1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: On Scorne Wilds, Australia. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: This is the winder Panahi Show. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahe Show. I'm 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. Anthony Albernizi claims Benjamin NETTNYA, 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 3: who is in denial in another blow to relations with 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: Israel as the PM forges ahead with his plan to 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: recognize Kalestine. See the Incredible Moment to Chinese warship flows 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: into its own Coast Guard vessel in the. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: South China Sea. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: Michael Schubrinch will explain what happened Alex Stein on Donald 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: Trump's plan to crack down on crime and homelessness in Washington, DC, 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: and it's got the Left and the Democrats in a spin. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: Anti Israel group's about to take over another Australian landmark. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: I will speak to Kosher Gada and of course left 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: he's losing it. Including an unhinged and tragic rant by 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: a former American TV host. 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: When the felon is the teeny weenie mushroom pieces Kinkles 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: mctaco at the top of the ticket. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is desperately trying to justify his appalling 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 3: and treacherous decision to recognize Palestine. 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: Have a look at this. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 5: The international community is saying enough is enough. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 6: You can't just keep doing the same thing over and 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 6: over again and expect a different outcome. And this is 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 6: the best opportunity that there is out of a crisis 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 6: to actually provide a long term solution, one which sees 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 6: a demilitarized state of Palestine enable Palestinians to just live. 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 3: Really, because all this does is reward Humus, the same 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: terror group who slaughtered twelve hundred Jews on October seven, 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister Michayla Cash had this gaving assessment. 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: It is reckless, It is disappointing, but more than that, 32 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: it does nothing to change the situation on the ground 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: for the Palestinian people. Joining me now on the panel 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: is Deputy Executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: Daniel Wilde and News Corpse senior writer Patrick Carlyonhi to. 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: Both of you. Thanks for joining me. Patrick. 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: Look, let's not forget that this is a lifelong dream 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: of Anthony Alberezi's to recognize Palestine. He's always been pro Palestine, 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: and now, as we've just heard, he's trying to justify 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: this decision by claiming Palestine just wants to live. Well, 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: what about Israel? I mean, Israel would love that too, 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: without the threat of her mus wanting to wipe it out. 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: Well, that's the point to Nika, isn't it. 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 7: I mean, Israel has faced this existential threat since nine 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 7: forty eight. Over the past seventy seven years, the rest 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 7: of the country is around it have tried to obliterate 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 7: it and the idea that somehow the Western world can 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 7: somehow have this feel good gesture that says, let's not 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 7: worry about the details on the ground, let's just make 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 7: it better from Afar, it actually does the opposite of 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 7: what it's intending to do. I mean, no one's talking 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 7: about the fifty hostages that Hamas have at the moment. 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: What's happened to them? 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 7: Are they going to be Are they innocent souls to 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 7: be forsaken for this feel good gesture that won't actually 56 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 7: make the place any safer exactly? 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: And it just seems like I don't think anybody understands 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: what is going on here. And Daniel Anthony Arberneezy has 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: also revealed details of a conversation that he had with 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who about these plans, 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: have a listen to this. 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: I spoke with Prime Minister Netanya who he again reiterated 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 5: to me what he has said publicly as well, which 64 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: is to be in denial about the consequences that are 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: occurring for innocent people. 66 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: So Daniel, now the PM thinks that Benjamin Netanya, who 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: is in denial. 68 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 8: What on earth is he on about? 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 9: I mean, this really is a terrible government that is 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 9: driving our country into the ground at the moment. You know, 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 9: this is craven domestic politics that is driving this. Anthony 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 9: Albanezi wild like to pretend that he's a great humanitarian 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 9: coming on the white horse to save all the people 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 9: in Gaza. The reality is it's got to do with 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 9: labor seats in Western Sydney that are driving these decisions. 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 9: And that's what's been happening for the last couple of years. 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 9: And you know, we are so divided as a society. 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 9: This could not come at a worse possible time. And 79 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 9: we now have a federal government of our nation that 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 9: is making very consequential decisions as a result of an 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 9: intolerant and extreme views of a minority in our society, 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 9: and the problem is this is only going to be 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 9: the start. Whatever those from the Middle East in the 84 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 9: labor seats in Western Sydney demand they get from this government. 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 9: And as you identified in your monologue, this is just 86 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 9: rewarding terrorism, plain and simple. 87 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely and also obviously putting our long standing ally 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: in Israel even further offside. 89 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: It's just appalling. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: Now let's go to Australia's worst premiere just into Alan 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: over in Victoria. She's been spooking her damaging plan to 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: make working from home a legal right, putting out cringey 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: social media videos like this have a look lovely a. 94 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: Preaching working from home is a game changer for families 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: everywhere and for Felicity. 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for welcoming us into your home with Charlotte 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: as well. 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: Hasn't working from home been for you? 99 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 10: Means traveling to work is one lessing. I've got to 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 10: deal a morning with a large family. It's fantastic and 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 10: with my husband working long hours, it means that he 102 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 10: can do that and I'm here to help with the family. 103 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 11: There is no reason why you shouldn't work from the 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 11: two day work from home right as a right I 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 11: think there's actually a really important kind of flaw. 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 12: It's not dependent on the whims of the employer. 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: It feels like a necessary part of modern working life. 108 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: So Patrick, she's resorted to recruiting everyday punters for her 109 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: daily propaganda videos. 110 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of her? 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 7: Well, look, as a Victorian, Dnika, I think this is 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 7: a classic piece of cheeky and cynical politics. Look, the 113 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 7: Victorian government doesn't have the power to enshrine two days 114 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 7: of working from home a week. It comes under federal laws. 115 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 7: But it was sort of made. It was announced with 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 7: something very cynical in mind, which is it was going to. 117 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: Be popular, and it certainly has been popular. 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 7: It's a very stale, it's a very arrogant government, but 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 7: they know that a lot of average people will say 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 7: good on you for looking after us, even though it 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 7: is such a bad government and has been for a 122 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 7: long time. Look, it's unlikely to get up, but it 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 7: will work in the electorate on this very cynical sort 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 7: of level, and we'll wait to see what happens. 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: But it is a very cynical piece of politic Absolutely. 126 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: I just think it's a shocker. Why don't you just 127 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: let businesses. 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: Decide for themselves. Meanwhile, two Allen government sources of total 129 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: nine newspapers that quote the backlash against the policy was 130 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: not only expected but welcomed within Allan's inner circle. It 131 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: reminds me of the phrase you would always hear within 132 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews's office. Stakeholders aren't voters. That's according to one 133 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: of the sources. I mean, Daniel, what a peculiar thing 134 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: to say that they don't care at all about business. 135 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 9: Well, that's exactly right, and I think Patrick's point is 136 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 9: spot on. I mean, this will resonate with the typical 137 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 9: person on the streets. Certainly, young working families will probably 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 9: welcome it, although I accept the point that there's no 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 9: way the Victorian government can actually implement this at all. 140 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 8: And you know, they're making hay out. 141 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 9: Of the disaster that was the federal election, in part 142 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 9: because of the work from home policy that was targeted 143 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 9: at Canberra public servants but was interpreted by many in 144 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 9: the community to affect them as well. But you know, 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 9: as you point out, the issue here is that the 146 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 9: Victorian economy is already at the bottom of the economic 147 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 9: league ladder for our country. We've got states like New 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 9: South Wales and South Australia that have said, well, you know, 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 9: we're happy if Victoria does this because they're going to 150 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 9: poach their businesses that are going to move into states. 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 9: So yes, it might be good in the short run, 152 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 9: but in the long run, what you'll find is there'll 153 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 9: be less investment of fewer businesses and therefore fewer jobs 154 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 9: in Victoria. 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and not. 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Great for a state which has already broken and backwards 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: as it is. 158 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: Now. 159 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: Look, let's talk about the NDIS. It's been revealed key 160 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: figures in the Gillard government, who of course founded the 161 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: National Disability Insurance Scheme have gone on to chair union 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: backed super funds that have become the biggest financial winners 163 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: from it. Patrick, Look, we're talking a windfall here of 164 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: around three hundred and thirty million dollars. 165 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: What do you make of the revelations? 166 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 7: Look, the NDIES was a nice idea back a dozen 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 7: years ago. 168 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: Its execution has been appalling. 169 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 7: Obviously, it's been a racket for profiteers, for cheats, for 170 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 7: people to make money and as taxpayers money I think 171 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 7: you're looking at I think it costs about fifty two 172 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 7: billion dollars a year at the moment that's farm more 173 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 7: than defense. The policing has been dreadful, and you see 174 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 7: these labor ministers who are part of the boards of 175 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 7: these super. 176 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: Funds which have made an awful lot of money. 177 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 7: Now I should point out none of them are personally 178 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 7: profited from it or anything like that. But the whole 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 7: NDIS model has been skew we from day one and. 180 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: It's cost Australian taxpayers an absolute fortune. 181 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, this whole scheme is a behemoth. It was originally 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: meant for the most severely disabled and gee, it's just 183 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: blowing out week by week. Meanwhile, whistleblowers have also claimed 184 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: that people on the NDS are being traded for thousands 185 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: of dollars, completely unaware that they're being auctioned off. 186 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: To the highest bidder. 187 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: They allege that so called concierges offer NDIS recipients to 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: service providers wanting a percentage of the plan value or 189 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: flat rate for the referral, and whichever provider pays the 190 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: most gets the patient. 191 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: Daniel. 192 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: It just feels like week by week there are new 193 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: revelations about the roughts involved. 194 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: In this scheme. 195 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 9: Well, that's right, another week, another rout it's become a 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 9: massive trough that various interested parties have their snouts in, unfortunately, 197 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 9: and it's not delivering outcomes for those who needed. I mean, 198 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 9: the original conception of the NDIS was to help people 199 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 9: that have profound disabilities or catastrophic injuries. I think it 200 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 9: used to be the National Injury Insurance Scheme that they're 201 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 9: morphed into the NDIS. 202 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 8: And I think that's fair enough. 203 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 9: I mean, there's often cases where you can't get personal 204 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 9: insurance for those kinds of outcomes in your life, and 205 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 9: there's a role for government to support that. But we've 206 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 9: just seen ballooning numbers that have not been rained in. 207 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 9: The Costs have skyrocketed, and this government is just not 208 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 9: interested in. 209 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 8: Doing anything about it. 210 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 9: They've waived the white flag, and unfortunately that means that 211 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 9: it's fifty odd billion dollars now it's going to get 212 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 9: to one hundred billion dollars. I mean, can you believe 213 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 9: that one hundred billion dollars on one scheme where something 214 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 9: like ten percent of young adults are on it, Like 215 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 9: ten percent of young adults are on the NDIS. 216 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 8: I mean, how does that happen? 217 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 9: Is any looking at this and say, well, Hey, on, 218 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 9: something's going very wrong with this scheme. 219 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 13: Yeah. 220 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: Well, I mean this is exactly the problem, isn't it. 221 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: This is why what happens when a scheme of this 222 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: scale is not means tested. So suddenly every man and 223 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: their dog are able to sign up. 224 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: Now, look, this is interesting. 225 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: Shadow Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasty has launched a campaign 226 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: called Together under One Flag to revive pride in the 227 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: Australian Flag, claiming that many Ossies are disappointed to see 228 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: protesters burning the national symbol. 229 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: Particularly over in Melbourne. 230 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: Patrick, I think that Hasty is a future leader of 231 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: the Liberal Party. 232 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: I think he's brilliant. 233 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: He says what it is, and I think he's right. 234 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: You know, you get labeled far right just for taking 235 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: pride in your country and waiving the flag. 236 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: So you know, what do you make of his stance 237 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: on this. 238 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: I think it's terrific. 239 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 7: Denika, as you mentioned, you had a flag burned at 240 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 7: a protest the other day down here in Victoria. Had 241 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 7: a local council officer describe the Australian flag as potentially 242 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 7: culturally unsafe to some section of Australian society. That's offensive 243 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 7: the idea that the Australian flag is offensive to anyone 244 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 7: in Australia is offensive. 245 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: It is a uniting symbol. As Andrew Hasty pointed. 246 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 7: Out, more than one hundred thousand Australians have died fighting 247 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 7: under that flag. It represents what it means and who 248 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 7: we are to be as Australians. And I think it's 249 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 7: a wonderful idea of Andrew to do this. 250 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: I agree. 251 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 3: I mean the thought of it being you know, culturally insensitive, 252 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: Give me a break. Where are we heading to in 253 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: society these days? Daniel, Whether the Australian flag is offensive 254 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: to the. 255 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 8: Left, well, exactly right. 256 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 9: I mean this is important leadership from Andrew Hasty, and 257 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 9: I hope we see a lot more of it. We've 258 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 9: got Flag Day coming up on the third of September 259 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 9: and I reckon that'll be the biggest flag day we've had. 260 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 8: For a long time in this country. 261 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 9: And quite rightly, look, the issue here on top of 262 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 9: what you and Patrick have said, is we've got a 263 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 9: Prime minister that won't even stand in front of the flag. 264 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 9: I mean, how did it get to a place where 265 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 9: the Prime minis will early stand in front of the 266 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 9: national flag when it has the. 267 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 8: Aboriginal and Torres straight under the flags there as well. 268 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 8: It's a complete and total disgrace. 269 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 9: We need to be united as a community around our 270 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 9: shared values, and our shared values are embodied within the 271 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 9: national flag. It's not just a piece of fabric with 272 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 9: colors on it. It represents our way of life and 273 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 9: the things that unite us rather than the things that 274 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 9: divide us. And as I say, we are more divided 275 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 9: than any time since World War Two, and it's important 276 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 9: that the flag has pride of place in our civic debate. 277 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. 278 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean, a couple of weeks ago, the PM's in 279 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: China at an official press conference, standing in front of 280 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: three flags. 281 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: It's just ridiculous. Now we're almost out of time. 282 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: But American rapper Snoop Dog has been officially confirmed as 283 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: the headline pre match musical act at this year's AFL 284 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: Grand Final. Not sure if you're both fans, Patrick, do 285 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: you like this idea? 286 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: A bit of Snoop for the AFL Grand Final? 287 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: Look, he's big Danige. He played at the Super Bowl. 288 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 7: I think in twenty twenty two, we've had Katie Perry, 289 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 7: We've had Tom Jones, We've had the Killers. 290 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: Everyone will have a big opinion on it. 291 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 7: Whether it works or not, we will find out very 292 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 7: clearly as soon as the match begins playing. Because we 293 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 7: had Meatloaf, I think back twelve thirteen years ago and 294 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 7: people still talk about how bad he was. Everyone will 295 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 7: have a very strong view. 296 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 297 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: Look, let's not even mention meat life. That was probably 298 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: the worst out of the. 299 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: Ball, Daniel, what do we wreckon a bit of Snoop? 300 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: Doggie dog? Are your fan? 301 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 8: Well? 302 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 9: I wonder if Snoop will be given the welcome the country. Oh, 303 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 9: I wonder how that will go down? You know you 304 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 9: know this to me reeks of boomer cultural cringe. 305 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 8: I mean you go back. 306 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 9: My favorite was nineteen eighty seven VFL Grand Final Slim 307 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 9: Dusty singing Waltzing Matilda. Now I know Slim tragically is 308 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 9: not with us anymore, but why can't we have an 309 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 9: Australian singer singing an Australian song and an Australian game. 310 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 9: We don't need to import from me of dollars. He's 311 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 9: American singers. 312 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: I feel like we've. 313 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: Almost exhausted all options for Rossie Sikers. 314 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: That's the problem, Daniel. 315 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: I think we've had Barnzy, I think we've had we've 316 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: got all the key ones, but no, I take your point, 317 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: but yeah, gosh, and welcome to country for Snoop's Yeah, 318 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: that's a shocker. Daniel Wild, Patrick Carline, great to see 319 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: you both, Thanks so much for joining me. The Ukrainian 320 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: president has softened his position on giving up Ukrainian land 321 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: to Russia as part of a potential peace deal. Voladimir 322 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: Zelenski says any settlement proposal which hands over Ukrainian land 323 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: would be rejected, but Ukrainian territory in Russia's control could 324 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: be on the table now. This of course comes as 325 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump says he would raise it during his meeting 326 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: with the Russian president this week. 327 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 14: There'll be some swapping, there'll be some changes in land. 328 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 14: And the word that there were used is you know, 329 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 14: they make changes. We're going to change the lines, the 330 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 14: battle lines. Russia's occupied a big portion of Ukraine, they've 331 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 14: occupied by prime territory. We're going to try and get 332 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 14: some of the territory back for Ukraine. 333 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Director at Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Schubridge. Michael, 334 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: good to see you, Thanks for joining me. This is 335 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: quite a concession by Ukraine on land. Do you think 336 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: Donald Trump will indeed be successful in getting land back 337 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: to Ukraine as part of any sort of deal. 338 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Well, let's see. 339 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 15: But the big danger here is that Donald Trump thinks 340 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 15: this is like two real estate developers, him and Putin 341 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 15: meeting and doing some kind of development deal over property. 342 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 15: It's a much deeper, more difficult thing than that. Putin 343 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 15: wants to grab well defended chunks of Ukraine around the 344 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 15: Don Bass to make attacking Ukraine easier. So Trump has 345 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 15: to avoid that. And there are a whole lot of 346 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 15: other big issues like where are the thousands of Ukrainian 347 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 15: children that Putin's forces have abducted? And what about the 348 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 15: devastation that Putin's forces have caught to Ukrainian cities and 349 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 15: the Ukrainian population. So it can't just be some kind 350 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 15: of land deal, and Ukraine has to be at the table. 351 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 13: Yeah. 352 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: Look, it's very, very complicated, So it's going to be 353 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: interesting to see how that plays out, and of course 354 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: with European involvement as well. Now, look, I want to 355 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: ask you about this incident in the South China Sea. 356 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: A Chinese warship plowed into its own Coastguard vessel which 357 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: was chasing a Philippine vessel yesterday. China confirm that a 358 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: confrontation took place and accuse the Philippines of forcibly intruding 359 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: into Chinese waters. Michael, I just think that this vision 360 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: is absolutely extraordinary. 361 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: How does something like this happen? 362 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 15: Well, there's a lack of control in the Chinese Coastguard 363 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 15: and the Chinese navy, and that will disturb Chinese leader Shijingping. 364 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 15: He's told his coastguard and navy to be a great 365 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 15: when it encounters others. 366 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: Our navy has found them like that. 367 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 15: But this is really a massive own goal, a massive 368 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 15: loss of prestige for the Chinese military and coastguard. 369 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what. 370 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 15: The Philippines captain that maneuvered so cleverly and successfully really 371 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 15: shows high quality captaining of his vessel. 372 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, good point. 373 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I just think that just fascinating, fascinating vision. Now, 374 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: the Defense Minister, Richard Miles was in Papua New Guinea 375 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: today finalizing a new bilateral defense treaty. The Minister also 376 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: handed over twelve armored land cruisers to the P and 377 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: G Defense Force. Michael, we know that this is all 378 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: to counter China's growing influence in the region. Can you 379 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: tell us more details about whether this. 380 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: Deal is going to be good for us and is 381 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: Australia doing enough. 382 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 15: I think it is good for us, and it's good 383 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 15: for Papua New Guinea. We are really each other's security partners, 384 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 15: and it's good that Papua New Guinea wants to get 385 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 15: closer with us. 386 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: In defense terms. 387 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 15: We'll probably see Richard Miles go to the rebuilt Lombrum 388 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 15: naval base. I wish we'd build a bigger base for 389 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 15: Australia and P ANDNG and others to use. So it's 390 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 15: good news, but handing over a few up armored land 391 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 15: cruisers shows really there's so much we could be doing 392 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 15: with our P and G partner. 393 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough. 394 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 3: Now let's talk about what I believe is Anthony Arbernese's 395 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: disgraceful and shameful decision to recognize a Palestinian state at 396 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: the United Nations General Assembly next month. This of course, 397 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: goes against the position of the United States and Donald 398 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: Trump at the moment, which could prove costly as OLBO 399 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: still can't get a meeting with the leader of the 400 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: Free World Michael, do you think it does put us 401 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 3: in a worse. 402 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: Position with the Trump administration. 403 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 15: Well, yes I do, because sure, lots of other countrieses 404 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 15: have recognized a Palestinian state, a state that does not exist. 405 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 15: But Australia choosing to do this right now is really 406 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 15: going to be watched closely by Washington. They are not 407 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 15: going to do this, and that's because, unlike our Prime minister, 408 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 15: they know that the Palestinian authority that our Prime Minister 409 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 15: says is going to magically reform itself, not be corrupt, 410 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 15: demilitarize Hamas and all these other magical things. The Americans 411 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 15: know that's not going to happen. So really, if the 412 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 15: Prime Minister wanted peace in Gaza, he'd be talking maybe 413 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 15: that idea from mccron about a UN backed security force, 414 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 15: maybe saying Australia would contribute. But the Prime Minister is 415 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 15: not serious. He's just after the sugar rush of people 416 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 15: applauding him. 417 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: So, I mean, what does it say that about our 418 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: alignment with the United States? So we increasingly moving away 419 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: from that and are moving away from a United position 420 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: on important like this from our closest ally. 421 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 15: Well yes, I mean, look at the Prime Minister's trip 422 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 15: to China, where he said, this is a fantastic relationship. 423 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 15: We need to grow our economic entanglement even further. Right 424 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 15: when Trump is saying, gosh, we need to start moving 425 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 15: away from China economically. So we're out of step on China. 426 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 15: We're certainly miles out of step when it comes to 427 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 15: the Middle East. And we've had the Prime Minister giving 428 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 15: odd speeches about how strong we are by refusing to 429 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 15: lift our own weight in defense. So I think Washington 430 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 15: will be looking with amusement and puzzlement at the Albanese government. 431 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just such a shame it's happening with 432 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: our number one ally, a long standing ally. 433 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 4: So we'll watch this one closely. 434 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: Michael Schubridge always appreciate your insights and analysis. Thanks so 435 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: much for joining me. Still to come, Lefty's Losing ears 436 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: Plus Donald Trump deploys the National Guard to Washington, d C. 437 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 3: As he cracks down on crime and homelessness. Alex Stein 438 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: will join me next. Now it is time for lefties 439 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: losing it. Donald Trump has deployed the National Guard to Washington, 440 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: d C. After announcing a crackdown on crime and homelessness. 441 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 4: But be careful. Do not even mention it to. 442 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: Democrat Representative Maxine waters She's calling it a civil war. 443 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 16: Were to mean nothing, actions mean everything. Watch this, Watch 444 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 16: it very jealously, ask a lot of questions. Focus those 445 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 16: cameras on everything that's going on, because this president is 446 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 16: trying to lead us into what could be. 447 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: Called a civil war. 448 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly, Maxine Waters Wig is really starting to have 449 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 3: an impact on her brain. Meanwhile, Democrat strategist Jim Kessler 450 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: had a peculiar tack. 451 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 17: If people are afraid to come to d C, go 452 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 17: to Disney World, get fat, eat French fries. 453 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: I don't care. I've lived here thirty seven years. I 454 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: am not afraid of what. 455 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: Don't worry about crime, nothing to see here. Go to Disney, 456 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: get fat. That's going to solve all the problems. 457 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: Good one, Jim. 458 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 3: And now to the Washington d C protests or should 459 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: I say funeral procession? Is that not the most tragic 460 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: and dull looking protest you have ever seen? 461 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 4: DC is our home. 462 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: You can't have it Trump. I mean all of this 463 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: just to stop the crime cleanup. 464 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: It's so tragic. 465 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: The organizers don't even know what the heck they're trying 466 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: to say, will we say we. 467 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 18: Will go Yeah, I mean we're not going into two 468 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 18: those mass and castle into now priss in Islam, I 469 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 18: won't go into it now to their acose what do 470 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 18: you call his beautiful sinners that you get? We won't 471 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 18: go to where alligators live? 472 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 8: Hell no, we won't go. 473 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can. 474 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: You can really see that moment tick over cut you 475 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: in her head. She's she's trying the hardest, she's trying 476 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: to hardest, but she's got absolutely no clue whatsoever what 477 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: she's on about. In fact, it is so bad the 478 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: protesters even turned on each other. I mean, what sort 479 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: of a protest was this? They tried to cobble it 480 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: together at the last minute. And the irony of them 481 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: protesting about crime when they start. 482 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: Fighting each other. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. 483 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: With the left lunatics great I lefties and now have 484 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: to listen to some of the lefty Washington Day Saint meltdowns. 485 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 19: Because he hates the site of homeless people. They're gone. 486 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 19: I don't know where he's gonna move them. I assume 487 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 19: into camps and they're gonna end up on farm somewhere 488 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 19: doing hard labor. 489 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 8: For people. 490 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: It's not about protecting the people anymore. 491 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Now, it's about forcing the law on people. 492 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 16: It is a president quote undermining and negating power that 493 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 16: a city already has in play. 494 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: To navigate its own city, local population. 495 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: It's not democratic. 496 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 20: This miserable has never experienced life without a golden spoon 497 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 20: up and you're sitting there acting like he's one of us. 498 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 20: Let me learn you something here, Kletis, you are now 499 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 20: and always will be closer to homeless than. 500 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: You ever will be to Trump. 501 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 20: You know, he could lose ninety nine percent of his 502 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 20: wealth and that would still be true. 503 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 13: So you for the fact that. 504 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 20: You're more than willing to demonize the homeless community as 505 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 20: being the cause of crime in Washington, DC. 506 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 21: I've said it a few times now. We need to 507 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 21: start burning. There needs to be a consequence. We can't 508 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 21: just let fascism take over. We can't let orange mustache. 509 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 13: Man sen him and Hitler. 510 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 21: We can't let him just do whatever he wants. 511 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: No, not the tolerant left inciting violence again. 512 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: No way, no way. And look over at MSNBC, they 513 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 4: too are having a. 514 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: Freak out, claiming President Trump sending in the National Guard 515 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 3: to address crime. 516 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: Is you've guessed it racist. 517 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: You're trying to hold my temper. 518 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 15: We have to understand this, Chris, within the context of 519 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 15: Donald Trump's racial politics and within the context of his 520 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 15: effort to get Epstein off the front pages. 521 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: Ah, yes, that old chestnut. They just love it. They 522 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: love the racist line, don't they. Everything is just so 523 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: racist with the left. Meanwhile, the crime rate is worse 524 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: in DC than many parts of the world, but Dana 525 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: bash over at C and N is coming up with 526 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 3: all sorts of excuses. 527 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 22: I should note that the most violent moment in recent 528 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 22: history in DC plus January sixth, and it was an 529 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 22: attack on the United States Capital by a lot of 530 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 22: people who are doing it in the name of Donald Trump, 531 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 22: and it the people who were hurt included members of blineforcemen. 532 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: Well, this is just truly fanatical propaganda by a delusional woman, 533 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: because Trump supporters. 534 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 4: Actually died that day. She really is a useless liar. 535 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: Now, a former TV host and alleged interior designer, Jennifer 536 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: Welsh seems to have completely absolutely lost her marbles. She's 537 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: gone on an unhinged rant suggesting Trump voters should not 538 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: be allowed at Mexican or Chinese restaurants. 539 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: I've had it with white people that triple trumped, Yeah, 540 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: that have the nerve in the audacity to walk into 541 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: a Mexican restaurant, a Chinese restaurant, an Indian restaurant, go 542 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: to perhaps their gay hairdresser. I don't think you should 543 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: be able to enjoy anything but cracker barrel when the 544 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: felon is the teeny weenie mushroom piece of candles mctaco 545 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: at the top of the ticket. I have had it 546 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: from top to bottom white people that triple Trump should 547 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: be banned, boycotted from enjoying the best thing that America 548 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: has to offer, which is multi culturalism. 549 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: WHOA Okay, well, let's just unpack that psycho woman's rant. Firstly, 550 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: legal immigrants are not a legal immigrants, funnily enough. Secondly, 551 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: forty eight percent of Latinos at about forty percent of 552 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: Asians voted for Donald Trump last year. 553 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: So old Jenny's. 554 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: Bizarre, common and so just disparaging against migrants who've actually 555 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: come to the country legally and worked hard. And thirdly, 556 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: as for cracker barrel, she's clearly never been Jennifer. Jenny, 557 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: jen whoever you are, you really are the perfect example 558 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: of a white, unhinged, sad liberal woman. 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: You poor thing. 560 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: Now over in Nova Scotia, they seem to be doing 561 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: a real life climate lockdown experiment. I hope you don't 562 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: like hiking, fishing, or being outdoors in general, because here 563 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: is the premier Tim. 564 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 12: Houston effect of four pm today. We're telling Nova Scotians 565 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 12: stay out of the woods. We are restricting travel and activities. 566 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 12: They really aren't necessary for most of us. Hiking, camping, fishing, 567 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 12: and the use of vehicles in the woods are not permitted. 568 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 12: Trail systems through woods are off limits. Camping is allowed, 569 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 12: but only in official campgrounds. 570 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: Look, don't leave home, Just stay at home, I think, 571 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: just stay where you are, don't go outside. It is 572 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: practically COVID two point zero stealing Canadians off from the world. 573 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to twenty twenty five authoritarianism. And now to Nancy Pelosi, 574 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: who seems to have found herself a new job, this 575 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: time helping kids transition. 576 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 11: Well, that is something I'm working for at the national level, 577 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 11: and we have, I said, I are hoping that we 578 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 11: can have gender from care for our trans kids. 579 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, as I just mentioned, Donald Trump has announced a 580 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: historic takeover of Washington, d C. Deploying about eight hundred 581 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: National Guard troops. 582 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: To bolster policing. He says it's part of. 583 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: A plan to rescue America's capital city from crime and homelessness. 584 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: Here is what he said. 585 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 23: I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital 586 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 23: from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor and worse. This is 587 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 23: Liberation Day in DC, and we're going to take our 588 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 23: capital back. 589 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: US Attorney General Pam Bondi said that the Trump administration 590 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: would use every power at. 591 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: Their disposal to restore law and order. 592 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 24: Let me be crystal clear. Crime in DC is ending 593 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 24: and ending today. We are going to use every power 594 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 24: we have to fight criminals. Here, President, thank you for 595 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 24: caring about our capital. No more, no more crime rampant 596 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 24: in our beautiful capital. 597 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on This is comedian and 598 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: host of Prime Time with Alex Stein on Blaze TV. 599 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: Alex Stein himself, Alex, good to catch up. Thanks for 600 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: joining me. Is this a good move and can the 601 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: administration actually pull it off? 602 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 17: Well, you know, it is going to be a tough 603 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 17: challenge when it comes to, you know, getting rid of 604 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 17: all the crime in DC, because they have a unique 605 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 17: situation where it is just there's basically no middle class. 606 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 13: It's the ultra wealthy and basically people that are. 607 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 17: Homeless, and so it's created this kind of ecosystem where 608 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 17: people need drugs in that area. So they come from Baltimore, 609 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 17: they come from Virginia, they come from West Virginia, they 610 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 17: come from all areas to go and commit crime in Washington, 611 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 17: DC because it's one of the biggest tourist spots in 612 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 17: the world, and there's a lot of affluent people. 613 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 13: So there's a lot of targets. 614 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 17: So it is going to be a tough task to 615 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 17: stop criminals from committing crime. 616 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 13: Basically an impossible task. But anything is better than. 617 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 17: The current situation that is going on in DC. It 618 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 17: is truly a dangerous place. And I'm not just being 619 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 17: hyperbolic when I say that. 620 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: Oh look, no, you riise a good point, and I've 621 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: got to siolics the leftings they're in a complete spin 622 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: over this. They're having a meltdown, saying it's part of. 623 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 8: A civil war. 624 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: But have I actually looked at the crime situation. It's 625 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: so bad you can't even wear a backpack into the 626 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: supermarket anymore. 627 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 4: Under the rules have a look. 628 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 24: Starting today at twelve giant grocery stores in DC and Maryland, 629 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 24: if you have a. 630 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 25: Bag over fourteen inches, you cannot take it inside the store. 631 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: So what does that look like. 632 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 16: Here's a backpack fourteen inches, This one can't go in. 633 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 26: Also, if you're on you're eighteen years old, you kind 634 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 26: of go into the store. 635 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: After six pm without an adult alex. 636 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: Yet the left will tell you that this is undemocratic. 637 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 17: You and you know, I see them constantly arguing. During 638 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 17: COVID every person on the left want to wear a mask. 639 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 17: But now in DC, which is obviously a traditionally liberal place, 640 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 17: now you can't go. 641 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 13: Into a store wearing a mask because they think you're 642 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 13: going to rob the place. 643 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 17: So maybe that's why they're mad, because they can't wear 644 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 17: their COVID masks are around. 645 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 13: So this is a serious problem. 646 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 17: That's why you can't take a big backpack into a 647 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 17: store because people are stuffing it with junk and you know, 648 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 17: running out of the store. So I think the left 649 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 17: are these crazy, looney leftists that actually are cheering for crime, 650 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 17: that don't want Donald Trump to make it safer. 651 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 13: They've really lost the plot. 652 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 17: And I don't think they are really in tune with 653 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 17: the you know, the struggles of other Americans that we 654 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 17: go through every day. 655 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: No, that live in some sort of weird, delusional realm. 656 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: It's crazy. Now. Look, the President has lashed out at. 657 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: Former speaker Nancy Pelosi, posting on Truth socially said crooked 658 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi and her very interesting husband beat every hedge fund. 659 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four. 660 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 3: In other words, these two very average minds beat all 661 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: of the super geniuses on Wall Street, thousands of them. 662 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 3: It's all inside information. Nancy Pelosi, of course, is denying 663 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: all these accusations of insider trading. But here was her 664 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 3: reaction when CNN brought it up. 665 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 4: Dragged interview. 666 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 8: So Nancy Pelosi. 667 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 11: Became rich, I might have to read that we're here 668 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 11: to talk about the sixtieth anniversary of Medicaid. 669 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 8: That's what I agreed to. 670 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: Come to try. 671 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, but I wanted it. 672 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 13: That means in the election, I wanted to give you 673 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 13: a chances to respond. 674 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 8: He accused you of insider trading. 675 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 13: What's your response to that. That's very ridiculous. 676 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: Oh, dear Alex, it was a no comment. Didn't want 677 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: to talk about it from Nancy it's a no, what 678 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: do you make of this? 679 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 17: Well, she looked guilty as can be, and then in 680 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 17: that clip right after she blames it on her husband. 681 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 17: I mean, it's impossible that she is a better stock 682 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 17: trader than all of the hedge funds. 683 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 13: On Wall Street. I mean, it's mathematically impossible. So it's 684 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 13: obvious that she is. 685 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 17: In in meetings and getting information that companies are getting 686 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 17: government deals. 687 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 13: So it doesn't make it. 688 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 17: That difficult for her to actually have this sort of 689 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 17: record when it comes to the stock market picks, because 690 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 17: she has inside information. And when you're making lessan two 691 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 17: hundred thousand dollars and you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars, 692 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 17: it doesn't add up. So I would like it if 693 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 17: we made laws that were more strict when it comes 694 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 17: to politicians and stock trading, because that's the problem is 695 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 17: they get into power and the power. They go in 696 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 17: there with the best intentions, but as soon as they 697 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 17: get power, they get corrupted and they look at every 698 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 17: avenue like stock trading or you know, selling out their 699 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 17: constitution to the military industrial complex. 700 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 13: It doesn't matter. 701 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 17: All these politicians get in with the best intentions and 702 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 17: the power corrupts them all. 703 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're spot on, And I feel like she just 704 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: made it completely worse by trying to deflect, by trying 705 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: to dock and wave. If you really would not guilty, 706 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: why couldn't you just make a comment when asked about 707 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 3: it and just be up front. But she made herself 708 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: look even more ridiculous, So the joke is really on 709 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: her now. US Vice President jd Vance wants Elon Musk 710 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: to return to the White House, suggesting it was a 711 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: mistake for Musk to distance himself from the US President 712 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: in the first place. 713 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: This is a bit of what he said. 714 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 26: My argument to Elon is like, you're not going to 715 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 26: be on the left right even if you wanted to be, 716 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 26: and he doesn't, they're not going to have you back 717 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 26: that she was sealed, and so I really think it's 718 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 26: a mistake for him to try to break from the president. 719 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 8: So my hope is that by the. 720 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 13: Time of the midterms he's kind of come. 721 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 8: Back in the fall. 722 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 26: But yeah, I don't know that he would take my 723 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 26: call right now about. 724 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 3: Any So, Alex Elon Musk isn't taking jd Vance's calls, 725 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: But do you think that he should indeed return to 726 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: the White House. I don't know about you, but I 727 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: thought the bromance was cute while it lasted. 728 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 13: I mean, I agree one hundred percent. I love seeing Elon. 729 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 17: Wearing the Maga hat in the White House with his son, 730 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 17: and you know, going back, it almost feels like nostalgia. 731 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 13: It makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. 732 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 17: But what it spiraled into is Epstein allegations and pure 733 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 17: hatred from two billionaires. 734 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 13: So unless they can check their egos, which I. 735 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 17: Think Donald Trump probably could and I think Elon Musk 736 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 17: probably could, so I hope jd Vance can actually potentially minifences. 737 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 13: But in reality, I think these midterms are going to 738 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 13: be very bad. 739 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 17: We're not going to like the outcome, especially after you know, 740 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 17: Donald Trump has done a lot of great things, you know, 741 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 17: during his presidency, but this Epstein has this Epstein stuff 742 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 17: has been an absolute fiasco, and I think it really 743 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 17: could negatively hurt the Conservatives and Republicans in the upcoming midterm. 744 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 17: So jd Vance saying that it's kind of like he's 745 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 17: waving the white flag in a good way. 746 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 13: It's like, listen, he doesn't want to fight with Elon Musk. 747 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 17: You need to team up with Elon Musk because the 748 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 17: left doesn't care about Elon Musk, and at least the right. 749 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 17: You know, he might not align with it one hundred percent, 750 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 17: but ideologically he aligns with the right a lot more 751 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 17: than the alignes to the left. So Elon, you know, 752 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 17: come on back, and Donald Trump will have no hard 753 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 17: feelings and let's try to make America great again. 754 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 13: As they say, yeah, I agree. 755 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: I thought it was great when Elon Musk was out 756 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 3: there with his quirky behavior. 757 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 4: I liked when they were all together. 758 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, get the band back together, say I agree. 759 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 13: Now. 760 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 8: Look. 761 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: Comedian Bill Maher claims left wing censorship died after the 762 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 3: Democrats loss in twenty twenty four, saying he defeated the 763 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: saying the defeat rather created. 764 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 4: A vibe change. 765 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: Here he was on Drew Barrymore's podcast, have a look 766 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: at this. 767 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 27: It's slightly less dangerous than it was two years ago 768 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 27: because we did have a vibe change and because the 769 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 27: Democrats lost so badly in twenty twenty four, the blushes 770 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 27: off the rose on left wing censorship and oh my god, 771 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 27: you can't say that. Stop telling me what I can do. 772 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 4: Well, Alex sobad. 773 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: Firstly, Drew Barrymore, she sits so close to everyone does, 774 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: and space inviting is frightening. But what do you make 775 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 3: of Bill Maher's comments there. 776 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 13: Well, I think he is accurate. There was a vibe 777 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 13: shift two years ago. But just the the audacity. 778 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 17: Of Drew Barrymore to try to act like she is 779 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 17: getting censored by the Trump administration when it was always 780 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 17: the left that constantly canceled people, canceled athletes on Draft 781 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 17: night for tweeting a bad word when they're fifteen years old, 782 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 17: canceled people, got people. 783 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 13: Fired from their jobs for you know, having an emotional outburst. 784 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 17: It was the left that constantly canceled people for speech, 785 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 17: when her whole job is to talk, and under any 786 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 17: administration she will be able to speak freely, more unor 787 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 17: Donald Trump than any previous administration. So it just shows 788 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 17: you that once again, she's another rich, multi millionaire, great actress. 789 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 13: I'll give her that. 790 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 17: Drew Barrymore's a classically you know, well known, famous A 791 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 17: list actress, But she has no idea about politics, and 792 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 17: she has no idea what the everyday average American struggles with. 793 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 17: So you know, that just shows you she's worried about 794 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 17: the vibe shift. Now, well, this is the only time 795 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 17: in my lifetime where I've been able to speak freely 796 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 17: and not worried about constantly getting canceled. 797 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, a good point before we let you go. 798 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 3: I mean, what do you make if you've got Bill 799 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 3: Maher coming out saying this? Yesterday, Jimmy Kimmels was critical 800 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: of the Democrats. We're talking lefties, Democrat voters who were 801 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 3: so hateful and spiteful towards Donald Trump now suddenly having 802 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: some sort of come to Jesus moment. 803 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 8: What do you reckon? 804 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 13: Well, you know it is that come to Jesus moment. 805 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 17: I like that description because they're realizing that most people 806 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 17: aren't on the far right, most people aren't on the 807 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 17: far left. Most people are somewhere in the middle. And 808 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 17: we want to be able to speak freely and we 809 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 17: don't want to cancel people. And I think you know, 810 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 17: South Park right now has been going after Trump, but 811 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 17: they're getting great ratings, and the right we don't care 812 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 17: when they make fun of Donald Trump. You know, we're 813 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 17: not as sensitive as a left. And I think comedians 814 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 17: like Colbert and Jimmy kimmeler are seeing that, Hey, you know, 815 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 17: they actually have a sense of humor on the rate. 816 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 17: Maybe we should actually change our content to appeal to 817 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 17: all Americans and not just half of the country. And 818 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 17: that's why Stephen Colbert's show is gone, That's why Howard 819 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 17: Sterns show is going to be gone. It's because they 820 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 17: only appeal to half of the American population instead of 821 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 17: trying to appeal to everyone. So I think this is 822 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 17: a big wake up call and the vibe is shifting 823 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 17: and people are allowed to speak more freely and unapologetically 824 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 17: in America and twenty twenty five. 825 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 3: Well, it is about time. Seriously, Alex Side, great to 826 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: catch up with you. Thanks so much for joining me 827 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 3: on the show. 828 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 13: It's always a pleasure. Thank you guys for having me. 829 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 4: Still to come. 830 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 3: Donald Trump extends China's tariff deadline hours before a truce trade. 831 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 4: Between Washington and Beijing was due to expire. Kosher Gata 832 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 4: or join me next, welcome back. 833 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 3: Well, Donald Trump has decided to extend China's tariff deadline 834 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 3: for another ninety days. 835 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: Hours before a trade truce. 836 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 3: Between Washington and Beijing was due to expire. Joining me 837 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: now for more on This is Guy and US contributor 838 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: Koshagada kosher. It's lovely to see you again. Thank you 839 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: for joining me. Look, the US and China, they've gone 840 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 3: tip for tat on tariffs before. 841 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 4: How do you see this playing out? 842 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: And is it gearing up to the anticipation that there 843 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: might be a meeting soon between the two leaders. 844 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 25: All indications seem to be suggesting that. I think the 845 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 25: extension is interesting because it does show that while President 846 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 25: Trump is not afraid to wield the political mate of 847 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 25: the US economy, he does want to deal. He understands 848 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 25: that there are negative consequences to having this war with 849 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 25: China keep escalating. So I think that's interesting, and I'm 850 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 25: sure the other side, President She feels the same. So 851 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 25: hopefully we're getting there. I think the bottom line is, though, 852 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 25: the fundamentals are going to change a little bit from 853 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 25: what it's been for the last forty fifty years, so 854 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 25: it's certainly not going to be a returned to the past. 855 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 25: There is going to be more pressure and more of 856 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 25: this reciprocity concept on China, but hopefully we're getting close 857 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 25: to some kind of deal that the world can get 858 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 25: its heat around. 859 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 8: Well. 860 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: Look, fingers crossed, because they're two big trading nations, for 861 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 3: the world. 862 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 4: So let's see what happens. 863 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 3: Let's move on European leaders demanding Donald Trump tell Vladimir 864 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: Putin that Ukraine's interests must be defended and Europe's security 865 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: mustn't be compromised. When the pair meet later this week 866 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: for that very important, highly anticipated peace summit at Kosher, 867 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 3: how much is the EU blocks cooperation as well as 868 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: the UK is actually crucial to safeguarding American interests in Ukraine? 869 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,479 Speaker 4: Does there need to be a level of given take 870 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 4: somewhere here? 871 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 25: This one is interesting because there is the Russia Ukraine Agreement, 872 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 25: and that's kind of the core of this meeting, but 873 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 25: there is so much more to it as well, the 874 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 25: fact that it's happening in Alaska, which has historical significance 875 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 25: both for Russia and the US. They might be discussing shipping, 876 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 25: leans and energy and an off ramp for Russia away 877 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 25: from this escalatory situation. So there's a lot that I 878 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 25: think Trump and the Trump administration is working on that 879 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 25: includes but extends beyond the Ukraine conflict. So when you 880 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 25: look at it through that context, the Europeans kind of 881 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 25: get boxed out a little bit. I think there are 882 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 25: I'm sure a call is taking place behind the scenes. 883 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 25: Present trumpunders stands what they want, what their position is. 884 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 25: But he is America first, and insofar as Europe's interests 885 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 25: fit in his America First framework, greet, when they're diverged, 886 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 25: he will be America first. And if that means Europe 887 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,240 Speaker 25: having to swallow some medicine that maybe they weren't expecting 888 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 25: or won't like to swallow, They're probably going't have to. 889 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: They're probably going to have to. Well, yeah, look, I 890 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 3: think all eyes will be on that meeting. It's D Day. 891 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 3: It's D Day for both Russia and Ukraine. So let's 892 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: see what happens. I want to move on to Palestine now. 893 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: My colleague James Morrow has pointed out in the Daily 894 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 3: Telegraph today that Anthony Albernesi's decision to recognize a Palestinian 895 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 3: state is more evidence that Labor is tilting Australia's foreign 896 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 3: policy towards the EU and away from the US, even 897 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: as our need for a strong American alliance is greatest. 898 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 4: Koha, do you think this is the case. 899 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: I mean, Albot can't even get a meeting with Donald 900 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 3: Trump at the moment, but do you think that This 901 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 3: is indeed part of a bigger policy shift. 902 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 25: It seems like it. It's inn one hundred and forty 903 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 25: countries or so that have either signed on to this 904 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 25: two state solution or indicating that there will more and 905 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 25: more out there, kind of on a limb by themselves, 906 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 25: obviously the strongest ally over here, where the current administration 907 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 25: does not support that. They kind of dismiss this thing 908 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 25: is highly symbolic in nature, which is true. It's more 909 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 25: just a statement, but symbolism does have value. Things can 910 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 25: be undone with future administrations. The US has evolved its 911 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 25: position on this under the Clinton Bush Here's Obama Biden. 912 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 25: They were more favorable to the two state solutions. So 913 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 25: this is really the Trump administration has veered away from 914 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 25: that and thinks it's prohibitive to getting some kind of 915 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 25: peace given the current context over there. 916 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 4: But it is interesting. 917 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 8: I think the big. 918 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 25: Picture is showing that the mood of the world and 919 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 25: many countries is shifting more into that realm. Whether we 920 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 25: like it or not, that is happening, and so Primate 921 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 25: Astablan easy is taking stock of that whole dynamic doing 922 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 25: what he thinks he's going to do. There might be 923 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 25: consequences to it, because he is breaking from the US 924 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 25: strongest ally, and we shall see where the story ends. 925 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 3: I mean, this is all happening at the UN General 926 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: Assembly next month, but doesn't the America have the right 927 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: to veto have veto power, So realistically it's probably gonna 928 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 3: veto it anyway. 929 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 25: Right, So this is all Hans his secretary Rubia's point 930 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 25: that this is all symbolic and you can sort of, 931 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 25: I think you're called it a publicity stunt that you 932 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 25: can put statements out there, but it doesn't really mean 933 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 25: anything other than people signaling that the mood of the 934 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 25: electorates and these countries probably are pushing them towards something 935 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 25: that was not the policy historically and that we have 936 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 25: to take that for what it is. 937 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a symbolic gesture, but it means so 938 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: much more deep down, and you know, it's not great 939 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: for the Jewish community here either. 940 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: Look, let's move on. 941 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 3: A pro Palestinian group has vowed to take its fight 942 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 3: to shut down Brisbane story Bridge for a mass protest 943 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 3: to court if needed after police flag security and safety concerns. 944 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 3: Justice for Palestine has also begun preparations for the major 945 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: rally despite not yet getting the green light. 946 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 8: Koscha. 947 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 3: We saw this weeks ago here in Sydney. The protesters 948 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: didn't get the green light. 949 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 4: They took it to court. 950 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 3: They won at the eleventh hour, hijacked the Harbor Bridge. 951 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 3: You know, the terror flags were being waved. It was 952 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: an embarrassed The pictures went worldwide. Now these protest is 953 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 3: now more and more emboldened because we saw the steps 954 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 3: of the Cydney Opera House, the Harbor Bridge, now the 955 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 3: story Bridge in Brisbane. 956 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 4: It's a weakly thing now. 957 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 25: They are I think the precedent of Sydney and with 958 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 25: a High Court there did is obviously something that they 959 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 25: are looking at and they're I'm sure we're going to 960 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 25: do the same thing in Queensland and will see each 961 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 25: court is different. But it's striking to the heart of 962 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 25: taking advantage of the laws in free countries like Australia 963 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 25: that do protect the right to peaceful assembly, but they're 964 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 25: using it for a cause that not everybody's sympathetic to. 965 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 25: There are people who are sympathetic to it, but when 966 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 25: you block traffic and take over iconic landmarks for something, 967 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 25: they're not exactly the most sympathetic figures even if people 968 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 25: have sympathy for the humanitarian crisis and things like that 969 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 25: over there. So it is interesting. I think it's an 970 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 25: example of multiculturalism. You import a lot of people with 971 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 25: different allegiances and values into the country and then you've 972 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 25: got sort of these laws that protect protests, peaceful protests 973 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 25: as they should. 974 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 4: Those are good laws to have. 975 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 25: You are going to see them use to their advantage. 976 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 25: And the Sydney President I think just is a blueprint. 977 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 25: So I do think we're going to see it more 978 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 25: and more everywhere. 979 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is a shame. 980 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: And again just it's a terrible precedent. And just the 981 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 3: Australian Jewish community right now and just tearing their hair out. 982 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 13: Now. 983 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 4: Look, this is interesting seeing and. 984 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 3: Is reporting that Google searches for Epstein are down eighty 985 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 3: nine percent from just three weeks ago. 986 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 4: Have a look at this. 987 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 7: I would say that this is from at least a 988 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 7: political point of view, quickly turning into a dud of 989 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 7: a story. 990 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: What am I talking about? 991 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 4: Which is wild? 992 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 2: Which is wild? 993 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 4: Which is this has been for three weeks exactly? 994 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: Take a look here. 995 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 20: Google searches for Epstein down eighty nine percent versus just 996 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 20: three weeks ago, falling through the floor, a dout of a. 997 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: Story now kosher, they say, see it in a shock 998 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 3: that they can barely contain their shock right now. 999 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 4: But what do you put it down to? 1000 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 25: They say, a week is a lifetime in politics, and 1001 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 25: maybe we're seeing that. There's so much coming out of 1002 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 25: this administration. They call it the flood, the Zone strategy, 1003 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 25: just news and every we just talked about right now 1004 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 25: in this segment, and then one hundred things on top 1005 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 25: of that. So there's just so much going on that 1006 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 25: when you're trying to save the world and the world 1007 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 25: is on fire, so to speak, a story does eventually diminish. 1008 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 25: It is interesting, though, because the Epstein story is about 1009 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 25: so much more than just Epstein, the character. It really 1010 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 25: goes down to transparency and the government, the perception that 1011 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 25: the government covers things up or protects powerful people, and 1012 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 25: all of that that I think remains a very potent 1013 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 25: strain in the electorate. A lot of people are very 1014 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 25: angry about that in all sorts of contexts, from the 1015 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 25: way COVID was handled to all sorts of other things, 1016 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 25: and this kind of symbolizes that. 1017 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 4: But I think the. 1018 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 25: Story itself, we have bigger fish to fry is what 1019 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 25: this pole is saying. And it is interesting that the 1020 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 25: Google search results are down. 1021 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 4: That surprised me. It's incredible. 1022 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 3: Well you know what it comes and swings and roundabouts 1023 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 3: that us so we'll say. I'm sure at some point 1024 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 3: it'll emerge that news cycle. Kochhagarta, lovely to say you 1025 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: thanks so much for Johnny va as a show this evening. 1026 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 4: Really appreciate it. Well that is from me. Up next 1027 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 4: is news not it's good nights