1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Hello, it's men. Who's again missus Duke Payer? Is it? 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Or is it Evie Jones? It's bloody Ena Jones again. 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Oh. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I was listening to the Stellar podcast and Kate. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Langbrook was on it this week talking about the glamor gap. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Have you heard of such a thing? Oh my god. 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: If you haven't heard about it, you've definitely experienced it. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: It's when women get ready versus when men get ready, 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: the time difference. And it's not only the time, it 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: is I think finances, like, oh my god, this is 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: why we need to actually be paid more than men, 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: because what we spend on our cells. 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking just to go out. 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: So Kate was talking about on the project takes anything 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: between forty five and ninety minutes. 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: And that's true. 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: You sit in that chair and they do your hair 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: and makeup. You can have two women working on you 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: at the same time. And then you go and you 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: have a meeting. You see what's on for the show 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: that night, and then you go and see what your 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: clothes are, and then you go and put your clothes on, 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: and then you go back to hair and makeup to 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: do any touch ups, and then you go into the studio. 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: When you go back to do touch ups, that's when 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: the men come in and they if they want makeup, 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: they can have it. But if they don't, it's just powdered, 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: so they don't shine on camera. I mean, this is 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 2: just a given and we all just accept it, which 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: is fine. That's the world we live in. But my 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: biggest problem is the money that comes with what we 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 2: spend to go out. Let's just have a date. The bloke, 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, he just plops something on, even if he's 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: brought something new, whatever, he will wear it a million times, 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: shaves his face, puts his what do they put in 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 2: their hair there, it's a funny word, pomarred. 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: They're wax. 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 2: Some of them. Even my last boyfriend used to blow 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: dry his hair and he would do a hot tongue, 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: not a hot tongue. It was a straightener, but he 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: would twist it. He knew how to do that. 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: He was better than me. 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: I thought he had naturally buffy hair. He didn't flat 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: ass hair. So we're actually bringing men in if anything. 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: But that was it. 46 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: He also wore makeup, so but that was it. He 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: only wore foundation and he would cover up any of 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: his imperfections. Just skin wise, we have to wax, shave, pluck, bleach. 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm thinking bleach hair on the head, bleach hair on 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: the face. If that's what you do. Some women do 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: their arms lighter hair. We have to fake tan, we 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: have to exfoliate. 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: We buy the. 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: All of the face creams, all of the stuff, the makeup. Like, 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: you give me one woman's makeup bag that doesn't completely 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 2: cover an entire bathroom cabinet, then and I will give 57 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: you a unicorn. 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: The clothes, A lot of women will not wear the 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: same clothes again because of societal standards. 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I say fuck that. 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm all about recycling fashion, and I'm all about slow 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: fashion as well, you know, all of that kind of stuff. 64 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: So never and you know I'm in the public eye. 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I will be. 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: Seen on red carpets wearing the same thing again and 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: again and again. And I have no shame in it 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: at all. If anything, I am proud to show how 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: easy it is to do and how it's not embarrassing 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: at all. And then the accessories that go in hair, 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: the accessories a go on your ears, accessories go around 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: your neck, the accessories that go on your hands, on 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: your wrists everything. You've spent at least one hundred bucks 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: before you've even walked out the front door to go 75 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: on that date he has spent I mean, if he's 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: had a haircut, twenty five bucks, because men's haircuts are 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: so much cheaper than ours, and I'm sorry they take 78 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: so much more to cut their hair than we do 79 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: to trim it. If it's long, Why are we paying 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: seventy five dollars a haircut and they're paying twenty five. 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Some of them get given. 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: A beer, you know, you know, I mean, they've got 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: decks in barbers these days, dogs on skateboards. Don't get 84 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: me started. 85 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying that. 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Kate Langbrook said she just refuses to do it anymore, 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: and you know what, so do I I've been growing 88 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: out my body hair for years and you all know 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: about it, bloody proud of it. 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: You're really odd thing. 91 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: And I've said this on the podcast back in the 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: days when Andrew was on, a lot of people say, oh, 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: my boyfriend. 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't like it. 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: You know, don't ever assume ask him because I had 96 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: a boyfriend that just never told me that he was 97 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: into a full bush. 98 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Had I known, Oh. 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: My God, the ingrown hairs that would have been saved, 100 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: the pain that would have been saved if he had 101 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: just told me, Because apparently that's a fetish now become 102 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: a fetish natural bodies. Ooh ah, I like real boob. Sorry, 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: useless fact for you or is it useful? You're going 104 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: to use it this week? 105 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Did you ever know? Did you ever? Did you ever? 106 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: Have you ever wondered where the term eat humble pie 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: comes from? 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever eaten humble pie? Well? I have? 109 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: I hate it on the weekend, but of course I 110 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: doubled down and turned it around and gas li it 111 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: my friend. Anyway, the history of the phrase is derived 112 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: from pie what, but not the American version There's warmest 113 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: apple pie across the pond. In Britain, pies are savory. 114 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: Well guess what the savory In Australia as well, we're 115 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: kind of known for them. Ever heard of us typically 116 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: containing meat and vegetables that are contained within a pastry shell. 117 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thanks Rach for making that entire description 118 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: of what a pie is in a pastry shell? Is 119 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: it's encased? Numbles refer to the entrails organs of animals, 120 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: and they used to be baked into a pie. It 121 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: has been suggested that the good meat of an animal 122 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: was reserved for those in the higher classes of subsaty, 123 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: while the rest of the animal was given. 124 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: To the servants. 125 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Or my family, because we didn't have enough money to 126 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: afford the good meat. 127 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: That's why you in and learn how I still know 128 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: how to cook cheap meat. 129 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: However, there are accounts that contradicted this theory. Regardless, over time, 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: a numble pie became a humble pie, which then became 131 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: a humble pie. So have you ever eaten it? If 132 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: you're rich and hoited toyture and you had to add 133 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: a numble pie, weren't you slumming with the low lives dollar. 134 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: I've just started Call the Midwife back to season one, 135 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: so I'll let you all know how that goes, because 136 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of numble pies back. 137 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: In the thars doors right. Have a lovely week. I 138 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: hope you don't get any bad news this week. I 139 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: hope you only get good news. Love you bye.