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Speaker 2: Welcome to first things First, I'm Brooklett, and my pronouns
Speaker 2: are she and her.
Speaker 1: I Maddie meals. My pronouns are he and human. Before
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 3: So a bit of a question to you this episode.
Speaker 1: Now, what is this an intervention?
Speaker 2: No, actually no, it's actually more of a an announcement.
Speaker 3: You've got an announcement, don't you.
Speaker 1: I do? Can I have some trumpets.
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, guys, we're starting off really well.
Speaker 1: Here we have a prince or a princess on their way. No,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm not pregnant, but I am starting the
Speaker 1: surrogacy journey. Yes, so I'm getting.
Speaker 3: Baby sounds.
Speaker 2: Shut.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited because I'm going to be getting my
Speaker 1: sperm analyzed this week and I want to see if
Speaker 1: I have little swimmers. This is the first The first
Speaker 1: step of the process is getting a microscope over all
Speaker 1: my babies, the thousand of them I know, and just
Speaker 1: I want to see them.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I saw this quote today I think it was today
Speaker 2: or yesterday, and it was like, it's about dating. It's like,
Speaker 2: the sperm swims to the egg sists, so don't be swimming.
Speaker 3: Pretty much like, so don't swim to them. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: wait for them.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I'm going I need I need it on a shirt.
Speaker 3: I need it on a shirt.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm hoping that my you know, sperm will be
Speaker 1: swimming to an egg soon. It's obviously a long process.
Speaker 1: It's not something that's going to happen overnight. Like we're
Speaker 1: starting the process. We're getting a sperm analysis done, and
Speaker 1: then we're going to Columbia in August and we're going
Speaker 1: to be having meetings with some surrogacy agencies on the
Speaker 1: ground and having conversations with family members of my partner
Speaker 1: so that we can work out exactly how the baby's
Speaker 1: going to come. And we have a couple of scenarios
Speaker 1: in the air. So a friend has offered to donate
Speaker 1: her eggs, which is amazing, a really good friend of
Speaker 1: mine who I trust. The other option is that my
Speaker 1: partner's sister donates an egg and it can be both
Speaker 1: of our DNA, which I would love. That would be
Speaker 1: my top tier scenario. My sperm her egg which is
Speaker 1: both Danny and I's DNA, and you can never that's undeniable,
Speaker 1: you know, both family lineage is there and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: So that that's sort of what's happening at the moment.
Speaker 1: That's the Yeah, I know, And I always knew that
Speaker 1: I would be a dad, and I feel like the
Speaker 1: time has come where I need to now start the process,
Speaker 1: which is amazing. And I have a great partner with
Speaker 1: really good values that I feel like one we are
Speaker 1: aligned on, which is really good.
Speaker 3: So this is exciting, I know, scary, very scared.
Speaker 1: I'm scared because this is me to a t. I
Speaker 1: wish that the baby could be growing inside me so
Speaker 1: that I can control all the outcomes, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I wish that I could have the baby.
Speaker 2: In the opposite I'm like, can someone just be pregnant?
Speaker 2: And I just get the envy.
Speaker 1: See, I'm so I suppose meticulous when it comes to process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And for this process, I've said to my partner, like,
Speaker 1: we need to ensure that the person who's carrying the
Speaker 1: baby is very healthy and like all those milestones that
Speaker 1: you go through into pregnancy. We want to make sure
Speaker 1: the agency like really is connected with us on those
Speaker 1: because we're two men having a baby, Like what do
Speaker 1: we know? No, you know, not a lot. So I
Speaker 1: want to be.
Speaker 3: Really apps like this is a thing, like you.
Speaker 1: Can do a lot of research understanding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's an app that you can follow how
Speaker 2: big the baby.
Speaker 3: Is from start to birth.
Speaker 2: There's too much information to be fair out there, Like
Speaker 2: you don't know where kind of to start in your journey.
Speaker 2: But I think the best thing to start with this.
Speaker 3: Us someone who has been a mother and has been pregnant.
Speaker 1: Well absolutely, And also I have gay friends who are
Speaker 1: dats you know. So I have a friend who's gone
Speaker 1: through this exact same process and his sister donated the
Speaker 1: egg and his partner sperm had a baby. Perfect, Like
Speaker 1: that's the ideal scenario for us, and he's had that happens.
Speaker 3: I've just seen that Luke and Sass Scott.
Speaker 2: I follow them on TikTok and Instagram, and I think
Speaker 2: they're actually so funny, and I've seen them at events
Speaker 2: and they're always such a good time.
Speaker 1: There's such good husbands, like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Like Scott has a husband, Luke's I think single, right.
Speaker 1: I was trying to make a joke as if they
Speaker 1: were husbands.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they actually had that as a joke.
Speaker 2: I was par they're a couple to some of us.
Speaker 2: Guy who was like, yeah, these lovers, they had a bait.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was just like a whole big thing.
Speaker 2: I feel for this is the whole thing, like with
Speaker 2: the scrutiny and controversy and media. Yeah, but no, Scott's
Speaker 2: gone through the whole process and he's got twins.
Speaker 3: Twins got that's a handful.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure one, Yeah, totally. We've we've discussed this
Speaker 1: scenario because I'm pretty sure that the Scott scenario with
Speaker 1: his babies was that he's had twins, but one is
Speaker 1: his sperm and once his partner sperm, so you know,
Speaker 1: one one of each. I'm pretty sure that's that's the
Speaker 1: scenario there, because they did share a little bit about it.
Speaker 1: But I want to have a conversation with Scott because
Speaker 1: we follow each other on social media, we connect online.
Speaker 1: We you know, send little memes and stuff, like we
Speaker 1: have a dialogue going.
Speaker 2: I really would them on the pod. I hope we
Speaker 2: can be amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like it'd.
Speaker 2: Be so insightful for you to ask questions about the
Speaker 2: whole journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's super expensive to do it through
Speaker 1: the US. Yeah, Like what I've noticed is that we
Speaker 1: need to cut as many corners as we can without
Speaker 1: increasing the risk. You know, that's like my thing. I'm
Speaker 1: like my partner, I know how expensive this is going
Speaker 1: to be. We're talking, you know, probably around one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars. Wow, if you do the US route,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. You can do you know,
Speaker 1: for a lot less if you do it like Colombian agency,
Speaker 1: it's more like sixty seventy thousand, halfish, Yeah, so halfish,
Speaker 1: but it's still a lot of money. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. But I feel like it's the investment of
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: That kind of also infuriates me because it's like, well,
Speaker 2: you can you know, you have to pay.
Speaker 3: That much money to have a baby.
Speaker 2: You know, women have to do IVF if they want
Speaker 2: to do it, and some men can just literally put
Speaker 2: the penis in a woman and fucking run away, And
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just annoys me because it's like
Speaker 2: so easy. Sorry, And this is not me hating, No,
Speaker 2: this is me just like generalizing.
Speaker 1: But not when we spoke about fertility and you were
Speaker 1: like getting fertility checks, did you get it done?
Speaker 2: I got a referral. So I got a referral to
Speaker 2: a fertility clinic. Yes, and I just have to book
Speaker 2: my appointment.
Speaker 1: Is that something you still want to do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I just.
Speaker 2: Have put it on the backburner recently because I've got
Speaker 2: school on and acting. School's taken a lot of my time.
Speaker 2: But oh my god, there's like such a part of
Speaker 2: me that still wants it so bad.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2: I would be definitely in a different position at this
Speaker 2: age of where I am now. But I think also
Speaker 2: because I'm learning so much from school, I feel like
Speaker 2: I am shedding a lot more and I want to
Speaker 2: be in there, I guess the best position I can
Speaker 2: be for my child and not putting any of my
Speaker 2: trauma or any of my experiences and having that affect
Speaker 2: my child and in the future, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's it's good.
Speaker 2: I'm still unpacking that and I didn't realize how much
Speaker 2: work I had already done as well. But also how
Speaker 2: much more work I still have to do, which is
Speaker 2: everyone's on their journey.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I still want to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I still think about baby names.
Speaker 1: I love this, what's your top tier baby name? I
Speaker 1: know your mom's name for a girl is important.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, so that's just kind of like it. Like, well,
Speaker 2: the excited thing is, my sister in law is pregnant.
Speaker 2: So you know, my brother's just had his first child,
Speaker 2: who's now six months, and he looks so I love
Speaker 2: seeing my brother in my nephew and that's the beauty
Speaker 2: of that's so beautiful. And then my sister in law
Speaker 2: is having the first girl, which we always said, whoever
Speaker 2: has the first girl will get the.
Speaker 1: Name we spoke better exactly. Yeah, weren't they deciding that
Speaker 1: it was going to be the middle name?
Speaker 2: They did, so I get sort of right away with that,
Speaker 2: which is actually really special. So if I have a
Speaker 2: daughter in the future, like definitely Sianna. I love the
Speaker 2: name Olive, not oliv No, Like, if I have another girl,
Speaker 2: I'd much prefer having Gallay boys. You know how much
Speaker 2: I love color, you know, and Siena is a color
Speaker 2: like is that burnt Sienna?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Like that oca color, which I love. That's why cobra
Speaker 2: is called koba because it means copper. So you know,
Speaker 2: like if I ever have a daughter, I'll have Sienna
Speaker 2: and Koba is my son, my first son. But I
Speaker 2: love Olive or you know, it could be Oliver if
Speaker 2: I have a boy, and then call him Oli or
Speaker 2: Oliver as well, like whatever, But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just have this thing with colors and names, yes, and
Speaker 2: having general like not female.
Speaker 3: Specific and male.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I do, Like, how do you feel about names?
Speaker 1: Well? Have we do have a name picked out? Okay,
Speaker 1: so we have a name picked out because it's honoring
Speaker 1: my partner's uncle who died of HIV and no one
Speaker 1: in that family your uncle, but yeah, it's my partner's uncle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he his name was Emilio and it's a beautiful name.
Speaker 2: And I love like the just the writing of it.
Speaker 3: It's got that cursive feeling to it. I love that.
Speaker 1: So if we have a boy, he'll be named Emilio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we have a girl.
Speaker 3: Brooklyn and Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: This isn't a popular name and not many people like
Speaker 1: jump at it, but it was my NaN's nickname and
Speaker 1: it was Fletcher and Fletcher Fletcher for a girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's very Australian as well.
Speaker 2: You know my favorite singer who is this bisexual woman.
Speaker 3: Her name she's a redhead.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's so hot, love it already Fire Fletcher's fiery
Speaker 2: buyer Amelio.
Speaker 1: But also another name I like is a Sarah, which
Speaker 1: Sarah that means strength.
Speaker 3: How do you spell that?
Speaker 1: A C E R o Oh?
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: That means strength and it means steal.
Speaker 3: We have depth and you know, like substance.
Speaker 2: To our name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even a girl a Sarah yeah, something different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I definitely think if we have
Speaker 1: a boy, it'll be Amelia. If we have a girl,
Speaker 1: could be a Sero or Fletcher. These names are what
Speaker 1: we're thinking right now. We might come that, you know,
Speaker 1: baby who knows its like off the cards, off the cards.
Speaker 1: Definitely Matthew like Daniel. No, we have the most Monday names,
Speaker 1: Daniel and Matthew. Like. His actual name is Philippe, but
Speaker 1: his middle name is Daniel and he's always used Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's philipp Is. Yeah. In my middle name is Joel,
Speaker 1: Matthew Joel. I don't love my name. I don't resonate
Speaker 1: with it. I don't feel like I.
Speaker 2: Feel give them, give them like a name that you
Speaker 2: know will be like famous.
Speaker 1: I like the name of le Roy, Yeah, because it
Speaker 1: comes from Gilroy, Gimilroy, the kid Larroy l Roy.
Speaker 3: I do like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just le Roy, like Larroy? Whyron I l Roy
Speaker 1: like the kid Larroy, but without the kid. But he
Speaker 1: will be a kid. There's I mean, there's a few
Speaker 1: names that sort of go through through my mind. I
Speaker 1: don't love anything mundane. I don't want any simple name.
Speaker 3: So nothing like biblical, like Joseph.
Speaker 1: No sire no, no, no, definitely not absolutely not. I
Speaker 1: don't know where those names come from. But the Bible.
Speaker 1: I think you're listening your friends.
Speaker 3: Okay, also talking about the Bible.
Speaker 2: No Sam Sam and Alex arem Ie Sam, Alex Knick,
Speaker 2: Sam Alex Nick truly on repeat.
Speaker 3: I love my shirt today.
Speaker 2: Because it says my ex is my biggest fan. I'm like,
Speaker 2: which X thinks this is about them? Which?
Speaker 1: Okay, good question, Which X would be the biggest fan?
Speaker 3: I was thinking about it. I don't know all of
Speaker 3: them probably.
Speaker 2: Talking about biblical and I guess going down the route
Speaker 2: of you know, having a child one will you have
Speaker 2: them baptize?
Speaker 3: Is that something that you have in your family? Two?
Speaker 2: Also, do you believe in God parents? Because I will
Speaker 2: put my application in tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You know, I believe in God parents. Not for the
Speaker 1: reason of the I suppose the religion aspect. I believe
Speaker 1: that I would want people to be part of the
Speaker 1: family unit for support for I can we.
Speaker 3: Call it other than God parents? Like, it's not.
Speaker 1: But in our in our culture, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's auntie, uncle it is, you know, it's we have
Speaker 1: it already because our families.
Speaker 2: Like other aunties and uncles are another mom and dad,
Speaker 2: that's right, you know, yeah, brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1: And we have that experience, you know. Like, so I
Speaker 1: think that it'll be around us.
Speaker 3: Such kinship, beauty of that.
Speaker 1: So I think that, Like, but what I want is
Speaker 1: that the you know, I have this. I get emotional.
Speaker 1: Actually when I think about my kid already, how weird
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 3: It's not weird? Well, I cry about a baby I
Speaker 3: haven't even got yet. What do you do?
Speaker 1: When I think about my child, all I think about
Speaker 1: is how much I want them to feel and see love.
Speaker 1: That's what I want for them, So their experience as
Speaker 1: a kid beautiful. I want them to know what that
Speaker 1: feels like verbally, physically. I want their environment to be
Speaker 1: love like. And because I think that as a dad,
Speaker 1: like I want I want to show them, show them
Speaker 1: something different. You know, dads can be soft and gentle
Speaker 1: and supportive and kind and caring.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my dad, my doctor dad is like
Speaker 2: exactly like that. And it's so crazy because he's only
Speaker 2: come into my life for seven years. But imagine if
Speaker 2: you had that your whole life, like you. I'm so
Speaker 2: glad that I'm so strong and I've been so independent,
Speaker 2: but I've had to be sort of reparented in that
Speaker 2: sense to be yeah, yeah, exactly, and I had to
Speaker 2: be a little bit learned to be a bit soft.
Speaker 2: And I love my dad because he's just so personable.
Speaker 2: But imagine if, yeah, you're going to be a great dad.
Speaker 2: I just have feel it in my bones. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be fucking wonderful.
Speaker 1: I just know that it'll become my focus. It'll be
Speaker 1: my whole personality. You know, I will be like you know,
Speaker 1: I will be the dad that's at the park.
Speaker 3: I need to get my dad's stuff out of way.
Speaker 1: Breastfeeding I can already find like I already see joy
Speaker 1: in just hanging out at the park with my kid
Speaker 1: and the other parents all that sort of like parenthood
Speaker 1: time with your young child. I already see that I
Speaker 1: would enjoy that that. I know it'll be tough, but
Speaker 1: also as a gay couple, we need to make sure
Speaker 1: that the legality is something that my brain goes to
Speaker 1: on parenthood when you're a gay couple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like who gets the kids and.
Speaker 1: What happens if anything goes down? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that's like I am already.
Speaker 3: Protective a prenup.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm already protective of my child in that sense, you.
Speaker 3: Know, so are you guys? Splitting the cost?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird to think splitting the cost for
Speaker 2: a baby, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I think what's fair, though, is that I think as
Speaker 1: a family unit, whoever is the breadwinner. If you're in
Speaker 1: the family unit and you really love each other and
Speaker 1: you want to create something together, I don't think it
Speaker 1: needs to be fifty to fifty. I really don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think that if someone's two examples, if someone's on
Speaker 1: one hundred k year and someone's on three hundred k year,
Speaker 1: that's not what we're on, but that if that was
Speaker 1: what we were on, difference, there's a huge difference. So
Speaker 1: I think that it's about coming together and making you know,
Speaker 1: both making their investment at the time, the financial sacrifice,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't need to be equal.
Speaker 2: For me, Yeah, you can both contribute, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be fifty to fifty. Yeah however, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think that's within your means, and it's about compromise
Speaker 2: and communication and discussing like what is in your capacity.
Speaker 1: Because for me, my timeline doesn't go out the window
Speaker 1: whether I have a partner or not. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, having a baby is happening, it is. I
Speaker 1: don't need to depend on my partner for that. Like
Speaker 1: I know that the process depends on a woman and
Speaker 1: an egg, but like you know, my gay partner, it
Speaker 1: doesn't depend on our relationship. Yeah, which is super important
Speaker 1: to me. So whether I'm with my partner or not,
Speaker 1: I'm having a baby, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And neither of you are are parents already. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you've kind of had a dog, so you
Speaker 2: kind of can gage a bit of responsibility and you've
Speaker 2: brought up you know, your siblings as well.
Speaker 1: I was like, basically a human.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I feel so different, but very still war
Speaker 2: a nappy. Well you both haven't been parents, so you're
Speaker 2: going to have a figuring out sort of teething out process.
Speaker 1: And he's really chill, and I'm really like rigent. I'm like, Nope,
Speaker 1: this is what needs to happen, and we need to
Speaker 1: talk to every agency that's possible, you know, Like he's like, no,
Speaker 1: it would be fine. I'm like, fuck, you know that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. Balance, Balance, good name, baby a baby name Balance. No,
Speaker 1: I don't speaking of that. What is the worst name
Speaker 1: you've ever heard?
Speaker 2: Balance?
Speaker 1: You could say balance, balance, Hi, this is Balance calling
Speaker 1: the roll Balance, it's Balance.
Speaker 2: This poor girl had this name in high school and
Speaker 2: I just watched her get absolutely teased her whole high
Speaker 2: school life. And I will now never name my kid this.
Speaker 2: But her name was Wylene.
Speaker 1: Spat out my drink.
Speaker 3: I know why, exactly why.
Speaker 2: And then the joke used to always be whyleen when
Speaker 2: you can stand, And I used to just want to
Speaker 2: smash people's faces in because I'm like this poor little
Speaker 2: Malaysian girl.
Speaker 1: Alone, cultural name was exactly just leave her a disgusting behavior.
Speaker 3: From teachers too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I used to want to like knock
Speaker 2: them out, but yeah, Wylen is just frustrating, Like I.
Speaker 3: Just feel for her.
Speaker 2: So that's probably not what I will name my kid.
Speaker 2: Probably not names that my exes have totally.
Speaker 1: Ye, what about like cultural?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Mostly yeah, I think like more but not.
Speaker 1: Like not like real ghetto because like sometimes like I
Speaker 1: know someone who's named their kids with the word kori
Speaker 1: in every single one of their kids' names, koreanak.
Speaker 3: And Kim Kardashi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but k is on all their names. Like it
Speaker 1: just it's a bit I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't love that, like a alisiha kayosha, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't love those kind of I.
Speaker 1: Don't know about white people naming their kids blackfellow cultural names.
Speaker 1: It just feels a bit gammon.
Speaker 3: It does feel a bit gammon. I'm not too sure.
Speaker 1: I'm more embarrassed for them than angry.
Speaker 3: No, I would never be angry.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, not like if they come to
Speaker 1: school and they say, hello, this is my son Kuolando.
Speaker 2: Or like you know, or they go this is my
Speaker 2: kid gamill Roy, you'd be like, do you.
Speaker 3: Know what that, you know what I mean, So I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would feel comfortable with it, But
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even care because it's nothing to do with me,
Speaker 2: do you know what. But on the other side of that,
Speaker 2: there are names that I hear and I just get
Speaker 2: so charged by it because I have had little shitty
Speaker 2: students that have had these names, and it can taint
Speaker 2: your experience with a name, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Just you just hear that name.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just and then someone will like, hey,
Speaker 2: my name is and that name and you're just like automatically.
Speaker 3: Also, do you think names shape people?
Speaker 2: Because I think there is a psychology in it, Like
Speaker 2: when a kid is named something, it's like their personality.
Speaker 2: Like then I feel like their name suits their personality,
Speaker 2: suit their name.
Speaker 1: I think that can happen.
Speaker 2: They can happen with the opposite, which is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Do I know anyone, but.
Speaker 1: I think Chris Brown does not. It's like the whitest
Speaker 1: name on the planet.
Speaker 2: It is doctor Chris Brown, and it suits him, you know,
Speaker 2: but Chris. But I also want my kid to have
Speaker 2: a name where they don't even have to, you know,
Speaker 2: have their last name, like Riana, Beyonce, Zippora, Zendaya, Margo.
Speaker 3: Margo exactly, exactly, Okay, this is exciting.
Speaker 1: Let me ask let me ask you a question before
Speaker 1: we wrap. What would be your rap name?
Speaker 3: DJ Brooklyn Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: I will be DJ Rafi. Why Refaki because I'm freaky.
Speaker 3: You're doing some reiki ship.
Speaker 1: No, I'm DJ Refi because I'm freaky. Oh, let's give.
Speaker 2: You Since my instagram used to be be Underscore Brooklyn B,
Speaker 2: so it's like Brooklyn B but like there was a space,
Speaker 2: and I think I like the I've got the.
Speaker 1: Best name for your instagram, Brooklyn Bay Gal, Brooklyn Bagels.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: And on that note, you have lost the plot. We're
Speaker 3: so excited for your surgency journey.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to the Auntie brook over there.
Speaker 2: I know, I can't wait to be another Auntie. But
Speaker 2: also we're so excited maybe to have Luke and Sassys
Speaker 2: Scott on so they talk about this.
Speaker 1: Would love that, would love to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, thank you guys so much for listening to.
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