1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Approache Production. 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,321 Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the 3 00:00:13,401 --> 00:00:16,521 Speaker 2: Muscle comments and in this episode, I speak about what 4 00:00:16,521 --> 00:00:18,081 Speaker 2: it was like to work with Ronaldinho, one of the 5 00:00:18,121 --> 00:00:19,361 Speaker 2: biggest soccer players. 6 00:00:19,041 --> 00:00:19,561 Speaker 1: In the world. 7 00:00:20,081 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: It's really I've never done something where I've had to 8 00:00:22,521 --> 00:00:26,641 Speaker 2: be so switched on and also not trust anyone. 9 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:26,961 Speaker 1: Who was around me. 10 00:00:26,961 --> 00:00:29,081 Speaker 2: Your ma, right. I love to party and to watch 11 00:00:29,081 --> 00:00:31,681 Speaker 2: everyone else around me party again, drinking and go and 12 00:00:31,801 --> 00:00:33,921 Speaker 2: partying and doing this, and and I'm standing there like, 13 00:00:34,001 --> 00:00:35,241 Speaker 2: you know, I'm only twenty four to seven. 14 00:00:35,321 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Yep. That was a hard part, you know what I mean? 15 00:00:37,281 --> 00:00:39,001 Speaker 1: And I said, Bro, what are you doing? 16 00:00:39,281 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: And He's just sorry, Bro, I wanted to camp And 17 00:00:42,521 --> 00:00:43,721 Speaker 2: it was just like, what the fuck? 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:52,161 Speaker 1: Bro? Tell me? You know what I mean? Neil, how 19 00:00:52,241 --> 00:00:56,361 Speaker 1: are you? I'm Jay, I'm one of the producers behind 20 00:00:56,441 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: your shows. So today it was weird because otherwise you'd 21 00:01:00,001 --> 00:01:02,361 Speaker 1: have to ask questions if yourself. Yep, so that's what 22 00:01:02,481 --> 00:01:04,721 Speaker 1: I'm here. You're nervous about this. I'm very nervous. 23 00:01:04,721 --> 00:01:06,721 Speaker 2: I don't being beyond the fucking getting into you. 24 00:01:06,881 --> 00:01:09,081 Speaker 1: I don't like him. Yeah, well this is the bit 25 00:01:09,121 --> 00:01:12,961 Speaker 1: because like I was fascinated. Tell me about Ronaldinho first. 26 00:01:12,801 --> 00:01:16,761 Speaker 2: Like, who is he Ronaldinho? Well, he's a former former 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: player football player, probably one of the biggest names in 28 00:01:19,681 --> 00:01:24,681 Speaker 2: the world. I'd say probably he's top three, top five Brazilian. 29 00:01:24,801 --> 00:01:27,561 Speaker 2: He's played all over the world ac Milan, Paras, ag 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: Jerman Barcelona, so he's very well known. And when I 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: got the chance to do it, I was. I jumped 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,001 Speaker 2: at the chance. 33 00:01:34,081 --> 00:01:37,761 Speaker 1: And you're a mad soccer nut, right, yeah, yeah, like 34 00:01:37,881 --> 00:01:38,441 Speaker 1: you were. 35 00:01:38,521 --> 00:01:41,681 Speaker 2: I've grown up from the age of four soccer math 36 00:01:41,721 --> 00:01:42,681 Speaker 2: and I'm still soccer math. 37 00:01:43,081 --> 00:01:45,281 Speaker 1: You moved to Australia play soccer, Yes. 38 00:01:45,161 --> 00:01:46,801 Speaker 2: I moved here thinking it was going to be my 39 00:01:46,881 --> 00:01:50,481 Speaker 2: dream to play it, but it wasn't. Instead I went 40 00:01:50,521 --> 00:01:51,881 Speaker 2: down a different, different. 41 00:01:51,601 --> 00:01:56,241 Speaker 1: Path from all right, So I'll get a couple of 42 00:01:56,281 --> 00:01:59,881 Speaker 1: questions about about him first, Like, he's he's minted, right, 43 00:01:59,921 --> 00:02:00,921 Speaker 1: he's very rich. 44 00:02:01,481 --> 00:02:07,761 Speaker 2: Yes, he's wealthy. I think he's where eighty four million wealthy. 45 00:02:08,241 --> 00:02:11,081 Speaker 2: That's wealthy, but that could be an asset. I'm not 46 00:02:11,081 --> 00:02:13,081 Speaker 2: too sure, but yeah, he's pretty wealthy. 47 00:02:13,281 --> 00:02:15,761 Speaker 1: Before we get into how you ended up looking after 48 00:02:15,841 --> 00:02:18,641 Speaker 1: him while he was here, let's talk about your experience. 49 00:02:18,641 --> 00:02:20,321 Speaker 1: Have you have you looked after people before? 50 00:02:20,561 --> 00:02:24,921 Speaker 2: Yeah, I started probably, I'd say maybe back in nineteen 51 00:02:25,081 --> 00:02:28,681 Speaker 2: ninety eight. My first gig was Mimy McPherson at a 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,481 Speaker 2: fashion show. I looked after her. Then from there I 53 00:02:31,481 --> 00:02:34,761 Speaker 2: went to Craig David. From Craig David, then I started 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,881 Speaker 2: looking after rappers. 55 00:02:38,081 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: When they came over from Lil Wayne jar Rule. 56 00:02:40,921 --> 00:02:43,001 Speaker 2: And then I started looking after all the people from 57 00:02:44,001 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: Guy Sebastian to you know, people from the Voice and 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,201 Speaker 2: all like that. 59 00:02:47,401 --> 00:02:50,601 Speaker 1: And then what so what all of those jobs are 60 00:02:50,601 --> 00:02:53,521 Speaker 1: really different, I'm guess seeing like Guys Sebastian doesn't have 61 00:02:53,601 --> 00:02:56,001 Speaker 1: the same heavy hits. 62 00:02:55,561 --> 00:02:58,721 Speaker 2: Like I think that was mostly just because he was 63 00:02:59,121 --> 00:03:01,481 Speaker 2: with the TV channel and when he came out into 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,081 Speaker 2: King's Cross he needed to be looked after because in case, 65 00:03:04,121 --> 00:03:05,041 Speaker 2: you know, people annoy him. 66 00:03:05,081 --> 00:03:05,561 Speaker 1: But he's not. 67 00:03:06,361 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. He is a celebrity, but he's 68 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,641 Speaker 2: not the big name celebrities like I've looked after before. 69 00:03:10,841 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: And so what's the job? What's your job? In a 70 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: sense of those when you're looking after what what do 71 00:03:16,881 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: you what's your remit? What do you have to do? Well, it's. 72 00:03:21,121 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Before they come out, like for instance, Ronaldinho. I would 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,281 Speaker 2: have to go to the stadium, check the stadium for 74 00:03:28,361 --> 00:03:32,321 Speaker 2: where his changing rooms were going to be. Where he 75 00:03:32,361 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: said he was going to walk around the stadium, So 76 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,841 Speaker 2: I had to check that because of fans coming onto 77 00:03:36,881 --> 00:03:38,081 Speaker 2: the pitch where I need to know where that all 78 00:03:38,081 --> 00:03:40,401 Speaker 2: the doors were on the stadium. If anyone would open 79 00:03:40,521 --> 00:03:42,601 Speaker 2: the latch of the doors and try to run on 80 00:03:42,641 --> 00:03:44,041 Speaker 2: the pitch, I know where it is. If they're going 81 00:03:44,041 --> 00:03:46,121 Speaker 2: to climb over, how how how it was if they 82 00:03:46,121 --> 00:03:50,001 Speaker 2: could easily climb over. Then there was routes from the 83 00:03:50,041 --> 00:03:54,001 Speaker 2: airport to the hotel. Around the hotel, I had to 84 00:03:54,121 --> 00:03:58,001 Speaker 2: check how easy it was to access every floor if 85 00:03:58,001 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: he wants to go to the gym, the pool, restaurants 86 00:04:01,121 --> 00:04:05,761 Speaker 2: for your park, the cars, and then after parties go 87 00:04:05,801 --> 00:04:07,841 Speaker 2: to the to the venues and check all all that 88 00:04:07,921 --> 00:04:11,121 Speaker 2: kind of stuff where he would sit, the booths, going 89 00:04:11,161 --> 00:04:12,601 Speaker 2: to just the bathroom, you know what I mean. 90 00:04:12,641 --> 00:04:12,841 Speaker 1: It was. 91 00:04:12,881 --> 00:04:17,761 Speaker 2: Everything was checked by myself from about maybe three months 92 00:04:17,801 --> 00:04:18,761 Speaker 2: before he came out here. 93 00:04:19,001 --> 00:04:21,281 Speaker 1: Wow, I want to get into the nitty gridy of 94 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,361 Speaker 1: what those look like, what those moments look like. But 95 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,721 Speaker 1: how'd you get the job? 96 00:04:25,961 --> 00:04:28,481 Speaker 2: I was asked about the job because the people who 97 00:04:28,521 --> 00:04:31,921 Speaker 2: were involved in bringing them over knew knew me, already 98 00:04:32,001 --> 00:04:34,921 Speaker 2: knew about me and my experience and how long I've 99 00:04:34,921 --> 00:04:38,161 Speaker 2: done it for, and they just straight away offered me. 100 00:04:38,361 --> 00:04:41,081 Speaker 2: As soon as I did get it, they sat me down. 101 00:04:41,161 --> 00:04:42,801 Speaker 2: I said yes straight away, like I wasn't going to 102 00:04:42,961 --> 00:04:44,921 Speaker 2: say no to that job. You know this is I 103 00:04:44,921 --> 00:04:47,281 Speaker 2: can actually admit that it was probably the biggest job 104 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,201 Speaker 2: I've ever had to look after for somebody. 105 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,281 Speaker 1: And he doesn't speak English. He does, does he? 106 00:04:53,281 --> 00:04:55,601 Speaker 2: He actually does speak good English, but he doesn't want 107 00:04:55,601 --> 00:04:57,161 Speaker 2: to speak English because he doesn't want to talk to 108 00:04:57,201 --> 00:05:01,121 Speaker 2: the media. He tells them he doesn't speak English so 109 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:02,521 Speaker 2: he doesn't have to stop and talk to them. 110 00:05:02,601 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. 111 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,721 Speaker 2: But I got good conversation is out of him every 112 00:05:05,761 --> 00:05:06,561 Speaker 2: time I was with him. 113 00:05:06,601 --> 00:05:08,601 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, does he have a does he have a 114 00:05:08,641 --> 00:05:12,681 Speaker 1: local team? His own team too? Or were you it? No? No? 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,321 Speaker 2: For the nine days like that was his man. 116 00:05:14,561 --> 00:05:18,681 Speaker 1: Okay, so you get the job. Obviously it's reasonable coin. Yeah, 117 00:05:18,721 --> 00:05:22,081 Speaker 1: it was a reasonable coin. It was a good coin. 118 00:05:24,041 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: You didn't do it for the fun of it, No, 119 00:05:26,081 --> 00:05:26,681 Speaker 1: you know what. 120 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,161 Speaker 2: If you would have asked me to do it for 121 00:05:30,161 --> 00:05:32,721 Speaker 2: the fun of it. I would because the experience was unbelievable. 122 00:05:33,161 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: And to look after someone like that, you know, it's 123 00:05:36,081 --> 00:05:37,801 Speaker 2: not every day you get somebody to look after, somebody 124 00:05:37,921 --> 00:05:41,041 Speaker 2: as big as him, and you know he's I've he's 125 00:05:41,081 --> 00:05:42,801 Speaker 2: one of my idols, as I said, because you know, 126 00:05:42,841 --> 00:05:44,561 Speaker 2: I've looked up to him even when I was playing, 127 00:05:44,561 --> 00:05:46,281 Speaker 2: even though it's not a position I wanted to play. 128 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: But to look after someone Ronaldinho like that's looking after 129 00:05:50,001 --> 00:05:52,281 Speaker 2: he's he's up there with the maradonnas and you know that, 130 00:05:52,361 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: and it's that's why, Yeah, I jumped at the chance 131 00:05:54,481 --> 00:05:54,641 Speaker 2: for that. 132 00:05:55,481 --> 00:05:59,121 Speaker 1: So he flies in. What do you fly in from Duboi? Okay? 133 00:05:59,161 --> 00:06:02,001 Speaker 1: So flies in for Dubai? Yeah, you flame was late? 134 00:06:02,081 --> 00:06:03,321 Speaker 1: Blame was late? Okay? 135 00:06:03,401 --> 00:06:07,601 Speaker 2: It was an hour and a half late coming in commercial? 136 00:06:07,721 --> 00:06:09,441 Speaker 1: Or does he fly in on his own jet? 137 00:06:09,641 --> 00:06:13,161 Speaker 2: No, No, he's flying in the business class. So but 138 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,281 Speaker 2: when he came in, we went to the airport. We're 139 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: waiting for the plane to come in. I'm speaking already 140 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,161 Speaker 2: with I've already spoken ahead with the airport people to 141 00:06:23,281 --> 00:06:24,761 Speaker 2: park three of the. 142 00:06:24,721 --> 00:06:25,921 Speaker 1: Cars that he's going to go in. 143 00:06:26,041 --> 00:06:27,721 Speaker 2: And you know, all our staff are going to go 144 00:06:27,761 --> 00:06:30,841 Speaker 2: in in a private area so it's easy to access. 145 00:06:32,201 --> 00:06:35,241 Speaker 2: I've already arranged a VIP lounge so when he gets 146 00:06:35,241 --> 00:06:37,561 Speaker 2: off the plane, he'll go in the relax before we 147 00:06:37,601 --> 00:06:39,401 Speaker 2: take him out, and he gets hit by the crowd 148 00:06:39,521 --> 00:06:43,361 Speaker 2: on the supporters. So we're waiting there now because his 149 00:06:43,401 --> 00:06:47,441 Speaker 2: plane got delayed, and there was Brazilian drummers there, Brazilian fans, 150 00:06:47,481 --> 00:06:49,361 Speaker 2: there was everything there, you know, waiting for him to 151 00:06:49,401 --> 00:06:52,601 Speaker 2: come in, and it was getting hectic because like it 152 00:06:52,721 --> 00:06:55,041 Speaker 2: started off small and then it got massive, and then 153 00:06:55,041 --> 00:06:57,441 Speaker 2: you've got other people planes coming in as well and 154 00:06:57,561 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: waiting for their families. And then when it was time 155 00:07:00,241 --> 00:07:02,441 Speaker 2: for us to go, because I remember, the security guy says, 156 00:07:03,681 --> 00:07:06,601 Speaker 2: I'll leave the side door open and if I don't, 157 00:07:06,641 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: just bring me and I'll open it for you to 158 00:07:08,681 --> 00:07:10,481 Speaker 2: go into the VIP loungs so we could wait for 159 00:07:10,601 --> 00:07:12,841 Speaker 2: him to come off the plane. The guy forgot to 160 00:07:13,361 --> 00:07:15,561 Speaker 2: leave it off the latch for me, and I didn't 161 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:18,481 Speaker 2: realize that because I just thought, okay, you know, you 162 00:07:18,521 --> 00:07:21,321 Speaker 2: need a swipe card to get through, and I didn't realize, 163 00:07:21,361 --> 00:07:23,361 Speaker 2: and when it wouldn't open, I ripped the door off 164 00:07:23,361 --> 00:07:26,041 Speaker 2: the hinges and I actually ripped it off the hinges 165 00:07:26,121 --> 00:07:28,401 Speaker 2: and because and the alarms went off in the airport 166 00:07:28,401 --> 00:07:30,121 Speaker 2: because of what I did. Because I just thought he 167 00:07:30,121 --> 00:07:31,601 Speaker 2: said he was going to leave it open to the guys, 168 00:07:31,641 --> 00:07:33,601 Speaker 2: and I said he didn't do it, and I just 169 00:07:33,601 --> 00:07:35,921 Speaker 2: fucking what fuck this? And I ripped it off and 170 00:07:35,961 --> 00:07:37,921 Speaker 2: I opened it up, and the alarms were just going 171 00:07:37,961 --> 00:07:40,801 Speaker 2: and going for like twenty minutes. It's funny, you know what. 172 00:07:40,841 --> 00:07:43,441 Speaker 2: You walk into the VIP behind air all the closed doors, 173 00:07:43,481 --> 00:07:46,841 Speaker 2: and no one came, Not one person came. But anyway, 174 00:07:47,281 --> 00:07:49,801 Speaker 2: we waited in the lounge for him. I said it 175 00:07:49,801 --> 00:07:52,321 Speaker 2: was about an hour and a half. His plane was delayed. 176 00:07:53,201 --> 00:07:57,001 Speaker 2: And you know what, I've looked after people before, but 177 00:07:57,161 --> 00:08:02,201 Speaker 2: I've never got so nervous about am I doing this right? 178 00:08:02,361 --> 00:08:04,761 Speaker 2: What margin if I do something wrong? Will he like 179 00:08:04,801 --> 00:08:07,681 Speaker 2: who he sees? He's seen He's he's seen me on 180 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:12,681 Speaker 2: a video I think twice from coming over this. He 181 00:08:12,721 --> 00:08:15,081 Speaker 2: was told this is your man. He actually googled me 182 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:17,401 Speaker 2: to see who I was, and he liked it. He 183 00:08:17,481 --> 00:08:19,681 Speaker 2: was happy. But then you're thinking, you know, he's never 184 00:08:19,721 --> 00:08:21,121 Speaker 2: seen you before, what's he going to be like when 185 00:08:21,121 --> 00:08:23,961 Speaker 2: he's seen you? And yeah, it was It was nerve 186 00:08:24,001 --> 00:08:25,561 Speaker 2: wracking till he came, what. 187 00:08:25,521 --> 00:08:28,001 Speaker 1: Do you say to you when you first? Sorry? Hey bro? 188 00:08:30,721 --> 00:08:32,361 Speaker 1: That was that was what he said to me. When 189 00:08:32,361 --> 00:08:33,601 Speaker 1: he walked through the door. 190 00:08:33,641 --> 00:08:36,801 Speaker 2: He shook my hand, he goes, hey bro, and yeah, 191 00:08:36,921 --> 00:08:39,441 Speaker 2: he was like, you know, his best friend who's going 192 00:08:39,521 --> 00:08:41,281 Speaker 2: to play soccer with while he was here, was standing 193 00:08:41,321 --> 00:08:43,321 Speaker 2: right next to me, and so my I just wanted 194 00:08:43,361 --> 00:08:45,641 Speaker 2: to introduce myself who I was, and then I just 195 00:08:45,721 --> 00:08:47,401 Speaker 2: let him be and got on with my job. 196 00:08:47,441 --> 00:08:50,161 Speaker 1: You know, I went into structure mode and so I mean, 197 00:08:50,321 --> 00:08:52,601 Speaker 1: your job in those cases is to try and not 198 00:08:52,801 --> 00:08:56,361 Speaker 1: be in the way right like you're there but you're 199 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:56,841 Speaker 1: not there. 200 00:08:57,201 --> 00:09:00,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was a bit hard because especially 201 00:09:00,041 --> 00:09:02,641 Speaker 2: when we opened up the doors and then it was 202 00:09:02,681 --> 00:09:06,001 Speaker 2: just mayhem at Sydney International Airport. You know, they were 203 00:09:06,041 --> 00:09:08,841 Speaker 2: just trying to get in his face, mobile phones, cameras, 204 00:09:09,241 --> 00:09:12,241 Speaker 2: TV cameras, you know, guys even trying to hold on 205 00:09:12,281 --> 00:09:15,761 Speaker 2: to him. And you know, it's funny because weeks up 206 00:09:15,801 --> 00:09:20,761 Speaker 2: to him coming out, I studied Messis and you know, 207 00:09:21,241 --> 00:09:23,601 Speaker 2: he told me that he did. His management told me 208 00:09:23,601 --> 00:09:25,841 Speaker 2: that when he plays, they don't want anyone run on 209 00:09:25,841 --> 00:09:27,481 Speaker 2: the pitch and touching them or whatever do. So I 210 00:09:28,321 --> 00:09:31,441 Speaker 2: actually went into I'm fit, but I had to go 211 00:09:31,481 --> 00:09:33,961 Speaker 2: into fitness mode, so I went back to doing soccer 212 00:09:34,001 --> 00:09:36,521 Speaker 2: training again because I had to get sprints and fucking 213 00:09:36,641 --> 00:09:38,801 Speaker 2: make sure I could run. And I actually pulled a 214 00:09:38,841 --> 00:09:43,361 Speaker 2: hamstring four weeks prior to me fucking him coming out. 215 00:09:43,521 --> 00:09:46,201 Speaker 2: And when I start I pulled the hamstring, the bruising 216 00:09:46,401 --> 00:09:49,361 Speaker 2: was down my fucking hammies all the way to my kneecap, 217 00:09:49,881 --> 00:09:51,481 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh my god, what a time to 218 00:09:51,521 --> 00:09:53,281 Speaker 2: do it. Four weeks before he comes out and my 219 00:09:53,321 --> 00:09:55,841 Speaker 2: hammy's gone, and I just thought, don't worry about it. 220 00:09:55,881 --> 00:09:59,681 Speaker 2: Took painkillers, I took an injection, and I strapped it 221 00:09:59,761 --> 00:10:02,201 Speaker 2: up and eventually it went away. But you know, that 222 00:10:02,401 --> 00:10:04,161 Speaker 2: was one of the things that you know, I was 223 00:10:04,161 --> 00:10:06,321 Speaker 2: trying to get myself fit for. But as said, when 224 00:10:06,361 --> 00:10:08,961 Speaker 2: we got me open the doors of the airport, I've 225 00:10:09,081 --> 00:10:12,121 Speaker 2: never had to go through something like that in my life. 226 00:10:12,201 --> 00:10:16,001 Speaker 1: Like that was just unbelievable. So your hands are on him. 227 00:10:15,801 --> 00:10:17,521 Speaker 2: My hands were never touching him, and my hands were 228 00:10:17,561 --> 00:10:20,561 Speaker 2: around him, so it was like I was using both 229 00:10:20,601 --> 00:10:24,361 Speaker 2: my arms as a shield and also making him guide 230 00:10:24,881 --> 00:10:26,201 Speaker 2: towards which way I wanted to go. 231 00:10:26,521 --> 00:10:28,321 Speaker 1: And no one's there to hurt him, right, they want 232 00:10:28,321 --> 00:10:28,921 Speaker 1: to they love. 233 00:10:28,841 --> 00:10:31,881 Speaker 2: Him, You don't, well, you don't know that, you know 234 00:10:31,921 --> 00:10:35,081 Speaker 2: what I mean. But then again, they're there to just 235 00:10:35,281 --> 00:10:38,241 Speaker 2: get that one picture with with him, and they don't 236 00:10:38,241 --> 00:10:39,961 Speaker 2: care how they get it. You know, we had people 237 00:10:41,201 --> 00:10:42,961 Speaker 2: standing right in front of him and they were walking 238 00:10:43,001 --> 00:10:44,481 Speaker 2: walk and walking, and it's like, get off the way 239 00:10:44,481 --> 00:10:46,841 Speaker 2: because we I've got to get him the quickest possible 240 00:10:46,841 --> 00:10:49,121 Speaker 2: way to that car without trying to stop, you know 241 00:10:49,161 --> 00:10:51,681 Speaker 2: what I mean, because he's already nervous. He's a very shy, 242 00:10:51,721 --> 00:10:55,361 Speaker 2: nervous person, so to get him and it was it 243 00:10:55,401 --> 00:10:58,001 Speaker 2: was pretty long way to the cars, and it was 244 00:10:58,041 --> 00:11:01,241 Speaker 2: pretty difficult, and I must admit, like two people I 245 00:11:01,281 --> 00:11:04,321 Speaker 2: got in the way twice and I did throw him 246 00:11:04,321 --> 00:11:06,161 Speaker 2: against the wall because they got in the way and 247 00:11:06,201 --> 00:11:09,121 Speaker 2: I launched them because they overstepped the boundaries. 248 00:11:09,801 --> 00:11:12,961 Speaker 1: And is there is there like, was there a conversation 249 00:11:13,001 --> 00:11:14,801 Speaker 1: with him at any point where he's like, you know, 250 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:16,561 Speaker 1: I don't want you to hurt anyone, but obviously I 251 00:11:16,601 --> 00:11:17,401 Speaker 1: want to be predic. 252 00:11:17,681 --> 00:11:20,641 Speaker 2: No, he never through the whole point of coming through 253 00:11:20,641 --> 00:11:22,841 Speaker 2: the VIP lounge to the cars. He never spoke once 254 00:11:23,321 --> 00:11:24,281 Speaker 2: after he said a look to me. 255 00:11:24,321 --> 00:11:24,721 Speaker 1: That was it. 256 00:11:25,121 --> 00:11:27,241 Speaker 2: He just let me do my job, yep. And then 257 00:11:27,241 --> 00:11:31,641 Speaker 2: we got there. It was It's actually weird because I 258 00:11:31,681 --> 00:11:34,361 Speaker 2: didn't have a conversation with him for probably at least 259 00:11:34,401 --> 00:11:35,161 Speaker 2: thirty six hours. 260 00:11:35,241 --> 00:11:37,361 Speaker 1: Yeah really, So you sit in the car with him 261 00:11:37,361 --> 00:11:38,481 Speaker 1: from the airport to the hotel. 262 00:11:38,601 --> 00:11:41,201 Speaker 2: Didn't talk, didn't no talk, no talk, just talking to 263 00:11:41,241 --> 00:11:44,201 Speaker 2: his best friend who was in Australia waiting for him, 264 00:11:44,761 --> 00:11:46,161 Speaker 2: and then his management. 265 00:11:46,281 --> 00:11:48,721 Speaker 1: That's it in his native tongue or in English, No, no, 266 00:11:48,841 --> 00:11:52,001 Speaker 1: wasn't in English and Brazilian yeah yeah, use yeah uh. 267 00:11:52,241 --> 00:11:53,801 Speaker 1: And so get to the hotel. 268 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:55,761 Speaker 2: What do you stay with the Crown We were supposed 269 00:11:55,801 --> 00:11:58,481 Speaker 2: to be staying together, which and we did. We had 270 00:11:58,561 --> 00:12:01,001 Speaker 2: the penthouse at the top, the second floor down, but 271 00:12:01,641 --> 00:12:04,561 Speaker 2: I felt uncomfortable staying in there. 272 00:12:04,841 --> 00:12:05,921 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know what he. 273 00:12:05,881 --> 00:12:07,641 Speaker 2: Was going to do when he was sucking in his room, 274 00:12:07,641 --> 00:12:09,041 Speaker 2: and I just thought, now, this is a bit on converse. 275 00:12:09,081 --> 00:12:11,481 Speaker 2: So they gave me the room right by his front door, 276 00:12:11,961 --> 00:12:14,361 Speaker 2: so then I he couldn't leave without me, and the 277 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:16,681 Speaker 2: only way on that lift we was just me and him, 278 00:12:16,761 --> 00:12:19,321 Speaker 2: So if anyone came up. You shouldn't be there, okay, 279 00:12:19,681 --> 00:12:20,561 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was. 280 00:12:21,081 --> 00:12:22,161 Speaker 1: His room was unbelievable. 281 00:12:22,281 --> 00:12:26,681 Speaker 2: You know, his own gym, a piano in the two bedrooms. 282 00:12:26,721 --> 00:12:31,321 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. You know, did he have 283 00:12:31,361 --> 00:12:34,521 Speaker 1: like a rider all things that he needed? No? No, 284 00:12:34,881 --> 00:12:37,441 Speaker 1: So like normally selected the small guy. I want this 285 00:12:37,441 --> 00:12:40,121 Speaker 1: this he was? He was fine? He was Yeah, he 286 00:12:40,241 --> 00:12:42,441 Speaker 1: was was he was? He hard work? Like like what 287 00:12:42,481 --> 00:12:44,921 Speaker 1: I mean by that is was he hard work in 288 00:12:44,961 --> 00:12:46,641 Speaker 1: the sense that he wanted a lot? Or is he 289 00:12:46,681 --> 00:12:47,201 Speaker 1: pretty chill? 290 00:12:47,521 --> 00:12:49,881 Speaker 2: No, he didn't want a lot. He just the only 291 00:12:49,881 --> 00:12:51,841 Speaker 2: thing he liked to do was gamble. That's it, really 292 00:12:51,921 --> 00:12:52,561 Speaker 2: love to gamble. 293 00:12:52,561 --> 00:12:55,441 Speaker 1: What's his game? Back? Do you win? Not? 294 00:12:55,481 --> 00:12:57,001 Speaker 2: When I was with him, I think it was bad luck. 295 00:12:58,201 --> 00:13:03,161 Speaker 2: But I still remember Nellie. Every night we when we 296 00:13:03,161 --> 00:13:06,521 Speaker 2: were in Sydney, we we went there every night every 297 00:13:06,601 --> 00:13:09,121 Speaker 2: night after a function. We would go there, probably about 298 00:13:09,321 --> 00:13:13,801 Speaker 2: maybe three o'clock to thirty three o'clock. They little close 299 00:13:14,441 --> 00:13:16,441 Speaker 2: and he didn't like the Crown to the Sydney because 300 00:13:16,481 --> 00:13:17,361 Speaker 2: it closes a four. 301 00:13:18,081 --> 00:13:21,121 Speaker 1: And you know he launched the gamble gamble all night too. 302 00:13:21,881 --> 00:13:24,681 Speaker 2: Ah. He didn't really, he didn't really drink. He'd drank 303 00:13:24,681 --> 00:13:26,201 Speaker 2: a few things, but it was mostly you know, it 304 00:13:26,281 --> 00:13:29,761 Speaker 2: was just casual drinking. Yeah, Gamble was this thing, you know, 305 00:13:29,801 --> 00:13:33,401 Speaker 2: he loved its. Well, he wants to put big bets on, 306 00:13:33,401 --> 00:13:35,801 Speaker 2: but they wouldn't let They limited him to his bets. 307 00:13:35,881 --> 00:13:37,961 Speaker 2: So he didn't like that either. Didn't like the way 308 00:13:38,001 --> 00:13:41,321 Speaker 2: the crown didn't wouldn't wouldn't. Yeah, he put thro cash down. 309 00:13:41,361 --> 00:13:42,801 Speaker 2: He goes, no, you can't do that. We got to 310 00:13:42,801 --> 00:13:44,161 Speaker 2: go and change it. So I'd have to go to 311 00:13:44,201 --> 00:13:46,001 Speaker 2: the to the bank to change it for him at 312 00:13:46,001 --> 00:13:48,721 Speaker 2: the at the front desk and come back with chips 313 00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:51,321 Speaker 2: for him. But when we got the Gold Coast, oh, 314 00:13:51,481 --> 00:13:54,401 Speaker 2: different story. You know, casinos open twenty four seven, he 315 00:13:54,481 --> 00:13:57,961 Speaker 2: snucked down and left me. He actually snucked down from 316 00:13:58,001 --> 00:14:00,841 Speaker 2: his room, didn't tell me, and went fucking gambling without me. 317 00:14:00,881 --> 00:14:02,841 Speaker 2: And I found out about two hours later he went 318 00:14:02,881 --> 00:14:04,241 Speaker 2: down there. Had to fucking go down there and get 319 00:14:04,321 --> 00:14:07,001 Speaker 2: him because he said, and the way he said it 320 00:14:07,041 --> 00:14:09,001 Speaker 2: was like you know when you when your your kids 321 00:14:09,001 --> 00:14:11,641 Speaker 2: are in a naughty and I said, bro, what are 322 00:14:11,641 --> 00:14:15,241 Speaker 2: you doing? And he's just sorry, Bro, I wanted to gamble, 323 00:14:15,361 --> 00:14:17,401 Speaker 2: and it was just like, what the fuck, bro, tell 324 00:14:17,521 --> 00:14:19,481 Speaker 2: me you know what I mean, But that's that's how 325 00:14:19,881 --> 00:14:21,081 Speaker 2: our relationship came in the end. 326 00:14:21,681 --> 00:14:25,921 Speaker 3: It was so so it's having big bets, not winning much. Sydney, 327 00:14:26,081 --> 00:14:28,961 Speaker 3: I seen him blow. I think it was fifteen fifteen 328 00:14:29,041 --> 00:14:32,601 Speaker 3: k about forty minutes and you're sitting next to it. 329 00:14:33,041 --> 00:14:35,081 Speaker 2: I was, actually because yeah, it was. We went into 330 00:14:35,081 --> 00:14:37,841 Speaker 2: a private gambling room. So I just sat there watched Kelly, 331 00:14:38,161 --> 00:14:40,921 Speaker 2: watch him sometimes get up, have a drink, because you know, 332 00:14:41,161 --> 00:14:43,721 Speaker 2: it was a long time. You know, you're sitting there 333 00:14:43,721 --> 00:14:45,561 Speaker 2: for a long time, and it was just like I 334 00:14:45,561 --> 00:14:47,641 Speaker 2: had to keep myself occupied because I'm not a gambler, 335 00:14:47,721 --> 00:14:49,801 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I'm not fascinated by watching someone 336 00:14:49,881 --> 00:14:51,881 Speaker 2: do that ship. But you know, there's no one else 337 00:14:51,921 --> 00:14:53,361 Speaker 2: in the room, Brouss and. 338 00:14:53,361 --> 00:14:55,601 Speaker 1: This is late night, right, this was late night, and 339 00:14:55,681 --> 00:15:00,161 Speaker 1: so you you're if he's up, you're up. If he's up, 340 00:15:00,161 --> 00:15:01,081 Speaker 1: I'm up. That's it. 341 00:15:01,161 --> 00:15:02,441 Speaker 2: When he goes, when he goes into the bed and 342 00:15:02,441 --> 00:15:04,361 Speaker 2: he's going to sleep, that's my rest time. But I 343 00:15:04,361 --> 00:15:06,801 Speaker 2: can't go anywhere, can't do anything because he might go 344 00:15:06,801 --> 00:15:07,521 Speaker 2: in an hour's time. 345 00:15:07,601 --> 00:15:08,281 Speaker 1: I'm going down. 346 00:15:08,681 --> 00:15:11,721 Speaker 2: So I always had to stay in my room with 347 00:15:11,761 --> 00:15:14,161 Speaker 2: my door opened, so just in case he tried to 348 00:15:14,241 --> 00:15:16,601 Speaker 2: do like a sneaky one downstairs, you know what I mean. 349 00:15:17,681 --> 00:15:18,601 Speaker 1: Well he actually did. 350 00:15:18,441 --> 00:15:21,601 Speaker 2: That, and is what his first not his first day 351 00:15:22,441 --> 00:15:25,081 Speaker 2: at the Crown Sydney. He's supposed to knock on my 352 00:15:25,121 --> 00:15:26,441 Speaker 2: door and he never locked on my door. To go 353 00:15:26,481 --> 00:15:30,161 Speaker 2: down for breakfast, and he went downstairs, and you know, 354 00:15:30,201 --> 00:15:32,161 Speaker 2: I thought, okay, I said to his management, what time 355 00:15:32,201 --> 00:15:33,761 Speaker 2: is he coming down? He goes, oh, he'll be down 356 00:15:33,801 --> 00:15:35,481 Speaker 2: probably soon. You'll be okay. So I went down for 357 00:15:35,521 --> 00:15:38,361 Speaker 2: breakfast and then all of a sudden, he comes down 358 00:15:38,361 --> 00:15:40,161 Speaker 2: without telling me he's coming down, and he walks in 359 00:15:40,561 --> 00:15:42,641 Speaker 2: with no fucking songs on those shoes or bird feet, 360 00:15:42,921 --> 00:15:45,521 Speaker 2: walking around like it's just on a holiday. And I'll 361 00:15:45,561 --> 00:15:46,961 Speaker 2: go to him, what are you doing men? And he 362 00:15:47,041 --> 00:15:49,361 Speaker 2: just goes, it's okay, bro, it's okay, you know. 363 00:15:49,361 --> 00:15:50,881 Speaker 1: What I mean. And I was just you got to 364 00:15:50,921 --> 00:15:51,881 Speaker 1: tell me, man, you know what I mean. 365 00:15:51,921 --> 00:15:54,481 Speaker 2: I had to put him into a perspective about what 366 00:15:54,681 --> 00:15:57,401 Speaker 2: it's like in Australia. It's not like you might go 367 00:15:57,481 --> 00:15:59,681 Speaker 2: around and do bai like this and they don't really care. 368 00:16:00,201 --> 00:16:02,641 Speaker 2: But Sydney's different, you know what I mean. Australia is 369 00:16:02,641 --> 00:16:05,481 Speaker 2: different because everyone wants to know you, and you can't 370 00:16:05,481 --> 00:16:07,961 Speaker 2: trust everyone. You know. Not everyone's there just for a photo, 371 00:16:08,041 --> 00:16:09,241 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Some of them put their 372 00:16:09,281 --> 00:16:11,881 Speaker 2: arm around you because they want something from you, might 373 00:16:11,921 --> 00:16:13,801 Speaker 2: even take it, who knows, but we have to I 374 00:16:13,841 --> 00:16:15,161 Speaker 2: have to count upon him in the picture for that. 375 00:16:15,521 --> 00:16:18,361 Speaker 1: Were there any hairy moments for you, any hairy moments? 376 00:16:19,081 --> 00:16:19,641 Speaker 1: Not really? 377 00:16:20,681 --> 00:16:23,401 Speaker 2: You know, he was very easy to watch and you know, 378 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:25,721 Speaker 2: and I was always made I always made sure that, 379 00:16:25,841 --> 00:16:28,601 Speaker 2: you know, my surroundings was good with him. And there's 380 00:16:28,601 --> 00:16:29,161 Speaker 2: no one around. 381 00:16:29,481 --> 00:16:32,721 Speaker 1: So yeah, uh, you've got a family, right, So what 382 00:16:32,721 --> 00:16:34,961 Speaker 1: do you do if he was here for how many days? 383 00:16:35,281 --> 00:16:35,841 Speaker 2: Nine days? 384 00:16:35,921 --> 00:16:38,561 Speaker 1: Nine days? So literally that's it for you for a 385 00:16:38,601 --> 00:16:41,761 Speaker 1: family for nine days. You're just looking after him. Yeah, 386 00:16:42,281 --> 00:16:45,641 Speaker 1: you're babysitting him basically. Oh yeah, it's a babysitting job, 387 00:16:46,281 --> 00:16:46,841 Speaker 1: very much. 388 00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:49,241 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was a babysitting jobs for some of 389 00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:50,841 Speaker 2: the For some of the stuff I was doing with him, 390 00:16:51,081 --> 00:16:53,641 Speaker 2: it was like looking after a little brother. When when 391 00:16:53,641 --> 00:16:56,841 Speaker 2: you're out and you're especially to the after parties, you know, 392 00:16:57,841 --> 00:16:59,521 Speaker 2: you've got to sit with him and make sure. I'm 393 00:16:59,521 --> 00:17:02,241 Speaker 2: always asking him, do you want your drink. You want 394 00:17:02,281 --> 00:17:03,401 Speaker 2: some food to do? You want to go and get 395 00:17:03,401 --> 00:17:03,841 Speaker 2: some food? 396 00:17:03,881 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Do you want me to 397 00:17:04,641 --> 00:17:06,001 Speaker 1: get your room service? You know what I mean. 398 00:17:06,121 --> 00:17:07,801 Speaker 2: I was always making sure he was. I was carrying 399 00:17:07,801 --> 00:17:09,481 Speaker 2: his bags. I became a butler at one stage, you 400 00:17:09,481 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But you know I thought what 401 00:17:12,481 --> 00:17:14,201 Speaker 2: I looked at him one day when we were going 402 00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:16,721 Speaker 2: through a hotel and he was carrying his bags. I thought, 403 00:17:16,761 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be carrying your bags, mate, you know what 404 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Like, you're a fucking superstar. You're here, you know, 405 00:17:21,561 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: and if people want to see you, you shouldn't be fucking 406 00:17:23,801 --> 00:17:25,801 Speaker 2: reeling your bags around. So I said, every time we 407 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,521 Speaker 2: go up, bro, I carry your bags for you, all right, 408 00:17:28,761 --> 00:17:31,161 Speaker 2: give me them walk. You've got to walk like a superstar. 409 00:17:31,681 --> 00:17:34,001 Speaker 2: I'm here to protect you. It doesn't matter. I'll carry 410 00:17:34,041 --> 00:17:34,521 Speaker 2: your bags. 411 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:37,641 Speaker 1: And so, like one of those other things you got 412 00:17:37,681 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: to see, like that was. 413 00:17:38,801 --> 00:17:42,241 Speaker 2: Very hard to do, well, not only because I wasn't enjoying. 414 00:17:41,961 --> 00:17:44,561 Speaker 1: My so well, you say the party, right, I love. 415 00:17:44,521 --> 00:17:47,161 Speaker 2: To party and to watch everyone else around me party again, 416 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,801 Speaker 2: drinking and go and partying and doing this. And I'm 417 00:17:49,801 --> 00:17:52,001 Speaker 2: standing there like you know, Aunge twenty four to seven. Yep, 418 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,241 Speaker 2: everyone's okay, everyone's enjoying themselves. That was the hard part, 419 00:17:55,281 --> 00:17:57,761 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it was fun to be there. 420 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: We'dge party in Sydney. 421 00:18:00,521 --> 00:18:03,401 Speaker 2: We we got a venue next to the Crown called 422 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: the Bristol Arms. It's just been redone up and we 423 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: had three levels there. So we had the after party 424 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,281 Speaker 2: after the game there. And then in the Gold Coast 425 00:18:10,321 --> 00:18:11,401 Speaker 2: we had Keli Beach. 426 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,241 Speaker 1: And that was just that was hectic. 427 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: You know, like there was fifteen hundred people Keli Beach, 428 00:18:17,241 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: all Brazilian style in Brazilian shirts, going bloody hectic like 429 00:18:22,241 --> 00:18:25,041 Speaker 2: that was something like to walk into and for him 430 00:18:25,041 --> 00:18:26,761 Speaker 2: to see something like that was unbelievable. 431 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: I saw a picture on your Instagram of you pointing 432 00:18:30,681 --> 00:18:33,001 Speaker 1: at someone. Is that at Cali Beach? 433 00:18:33,201 --> 00:18:34,041 Speaker 2: I was at Collibeach. 434 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:36,801 Speaker 1: What was that about? Because someone wasn't doing the fucking job? Probably? 435 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:37,361 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 436 00:18:38,921 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: You know he was already upstairs in the booth. So 437 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: what I'm doing is I was I'm looking around at 438 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: the crowd. There's other people coming in, VIPs wanted to 439 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,481 Speaker 2: come in, and then you know there's people like kind 440 00:18:51,481 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: of not doing their job properly or not doing stuff 441 00:18:54,521 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: that they've promised to bring up for him, and it 442 00:18:57,001 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: was shipped me. So you know, I haven't got a radio, 443 00:18:59,041 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: and I'm ringing the person to fucking deal with something 444 00:19:01,201 --> 00:19:02,241 Speaker 2: and he's not answering his phone. 445 00:19:02,241 --> 00:19:02,521 Speaker 1: And then on. 446 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: Fucking bank, they'd get that fucking guy there, tell him 447 00:19:05,801 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: and he's fucking him right now, you know. 448 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,041 Speaker 1: What I mean. 449 00:19:08,441 --> 00:19:10,161 Speaker 2: So that was the That was the whole fucking point 450 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,561 Speaker 2: of that one. 451 00:19:13,561 --> 00:19:15,321 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, I love it. I 452 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: love it. So game day you talked about your hammy. 453 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: You blew a hammy four weeks before. I remember seeing 454 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:25,561 Speaker 1: Neil run the sidelines and so you were hobbling the sideline. 455 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,881 Speaker 2: I wasn't hobbling I talked about I think that day 456 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: I took four vaultaurent and three paneline thoughts just so 457 00:19:33,721 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: I could take the pain away from my leg in 458 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: case it did go. 459 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:38,681 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was scared because like there was. 460 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: Two points in that game where one he went to 461 00:19:41,481 --> 00:19:43,521 Speaker 2: take actually two corners one and first half one and 462 00:19:43,521 --> 00:19:46,241 Speaker 2: the second half, and I thought, oh shit, this could happen, 463 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: this is where it could happen. And I remember I 464 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: was running behind the goal and I could feel a 465 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,041 Speaker 2: twitch and I thought, oh, yeah, that's all right, that's 466 00:19:52,041 --> 00:19:53,521 Speaker 2: all right. But then I thought, if someone runs on 467 00:19:53,561 --> 00:19:55,801 Speaker 2: that pitch, and the worst fear of my life was 468 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: if that hammy goes again and it's not me not 469 00:19:58,481 --> 00:20:01,201 Speaker 2: getting to him in time before this runner gets on. Luckily, 470 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:02,801 Speaker 2: it didn't happen, you know what I mean. And I 471 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,681 Speaker 2: was all right, I got away with it, but it 472 00:20:05,721 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: was it was I've never done something like that before 473 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,201 Speaker 2: at the ground like that was insane. 474 00:20:10,281 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: You know. 475 00:20:10,521 --> 00:20:13,441 Speaker 2: To turn up at the ground, radio through will call 476 00:20:13,521 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: through that coming in, They let us in the VIP section. 477 00:20:16,241 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: We come through the tunnel of the ground back of 478 00:20:18,441 --> 00:20:21,161 Speaker 2: the stadium. He had his own changing room. He didn't 479 00:20:21,201 --> 00:20:23,001 Speaker 2: want to have he didn't want to change in the 480 00:20:23,001 --> 00:20:24,281 Speaker 2: same changing room as as the players. 481 00:20:24,321 --> 00:20:24,961 Speaker 1: He wanted his own. 482 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: So we had to make sure that that was secure 483 00:20:27,321 --> 00:20:29,801 Speaker 2: for him. Then he would when he was ready. We 484 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: came back. The crowd was just you know what, It 485 00:20:32,201 --> 00:20:35,521 Speaker 2: was very messy because everyone just had passes to be 486 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: on the on the pitch side, and it was just 487 00:20:37,761 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: like it was. 488 00:20:38,521 --> 00:20:39,761 Speaker 1: It was. It was very messy. 489 00:20:40,201 --> 00:20:42,121 Speaker 2: And so when I'm walking up and down the sideline 490 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,881 Speaker 2: Channel tenor telling me off because I'm getting in front 491 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,721 Speaker 2: of their cameras, and I remember telling one camera crew, 492 00:20:45,721 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't give a ship mate. I says, he's more 493 00:20:47,201 --> 00:20:49,761 Speaker 2: important than fucking youth film in this fucking TV show, 494 00:20:50,001 --> 00:20:51,961 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's how it was. 495 00:20:52,001 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: I didn't care. You know, I'm walking in front of 496 00:20:54,201 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: Graham Arnold was the the coach for the Australian team, 497 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,241 Speaker 2: and I remember I was watching watching Ronaldini on the 498 00:21:02,281 --> 00:21:04,081 Speaker 2: pitch and I'm standing by him and he's going to 499 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: make mate. Should I make a change? I said, no, 500 00:21:06,921 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Like it was like, what 501 00:21:09,201 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: are you saying? And then I keep walking, But it 502 00:21:11,761 --> 00:21:14,041 Speaker 2: was it was real. I've never done something where I've 503 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: had to for ninety minutes probably even more be so 504 00:21:18,481 --> 00:21:23,041 Speaker 2: switched on and watch, you know, probably like fifteen thousand fans, 505 00:21:23,321 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: and also not trust anyone who was around me on 506 00:21:26,281 --> 00:21:29,561 Speaker 2: that pitch, and because I just didn't know what angle 507 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,761 Speaker 2: anyone would come from, and lucky enoughing happened. 508 00:21:31,801 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: But it was just insane. 509 00:21:33,561 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: And then when he came off for halftime, you know, 510 00:21:36,281 --> 00:21:39,281 Speaker 2: the crowd went mental, throwing shirts down from the stands. 511 00:21:39,441 --> 00:21:41,801 Speaker 2: Full time. He wants to give his shirt away, then 512 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:44,281 Speaker 2: he wanted to shake a few hands, and then when 513 00:21:44,281 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: it was finished, we got him out of there. You know, 514 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: he didn't even wait for the other players. He just 515 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: wants to get out of there, you know what I mean. 516 00:21:49,481 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: So did the other player's party with him. 517 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,721 Speaker 2: There was a few that came back to the after party. 518 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:58,441 Speaker 2: They came back, not many, but yeah, he didn't care, 519 00:21:58,481 --> 00:22:00,841 Speaker 2: you know. Was it was all about him and his 520 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: close mates. That was it. It was funny actually because 521 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,801 Speaker 2: on the second, I think it was the second day 522 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: he'd been in Sydney, he said to me, let's go 523 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: for a drink and some food. So I arranged to 524 00:22:12,681 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: go to this place, right it was in Sydney rooftop. 525 00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: We'll go there, relax And as we got in the car, 526 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: he speaks in Brazilian to his manager and then all 527 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's going, Neil, there, put your maps 528 00:22:27,961 --> 00:22:29,761 Speaker 2: on and change it to this venue and I'm going 529 00:22:29,761 --> 00:22:31,721 Speaker 2: But that's not where we're going, mate, I says, We're 530 00:22:31,761 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: going to the venue I've just organized with you know, 531 00:22:34,001 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: drinks and food for you, and it's all been laid out, 532 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,321 Speaker 2: you know, VIP and everything, and he's going, no, we're 533 00:22:38,321 --> 00:22:40,801 Speaker 2: not going in now, said what do you mean? He says, oh, 534 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,201 Speaker 2: we change our minds, we go somewhere else. I said, 535 00:22:43,241 --> 00:22:44,721 Speaker 2: but he didn't tell me, and he just goes, yeah, 536 00:22:44,721 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: because we didn't want to tell anyone else. I said, what, 537 00:22:47,281 --> 00:22:49,561 Speaker 2: Because we want to go by ourselves. I said, okay, 538 00:22:49,561 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: Where were going? He said, Bondi Beach. I said, what 539 00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:53,561 Speaker 2: has a Bondi beach? I said, where are we going 540 00:22:53,561 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: on Bondi Beach? He goes, we go a little cafe, 541 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: Brazilian cafe. I said, we go and meet a soccer 542 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,201 Speaker 2: player who played for Sydney FC Costa and I're going 543 00:23:01,321 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: really and he says, yes, we turned up at this 544 00:23:03,321 --> 00:23:06,281 Speaker 2: cafe and nowhere of a lie, it is the smallest 545 00:23:06,281 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: cafe in the world in Bondai Beach and it's on 546 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: the corner and you know, there's no one there. And 547 00:23:12,481 --> 00:23:14,881 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what the fuck have I got myself into here? 548 00:23:14,921 --> 00:23:18,681 Speaker 2: Like I'm by myself and We've just gone from going 549 00:23:18,721 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: to a safe venue where I know everything, the security 550 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,161 Speaker 2: downstairs now to now a Bondive beach where if any 551 00:23:24,241 --> 00:23:27,001 Speaker 2: fans find out we're here, I'm fucked, you know, what 552 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,321 Speaker 2: I mean. 553 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,521 Speaker 1: I'm literally fucked and Bondai in Brazil they go together 554 00:23:31,681 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Brazilian backgound. 555 00:23:32,481 --> 00:23:35,641 Speaker 2: I'm standing in this cafe and it's like it must 556 00:23:35,681 --> 00:23:38,241 Speaker 2: have been about maybe four o'clock in the afternoon, and 557 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: I've just walked in Ronaldinho. People have seen him, and 558 00:23:41,441 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: I've already looked out the windows and people are on 559 00:23:43,241 --> 00:23:44,801 Speaker 2: the phones, and it's like, is he really in there? 560 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: Is he really in there? 561 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,721 Speaker 2: And all this paper, this brown paper, starts going on 562 00:23:48,721 --> 00:23:50,401 Speaker 2: on the windows, and I'm going, what the fuck's going 563 00:23:50,441 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: on here? And they're closing it off for a private 564 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: party for him, and then I'm gone, what And then 565 00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, and I remember they said, yeah, 566 00:23:57,921 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: we're going to do a party for Ronaldinho and I said, oh, 567 00:24:00,281 --> 00:24:02,001 Speaker 2: how long is this partly gone for? We ended up 568 00:24:02,001 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: getting out of there at five o'clock in the morning, 569 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,561 Speaker 2: so we live for twelve hours. 570 00:24:06,681 --> 00:24:08,001 Speaker 1: Good fan, Patty, Well, it. 571 00:24:07,961 --> 00:24:10,281 Speaker 2: Wasn't for me because I'm sitting there like doing nothing 572 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,041 Speaker 2: in a little small caf it probably the size of 573 00:24:12,041 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: the studio, and it was just Brazilian music. 574 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: A lot of girls, a fucking a lot of girls 575 00:24:18,321 --> 00:24:19,001 Speaker 1: and guys. 576 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,481 Speaker 2: But it was just like it was just something he wanted, 577 00:24:21,481 --> 00:24:22,881 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's it to hang out 578 00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: with you know people. 579 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,321 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, brilliant, very different any stories from the Gold 580 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,761 Speaker 1: Coast while you're here, because you spent how many days 581 00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: of Sydney and how many days on the coast. 582 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,081 Speaker 2: So I was about five days in Sydney or four 583 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,921 Speaker 2: days and then he flew back to Sydney to fly 584 00:24:37,001 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: out to Dubai. Yeah, that was That was funny too 585 00:24:39,961 --> 00:24:42,481 Speaker 2: because when we when we when we left Gold Coast, 586 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: we just got a normal flight back, so it was 587 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,001 Speaker 2: just on a on a virgin domestic flight, well in 588 00:24:49,481 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: business or well he got he went into business, yeah, 589 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: and I sat just behind him. But to wait it 590 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,681 Speaker 2: was just so funny, like I'm thinking, okay, what what 591 00:24:57,721 --> 00:24:59,401 Speaker 2: planes are there? And when we got to the airport, 592 00:24:59,681 --> 00:25:01,321 Speaker 2: he says, we just get a flight and I said what, Yeah, 593 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,801 Speaker 2: but we're on a different flight. He says, no, no, no, 594 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,361 Speaker 2: we're on just the normal domestic flight. You know when 595 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,881 Speaker 2: you wait to go on your plane and you're at 596 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,361 Speaker 2: the gate and we're and they wouldn't let us through. 597 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: I said, because I went down to say can we 598 00:25:11,921 --> 00:25:13,281 Speaker 2: get privileged to go through? 599 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,001 Speaker 1: VIP says, no, no, no, no. 600 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,641 Speaker 2: I said what I need to I says, I've got 601 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,561 Speaker 2: really someone with me, and I fucking need to get 602 00:25:18,561 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: through because this is not good and we can't do it. 603 00:25:20,961 --> 00:25:22,121 Speaker 2: I says, You're gonna have to wait in the line. 604 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,081 Speaker 2: I said, really, And I thought I can't leave him 605 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: because now the line's getting bigger and bigger, and I 606 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: wanted to find someone who had more authority. And then 607 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: his management said just leave it, leave it, and I went, okay. 608 00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: And we're sitting there and you know, when the line, 609 00:25:35,801 --> 00:25:37,761 Speaker 2: the gates build up, and you've got this big queue 610 00:25:37,801 --> 00:25:40,521 Speaker 2: waiting to put their tickets in, and everyone's just going 611 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: that's him, it's him. And I'm thinking, oh, this is 612 00:25:44,441 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: not good. And I'm just thinking we're standing here like 613 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,241 Speaker 2: like sitting ducks, and it's just like one by one, 614 00:25:51,281 --> 00:25:53,321 Speaker 2: they're all coming up with the cameras and they're coming 615 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,041 Speaker 2: with it, and they're trying to annoy him, and in 616 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,041 Speaker 2: the end, it's just like, please just leave us alone, 617 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then he ended up 618 00:25:58,721 --> 00:26:00,801 Speaker 2: sitting on the edge of the window so no one 619 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: could see him. He just put his head down, he 620 00:26:02,721 --> 00:26:04,081 Speaker 2: had his hat on and he just put it down 621 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,041 Speaker 2: so no one can see him. And he even it's 622 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: funny this. He even turned his diamond necklace around the 623 00:26:11,241 --> 00:26:13,201 Speaker 2: opposite way so you couldn't see the diamonds. 624 00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, what was the Gold Coast? Like Gold Coast? 625 00:26:16,441 --> 00:26:18,961 Speaker 2: He really enjoyed the Gold Coasts, as he said before, 626 00:26:18,961 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: it's more like you know, Brazil style, the vibes, and 627 00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:24,961 Speaker 2: he was more relaxed. As I said, he loved the casino, 628 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: it's twenty four hours. He loved the weather. You know, 629 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: we were staying at the Star. You know, he really 630 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: you could see he was more he was he was 631 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 2: relaxed than Sydney's more chaotic for him. Didn't like he 632 00:26:37,441 --> 00:26:39,801 Speaker 2: loved the Crown. Don't mean he loved the Crown, but 633 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: he just didn't like the gambling side of it. He 634 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,801 Speaker 2: didn't like the whole night life in Sydney. He hated it. 635 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,001 Speaker 2: But yeah, he really loved the Gold Coast. And you 636 00:26:48,001 --> 00:26:50,521 Speaker 2: know what by then, as I said, I think, I 637 00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: think I've said it before, but it took, as I 638 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,681 Speaker 2: said to me, about thirty six hours to get his trust. 639 00:26:56,041 --> 00:27:00,041 Speaker 2: Once I got his trust, we were different together. And 640 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: you he called me bro at the start but then 641 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,401 Speaker 2: he started to call me by my name. And then 642 00:27:05,441 --> 00:27:07,561 Speaker 2: there was one day this was the funniest thing and 643 00:27:07,721 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: I'll go back to Sydney. He knocked on my door 644 00:27:10,761 --> 00:27:14,041 Speaker 2: to come down for breakfast. And that's when I know 645 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,041 Speaker 2: that I've got his trust, you know what I mean. 646 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: He would always wait for me. You know, there was 647 00:27:17,961 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 2: one time, you know, I'm thinking I'm I going a 648 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,281 Speaker 2: bit too far, but no, he liked it. And I 649 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: think it was after the soccer game he realized how 650 00:27:23,481 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: much I was putting into the job for him. There 651 00:27:26,001 --> 00:27:28,721 Speaker 2: was one time we came back from an event at 652 00:27:28,721 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: the Crown and his management left him and it was 653 00:27:32,201 --> 00:27:34,281 Speaker 2: just me and him in the foyer and he looked 654 00:27:34,321 --> 00:27:36,801 Speaker 2: at me and he goes, Neil, what do you want 655 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: to do? And I said, We'll take you back to 656 00:27:38,681 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: your room. He said, no, no, me and you go eat. 657 00:27:41,321 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: I said, what, yeah, let's go restaurant, me and you. 658 00:27:43,681 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: I went you sure? He says, yeah, look, talk, we've 659 00:27:45,681 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: gotta have Italian. We're going to pasta. We sat in 660 00:27:48,521 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: the in the in the restaurant, in the crowd, just 661 00:27:50,281 --> 00:27:52,561 Speaker 2: me and him, and that's when you just get to 662 00:27:52,561 --> 00:27:54,281 Speaker 2: know that, you know, there's a trust figure there and 663 00:27:54,561 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: he now likes you as a friend. And it's funny 664 00:27:58,721 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: because I said at the end of the tour, I 665 00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: never got any photos with him because you have to 666 00:28:04,441 --> 00:28:07,521 Speaker 2: keep that vasionalism where you want to get that photo 667 00:28:07,521 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: because you're a fan. But then you realize if you 668 00:28:09,801 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 2: do that, you become one of the fans that you push. 669 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,601 Speaker 1: Away, you know what I mean. 670 00:28:13,681 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: So it's like, I want a photo, but you know 671 00:28:15,321 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: that he hates getting that photos all the time. And 672 00:28:17,761 --> 00:28:19,241 Speaker 2: I remember when. 673 00:28:18,921 --> 00:28:21,281 Speaker 1: You've also got memories, which is far stronger than. 674 00:28:21,561 --> 00:28:23,801 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but the thing is you want that, 675 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,161 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like I can never 676 00:28:25,201 --> 00:28:26,521 Speaker 2: go back and go look at this, look at that, 677 00:28:26,561 --> 00:28:28,601 Speaker 2: look at this, you know what I mean. And then 678 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,281 Speaker 2: I remember we went to the airport when he was 679 00:28:30,441 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: eventually the tour was over and I was dropping him 680 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,521 Speaker 2: off at the airport and I remember I was shook 681 00:28:34,561 --> 00:28:36,761 Speaker 2: his hand and I went to walk away and goes 682 00:28:37,201 --> 00:28:40,081 Speaker 2: bro I go, yeah, man, and he just goes photo. 683 00:28:40,961 --> 00:28:42,561 Speaker 1: I said, oh, what do you mean he goes me 684 00:28:42,561 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: and you get a photo? Yeah? 685 00:28:44,081 --> 00:28:46,161 Speaker 2: And I went, oh really, and he goes and that's 686 00:28:46,161 --> 00:28:48,281 Speaker 2: when I went shit, you know what I mean, I 687 00:28:48,721 --> 00:28:50,841 Speaker 2: really wanted to ask for that photo, but then he 688 00:28:51,001 --> 00:28:54,201 Speaker 2: said no, let's get a photo, and then AS went wow, okay, 689 00:28:54,321 --> 00:28:57,081 Speaker 2: and then I really felt that it was just more 690 00:28:57,121 --> 00:28:59,281 Speaker 2: than a job after that, you know, after a couple 691 00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:01,081 Speaker 2: of days and especially that at. 692 00:29:00,961 --> 00:29:03,321 Speaker 1: The airport, then do you reckon you look after him again? Yep, 693 00:29:03,361 --> 00:29:04,641 Speaker 1: it's already done deal. 694 00:29:05,601 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's already come said he's going to come 695 00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:11,921 Speaker 2: back out, wants to come back out next year with 696 00:29:12,081 --> 00:29:14,161 Speaker 2: a few more players, and he's you know, there's an 697 00:29:14,201 --> 00:29:16,721 Speaker 2: offer there to go over to Dubai and maybe do something. 698 00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:19,841 Speaker 1: To How good. Is there anything else on the horizon. 699 00:29:19,721 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a few, but one one is 700 00:29:22,641 --> 00:29:23,881 Speaker 2: you can't talk about one of them. 701 00:29:24,361 --> 00:29:26,001 Speaker 1: I can't talk about one of them. 702 00:29:26,081 --> 00:29:30,841 Speaker 2: But he's pretty big, big influencer, massive in what he 703 00:29:30,961 --> 00:29:34,121 Speaker 2: says on the Internet and social media. All depends on 704 00:29:34,201 --> 00:29:38,281 Speaker 2: his visa to get accepted Australia. Does he have a 705 00:29:38,281 --> 00:29:41,641 Speaker 2: criminal record, Yeah, he has other criminal record. I think 706 00:29:41,681 --> 00:29:42,721 Speaker 2: he did get probably. 707 00:29:44,481 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: I think it's that. I think it's that, Yeah, that 708 00:29:46,561 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: what he did is the issue. And what about another 709 00:29:50,881 --> 00:29:52,401 Speaker 1: massive event that's happening soon. 710 00:29:53,001 --> 00:29:54,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's there's a few in the in 711 00:29:54,761 --> 00:29:57,481 Speaker 2: the pipelines, but I think from what from what I've 712 00:29:57,521 --> 00:30:01,921 Speaker 2: done with Ronaldinho. I'm releasing a book on Ronaldinho what 713 00:30:01,961 --> 00:30:04,961 Speaker 2: it was like, So that's going to be released probably March, 714 00:30:05,041 --> 00:30:07,401 Speaker 2: because I've already started doing it, so that's going to 715 00:30:07,401 --> 00:30:08,001 Speaker 2: come out in the shop. 716 00:30:08,081 --> 00:30:10,921 Speaker 1: So I mean, there's two things that are amazing about that. 717 00:30:11,041 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: Firstly that you're writing a book about and secondly that 718 00:30:14,241 --> 00:30:15,521 Speaker 1: you can write, read and read. 719 00:30:16,721 --> 00:30:21,761 Speaker 2: Maybe I've got to go straight