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Speaker 1: You look and sound tired. We just got off a

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Speaker 1: And the next question is going to not be specifically

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Speaker 1: of those things that you understand better than I do,

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Speaker 1: the impact of you know, plastics and lots of other

432
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Speaker 1: you know, seed oils according to David Gillespie, and a

433
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Speaker 1: bunch of other things, like we're doing a lot of

434
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: shit us guys are doing, and a lot of shit

435
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: that's kind of fucking us up from a hormonal perspective

436
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Speaker 1: without even knowing it. Right.

437
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's like a really critical, really critical piece of

438
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Speaker 2: what I try to educate. I've actually because TRT is

439
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: on the rise, I actually developed, like I developed a course.

440
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: Tell people what that is? Made you and I know

441
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: what it is, but what is it?

442
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: TRT Testosterone replacement therapy. So basically what happens is if

443
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Speaker 2: you go to your GP in Australia. If you're a

444
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Speaker 2: guy and your testosterone levels is really low according to

445
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Speaker 2: a blood test, like I mean less than one hundred

446
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: and eighty I think it is, that that's the cutoff ringe.

447
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: Then you qualify for the ability to go on testosterone

448
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: replacement therapy. And that basically means that you're substituting the

449
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: hormone that your body is supposed to be making, but

450
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: you're just not making it. So then instead what happens

451
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: is they give you the hormone as a way to

452
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Speaker 2: preserve functioning. What will happen is though when you get

453
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: prescribed testosterone replacement therapy, it will significantly lower fertility. So

454
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: testosterone is really powerful. It will suppress sperm production, not fully,

455
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: but really powerfully. And this is a risk that men

456
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: need to be aware of, particularly the younger men. So

457
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Speaker 2: it's the young guys between twenty five and thirty five

458
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Speaker 2: who haven't had kids yet, Like, they've got to be

459
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Speaker 2: really careful with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's we're trying to trying to skip through them.

461
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Speaker 1: But okay, so let's say somebody's listening to this now

462
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Speaker 1: and they are or they care about some like a

463
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Speaker 1: dude who's somewhere in the twenty to forty range, who's

464
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Speaker 1: still or any range really, but we're talking about typically

465
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Speaker 1: people that might be wanting to become a dad. What's

466
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Speaker 1: three or four kind of no brain of things that

467
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Speaker 1: they can so I think they're balls. Not drinking out

468
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: of plastic bottles anything else on that list. Mate.

469
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Some sunlight exposure like going outside to the sun without sunscreen,

470
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: obviously within reason, but don't don't be afraid. Don't be

471
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: afraid of getting actual sunlight exposure, like chest exposure to

472
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: the sun literally increases testosterone. Really yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If anyone sees me just up and down Hampton from

474
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Speaker 1: a big pecs on display, I'm not being a dickhead.

475
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, get a sniffy. What

476
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Speaker 1: can I say.

477
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Speaker 2: You've got a medical certificate, you just say.

478
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Speaker 1: Just say, I'm not Yeah, this is Luca, this is prescription.

479
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: This is prescription, all right. I tell you something that

480
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on. I've been a very I've

481
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: been terrible at supplementing over the years, and unlike you,

482
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: not very methodical very you know, I've been probably a

483
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: little bit more methodical and strategic than the average punter.

484
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Speaker 1: But if you're a ten out of ten on the

485
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Speaker 1: you know, using your brain and being very strategic, methodical

486
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Speaker 1: and using research as your guide, you're a ten, and

487
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Speaker 1: the average punters are one or two. I'm probably a

488
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Speaker 1: four or five in that. But one thing that I

489
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Speaker 1: have done consistently, like the only supplement that I take

490
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Speaker 1: at the moments, and I've been doing it every day

491
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Speaker 1: for about and you'll probably tell me not to do

492
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Speaker 1: it every day, but anyway, I've been doing five about

493
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Speaker 1: five grams a day is just credit team, which is

494
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Speaker 1: not going to be a big surprise to you. Maybe

495
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Speaker 1: five to ten. But and this is again everyone, not

496
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Speaker 1: a not a prescription for anyone. It's just a personal story.

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Speaker 1: But I felt like towards the end of last year,

498
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Speaker 1: so five months ago, so I felt like I was

499
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Speaker 1: almost had low level chronic tigue. And I don't know

500
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: if this is correlated a lot, but my energy is better,

501
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: my cognitive function is better. I train better now. I

502
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think any of that's placebo because

503
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't doing it expect I

504
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: was just thinking, ah, because I get I get shout

505
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: out to Max's who are very generous to me. I

506
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: get all this shit for free, right, and I'm like, ah, anyway,

507
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: thoughts on creatine. For me, it seems to be working.

508
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's my brain or the product,

509
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: but Buck, I don't care. Whatever I'm doing is working,

510
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: so I'm going to keep doing that. What are your thoughts?

511
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Speaker 2: Creatine definitely works. It's probably one of the most well

512
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: studied ergogenic aids. It's funny because if you look at

513
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Speaker 2: that word ergogenic, that's literally, you know, one of my

514
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: Instagram hand or ergogenic health. And so if you like

515
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: Creatine's new research is mostly centered around brain like brain health,

516
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: and like, if you do a search on PubMed, you'll

517
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Speaker 2: see plenty of studies backing even like as low as

518
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Speaker 2: one to two grams per day supplemental. Are you going

519
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: to get much more benefit if you're taking five grams

520
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: for athletic performance and muscle growth and stuff. Yeah, but yeah,

521
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: creatine is the real deal.

522
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Speaker 1: People get a bit hysterical. I'm not sure. Does ergogenic

523
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Speaker 1: just kind of mean performance enhancing?

524
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, any any technique or substance used to enhance performance.

525
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Speaker 1: People get hysterical about that. Idea, And I'm like, until

526
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Speaker 1: you tell them that, I'll guess what else is performance enhancing? Water?

527
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

528
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Speaker 1: Sleep, meditation, you know, like protein. You know it's like, ah,

529
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Speaker 1: so turn down the hysteria. You know what else is

530
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: performance enhancing training? Oh? Okay, you know what else? Ice bars, recovery,

531
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Speaker 1: so breathwork. So the biggest peptide of twenty twenty four

532
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Speaker 1: as announced the other day by you. I don't know

533
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Speaker 1: if you just did like a snapshot or you've done

534
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Speaker 1: a deep dive, but I think it's called I'm probably

535
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: going to fuck this up. I never heard of it

536
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Speaker 1: till you told me the other day, without knowing that

537
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: you told me Die Luccene yep, yep. Is that what

538
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: I've never I mean, I've never heard of that? Is that?

539
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Have we known about that for a long time? Or

540
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: is that a recent discovery or is the process?

541
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Speaker 2: Well let's let's let's frame it. So, first of all,

542
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 2: maxes that that creed. They let's have a look at

543
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Speaker 2: protein powder. Right, Let's say you've got Maxi's protein powder.

544
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Speaker 2: If you look at the label on Max's protein powder,

545
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: they'll have a whole amino acid breakdown and they'll have

546
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: without a doubt they'll have lucine in there, and lucine

547
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: is actually part of what we call the BCAA family.

548
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So lou've scene has a lot of research

549
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: to back its use for stimulating m tore, which is

550
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: a mealian target of wrapromycin, which is like a trigger

551
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: for protein synthesis. Leucine has been studied heavily. But there's

552
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: a new form of leucine which is actually two loucine

553
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: molecules bound together, called dilucine, which creates a peptide. Because

554
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: a peptide technically is two to fifty amino acid like

555
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: just has to be two or above, and so dilucine

556
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: can be used orally in supplemental form, and it does

557
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: appear to increase muscle protein synthesis for more than free

558
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: leucine does. So if leucine is the trigger for protein synthesis,

559
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: one of the main triggers in way protein, then could

560
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Speaker 2: you imagine if you add dileucine, which outperforms loucine to

561
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Speaker 2: a protein powder. You can just imagine the animalolic response

562
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Speaker 2: that you could get from that.

563
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Speaker 1: Wow, Max's are you paying attention? That would be good?

564
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: That would be good?

565
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: All right?

566
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Let's go again on this is very broad in general,

567
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Speaker 1: and this is zooming out to the macro and zooming

568
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Speaker 1: away from the micro for a minute. And I'm sure

569
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Speaker 1: you and I could talk about this for a long time,

570
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: but let's give it a minute or two, because it's

571
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Speaker 1: something that everyone does know and understand. Fiber is the

572
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Speaker 1: I think we used to get told something like we

573
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Speaker 1: need forty grams of fiber a day for bowel health

574
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: or but then you have people who have essentially no

575
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Speaker 1: fiber and just live on meat and don't seem to

576
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Speaker 1: die of constipation. Tell us about your thoughts and recommendations

577
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Speaker 1: on fiber.

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00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as a naturopath, if I said publicly that

579
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Speaker 2: we don't need fiber, I would probably get a million

580
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: letters from other naturopaths saying like, what are you doing?

581
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Like you're supposed to be a naturopath. You're supposed to

582
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: support the gut health of all humans across the world.

583
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Because every single realistically, every single subject that we studied,

584
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Speaker 2: every single lectra used to come back and say it

585
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: all comes back to gut health, Like it's all about

586
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at the quality of their

587
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: poop and if it's not good. Then there's something wrong, right,

588
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: all right? So where does that leave fiber? I personally

589
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: do see a time and place and a pretty significant

590
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: importance for fiber intake for humans. The reasons that I

591
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: think it's important is probably not what the average person

592
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: thinks it's important for. But I personally know that fiber

593
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: can stimulate hormones in the gut that control society and

594
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: can help to regulate insulin resistance and all that sort

595
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Speaker 2: of stuff. So in my opinion, and as one particular

596
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: fiber that I literally add to my protein powder pretty

597
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: much every single day is called partially hydrolyzed guagum PHGG

598
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: and that's like fully soluble like mix as well. There's

599
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: no taste whatsoever, And it's literally one of the best

600
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: fibers for not only reversing IBSC but also IBSD so

601
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Speaker 2: constumpation and diarrhea.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So fiber has an impact on leptin production

603
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: or grain or both? It does both both? Wow Wow,

604
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: that's fucking fascinating. All right, let's keep going. So a

605
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Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about N m N, which

606
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: all a lot of people call em M M N

607
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Speaker 1: Finelle M for Michael N. Finelle as my mother would say, well,

608
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: the fuck is n m N and do we need it?

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: Okay? NIMN stands for nicotinamide mono nucleotide and it's basically, yeah,

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00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: that's very basic. Hopefully that that's why that's what we

611
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: call it.

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00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Men. Yeah, that doesn't test me on that at the

613
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: end I will fail. Yep.

614
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: So, nicotinamide mononucleotide is basically helps with the synthesis of ATP.

615
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: So it helps to facilitate the conversion of carbohydrates into

616
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: the body's main energy currency, which is ATP. So it's

617
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: very similar to creating. Now, if we look at what

618
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: happens when humans take enimen in capsule form, because of

619
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: course we can. We can. We can find this animen

620
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: in foods like there's taki, mushrooms, broccoli, cabbage, like these

621
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Speaker 2: are foods that are contain quite high amounts of NIMN.

622
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Speaker 2: But what happens if you if you supplement with the

623
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Speaker 2: with this, it switches on long jer genes, so it

624
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: turns on longevity genes, and it helps to improve overall

625
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: metabolic health such as reductions in serreactive protein, improvements in

626
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: insulin sensitivity, reductions in fasting blood sugar levels, improvements of

627
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: cholesterol parameters. And if we look at like what what

628
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: a let's say a person has what I call is

629
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Speaker 2: a virgin to anemen. They've never used it before, and

630
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: they take a high quality ANEMEN and they use it

631
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: for the first time ever. Most people report improvements in

632
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: general energy, like general energy and that's like very very

633
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: minimal side effects. Like yeah, so it's a it's got

634
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: a great safety profile and its completely it's probably worth

635
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: that NIMAN supplement in space probably worth over one hundred

636
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: it's probably worth over I don't know, seven hundred million

637
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: dollars in the US, that's my guess.

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00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Wow. And so somebody like me, who I'm an an

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00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: MM virgin That could also be the title of the

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Speaker 1: show what. And again this is just this is not

641
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: a prescription because you've done no blood work and all that.

642
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: But what is an indicative kind of dose that I

643
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: would start on?

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Speaker 2: So as a beginner, I would start on five hundred

645
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Speaker 2: milligrams of venomen in.

646
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Speaker 1: The morning, right and just once a day.

647
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Speaker 2: Yep, Well, just just to start with and then gauging

648
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: how you respond if your sleep's affected or whatever, then yeah,

649
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: just you can go up to a gram that's fine.

650
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: Now another supplement that a lot of people take. This

651
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: is great, by the way, I love just banging questions

652
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: at you. Another supplement that a lot of people take,

653
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: by the way, Lucas's instagram is ergagetic underscore health, ergogenic

654
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: underscore health, and his business has boost a biology. So

655
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: get the fuck on board the Lucas train. A lot

656
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: of people takeesium. Yeah, but also I heard you say

657
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: that potentially some people wake up groggy and a little

658
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: bit lethargic as a consequence. Not everyone, of course, but

659
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: it has the potential to do that. Just unpack that

660
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: if you would.

661
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this comes back to a really important principle

662
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: when we're looking at different supplements, is that individual response.

663
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: Like there's going to be fluctuations in how you respond

664
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: versus how I respond, versus how Jack responds versus our

665
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: Sarah response, like all that sort of stuff. So magnesium,

666
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: if you have low baseline levels of cortisol and you're

667
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: taking a whopping dose of magnesium before bed, it's definitely

668
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: gonna shut you down and help you sleep. But sometimes

669
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Speaker 2: what can happen is the magnesium still lingering in the

670
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: body the following day, and that can make it a

671
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: little bit difficult for people to wake up and just

672
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Speaker 2: like bounce out of bed. So for example, if I

673
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: take a big dose of magnesium, it's I want to

674
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: hit the I want to hit snooze on the alarm

675
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Speaker 2: clock because I'm just too relaxed.

676
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine that happening. I was thinking as

677
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Speaker 1: you were talking about waking up lethargic, something else that

678
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: people use to sleep. And no, no, I don't even

679
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: know if you know anything about what. I'm sure you

680
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: fucking do because you're you cbe d oil. Now, this

681
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: is a left turn in the conversation. I know, I

682
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's in your wheelhouse, but I'm

683
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: sure you have some thoughts on it. CBD oil, of

684
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: course everyone is from the hemp plant. Is that the

685
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: right or marijuana? But it's the non psychoactive component. Yeah,

686
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that?

687
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: All right? So I can talk pretty extensively about CBD

688
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: because I actually volunteer myself in a clinical study to

689
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: be a participant to receive a whopping dose of CBD

690
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: four hundred milligrams. This was about five years five years

691
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: ago now, so basically what they were doing as well

692
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: they're wanting to assess pharmacokinetic and safety study of CBD

693
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: in healthy humans. It depends to define healthy humans and

694
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: basically what they wanted to see was the dosage escalation

695
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: and so CBD, even though people say that it's not psychoactive,

696
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: it's still having a calming effect and it shuts that

697
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: it will slow down. It can have calming properties and

698
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: anti stress properties. And in that study, when I was

699
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: when I received that massive dose, I was like very

700
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: very groggy and very very related. It was a big

701
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: dough like you're going to get that effect when you're

702
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: taking a big dose. But it really relaxed me a lot,

703
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Like an I.

704
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Speaker 1: Half life of that stuff? Mate, give or take up

705
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Speaker 1: the top of your Head's like, how I throw him

706
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: under the bus? Everyone.

707
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Speaker 2: It's probably not that long because even though it's fat solid,

708
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: was probably around I don't know, six hours or so, right, Actually,

709
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It could be it could be quite long.

710
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: Depends depends on the product. But it most people to

711
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: put into perspective. They're using five to ten, five to

712
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: ten milligrams. I had four hundred.

713
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, wow, so you had eighty times five

714
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: milligrams yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy. All right, we're on

715
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: the home straight. I'm giving you a nine out of ten.

716
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: So far, well done. Like you need some fucking evaluation

717
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: for me. Ah. So I heard you talking about everyone's

718
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: fascinated with not everyone, but a lot of people are

719
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: interested in fat loss. And I heard you talking about

720
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Speaker 1: something called nut grass, which I actually have. I never

721
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: even heard of it. If somebody asked me, I'd go, fuck,

722
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, go and ask Lucas what is it

723
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: and what does that allegedly do?

724
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a particular website that I was really

725
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: fascinated by when it comes to like understanding different supplements

726
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: and things like that. So not grass does contain a

727
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: few constituents that have anti obesity properties. Now this is

728
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: the same for we could look at I would say,

729
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: what's a good fat loss ingredient that your audience would know,

730
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: Like carnitine, Oh, carnatine is one, Like garcinia. Cambogia's probably

731
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: another one your audience would know about, which basically blocks

732
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Speaker 2: fat absorption in the small testine. But if you look

733
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Speaker 2: at if you look at a lot of these different

734
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Speaker 2: herbal medicines, for example, like what they do is. Some

735
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: of them will work by number one, either mimicking insulin

736
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Speaker 2: in the body, which is which is a good thing.

737
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Speaker 2: Number two, they will either block fat absorption by the

738
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Speaker 2: small intestine, so like literally like a fat blocker, or

739
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 2: they might also improve caloric burn at rest, so even

740
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: at rest they increase your what we call net energy expenditure.

741
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Speaker 2: And this particular nut grass does have some pretty cool

742
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: preliminary research at least in rodents that it can affect lepturn,

743
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: it can lower leptn, lower cordico steroids, decrease lipids, and

744
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: results in improvements in body composition. So this is just

745
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: one of the many different ingredients. Another one would be

746
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: fuk x anthem, which is a particular seaweed that are

747
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: some good effects. But as with most supplements, I'd say

748
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: it's just the icing on the cake. So make sure

749
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: you're doing your cardio, eating well, you know, all that

750
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: sort of stuff.

751
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: It's not a standalone solution. And it's also I mean

752
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: also it's interesting I was talking to I've spoken about

753
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: this before. I was talking the other day to a

754
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: guy who's dealing with an ongoing kind of permanent His

755
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: name is Terry. I'll give a shout out to Terry,

756
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: and he had a bunch of brain operations. And I'd

757
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: probably better not say how much of a particular drug

758
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: that I used once, right for a prescribed drug for

759
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: neural pain. Right now, The amount that I took was,

760
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: I took one pill and I literally hallucinated. I took

761
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: one tablet. I've never taken it before. And I was

762
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: sitting in my office Lucas, and I've got two whiteboards

763
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: in here, and I was sitting in I've got these

764
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: two big comfy leather chairs. I was in agony. I

765
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: had this fucked back bulging disks pressing on that I

766
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: was in agony, right, and I took one of these drugs,

767
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: which is for that kind of pain. And I literally

768
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: was staring at the whiteboard, and the writing on my

769
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: whiteboard slid off the whiteboard and slid down onto the wall.

770
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: Right now, in my mind or in my eyes, I

771
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: was looking at a clean whiteboard and writing all over

772
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: the wall, which I knew wasn't real, like I simultaneously

773
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: saw it, but knew it wasn't real. Anyway, I was

774
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: telling him about this, and I told him what I take.

775
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: Now he weighs about fifty or took. He weighs about

776
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: fifteen kilos less than me. Every day, he takes eight

777
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: times that every day. No hallucinating, No, And I'm like,

778
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the human body is what's my point? My point is

779
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: that all of these things, whatever it is that we

780
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: do to our body, whether it's put in a supplement

781
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: or a drug, or we ice our balls, or we

782
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: get in a fucking sauna, or we go for a

783
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: run or we sleep, there's going to be unique physiological reactions.

784
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: You know. There's there's very little absolute when it comes

785
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: to this stuff. And the thing that will you know,

786
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: someone can eat a handful of peanuts and they feel

787
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: satisfied and great. Someone else has one peanut and they

788
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: fucking die, you know, because of their unique physiology in

789
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: response to that particular stimulus that happens to be a peanut.

790
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: You know. So I think it's important that while we

791
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: listen to all of these ideas, you know, I'm talking

792
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: about from the listener's perspective now, that we do our

793
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: own research, but also tread really carefully. I mean, I

794
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: think there are some things that we know are for

795
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the most you know, if you want to introduce exercise

796
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: into your life. That's probably not a high risk thing

797
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: as long as you're not running a marathon two days

798
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: after you start. But just also, you know that an

799
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: equals one thing that I talk about a lot, lucas

800
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: of just just doing a bit of trial and error

801
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: and introducing who was I talking to the other day,

802
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: doctor Bill what's his surname, great guy scientists from the States,

803
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: and we're talking about this, and he said, yeah, let's

804
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: let's change one thing. Let's see what your body does,

805
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Bill Sullivan. That's it. And then so

806
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: rather than introducing five new things, because then we don't

807
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: know what the fuck's going on. We don't know what's

808
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: working and what's not.

809
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's that's that's critical because like there's

810
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: so many different Like there's like I said before, with

811
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: the individuality the response, and I think the main thing

812
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: is like at least the more knowledge you get about

813
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: your own physiology, the more you're empowered. And the more

814
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: that you're empowered, the more you have control of your life.

815
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: And like who doesn't want more control over the way

816
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: that they show up in the world, you know, So

817
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: definitely important important principles.

818
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: All Right, I want to finish on two quick things.

819
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Probably not quick, but we could do a whole episode

820
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: on it, but you probably don't want to. When I

821
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: don't really ozen pic, which is like, I've never seen

822
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: a drug get so much fucking press. I've never seen

823
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: or maybe I have, but nothing springs to mind. What's

824
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: your for? What it's what it's worth? I mean that respectfully,

825
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on ozeen pic, good, bad,

826
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: or indifferent?

827
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: So a zempic is a medication that's used to treat

828
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: type two diabetes, so it helps a low of blood sugar,

829
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: but it has some secondary effects of reducing body fat

830
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: and muscle mass as well. So if we look at

831
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: ozen pik, what it does is mimic the effects of

832
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 2: GLP one, glucagon like peptide one, which has a really,

833
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: to put it simply, irregulates appetite and it really super

834
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: powerfully without being a stimulant. Because the previous drugs that

835
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: we used to treat fat loss were central nervous system

836
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: stimulants and they would increase heart rate and have all

837
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: these sort of side effects. Thankfully, ozepic doesn't have those

838
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: nasty stimulant properties, but it does have a pretty long

839
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: half life in the sense that if you take it,

840
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: you will notice that you'll look at food very differently,

841
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: Like you'll look at food and almost be like disgusted

842
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: by food. It will make you repelled by food. You

843
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: won't be able to eat as much because it makes

844
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: you feel full. It will cause something a side effect

845
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: called gastroparesis, which is it will literally freeze the stomach

846
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: so it doesn't move food through the stomach, which can

847
00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: be really dangerous.

848
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: What do we call them motility? Do we call that that? Yeah?

849
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, intestinal periscelsis, which is Look, I think we've got

850
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: a lot of obese people in the world, Like and

851
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm not fat shaming or anything here, but like it's

852
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: like it's a it is a global issue. Okay, Now,

853
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: how do you get someone who's one hundred and fifty

854
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: kilos to start walking ten thousand steps a day when

855
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 2: it's when they're really struggling. So it's like, okay, well,

856
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: is that when nozeenpic is beneficial? Maybe because it's going

857
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Speaker 2: to get taken them from one hundred and fifty kilos

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Speaker 2: down to like, I don't know, one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: kilos without without huge amount of effort. On the per

860
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Speaker 2: It comes back to the effort side. People just don't

861
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Speaker 2: want the effort. People want the shortcut. A zempi is

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Speaker 2: going to provide that because it it will, but it

863
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Speaker 2: comes to cost. You know, people are losing muscle mass

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Speaker 2: as well, Like they're literally like dropping muscle mass, and

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Speaker 2: that's not good as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's finish on this. Do you do

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Speaker 1: you eat fruit? Do you recommend people eat fruit? Just

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Speaker 1: because I mean, there are some people that are like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about veggies everyone, I'm talking about fruit.

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Speaker 1: What's your And again just an opinion, everyone, don't get

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Speaker 1: your nickers in a nut.

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Speaker 2: I eat as much fruit as I want. I do

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Speaker 2: not have fruit concentrates and I do not have processed

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Speaker 2: sugary fruit juices. I literally have blueberries, blackberries, raspberries all

875
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Speaker 2: the time, apples, orange like, nothing wrong with fruit in

876
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Speaker 2: my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Great, So no peaches in a can for you, None

878
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Speaker 1: of that for me. Mate. Tell people how they can

879
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Speaker 1: find you, follow you, connect with you, and get you

880
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Speaker 1: to come and work with their team and all of

881
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Speaker 1: those things if they'd like to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can check out boost youoorbiology dot com. That's

883
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Speaker 2: my website connected with me there and also YouTube as well. Yeah,

884
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Speaker 2: since we last spoke that the channel's grown significantly and

885
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to send a lot of traffic to the

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel, which is also called boost Boost your Biology.

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Speaker 1: Well, congratulations mate. What you're doing is you're putting out

888
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Speaker 1: a lot of amazing content. And I'm not pissing in

889
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Speaker 1: your pocket. Like I follow you, I read you every day.

890
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Speaker 1: I'm excited every day to see what you're putting up.

891
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Speaker 1: You've been teaching me without knowing it, and you know,

892
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Speaker 1: thanks for what you're doing for everyone, and I appreciate

893
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you on the new project again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me, Craig. It's always a pleasure

895
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Speaker 2: to chat and I'm looking forward to the next one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah man, yeah, man. You're good value too. You come

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Speaker 1: at a right price, you know, So thanks everyone,