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Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy

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Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is.

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Speaker 2: About female empowerment and encouraging you to be your biggest,

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Speaker 2: boldest and most authentic version of yourself.

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Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone

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Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, You're welcome back to She Rises with acshally

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Speaker 1: in Tiana. We have a very special guest today. It's

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Speaker 1: my nature Path.

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Speaker 3: So excited.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hash.

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Speaker 1: Thank you a little bit about yourself. Are you from?

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Speaker 1: How did you get into the work that you're doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I am living in northern New South Wales,

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Speaker 3: just out of the Gold Coast. I have a fully

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Speaker 3: online clinic. I predominantly treat women. I just find we

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Speaker 3: are so fascinating. We have such an intricate kind of

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Speaker 3: hormonal cascade that occurs so deep. Diving into a woman's

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Speaker 3: body is so I don't discriminate it. Do treat men?

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Speaker 1: Yes, say you're treating Steve at the moment, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: More in a capacity I treat men with when it

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Speaker 3: comes to fertility, because you know, they're fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: the conception of journey, and a lot of emphasis is

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Speaker 3: put on the female, right, the male is often forgotten.

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Speaker 3: So I do treat the male in that sense quite

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Speaker 3: a bit, and children as well. I love treating women

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Speaker 3: just because, Yeah, we're so fascinating. And I guess my

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Speaker 3: journey into nootropathy started through my own health struggles, and

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Speaker 3: I guess this is like a lot of netchpaths actually

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Speaker 3: I speak to I had kind of persistent gut issues

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Speaker 3: and some fertility issues myself and worked with a natch

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Speaker 3: path and just had such great results. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I want to do that. Ye. Yeah, so I started

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Speaker 3: my journey into neutropathy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then I had two kids throughout my degree and

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Speaker 3: that really opened my eyes to fertility and that space.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so interesting.

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Speaker 2: That must be so rewarding as well going on your

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Speaker 2: own journey of that and then being like, Wow, I

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Speaker 2: know how to help these women through this because you've

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Speaker 2: gone through similar struggles. Is there a common theme that

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Speaker 2: you see that women struggle with on this journey, like

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Speaker 2: when they come to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I suppose I see a lot of women

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Speaker 3: come to me and they are highly stressed. And often

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Speaker 3: You know, psychological stresses, things like the mental load of working,

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Speaker 3: it's environmental stress, so things like toxins, cleaning products, pesticides

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Speaker 3: and food consumption, are you consuming enough for your energy output?

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Speaker 3: Are you eating before you exercise in the morning, Because women,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now ya, and I've bring both of us with banana,

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Speaker 3: So ultimately, all of those stresses combined can throw out

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Speaker 3: your skin health and so many other aspects. But typically

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Speaker 3: when I question a woman, it's like, how do you

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Speaker 1: He is saying otherwise, which has been my experience, Like

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Speaker 1: I mean I did come to you for some help

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Speaker 1: which we said this on a TikTok video, which I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So for you, actually we got some of your

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Speaker 2: I never knew that until you told me that, And

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I've never heard anybody say that before, And.

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Speaker 1: Even now, it's just so cool to actually understand what's

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty good most days, but my body was

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, because with you, actually we were seeing not

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting as well, because it's one thing to

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Speaker 2: we're mentally resilient, right, we're like used to it. Get

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Speaker 1: But then it's like you work for me, Yeah, your

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And when we're stressed, we're burning through nutrients something crazy.

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Speaker 3: And magnesium is a big one, so we can be

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh, even that is such a cool

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, it's just crazy. The reason we want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So I'll kind of explain the vaginal microbiome.

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Speaker 3: So if people are getting thrush every month due to

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love this conversation. I love this conversation because

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Speaker 1: how do you treat that? Can you do that through natural?

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Speaker 1: Is it like creams? Is it herbal tonics?

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Speaker 3: So there's like herbs and nutrients that we used to

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Speaker 1: do I prevent it? And then if she does get it,

433
00:20:56,921 --> 00:20:58,321
Speaker 1: how I help treat her?

434
00:20:58,761 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I guess with little girls, Yeah, it's tricky

435
00:21:02,321 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: because hygiene and stuff like at school and stuff. I

436
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,881
Speaker 3: know that my daughter comes home sometimes and it's like, oh,

437
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,281
Speaker 3: it hasn't wiped properly. Yeah, straight in the bath kind of,

438
00:21:12,281 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 3: they like soak everything, get out of those clothes. But

439
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,401
Speaker 3: little girls vaginas are actually quite different to women with yeah,

440
00:21:20,481 --> 00:21:24,721
Speaker 3: because when they're little, we have like a very diverse

441
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: range of bacteria and this means we're not getting like

442
00:21:27,481 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: discharge and things. And it's not until a girl hits

443
00:21:30,681 --> 00:21:33,761
Speaker 3: puberty when we're seeing the increase in estrogen that wakes

444
00:21:33,801 --> 00:21:34,401
Speaker 3: everything up.

445
00:21:34,481 --> 00:21:36,321
Speaker 1: So it's not likely they'll get UTIs.

446
00:21:36,721 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 3: It can occur, and it's normally like the holding in

447
00:21:40,481 --> 00:21:43,321
Speaker 3: wi or not not excreting it properly, and it can

448
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,281
Speaker 3: kind of fister in there if they've got a little

449
00:21:45,281 --> 00:21:48,401
Speaker 3: bit left in there. There's hygiene things, you know, wiping

450
00:21:48,441 --> 00:21:51,281
Speaker 3: back to front, getting the collie in there. But yeah,

451
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,721
Speaker 3: it can be tricky to treat little ones. And they're

452
00:21:54,761 --> 00:21:58,561
Speaker 3: also prone to you know, vaginal irritation and things as well,

453
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 3: so barrier creams and stuff can be really beneficial. Yeah, Okay,

454
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,841
Speaker 3: if little girls also have itchy areas, while it can

455
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,321
Speaker 3: also be due to pinworm, so pinworm's common in kids.

456
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: If kids have got itchy bums, it's likely they've got pinworms.

457
00:22:15,001 --> 00:22:19,441
Speaker 3: They can travel to a little girl's vagina. Oh yeah,

458
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,761
Speaker 3: so it's really common in like daycare schools because kids

459
00:22:22,761 --> 00:22:26,161
Speaker 3: are touching everything and touching their faces.

460
00:22:25,721 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it's really I've never heard of this.

461
00:22:29,441 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: Have you needed to give your kids like the chocolates?

462
00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:35,481
Speaker 1: I do do that. So that's is that pinworms?

463
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 3: Right?

464
00:22:36,961 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, My mum's always just giving me those little chocolates.

465
00:22:38,921 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: So I give it to my kids like every school holidays,

466
00:22:41,001 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: little little squares. Yeah, yeah, get paranoid.

467
00:22:43,761 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: Overdo it because you don't want their body to build

468
00:22:46,441 --> 00:22:50,201
Speaker 3: up resistance to their medication. Do it if they've got

469
00:22:50,241 --> 00:22:54,281
Speaker 3: symptoms of like genus and whatnot. Okay, And then also

470
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,561
Speaker 3: it can be quite tricky to treat in little ones

471
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: because the pinworms lay eggs in your house. Gross, wash

472
00:23:01,721 --> 00:23:04,321
Speaker 3: all your sheets and I would even go in with

473
00:23:04,481 --> 00:23:07,481
Speaker 3: like tonic for the little ones. Therese herbs that aren't

474
00:23:07,481 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: as bad as the ones that you based and like

475
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: a more sugary content. Yeah, so for little kids are

476
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:16,801
Speaker 3: really great.

477
00:23:16,801 --> 00:23:18,321
Speaker 1: Oh that's good to know. It might be good for you.

478
00:23:18,481 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: I know.

479
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,441
Speaker 1: I made me a sleep tonic and Oh wow. If

480
00:23:22,441 --> 00:23:24,201
Speaker 1: you follow my snapchat, you would have seen the drama

481
00:23:24,281 --> 00:23:26,241
Speaker 1: of me trying to sollow it. Oh I missed the

482
00:23:26,521 --> 00:23:31,561
Speaker 1: oh snapchat, I'm like sobraught and unfiltered. I was it

483
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,561
Speaker 1: was funny, so funny. Bamboo underwear, Can we talk about

484
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: that because it makes all the difference. I'm trying to

485
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: let her covert her. Yes, they're more expensive, but can

486
00:23:40,681 --> 00:23:42,961
Speaker 1: you talk about why this is so important?

487
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,521
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we we are down there is important

488
00:23:45,561 --> 00:23:49,521
Speaker 3: because it ensures like how it breathes down there. Yeah,

489
00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: so bamboo, organic bamboo, for instance, is really moisture wicking,

490
00:23:53,281 --> 00:23:56,321
Speaker 3: so it draws out any moisture from the area we are.

491
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,721
Speaker 3: Synthetic fabrics kind of leave that moisture in there, and.

492
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,481
Speaker 1: It creates a breeding ground for infection.

493
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 3: Hey yeah, yeah, organic bamboo and organic are really great

494
00:24:06,321 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: options to wear down there, and they also again hold

495
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: an energitic kind of frequency of like a really grounding

496
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,321
Speaker 3: feeling versus your synthetic fabrics. Like you know when you

497
00:24:17,321 --> 00:24:20,281
Speaker 3: look at physics, everything has energy for right, Yeah, so

498
00:24:20,681 --> 00:24:23,401
Speaker 3: it's good in a sense of like, yeah, being antibacterial

499
00:24:23,481 --> 00:24:26,961
Speaker 3: into microbial moisture wicking beneficial if you're going to be

500
00:24:26,961 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: wearing like gym types. Yeah that synthetical and synthetic and types.

501
00:24:30,561 --> 00:24:34,321
Speaker 1: Can't breathe, Yeah, breeze. The week that I didn't wear bamboo, honestly,

502
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: like this Snday after work, I just I don't feel

503
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: as fresh. I felt like I just need to go

504
00:24:38,241 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: home and shouts. It sounds gross. But when I wear bamboo,

505
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,961
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just gonna out of shower. I

506
00:24:42,001 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: feel fresh all day, and that's what we want. Yeah

507
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,321
Speaker 1: fresh ye never anything off like, it just feels fresh.

508
00:24:49,561 --> 00:24:53,041
Speaker 1: I just can't not wear them now. Yeah, so important.

509
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I've got some girlfriends that they have

510
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: an infection every other month, and then there's someone like

511
00:24:57,721 --> 00:24:59,681
Speaker 1: me who has two and a whole thirty six years

512
00:24:59,681 --> 00:25:01,801
Speaker 1: of living. Do you think some women are just more

513
00:25:01,801 --> 00:25:04,041
Speaker 1: prone to getting infections? Does it relate back to your

514
00:25:04,041 --> 00:25:05,721
Speaker 1: gut health or Yeah.

515
00:25:05,561 --> 00:25:07,761
Speaker 3: It can relate back to a lot of things, like

516
00:25:07,801 --> 00:25:10,921
Speaker 3: your immune system, your gut health. And you know your

517
00:25:10,921 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 3: immune system about seventy percent lives within your gut healthy

518
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: or gut health. You've got poor immune system, right, and

519
00:25:17,321 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: then throwing hormonal imbalances that are going to drive these conditions.

520
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,041
Speaker 3: Say if you're also prone to sicknesses because you've got

521
00:25:24,041 --> 00:25:27,321
Speaker 3: this low immunity. Yeah, taking ittibiotics, and that's why I think.

522
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,801
Speaker 1: It's a flow on a cycle.

523
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. But yeah, like you said, it's a flow on

524
00:25:31,481 --> 00:25:33,521
Speaker 3: effect and we can go around in these big loops

525
00:25:33,761 --> 00:25:35,921
Speaker 3: consistently of heavy issues.

526
00:25:36,961 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: And then what about different types of discharge? Once again,

527
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,481
Speaker 1: I wish this was spoke about in school, and I

528
00:25:41,561 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: still I am super educated around it. But different times

529
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,161
Speaker 1: in our cycle, there's going to be different types of discharge. Hey,

530
00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:49,721
Speaker 1: so what do we look out for, what's normal not normal?

531
00:25:49,961 --> 00:25:52,081
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I definitely wish that we will talk more

532
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: in school about this. Actually, looking back, the vaginal microbomes

533
00:25:55,481 --> 00:25:58,321
Speaker 3: only really been studied in the last twenty years, so

534
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,001
Speaker 3: at school they didn't really know much about it at all. Yeah,

535
00:26:02,521 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: I should have known more about our cycles and you know,

536
00:26:05,721 --> 00:26:09,961
Speaker 3: the changes in mucus or discharge. And so we have

537
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: like two main phases of our minstrual cycle. The first

538
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,561
Speaker 3: half is our follicular phase and then the second half

539
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,881
Speaker 3: is our luteal phase. So at the start when we

540
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,241
Speaker 3: are bleeding is right at the start of a follicular phase,

541
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,441
Speaker 3: and this is when a hormones are at the lowest

542
00:26:24,561 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: and this is when bleeding occurs, so we're not necessarily

543
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: going to see discharge at this point. We're going to

544
00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: see blood. And it's okay to have like a metalloche

545
00:26:32,681 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: kind of smell down there when we've got the blood loss,

546
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,241
Speaker 3: because that's the smell of the blood. And then as

547
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: we move through to after period, it can still be

548
00:26:40,041 --> 00:26:42,001
Speaker 3: a little bit dry just after your period, or a

549
00:26:42,041 --> 00:26:47,481
Speaker 3: little bit tacky. And then we move into the preovulatory.

550
00:26:46,321 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Phase, best age of the month, high energy, feel great, Yeah,

551
00:26:52,481 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: We've talking about this lot lately.

552
00:26:54,441 --> 00:26:58,321
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we can see a more creamier consistency, almost

553
00:26:58,441 --> 00:27:02,001
Speaker 3: like lotion like. And then as you move into ovulation,

554
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:06,361
Speaker 3: we want to see that clear, stretchy, real healthy cervical

555
00:27:06,441 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: mucus and this is what protects sperm and this is

556
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,321
Speaker 3: going to increase your chances of conception.

557
00:27:12,681 --> 00:27:12,921
Speaker 2: Wow.

558
00:27:13,001 --> 00:27:16,281
Speaker 3: So if you don't have this beautiful, stretchy, clear cervical mucus,

559
00:27:16,281 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: it's going to be way harder for the sperm to

560
00:27:18,001 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: survive and they're probably going to be killed off in

561
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,241
Speaker 3: eur acidic vaginal environment. Woo. Yeah. And then as we

562
00:27:25,321 --> 00:27:29,281
Speaker 3: move into the next phase, which is just after population,

563
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:34,121
Speaker 3: so postovulation, we can see tachi cloudy, maybe even a

564
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: slight yellow tinge, and then after that it can be

565
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: kind of tachy cloudy before we move back into menstruation again.

566
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,801
Speaker 3: And it's kind of understanding your body and what's your

567
00:27:46,001 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: normal each month because everyone is going to kind of

568
00:27:48,761 --> 00:27:54,241
Speaker 3: different yeah, and then noticing changes in those components each month.

569
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: So say, if you lack that cervical mucus, it could

570
00:27:57,921 --> 00:27:59,801
Speaker 3: be a sign of a hormonal imbalance, but it could

571
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,601
Speaker 3: be a sign of an underlying vaginal in fiction, that's

572
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:06,961
Speaker 3: kind of asymptomatic, just lacking that beautiful cervical mucus. So

573
00:28:07,041 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: BV can do that. If you have that one that

574
00:28:09,481 --> 00:28:12,121
Speaker 3: the pathogen that creates the fishy smell, maybe you've got

575
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,361
Speaker 3: the other pathogens that are actually drying up that cervical mucus.

576
00:28:16,001 --> 00:28:17,321
Speaker 1: You go yeah.

577
00:28:17,441 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: And then obviously as we move through different phases of

578
00:28:20,201 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: our life, moving into puberty, we're seeing that's when the

579
00:28:24,801 --> 00:28:28,401
Speaker 3: discharge in cervical mucus kind of starts. Then when we

580
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: move into pregnancy, we can see a lot of changes

581
00:28:31,441 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: to our civical mucus. It can be a lot more

582
00:28:33,561 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 3: because we've got hormonal shifts postpardum, we can see huge

583
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,601
Speaker 3: shifts and like I mentioned, that's when I got BV

584
00:28:40,121 --> 00:28:44,041
Speaker 3: because of these hormonal shifts and being more susceptible to infections.

585
00:28:44,801 --> 00:28:47,681
Speaker 3: We can almost see when women breastfeed too. They can

586
00:28:47,761 --> 00:28:51,641
Speaker 3: almost have the ning of the vaginal tissues irritation due

587
00:28:51,681 --> 00:28:54,561
Speaker 3: to low estrogen when you're breastfeeding, and then as a

588
00:28:54,601 --> 00:28:57,001
Speaker 3: flow and effect not enough like to pacillous and not

589
00:28:57,201 --> 00:29:00,801
Speaker 3: acidic enough. And then we have the same kind of

590
00:29:00,881 --> 00:29:04,281
Speaker 3: thing happen as we move into perimenopause and menopause is

591
00:29:04,441 --> 00:29:07,681
Speaker 3: estrogen drop. We see a decrease in electo piscillus in

592
00:29:08,081 --> 00:29:11,441
Speaker 3: the vagina become more dry typically and more uncomfortable.

593
00:29:11,561 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, out of curiosity without let's say, if somebody

594
00:29:15,561 --> 00:29:17,601
Speaker 2: wasn't to go get tested or wasn't able to go

595
00:29:17,681 --> 00:29:19,801
Speaker 2: down that path right now, is there something just as

596
00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:22,521
Speaker 2: like any supplements or anything like that for vaginal health

597
00:29:22,521 --> 00:29:24,761
Speaker 2: that you would recommend, just as like a baseline to

598
00:29:24,841 --> 00:29:27,561
Speaker 2: take for like a you should absolutely be taking this,

599
00:29:27,681 --> 00:29:28,521
Speaker 2: like eating pineapple?

600
00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:28,721
Speaker 3: Is that?

601
00:29:30,681 --> 00:29:32,641
Speaker 1: Or cranberry? Yeah?

602
00:29:32,721 --> 00:29:35,201
Speaker 3: Or cranberry is actually really good for UTIs.

603
00:29:34,881 --> 00:29:36,961
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that, Should I cranbery juice.

604
00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:38,401
Speaker 3: Yep or like cranber capsules.

605
00:29:38,601 --> 00:29:39,001
Speaker 1: Yeah.

606
00:29:39,561 --> 00:29:43,041
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky because each case is different for sure.

607
00:29:43,561 --> 00:29:45,681
Speaker 1: It's not a one size fits all. Yeah.

608
00:29:45,721 --> 00:29:48,761
Speaker 3: But if you are opting to go and get like

609
00:29:48,801 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: antibiotics to treat bv for instance, definitely repopulating the area

610
00:29:53,521 --> 00:29:56,681
Speaker 3: with beneficial bacteria, and I would do that vias to

611
00:29:56,761 --> 00:29:58,201
Speaker 3: pository like putting it up there.

612
00:29:58,361 --> 00:29:58,641
Speaker 2: Yeah.

613
00:29:58,681 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: So there's a really incredible, relatively new supplement that is

614
00:30:03,121 --> 00:30:07,801
Speaker 3: specifically for that, and it called Amelia V spot probotic,

615
00:30:08,441 --> 00:30:11,081
Speaker 3: and you put it up there to support that beneficial

616
00:30:11,121 --> 00:30:15,001
Speaker 3: growth of bacteria. But in saying that, also looking at

617
00:30:15,361 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: all of your environmental factors and triggers and things like

618
00:30:18,281 --> 00:30:22,241
Speaker 3: we said the bamboo underwear also diet. We want to

619
00:30:22,281 --> 00:30:27,801
Speaker 3: be eating enough fiber to feed the beneficial beneficial bacteria.

620
00:30:26,801 --> 00:30:29,281
Speaker 1: Not being an active wear all day every day. Yeah,

621
00:30:29,401 --> 00:30:33,681
Speaker 1: if you can clothing morning sweat show, changing out of gin.

622
00:30:34,121 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you're prone to them, really looking at

623
00:30:36,241 --> 00:30:39,681
Speaker 3: the triggers. But I feel like if you are getting

624
00:30:39,801 --> 00:30:43,121
Speaker 3: really recurrent bouts of vaginal and fictions, it would be

625
00:30:43,161 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: really important to test, not guess. If you have the

626
00:30:48,081 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: means to purchase a test, they are relatively expensive at

627
00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:56,161
Speaker 3: about two hundred and thirty dollars for memory, but you're

628
00:30:56,201 --> 00:30:58,961
Speaker 3: actually saving yourself in the long run, right with being

629
00:30:59,001 --> 00:31:01,761
Speaker 3: able to treat specifically and not go back and forth

630
00:31:01,841 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: with all these band aid.

631
00:31:04,041 --> 00:31:06,041
Speaker 2: You're sure and feeling comfortable when you're having sex with

632
00:31:06,081 --> 00:31:08,761
Speaker 2: your partner, not having to worry, not feeling self conscious,

633
00:31:08,841 --> 00:31:10,561
Speaker 2: but not going oh my god, like is.

634
00:31:10,521 --> 00:31:11,241
Speaker 1: There going to be a scent.

635
00:31:11,401 --> 00:31:14,601
Speaker 3: You can also teste your pH of your vagina. There's

636
00:31:15,161 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: strips so you can test the environment down there. So

637
00:31:18,521 --> 00:31:21,841
Speaker 3: your vaginal p H should sit between about three point

638
00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:24,721
Speaker 3: five and four point five, so if it is out,

639
00:31:24,761 --> 00:31:27,001
Speaker 3: if it's too high, it's going to be too alkalizing.

640
00:31:27,081 --> 00:31:29,561
Speaker 3: So that's an environment where pathogens can thrive. So you

641
00:31:29,601 --> 00:31:33,201
Speaker 3: want to make that more acidic flight increasing those beneficial bacteria.

642
00:31:33,361 --> 00:31:35,121
Speaker 1: What do you mean a stick? Like, how do you

643
00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:36,161
Speaker 1: put a stick up there?

644
00:31:36,161 --> 00:31:38,681
Speaker 3: It is it's just like a tiny little like paper

645
00:31:39,001 --> 00:31:42,561
Speaker 3: kind of stick that you kind of just white on. Oh,

646
00:31:42,761 --> 00:31:46,361
Speaker 3: I say, China, or like the cervical mucus around that area. Yeah,

647
00:31:46,361 --> 00:31:49,161
Speaker 3: And I would suggest doing it when you're symptomatic. If

648
00:31:49,201 --> 00:31:51,601
Speaker 3: you are someone that has symptoms, and then you can

649
00:31:51,681 --> 00:31:55,441
Speaker 3: kind of gauge what's going to be interesting.

650
00:31:55,561 --> 00:31:57,841
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we talk about sex too.

651
00:32:00,321 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: Then?

652
00:32:00,521 --> 00:32:03,401
Speaker 1: Too much sex upset your vagina?

653
00:32:04,161 --> 00:32:08,281
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can. But if we have that really robust environment,

654
00:32:08,881 --> 00:32:12,401
Speaker 3: then we should be able to combat the likes of semen.

655
00:32:12,721 --> 00:32:16,041
Speaker 3: That's going to make that environment alkalizing. If that environment

656
00:32:16,121 --> 00:32:18,521
Speaker 3: is slightly out, when we've got that underlying BV and

657
00:32:18,521 --> 00:32:19,961
Speaker 3: we get that semen in there and it's going to

658
00:32:20,001 --> 00:32:24,041
Speaker 3: exacerbate the growth, is when it can irritate the vagina.

659
00:32:24,081 --> 00:32:26,921
Speaker 3: Of course, like friction and stuff differently can make micro

660
00:32:27,001 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: tears and stuff as well. But if you do have

661
00:32:29,521 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: that robust environment, you should be okay. There's also some

662
00:32:32,801 --> 00:32:36,641
Speaker 3: really great like pH friendly washes that you can use

663
00:32:37,041 --> 00:32:40,161
Speaker 3: after having sex. You definitely don't want to put soaps

664
00:32:40,201 --> 00:32:43,361
Speaker 3: up there and error chemicals and stuff because it's self cleaning.

665
00:32:43,721 --> 00:32:45,881
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you can put anything there. Like, do

666
00:32:45,961 --> 00:32:47,081
Speaker 1: you have brands you recommend?

667
00:32:47,401 --> 00:32:49,641
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one brand that I really like. It's called

668
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: color Rex. It'slre X and they have a wash and

669
00:32:54,481 --> 00:32:57,321
Speaker 3: a cream. So if you're someone that's having a lot

670
00:32:57,401 --> 00:32:59,161
Speaker 3: of six, that could be a great option to just

671
00:32:59,241 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: kind of like wash down there after six to make

672
00:33:01,241 --> 00:33:02,081
Speaker 3: sure everything's out.

673
00:33:02,161 --> 00:33:04,921
Speaker 1: Always peeing after say do you pee before and after

674
00:33:05,081 --> 00:33:06,881
Speaker 1: what suit? Because I hear different things with that.

675
00:33:07,121 --> 00:33:09,121
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd pee after six. I mean if you need

676
00:33:09,161 --> 00:33:11,681
Speaker 3: to go pry, yeah you want to, yeah, go prior

677
00:33:11,721 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: as well, but yeah, just making sure that you're getting

678
00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:16,441
Speaker 3: everything out of that after having a quick shower. And yeah,

679
00:33:16,721 --> 00:33:18,161
Speaker 3: like laying in that semen.

680
00:33:17,921 --> 00:33:19,841
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, just for back flashbacks and I was

681
00:33:19,841 --> 00:33:21,601
Speaker 1: trying to for bring mental and or literally lay there

682
00:33:21,641 --> 00:33:23,681
Speaker 1: with my legs up in the air like that getting

683
00:33:23,761 --> 00:33:28,841
Speaker 1: me consers. Oh my goodness.

684
00:33:28,201 --> 00:33:28,641
Speaker 3: So good.

685
00:33:28,801 --> 00:33:32,121
Speaker 1: And same with condoms and lubricants, like I'm sure a

686
00:33:32,121 --> 00:33:34,561
Speaker 1: lot of people listening. I don't use condoms personally. We

687
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:36,641
Speaker 1: use like a natural coconut oil based loom and I

688
00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:38,281
Speaker 1: have no problems with that. But the times I have

689
00:33:38,481 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: used flavored lube or you know, fans glube, oh I

690
00:33:42,481 --> 00:33:46,841
Speaker 1: get so irritation tasty, it smells yummy. It's just a

691
00:33:46,921 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: no go for me. So can you talk about.

692
00:33:49,601 --> 00:33:54,161
Speaker 3: Yeah, putting those harsh chemicals, yeah, yeah, disrupting that environment.

693
00:33:54,801 --> 00:33:58,361
Speaker 3: I would definitely opt for yet a natural either water

694
00:33:58,401 --> 00:34:02,321
Speaker 3: based or oil based lubri out. Sometimes if you're vaginal

695
00:34:02,361 --> 00:34:05,521
Speaker 3: microbime isn't quite robust as it should be. Oil based

696
00:34:05,601 --> 00:34:09,201
Speaker 3: lubricants like a coconut oil can also affect it because

697
00:34:09,241 --> 00:34:12,321
Speaker 3: they can almost trap bacteria in that environment and create

698
00:34:12,841 --> 00:34:15,681
Speaker 3: that growth. Yeah, but your typical person should be able

699
00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:18,641
Speaker 3: to deal with that oil based Yeah, mine, I personally

700
00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:21,361
Speaker 3: use a water based one just because I prefer it.

701
00:34:21,361 --> 00:34:23,761
Speaker 3: It's a brand called Yes. But yeah, just being mindful.

702
00:34:23,801 --> 00:34:26,521
Speaker 3: Same with condoms. People can be really sensitive to latex

703
00:34:26,561 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: and fragrances.

704
00:34:27,601 --> 00:34:28,761
Speaker 1: Is there natural condoms?

705
00:34:28,881 --> 00:34:30,681
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are latex free ones. I'm not sure if

706
00:34:30,721 --> 00:34:34,121
Speaker 3: Brandy you know, I'm not someone that uses condoms. Yeah,

707
00:34:34,161 --> 00:34:36,401
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, just being mindful of what you use

708
00:34:36,441 --> 00:34:39,241
Speaker 3: down there is super important because it can create Yeah.

709
00:34:39,761 --> 00:34:40,321
Speaker 1: So interesting.

710
00:34:40,361 --> 00:34:43,481
Speaker 2: Hey, there's so many little factors that can contribute to

711
00:34:43,801 --> 00:34:44,601
Speaker 2: changes down there.

712
00:34:44,921 --> 00:34:46,881
Speaker 1: It's so important to know that that it's not like

713
00:34:46,921 --> 00:34:47,761
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you.

714
00:34:48,241 --> 00:34:51,801
Speaker 2: Nothing is bad unless you're obviously experiencing those UTIs and

715
00:34:51,801 --> 00:34:53,761
Speaker 2: those infections to get them looked at. But it's cool

716
00:34:53,761 --> 00:34:56,401
Speaker 2: to be aware of this so that you can go, Okay, well,

717
00:34:56,441 --> 00:34:58,361
Speaker 2: am I doing all of these things to make sure

718
00:34:58,401 --> 00:34:59,441
Speaker 2: they'm ticking off the list.

719
00:34:59,521 --> 00:35:01,161
Speaker 1: You know, it is so much more sensitive to men

720
00:35:01,201 --> 00:35:03,161
Speaker 1: because I feel like I can't use a flavored lube

721
00:35:03,161 --> 00:35:05,881
Speaker 1: on myself, but like on Steve it's completely and they

722
00:35:05,881 --> 00:35:08,641
Speaker 1: can wash themself with so completely fine, But like women

723
00:35:08,721 --> 00:35:09,401
Speaker 1: just can't do that.

724
00:35:09,601 --> 00:35:13,761
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just intricate. Yeah, I mean they have a

725
00:35:13,801 --> 00:35:17,081
Speaker 3: twenty four hour hormonal cascade while still peaks at a

726
00:35:17,081 --> 00:35:18,801
Speaker 3: certain time every day, and they can do the same

727
00:35:18,841 --> 00:35:22,801
Speaker 3: shit every day, whereas we have that beautiful roughly thirty

728
00:35:22,881 --> 00:35:25,481
Speaker 3: day hormonal cascade and we need to be doing different

729
00:35:25,481 --> 00:35:30,121
Speaker 3: things on different days of cycle. Just yeah, hormonally really sensitive.

730
00:35:30,201 --> 00:35:33,401
Speaker 1: So it's a lot, yeah, is it funny.

731
00:35:34,201 --> 00:35:38,241
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we're talking about supporting a vaginal microbiome as

732
00:35:38,281 --> 00:35:44,561
Speaker 3: a whole, it would be looking at diet increasing fiber intake.

733
00:35:44,881 --> 00:35:47,521
Speaker 1: Fiber is so important. I didn't realize until I met you.

734
00:35:47,881 --> 00:35:51,081
Speaker 1: It is so important hormonal health. But no one talks

735
00:35:51,081 --> 00:35:51,681
Speaker 1: about that.

736
00:35:52,161 --> 00:35:54,401
Speaker 3: No. I think I had a client yesterday actually, and

737
00:35:54,801 --> 00:35:56,481
Speaker 3: I was talking to her about fiber and she's like,

738
00:35:56,521 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: I only thought fiber was just to make you poop,

739
00:35:58,481 --> 00:36:01,321
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's also, yeah, but it's an

740
00:36:01,361 --> 00:36:06,041
Speaker 3: important binder and it binds to exist. Hormones exist, toxins

741
00:36:06,041 --> 00:36:08,401
Speaker 3: in our body and it excretes them out of the stool.

742
00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:10,721
Speaker 1: That in itself is so important why we're not taught.

743
00:36:10,761 --> 00:36:12,441
Speaker 1: That's why I take it every day like that. When

744
00:36:12,481 --> 00:36:13,921
Speaker 1: you said that, I was like, wow, why am I

745
00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:14,441
Speaker 1: that personal?

746
00:36:14,481 --> 00:36:18,641
Speaker 3: So I think the Australian guidelines for fiber intake for

747
00:36:18,761 --> 00:36:22,441
Speaker 3: women are about twenty five grams per day. However, this

748
00:36:22,561 --> 00:36:27,721
Speaker 3: doesn't take into consideration the stresses that we have day women,

749
00:36:28,361 --> 00:36:31,761
Speaker 3: and so I recommend at least thirty five grams of

750
00:36:32,121 --> 00:36:35,721
Speaker 3: fiber per day to support, you know, the eradication of

751
00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:38,721
Speaker 3: these toxins because we're exposed to so many on a

752
00:36:38,801 --> 00:36:39,761
Speaker 3: day to day basis.

753
00:36:39,921 --> 00:36:42,161
Speaker 2: And would this be something that like you're okay with

754
00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:44,281
Speaker 2: like a fiber supplement or is this predominantly something you

755
00:36:44,281 --> 00:36:46,001
Speaker 2: would prefer that women get through food.

756
00:36:46,241 --> 00:36:49,561
Speaker 3: I mean, if they can get it through food, fabulous,

757
00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:51,881
Speaker 3: But a lot of women aren't getting there in their diet.

758
00:36:51,881 --> 00:36:54,201
Speaker 3: I would say ninety percent of women aren't eating enough fiber.

759
00:36:54,521 --> 00:36:56,641
Speaker 3: So I would recommend like a fiber supplement. And there's

760
00:36:56,681 --> 00:36:59,841
Speaker 3: some great options on the market and some are really

761
00:36:59,881 --> 00:37:03,001
Speaker 3: easy to take, Like there's something like PHGG and it's

762
00:37:03,161 --> 00:37:06,441
Speaker 3: a type of fiber and supplement and you can just

763
00:37:06,481 --> 00:37:09,121
Speaker 3: add it to almost anything. It's heat stable, so you

764
00:37:09,121 --> 00:37:10,161
Speaker 3: can put it in your coffee.

765
00:37:10,201 --> 00:37:14,361
Speaker 1: I take one from Nat what's the last name Concreases

766
00:37:14,641 --> 00:37:17,481
Speaker 1: and it's quite it's not bad tape, but it's like

767
00:37:17,561 --> 00:37:22,601
Speaker 1: Sliam hask and Cheer and it's it's like so Good's.

768
00:37:22,081 --> 00:37:25,241
Speaker 3: Got so many different forms of fiber in it. Yeah. Yeah,

769
00:37:25,361 --> 00:37:28,241
Speaker 3: so supplements great. If you can get it in your diet, great,

770
00:37:28,321 --> 00:37:32,401
Speaker 3: but it is quite hard to hatch that fiber take.

771
00:37:32,361 --> 00:37:35,921
Speaker 1: Sometimes, especially for big meat eaters, which is something Tash

772
00:37:35,961 --> 00:37:38,321
Speaker 1: picked up on Steve and I with both of us

773
00:37:38,361 --> 00:37:41,161
Speaker 1: having our livers needing support is straight up. She was like,

774
00:37:41,481 --> 00:37:43,441
Speaker 1: are you guys eating more of a carnival diet? It's like,

775
00:37:43,561 --> 00:37:45,481
Speaker 1: how did you know? She like looking at both of

776
00:37:45,481 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: your bloods, So both of us are taking a fiber

777
00:37:47,561 --> 00:37:49,441
Speaker 1: supplement now and just feels so much better.

778
00:37:50,121 --> 00:37:53,561
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're binding out those toxins and those hormones

779
00:37:53,561 --> 00:37:56,041
Speaker 3: are not getting excreted back into your body. So as

780
00:37:56,121 --> 00:37:59,721
Speaker 3: you with that increase in estrogen, yeah, body was recirculating

781
00:37:59,721 --> 00:38:01,681
Speaker 3: some of that into the body instead of excreting it

782
00:38:01,681 --> 00:38:04,241
Speaker 3: by the stoor. Yeah, though you can be passing a

783
00:38:04,281 --> 00:38:08,161
Speaker 3: vowel motionile. It's not necessarily that you're reading out all

784
00:38:08,201 --> 00:38:11,121
Speaker 3: the bits and pieces with that because you're not getting

785
00:38:11,121 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: that five.

786
00:38:11,761 --> 00:38:14,161
Speaker 1: Yeah makes so much sense. I feel so much better

787
00:38:14,241 --> 00:38:17,281
Speaker 1: just knowing that. And when you have an understanding like

788
00:38:17,761 --> 00:38:19,561
Speaker 1: that sent me, the product age is going. I take

789
00:38:19,561 --> 00:38:21,601
Speaker 1: it every now and again if I needed to pooh,

790
00:38:22,121 --> 00:38:23,961
Speaker 1: whereas now I'm like, now I understand what it's doing

791
00:38:23,961 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: for my body. I will not miss a day. Yeah,

792
00:38:25,481 --> 00:38:26,881
Speaker 1: Like I just can't miss a day. Are we taking

793
00:38:26,881 --> 00:38:27,561
Speaker 1: it traveling with me?

794
00:38:27,601 --> 00:38:31,521
Speaker 3: It's just so important education component, isn't it? And I

795
00:38:31,561 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: try to educate my clients as much as I can

796
00:38:33,681 --> 00:38:37,361
Speaker 3: during a consult, but it's quite hard sometimes because I'm

797
00:38:37,401 --> 00:38:39,401
Speaker 3: spending like an hour and a half with them taking

798
00:38:39,441 --> 00:38:42,841
Speaker 3: their case and gaining all their relevant information. So for you,

799
00:38:42,921 --> 00:38:45,881
Speaker 3: actually having your bloodstone prior was really beneficial because I

800
00:38:45,881 --> 00:38:47,881
Speaker 3: could gain a lot of knowledge and explain to you

801
00:38:47,881 --> 00:38:50,961
Speaker 3: what's going on within your body during that scision as well. Yeah,

802
00:38:51,001 --> 00:38:53,601
Speaker 3: but sometimes I'm just busy taking so many case notes

803
00:38:53,601 --> 00:38:55,241
Speaker 3: that education piece is really hard.

804
00:38:55,361 --> 00:38:57,761
Speaker 2: And what would you suggest for somebody who is either

805
00:38:57,761 --> 00:38:59,401
Speaker 2: trying to get pregnant or not get pregnant?

806
00:38:59,561 --> 00:39:03,161
Speaker 3: Having a period tracker is really great. But then also

807
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:06,561
Speaker 3: noticing that discharge too, so you're fertile windows when we're

808
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:10,041
Speaker 3: getting that beautiful discharge. Yeah, you can also temperature chart.

809
00:39:10,081 --> 00:39:12,321
Speaker 3: It's a bit tricky because you're having to track your temperature.

810
00:39:12,321 --> 00:39:14,321
Speaker 3: I never did that morning. Yeah, I tried it for

811
00:39:14,361 --> 00:39:17,561
Speaker 3: a while, but yeah, it's very hard, basket, Yeah, very hard.

812
00:39:17,601 --> 00:39:19,721
Speaker 3: In the consistency of doing it every day is tricky.

813
00:39:20,361 --> 00:39:24,881
Speaker 3: But your basal body temperature will peak just after ovulation.

814
00:39:24,921 --> 00:39:27,121
Speaker 3: It will peak, So if you're tracking it and then

815
00:39:27,161 --> 00:39:29,161
Speaker 3: you see that peak, it's like you would have just ovulated.

816
00:39:29,241 --> 00:39:30,721
Speaker 3: So you need to be able to track it for.

817
00:39:30,641 --> 00:39:33,481
Speaker 2: A while now, Yeah, to get like a consistent rhythm

818
00:39:33,481 --> 00:39:34,161
Speaker 2: and understand it.

819
00:39:34,441 --> 00:39:37,961
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you are noticing your cervical mucus and

820
00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:40,321
Speaker 3: then tune with your body when you think you ovulate,

821
00:39:40,401 --> 00:39:42,241
Speaker 3: then you should be able to pick up with an

822
00:39:42,281 --> 00:39:45,201
Speaker 3: app and yeah, understanding what's going on down there.

823
00:39:45,401 --> 00:39:48,641
Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. And I know for a while, I mean,

824
00:39:48,681 --> 00:39:51,081
Speaker 1: you were quite booked out, but when I contacted you,

825
00:39:51,201 --> 00:39:53,321
Speaker 1: lucky I got in and now you're also treating Steve.

826
00:39:53,401 --> 00:39:56,241
Speaker 1: Anyone listening like, oh my gosh, I'd love to see

827
00:39:56,321 --> 00:39:58,241
Speaker 1: it's so cool that it is online, Like do you

828
00:39:58,281 --> 00:40:01,121
Speaker 1: have spaces you obviously run your retreats. How does it work?

829
00:40:01,161 --> 00:40:02,841
Speaker 1: Does someone just message you on Instagram?

830
00:40:02,961 --> 00:40:05,281
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm predominantly on social media. Yeah, get a

831
00:40:05,321 --> 00:40:07,361
Speaker 3: lot of clients there and just word of mouth. So

832
00:40:07,561 --> 00:40:10,841
Speaker 3: I consult like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday typically between school hours

833
00:40:10,841 --> 00:40:13,641
Speaker 3: because I've got a couple of kids. And then if

834
00:40:13,641 --> 00:40:16,001
Speaker 3: you want to learn more about your body, that's when

835
00:40:16,121 --> 00:40:18,081
Speaker 3: retreats could come in handy. Like, of course, I'm going

836
00:40:18,121 --> 00:40:20,521
Speaker 3: to teach you and educate you in our consults, and

837
00:40:20,561 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to explain to you why we're doing something,

838
00:40:22,521 --> 00:40:24,801
Speaker 3: because someone is way more inclined to do something if

839
00:40:24,841 --> 00:40:27,521
Speaker 3: I'm telling them why we're doing a verse. Just take

840
00:40:27,601 --> 00:40:28,801
Speaker 3: this supplement. It's going to help you.

841
00:40:29,081 --> 00:40:29,761
Speaker 1: Yeah.

842
00:40:29,841 --> 00:40:32,241
Speaker 3: Yeah, So obviously knowing what you know about five and

843
00:40:32,241 --> 00:40:34,841
Speaker 3: now you're like okay, yeah, because I need to for

844
00:40:34,921 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: my overall well being and health andernal health. So yeah,

845
00:40:38,481 --> 00:40:41,881
Speaker 3: you can book online with me for an initial consult. Typically,

846
00:40:41,881 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: i'd like to see some sort of pathology price what's

847
00:40:45,521 --> 00:40:48,201
Speaker 3: going on, and that can be within the last six months.

848
00:40:48,961 --> 00:40:50,881
Speaker 3: I see a lot of people that have already had

849
00:40:50,921 --> 00:40:53,041
Speaker 3: like functional testing done as well, and I can kind

850
00:40:53,081 --> 00:40:56,241
Speaker 3: of look at that through a different lens, can support

851
00:40:56,321 --> 00:40:58,761
Speaker 3: someone going through yeah, different health complaints.

852
00:40:58,801 --> 00:41:02,361
Speaker 1: So yeah, amazing. Thank you. We'll leave your details in

853
00:41:02,401 --> 00:41:03,921
Speaker 1: the show notes below and then you can get in

854
00:41:03,921 --> 00:41:06,161
Speaker 1: contact with you about your Thank you so much for

855
00:41:06,241 --> 00:41:09,241
Speaker 1: joining us. This was so informative, it was incredible. I'm

856
00:41:09,241 --> 00:41:11,081
Speaker 1: excited to continue my journey with you, and I hope

857
00:41:11,081 --> 00:41:12,921
Speaker 1: other women book in with you because I've learned so

858
00:41:13,081 --> 00:41:15,601
Speaker 1: much and we're not just here to survive and get

859
00:41:15,601 --> 00:41:18,801
Speaker 1: through each day. We want to be thriving internally externally.

860
00:41:19,121 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: And I feel great now and I've got some hormon issues.

861
00:41:21,521 --> 00:41:22,921
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how I feel in three

862
00:41:22,961 --> 00:41:26,161
Speaker 1: to six months time, you know exact. Yeah, short term

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Speaker 1: and long term so beneficial. So thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Sure