1 00:00:03,430 --> 00:00:05,750 Speaker 1: I wanted to start by just asking you a bit 2 00:00:05,790 --> 00:00:08,990 Speaker 1: about your son, Jared. He was just 22 when he died. 3 00:00:09,410 --> 00:00:10,750 Speaker 1: Can you tell me a bit about who he was? 4 00:00:10,770 --> 00:00:15,150 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he left school, he went to uni to 5 00:00:15,230 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: study psychology. He found that a bit depressing, so he 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: then got a scholarship in writing. 7 00:00:22,860 --> 00:00:24,340 Speaker 3: He was quite an intelligent boy. 8 00:00:24,380 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: He was definitely lovely and loving, but he wasn't worldly, 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,740 Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. He was kind of 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,190 Speaker 2: naive to the world, but intelligent, yeah. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,940 Speaker 4: Kath Madgwick has been to hell and back. 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: It's taken a big toll. It's taken a huge toll. 13 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:41,860 Speaker 2: You know, even people that have known me for years, 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,770 Speaker 2: they can see that there's a sadness in me. 15 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:46,870 Speaker 3: I don't want to cry. 16 00:00:47,430 --> 00:00:50,170 Speaker 4: One of the most recognisable faces of the Royal Commission 17 00:00:50,210 --> 00:00:53,110 Speaker 4: into Brobo debt, her only son, Jared, took his own 18 00:00:53,170 --> 00:01:02,380 Speaker 4: life after being told he owed Services Australia nearly $ 2, 000. 19 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: Kath has been fighting ever since. The Royal Commission report 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: dedicated over a page to her story, but now Kath 21 00:01:06,180 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: says she's experiencing injustice of another kind. Booted out of 22 00:01:09,980 --> 00:01:15,209 Speaker 4: the $ 475 million Robodeck class action, her compensation claim over 23 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:19,830 Speaker 4: Jared's death has been denied by the Commonwealth. I'm Ruby Jones, 24 00:01:20,050 --> 00:01:24,390 Speaker 4: and you're listening to 7am. Today, Kath Madgwick on how, 25 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:26,730 Speaker 4: even as one of the worst affected victims of the 26 00:01:26,770 --> 00:01:37,410 Speaker 4: Robodeck saga, she's somehow missed out. It's Monday, October 12. 27 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:46,220 Speaker 4: And a warning, this episode mentions suicide. Taff, your son, Jared, 28 00:01:46,660 --> 00:01:48,660 Speaker 4: he died after being told he owed this debt to 29 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:52,940 Speaker 4: Centrelink of nearly $ 2, 000. Can you tell me a bit 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,580 Speaker 4: about that call and what happened? 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: So originally I found Jared on the 1st of June. 32 00:01:59,610 --> 00:02:01,670 Speaker 2: He'd taken his life on the 30th of May, which 33 00:02:01,930 --> 00:02:04,710 Speaker 2: we'd had two families. lengthy phone calls with Centrelink that 34 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:07,770 Speaker 2: day and just before he died he mentioned this debt 35 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:10,609 Speaker 2: and that he wasn't going to get paid because of 36 00:02:10,650 --> 00:02:15,589 Speaker 2: the debt. Jared had a loan that he got for 37 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: a car and he had some fines. When he was 38 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:21,900 Speaker 2: told that he wasn't going to get paid because of 39 00:02:21,940 --> 00:02:24,300 Speaker 2: this debt he thought he was going to default on 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: his loans, he was probably going to go to jail 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,549 Speaker 2: for his fines and his life was ruined. You could 42 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:33,330 Speaker 2: see that he was feeling like he was a burden 43 00:02:33,410 --> 00:02:36,290 Speaker 2: on me. You know, I happened to have lost my job, 44 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:38,790 Speaker 2: which was no fault of my own. They couldn't afford 45 00:02:38,810 --> 00:02:41,570 Speaker 2: to keep me on. So I couldn't do anything about 46 00:02:41,610 --> 00:02:43,290 Speaker 2: it for the first time in my life. It was 47 00:02:43,570 --> 00:02:45,090 Speaker 2: like the perfect storm, really. 48 00:02:46,669 --> 00:02:48,709 Speaker 4: And can you tell me a bit about the journey 49 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:51,940 Speaker 4: that you then went on, trying to find some answers 50 00:02:52,060 --> 00:02:54,460 Speaker 4: and get accountability for what had happened? 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,270 Speaker 2: So once I found him, I then rang Centrelink and 52 00:02:59,350 --> 00:03:01,810 Speaker 2: I questioned the debt. I questioned a whole heap of 53 00:03:01,850 --> 00:03:04,130 Speaker 2: things because I didn't even know what robo debt was. 54 00:03:04,930 --> 00:03:09,690 Speaker 2: But the debt definitely become one of my questions. Where 55 00:03:09,710 --> 00:03:12,290 Speaker 2: did this debt come from? I was speaking to a 56 00:03:12,350 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: social worker and he then hung up the phone, rang 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: me on the fourth and. 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: Said, oh, it was an old debt. 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: We wiped it. I wrote letters to the Prime Minister 60 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: and the Services Australia Minister and never got a response. 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: So then I went to Emily. 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: McPherson and told her the story and she alerted me 63 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:36,620 Speaker 2: that it could have been a robo-debt. Centrelink's robo-debt system 64 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:39,030 Speaker 2: has its critics and this mum wants it fixed. 65 00:03:39,490 --> 00:03:43,430 Speaker 5: Kath says the controversial debt recovery scheme pushed her son 66 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:44,330 Speaker 5: over the edge. 67 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:47,010 Speaker 2: So she did the story, ended up on a current affair. 68 00:03:47,490 --> 00:03:49,090 Speaker 2: Then they wanted to know me. Mm. 69 00:03:50,070 --> 00:03:53,130 Speaker 4: And so after that story, you met with the Deputy 70 00:03:53,170 --> 00:03:55,490 Speaker 4: Chief of Services Australia at the time. 71 00:03:56,170 --> 00:03:56,750 Speaker 1: What were you told? 72 00:03:57,550 --> 00:04:00,370 Speaker 2: So I had a meeting with Michelle Lees and she 73 00:04:00,410 --> 00:04:03,890 Speaker 2: said there was no debt, which confused me greatly because 74 00:04:03,970 --> 00:04:04,330 Speaker 2: I was. 75 00:04:04,230 --> 00:04:06,780 Speaker 3: Like, how can you wipe a debt when there's no debt? 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,060 Speaker 2: You know, nothing was fitting together and I just kept 77 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,900 Speaker 2: pushing and pushing and pushing because they wouldn't give me 78 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:16,340 Speaker 2: the information I needed to put my mind at rest. 79 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:19,050 Speaker 2: which is something, when it's your child, you need to 80 00:04:19,089 --> 00:04:21,810 Speaker 2: know the ins and outs of everything. And I knew 81 00:04:21,890 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: it had something to do with him taking his life 82 00:04:23,860 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: because there was nothing else happening in the house. 83 00:04:31,540 --> 00:04:33,620 Speaker 6: Miss Madgwick, can you tell the Commission your full. 84 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: Name, please? 85 00:04:34,380 --> 00:04:35,550 Speaker 3: Kathleen Beryl Madgwick. 86 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:38,869 Speaker 6: And your son was Jared Madgwick? 87 00:04:39,190 --> 00:04:39,690 Speaker 3: That's correct. 88 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:44,390 Speaker 2: So, yeah, then I went to the Royal Commission and 89 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:49,110 Speaker 2: gave evidence there. He came out and he said that 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: now I'm not going to get paid because I owe 91 00:04:52,140 --> 00:04:58,260 Speaker 2: them $ 2, 000. 92 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: Getting to that Royal Commission, it took several years, but 93 00:04:58,700 --> 00:04:59,820 Speaker 4: it did eventually happen. 94 00:05:00,260 --> 00:05:03,380 Speaker 5: The Royal Commission into the robo-debt scandal has handed down 95 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:07,210 Speaker 5: its findings into the unlawful scheme, recommending its architects be 96 00:05:07,250 --> 00:05:09,650 Speaker 5: referred for criminal and civil prosecution. 97 00:05:10,190 --> 00:05:11,370 Speaker 4: How important was that for you? 98 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: Really important. Really important for people to hear that. his 99 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:19,820 Speaker 2: story because it's really important to me, not only for 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,860 Speaker 2: his memory, but also I just hope that no other 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: child goes through that, no other young person. 102 00:05:26,779 --> 00:05:30,219 Speaker 4: And at the end of the Royal Commission, you and 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,260 Speaker 4: your son's story, it was all mentioned in the final report. 104 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: And that report found that the way that he was 105 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:40,580 Speaker 4: informed about this potential debt with Centrelink, that was a 106 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:45,130 Speaker 4: precipitating factor in his death. And The report said his case, 107 00:05:45,210 --> 00:05:49,650 Speaker 4: it exemplified a particular aspect of the scheme's brutality, which 108 00:05:49,770 --> 00:05:54,460 Speaker 4: is this bold online statement to someone who already is 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,500 Speaker 4: in dire financial straits with no indication of how it 110 00:05:58,540 --> 00:06:03,219 Speaker 4: might be repaid. That recognition of what had happened, that 111 00:06:03,260 --> 00:06:04,140 Speaker 4: must have meant a lot. 112 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,500 Speaker 3: Oh, it meant the world. 113 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,220 Speaker 2: I really loved the Commissioner and the whole Royal Commission team. 114 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:11,659 Speaker 3: For the way that I was treated. 115 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:16,670 Speaker 2: For listening to my story and understanding what the story was. 116 00:06:18,370 --> 00:06:20,729 Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't thank them enough. They were wonderful. 117 00:06:21,190 --> 00:06:23,550 Speaker 4: And so when it was announced that the federal government 118 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:29,620 Speaker 4: were going to pay this additional compensation to 450,000 victims 119 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,299 Speaker 4: of the Robodebt scandal. 120 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:35,300 Speaker 6: In 2020, the federal government paid back the debts. Today, 121 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 6: it's agreed to $ 475 million in compensation, as well as 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,500 Speaker 6: legal and admin fees, which could bring the total cost 123 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,380 Speaker 6: to over $ 548 million. 124 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,029 Speaker 1: What were your first thoughts then? 125 00:06:49,150 --> 00:06:51,730 Speaker 2: Well, I was happy because people were going to get 126 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:54,990 Speaker 2: some money, right? And not that it's enough money for 127 00:06:55,010 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: their pain and hurt that's caused but it's something and 128 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,300 Speaker 2: it's recognition that they did the wrong thing in. 129 00:07:00,260 --> 00:07:03,779 Speaker 5: A landmark settlement in the federal court the largest class 130 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,730 Speaker 5: action settlement in australian history now the albanese government has 131 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:10,790 Speaker 5: decided not to defend the claim that public servants who 132 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:14,530 Speaker 5: ran the robo debt scheme acted unlawfully as brought on 133 00:07:14,590 --> 00:07:16,010 Speaker 5: by gordon legal. 134 00:07:15,970 --> 00:07:18,410 Speaker 2: I actually went online and i think i went crooked 135 00:07:18,450 --> 00:07:21,810 Speaker 2: gordon legal for using jared's photo when he when i 136 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:25,510 Speaker 2: wasn't in the class action And then Gordon Legal contacted 137 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:27,460 Speaker 2: me and said that I could register for it. 138 00:07:27,910 --> 00:07:28,170 Speaker 3: Okay. 139 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:30,750 Speaker 4: And so you were expecting that you would join the 140 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,180 Speaker 4: class action then? Yes. 141 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:34,020 Speaker 3: I did join the class action, yes. 142 00:07:34,460 --> 00:07:37,700 Speaker 4: But then you received a letter from the Commonwealth's lawyers 143 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,860 Speaker 4: about whether you'd be entitled to compensation. 144 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,260 Speaker 3: What did it say? 145 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,830 Speaker 2: The official letter from the Commonwealth said that they denied 146 00:07:45,870 --> 00:07:49,010 Speaker 2: that they rang Jarrod on that afternoon. And then it 147 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:51,050 Speaker 2: said that due to the fact that they'd waived the 148 00:07:51,150 --> 00:07:55,180 Speaker 2: debt and it wasn't recoverable, that he wasn't entitled to 149 00:07:55,190 --> 00:07:58,300 Speaker 2: be in the class action, which made me angry because 150 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,700 Speaker 2: the debt was a discrepancy to start with. 151 00:08:01,340 --> 00:08:02,260 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm clear. 152 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: According to the Commonwealth, because Dara didn't receive this official 153 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: debt notice, it was what they call a provisional estimate, 154 00:08:10,220 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: then his family's not eligible for compensation. And Services Australia 155 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,190 Speaker 4: has also now kind of said that, they don't think 156 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:22,110 Speaker 4: that the debt outcome was actually calculated using income averaging. 157 00:08:22,490 --> 00:08:23,970 Speaker 1: What do you make of all of this? 158 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:27,250 Speaker 2: Well, the fact is I believe Jared, they called him 159 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:32,370 Speaker 2: in that afternoon because otherwise the boogeyman told me. So, 160 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:34,750 Speaker 2: you know, Jared never lies to me and I don't 161 00:08:34,770 --> 00:08:38,900 Speaker 2: think he was lying on that debt. So what they've 162 00:08:38,940 --> 00:08:43,100 Speaker 2: done is they've asserted a debt that they hadn't checked 163 00:08:43,660 --> 00:08:49,890 Speaker 2: yet over him on that afternoon. which then triggered him 164 00:08:49,929 --> 00:08:50,770 Speaker 2: to take his own life. 165 00:08:56,309 --> 00:08:58,890 Speaker 4: Still to come, are there any more avenues for justice? 166 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,420 Speaker 4: And so this response that you're getting now from the 167 00:09:14,460 --> 00:09:18,929 Speaker 4: Commonwealth at the end of years of advocating, Yeah, tell 168 00:09:18,970 --> 00:09:21,150 Speaker 4: me a bit about where you are at now. 169 00:09:21,170 --> 00:09:24,150 Speaker 2: Well, there's nowhere else for me to go, to be honest. 170 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:28,130 Speaker 2: I know Gordon Legal is still arguing about keeping me 171 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:30,810 Speaker 2: in the class action, but at this stage they're getting 172 00:09:30,830 --> 00:09:31,980 Speaker 2: the roadblocks that I'm getting. 173 00:09:33,380 --> 00:09:35,059 Speaker 3: There is one more avenue. 174 00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: Jarrod's debt, the way it came about was it was 175 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:43,100 Speaker 2: a defective administration on their part. So there is another 176 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,490 Speaker 2: avenue which is compensation for defective administration and But Services 177 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:52,700 Speaker 2: Australia judge themselves on that. They can say, oh, no, 178 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:55,860 Speaker 2: we don't agree, and I'd just be going through another 179 00:09:56,059 --> 00:09:58,750 Speaker 2: whole heap for nothing. I don't trust them. I think 180 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,579 Speaker 2: they're liars. And that's not a place I want to go. 181 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to go fighting the services of Australia again. 182 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: It just, it's too hard. Yeah. 183 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,380 Speaker 1: Well, it's been seven years since Dara died, right? 184 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,849 Speaker 4: And you've spent all of those years writing to ministers, 185 00:10:14,910 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: to departments, going to the then to get this news 186 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: about compensation. Tell me a bit more about where you're 187 00:10:22,980 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: left at in terms of trust or belief in the 188 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,300 Speaker 4: system or accountability. 189 00:10:28,660 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: I hate the system. 190 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:31,970 Speaker 2: I think the system's really cruel. 191 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:33,209 Speaker 3: I mean, it's still happening. 192 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:36,130 Speaker 2: Look at the NDIS, aged care, they're still using all 193 00:10:36,170 --> 00:10:37,590 Speaker 2: this automation. 194 00:10:36,990 --> 00:10:38,530 Speaker 3: And it's hurting people. 195 00:10:39,450 --> 00:10:42,410 Speaker 2: Look, honestly, if I had to rely on them for income, 196 00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:47,170 Speaker 2: I'd rather die than go to see them. You know, 197 00:10:47,270 --> 00:10:49,750 Speaker 2: and I'm helping people, you know, in their statement they 198 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:52,970 Speaker 2: said that, you know, they've changed the system and things 199 00:10:53,030 --> 00:10:56,210 Speaker 2: like that. Well, I live 30 minutes from town and 200 00:10:56,270 --> 00:11:00,170 Speaker 2: I've been helping people who cannot see, you know, have 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: very little vision, cannot hardly hear, they're eligible for the 202 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,300 Speaker 2: pension and when you take them in there, they want 203 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: them to get online. 204 00:11:10,940 --> 00:11:14,050 Speaker 1: Not going to happen. Do you mind telling me a 205 00:11:14,070 --> 00:11:16,350 Speaker 1: bit more about the impact that this has all had 206 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:18,890 Speaker 1: on you personally? I mean, it must have taken a toll. 207 00:11:19,390 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: It's taken a big toll. It's taken a huge toll. 208 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: You know, even people that have known me for years, 209 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: they can see that there's a sadness in me. 210 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:29,740 Speaker 3: Don't want to cry. 211 00:11:31,820 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: You know, even I've got PTSD, so I went into 212 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:38,380 Speaker 2: some community work, you know, dealing with Centrelink and dealing 213 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:40,820 Speaker 2: with all these departments was all too triggering for me, 214 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,850 Speaker 2: so I had to leave that. Because, you know, some 215 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:48,860 Speaker 2: days if my PTSD hits, I can be out for 216 00:11:48,890 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: four days. 217 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,459 Speaker 3: I'm just not in a good space at all. 218 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: And that's when everybody worries about me because I start 219 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: to think I can't do this anymore. But I'm usually 220 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: all right. I just pull myself out of it. But 221 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: it's hard. It's hard yakka. 222 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: And I don't know whether that'll ever stop. 223 00:12:10,620 --> 00:12:13,820 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there has been... any accountability or 224 00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: any justice? 225 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: No, not for Jared. Not at all. 226 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,260 Speaker 2: I mean, how would they feel if that was their child? 227 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 3: This is my child. This is my life. 228 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,770 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kath, and thank you for talking to me 229 00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:31,130 Speaker 1: about it. 230 00:12:31,290 --> 00:12:31,850 Speaker 3: That's all right. 231 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:32,510 Speaker 2: Thanks, Ruby. 232 00:12:36,450 --> 00:12:39,090 Speaker 4: If this story has raised any issues for you, you 233 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:54,030 Speaker 4: can contact Lifeline on 13 11 14. Also in the news, 234 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:57,710 Speaker 4: humans could be extinct by the year 2100 thanks to 235 00:12:57,770 --> 00:13:01,570 Speaker 4: nuclear conflict or malicious use of AI. That's according to 236 00:13:01,610 --> 00:13:04,170 Speaker 4: a new global risk assessment by the Lancet Commission on 237 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: 21st Century Global Threats to Health. Also on the list 238 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 4: of major threats to humans, the climate crisis, childhood malnutrition 239 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,820 Speaker 4: and cuts to aid spending by wealthy countries. And death 240 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,380 Speaker 4: row inmate Krista Pike is back in prison after a 241 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:21,740 Speaker 4: stay in hospital following her botched execution in the US. 242 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: Her lawyers say she has a long recovery ahead of 243 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,309 Speaker 4: her after surviving two lethal injections. Tennessee has suspended all 244 00:13:29,370 --> 00:13:32,230 Speaker 4: executions for the rest of the year while investigations into 245 00:13:32,250 --> 00:13:35,770 Speaker 4: the incident continue. I'm Ruby Jones. This is 7am. 246 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:36,729 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. 247 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:44,110 Speaker 6: Music Thank you.