1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Well, Coop, like when Galvin to the Dogs, we spotted 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: that up Nobbies a few weeks ago. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: What do you make of it? 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Honestly, well, I'm not surprised by it. I'm surprised how 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: quickly this has all happened. And so they said the 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: movie is imminent, They've got to buy this weekend. He'll 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: make his debut if they pick him in first grade 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: coops against ironically against Paramatta, the team that he had 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to and knock back. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what to make of it because if 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: you look at their list now, like Sexton, Burton, Galvin 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: man Hey, there's a lot of a lot of ball hands, 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: the way they play. There's a lot of noise around 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Galvin for a young kid, and I think I don't 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: know if surrender do you think he plays in New 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: South Wales Cup? Would you put him straight back in? Well, 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: I would too, yeah, because there's so much noise around 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: this kid. I don't know what's right. I don't know 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: what's wrong. But if you're in part of the team 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: that's on top of the ladder doing all these things 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: that a team first mentality has right now for the Dogs, 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: they are besides what happened recently, what they're doing. Geez, 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: you got to earn your stripes to be in that team. 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: I think it says a lot. I think it says 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot about the club. But also it's what Saldo 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: and Gus are saying to the team. If they may 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: lockey go through New South Will's Cup and Ernie's jersey. 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: I would like that. I think that is the right 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: path if he comes straight in over the top. I'm 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: not sure where he plays, what the style of plays, 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: and where who fits. 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: In the g Let's imagine he doesn't play New South 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Wales Cup, so he either plays six thirteen or fourteen. 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing fourteen. But okay, but that's Bailey Hayward's role. 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Who's been very good. 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: He's been very very good. There's been noise constantly around Toby. 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Toby Sexton, who has been very good the last twelve months, 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: had a couple of poor performances recently. But you know, 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: you just don't throw a black and okay in the 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: trash can who's been good from period of time on 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: a couple of on the back of a couple of 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: poor performances. So I don't exactly know where they're going 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: to place him. I see him as a sixth in 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: the next eighteen months. I see him as eventually as 45 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: a thirteen. 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he can play seven right now. 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: No decision making, kicking game temperament. There's a few things 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: that Toby Sex is doing well that compliments what the 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: Dogs are doing. Could he play seven? Look Sirealdo has 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: a history of working with Nathan Cleary. He's done a 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: good job with Sexton to get to him to where 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: he is. So I'm not going to say that he can't, 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: but he's going to need a lot of mentorship over 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: the next two three years before you even consider that, right, 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: So what do they do now? That's that's a trigger situation. 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: You know, Coops, It's actually an opportunity for Toby. Toby 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: be looking at the moment going, oh jeez, you know 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: he's coming to assist meets the end of me with 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: all the noise and the fact he hasn't been offered 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: a new contract. But if the Galvin was to come 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: go to the Bulldogs slip into the six, Jersey Burton 62 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: moved somewhere else and he in sext and started, well, 63 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know you Crichton and Cherry there, I don't 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: know where they I don't see I don't see Burton's 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: full that people are saying they could play fullback. I 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: think kind of Tracy has been fantastic there, But I 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: just don't see Burton express enough to play to play fullback. 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know. But if he was to go 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: into the six Jersey and I'm talking about like a 70 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Galvin here and he and Sex and all of a 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: sudden throwing up this fantastic partnership and they go on 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: to run, well, you know, for Toby, that might that 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: might be the thing that actually gets in the new contract. 74 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: If I was talking to Toby Sex and I would 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: be saying, don't focus on anything that's being said or 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: what you think. Focus on the things you've done well, 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: because what you've done well is the point of difference 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: to Galvin right now. So keep doing that and force 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: the dogs to find another option. Yeah, because he is 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: the only one at the moment who can provide that piece. 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: When when the dust settles in a month's time, what 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: do you think, how does that puzzle settle? I think 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I think Burton plays somewhere else. I don't know whether 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: it's the only. 85 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: Other one is is Yeah, maybe it's thirteen because he 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: is a big body, strong defensive. 87 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Begin to do it, Kurt Man, you know, yeah. 88 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: Maybe crighton the fullback Burton to the centers, Like there's 89 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: a lot to move around. 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean, the Crichton situation, it's possible. When he originally 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: went to the Dogs, that was talking he was going 92 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: to play full back. I like him in the center 93 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: because he's the best defensive, one of the best defensives. 94 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: He's the best, the best center in the game right now. 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, So AnyWho, it'll settle. Yeah, we'll find it. I 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: just want to make before what we're going to do, 97 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: we're going to touch on Origin a little bit. I mean, 98 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: we did it last week. We're going to talk about 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: in focus. I'm going to focus on I'm going to 100 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: have a look at Lorie Daly's playing career in Origin. 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: Before we do that, I wanted to I want to 102 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: give a young player, the young fullback at Paramatta. This 103 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: bloke is a really, really special player. We're seeing it 104 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: more and more every week. I just want to show 105 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: you something from the game. It's actually my Jumblow Jack 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: who saw this and he called me and said, just 107 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: check this out, a really important part of the game 108 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: in the second half. Look at this chase bang and 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: hits Turbo gets the first market. You watch this next 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: hit bang, like the physicality and then he finds himself 111 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: at marker again and he goes for another one. Now 112 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: at this point, fullbacks usually send the wingers back, but 113 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: he gets back on his bike to protect the forty twenty. 114 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: If they're going for it, takes it. And what's the 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: physicality in this run? Again? They like, that's a lot 116 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: of stuff you don't pick up in the game. Mainly 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: you pick up the flash stuff. But that says a 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: lot about. 119 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: That they're the one percent. Is that you could grow 120 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: a lot of X factor skills and he's already got 121 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: the X factor skills. So I love that he is 122 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: underpinning that footwork and the speed that he's got with 123 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: that hard nosed approach because he was brilliant on the week, 124 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: like what he delivered for that team, toughness, safety, smart, 125 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: try scoring like he was very good. And while you 126 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: spotted that from Iongi, I'm going to raise it and 127 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: see what the Sharks did against the Roosters. And in 128 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: fanel Blake big noise around him in a big game 129 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: against the Roosters who are origin affected. This is his 130 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: first effort. This is the first set of the game. 131 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: I just want you to watch Fanila Blake here, he's 132 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: out the back of play. The Roosters are down players, 133 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Sharks come off a big win against Melbourne. They need 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: to start fast and knock the Roosters out of confidence. 135 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: And this is the effort of Foranila Bloke. We've just 136 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: showed Iongi how hard he worked for his team and 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: got the rewards. And here's Fanil Blake, who's been brilliant 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: this year, but most of his brilliant work as we 139 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: been with ball in him. So that moment there, I 140 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: think Craig Fitzgibven will spot and say, hey, you need 141 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: to set the standard from the beginning. Because when Fanila 142 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: Blake gets it right and the Sharks were coming against 143 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: the Roosters in that second half, I'll show you another 144 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: bit of play. Here, steams onto the football like he 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: shot out of a gun, creates chaos in the Rooster's 146 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: defensive line. And what happens Tunle goes down the other 147 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: side double pump play. So I think Craig Fitzgibbons got 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: a bit of work to do with Phil Blake off 149 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: the ball. His efforts and intensity can be influential for 150 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: the Sharks to keep going up the ladder. 151 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Probably encapsulated the performance from the Sharks. Yeah, yeah, they 152 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: were off just when you're starting to really go right 153 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: out here we going. 154 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they shouldn't have had that effort, considering what they 155 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: did against Melbourne the week before, and off the back 156 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: of that you picked up Halia Seima and some train 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: spotting stuff a couple of weeks. 158 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I did left handed, left hand carry right hand, 159 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: play the ball. 160 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Well, Tarban has been watching this show and he's gone, 161 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: Matthew John's watched this right hand, Yes, play the ball. 162 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: Love it? 163 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Hey, love it. I'll sit with that, yes, because he's 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: in for the show in to May, and I'll watching 165 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: HALLI Suma. I just kept saying, happy, happy, watch his 166 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: left hand carry right hand for I think happy was 167 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: thinking it is this plog place, which was. 168 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: So any players out there that watch the show, just 169 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: a bit of left hand right action, play the ball 170 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: of whatever? 171 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you had a game? You know? 172 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't do it. And I 173 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: suggest you can't either. 174 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now in focus state of origin. We gave our 175 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: predictions last week. Anything changed is what you think about. 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: Well, I still think months through is the key for Queensland. 177 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: I still think there'll be some points scored. One thing 178 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: I will say is thinking about, like, what's going to 179 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: happen in this game. New South Wales won that play 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: game won the series with one play at the back 181 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: end of last year, and it's would have sat with 182 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: Billy for long period time. I know how Billy reacts 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: to things, and he'd be sitting in his bunker analyzing 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: every Queensland play but also picking apart New South Wales 185 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: and big games. Billy loved to come up with a player, 186 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: a trick shot, something that just threw the opposition out. 187 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what it will be, but I'm pretty 188 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: sure he'll come up with something, either the game plan 189 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: or a trick shot that will sort of try and 190 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: roffle the feathers of New South Wales. So keep an 191 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: eye on that. But I still think Munster. I think 192 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: twenty two fourteen Queensland. I think it's going to be 193 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: an entertaining game. 194 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: Will be entertaining a game, and earlier today Stephen Crichton 195 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: left training, had a nice bag and he's quad, so 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: we'll find out there. That's a nervous way. He's such 197 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: an important player. That combination Latrell, Mitchell and Stephen Crichton, 198 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: as far as centers, it's as good as it gets. 199 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: Look, they dominate. Do you think Latrell and Steven Kricht 200 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: is the point of difference? 201 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: I do. I think they're dominate. 202 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm worried. I'm worried. 203 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: Look, it's a great combination given the way that Nathan 204 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: has been playing. If you watch the way Penwth has 205 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: been playing of late and how straight Nathan's been playing, 206 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: and like he's been playing so straight, he's been just 207 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: basically perling an opposition in short and giving his outside 208 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: men so much time and space. With Latrell and Cryton 209 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: vis that's yeah, that's a big opportunity there. 210 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: Clearing and Moses can connect and condense the middle part 211 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: of the defense and create just space for Latrell and Crichton. 212 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: I think Hammer and Rob Toyer need to almost have 213 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: the toy's debut game, but the best defensive performers ever. 214 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: Had you mentioned Billy? I want to talk about Lurie, 215 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: not Laurie's coaching, his playing career. A lot of younger 216 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: people who come to the game don't remember Laurie as 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: a player and what he did for New South Wales 218 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: as a player. I think when you're talking about you know, 219 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: when you talk about Queensland, I took with the greatest 220 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Queensland players is of course Wally Lewis, of course Cameron Smith. 221 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: When it gets to New South Wales, there's blokes at there. 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Joey spoken about Bradley, Clyde, Brett, Kenny, Freddie Mate. I 223 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: put Lourie just about the top. He's contribution in New 224 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: South Wales and basically changing like Queensland dominated for so 225 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: long throughout the eighties, but the emergence of those young 226 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: guys from the Green Machine that Canberra era really swung 227 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,239 Speaker 1: up back in New South Whil's way and Laurie tippified 228 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: that he came in. It was funny. His first series 229 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: was in eighty nine right and the great Jack Gibson 230 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: was coaching the New South Wales side. Jack knew you 231 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: had this kid who was developing. It was going to 232 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: be a legend of the game. He just missed it 233 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: by twelve months because when he come in Laurie that 234 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: first series, he was really struggled. He talks of I've 235 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: spoken to him. I interviewed him about it, and I said, 236 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: that first series in eighty nine bad memories, he said, 237 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: most terrible. He said, I went in so naive, not 238 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: knowing what Origin was about. He was nineteen years of age, 239 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: and he said, I was playing center opposite my mentor, 240 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: my hero, my teammate, my captain, Malmaninger. And he said naively, 241 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I went into that game believe him Mal would take 242 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: it easier. And he said he he just completely completely 243 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: humiliated loss, you know. Talking about his trajectory as a player. 244 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: The big turning point for Laurie, I think he's breakouts 245 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: as far as being a representative player was City versus 246 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: Country nineteen ninety and Country were beaten by two points, 247 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: but Laurie absolutely tore City to shreds and after the 248 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: game it was like mate, it was everything changed. He 249 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: went into State of Origin that year ninety ninety and 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: dominated Queensland in the first game. But the big one 251 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: when Phil goirled. The big rise with Laurie coops come 252 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: when Phil Gould was coach. Gus recognized straight away that 253 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: Laurie's got to be my captain. He elevated him's captain. 254 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: But I love this story when you talk about Gus 255 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: spoke to him about what did you learn from that 256 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: first series? Tell me about that first series, and he 257 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: told Gus the story about playing against Mail and Phil 258 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Mali take it easier. I mean how he humiliated him. Anyway, 259 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: when he made Laurie captain, he said, they're playing a 260 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: game at lang Park. It's a big game. Got to 261 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: be a decider, and he said, I've been the call 262 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: to tap on the tap in the dressing room. Mate, 263 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: come out. The captain's out to toss the coin, and 264 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Mal is the captain of Corny's land. Anyway, Gus grabbed 265 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: him and said this is your time. He said, go 266 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: and hide in the toilet. Let Mal wait for you 267 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: out there. So he said, Maol was forced to wait 268 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: outside Lorry's hiding in the toilet as a power play. 269 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Mail is just standing out there, made him wait five 270 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: minutes and then strolled out. And it was just a statement. 271 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: He said, Mao was filthy and mal knew exactly what 272 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: he was doing. And then he turned went back into 273 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: the sheds. It was a Turning Point and Lorry that 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: ninety four series, Laurie completely dominated it to the fact 275 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: that Coops they won. I don't know if it was decided, 276 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: but they won Game three in a really tough game 277 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: at the Sydney Football Stadium and Lorry scored a key 278 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: try late. And remember talking to Paul Harrigan the next day, 279 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: who was a skipper at Newcastle. He played in that game, 280 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: and it was myself and out of me and we 281 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: have a lunch with Chief. I said, this is a 282 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: tough game. It said, yeah, really tough. And I said, 283 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, how did you feel through the game? You know, 284 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: like when they were on top? Did you think we win? 285 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: He said, on you would win? I said, why did 286 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: you know your win? He said because we had Lori 287 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: daily And I think that that says it all. 288 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: It's funny, like my history Lesson of Origin. You mentioned 289 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: about MAO and I always wanted to play Origin, but 290 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: I didn't play until twenty ten. So I was still 291 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: playing first grade for a few years and everyone else 292 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: would pack there, but I go Thrid and I'd stay behind. 293 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: It started cutting me and I wanted for Ego to 294 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: be a part of it, right, So I just all 295 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: I thought about was Origin was the best game of 296 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: the year, and I just wanted to play in it. 297 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: So it was self driven and egotistical about I get 298 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: into Origin Camp twenty ten for my Deboom and Mao 299 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: talks about the history of Origin, where the concept of 300 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: Queensland started in nineteen eighty and all of a sudden 301 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: it became more powerful than just me. So I'm talking about, like, 302 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: why does Queensland rise when they playing them own jerseys 303 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: because quick history lesson. Prior to nineteen eighty, it was 304 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: always about where you played, right, So all the good 305 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: players of queens then moved to New South Wales represented Queensland. 306 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: They played in the state game and New South Wales 307 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: would smash Queensland fifty zeril every game yep, and the 308 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Queenslander's got smashed. It wasn't until nineteen eighty when they 309 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: changed the rules of where you're born. Arthur beats in 310 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: that first scrum. He's playing reserve grade for Paramatter at 311 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: the time. Packs In McCrone is the gun player for 312 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: paramatter at the time for New South Wales get stuck 313 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: into him and that is mate verse mate state Verse State. 314 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: Mal brought that story up. So the power of that 315 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: Queensland Jersey. Why did Queenslanders get Origin? It's because of 316 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: that history, lesson of the past and playing for the future. 317 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: And I lived through that coup, like you know, growing up, 318 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: following when I was a young kid in the seventies 319 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: watching New South well, when the interstate games came around, 320 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: we would annihilate Queensland. And I still remember, I still 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: remember the first set of Origin game. I was living 322 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: in Newcastle. We didn't get the game televised and I 323 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: don't believe I'm listening to it on the radio and 324 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm listening to Queensland just belders and I'm saying, I 325 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: said to my dad, what's going on? Like you know, 326 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I didn't understand the concept. But watching you back later, 327 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: like I'll get goose pumps, watching Arthur boots and run 328 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: on the field like the returning hero. I heard Chris 329 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Cloves tell a story. Was Gordy as it was Gordy 330 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: relaying the story. The only difference was choppy story where 331 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: for two minutes and Gordy's breath for two hours. But 332 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: he sold. He told Gordy, he said, I'm a young 333 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: guy sitting there and he said in the next locker 334 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: to me or sitting next to me is Arthur. And 335 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: he said, Arthur's just sitting there really quiet. And Arthur's 336 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: got all these tapes, doing all his own taping, and 337 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: he's strapping his fingers up and he said. I looked 338 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: at him and said, mate, this guy's going to war 339 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: like he was a warrior going to war and man 340 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: a contribution. So often, coops, you're just talking there about 341 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: the history and the history that like think you blokes 342 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: are taught when you go into camp and how important 343 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: that is for you blokes, and oftentimes that's the reason 344 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: why you blokes going into a series, you win the 345 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: battle of the narrative. That makes sense, You win that battle, 346 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: like played in the game where that that series fatties 347 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Queensland as a ninety five and we went into county 348 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: when that guy apologize to the studio audience. We've got 349 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: a studio awardens three viewers have made the trip to 350 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: our time and to watch us and howdy ah. But 351 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: I so we had like a gun team, even though 352 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Super League players weren't selected, were gun site, you know, 353 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: Freddie and Chief and someone and of course Stop John's 354 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: Stop New South Wales anyway. 355 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: Why do you for yourself? 356 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: That was this funny turn of phrase anyway, But we 357 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: went in there and we were I've heard Gus talk 358 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: about this after they Queensland beat the series and so 359 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: what was the difference? He said? Our blokes turned up 360 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: into camp trying to show each other how skillful they were, 361 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: and the Queensland has turned up trying to show each 362 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: other how tough they were and coops. That first night 363 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: at the Sydney Football Stadium, I remember, I think, and 364 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: I was right, did the warm up felt good? You know? 365 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Run onto the field and I'm standing there right and 366 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: I look over as Queensland run on and I see 367 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: my teammate Robbie O Davis and there was just something 368 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: different about him, and at that point I thought we 369 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: won't be in trouble here. There was just something. There 370 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: was an extra layer of intensity in that term. 371 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: So there's not a huge gap there was in ninety five. 372 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: But there's some similarities. And the example will be paying 373 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: us and Patrick Carrighan. Yeah, like that will be an example. 374 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: Paying us runs out of the field a bunch of 375 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: Patrick Carrighan is not Yeah, high five of him saying goody, you. 376 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: Be one big great classroom too. Yeah, it's a big 377 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: one for cubs. We're gonna do a bit of the 378 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: health check on the competition here and when we you know, 379 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: it's been all about origin here, we might split it 380 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: in two. We'll do a few of the teams now 381 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: and a few of them next week. But let's start. 382 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: We'll go from the bottom up to the top. And 383 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: usually the bottom teams it's usually very straightforward. They're having 384 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: a blood er every year and they're not going to 385 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: make the finals. There's a couple of them, but there are, 386 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: But it's Penrith. What are you thinking? 387 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: They are in seventeenth on nine points. The Broncos are 388 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: in eighth on twelve points. In the next period of time, 389 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: they play the Eels twice, the Tigers twice. They've got 390 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: two buyers. They've got the Titans, Knights and Souths. There's 391 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: a couple of other big games of worries. 392 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: They're going to creep in. 393 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: I've got them here finishing eighth. You agree, I do agree. 394 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I do agree. We've said this before. If they can 395 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: creep into the eight, they can win the camp Coops. 396 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: My prediction is I think they will creep into the eight. 397 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: But I think it'll be very, very similar to when 398 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: Brisbane did similar ninety nine, but they lost all those 399 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: games empty and they spent the pennies getting there. I 400 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: agree with that, But when you look at it also 401 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: the amount of players they're going to have playing state 402 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: of Origin on top of everybody everything else I've got 403 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: to make in the second week of the finals. 404 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't argue with that. I feel like 405 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: I was just doing some research into this. I think 406 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: they do. I think they slip into the eight. And 407 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: I can't say that to too many of the other 408 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: teams down the bottom of the ladder, as simple as that. 409 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: What about Titans, mate, they deserve brutality in opinion. You know, 410 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: it's just I mean, okay. 411 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: Let's look well the Spoon Yeah. 412 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: Well look at the Queen's Land side coops where this 413 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: is what puzzles puzzles. We talk about this in numerous 414 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: times individually. Look at the talent on that team. But 415 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: let's look at the Queensland side both for more Tin, no, 416 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: for the Waker, yep, anybody else in that pack that 417 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: but like, that's a great pack and you are three 418 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: of the Titans there mainstage of the Titans pack. 419 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: I just he's their best player, Tino by a country mile. 420 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Yep. 421 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: The one thing that I think is hurting the Titans 422 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: is des has been a defensive coach for a long 423 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: period of time, and history says he gets it right 424 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: when he's got a good team. There's a disconnect between 425 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: them doing it and his message. And the other thing 426 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: I think is hurting is that the top end talent. 427 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm taking Tino out of this conversation, but the top 428 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: end talent are either injured or they feel like they 429 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: look lost on a field like they don't they're not consistent, 430 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: they don't feel like they're on the same page all 431 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: the time, and it's just in and out of eighty 432 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: minute performances looks okay. It's just yeah, it's bad, and 433 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to get any better. I 434 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: think Penrith go that way quickly. And I'm worried about. 435 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: The Titans aside that is, you talk a big, big 436 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: gulf in attitude between one side and the next. Look 437 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: at the Earl's attitude compared to the Titans, and the 438 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: Earls had a really difficult start to the season without 439 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses. You know, Jason Royle is trying to bed 440 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: down a new style of these young guys coming into 441 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: the team. But I tear what they look. They look 442 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: really really good at the moment. 443 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: They've improved, and he cleaned out that roster at the 444 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: back end of last year and now I feel like 445 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: he's very reliant on the leaders Borlow Moses, throw Brown 446 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: in there. But Lomax like, if those guys play well, 447 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: I think the Riley Smiths and the i Is and 448 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, they will follow. Yes, but 449 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: I think it's very reliant on that leadership group to 450 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: play well and get the job. 451 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: I see him getting out of the bottom four. I 452 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: see him moving in and around ten or eleven. I 453 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: think possibly you can just see they've got their tails 454 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: up at the moment. I will sure return from Origin. 455 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: And I will say Dylan Walker has been very, very 456 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: good for them, fantastic even on the weekend, it was 457 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: great no mich and Moses stood up lots of ballplaying. 458 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: I think he'd be a key piece of the puzzle 459 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 2: for them to improve a little bit. 460 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Final one for this week, the Knights needed that win 461 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: over Penrith or they would have been sitting last on 462 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: the ladder right Knight's best player so far this she's been, 463 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, being Fletcher sharp, Dylan Lucas as well. 464 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Dilan Lucas was sensational on the weekend A coops the 465 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: Kaylen at fullback, at fullback and Fletcher at six. The 466 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: formula wasn't quite working out there. They put Fletcher back 467 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: to his preferred position playing fullback. They experimented a couple 468 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: of years ago with kayl and at six it didn't work. 469 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: Is it worth having a look at again? 470 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: I think Kaylen no worries. The Knights are a good 471 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: defensive team. They need to win games while they're going 472 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: through this period on the back of their defense. If 473 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: there's one simple solution for the Knights attack, and Kleen 474 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: is the big piece of this. We've spoken about this 475 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: previous on the show. Calen's best position is when it's 476 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: four versus four down a wide short side. He has 477 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: the footwork to carve up anyone right. So as simple 478 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: as this is, I'm playing to that position and given 479 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: Kalen four and four. Now, if they give four defenders, 480 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: Kaylin take it. If they put five on Kaylen, because 481 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: they're worried the rest of you. Take it. That's as 482 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: simple as I can try and help them out with 483 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: their attack. 484 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: It's the same with Tamara Tahu. We say with Tamata 485 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: you know when he was in really fire and we said, mate, 486 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: look if they've got four and we've got four, give 487 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: it to Mana. Actually, if they've got five, give it 488 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: to Actually, if they've got six, gives I feel. 489 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Like their spine is. I know why Adam O'Brien keeps 490 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: changing because there's no one grabbing the jersey, right, But 491 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: you probably need to simplify in terms of trying to 492 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: make this elaborate play to create space for Kaylin on 493 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: the extremities, Like just where is his favorite positions in 494 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: this part of the field. Where does he do all 495 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 2: of his damage this part of the field. All right, 496 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: let's design the system where he gets the ball there 497 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: more often than not. That's right, And that's as simple 498 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: as this that field position for defenders. Kaylin take it. 499 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: What does Cooper Krong do on Origin Knights? You're going 500 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: to go up to us Sun Corporal, what does it? 501 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: What does an origin Knight like for you? Now? 502 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: Considering that you only work two days a week, around 503 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: this joint. You wouldn't understand. 504 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: Two days a week double duty John's for me. 505 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: You would understand the sweat, blood and tears are going 506 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: into this John. I'm actually going to call the game. 507 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: Called the game. 508 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: So you don't even know what's going on around here. 509 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Do No, No, I don't. I'm a little that's the coops. 510 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: You know, this is the thing, mate, You come in, 511 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: your clock out, you go, mate, don't get caught up 512 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: in office politics. If you haven't got an office, so 513 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: you haven't got a computer or haven't got a chair, 514 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: they don't expect you to be. 515 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: You can't turn what off? That's right, that's right. 516 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: I haven't heard me yet. Well maybe it has good 517 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: on your mate. 518 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: Mm hmmmmmm