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Speaker 1: as I call him, the Big h the big deal.

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Speaker 1: He's all of that. Hi, Tiff, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good aaps. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh bloody fantastic. I've had my coffee and I drank

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Speaker 1: all of it, unlike you.

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Speaker 2: Half your luck, mate, half your luck. Mine's spilled across

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Speaker 1: We're about three minutes before pressing the go button and

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Speaker 1: you just sat down with your coffee and spilled it everywhere.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't a little one. Look how big that

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Speaker 2: was was in my big true protein cap It was huge.

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Speaker 2: It was well everywhere.

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Speaker 1: No caffeen for you for the next forty five or

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes. You might not off, Harry, and I'll keepe

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Speaker 1: you well awake and entertained and amused. You better, Yeah, Harry,

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Speaker 1: Hi mate, welcome to the You project.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much having me on. I'm very

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Speaker 3: excited with you now.

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Speaker 1: You said before we rolled that you've listened to a

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Speaker 1: few episodes before Tiff even reached out to you. Where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. It was like about two

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Speaker 3: one of your podcasts. So, yeah, I think you have

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Speaker 3: an amazing podcast and I'm pretty honored to be on.

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Speaker 1: We're on a tab you you're bloody, You're, like I said,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been interesting, mate, I've spoke about this openly.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound cheesy, it sounds fucking great. I love

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think I'm trying my best

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Mate? And I'm still on that journey as we speak.

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Speaker 3: to be more relaxed and know myself more. And you

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00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 3: may think as boxes as being rough, and but I

436
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: also think that because we do combat, we're confident in ourselves,

437
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: we know our ability, and we're a lot more relaxed

438
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: because we're always releasing energy and more negative energy. And

439
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 3: the boxing community, I've met so many amazing people. And

440
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 3: there also is, of course bad people, but there's bad

441
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: people in all industries, and yeah, I think there's a

442
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: majority of really really good people in the boxing world.

443
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Speaker 1: Tell us about your tats.

444
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've covered got a big right right leg sleeve

445
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: full of my favorite boxers. So all of them except

446
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: for one went to the Olympics and representing their country

447
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: and did well and then termed professional and people like

448
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: Muhammad Ali for Salimamchenko, Sugar and Leonard Roy Jones Jr.

449
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins some of the best boxes of all time

450
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 3: and some of my favorites.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And also there was a couple

452
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Speaker 1: of notable exclusions based on kind of your value system.

453
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Speaker 1: Can you because some people have asked, you know why

454
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Speaker 1: you didn't get Mike Tyson or Floyd Mayweather, And if

455
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Speaker 1: I've got this right, the reason was that because Tyson

456
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Speaker 1: was convicted of rape and Mayweather was I think convicted

457
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Speaker 1: of domestic violence or beating his partner up.

458
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Speaker 3: Is that right, Yeah, that's correct, and not taking anything

459
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Speaker 3: away from them as athletes. They're unbelievable athletes. And I

460
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: just think our society, I think we've got to try

461
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: and change the narrative. And just because someone has a

462
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: lot of money, or they're good at a sport, or

463
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 3: they're famous or something like that, that doesn't mean that if

464
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: they do something wrong they should be looked any differently.

465
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't support or respect people like that.

466
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Speaker 3: As I said that, I always try my best as well.

467
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: I'm a pretty caring person. I always trying my best

468
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: to give people empathy and understand people grow and people evolve.

469
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Speaker 3: And and Mike Tyson, that happened almost twenty thirty years ago,

470
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: happened a long time ago, and who knows, you could

471
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Speaker 3: be a completely different person now, And same as Flo Maeather.

472
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 3: But I'm not supporting that, and I'm not supporting anyone

473
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Speaker 3: who supports that. And yeah, I'm no disrespected to them too.

474
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Speaker 3: As I said, we all grow as humans, we all evolve,

475
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: and we all change. But yeah, as I said, I

476
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Speaker 3: don't want to get people like that on my leg.

477
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to take a left turn. Tell me

478
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Speaker 1: about your spiritual life, because you've got a spiritual mum.

479
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's something going on. Do you have a

480
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Speaker 1: particular kind of practice or philosophy that is kind of

481
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Speaker 1: there's some kind of routine around that a life or

482
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: is it just a mindset or nothing at all.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sort of really figuring that out. So me

484
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: and me and my partner this year, we really set

485
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: a few goals to like we're at the fresh part

486
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: of our relationship, and I said, this year, I really

487
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: want to sort of I'm understand myself a lot more.

488
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 3: Only twenty four, I'm still sort of learning a lot

489
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: about the world and myself. And there's nothing really that

490
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: I do. I meditate daily, my journal like that, they're

491
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 3: not really that spiritual. But yeah, I attended last month

492
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: the philosophy meet up group and I was the youngest

493
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 3: by about thirty years, and that was quite amazing. But yeah,

494
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 3: I always just try my best and always try different

495
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: things and unique things. And as I mentioned, I did

496
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: a breathwork thing over the weekend, and this year I

497
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 3: really just wanted to spend a lot of time doing

498
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: a lot of self discovery and self growth, and yeah,

499
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've read Green Lights by Matthew McConaughey,

500
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: great boy, No I haven't. Yeah, it's a fantastic book.

501
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: And there's moments in his life that he felt it.

502
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I feel flat right now, because I don't,

503
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: but in his life where he felt a little bit

504
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: stale and flat and he's acting, and he went overseas

505
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 3: and he lived in the Amazon for a period of time.

506
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 3: He also lived in different places for a period of time,

507
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: and you and I love that. And he really sort

508
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: of just delved into himself and spent time by himself

509
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: and understood himself more. And then he come back and

510
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: now he's one of the most famous actors of all time.

511
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Speaker 3: So yeah, if that happens this year, maybe, who knows.

512
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Speaker 1: I think it's did you say it's called green Lights?

513
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 3: Green Lights? Correct?

514
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to get it. I'm going to

515
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: get it on audible today. I'm just writing it down.

516
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: This is not very good for a podcast, but stuff. Yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: I feel like that being able to spend real time

518
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: away from your normal life, like whatever your normal life is,

519
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: to get completely away from it and even from the

520
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: people that you spend time with, not because they're good

521
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: or bad, but I think being in a different environment,

522
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: different energy, different schedule, different responsibilities for the day, where

523
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: you're totally out of your normal groundhog dayess of existence,

524
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Speaker 1: I think that it can give you a perspective that

525
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: you can't get when you're in the middle of your life.

526
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Speaker 1: You know, I had this kind of almost well, I

527
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Speaker 1: would call it an epiphany when I was in my

528
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: thirties and I had all these businesses Harrian and everything

529
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: was going well, and I had five businesses. Life was good,

530
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Speaker 1: I was making good money, I had lots of staff.

531
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Speaker 1: But in the middle of it, I wasn't particularly happy.

532
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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to bore my listeners who have heard this,

533
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: but the quick version is, I went away and spent

534
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: ten days by myself. So I didn't work and I

535
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: didn't have a phone call, and I didn't have a conversation,

536
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't have a computer, and I didn't like

537
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything that I normally did, and I

538
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: spent ten days alone and not sitting in a room.

539
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Speaker 2: But I.

540
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Speaker 1: Was on the beach, in nature. I was doing a

541
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: whole lot of things, but I did everything by myself,

542
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't actually other than ordering a coffee or something.

543
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: I didn't have a conversation at all with anyone. And

544
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: it was the most profound ten days of my life

545
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: in terms of.

546
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: It.

547
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Speaker 1: And I wish everyone would all, particularly everyone who's trying

548
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: to kind of in inverted commas, find themselves or understand

549
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: themselves a bit more. I think you can never do

550
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: that better than when you're away from your normal life

551
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: and situation and relationships and commitments, because you get a

552
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: level of clarity and awareness that you can't get when

553
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of it, you know. And it

554
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: reminds me of there's a guy called Gerber who wrote

555
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: a book years ago called The e Myth, and he

556
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: talks about not being able to work on the business

557
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: while you're in the business, and I feel like it's

558
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: like that with your life. When you're in the middle

559
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: of it, it's hard to find the perspective that's really

560
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: going to be powerful, and when you're away from it,

561
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: you see things that you can't see, you know. So

562
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: I definitely recommend, and I know ten days is a lot,

563
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: but I recommend people do even yearly, annually, even two

564
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: days where you're by yourself for two days and you're

565
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: not you're not reading newspapers, and you're not online, and

566
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: you're not looking at your phone, you're not looking at

567
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 1: a computer. You don't have distractions. At the best you

568
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: have is a pad and a pen so you can

569
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: get shit out of your head and your heart and

570
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: down onto a book. But yeah, I definitely think that

571
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: that that there's a real potential for us to live

572
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: unconsciously where you kind of wake up in a minute

573
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: and you go, oh and now I'm thirty Oh fuck,

574
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: what have I been doing? Oh I'm thirty five? Shit,

575
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: rather than creating the life that you want. Like so

576
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: many people I've spoken to over the years have said

577
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: a version of this to me. You know, they sit

578
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: in front of me we're doing a coaching session or

579
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: having a chat or whatever, and they go, they're forty

580
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: five now or forty or fifty or whatever, and they go,

581
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: this wasn't my plan. But when you unpack it, they

582
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: didn't really have a plan as in a structure and

583
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: a process and a timeline and a due list. They

584
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: just really had an idea of how their life would

585
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: end up, you know, because life's going to happen anyway,

586
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: and you're either going to be the driver or you're

587
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: going to be the passenger. And most people think they're

588
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: the driver, but they're the passenger, I believe, And so

589
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: it's about swapping seats and taking taking control again. But

590
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm banging on and I don't know why I'm telling

591
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: you all this, but maybe it's relevant. I want to

592
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: ask you, though, what would you like to be happening

593
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Speaker 1: when you're so you're twenty four now, I think I'm

594
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: looking at what would you like to be happening when

595
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: you're thirty? If things go great?

596
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just just on what you're speaking about as well.

597
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: I think us as humans that the longest relationship we

598
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: have is the relationship we have with ourself, And as

599
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: you mentioned, I think a lot of people will sometimes

600
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: have a pretty poor relationship withself because they don't really

601
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: understand themselves. And I realized recently I'm purely just I'm

602
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: chasing happiness. I want more good days and bad days,

603
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: as simple as that. And of course bad days are

604
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: inevitable and they make the good days even better. But

605
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: boxing makes me really happy, and if it didn't make

606
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: me happy, I'd probably do something else. It's all I know.

607
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but it still makes me extremely happy.

608
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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's what I realized. I think I'm chasing

609
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 3: happiness rather than chasing success or fame or anything like that.

610
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: And that stuff just comes when passionately and you show

611
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: up every day and you consistent with what you're doing.

612
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: But thirty, what do I want to be when I'm thirty?

613
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: Where do I want to be? I think I definitely

614
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: want to be a father one day. I've never said

615
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: that publicly, but yeah, I always growing up, I never

616
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: really thought that I really wanted kids, And then you

617
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: get to an age and I think something's just spark

618
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: in your head and you go, I want to I

619
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: want to try my best to be a good father

620
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: like my dad was. And yeah, so one day I

621
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Speaker 3: when I have kids, hopefully by the time I'm thirty,

622
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: and I want to be world champion. I want to

623
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: have a business on the side as well, And yeah,

624
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: I would love to open a boxing gym one day.

625
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: Maybe not by the time I'm thirty, but maybe more

626
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: when I'm forty to fifty and have it in like

627
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: a low SoC circond on the area and have it

628
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: like free for kids. Imagine somewhere in victory. I don't

629
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: know where you're from originally, but somewhere like Dandinong or

630
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: somewhere in Sydney in the West Mount Droug or something

631
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: like that, having a boxing gym and really showing young

632
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: people like life lessons. Not really, I couldn't really care

633
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: less about creating champions, but just creating like life lessons

634
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: and good people.

635
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: That's such a good buddy goal. Well, mate, if you

636
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: ever do that, hit me up. If I'm still alive,

637
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: I could be well dead by then, but anyway, I'd

638
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: love to support it. Where are you at at the

639
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: minute with training and competing and like, what's what's to

640
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: go about now?

641
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm currently about six seven weeks out from a competition,

642
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: so I'm fighting in March, at the end of March,

643
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: start of April, so they haven't really finalized a date yet,

644
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: but I'm just in deep training at the moment, made

645
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling good. I'm feeling really good. I had

646
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: a good break over Christmas, and last year was pretty

647
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: full on for everyone and obviously with COVID, and it's

648
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: still sort of lingering a little bit. But yeah, I

649
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Speaker 3: had a really good break and I'm happy for that.

650
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: I feel really refreshed this year and just excited to

651
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: knock out this next fight and then have a big year.

652
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Did you get much kind of international attention or interest

653
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: when after the Olympics, Like, I don't know how it works.

654
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Do people hit you up for fights and to bring

655
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: you out and all of that.

656
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have like contracts, so like they give

657
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: you boxing contracts and post Olympics, I had three contracts

658
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: offered to me, one from USA, one from UK and

659
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: then one from Australia and all obviously difference in money

660
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: and time and fights and stuff like that. But yeah,

661
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: I chose to stay in Australia purely for two reasons.

662
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: My partner and her are really fresh, and I just

663
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: you've got to follow your heart. As similar as that,

664
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: I moved too much from Melbourne to Sydney to follow

665
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: my heart, and I made a good choice. I think

666
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: it's going really well so and as well in the Amateurs,

667
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: I traveled more more times than I stayed at home,

668
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: So to be only two hours from my family in

669
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: Melbourne via a flight, it's a lot better than always traveling.

670
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, eventually I want to go to the States

671
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: or UK. But at the moment, I'm saying in Australia

672
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: because this is my home. And yeah, I chose this

673
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: contract because it was the best for me and my

674
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: family and partner.

675
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to ask about the partner or do

676
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: we have to stay covert and dark?

677
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: Of course, ask away. She's a legend.

678
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Tell us about her.

679
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: She's beautiful's a little bit older than me, so I'm

680
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: twenty four, she's thirty three, which is probably I think

681
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: what I needed. Yeah, someone who's She's definitely made me.

682
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: She challenged me in ways I've never been challenged before,

683
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: and I think every relationship does that. And she's super ambitious,

684
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: she's super switched on. Has her own thing called hit

685
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: like a Girl, and it's all about women empowerment, and

686
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: she's really passionate about it. And I just love someone

687
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: living their true self. And she left her job in

688
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: HR and the corporate world and she started this business

689
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: like a Girl and she's doing so well. And as

690
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: I said, she's so passionate about it, and I can

691
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: it oozes off and I really sort of spills into

692
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: my cup as well. How passionate and motivated she is

693
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: for what she's doing. And yeah, I'm over heels made.

694
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 3: It's a honeymoon stage. You don't get me wrong, but it's.

695
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: You bloody I love and old Goo Goo's really exciting.

696
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.

697
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: What's her name, Ashley Ruscoe?

698
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: All right? Give her hit up on Instagram, give her

699
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: a bit of a follow everyone, and give her a

700
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: little bit of love and support. Do you and her

701
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: train together?

702
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: I never forget out there. They were both very competitive

703
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: and the first training session we ever did together was

704
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: a run and I never forget this. We s out

705
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, we're just found like four minute and

706
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: thirty k's. By the end of it, we're like sprinting downhill.

707
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: We're both going so hard. But she's really she really fit,

708
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: really healthy, and we love training together. She's she's awesome.

709
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: And what how does she compliment you?

710
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: Like?

711
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: What does she? I mean, apart from the fact that

712
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: you love each other, which is an ace of course,

713
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: what does she How does she keep you in check?

714
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: Does she monitor your bullshit? Does she you know? Does

715
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: she keep you in line?

716
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely? And I think, like I've realized I've had your

717
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: success and failure and sport family dramas we all have them,

718
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: and nothing challenges you more than a relationship, because they

719
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: really sort of they come into a space that not

720
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: many people can see and they're the closest one to

721
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 3: you time. And don't get me wrong, sometimes comps, I'm

722
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: super sort of uptighted, I'm anxious, I'm nervous, I'm fearful,

723
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: there's a lot going through my body. And yeah, sometimes

724
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: I can be a bit of a jerk and she

725
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: really put me in place and it's good, and same

726
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: goes on both ends. Sometimes she's irritable and stuff like that.

727
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: But we really sort of have the best communication, and

728
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: I think we've set a really good foundation for the

729
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: rest of our relationship. And we communicate really well with

730
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: each other and nothing's off limits, and when we're feeling things,

731
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: we try best to say it instantly rather than letting

732
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: it linger and maybe build resentment eventually. But yeah, I'm

733
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: really sort of happy and proud of both of us for,

734
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: as I said, the foundations that we've built so far

735
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: and in the last six seven months.

736
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: Good for you, man, Well, I hope that's a long, happy,

737
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: healthy relationship. Now a few more minutes, if you'd be

738
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: so generous, tell us a little bit. Obviously, my background.

739
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Part of my background is working with teams and athletes

740
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: and in conditioning and sports science. Tell us about your

741
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: According to the things that I read, anyway, somewhat unique

742
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: approach to conditioning and training like ballet and army training

743
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: and karaoke. Karaoke Is that training?

744
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was. So we did this program called the

745
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: gold met Already program. It was with the Commander Regiment

746
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: and the AUSTRALNGE Board and the biggest thing I took

747
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: from it was get comfortable being uncomfortable. And since the

748
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: start of twenty nineteen, so the last three years, I've

749
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: been doing challenges and I've done things like start ballet, karaoke,

750
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: had really hard conversations with my family and family and friends,

751
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: and thirteen hours straight in the bike, so many other things.

752
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: Philosophy met up with it last month. There's so many

753
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: things that I've done and each seeing I've learned something

754
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: new from And yeah, I encourage anyone if there's something

755
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: that you find uncomfortable, whether it be this really simple one.

756
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: As I go to a dance class, we all feel uncomfortable.

757
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: We all feel nervous, we all feel anxious. Before that,

758
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: we all feel like we're going to get judged or embarrassed,

759
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: but that feeling after you accomplish that is quite amazing

760
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: and and you feel like you can run through a

761
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: brick wall. And there's only growth from situations like that.

762
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: And I'm really grateful for the Goldment Ready program.

763
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean the truth is, I love that

764
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: idea and it's a philosophy of mine that I teach

765
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: as well, is that like, we can't build strength without

766
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: getting uncomfortable, right, Like you're literally working against resistance in

767
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: the gym, working against resistance in life. And you know,

768
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: our body adapts, our mind adapts, our emotional system adapts,

769
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: and the thing that used to scare us doesn't scare us. Eventually,

770
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: the thing that was hard becomes easy, the thing that

771
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable becomes comfortable. And it's not because it's changed,

772
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: but rather because we've changed. And it's it is interesting

773
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: too because when you especially something I was thinking about,

774
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: when you're talking about doing ballet, you talk about dance

775
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: or something, I'm thinking, well, one, I'd be terrible at that, obviously. Nonetheless,

776
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: like I think I would have to overcome my ego

777
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: and my insecurity. And it's like, because my ego is ridiculous,

778
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: and I'd have to beat that bitch into submission just

779
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: to even think about walking in the door, right, And

780
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that would scare me more than get

781
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: That would scare me more than me. And you're getting

782
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: in the ring and you gohaps, I'm going to punch

783
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: the shit out of you. I'd almost rather that than

784
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: going and doing a ballet class. Not because I mean,

785
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: ballet is fucking fantastic, but I realized how humiliated I'd be.

786
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: It's quite amazing, mate. Honestly, that feeling. Me and my

787
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: partner we did a contemporary classes recently and we're both nervous, anxious, fearful,

788
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: all the emotions that are running through your body before

789
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: or something like that. But then, as I mentioned before,

790
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: like that feeling after. Honestly, we both felt like we

791
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: could run through our chesters up where out with confident.

792
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: There's only growth from periods from situations like that, you

793
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: know what.

794
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: I love also with the different things that you know,

795
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: like with dance and like we're doing the army training

796
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: and doing the philosophy class. I want to find all group.

797
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: But also one of the things you said was having

798
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: kind of hard conversations I mean, that's a whole different

799
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: thing without telling us what it was about. But who

800
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: was that with friends family where you had to sit

801
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: down and go deep on stuff. Yeah, there's been.

802
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: There's been numerous ones, So I think I've done probably

803
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: five all out. One with the next partner, and then

804
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: there was one of my dad, one with my brother,

805
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: and then the rest of my family. And these are

806
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: just raising things that were like really sort of getting

807
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: to me, making me really tense and anxious and nervous.

808
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: And yeah, probably the hardest one was one with my dad.

809
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: Me and my dad went through a period where a

810
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: little a bit turmoil for a period of time. And

811
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: every family's got their stuff, and I never forget. I

812
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: wrote it on his birthday card saying happy birthdays, and

813
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: I wrote like a little message on the bottom saying

814
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: I really want to fix this and I love you

815
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: all my heart and I've missed her over the last

816
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: couple of years. And I gave it to him and

817
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: just watching he always has his bottom quiver, and yeah,

818
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: that was like a really sort of beautiful moment. But

819
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: then we went to breakfast and really spoke about what

820
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: we both were going through, and yeah, I'm so happy

821
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: that I built the courage and did that because now

822
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: me and my dad had a really strong relationship and

823
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: in order to just take from just taking up to

824
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: building the courage and binding the bullet and even if

825
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, like just going there and knowing

826
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: that you've tried your best and you can look yourself

827
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: in the mirror going I tried and that's all you

828
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: can do.

829
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing, mate, Good for you. It's like things don't

830
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: fix themselves, do they? Never that things will work themselves out?

831
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: That's bullshit everyone. Just in case you didn't realize, did

832
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: I also realize that you're a plumber or something?

833
00:41:59,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: Did I?

834
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Sorry? Did I read that?

835
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? I am mate. After I left school, I started

836
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: working my dad as a roof tiler. Roof tiling is

837
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: extremely physical and trying to manage boxing and roof tiling

838
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: was hard. So I then got a job as a

839
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: plumber and I work for my brother every opportunity I get.

840
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: But at the moment I'm in Sydney and he's in Melbourne,

841
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: so I'm out of shovel duty at the moment, which

842
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: is great.

843
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh you enjoying that all right? Well, you're an absolute

844
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: delight and it's been really nice chatting to you. How

845
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: do people find you and follow you and connect with you?

846
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: And is there anything you want to point people towards

847
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: that you would like my listeners, our listeners, I should

848
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: say to support.

849
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: The Reach Foundation is a really powerful organization. As I mentioned,

850
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: they come to my life and I was at a

851
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: bit of a crossroad. So and now I'm the person

852
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: I am now pure because of myself, of course, but

853
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: also from the help of Reach and my family. So

854
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: Reach is awesome. And that uncomfortable challenge if you can

855
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: think of anything, as I mentioned, dancing is a really

856
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 3: really good one because it makes everyone uncomfortable unless you're

857
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: a dancer. They go try it out and see how

858
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: amazing you feel after.

859
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: We'll give it a go. I just quickly did I

860
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: did omit one thing, and that is I wanted to

861
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: ask you. This is terrible podcasting, harps, but everyone will cope.

862
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm your coach, is it Brian Levier? Is that how

863
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: I say his name? Give us a quick He's been

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Speaker 1: integral to your journey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's seventy nine years old. This year he

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Speaker 3: fought Johnny Fama. Shan Lamrose back in his day and

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Speaker 3: he's based in Melbourne and I'm up in Sydney at

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Speaker 3: the moment. But he'll always be on my team and

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Speaker 3: will always be my coach. And I'm really grateful that

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Speaker 3: I walked into that gym a young, timid boy who

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Speaker 3: felt nothing like my brothers, so I lacked a little

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Speaker 3: bit of confidence and he sort of fed me like

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Speaker 3: Gustine Maato Mike Tarson's coach. He fed me with a

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Speaker 3: lot of positivity. You're gonna be world champion one day.

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Speaker 3: Your footwork's so good. And I mean, every young person

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Speaker 3: wants to feel special. I was nine years old and

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Speaker 3: every young person wants to feel special. And I'm really

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Speaker 3: grateful that I found him because he made me feel

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Speaker 3: special and I showed up every single day because I

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Speaker 3: wanted to impress him. And yeah, I love him with

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Speaker 3: all my heart. And as I said, he's seventy nine,

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Speaker 3: so he's coming to the end of his boxing career,

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Speaker 3: but he will always be my coach.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful mate.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: How do people find you and follow you on socials?

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Speaker 1: What's your what's all your handles and stuff?

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Speaker 3: Instagram? It was just Harry Understall, Garside and Facebook, is

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Speaker 3: Harry Garside, And then I think I got Twitter. I

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Speaker 3: don't very rarely use it though I don't understand it

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Speaker 3: that much, but it's Harry Garside too.

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Speaker 1: Well, mate, we appreciate you being on the You project.

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Speaker 1: You're a good man. Good luck with everything moving forward,

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Speaker 1: good luck with that relationship. Well done on everything you've achieved.

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Speaker 1: You're a fucking inspiration.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for it's really.

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, you'll I love you. You're awesome. Thanks, stay there,

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Speaker 1: say goodbye offair Tiff fellow boxer. Did do you know

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Speaker 1: that Tiff has punched a fair few people in the

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Speaker 1: ring herself?

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Speaker 3: Let's go. I love that?

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Speaker 1: What did you tell? Tell Harry what you won? No,

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Speaker 1: it's not an Olympic bronze, but certainly not.

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Speaker 2: But I won I won twice, the novice Victorian title

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Speaker 2: and then v abl in twenty nineteen Victorian title.

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Speaker 1: Yes, couple of little stint. I do love it and

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Speaker 1: I do miss it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you're still doing it?

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Speaker 2: No, no behind the mic, now throwing punches here?

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Speaker 1: How do you reckon? You go again?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: I reckon you are your speed and foot work. I

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Speaker 1: reckon you might have.

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Speaker 2: Him okay, at least eight or nine nine oh seconds

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Speaker 2: longer than your seven. Maybe just because I'm quick to

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Speaker 2: run away.

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Speaker 1: Well, you definitely go better than me. Let's just say

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Speaker 1: goodbye to everyone and then i'll say goodbye to you.

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Speaker 1: Off there mate. Thanks everyone, Thanks Harry, Thanks Tiff,