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Speaker 1: I'll get at Welcome to another installment of the show.

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Speaker 1: It's Harps, it's Tiff, it's doctor Cam. For God's sake,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Cam, do not continue the conversation that we were

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Speaker 1: just having, especially seeing as it's Easter Monday. We'll start

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Speaker 1: with you and we'll go backwards this time. How are

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Speaker 1: you incredibly well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I had a great little Easter egg hunt

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Speaker 2: with my kids yesterday, and I was trying to reduce

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Speaker 2: their chocolate load because the dietitian and me is still

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Speaker 2: alive at times, and watching my children ply themselves with

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Speaker 2: chocolate s difficult. So I got them some toys instead

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Speaker 2: of eggs, and they were the win. It's like a

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Speaker 2: little mini Christmas that worked.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, good for you. How much how much do

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Speaker 1: you just be the dad who's kind of a cool dad?

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Speaker 1: And how much do you be the authoritative, fucking researcher, scientist,

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Speaker 1: boring old fuck that goes that monitors everything.

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Speaker 2: I monitor everything. It's just whether I say it. I

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Speaker 2: definitely take it upon myself to educate my older one

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Speaker 2: as much as I can about mate, but this is

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Speaker 2: going to do that to your body? Right, But I'm not,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I'm definitely not the parent that buys

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Speaker 2: the slurpies as regularly, because I just I have this

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Speaker 2: even though I used to drown myself and slaves at

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Speaker 2: a job for my granddaddy had a service station and

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Speaker 2: I had unlimited slurpy access when I was eight or nine.

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Speaker 1: And you know, so look how you turned out exactly

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Speaker 1: like IMN. If we're looking at you as an N

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Speaker 1: equals one, everybody should do slurpies when they're young.

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Speaker 2: That's true. It's dangerous though, making assumptions from one to many.

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Speaker 2: But I hear what you're saying, and I probably am

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Speaker 2: a little bit paranoid about it. Probably the worst thing

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Speaker 2: that happens is that I've got the knowledge. I know

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Speaker 2: that it's unrealistic unless you're going to and I've got

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Speaker 2: friends that have absolutely set their mark to say, I'll

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Speaker 2: drive thirty kilometers rather than go to McDonald's three minutes

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Speaker 2: healthy food. Like I've got friends that do that, and

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Speaker 2: I love and but I actually like going to Macis

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Speaker 2: the kids absolutely love it. So I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 2: a little bit more realistic about it. As long as

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Speaker 2: I'm as long as they feel safe, that's probably number one,

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Speaker 2: and then the number two is moving as much as possible,

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Speaker 2: So I try and keep them active and then do

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Speaker 2: the food as I can.

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Speaker 1: You and missus McDonald co parent strategically in that you

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Speaker 1: have a certain role, she has a certain role, or

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Speaker 1: is it more freestyle than that.

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Speaker 2: We're not together, so we definitely, we definitely have that's

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Speaker 2: probably the we have the entire role when we've got

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Speaker 2: the kids, essentially, But I would have to say that

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Speaker 2: she is a very, very incredible human when it comes

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Speaker 2: all the things, just like many mums do. So what

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Speaker 2: is she better at than you?

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Speaker 1: We're not going to ask the other way around, but

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Speaker 1: what has she got you covered on?

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Speaker 2: She is so immediately practical problem solving, sees the thing

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Speaker 2: So she's just got that. She's got an insane ability

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Speaker 2: also she's got that abundance mentality as well, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: And she just makes it happen. She's magical at it.

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Speaker 2: So I create that in my own way, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's definitely a pretty powerful thing that she's got gone

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Speaker 1: It's good that you have the self awareness and the

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Speaker 1: she's better at some stuff than me, and that's just

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Speaker 1: Is there anything within the realm of parenting and I

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, and I'd have to say that the understanding

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Speaker 2: That is an absolute nightmare for my oldest child because

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Speaker 2: Whereas my second he's four, a bit more introverted, very

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Speaker 2: He just wants to do things with his friends, place, sports,

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Speaker 2: That's probably the biggest thing that I've learned, because I

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Speaker 2: it's just not their natural state.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that, like knowing, for example, that your

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Speaker 1: even say, we're sports where you would maybe consciously steer

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting in that having this awareness it has

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Speaker 2: be like, mate, we've got to go to swimming because

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Speaker 2: That's probably the big thing in my mind because I

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Speaker 2: And it's really easy now all of a sudden, So

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Speaker 1: It's incredible that the same people can produce kids that

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Speaker 1: And t if what's your parenting style with Lunar and Bear?

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Speaker 1: And do they get bizre of course, everybody, we're talking

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Speaker 2: Some very woke names though. If if they were lunering Bear,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine having a kid called Beert. That's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: the fucking world famous whippet. Shall I have her own

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Speaker 1: What that's about. So enough about parenting and steering your

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of self interest in this. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you can't be objective about yourself because I'm me, But

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Speaker 1: going to say better, Maybe not, but at least as

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Speaker 1: If there is cognitive decline, I can't sense it. Maybe

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Speaker 2: likely to match that. Whereas if you're constantly listening to

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Speaker 2: that you're no good and you've got limitations and whatever,

435
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Speaker 2: it might be as well, and that's where your thoughts

436
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Speaker 2: will go to as well. This is where that plasticity

437
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Speaker 2: is an absolute weapon, good and bads depending on your

438
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Speaker 2: exposure in the environment. So you've got to be just

439
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Speaker 2: like you are, actively focused on how do I want

440
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Speaker 2: my brain to grow and develop? You know, do I

441
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Speaker 2: want it to be more creative? Do I want it

442
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Speaker 2: to know more stuff? Or do I want to just

443
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Speaker 2: focus on all of the stress in my life? And

444
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 2: in both instances you'll create a brain that does that.

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Speaker 1: I always think, you know, I can't get another body,

446
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Speaker 1: this is this is a silly thing. But I think

447
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Speaker 1: I can get more money, I can get another job.

448
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: I'll probably even get more friends. I could start another

449
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, all of these things that if the worst

450
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Speaker 1: came to the worst, you could start again. Kind but

451
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Speaker 1: with your body, you know, of course, like it's pretty

452
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Speaker 1: resilient kind of, but it's the one thing that you

453
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Speaker 1: really can't replace. So I'm always thinking and I won't

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Speaker 1: be optimal. But I go, well, what what would optimal

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Speaker 1: look like for my brain or for my mind, or

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Speaker 1: for my posture, or for my spine, or for my

457
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Speaker 1: energy levels or for my body composition, or like how

458
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Speaker 1: do how do I work best? And what do I

459
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Speaker 1: need to do more of and less of to make

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Speaker 1: me work better? Yeah, and so like these questions around

461
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Speaker 1: and again, especially like within your work, we know that

462
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Speaker 1: different people need different things, even if they're chasing the

463
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Speaker 1: same outcome. But other than other than doing a deep

464
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Speaker 1: dive into your research, which is definitely not the worst idea,

465
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Speaker 1: but for people just here right now thinking where do

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Speaker 1: I start?

467
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Speaker 2: Like it?

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Speaker 1: So I start to optimize me?

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Speaker 2: I would say, when it comes to if you're taking

470
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Speaker 2: care of all the things, let's say that let's just

471
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Speaker 2: leave your psychology for a moment and let's go to

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Speaker 2: the physical side of things. Number one, get more sleep.

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Speaker 2: Getting more sleep or get an appropriate amount of sleep

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Speaker 2: so that you wake up refreshed. So the first thing

475
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Speaker 2: that you can do we did a whole episode on

476
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Speaker 2: this last time, is get consistent with your sleep and

477
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Speaker 2: make sure that you're in bed for over seven hours

478
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Speaker 2: like that is the first goal. Even if you're not

479
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Speaker 2: sleeping perfectly, just be in bed lying on your back.

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Speaker 2: You are more rested and more likely to recover lying

481
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Speaker 2: on your back than you are up and around. So

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Speaker 2: number one sleep, Number two is well, it's a movement

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Speaker 2: of your body. I would say, obviously you can hydrate

484
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Speaker 2: along with that too. Hydration is going to be very important.

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Speaker 2: But moving your body and the reason that moving your

486
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Speaker 2: body is so key. Firstly, your brain does best when

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Speaker 2: the blood flow is better. So and as soon as

488
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Speaker 2: you start exercising, you actually start creating compounds in your

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Speaker 2: body and in your brain that open up the blood

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Speaker 2: vessels that allow you to generate more blood flow out

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Speaker 2: to the areas of your brain that need it. And

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Speaker 2: if you get blood flow, it means you maintain those tissues. Now,

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Speaker 2: what's interesting, there's also chemicals that are released from your

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Speaker 2: from your muscles, and those chemicals specifically trigger It's called

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Speaker 2: what they call it in the spark is miracle grow

496
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Speaker 2: or ultimate fertilizer. For your brain, it's called brain derived

497
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Speaker 2: neurotrophic factor. Anything that stimulates brain growth will stimulate brain

498
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Speaker 2: brain derived neurotrophic factor. When you exercise. It's like sprinkling

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Speaker 2: fertilization on the key areas of your brain that normally degrade.

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Speaker 2: And we know that if you exercise. It's a really

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Speaker 2: great study looking at seventy year old who exercise forty

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Speaker 2: five minutes a day, three three times per week and

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Speaker 2: are going at a walk. It's about seventy percent of

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Speaker 2: the via t MAC So a stiff walk for forty

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Speaker 2: five minutes three times a week, their brain volume this

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Speaker 2: is at seventy five brain volume increased one to two

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Speaker 2: percent over the next twelve months, whereas their counterparts who

508
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Speaker 2: didn't exercise decreased one to two percent. So that's a

509
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Speaker 2: three to four percent differential in the size of your

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Speaker 2: brain if you don't do exercise versus you don't. So

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Speaker 2: just by moving your body and increasing your circulation, you

512
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Speaker 2: train your system to improve your blood flow. Better blood

513
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: flow also, and then particularly because you're using fuel, it

514
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: makes you more inchulin sensitive. Inchulin resistance, which is the

515
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Speaker 2: poor poor management of blood sugar that is one of

516
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Speaker 2: the quickest ways to degrade your neural tissue and also

517
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Speaker 2: to damage neural tissue as well. So regulating blood sugar level,

518
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Speaker 2: so if you can't even get up for walking right now,

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Speaker 2: Just start walking for ten minutes after every meal, and

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00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: you'll regulate your blood sugar levels better. We I mean.

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Speaker 2: Then also there's a motivation piece as well to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do this exercise. I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: my brain that I can do it. And so not

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Speaker 2: only are you increasing blood flow, not only are you

525
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Speaker 2: providing more miracle grow for your brain, but you're also

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Speaker 2: then saying, I want to think this way. If you're

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Speaker 2: going to grow new brain cells, grow them with the

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Speaker 2: along the lines of I can do this like firm

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Speaker 2: up that belief. So you've got this really amazing stacking

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Speaker 2: idea of if I'm exercising, telling myself I'm great. Plus,

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Speaker 2: not only am I getting blood blow, I'm getting bead

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Speaker 2: blood sugar, better blood sugar management. I'm also creating my

533
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Speaker 2: own antioxidants which decrease damage to the brain as well,

534
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Speaker 2: and I'm increasing protection of my brain. And then I'm

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00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: coupling that with a psychological exercise. I'm growing my brain

536
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Speaker 2: exactly the way that I want to. And evolutionarily, why

537
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Speaker 2: would we walk, why would we run? It was for

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Speaker 2: something important. The only time we would spend energy was

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00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: for something important, so our brain its memory picks up.

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00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: So if you exercise and then try and remember stuff,

541
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: you'll remember it better because your body says, whatever I

542
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: just ran for, I need to remember this. So there's

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00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: a whole lot of things just by getting out and

544
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Speaker 2: just even simply walking but for a period of time

545
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Speaker 2: forty to forty five minutes, and then as you increase

546
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: that intensity, it's good lifting weights. There's also a different

547
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: pathway of benefits as well that increase brain growth and

548
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: the factors that support that too, so stronger and fitter,

549
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: fantastic and even more flexible, so stretching mobility, and this

550
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: is where yogic practices. Stretching generally, it particularly combined with

551
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: breathing mind body connection, significantly increases the immune system, significantly

552
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Speaker 2: decreases stress. It also unwinds the tension in muscle and fashia,

553
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: and if that's unwound, then you don't have signals going

554
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Speaker 2: from your body up to your brain to say there's

555
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Speaker 2: something wrong. It actually decreases the stress and the signaling

556
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Speaker 2: of stress that goes to your brain, so it can

557
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: focus on the stuff that it wants to do, not

558
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: on managing stress. So the whole gamut of movement is

559
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: going to powerfully, directly grigrow your brain. And the best

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Speaker 2: story that I know about this, and then I'll switch

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Speaker 2: to the next one, is the Sea Squirt. I don't

562
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Speaker 2: know if any ever heard of the Sea Squirt. This

563
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: is the story in Sparking, a great book John J. Rady. Anyway,

564
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Speaker 2: I don't make money off the sales of these books.

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Speaker 2: I just loved it. The sea squirt starts with four

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Speaker 2: hundred neurons when it's a mobile little thing. These are

567
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Speaker 2: like those those little things that attached to the coral

568
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Speaker 2: and they open and shut their mouth. At the start

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Speaker 2: of their life, they're like a little sport, and then

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Speaker 2: they have a little brain and they're motoring around. As

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Speaker 2: soon as they find a nice bit of coral or

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Speaker 2: rock to patch onto, they do that. They latch on.

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Speaker 2: And then the first thing that they do when they

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Speaker 2: are no longer going to move for the rest of

575
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: their life is it consumes its brain. So the neurons

576
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: that was useful during movement are now no longer useful,

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: and our brain is very much the same. If you

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00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: are increasing sedentary activity, if you are not using your

579
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: brain to progress your passions, and use your natural strengths

580
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: and various things like that. Then your brain will consume

581
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: itself and then it will have less capacity. So there's

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00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: a very direct correlation. If you use it, it gets

583
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: bigger and stronger, and if you use it in the

584
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: right way, even better. Again, but if you don't use it,

585
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: it will disintegrate. And if you don't use your muscles,

586
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: it will disintegrate as well. And so wow, we've now

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Speaker 2: got this dom to pause there or you're going to

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Speaker 2: keep rolling? No, great, all right, very good, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll go. I'm just conscious that I love Tata chatting

590
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: about this stuff. So the next thing is food. The

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Speaker 2: food that you eat really matters. So obviously your brain matter.

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00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: It's not just making, it's not just magicing itself into life.

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00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: It is actually comprised of fuels. And so when you

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Speaker 2: particularly in this where amiga trees, amiga threes are a

595
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: very important part of the outer lining of your sheet,

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00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: the milin sheath, and that's what makes the neurons very

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00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: flexible as they develop. So if you've just got a

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00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: diet really rich in saturated fats, the way that the

599
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: neurons develop is more stiff because saturated fats are harder

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00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: and stiffer, whereas amiga threes make them very flexible and pliable,

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Speaker 2: so they have a better chance to survive as they grow.

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: But it's also a very important constituent as part of

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00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: that tissue. We also know that antioxidants, like in your

604
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: fruits and vegetables and your supergreens and all of those

605
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: types of things. They are absolutely pivotal in reducing stress

606
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: that comes from just thinking. You know, there's oxidative stress,

607
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: and that can degrade your brain tissue. So they go

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: in there and they reduce that. They can also protect

609
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: little baby neurons as they're growing and protect the particular

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00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: regions of your brain. Hydration is going to be very

611
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: very important, and there are a lot of other nutrients

612
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: as well that are going to be key for proper

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: brain functioning. Your B vitamins, and there's big differences in

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Speaker 2: the way that we process and produce dopamines and are adrenalines,

615
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: these focus hormones, and understanding the nutrients that are appropriate

616
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: for that is very helpful. But B vitamins, Vitamin B,

617
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, generally all of the essential vitamins and minerals

618
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: are also key for this brain tissue as well. So

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Speaker 2: and we know that as soon as you start eating

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Speaker 2: foods that are charred, lots of high sugar, high saturator fats,

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Speaker 2: highly processed, that brings in its own damaging compounds into

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Speaker 2: the brain and then it reduces the ability for the

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Speaker 2: tissues to grow. And as I say this, I just

624
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Speaker 2: almost want to vomit. You know about me talking about

625
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: junk food at the start of the session, But you know,

626
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: this is just the reality of things. You get about

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Speaker 2: moving and a lot of those evils are managed a

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00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: little bit. So, but essentially, the more of that food

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Speaker 2: that you put in, the more strain you put onto

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00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: your system, the worse it's going to go. So this

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Speaker 2: is where some individuals will do really well with six

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Speaker 2: meals per day because their brain is just firing along

633
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: at such a speed that those regular meals actually bring

634
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: them down into rest and calm, whereas another person, their

635
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: brain doesn't operate firing along, It works along steadily and rhythmically.

636
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: And they also have that We often find those individuals

637
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: have blood sugar issues and so they need to have

638
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: less frequent meals with lighter dinners for example, so and

639
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: more plant based. So there's different meal frequencies. But this

640
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: is also another very important part of our system and

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00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: that this is where mindfulness comes in as well. So

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00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: we've got exercise and food and sleep, but then also

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00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: the practice of active recovery throughout the day, so mindful practices.

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00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: But it's a regulation of the sympathetic and power sympathetic

645
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: nervous system. Now, for general people out there, sympathetic is

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Speaker 2: there's something that I've got to be up for, so

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Speaker 2: i mobile all my energy, I get really alert, and

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Speaker 2: I'm firing into things. I've got to take care of

649
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: all of this stuff, so my brain's going to be

650
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: alert and firing. Or when you're running away from something

651
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: or just running, generally there's sympathetic nervous system, whereas parasympathetic

652
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: is I'm chill, I'm calm, I'm eating, I'm digesting, I'm

653
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: feeling good. And everyone knows when you try and combine

654
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: both of those things, you get a stitch. If you're

655
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: trying to rest and digest while you're trying to run,

656
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: you get a stitch. So this is you can't have

657
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: both of those systems working together. So one of the

658
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: biggest things about our brain is that if you're using

659
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: it all day long, and overcaffeinating, which is essentially just

660
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: turning allowing your brain to dial up its energy and

661
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: it's not adrenals to stay focused. If you don't get

662
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: an appropriate amount of recovery, this is where you can

663
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: degrade your brain as well, just by overuse of it.

664
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: And everybody knows this. It's just like, oh, I just

665
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: feel so flattened at the end of the day between

666
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: six and eight, my brain is completely dead. I can't

667
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: do anything with it. I've got no tolerance for the kids.

668
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: And this is essentially with maybe overcaffeinated. We've pushed too hard,

669
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: we've been on alert, too worried, too panicked about our

670
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: life or whatever it might be, all day long, putting

671
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 2: on a mask at work to say, oh, I'm totally

672
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: competent and amazing at everything. This is very, very draining

673
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: for the brain. And we see for some individuals, you know,

674
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: you can tell by the way that I speak. It's

675
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: for individuals like me that are one hundred percent on

676
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: all of the time. The rest and recovery, like mindful

677
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: practices like breathing, like yoga, like meditation, all of these

678
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: are absolutely key at particular times in the day. And

679
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: that particular time differs for different people to allow your

680
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: brain to recover, to refuel. Otherwise, the stress that you

681
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: place on your brain can degrade the tissue as well.

682
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: So that's for to start with. And then you know

683
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: your relationships, your environment, your work. If they're not aligned

684
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 2: with who you are, or if you're not growing through those,

685
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: then there's just background stress as well, and we can

686
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: talk about those another time. They would be the they'd

687
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: be the few keys that I'd be focusing on straight away.

688
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: That's amazing. A couple of specific questions. One and there's

689
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: no I know there's no answer to this, but a

690
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: guideline or your thoughts on caffeine consumption. Yes, very good,

691
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: and I know it depends on weight and genetics, and

692
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: that's fine.

693
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: Easy one. It's easy one. You wait, wait two to

694
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: three hours after you wake up. A lot of people

695
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: say ninety minutes. Cubanman says ninety minutes. I like the

696
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: first coffee at around about ten as a rule, and

697
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: this is for most people. This is because you naturally

698
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: so the starting at ten. If you are drinking coffee

699
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: all day long, I'll take eight o'clock. But a couple

700
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: of hours ninety minutes after you wake up, and then

701
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: you've got to stop at one to two pm. Generally,

702
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: if you are relying on coffee to stay awake, then

703
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: your energy sucks. All coffee's doing is it says, oh, no,

704
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: you're not tired. You can keep going, and then it

705
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: makes you more alert at the same time, even if

706
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: you've got less energy. So you might have less energy,

707
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: but your brain says, no, I feel good, so that

708
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: it creates some psychological resilience to allow you yourself to

709
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: keep going. But it's artificial, and it will mean that

710
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: you crash harder at the end. Because caffeine stays in

711
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: your body for at least eight hours, can be up

712
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: to twenty four hours with half life and things like that.

713
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: You want to make sure that you are eight hours

714
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: clear from your bedtime when you have your last coffee. Generally,

715
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: caffeine itself is not bad. It depends on a source.

716
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: You know. Having caffeine tablets is very different to the

717
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: caffeine and green tea, where there's some balancing agents and

718
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: adaptogens that actually smooth. Caffeine by itself constricts your art

719
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: trees and makes you more attentive. Caffeine and green tea

720
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: opens up your ar trees to create better blood flow,

721
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: but also creates attention. And so it's a calm focus.

722
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: And that is flow, that is happiness, that is love,

723
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: is calm attention. So anything that's supporting you to be

724
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: calm and attentive is great because that's where that's where

725
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: the magic is going to be, and that's where the

726
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: right rhythms through the day is going to have a

727
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: big impact as well.

728
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: See if I think you and I need to get

729
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: some grown tea.

730
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: I drink green tea sometimes, do you.

731
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to go. But I've got one random

732
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: a rando. Here's a rando for you. I don't know

733
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: if you even know the answer to this or you

734
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: have any insight into this, but a bloke that Tiff

735
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: knows and I know, whose name may or may not

736
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: be the crab, who is a walking experiment who's been

737
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: experimenting on himself in a million different ways for about

738
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: forty years, has taken to recently the bloke that doesn't smoke.

739
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: Should I say this, Oh fuck it, throw him under

740
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: the bus. No, yeah, he's quite open about it. No,

741
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: we're not talking steroids or anything like that. But he's

742
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: taken to wearing a seven milligram nicotine patch on his

743
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: shoulder every day because he's been researching all the cognitive

744
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: and eutropic benefits of nicotine, which I've had a bit

745
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: of a scoot around myself. There's I'm not saying it's

746
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: healthy or good for you, but there does seem to

747
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: be something in it. So what are your thoughts.

748
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's a it's a central nervous system stimulator. It's

749
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: activating your sympathetic nervous system, which is great because it

750
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: makes you focus, it makes you attend to better things,

751
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: but it still requires rest. So it's good. And it's

752
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: not one of the strategies that I go for with people.

753
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: But I suggesting it at all anyone.

754
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no. But at the end of the day, like

755
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: anything that makes you feel more weight, just by putting

756
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: a chemical into your body is just signaling to your

757
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: brain pay attention. That's it. And probably one of my

758
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: most favorite experiments of all time, and this won't take

759
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: too long, is people that have been given dopamine pills,

760
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: and they're people that aren't given dopamine pills and people

761
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: that are. So they put these people in a sweatsuit.

762
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: This like rubber suit that's mega hot, and they essentially

763
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: wanted them to exercise until they lost as much. Just

764
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: exercise as much as they can until they overheat. That

765
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: was the goal of the study. And what they found

766
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: is that people normally would get to about thirty eight

767
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: degrees and say I'm out. This is dangerous. I feel terrible.

768
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: I've almost passed passed out off my bike. Then people

769
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: are given dopamine don't mean reuptake inhibitors, which has similarity

770
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: to some medications that we provide children. By the way,

771
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: I just note that, And then they made them do

772
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: the experiment again. They got to forty degrees of body temperature,

773
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: that's almost hospitalization fever, and they said, how are you feeling?

774
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: Oh great, I could keep going, but they had to

775
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: stop them because it was now going to be very,

776
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: very dangerous their health. Because when you've got enough dopamine,

777
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: you just go whatever I'm doing, this is the best.

778
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: You feel so good that you don't experience the pain.

779
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: And so anything like caffeine, like nicotine, like any name

780
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: your drug that stimulates your brain that puts you into action,

781
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: there is a cost to you spending that energy and

782
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: that cost must be repaid in nourishment, in rest and recovery.

783
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: So if you're going to start playing with those things,

784
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: then make sure that you have got your rest and

785
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: recovery on lock. Otherwise you don't get the benefits of

786
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: all of this extra attentive. Like, that's the crazy thing

787
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: about it.

788
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: There's so many people now more. I mean, I can't

789
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: prove this, but it like, maybe it's just some people

790
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: I've talked to, but I talk to a fair few students,

791
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are using basic anti narcolepsy

792
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: drugs like provigial modafino, all of these things that like

793
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: a lot, not a few, Like I reckon, I know

794
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: thirty people who use stimulants to focus and stay awake

795
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: and optimize in inverted commas, nudge nudge their brain.

796
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bloody. It's this search for the magic pill,

797
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: and it'll be gold for a while, and then your

798
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: brain will get very, very tired and you either get

799
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: sick or you break down or you keep upping the dose.

800
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: But there is a cost to all of these things,

801
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: and they can be used really really safely if you're

802
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: just supporting your brain to actually use the energy that

803
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: you're asking of it as well. It's just like seeing

804
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: your kid a little bit tired and then you just

805
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: hit them hard. You know, just keep going, You'll be sweet.

806
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Just hit them a bit harder. It's just like saying, oh, no,

807
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: this is really important, I keep going otherwise it's really hurt.

808
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, no worries. It's like, this is what

809
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: we're doing to our brain. We're just hitting it hard

810
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: to say pay attention, stay away, No, I no, you're tired,

811
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: forget about that. Stay away like it's not constructive and

812
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: quite destructive unless you're taking really good measures to rest

813
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: and recover.

814
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how much we don't pay attention to

815
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: our body? All right, we've got to go. Doctor Cam.

816
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: Tell people where they can find you, follow you, connect

817
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: with you, and pay you an obscene amount of money

818
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: to work with their organization.

819
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: You can find me if you look. Just look up

820
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: doctor Cam McDonald Shay group. Just google that and my

821
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: website will pop up and it will take you to

822
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: whether you're the health professional, corporate, workplace, school, jim, whatever

823
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: you do, where we're working with everybody in precision health

824
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: and making sure everyone can get the right things for

825
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: them because all of that stuff that I just shared,

826
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: even green tea is not suitable for some people. So

827
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: it's worth finding out, actually, what's going to be your

828
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: mixture that supports you to get into your best space.

829
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Does having a whippet and a cat improve cognitive function?

830
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: I just don't want to talk about that stuff online

831
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: and just throw Tiff under the bus with it all.

832
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: But she's look she seems happy enough, so I'm glad

833
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: for her in the

834
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Doc, Thanks Tiff.