WEBVTT - CRAZY IN LOVE WITH MARIE & JAKE

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<v Speaker 1>I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming.

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<v Speaker 2>She how do I put?

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<v Speaker 3>This?

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't a fan of my kissing style.

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<v Speaker 1>We would a boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in a trash bin, he's non recyclable.

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<v Speaker 3>Catching them mu.

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<v Speaker 4>I love being in love. I love love. On today's

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<v Speaker 4>episode of Where's your Head At, we're sitting down with

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<v Speaker 4>Marie and Jake, the stunning blogging couple who have traveled

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<v Speaker 4>the world doing exactly what they love.

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<v Speaker 1>This beautiful couple also run two Bali hotels, have their

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<v Speaker 1>own online academy, have an Instagram, reels masterclass, and a

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<v Speaker 1>clothing label too.

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<v Speaker 4>We get the chance to hear how they met and

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<v Speaker 4>why they started a traveling blog, and what they have

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<v Speaker 4>planned for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned to hear how you could create a living

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<v Speaker 1>doing what you love. Also, Where's your Head At is

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast that talks all things relationships, breakups, reality TV,

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<v Speaker 1>trending shows, and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 4>This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,

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<v Speaker 4>intimate detail, advice, and much more. Hey guys, Hello, welcome

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<v Speaker 4>to Where's your Head At?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having it you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great to see you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at them.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are living the dream, but you also look

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<v Speaker 1>like the most stunning couple ever. There's palm trees in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. We thought that was We thought those were real,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually a picture, but it just suits the vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>We genuinely thought that was them on the balcony Enviviron.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks amazing. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>We are environ but we were inside and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>painting and we thought it would look cool. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>very great to be here to actually chat because I

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<v Speaker 2>think a big part of what we do online is

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<v Speaker 2>to show this dream life and to inspire couples and

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<v Speaker 2>people to go after what they really want. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you love somebody, tell them go after it. But

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<v Speaker 2>also in the long form context, we can probably talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about how it's not always the dream and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the times hard and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of tension sometimes, so that would be cool to get into.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's literally, that's literally what we wanted to chat about.

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<v Speaker 4>Those exactly that stuff right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean online I followed you guys for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, the account that you've created, it's so wonder lost,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so dreamy. I mean you guys are both gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem soul in love. It's just like it's very

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<v Speaker 1>picture perfect and amazing, and I as like an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>like viewer of you guys, am totally hooked. So like, congrats,

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<v Speaker 1>double tick. But there's so much work that goes into this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I look at the content you guys create on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis and I'm like, these guys are working overtime.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you guys are entrepreneurs, like you have your

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<v Speaker 1>like feet in every single pie. So tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, we didn't plan for any of

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<v Speaker 2>this in the beginning. It kind of just evolved. We

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<v Speaker 2>met on a beach in Thailand and it's a long,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy story and we could tell it if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear it lately, it really evolved.

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<v Speaker 5>You can start, Well, that's probably long now, okay, but yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>let's start from the beginning. I'm from Germany and I

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<v Speaker 5>quit my job in twenty sixteen. I wanted to move

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<v Speaker 5>to Spain because originally I grew up in Spain with

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<v Speaker 5>my family. It was always my dream to move back,

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<v Speaker 5>and at that time I hadn't traveled that much, so

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, Okay, before I'm going to get into that,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go to Asia.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never been to Asia.

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<v Speaker 5>Just got a ticket to Thailand and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>see Thailand, Vietnam and Bali.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that time, I just came out.

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<v Speaker 5>Of a six year relationship. I was like single for

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<v Speaker 5>six months. I didn't I wasn't interested in meeting any

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<v Speaker 5>guys at all. And then there was this one day,

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<v Speaker 5>it was actually only five days into my trip, where

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<v Speaker 5>I went to the beach with a few friends and

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<v Speaker 5>Jake was sing as well, and yeah, we hit it

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<v Speaker 5>up super quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Jake was a bit of a this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this was kind of like this stage of the

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<v Speaker 2>last stages where people weren't sharing everything online, so we

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<v Speaker 2>met really organically.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we never Instagram accounts or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the on the beach with my mates

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<v Speaker 2>and Marie and a couple of her friends, and she

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<v Speaker 2>walked to the water and I like looked dark and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, how am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>bag this? You know already?

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a bit of a hobby of Jake

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<v Speaker 3>as well, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, back then, but me and my mates were sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>We looked down and said, Okay, how are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to do this? My mate actually broke the ice and

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<v Speaker 2>he went over and started to talk to them first,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was speaking with Marie and we're sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>this big circle in the water, and he went to

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<v Speaker 2>get some drinks and then I was like, cham slipping

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<v Speaker 2>in here. And then Marie and I just we just

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<v Speaker 2>we hit it off like crazy. That day. We were

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<v Speaker 2>playing games, drinking games, and just really enjoying each other's company.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next day we met up again. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of head over here straight away, which was

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<v Speaker 2>rare for me because usually it was just like a

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<v Speaker 2>fun thing. I would always mention to the girl in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning, this is not going to be serious. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to put it out there to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was young. I think I was twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>when we met. But then I bought Maria bracelet the

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<v Speaker 2>next day because she told me the favorite color and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it as her favorite color, and I gave

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<v Speaker 2>it to her and the next day we had a

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<v Speaker 2>really deep conversation. The next day, Marie told me about

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<v Speaker 2>her background and some of the difficult things she had

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<v Speaker 2>to go through and her dad passing away and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and I really just felt like this deep

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<v Speaker 2>connection and then I just we kissed on the second night.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Marie was going to Copanyan, the next island,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said to my mates, we got it where

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to meet up with these girls. We

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<v Speaker 2>went to Copagnan and then we were there for four

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<v Speaker 2>days together. And I already had a flight with my

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<v Speaker 2>mate book to Cambodia. So we left on the ferry

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<v Speaker 2>and like you know, the girls were waving because Maria

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<v Speaker 2>was with a friend of hers, they were waving goodbye,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was on the ferry, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>like what am I doing? Like why am I leaving her?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the stupid This doesn't make any sense, just

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<v Speaker 2>because I have to go to Cambodia. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>were flying to Cambodia with my mate and I told

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<v Speaker 2>him on the plane, as soon as we land, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going directly to Vietnam because that's where Marie is. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we got there. I had to get a visa,

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<v Speaker 2>and it usually takes a week or so to get

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<v Speaker 2>this visa, and I just paid some random guy to

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<v Speaker 2>take my passport and go and get it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>forced my mate to do the same thing, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, this is insane. I had two passports,

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<v Speaker 2>he only had one, so he was he wasn't super happy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just told him, I think I'm in love.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that feels like, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure like there's something different here. And then so

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<v Speaker 2>Marie went to Vietnam and we met at the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think she was kind of pretty impressed by

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<v Speaker 2>the effort that I was putting in.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I was going to say, have you ever had

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<v Speaker 4>a guy put that much effort in before?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 3>And you got even crazy afterwards.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we spent two weeks together, it was super intense.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was like we actually fell in love

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<v Speaker 5>within like two and a half weeks. And then Jake

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<v Speaker 5>had to go back because he was playing Izzie football

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<v Speaker 5>in Australia and he had a job in the winery

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<v Speaker 5>in the Barossa Valley in the essay and yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>he was like, look, my season will enter in six

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<v Speaker 5>to eight weeks and then let's catch up wherever you

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<v Speaker 5>want to, maybe Spain or whatever you think.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we went to Bali and I have to

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<v Speaker 5>say this, Jake was the first Australian I ever met.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming from Europe.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are like so easy going, so happy, positive vibes.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like hooked right away.

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<v Speaker 2>I was lucky because like, if another Aussie come in first,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have had no chance to know Jake.

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<v Speaker 5>Though I was going to Bali and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>Bali is like, you're travel destination number one.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, okay, she's going to go to Bali.

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<v Speaker 6>She's going to be so many other Aussie guys that

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<v Speaker 6>have long hair that can actually serve, and she might

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<v Speaker 6>just pick another one, you know, not just.

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<v Speaker 2>Fake surf, you know, can actually serve.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, and my friend who actually wanted to meet

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<v Speaker 5>a guy, she's like, we're going to party every day,

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<v Speaker 5>like I don't care what you say that Jake's not here,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like okay. And then three days the

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<v Speaker 5>end of partying, Jake's calls me and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 5>talked to my boss and I told him I really

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<v Speaker 5>like you and I would come over in two days

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like what, So his give two games,

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<v Speaker 3>came over to Bali, spent two weeks with us.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The brutal part was I had to miss these two games,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had to talk. I had to have a

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<v Speaker 2>meeting with the captain of my because I was on

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<v Speaker 2>a contract. I was playing country football, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a contract and I was getting paid a small

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<v Speaker 2>amount to play. I had to have a meeting with

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<v Speaker 2>my coach and my captain and tell them why I

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<v Speaker 2>was leaving and I couldn't play the next two games.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just said to them, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you. I'm in love, it's like, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, what is wrong with you? They literally thought

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<v Speaker 2>there was something wrong with me, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Well they would have been like, yeah, this comes first

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<v Speaker 4>before everything our so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>True, like I think they credit to them. They were

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<v Speaker 2>just like, you're you're crazy, but okay, if you know

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<v Speaker 2>this is what it is, and I think I was.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I knew feeling something, what it was with

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<v Speaker 2>her was real because I was willing to make myself

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<v Speaker 2>look like the biggest idiot in front of all my teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>my coach, whatever, and I didn't care. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>care because I wanted to see her so bad, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had this empty feeling in my stomach, knowing she

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<v Speaker 2>was in Bali with other long haired Aussie guys and

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<v Speaker 2>she would like forget about me, and so I flew

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<v Speaker 2>back the We spent twelve days together and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>we became like boyfriend and girlfriend. And it was also

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<v Speaker 2>a period of time where we fell in love with

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<v Speaker 2>Bali and we started like really imagining what our life

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<v Speaker 2>could look like together and imagine if we could be

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<v Speaker 2>in Bali and have our own place here and do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just live a free life, like we were

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<v Speaker 2>truly thinking about it. I flew back home to Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and that's.

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<v Speaker 5>When I decided to change my plans. So I was

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<v Speaker 5>already deep into my Spain plans. My entire family was

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<v Speaker 5>going to come in December. We met in July. My

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<v Speaker 5>family was going to come in December for Christmas to Spain,

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<v Speaker 5>and they'd already booked flights. Everyone gave me like goodbye

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<v Speaker 5>presents to move to Spain. I'd organized an apartment, I've

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<v Speaker 5>spent like seven thousand Ausie dollars to like go to

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<v Speaker 5>a UNI there and do my master because I'd only

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<v Speaker 5>done my Bechlan in Germany. So it was like really

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<v Speaker 5>committed and I was like, oh my god, what am

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<v Speaker 5>I doing? And I told my friends. One of my

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<v Speaker 5>friends actually flew out, but she's like, Marie, you're out

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<v Speaker 5>of her mind. You just quit your job after six years.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you met like this random dude, Like have you

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<v Speaker 5>seen his Facebook account?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's crazy, he's just drunk all the time and like,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, no, he's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>And she's like, I'm going to come over and check

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<v Speaker 5>him out and tell you whether you should really go

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<v Speaker 5>for him. And she really liked him and she could

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<v Speaker 5>see the energy we had together. But yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 5>quit everything. I decided to call my mom and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I'm not going to Spain anymore. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when we decided to start traveling together.

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<v Speaker 5>We both had saved some money, so I think at

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<v Speaker 5>that time we had like four or five weeks left.

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<v Speaker 3>Jake went back to Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>I was still in Bali, and then I think a

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<v Speaker 5>few days later he called me again and he's like, look, Marie,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got four days off in between my game and

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<v Speaker 5>the next training or like practice or whatever, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to come over for three days to Bali. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was like okay, like he's really committed, so I

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<v Speaker 5>could commit as well. And I know this is what

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<v Speaker 5>made me then quit my dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy that you guys obviously have met, one

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<v Speaker 1>from Australia, one from Germany, and it's almost like against

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<v Speaker 1>all the odds, you've chosen each other. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just so special to hear, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of people who meet from different countries and

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<v Speaker 1>they just think put that in the too hard basket.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess you guys do have something special, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I think that's why your account has

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<v Speaker 1>done so well, because you can feel that energy through

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<v Speaker 1>the screen, like it's not put on. You can feel

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<v Speaker 1>the love and that's I mean, it's beautiful to see.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys are obviously super authentic. But obviously, as

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<v Speaker 1>with all relationships, there's hard times, and I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>guys probably I don't know, but I'm assuming that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak too much about the hard times, just based

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<v Speaker 1>on your account, like I have heard some things. But

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you guys are a normal couple. I'm sure you fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we delve into that a little bit for sure?

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually interesting because we've just sit an update on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 5>We used to do YouTube, and we stopped for three

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<v Speaker 5>years when we stopped traveling during the pandemic and stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>and we just started again and did like a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of an update what has happened in the last three years,

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<v Speaker 5>and we also mentioned it there. So if you look

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<v Speaker 5>at our account, if you first get there and you

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<v Speaker 5>just see the reels, the reels are like an outlet

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<v Speaker 5>of like our niche, which is travel couples and like

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<v Speaker 5>travel like destinations. So it's it looks very perfect and inspirational.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you dive into our stories a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>times there, I especially am very vulnerable because I just realized,

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<v Speaker 5>like a lot of people can relate to it. And

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram is not only about being perfect anymore. It's more

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<v Speaker 5>about being relatable sharing the things you go through. So

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<v Speaker 5>whether it was like I had really really bad skin

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<v Speaker 5>issues when I came up my pill like a few

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<v Speaker 5>years ago when we were traveling and we did a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of adventure travel, so it was always dirty and

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<v Speaker 5>I just couldn't handle it, like even being in front

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<v Speaker 5>of the camera holding my phone in my face.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a big issue for me.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, the community is really interested in hearing those

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<v Speaker 5>things as well, because obviously it's also relatable and then

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<v Speaker 5>also like my past, that my yeah that my dad

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<v Speaker 5>passed away, or like I'm still trying to go through

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<v Speaker 5>some mental issues because of that, and how Jake acts

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<v Speaker 5>with it and stuff. I'm always trying to share these

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<v Speaker 5>things in terms of like having arguments whenever.

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<v Speaker 3>We do Q and as we do mention it.

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<v Speaker 5>But obviously it's not the first thing you do that

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<v Speaker 5>you grab your point and like record it when you're

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<v Speaker 5>in an argument. We're trying to Yeah, I use the

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram now in the stories, as I said, to just

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<v Speaker 5>give a bit more content and authenticity.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the hardest part in our relationship, it's

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<v Speaker 2>our strength, and it's also our biggest weakness, is that

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<v Speaker 2>coming from Australia, I'm very laid back. Things don't really

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<v Speaker 2>bother me too much. And when I'm too much like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it leaves a lot of the stress and and everything

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<v Speaker 2>up to Marie to deal with because I'm just not

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<v Speaker 2>caring about it. I'm like, yeah, whatever it will help,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll deal with itself. And then because Marie is not

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<v Speaker 2>like that, she will have to jump in and try

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<v Speaker 2>to fit you know, deal with whatever's giving her anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>and so and especially once we started working together, we've

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<v Speaker 2>never had fights just based around our relationship, our relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>what we like, the things we want to do. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all about work where we've really hit some really hard hurdles.

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<v Speaker 2>And the hardest thing I think for both of us

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<v Speaker 2>is to try to balance the work, the social media,

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<v Speaker 2>the fun, the relationship, the love. And we've found in

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<v Speaker 2>the past we've maybe gone too far into the work

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<v Speaker 2>side of things, and then with social media, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>all encompassing. So Marie is online on her phone a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and then in the past I've sometimes started to like

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<v Speaker 2>look at social media as the enemy because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, social media has taken my partner away from me,

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<v Speaker 2>and Instagram is toxic, and you know, because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many good things about it, but of course there's also

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<v Speaker 2>so much bad and communicating those things has been the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest part of our relationship. It's me trying to understand

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<v Speaker 2>where Marie's coming from, and even though it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>sense to me, it is her truth. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's I heard I heard once a metaphor which made

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<v Speaker 2>so much sense to me. And made me realize that

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<v Speaker 2>I have to like listen to Marie and how she's feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it sounds like insanity to me. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, if you have a young you

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<v Speaker 2>have a young child and they are you know, coming

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<v Speaker 2>into your room and they're two years old and they're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>d dad, there's a monster under my bed, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really scared. As a parent, you wouldn't tell the kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just go to bed, like stop thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>You're fine, Like there's not a stupid monster. What are

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<v Speaker 2>you thinking? You're you're crazy, like you're seeing things. You

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<v Speaker 2>would just give them a hug and say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come in there with you and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to show you that there's nothing there. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here for you, hug them, be there for them

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<v Speaker 2>until they go to sleep again. And that's how you

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<v Speaker 2>need to treat your partner. So if they're feeling something

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't make sense to you, they're still feeling it,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't change the fact that they're feeling it. So

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<v Speaker 2>you just got to hug them, say I'm supporting you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be there, and you know, over a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of time, they will calm down and it will

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<v Speaker 2>all be okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I think a general man and women are quite different already,

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<v Speaker 5>like in terms of how they act, but then being

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<v Speaker 5>from two different countries or even continents, it just shows

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of times the way we grew up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just very different. Jake was always like very protected.

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<v Speaker 5>To make money in Australia so easy, like what you

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<v Speaker 5>make even twenty six dollars an hour when you work

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<v Speaker 5>at McDonald's or something, so like for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Like.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything just seems a bit easier, and I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I have to. I think I've already grown a lot before.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I haven't really experienced really intense loss like Marie

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<v Speaker 2>with her with her father, so that's also something that

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<v Speaker 2>we're working through. It's like Marie has experienced that life

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<v Speaker 2>can be amazing and then just completely change in an instant,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that that fear is still there for her.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I've never had anything like that. Everything has

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<v Speaker 2>been okay, it will be okay. So just dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>that as well is something that we try to communicate

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot. And it's not perfect. Like we fight,

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<v Speaker 2>I think just as much as any other couple. But

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<v Speaker 2>what we're really good at is quickly turning it around,

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<v Speaker 2>coming together, saying sorry, talking about it. We kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have to because we're so close and we spent every

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<v Speaker 2>single day together.

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<v Speaker 3>Last we're online every day.

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<v Speaker 5>But I've already started to choose this show and say, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>today we're not feeling it or like it's not a

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<v Speaker 5>good day.

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<v Speaker 3>And people are also really supportive.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I've never tried to pretend I'm okay and then

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<v Speaker 5>put a face on and do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would just make me sick from the inside.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't be I couldn't be late.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with that. I feel like though, as well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're honest with your audience about you guys, and

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<v Speaker 4>that you're like having an off day and you're arguing

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<v Speaker 4>in that, I feel like your audience would come more

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<v Speaker 4>invested because nobody wants to be honest. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 4>see this couple that are like posting like all this glamorous.

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<v Speaker 1>Times, like yeah, nice to see the back end.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If you think about it, like any TV show or

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<v Speaker 4>anything you watch, you always get invested in the couple

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<v Speaker 4>that has like trials, yeah, trials and tribulation. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>the same I say with my girlfriend, like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be fake and post us like having a

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<v Speaker 4>glamorous time all the time, Like that's not it's not real,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's just yeah, I had that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys find that? Like, I don't know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just personal for me. So I was wondering if

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys feel like this. But I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>more engaged my account becomes, the more anxious. I guess, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys feel anxiety from like that high engagement?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I have openly spoken about it. But I had

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<v Speaker 5>my first like really mental breakdown during the time when

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<v Speaker 5>COVID hit and it was like Black Lives Matters and

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<v Speaker 5>the bushfires in Australia. We did a big campaign for

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<v Speaker 5>that where a few influences in Australia came together, like

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<v Speaker 5>Jake had this idea and I think all up. We

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<v Speaker 5>donated half a million dollars, which was great, but then

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<v Speaker 5>on the opposite side we were graced. Yeah exactly, but

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<v Speaker 5>then people were like you you were the reason why

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<v Speaker 5>those bushfires happened because you travel and during COVID a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people just felt super negative. So I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if you felt it, but like the negativity just

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<v Speaker 5>gets put on you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we were in Bali where it wasn't that bad.

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<v Speaker 5>So people hated us because we could go out, but

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<v Speaker 5>if we didn't go out, they're like, oh, now you're

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<v Speaker 5>pretending you're also not in a good place even though

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 5>you are. So it was like you could you I

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<v Speaker 5>can't please everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was going to say that you can't please everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>They're always going to find a way and they try

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<v Speaker 4>to take it out on people in your position.

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<v Speaker 1>Delete or block the best two buttons on sexual media.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so do you get much hate?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>On a daily.

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<v Speaker 3>Basis, we're really lucky. We're also very.

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<v Speaker 5>I think over the years we've been doing this now

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<v Speaker 5>for six years, we think about how we communicate things

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<v Speaker 5>and what to say. Sometimes in some like sensitive topics

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<v Speaker 5>we're not even like talking about anymore, or like if

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.720
<v Speaker 5>something political comes up, we're like, look, we're not journalists,

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<v Speaker 5>like we are doing something to inspire you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We travel a couple. We don't know what.

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<v Speaker 5>Is true about this war or this whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 5>so we're just trying to stay off it, which has

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<v Speaker 5>made it a bit nicer for us.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say in general, compared to the rest,

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<v Speaker 2>we get very little, very little compared to other people.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the trol those over anyway, Like if like

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<v Speaker 4>control now, it's just like, come on, you fucking lose

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<v Speaker 4>like I had on the other day, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>just really I was like, what come on, Yeah, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys go being away from family and friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Because obviously, I mean, you're in Australia now, but you

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>are based in Bali, So how do you go being away.

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<v Speaker 3>For the longest time?

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, we were traveling NonStop, so we wouldn't

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 5>be in a place longer than ten to fourteen days,

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.479
<v Speaker 5>which meant we had zero connection to anyone really except

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 5>of ourselves and maybe people that would travel with us

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.880
<v Speaker 5>for a bit. In the beginning, it wasn't a problem

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<v Speaker 5>during the pandemic. It was the first time that I

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 5>really struggled with it because there were people left in Bali,

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 5>but also quite a lot of people left the island

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 5>and everything was so you didn't know what would happen

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 5>in the future, and like I needed someone to talk

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 5>to and also like a bit of female energy to

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.719
<v Speaker 5>have by my side, just being with your your man,

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, and talking on the phone. It's different. You

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 5>have different time zones, so like it's just not never

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 5>the same. So I really struggled.

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<v Speaker 2>I think have them. What changed was that we had

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the choice to be able to see our family whenever

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 2>we wanted. So all of a sudden, like hey, even

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 2>if we wanted to, if we wanted to fly to

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Australia right now, we cannot.

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 5>That's crazy because Australia was close for two two and

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 5>a half years and we tried to get a visa

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 5>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>They denied it. They were like, no, not enough proof

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 3>that you were a couple, and we're like, okay, wow.

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 2>We got denied. It was like, yeah, we've been We've

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 2>been planning this elaborate scam for five years. We can

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>get a fake visa. What we got denied denied? We

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.919
<v Speaker 2>now are setting up more of a lifestyle where we

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 2>can spend a bit more time in Australia to visit

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 2>my family, We can go back to Europe to visit

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Marie's family, and then we can be in Bali for

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a few months to have our own little family with

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 2>our dogs there as well. So now we are planning

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>a life where it's maybe like four months four months here,

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 2>four months here and we just kind of rotate with

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>a couple of like cool trips in between for now.

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Because we've realized, like how how much can change, Like.

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 5>Within the six six years, it feels like a lifetime already,

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 5>so we're like, you know, the next few years, we

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 5>can really imagine ourselves. We're looking for a base in

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 5>Spain right now, actually to have a base in Europe,

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 5>have a base in Bali, and then see our friends

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 5>and family at home and they can visit us because

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 5>now your friends are coming over from Bali, and then

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 5>they can visit us in Spain from Germany, so that's nice.

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 3>And then who knows in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to imagine. It's hard to think about that

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 2>this is actually a reality for us. And it was

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of what we were planning in the beginning when

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>we came together, because, like you said, we said, we

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 2>love each other, we will make it work no matter what,

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and life will figure itself out. And it was that

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>true belief and it sounds cheesy as anything, but we

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>followed our hearts. We said, let's just go with this

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>feeling and figure it out along the way. Nothing else matters.

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 2>And about a year into our relationship. It was pretty

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 2>clear that if we were going to be able to

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.719
<v Speaker 2>see both of our families and live this life together,

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>either I would have to go to Germany and live

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 2>there or Marie would have to come to Australia, and

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 2>neither of those things were really an option. So we realized,

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 2>we have to be online. We have to do something

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>where we can work remotely from anywhere and earn an income.

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And the first goal that we had was how do

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>we make enough money, like eight hundred dollars a month

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 2>so that we can pay for some flights and live

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>in Bali and be a little bit in the middle.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>And so that was kind of the goal that we had.

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 2>And now it's become a reality and it's so cool

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>now and I think it's much more possible for anybody

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 2>than what a lot of people think. Remote work has

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 2>become huge. There's so many digital nomads working in Bali

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>right now. Everyone kind of realized a little bit over

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the last two and a half years that you don't

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 2>have to be in the office. You can find a

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>way to work from anywhere, and so it's really cool

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 2>now to see this new generation of people like us

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>figuring out what their dream life is and realizing, hey,

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>it might not be in Australia, or it might be

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Australia and a bit of Balley,

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>or it might be a little bit of Europe as well,

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>and working on how they can make that actually happen

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>by figuring out how they can earn an income online.

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Are we seeing so many people doing it?

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And I reckon, like so many people would look at

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys and be like, it is possible, and these

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>guys are living proof that this can be done. And

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's awesome that so many people look up

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to you guys, and it's such a great quality of

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>life that you guys are almost promoting. And I think,

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, people would be silly not to try, right.

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you have like an idea, if you

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 4>have an.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Idea about the business, go do it.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>What would you say to people who are thinking about

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>taking the leap?

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 2>That's it's a perfect start. I would say that first

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 2>of all, if you really feel like it's something that

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>you want, don't do it because it looks cool that

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 2>other people are doing it. That's a big mistake that

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people make. It's like they see us

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and they go, Ah, that looks really cool that Marie

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 2>and Jay can just live anywhere and work anywhere. But

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm a homebody and I actually like being at home.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense because Marie and I we travel

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and that's actually one of the hardest things

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 2>is that we're constantly moving. It's really hard for us

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to have a routine. And some people just like routine.

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.959
<v Speaker 2>So it looks cool what we're doing. But if it's

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>not you, then don't go for that. So go for

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>something that's truly important to you and it's who you

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>really are, and that if that is what you feel

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and you know it to be true, then you really

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 2>just got to dive in. I think the most important

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 2>thing for people nowadays is to figure out what skills

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 2>are going to be useful in the future.

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 3>And what do you also love doing and.

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>What you love doing. Don't just learn it because it

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>looks cool. And what's coming is all of this kind

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff like how to create content, how to tell

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 2>a story, how to manage a social media channel, how

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 2>to market, how to do Facebook ads, how to do

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.719
<v Speaker 2>graphic design. So many people are starting up little of

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>freelance businesses because they have skills that other people don't have.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And so if you have something like that, if you

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>committed to it for six months, you can get so

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>far ahead. But a lot of people give up in

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>the first couple of weeks. But if you say, if

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Marie and I, it was like two years of posting

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 2>every single day before we really realized, wow, this is

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 2>a real thing. This could actually set us up to

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>do as a career. And so it does just take

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>time and anyone wanting to do what we do. Specifically, yeah,

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>get a camera or your phone, start to record as

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>much as you can, start to figure out what captivates

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>people like to tell a story, and then just post, post, post,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>post post post, do it every single day for two

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 2>years and where you will be into. Like, guys, when

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you first started the podcast, I bet you were like,

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>we have no idea, what is going on right now?

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>This is crazy, this is scary, And now you're so

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>confident with it and it feels normal to you, guys,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>But it takes time.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you, guys. So you said

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you got engaged in Turkey. Are you married yet?

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 3>No? Okay, we planned our.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 5>Wedding in twenty eighteen, which is five years ago, and

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 5>we were going to get married in June twenty twenty

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 5>in Bali. We'd organized everything, everyone had booked flights at

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 5>my wedding dress and everything was organized. And then in

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 5>mid March COVID hit Obviously no one could travel anymore.

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 3>We had to cancel the entire wedding, and we were thinking,

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>we actually were thinking to do a.

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 5>Little wedding in Greece in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty.

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>One, twenty twenty one, I think, but.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 5>Then COVID had like another spike, so we canceled it again.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 5>And now we're getting it this year, this year in Bali.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 3>And no we haven't mentioned.

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>We're getting married in August in Bali. And this is

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a stupid but we're we're going to

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>have the ceremony and at our own place, at our

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>own boutique hotel, which is like really cool. So we're

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>planning out how that's going to work.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty crazy.

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Amazing, Gras, that's so awesome. I'm so happy that you

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>guys finally get to tie the KNA. That's awful that

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you've had to cancel two weddings.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>It's been a roller coaster, and that's like what you

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>were saying. It looks perfect on the outside, but having

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 2>to do that twice, it's like a real life it's

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>a movie, the ups and downs, the roller coasters. But

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>in the end, hopefully the wedding will be magical and

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>it can kind of seal the notot on this fairy

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>tale that we've been living for the last six years.

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 5>But I have to be honest, I'm not really excited

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 5>about planning the wedding neither.

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, if you've planned it twice before, I'm sure you're

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 4>going to have it down part you know exactly.

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 5>Not to do.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it might even put more pressure on it, you know.

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Now it's like we've had so much time to plan

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>it needs.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>To be but yeah, this is your third wedding essentially. Yeah.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Leaning we're just happy that it's finally going to happen,

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and it feels more organic now because we've lived in

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Bali for three years now and we were going to

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>have it in Bali in twenty twenty, and I don't

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>think we really understood how everything worked there. We didn't

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>have a team, we didn't really know who to trust,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and so now we have our own places we've got

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>businesses there, we've got a community there. We feel much

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>more comfortable now that the whole operation of it will

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>be awesome because we've been there for three years.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm so a bit borried because half of the whole

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 5>family hasn't been to the island and I'm like, oh

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 5>my god, I hope it's going to be and.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Our family's never met before as well.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank gosh, it's going to be super exciting. Hopefully

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't get Bali Bali. I've got couple of times

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>during a wedding.

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Great.

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I got Bali belly last time as well, and that's

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy for me because my gut is pretty good and

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>we've lived in Bali for a while. But last time

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>going back, everyone got hit. So I'm sure some people

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>in our family will get it. Just got to get

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the charcoal tablets. Put those down and then six hours,

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 2>eight hours you should be good.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, charcoal tablets. That's a good little tip for anyone

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>going to Bali. Is it parts of your I guess

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>relationship that you keep private, like certain things that are

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>going on, or are you kind of like very transparent

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>with everything.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I think we're pretty open. It's more like

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the intricacies of how we worked together. I think Marie

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and I are seeing a therapist at the moment, actually

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>like a couple's therapists, because it was one of those

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>things we listened to so many podcasts. Everyone says, you

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>go to the gym for your body, why don't you

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>see a therapist for your mind, so that you can

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>control how you think and how you act. And so

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we started seeing a couple therapists and then she really

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>like dug deep into why we are the way we

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>are in some respects, and.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 5>It's really interesting because some things you don't even notice

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>until she points them up.

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And so we are doing that at the moment.

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>We only started it a few months ago, and we're

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 2>really looking forward to actually sharing that because I think

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>it will help people. I have a real issue with control,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>and if I'm not in control of something, I have

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>this inner fear of it not turning out the way

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I want. And so then I was kind of in

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the beginning controlling all of the decisions, and then Marie

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>has this fear of loss, and we're trying to figure

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>out exactly how to handle those things, and we're excited

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to share more about that.

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's super interesting and a lot of times when

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 5>you communicate with each other, it's like you never have

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 5>someone who can truly tell you why you feel the

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 5>way you feel or what.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Has caused certain trades your house, and then.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 2>When you fired, you definitely don't. You're not your best

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>self in those moments, so you're not communicating clearly about

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 2>why you feel a certain way.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we don't have like a business coo in

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 5>between us, so she's like, really everything, like it's great, Yeah.

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think we do. We're pretty open about almost everything.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>We've written a lot of captures in the past about

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>experiences we've had. I think mainly the only thing that

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people probably wouldn't know the full detail

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>of is exactly how we work together and how that

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 2>has changed over the years because now Marie is mostly

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 2>doing the Instagram. I kind of a bout out of that.

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>At one point I started to just feel, like, like

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I told you before, negative about it, and I didn't

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>like the way it was, you know, harming Marie and

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>how she was getting caught up in it. So I said,

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want to be involved in this anymore.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>And then we realized pretty recently that it's not about

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.439
<v Speaker 2>the Instagram itself that Marie really is passionate about. It's

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 2>like she actually really enjoys creating and sharing and doing that.

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>And so I got that mixed up with she's just

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 2>doing it for the likes or whatever, or we don't

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>need this anymore because we've got enough money, we've got

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>enough businesses. And I was always thinking about what's the outcome?

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Why am I I'm not going to do this if

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 2>there's no outcome, And I think that's a male thing,

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but we're always like ready to do the work if

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a reward at the end of it or there's

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>a specific outcome that we're aware of, whereas Marie is

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 2>so that I just want to do it because I

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 2>like it. It's a journey. I could do it every day

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of my life. And that kind of

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>getting that clear on both of our sides was like

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I have to support Marie every day that because that's

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 2>who she is, that's what she likes. And then Marie

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>has to understand that I need some kind of guidance.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I need to know what the plan is, why are

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>we shooting this, what reels do we have this week

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>and have a structure around that and not just rock

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>up at a place and be like, Okay, what are

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>we going to create pressures on us? I have got

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 2>nothing to post tonight, and then what Isid's ideas do

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you have? And I'll be like nothing, I've got nothing,

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>and then Marie will then, you know, get upset because

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>now she's under pressure because she has to post something.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 2>And so this is something that we're really working on

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and just trying to get back to the point where

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 2>it's really fun just to create, just just enjoy that

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>creation and not put too much pressure on how well

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 2>it does or Yeah. I think.

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 5>I think like the first few years of US was

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 5>like pure growth, like growing the community and everything.

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Then it was how do I do businesses?

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 5>Setting up the businesses, And now the businesses are running

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 5>and we have teams around it and stuff, and now

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 5>it's like, I think this year we just want to

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 5>improve ourselves as well, and like find a place where

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 5>we feel like we can settle a.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Bit and get a bit out of the growth.

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and find a balance that is kind of smooth,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>not like let's go crazy right now and doing this

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like it becomes more of like our daily a habit,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>like Okay, this is the photo that we're going to

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>create today, or the posts that we're going to create.

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And for me, it's like I'm going to go to

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>my gym because that's what makes me happy. Marie is

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>going to do her creating because that makes her happy.

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 2>And understanding each other and supporting each other and what

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 2>we like so that we can be better for each other,

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 2>because in the beginning it was just all in both

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 2>of us going crazy. You're forgetting about everything else, just

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 2>constant post post post post posts.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for sharing those intricacies, because I just

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>think like when people see social media, it's very like

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>black and white. They don't see like the many layers

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of what it takes to create. And you know, being

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a creator, there's yeah, there's so many different levels of

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>things that you have to think about and do, and

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's very full lot. It's exhausted.

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 4>It's a full time Yeah, people forget it's a full

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 4>time job. And yeah, do you.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Guys think that once you get married that you want

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to potentially expand your family?

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 5>We absolutely love kids, and I think, yeah, I mentioned

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 5>it in the beginning of Decks like, I don't even

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 5>know if I need a kid, because sometimes he feels

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 5>like it's just like a natural next step that people do,

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 5>and it's like you don't even think about it.

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Is this actually something that I want in my.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 5>Life or is it just to feel, you know, like

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 5>get the next step, you get married, get the house,

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 5>and then you have kids. But yeah, we truly love kids.

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 5>Some of our close friends now have kids and we

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 5>just yeah, we just love it.

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 3>So definitely at one point I.

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Had a big change of opinion just recently because my brother,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>my younger brother, had a kid and he now the

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>boy Kelly, his name is. He's five months old. And

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>when my brother went through the whole process and the

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Kelly was born, and I met Kelly, and like, I

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 2>felt like this is my blood. This is I felt

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>when friends and that have kids, I was always like, yeah,

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, good for you, awesome. But then when it

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>was like my brother's kid, I was like, WHOA, Like

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>this is different, Like this feels like a part of me.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.240
<v Speaker 2>And my brother went through it and did an amazing

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 2>job with his partner and they just became awesome parents.

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Just like this just adapted. That kind of made me

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>not scared of the of it anymore, because before I

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like, I don't know, am I are

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>we going to be good at this? What's it going

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>to be like for the rest of our work and

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>our life and all of that. But now seeing how

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 2>how my brother adapted to it, now I'm really just

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>not afraid. And Marie and I both talked about it

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 2>is it is something we definitely would love to do.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>There's so many cool experiences we would love to give them,

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and another something that would also bring us even closer.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, we definitely I would say we definitely will

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>expand for sure. If we can't.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Explain you guys would be awesome parents. Would you even

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Bali with kids if you had kids?

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 5>I think the way I picture it right now we've

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 5>talked about it, we would definitely have two bases, so

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 5>probably one in Europe and one over here, like let's

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 5>say Bali and go in between. We meet actually quite

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 5>a lot of young families and learn so much about

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 5>how it can happen nowadays to not be in one location.

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 5>So people tell us about online work. We recently did

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 5>an interview in Bali weheb. We did an interview with

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 5>a girl who used to be a teacher, and she said,

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 5>I calculated the time that kids actually learn in school,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 5>and if they go to school from morning until after lunch,

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 5>it's just one and a half hours of actual learning time.

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 5>And now I'm doing which our kids do online learning.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 5>They're so productive and then they can go and do

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 5>their surf lessons or meet their friends at the skateboard

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 5>park or whatever.

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 3>So I think we're definitely going to.

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 5>Be a bit more like kind of new parents, trying

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 5>out different things, but not be stuck in one place.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 3>So BALI and maybe I don't know, somewhere you're I

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 3>could imagine.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like the yeah, when we do have kids,

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>they will kind of maybe have to adapt to our

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>lifestyle and we're just going to have to figure it

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>out as we go and see how it feels like.

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Meeting families with young kids that travel.

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.280
<v Speaker 5>You could just see how open minded those kids are,

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 5>and I think it can be great obviously, probably also challenging,

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 5>but very challenging.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't know if you guys know this about me,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but I actually grew up traveling around the world with

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>my family and I turned out okay.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 7>So I mean, wow, who's charging okay, guys, thank you

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 7>so much for coming on our podcast.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a pleasure just getting to know you guys.

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being so open with us, and we're

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>so excited for your wedding in August. So excited to

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>see that all unfold on socials. Thank you for sharing

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>your life on socials with us and we can't wait

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you soon.

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 4>Thanks, guys, Thank you so much.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having us guys. It was awesome.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 5>Thank you.