,
Speaker 3: we all feel like we're going to get judged or embarrassed,
Speaker 3: but that feeling after you accomplish that is quite amazing
Speaker 3: and and you feel like you can run through a
Speaker 3: brick wall. And there's only growth from situations like that.
Speaker 3: And I'm really grateful for the Goldment Ready program.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean the truth is, I love that
Speaker 1: idea and it's a philosophy of mine that I teach
Speaker 1: as well, is that like, we can't build strength without
Speaker 1: getting uncomfortable, right, Like you're literally working against resistance in
Speaker 1: the gym, working against resistance in life. And you know,
Speaker 1: our body adapts, our mind adapts, our emotional system adapts,
Speaker 1: and the thing that used to scare us doesn't scare us. Eventually,
Speaker 1: the thing that was hard becomes easy, the thing that
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable becomes comfortable. And it's not because it's changed,
Speaker 1: but rather because we've changed. And it's it is interesting
Speaker 1: too because when you especially something I was thinking about,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about doing ballet, you talk about dance
Speaker 1: or something, I'm thinking, well, one, I'd be terrible at that, obviously. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: like I think I would have to overcome my ego
Speaker 1: and my insecurity. And it's like, because my ego is ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and I'd have to beat that bitch into submission just
Speaker 1: to even think about walking in the door, right, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that would scare me more than get
Speaker 1: That would scare me more than me. And you're getting
Speaker 1: in the ring and you go HAPs I'm going to
Speaker 1: punch the shit out of you. I'd almost rather that
Speaker 1: than going and doing a ballet class. Not because I mean,
Speaker 1: ballet is fucking fantastic, but I realized how humiliated I'd be.
Speaker 3: It's quite amazing, mate. Honestly, that feeling. Me and my
Speaker 3: partner we did a contemporary classes recently and we're both nervous, anxious, fearful,
Speaker 3: all the emotions that are running through your body before
Speaker 3: or something like that. But then, as I mentioned before,
Speaker 3: like that feeling after. Honestly, we both felt like we
Speaker 3: could run through our chesters art where out with confident
Speaker 3: there's only growth from periods from situations like that, you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 1: I love also with the different things that you know,
Speaker 1: like with dance and like we're doing the army training
Speaker 1: and doing the philosophy class. I want to find all group.
Speaker 1: But also one of the things you said was having
Speaker 1: kind of hard conversations. I mean, that's a whole different
Speaker 1: thing without telling us what it was about. But who
Speaker 1: was that with friends family where you had to sit
Speaker 1: down and go deep on stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been There's been numerous ones, So I think
Speaker 3: I've done probably five all out. One with the next partner,
Speaker 3: and then there was one of my dad, one with
Speaker 3: my brother, and then the rest of my family. And
Speaker 3: these are just raising things that were like really sort
Speaker 3: of getting to me, making me really tense and anxious
Speaker 3: and nervous. And yeah, probably the hardest one was one
Speaker 3: with my dad. Me and my dad went through a
Speaker 3: period where a little a bit turmoil for a period
Speaker 3: of time. And every family's got their stuff, and I
Speaker 3: never forget. I wrote it on his birthday card saying
Speaker 3: happy birthdays, and I wrote like a little message on
Speaker 3: the bottom saying I really want to fix this and
Speaker 3: I love you all my heart and I've missed her
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. And I gave it
Speaker 3: to him and just watching he always has his bottom quiver,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that was like a really sort of beautiful moment.
Speaker 3: But then we went to breakfast and really spoke about
Speaker 3: what we both were going through, and yeah, I'm so
Speaker 3: happy that I built the courage and did that because
Speaker 3: now me and my dad had a really strong relationship
Speaker 3: and in order to just take from just taking up
Speaker 3: to building the courage and binding the bullet and even
Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out, like just going there and
Speaker 3: knowing that you've tried your best and you can look
Speaker 3: yourself in the mirror going I tried and that's all
Speaker 3: you can do.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, mate, Good for you. It's like things don't
Speaker 1: fix themselves, do they? Never that things will work themselves out?
Speaker 1: That's bullshit everyone. Just in case you didn't realize, did
Speaker 1: I also realize that you're a plumber or something?
Speaker 3: Did I? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Did I read that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I am mate. After I left school, I started
Speaker 3: working my dad as a roof tiler. Roof tiling is
Speaker 3: extremely physical and trying to manage boxing and roof tiling
Speaker 3: was hard. So I then got a job as a
Speaker 3: plumber and I work for my brother every opportunity I get.
Speaker 3: But at the moment I'm in Sydney and he's in Melbourne,
Speaker 3: so I'm out of shovel duty at the moment, which
Speaker 3: is great.
Speaker 1: Oh you enjoying that all right? Well, you're an absolute delight.
Speaker 1: And it's been really nice chatting to you. How do
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you and connect with you?
Speaker 1: And is there anything you want to point people towards
Speaker 1: that you would like my listeners, our listeners, I should
Speaker 1: say to support.
Speaker 3: The Reach Foundation is a really powerful organization. As I mentioned,
Speaker 3: they come to my life and I was at a
Speaker 3: bit of a crossroad. So and now I'm the person
Speaker 3: I am now pure because of myself, of course, but
Speaker 3: also from the help of Reach and my family. So
Speaker 3: Reach is awesome. And that uncomfortable challenge if you can
Speaker 3: think of anything, as I mentioned, dancing is a really
Speaker 3: really good one because it makes everyone uncomfortable unless you're
Speaker 3: a dancer. They go try it out and see how
Speaker 3: amazing you feel after.
Speaker 1: We'll give it a go. I just quickly did I
Speaker 1: did omit one thing, and that is I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you. This is terrible podcasting, harps, but everyone will cope.
Speaker 1: I'm your coach, is it Brian Levier? Is that how
Speaker 1: I say his name? Give us a quick He's been
Speaker 1: integral to your journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's seventy nine years old. This year he
Speaker 3: fought Johnny Fama Shan Lamrose back in his day, and
Speaker 3: he's based in Melbourne and I'm up in Sydney at
Speaker 3: the moment. But he'll always be on my team and
Speaker 3: will always be my coach. And I'm really grateful that
Speaker 3: I walked into that gym a young, timid boy who
Speaker 3: felt nothing like my brothers, so I lacked a little
Speaker 3: bit of confidence and he sort of fed me like
Speaker 3: Gustine Maato Mike Tarson's coach. He fed me with a
Speaker 3: lot of positivity. You're gonna be world champion one day.
Speaker 3: Your footwork's so good. And I mean, every young person
Speaker 3: wants to feel special. I was nine years old and
Speaker 3: every young person wants to feel special. And I'm really
Speaker 3: grateful that I found him because he made me feel
Speaker 3: special and I showed up every single day because I
Speaker 3: wanted to impress him. And yeah, I love him with
Speaker 3: all my heart. And as I said, he's seventy nine,
Speaker 3: so he's coming to the end of his boxing career,
Speaker 3: but he will always be my coach.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful mate. All right, how do people find you
Speaker 1: and follow you on socials? What's your what's all your
Speaker 1: handles and stuff?
Speaker 3: Instagram? It was just Harry Understall Garside and Facebook is
Speaker 3: Harry Garside, and then I think I got Twitter. I
Speaker 3: don't very rarely use it though I don't understand it
Speaker 3: that much, but it's Harry Garside too.
Speaker 1: Well, mate, we appreciate you being on the You project.
Speaker 1: You're a good man. Good luck with everything moving forward,
Speaker 1: good luck with that relationship. Well done on everything you've achieved.
Speaker 1: You're a fucking inspiration.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for it's really.
Speaker 1: Oh mate, you'll I love you. You're awesome. Thanks, stay there,
Speaker 1: say goodbye offair Tiff fellow boxer. Did do you know
Speaker 1: that Tiff has punched a fair few people in the
Speaker 1: ring herself.
Speaker 3: Let's go. I love that.
Speaker 1: What did you tell? Tell Harry what you won? No,
Speaker 1: it's not an Olympic bronze, but certainly not.
Speaker 2: But I won I won twice, the novice Victorian title
Speaker 2: and then v abl in twenty nineteen Victorian title.
Speaker 1: Yes, couple of little stint. I do love it and
Speaker 1: I do miss it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you're still doing it?
Speaker 2: No, no behind the mic now throwing punches here?
Speaker 1: How do you reckon? You go again?
Speaker 3: Harry?
Speaker 1: I reckon you are your speed and foot work. I
Speaker 1: reckon you might have.
Speaker 2: Him okay, at least eight or nine nine oh seconds
Speaker 2: longer than your seven. Maybe just because I'm quick to
Speaker 2: run away.
Speaker 1: Well, you definitely go better than me. Let's just say
Speaker 1: goodbye to everyone and then i'll say goodbye to you.
Speaker 1: Off there mate. Thanks everyone, Thanks Harry, Thanks Tiff,