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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and whipp A podcast. Here's

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Speaker 1: a question, why is everybody so obsessed with crime shows?

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Speaker 1: Been a podcast? I mean the Teacher's Pet was massive

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Speaker 1: Headly Thomas. But you know what, this has been on

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Speaker 1: for a long time. My mum's been obsessed with crime

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Speaker 1: shows and the old who done it? I think she

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Speaker 1: gets a reward out of thinking she's seen so many

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Speaker 1: of them that she can pick who's done it, and

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Speaker 1: then when she knows what's about to happen, she'll go, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you watch enough of them and you

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Speaker 1: start to learn to know what's about to happen. But

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Speaker 1: I think there's there's an obsessive side to a crime

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Speaker 1: show where you almost feel like, I'm glad that's happening

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Speaker 1: over there and I'm comfortable here. You know, I love

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Speaker 1: to watch crime from afar. I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: involved in it.

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Speaker 2: I'm so the behavior of a serial killer. I think

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Speaker 2: people are obsessed with that. There's a great show David Fincher.

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Speaker 2: It's up on Netflix, is called mind Hunter. There's only

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Speaker 2: two series you have seen that Finch has stopped doing it,

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Speaker 2: but it actually is. It was two guy they were

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Speaker 2: the first two guys who thought to themselves, why don't

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Speaker 2: we going to the jails and we interview the behaviors

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Speaker 2: of all the most notorious serial killers we've ever had.

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Speaker 2: And they studied these guys and worked out, you know

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Speaker 2: what's going through these and it actually helped with future

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Speaker 2: serial killers actually catching these times and their behavior.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's because you watch it and you think,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, I'll just keep an eye out for

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Speaker 1: that personality time. So you think, oh, I've met Tom,

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Speaker 1: he has similar traits to what I've seen on TV.

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Speaker 1: He could be a serial Well do you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Do you feel like you're arming yourself with

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Speaker 1: a bit more knowledge when you watch these crime shows

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Speaker 1: to be able to, hey, I think I can spot

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Speaker 1: a serial killer right now. And they go on to

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Speaker 1: say the doctor who studied this and the psychopaths that

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Speaker 1: people are obsessed with, he said, it's because we like

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Speaker 1: to have the information about people that are potentially dangerous. Right,

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Speaker 1: So there's that learning aspect, they said. True crimes have

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Speaker 1: a learning component. You can perceive it as learning where

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're now more prepared for situations that

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Speaker 1: might occur in real life.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: So you think you're actually getting something from this, because

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Speaker 1: if you have a moment of danger on the street,

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to reflect on some crime show you

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Speaker 1: watched episode three where the same thing happened, and you'll

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Speaker 1: know what to do in that moment.

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Speaker 2: I'm confident with having my wife around, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: She have been for it, is she?

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Speaker 2: Well, mate, she watches all the crime Network is on

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Speaker 2: in our house all the time.

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Speaker 1: And I reckon people that watch it, like BJ are

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Speaker 1: almost hoping they get a knock at the door from

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Speaker 1: a policeman saying there was a crime two doors down.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you can help? Well, I've seen enough shows.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the guy with the bandanna and

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Speaker 1: the knife.

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Speaker 2: On his head. Well, there has been a couple of

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Speaker 2: moments two am in the middle of the night where

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Speaker 2: I've looked over my wife's looking at me, thinking what

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Speaker 2: she could do to crime already, what she could do

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Speaker 2: to me really quickly. I think she could kill me

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Speaker 2: within three seconds.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to believe it. We've got a phone

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Speaker 1: call from a BJ in Balmain. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, this is my favorite topic. Crime made for your

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Speaker 2: husband In three days three seconds, three seconds. So, well,

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Speaker 2: what is your favorite show on Crime Network? Honey? What

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Speaker 2: are you into?

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Speaker 3: I like the.

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Speaker 2: True crime confessions. I like and when they're in that

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Speaker 2: little police room and confessing what they did, the true

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Speaker 2: stuff for a woman who's just you know, and you

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Speaker 2: know what, like I said before, if there's a spider

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Speaker 2: in the house or even a cockrate, we're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to kill a cockroach in the house. You know, with

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Speaker 2: someone who looks after animals so much, why are you

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Speaker 2: so addicted to seeing other people slash other people? It's

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Speaker 2: even like, you know shows that have got animals in

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Speaker 2: there that I can't watch. That can't watch.

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Speaker 1: That as a human getting children?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all that true crime I don't know this

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Speaker 2: week BJ.

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Speaker 1: This article goes on to say that you then find

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Speaker 1: people that love crime see the rest of the public

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Speaker 1: and the people they meet. They're less trustworthy of others

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Speaker 1: because they know there's so much true crime out there,

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Speaker 1: or they think there is because you've seen it.

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Speaker 2: That's probably that's probably a true sake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you'd be walking around the street kind of

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Speaker 1: eyeing everybody off, going is that them? Is that them?

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Speaker 1: Where they do that?

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Speaker 2: Now? Can I give you interesting. So when we when

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Speaker 2: we go up to the Barossa Valley to try some

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Speaker 2: nice wine or something. On the way, every time we

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Speaker 2: have to stop in at Snowtown to see where the

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Speaker 2: bank roll was where they kept the bodies. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it's honey, it's not even there anymore. She goes, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, but it was once. Imagine if we were

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Speaker 2: here the day that they brought the bodies back. I said,

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Speaker 2: what what what I would have to obviously save them?

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Speaker 2: What if I do? You know what your shield?

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Speaker 1: It's not funny because I do the same thing. And

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Speaker 1: there was a crime in Sydney, and I went on

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Speaker 1: the ghost Tour of Sydney a while ago, and you

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Speaker 1: into these moments where they take you into a house

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Speaker 1: and they explain the crime that took place in this room.

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Speaker 1: And then you think to yourself, oh my god, what

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Speaker 1: these walls would have seen. Walls can't see. No, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen anything like you have to take them oment

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Speaker 1: to step back and go. They haven't seen, witnessed or anything.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing here to represent that moment that happened back there.

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Speaker 2: There's also another place called Truro right, and then Truro

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Speaker 2: a serial. What happened he buried seven nurses an old

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Speaker 2: story to my mother. I'm disgusted by it, but my

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Speaker 2: mother makes a joke every time we drive past it

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Speaker 2: because the Trueau Bakery is so nice. Mum always says,

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Speaker 2: Trudeau Bakery the finger buns the only place in the

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Speaker 2: world that has real fingers in them.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my gosh, Mum, but there was

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Speaker 3: we BJ watched the documentary on this and there is

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Speaker 3: off the main road, there's the path where the guy

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Speaker 3: used to go.

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Speaker 2: And drive one day. You can't it's private property. But

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Speaker 2: she was trying to make me drive down this road

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Speaker 2: so we could go see where they were buried with

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Speaker 2: the crime was. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Hey, BJ, tell me if you do this, because I've

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Speaker 1: always wanted to be involved in a crime, in solving

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Speaker 1: a crime, sorry I should say, but you know, if

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Speaker 1: there's a car that's been parked out the front for

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Speaker 1: too long, or I think there's a car that might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit sus I'll write the number plate

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Speaker 1: down just in case the police knock on the door

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Speaker 1: and say have you seen anything, sus weeper and I go,

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Speaker 1: your job's done. I'll take the bounties. Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: I must admit she's but you're pretty clue with stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. She's a private and that's why I've stopped cheating.

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Speaker 2: She movies together and try and guess it, you know,

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Speaker 2: just want to guess who's done it.

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Speaker 1: But Bj, you've helped with a couple of crimes too,

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Speaker 1: in the local area. See I think you know.

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Speaker 2: Around the community. You know, Oh my god, Jason born

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Speaker 2: over here.

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Speaker 1: BJ Boorn just awesome solving all the crimes.

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Speaker 2: You go into the running the.

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Speaker 3: Crime with these three boys.

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Speaker 1: Good luck. You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast