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Speaker 1: Apogee production.

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Speaker 2: The closest I've ever had to someone being disappointed as

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Speaker 2: I had an American Navy person. It was back when

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Speaker 2: the ship stocked the American ships before COVID. He came in.

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Speaker 2: He booked the shortest session. It was very nervous and

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Speaker 2: was unable to finish. I did everything in my power,

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Speaker 2: but I cannot control these bodies. If I could, I

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Speaker 2: would trust me that. Do you know how much money

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Speaker 2: that would make me if I put away for magic

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Speaker 2: wand and they just shoot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they still get that hour.

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Speaker 2: If they're different hours, Oh yeah, they get there.

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Speaker 1: It happens if they if they okay, So I have

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Speaker 1: to maybe say, there's a client comming in on us

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Is he allowed to go again? Or is

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Speaker 1: it just that? Is it just talking for that next

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Speaker 1: hour or.

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Speaker 2: It completely depends on the worker. For me, I'm happy

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Speaker 2: to go pretty much as many times as the person can,

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Speaker 2: but it does have to be within reason. I have

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Speaker 2: had clients who have booked like a two hour session

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Speaker 2: and they have erect our discussion and just can't finish.

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Speaker 2: But they're hard for the whole two hours physically, Like

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Speaker 2: you have to also imagine they may not be my

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Speaker 2: only client that day that week. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: injure myself. So if they're happy to, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe we could change to different types of activities so

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Speaker 2: that I can rest my mouth or for a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: But I will do my absolute best.

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Speaker 1: Yet, wasn't That was my next question? What is your

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Speaker 1: favorite sex position?

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Speaker 2: I'm an old school girl. I like missionary. It is

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Speaker 2: a classic for a reason.

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Speaker 1: What what is the What is the best pleasure you

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Speaker 1: give to a client.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a tricky one. I've got to I really

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Speaker 2: do like it when I can see their eyes pop

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Speaker 2: out of their head a little bit, like when I

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Speaker 2: take it suck them down the whole way, and the

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Speaker 2: I's just kind of bold. That's always fun. And then

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Speaker 2: I've also had a few clients who, after the booking,

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Speaker 2: they've had, you know, a lot of family issues or something,

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Speaker 2: and they were just like, thank you. I just really

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Speaker 2: needed human touch. I just needed to connect with another

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Speaker 2: human being. And you know, sex is great and it's fun,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it always needs to be something

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Speaker 2: more and emotional, but when it is, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: always nice.

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Speaker 1: Yea, What's what's the what's the best way. What clients

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Speaker 1: has touched you or been with you in a way

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Speaker 1: where you've gone Wow.

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Speaker 2: I did have this one client who he used to

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Speaker 2: book me every other month for three hours, and he

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Speaker 2: could make me come about four or five times. I'm

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Speaker 2: not even kidding. I've never had that. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how he did it, but he had erect dal dysfunction himself,

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Speaker 2: so it was just purely focused on me. Very talented.

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Speaker 1: Do you like it? Do you like it when a

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Speaker 1: client comes in and focuses wants to focus on you

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Speaker 1: instead of you focus on them, or do you just

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Speaker 1: like take control.

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Speaker 2: I do prefer to focus on them. I'm a bit

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Speaker 2: more of a giver than a receiver. And it actually

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Speaker 2: took me a while with that client who liked to

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Speaker 2: folks with me. It took me a couple sessions to

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Speaker 2: kind of fully get into it. He saw me for

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Speaker 2: a long time, so that's how able to kind of

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Speaker 2: build up to that space where he knew exactly what

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Speaker 2: to do. But yeah, I much prefer to focus on clients.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it is usually a give and take

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Speaker 2: and that can be fun too. Is it variety? I

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Speaker 2: think that's the main thing.

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Speaker 1: What are the main things a client can't do. Is

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Speaker 1: it that you don't like? And what is it? That's

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Speaker 1: what's a no? No, there's no kissing yet there's no Oh.

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Speaker 2: So I can't I can't advertise my services. How do

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Speaker 2: I say this without breaking the law? I can't advertise itself.

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Speaker 2: But what I can say is there is a gift

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Speaker 2: in the industry that we don't kiss our clients. Most

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Speaker 2: of us, the vast majority of us do in some way,

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Speaker 2: whether we charge extra for it or not. It's very

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Speaker 1: Have you ever kissed the client and you've just gone,

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Speaker 1: even though you say you don't want to kiss the client,

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Speaker 1: if you kiss the client and you've looked at that

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Speaker 1: client in a way where you're not a client.

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Speaker 2: I've never not said that. I've never said that I

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Speaker 2: don't want to kiss a client.

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah, Okay, So you're the type of who

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Speaker 1: gets really involved in virtually every client that comes to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think like that kissing is the most

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Speaker 2: common thing we do in this industry.

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Speaker 1: I can see now why you don't need a boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: If you've got your clients do it.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, they spoil me like And that's another

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Speaker 2: issue in this industry. When I talk to my peers,

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Speaker 2: they're always like, dating is awful because my clients treat

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Speaker 2: on trips and then they pay for my time and

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Speaker 2: they're a perfect gentleman. They and then they go yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then they go.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got your nice to yourself.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You always don't you want back that companionship.

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Speaker 2: Now, Like I said, if it happens, it happens. But

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Speaker 2: I'm very lucky that I have amazing friends and family.

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Speaker 2: So if I ever get lonely, I have so many

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Speaker 2: people that I can call up to to have deep,

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Speaker 2: meaningful emotional support. And I'm going to share my life

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Speaker 2: with these friends like they're just Those relationships are just

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Speaker 2: as important to me as romantic ones. So I don't

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Speaker 2: don't feel a need for it. But if it happens,

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Speaker 2: that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 1: I've got to know you in this the last you

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Speaker 1: know half mile forty minutes. You love sex a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't want a boyfriend, no, So there's no way

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Speaker 1: in the world you're going to give up soon because

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Speaker 1: you like it too much. Plus you like the money,

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Speaker 1: which you must be making good money.

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Speaker 2: It's not too bad. I like more so being my

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Speaker 2: own boss and the flexibility the money is definitely it's

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Speaker 2: more accessible I think the most jobs because you've got

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Speaker 2: to get the interview and the qualifications and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. We're here, you in control of everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, the price has gone up because of the way

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Speaker 1: the world's gone at the moment, or the prices they

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Speaker 1: the same? Is it like Colson will Wis where all

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Speaker 1: the prices have gone up and now do you do

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Speaker 1: pot prices up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So every lady's different. So some have raised their

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Speaker 2: been able to get the work. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: the price is just supply and demand and a lot

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Speaker 2: of it like some ladies they only want to work

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Speaker 2: once a month. They just want a bit of extra

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Speaker 2: spending money, so they only want one booking so they're

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Speaker 2: going to charge like one to two grand month because

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Speaker 2: they don't want a million inquiries, where other people they want,

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Speaker 2: you know, ten grand a week. So they might actually

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Speaker 2: have a very low price so that they can have

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Speaker 2: a lot of clients in. But sometimes you can also

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Speaker 2: drop your price so low that people think you're dodgy

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Speaker 2: and a scammer. So pricing is an interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: Is anybody ever asked because it's protection, anyone asked to

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Speaker 1: not wear protection?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that happens a lot. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: ask not to wear protection. It is a criminal offense.

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Speaker 2: You can go to jail for asking an escort not

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Speaker 2: to wear protection for either really of course or oral sex. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a criminal offense here. And it's also a criminal

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Speaker 2: offense for me to offer it or to even not

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Speaker 2: say no. So this is how this is how cops

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Speaker 2: often get us. They'll pretend to be a client. Oh really, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: entrapman is legal here, so they will pretend to be

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Speaker 2: a client. They'll come in, they'll say can I have

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Speaker 2: oral without a condom? And if I ignore that or

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Speaker 2: don't say no, that's a criminal offense. And they have

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Speaker 2: publicly stated that they deliberately pick on people who do

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Speaker 2: not speak English very well. So, yeah, there was the

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Speaker 2: very recent it only very recently stopped at the beginning

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Speaker 2: of this year. I believe there was a specific task

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Speaker 2: force in Queensland where their whole job was to go

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Speaker 2: undercover and basically get these girls, these ladies and arrest them.

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Speaker 2: There's no law on how far they can go in

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Speaker 2: the booking. It's all up to the commissioner and what

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Speaker 2: the public think would be reasonably necessary to achieve their goals.

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Speaker 2: So technically they can have sex with the sex worker

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Speaker 2: and then arrest them, which is a whole issue of

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Speaker 2: consent and rape, and I would very much believe would

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Speaker 2: be rape. The rules are also different, so I do

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Speaker 2: believe in Queensland, say a cop is undercover trying to

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Speaker 2: get drugs, they can't. Well, they're not supposed to whether

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Speaker 2: they do or not, it's different. They're not supposed to

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Speaker 2: make something happen that wouldn't have otherwise happened, so they

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Speaker 2: can't be like I'm gonna give you heaps more money,

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Speaker 2: or if you don't like, but it's my birthday, or

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Speaker 2: emotionally kind of they can do that to us. So

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Speaker 2: it's very often that the cop will come in and

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Speaker 2: be like, oh, but you know, I'll give you so

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Speaker 2: much more money, I'll write you a bad review if

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Speaker 2: you don't do it without like protection, and then the

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Speaker 2: lady will agree because she's scared, she's been basically forced

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Speaker 2: into it from her perspective, and then he will arrest her.

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Speaker 1: What are they trying to achieve from this, because to me,

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Speaker 1: there's so much more that you'll be doing out there,

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Speaker 1: but they want to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the public, the thing that they say publicly is, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's to protect the ladies, to stop us from getting

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Speaker 2: into But we've had many conversations. There is an organization

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Speaker 2: that nationally represents us and state based, and when you

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Speaker 2: actually look at the documents, they've said that they acknowledge

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Speaker 2: that the current policy hurts workers, the broader community, and

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Speaker 2: clients way more than decriminalization. They don't care. Basically, they

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Speaker 2: have a Christian right wing agenda against us. They don't

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Speaker 2: want us to exist, and they want if they have

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Speaker 2: to make it legal, they want to make it so

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Speaker 2: difficult to do it legal that we either get arrested

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Speaker 2: or we work so unsafely to comply with the law

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Speaker 2: that we get kept. Yeah,