Speaker 1: Well, Coop, like when Galvin to the Dogs, we spotted
Speaker 1: that up Nobbies a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: What do you make of it?
Speaker 1: Honestly, well, I'm not surprised by it. I'm surprised how
Speaker 1: quickly this has all happened. And so they said the
Speaker 1: movie is imminent, They've got to buy this weekend. He'll
Speaker 1: make his debut if they pick him in first grade
Speaker 1: coops against ironically against Paramatta, the team that he had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to and knock back.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what to make of it because if
Speaker 2: you look at their list now, like Sexton, Burton, Galvin
Speaker 2: man Hey, there's a lot of a lot of ball hands,
Speaker 2: the way they play. There's a lot of noise around
Speaker 2: Galvin for a young kid, and I think I don't
Speaker 2: know if surrender do you think he plays in New
Speaker 2: South Wales Cup? Would you put him straight back in? Well,
Speaker 2: I would too, yeah, because there's so much noise around
Speaker 2: this kid. I don't know what's right. I don't know
Speaker 2: what's wrong. But if you're in part of the team
Speaker 2: that's on top of the ladder doing all these things
Speaker 2: that a team first mentality has right now for the Dogs,
Speaker 2: they are besides what happened recently, what they're doing. Geez,
Speaker 2: you got to earn your stripes to be in that team.
Speaker 1: I think it says a lot. I think it says
Speaker 1: a lot about the club. But also it's what Saldo
Speaker 1: and Gus are saying to the team. If they may
Speaker 1: lockey go through New South Will's Cup and Ernie's jersey.
Speaker 2: I would like that. I think that is the right
Speaker 2: path if he comes straight in over the top. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure where he plays, what the style of plays,
Speaker 2: and where who fits.
Speaker 1: In the g Let's imagine he doesn't play New South
Speaker 1: Wales Cup, so he either plays six thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing fourteen. But okay, but that's Bailey Hayward's role.
Speaker 2: Who's been very good.
Speaker 1: He's been very very good. There's been noise constantly around Toby.
Speaker 1: Toby Sexton, who has been very good the last twelve months,
Speaker 1: had a couple of poor performances recently. But you know,
Speaker 1: you just don't throw a black and okay in the
Speaker 1: trash can who's been good from period of time on
Speaker 1: a couple of on the back of a couple of
Speaker 1: poor performances. So I don't exactly know where they're going
Speaker 1: to place him. I see him as a sixth in
Speaker 1: the next eighteen months. I see him as eventually as
Speaker 1: a thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he can play seven right now.
Speaker 2: No decision making, kicking game temperament. There's a few things
Speaker 2: that Toby Sex is doing well that compliments what the
Speaker 2: Dogs are doing. Could he play seven? Look Sirealdo has
Speaker 2: a history of working with Nathan Cleary. He's done a
Speaker 2: good job with Sexton to get to him to where
Speaker 2: he is. So I'm not going to say that he can't,
Speaker 2: but he's going to need a lot of mentorship over
Speaker 2: the next two three years before you even consider that, right,
Speaker 2: So what do they do now? That's that's a trigger situation.
Speaker 1: You know, Coops, It's actually an opportunity for Toby. Toby
Speaker 1: be looking at the moment going, oh jeez, you know
Speaker 1: he's coming to assist meets the end of me with
Speaker 1: all the noise and the fact he hasn't been offered
Speaker 1: a new contract. But if the Galvin was to come
Speaker 1: go to the Bulldogs slip into the six, Jersey Burton
Speaker 1: moved somewhere else and he in sext and started, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know you Crichton and Cherry there, I don't
Speaker 1: know where they I don't see I don't see Burton's
Speaker 1: full that people are saying they could play fullback. I
Speaker 1: think kind of Tracy has been fantastic there, But I
Speaker 1: just don't see Burton express enough to play to play fullback.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. But if he was to go
Speaker 1: into the six Jersey and I'm talking about like a
Speaker 1: Galvin here and he and Sex and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden throwing up this fantastic partnership and they go on
Speaker 1: to run, well, you know, for Toby, that might that
Speaker 1: might be the thing that actually gets in the new contract.
Speaker 2: If I was talking to Toby Sex and I would
Speaker 2: be saying, don't focus on anything that's being said or
Speaker 2: what you think. Focus on the things you've done well,
Speaker 2: because what you've done well is the point of difference
Speaker 2: to Galvin right now. So keep doing that and force
Speaker 2: the dogs to find another option. Yeah, because he is
Speaker 2: the only one at the moment who can provide that piece.
Speaker 1: When when the dust settles in a month's time, what
Speaker 1: do you think, how does that puzzle settle? I think
Speaker 1: I think Burton plays somewhere else. I don't know whether
Speaker 1: it's the only.
Speaker 2: Other one is is Yeah, maybe it's thirteen because he
Speaker 2: is a big body, strong defensive.
Speaker 1: Begin to do it, Kurt Man, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe crighton the fullback Burton to the centers, Like there's
Speaker 2: a lot to move around.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Crichton situation, it's possible. When he originally
Speaker 1: went to the Dogs, that was talking he was going
Speaker 1: to play full back. I like him in the center
Speaker 1: because he's the best defensive, one of the best defensives.
Speaker 2: He's the best, the best center in the game right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So AnyWho, it'll settle. Yeah, we'll find it. I
Speaker 1: just want to make before what we're going to do,
Speaker 1: we're going to touch on Origin a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: we did it last week. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: in focus. I'm going to focus on I'm going to
Speaker 1: have a look at Lorie Daly's playing career in Origin.
Speaker 1: Before we do that, I wanted to I want to
Speaker 1: give a young player, the young fullback at Paramatta. This
Speaker 1: bloke is a really, really special player. We're seeing it
Speaker 1: more and more every week. I just want to show
Speaker 1: you something from the game. It's actually my Jumblow Jack
Speaker 1: who saw this and he called me and said, just
Speaker 1: check this out, a really important part of the game
Speaker 1: in the second half. Look at this chase bang and
Speaker 1: hits Turbo gets the first market. You watch this next
Speaker 1: hit bang, like the physicality and then he finds himself
Speaker 1: at marker again and he goes for another one. Now
Speaker 1: at this point, fullbacks usually send the wingers back, but
Speaker 1: he gets back on his bike to protect the forty twenty.
Speaker 1: If they're going for it, takes it. And what's the
Speaker 1: physicality in this run? Again? They like, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff you don't pick up in the game. Mainly
Speaker 1: you pick up the flash stuff. But that says a
Speaker 1: lot about.
Speaker 2: That they're the one percent. Is that you could grow
Speaker 2: a lot of X factor skills and he's already got
Speaker 2: the X factor skills. So I love that he is
Speaker 2: underpinning that footwork and the speed that he's got with
Speaker 2: that hard nosed approach because he was brilliant on the week,
Speaker 2: like what he delivered for that team, toughness, safety, smart,
Speaker 2: try scoring like he was very good. And while you
Speaker 2: spotted that from Iongi, I'm going to raise it and
Speaker 2: see what the Sharks did against the Roosters. And in
Speaker 2: fanel Blake big noise around him in a big game
Speaker 2: against the Roosters who are origin affected. This is his
Speaker 2: first effort. This is the first set of the game.
Speaker 2: I just want you to watch Fanila Blake here, he's
Speaker 2: out the back of play. The Roosters are down players,
Speaker 2: Sharks come off a big win against Melbourne. They need
Speaker 2: to start fast and knock the Roosters out of confidence.
Speaker 2: And this is the effort of Foranila Bloke. We've just
Speaker 2: showed Iongi how hard he worked for his team and
Speaker 2: got the rewards. And here's Fanil Blake, who's been brilliant
Speaker 2: this year, but most of his brilliant work as we
Speaker 2: been with ball in him. So that moment there, I
Speaker 2: think Craig Fitzgibven will spot and say, hey, you need
Speaker 2: to set the standard from the beginning. Because when Fanila
Speaker 2: Blake gets it right and the Sharks were coming against
Speaker 2: the Roosters in that second half, I'll show you another
Speaker 2: bit of play. Here, steams onto the football like he
Speaker 2: shot out of a gun, creates chaos in the Rooster's
Speaker 2: defensive line. And what happens Tunle goes down the other
Speaker 2: side double pump play. So I think Craig Fitzgibbons got
Speaker 2: a bit of work to do with Phil Blake off
Speaker 2: the ball. His efforts and intensity can be influential for
Speaker 2: the Sharks to keep going up the ladder.
Speaker 1: Probably encapsulated the performance from the Sharks. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: were off just when you're starting to really go right
Speaker 1: out here we going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they shouldn't have had that effort, considering what they
Speaker 2: did against Melbourne the week before, and off the back
Speaker 2: of that you picked up Halia Seima and some train
Speaker 2: spotting stuff a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I did left handed, left hand carry right hand,
Speaker 1: play the ball.
Speaker 2: Well, Tarban has been watching this show and he's gone,
Speaker 2: Matthew John's watched this right hand, Yes, play the ball.
Speaker 2: Love it?
Speaker 1: Hey, love it. I'll sit with that, yes, because he's
Speaker 1: in for the show in to May, and I'll watching
Speaker 1: HALLI Suma. I just kept saying, happy, happy, watch his
Speaker 1: left hand carry right hand for I think happy was
Speaker 1: thinking it is this plog place, which was.
Speaker 2: So any players out there that watch the show, just
Speaker 2: a bit of left hand right action, play the ball
Speaker 2: of whatever?
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you had a game? You know?
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't do it. And I
Speaker 2: suggest you can't either.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now in focus state of origin. We gave our
Speaker 1: predictions last week. Anything changed is what you think about.
Speaker 2: Well, I still think months through is the key for Queensland.
Speaker 2: I still think there'll be some points scored. One thing
Speaker 2: I will say is thinking about, like, what's going to
Speaker 2: happen in this game. New South Wales won that play
Speaker 2: game won the series with one play at the back
Speaker 2: end of last year, and it's would have sat with
Speaker 2: Billy for long period time. I know how Billy reacts
Speaker 2: to things, and he'd be sitting in his bunker analyzing
Speaker 2: every Queensland play but also picking apart New South Wales
Speaker 2: and big games. Billy loved to come up with a player,
Speaker 2: a trick shot, something that just threw the opposition out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it will be, but I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure he'll come up with something, either the game plan
Speaker 2: or a trick shot that will sort of try and
Speaker 2: roffle the feathers of New South Wales. So keep an
Speaker 2: eye on that. But I still think Munster. I think
Speaker 2: twenty two fourteen Queensland. I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: an entertaining game.
Speaker 1: Will be entertaining a game, and earlier today Stephen Crichton
Speaker 1: left training, had a nice bag and he's quad, so
Speaker 1: we'll find out there. That's a nervous way. He's such
Speaker 1: an important player. That combination Latrell, Mitchell and Stephen Crichton,
Speaker 1: as far as centers, it's as good as it gets.
Speaker 2: Look, they dominate. Do you think Latrell and Steven Kricht
Speaker 2: is the point of difference?
Speaker 1: I do. I think they're dominate.
Speaker 2: I'm worried. I'm worried.
Speaker 1: Look, it's a great combination given the way that Nathan
Speaker 1: has been playing. If you watch the way Penwth has
Speaker 1: been playing of late and how straight Nathan's been playing,
Speaker 1: and like he's been playing so straight, he's been just
Speaker 1: basically perling an opposition in short and giving his outside
Speaker 1: men so much time and space. With Latrell and Cryton
Speaker 1: vis that's yeah, that's a big opportunity there.
Speaker 2: Clearing and Moses can connect and condense the middle part
Speaker 2: of the defense and create just space for Latrell and Crichton.
Speaker 2: I think Hammer and Rob Toyer need to almost have
Speaker 2: the toy's debut game, but the best defensive performers ever.
Speaker 1: Had you mentioned Billy? I want to talk about Lurie,
Speaker 1: not Laurie's coaching, his playing career. A lot of younger
Speaker 1: people who come to the game don't remember Laurie as
Speaker 1: a player and what he did for New South Wales
Speaker 1: as a player. I think when you're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about Queensland, I took with the greatest
Speaker 1: Queensland players is of course Wally Lewis, of course Cameron Smith.
Speaker 1: When it gets to New South Wales, there's blokes at there.
Speaker 1: Joey spoken about Bradley, Clyde, Brett, Kenny, Freddie Mate. I
Speaker 1: put Lourie just about the top. He's contribution in New
Speaker 1: South Wales and basically changing like Queensland dominated for so
Speaker 1: long throughout the eighties, but the emergence of those young
Speaker 1: guys from the Green Machine that Canberra era really swung
Speaker 1: up back in New South Whil's way and Laurie tippified
Speaker 1: that he came in. It was funny. His first series
Speaker 1: was in eighty nine right and the great Jack Gibson
Speaker 1: was coaching the New South Wales side. Jack knew you
Speaker 1: had this kid who was developing. It was going to
Speaker 1: be a legend of the game. He just missed it
Speaker 1: by twelve months because when he come in Laurie that
Speaker 1: first series, he was really struggled. He talks of I've
Speaker 1: spoken to him. I interviewed him about it, and I said,
Speaker 1: that first series in eighty nine bad memories, he said,
Speaker 1: most terrible. He said, I went in so naive, not
Speaker 1: knowing what Origin was about. He was nineteen years of age,
Speaker 1: and he said, I was playing center opposite my mentor,
Speaker 1: my hero, my teammate, my captain, Malmaninger. And he said naively,
Speaker 1: I went into that game believe him Mal would take
Speaker 1: it easier. And he said he he just completely completely
Speaker 1: humiliated loss, you know. Talking about his trajectory as a player.
Speaker 1: The big turning point for Laurie, I think he's breakouts
Speaker 1: as far as being a representative player was City versus
Speaker 1: Country nineteen ninety and Country were beaten by two points,
Speaker 1: but Laurie absolutely tore City to shreds and after the
Speaker 1: game it was like mate, it was everything changed. He
Speaker 1: went into State of Origin that year ninety ninety and
Speaker 1: dominated Queensland in the first game. But the big one
Speaker 1: when Phil goirled. The big rise with Laurie coops come
Speaker 1: when Phil Gould was coach. Gus recognized straight away that
Speaker 1: Laurie's got to be my captain. He elevated him's captain.
Speaker 1: But I love this story when you talk about Gus
Speaker 1: spoke to him about what did you learn from that
Speaker 1: first series? Tell me about that first series, and he
Speaker 1: told Gus the story about playing against Mail and Phil
Speaker 1: Mali take it easier. I mean how he humiliated him. Anyway,
Speaker 1: when he made Laurie captain, he said, they're playing a
Speaker 1: game at lang Park. It's a big game. Got to
Speaker 1: be a decider, and he said, I've been the call
Speaker 1: to tap on the tap in the dressing room. Mate,
Speaker 1: come out. The captain's out to toss the coin, and
Speaker 1: Mal is the captain of Corny's land. Anyway, Gus grabbed
Speaker 1: him and said this is your time. He said, go
Speaker 1: and hide in the toilet. Let Mal wait for you
Speaker 1: out there. So he said, Maol was forced to wait
Speaker 1: outside Lorry's hiding in the toilet as a power play.
Speaker 1: Mail is just standing out there, made him wait five
Speaker 1: minutes and then strolled out. And it was just a statement.
Speaker 1: He said, Mao was filthy and mal knew exactly what
Speaker 1: he was doing. And then he turned went back into
Speaker 1: the sheds. It was a Turning Point and Lorry that
Speaker 1: ninety four series, Laurie completely dominated it to the fact
Speaker 1: that Coops they won. I don't know if it was decided,
Speaker 1: but they won Game three in a really tough game
Speaker 1: at the Sydney Football Stadium and Lorry scored a key
Speaker 1: try late. And remember talking to Paul Harrigan the next day,
Speaker 1: who was a skipper at Newcastle. He played in that game,
Speaker 1: and it was myself and out of me and we
Speaker 1: have a lunch with Chief. I said, this is a
Speaker 1: tough game. It said, yeah, really tough. And I said,
Speaker 1: you know, how did you feel through the game? You know,
Speaker 1: like when they were on top? Did you think we win?
Speaker 1: He said, on you would win? I said, why did
Speaker 1: you know your win? He said because we had Lori
Speaker 1: daily And I think that that says it all.
Speaker 2: It's funny, like my history Lesson of Origin. You mentioned
Speaker 2: about MAO and I always wanted to play Origin, but
Speaker 2: I didn't play until twenty ten. So I was still
Speaker 2: playing first grade for a few years and everyone else
Speaker 2: would pack there, but I go Thrid and I'd stay behind.
Speaker 2: It started cutting me and I wanted for Ego to
Speaker 2: be a part of it, right, So I just all
Speaker 2: I thought about was Origin was the best game of
Speaker 2: the year, and I just wanted to play in it.
Speaker 2: So it was self driven and egotistical about I get
Speaker 2: into Origin Camp twenty ten for my Deboom and Mao
Speaker 2: talks about the history of Origin, where the concept of
Speaker 2: Queensland started in nineteen eighty and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: it became more powerful than just me. So I'm talking about, like,
Speaker 2: why does Queensland rise when they playing them own jerseys
Speaker 2: because quick history lesson. Prior to nineteen eighty, it was
Speaker 2: always about where you played, right, So all the good
Speaker 2: players of queens then moved to New South Wales represented Queensland.
Speaker 2: They played in the state game and New South Wales
Speaker 2: would smash Queensland fifty zeril every game yep, and the
Speaker 2: Queenslander's got smashed. It wasn't until nineteen eighty when they
Speaker 2: changed the rules of where you're born. Arthur beats in
Speaker 2: that first scrum. He's playing reserve grade for Paramatter at
Speaker 2: the time. Packs In McCrone is the gun player for
Speaker 2: paramatter at the time for New South Wales get stuck
Speaker 2: into him and that is mate verse mate state Verse State.
Speaker 2: Mal brought that story up. So the power of that
Speaker 2: Queensland Jersey. Why did Queenslanders get Origin? It's because of
Speaker 2: that history, lesson of the past and playing for the future.
Speaker 1: And I lived through that coup, like you know, growing up,
Speaker 1: following when I was a young kid in the seventies
Speaker 1: watching New South well, when the interstate games came around,
Speaker 1: we would annihilate Queensland. And I still remember, I still
Speaker 1: remember the first set of Origin game. I was living
Speaker 1: in Newcastle. We didn't get the game televised and I
Speaker 1: don't believe I'm listening to it on the radio and
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Queensland just belders and I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: said to my dad, what's going on? Like you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the concept. But watching you back later,
Speaker 1: like I'll get goose pumps, watching Arthur boots and run
Speaker 1: on the field like the returning hero. I heard Chris
Speaker 1: Cloves tell a story. Was Gordy as it was Gordy
Speaker 1: relaying the story. The only difference was choppy story where
Speaker 1: for two minutes and Gordy's breath for two hours. But
Speaker 1: he sold. He told Gordy, he said, I'm a young
Speaker 1: guy sitting there and he said in the next locker
Speaker 1: to me or sitting next to me is Arthur. And
Speaker 1: he said, Arthur's just sitting there really quiet. And Arthur's
Speaker 1: got all these tapes, doing all his own taping, and
Speaker 1: he's strapping his fingers up and he said. I looked
Speaker 1: at him and said, mate, this guy's going to war
Speaker 1: like he was a warrior going to war and man
Speaker 1: a contribution. So often, coops, you're just talking there about
Speaker 1: the history and the history that like think you blokes
Speaker 1: are taught when you go into camp and how important
Speaker 1: that is for you blokes, and oftentimes that's the reason
Speaker 1: why you blokes going into a series, you win the
Speaker 1: battle of the narrative. That makes sense, You win that battle,
Speaker 1: like played in the game where that that series fatties
Speaker 1: Queensland as a ninety five and we went into county
Speaker 1: when that guy apologize to the studio audience. We've got
Speaker 1: a studio awardens three viewers have made the trip to
Speaker 1: our time and to watch us and howdy ah. But
Speaker 1: I so we had like a gun team, even though
Speaker 1: Super League players weren't selected, were gun site, you know,
Speaker 1: Freddie and Chief and someone and of course Stop John's
Speaker 1: Stop New South Wales anyway.
Speaker 2: Why do you for yourself?
Speaker 1: That was this funny turn of phrase anyway, But we
Speaker 1: went in there and we were I've heard Gus talk
Speaker 1: about this after they Queensland beat the series and so
Speaker 1: what was the difference? He said? Our blokes turned up
Speaker 1: into camp trying to show each other how skillful they were,
Speaker 1: and the Queensland has turned up trying to show each
Speaker 1: other how tough they were and coops. That first night
Speaker 1: at the Sydney Football Stadium, I remember, I think, and
Speaker 1: I was right, did the warm up felt good? You know?
Speaker 1: Run onto the field and I'm standing there right and
Speaker 1: I look over as Queensland run on and I see
Speaker 1: my teammate Robbie O Davis and there was just something
Speaker 1: different about him, and at that point I thought we
Speaker 1: won't be in trouble here. There was just something. There
Speaker 1: was an extra layer of intensity in that term.
Speaker 2: So there's not a huge gap there was in ninety five.
Speaker 2: But there's some similarities. And the example will be paying
Speaker 2: us and Patrick Carrighan. Yeah, like that will be an example.
Speaker 2: Paying us runs out of the field a bunch of
Speaker 2: Patrick Carrighan is not Yeah, high five of him saying goody, you.
Speaker 1: Be one big great classroom too. Yeah, it's a big
Speaker 1: one for cubs. We're gonna do a bit of the
Speaker 1: health check on the competition here and when we you know,
Speaker 1: it's been all about origin here, we might split it
Speaker 1: in two. We'll do a few of the teams now
Speaker 1: and a few of them next week. But let's start.
Speaker 1: We'll go from the bottom up to the top. And
Speaker 1: usually the bottom teams it's usually very straightforward. They're having
Speaker 1: a blood er every year and they're not going to
Speaker 1: make the finals. There's a couple of them, but there are,
Speaker 1: But it's Penrith. What are you thinking?
Speaker 2: They are in seventeenth on nine points. The Broncos are
Speaker 2: in eighth on twelve points. In the next period of time,
Speaker 2: they play the Eels twice, the Tigers twice. They've got
Speaker 2: two buyers. They've got the Titans, Knights and Souths. There's
Speaker 2: a couple of other big games of worries.
Speaker 1: They're going to creep in.
Speaker 2: I've got them here finishing eighth. You agree, I do agree.
Speaker 1: I do agree. We've said this before. If they can
Speaker 1: creep into the eight, they can win the camp Coops.
Speaker 1: My prediction is I think they will creep into the eight.
Speaker 1: But I think it'll be very, very similar to when
Speaker 1: Brisbane did similar ninety nine, but they lost all those
Speaker 1: games empty and they spent the pennies getting there. I
Speaker 1: agree with that, But when you look at it also
Speaker 1: the amount of players they're going to have playing state
Speaker 1: of Origin on top of everybody everything else I've got
Speaker 1: to make in the second week of the finals.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't argue with that. I feel like
Speaker 2: I was just doing some research into this. I think
Speaker 2: they do. I think they slip into the eight. And
Speaker 2: I can't say that to too many of the other
Speaker 2: teams down the bottom of the ladder, as simple as that.
Speaker 1: What about Titans, mate, they deserve brutality in opinion. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, okay.
Speaker 2: Let's look well the Spoon Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well look at the Queen's Land side coops where this
Speaker 1: is what puzzles puzzles. We talk about this in numerous
Speaker 1: times individually. Look at the talent on that team. But
Speaker 1: let's look at the Queensland side both for more Tin, no,
Speaker 1: for the Waker, yep, anybody else in that pack that
Speaker 1: but like, that's a great pack and you are three
Speaker 1: of the Titans there mainstage of the Titans pack.
Speaker 2: I just he's their best player, Tino by a country mile.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: The one thing that I think is hurting the Titans
Speaker 2: is des has been a defensive coach for a long
Speaker 2: period of time, and history says he gets it right
Speaker 2: when he's got a good team. There's a disconnect between
Speaker 2: them doing it and his message. And the other thing
Speaker 2: I think is hurting is that the top end talent.
Speaker 2: I'm taking Tino out of this conversation, but the top
Speaker 2: end talent are either injured or they feel like they
Speaker 2: look lost on a field like they don't they're not consistent,
Speaker 2: they don't feel like they're on the same page all
Speaker 2: the time, and it's just in and out of eighty
Speaker 2: minute performances looks okay. It's just yeah, it's bad, and
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to get any better. I
Speaker 2: think Penrith go that way quickly. And I'm worried about.
Speaker 1: The Titans aside that is, you talk a big, big
Speaker 1: gulf in attitude between one side and the next. Look
Speaker 1: at the Earl's attitude compared to the Titans, and the
Speaker 1: Earls had a really difficult start to the season without
Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses. You know, Jason Royle is trying to bed
Speaker 1: down a new style of these young guys coming into
Speaker 1: the team. But I tear what they look. They look
Speaker 1: really really good at the moment.
Speaker 2: They've improved, and he cleaned out that roster at the
Speaker 2: back end of last year and now I feel like
Speaker 2: he's very reliant on the leaders Borlow Moses, throw Brown
Speaker 2: in there. But Lomax like, if those guys play well,
Speaker 2: I think the Riley Smiths and the i Is and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, they will follow. Yes, but
Speaker 2: I think it's very reliant on that leadership group to
Speaker 2: play well and get the job.
Speaker 1: I see him getting out of the bottom four. I
Speaker 1: see him moving in and around ten or eleven. I
Speaker 1: think possibly you can just see they've got their tails
Speaker 1: up at the moment. I will sure return from Origin.
Speaker 2: And I will say Dylan Walker has been very, very
Speaker 2: good for them, fantastic even on the weekend, it was
Speaker 2: great no mich and Moses stood up lots of ballplaying.
Speaker 2: I think he'd be a key piece of the puzzle
Speaker 2: for them to improve a little bit.
Speaker 1: Final one for this week, the Knights needed that win
Speaker 1: over Penrith or they would have been sitting last on
Speaker 1: the ladder right Knight's best player so far this she's been,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, being Fletcher sharp, Dylan Lucas as well.
Speaker 1: Dilan Lucas was sensational on the weekend A coops the
Speaker 1: Kaylen at fullback, at fullback and Fletcher at six. The
Speaker 1: formula wasn't quite working out there. They put Fletcher back
Speaker 1: to his preferred position playing fullback. They experimented a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago with kayl and at six it didn't work.
Speaker 1: Is it worth having a look at again?
Speaker 2: I think Kaylen no worries. The Knights are a good
Speaker 2: defensive team. They need to win games while they're going
Speaker 2: through this period on the back of their defense. If
Speaker 2: there's one simple solution for the Knights attack, and Kleen
Speaker 2: is the big piece of this. We've spoken about this
Speaker 2: previous on the show. Calen's best position is when it's
Speaker 2: four versus four down a wide short side. He has
Speaker 2: the footwork to carve up anyone right. So as simple
Speaker 2: as this is, I'm playing to that position and given
Speaker 2: Kalen four and four. Now, if they give four defenders,
Speaker 2: Kaylin take it. If they put five on Kaylen, because
Speaker 2: they're worried the rest of you. Take it. That's as
Speaker 2: simple as I can try and help them out with
Speaker 2: their attack.
Speaker 1: It's the same with Tamara Tahu. We say with Tamata
Speaker 1: you know when he was in really fire and we said, mate,
Speaker 1: look if they've got four and we've got four, give
Speaker 1: it to Mana. Actually, if they've got five, give it
Speaker 1: to Actually, if they've got six, gives I feel.
Speaker 2: Like their spine is. I know why Adam O'Brien keeps
Speaker 2: changing because there's no one grabbing the jersey, right, But
Speaker 2: you probably need to simplify in terms of trying to
Speaker 2: make this elaborate play to create space for Kaylin on
Speaker 2: the extremities, Like just where is his favorite positions in
Speaker 2: this part of the field. Where does he do all
Speaker 2: of his damage this part of the field. All right,
Speaker 2: let's design the system where he gets the ball there
Speaker 2: more often than not. That's right, And that's as simple
Speaker 2: as this that field position for defenders. Kaylin take it.
Speaker 1: What does Cooper Krong do on Origin Knights? You're going
Speaker 1: to go up to us Sun Corporal, what does it?
Speaker 1: What does an origin Knight like for you? Now?
Speaker 2: Considering that you only work two days a week, around
Speaker 2: this joint. You wouldn't understand.
Speaker 1: Two days a week double duty John's for me.
Speaker 2: You would understand the sweat, blood and tears are going
Speaker 2: into this John. I'm actually going to call the game.
Speaker 1: Called the game.
Speaker 2: So you don't even know what's going on around here.
Speaker 1: Do No, No, I don't. I'm a little that's the coops.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the thing, mate, You come in,
Speaker 1: your clock out, you go, mate, don't get caught up
Speaker 1: in office politics. If you haven't got an office, so
Speaker 1: you haven't got a computer or haven't got a chair,
Speaker 1: they don't expect you to be.
Speaker 2: You can't turn what off? That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard me yet. Well maybe it has good
Speaker 1: on your mate.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmmmm